Another note - Basil Rathbone said the most talented Swordsman he ever met was Danny Kaye, Rathbone was astonished at the speed at which he learned fencing.
@HunterstonB Says a lot about Rathbone's skill that he could avoid getting skewered when Danny Kaye was flailing about lol. Pretty cool to see him up against the legend of Rathbone though, that was an awesome scene :)
Basil Rathbone was an international level competion fencer. Tyrone Powers mother was a fencing coach. He was good, but not in the same class as Rathbone. A stunt double, who was an Olympic competitor was used to replace Tyrone Powers for the scene's when Powers has his back to the camera. Notice the change in speed from when Powers has his back to the camera and is facing it.
During the coach screen where Power takes the money and jewels. Power cuts the "Z" in the coach seat back. During ONE film take , he cuts the "Z" and J.Edward Bloomberg, Don Luis Quintero , says instead of" Zorro", the says "Zanuck" for the "Z", knowing Power was pissed off, ruining the shot.
because the day before Zanuck lowered the temp on Power's personal swimming pool.
to which Powers said" let that be a lesson to him, dammit", saying to Zanuck, don't fuck with my pool!
@missprincessiris It's the fact that they RELY on it SO much when it really doesn't need it. It's a laziness and lack of vision of the director. Just like overuse of CGI and super quick cuts over and over. Storytelling on film is a dying art and the film industry is in the hands of lots of hacks.
An action scene today is edited to death. You have no idea of what's going on. In order to enjoy the skill of the performers and the choreography you have to look at the DVD extras, if something's been caught by the documentary camera.
If I were a stunt coordinator or a fight choreographer today I would be embarrassed with the stuff that's out today. They should all watch this sequence as a requirement before getting a gig on a movie.
@kytodd I choreograph as a hobby, and I agree with what you said. I dunno why movies these days ignore what made fight scenes so great as long ago as 1940!
@Shindai Thanks. I think the thing that frustrates me the most is when there's a talented cast, and a talented choreographer, the camera moves so much and there's so many cuts that it's hard to enjoy the scene anyway.
I Believe Basil Rathbone was a European fencing champion in his youth. The only reason he looses in all his movies is because he almost always played the bad guy (Sherlock Holmes the exception) and the bad evil men are always suppose to loose right? Hear that U.S. Congress & Senate please all drop dead your evil Lol.
Basil was a highly skilled swordman who saw action in WW1 and was awarded the Military Cross. But he only ever won a swordfight on screen once - in Romeo and Juliet (1936) - before he was typecast as a villian. In his later years in his one-man-show he would quip 'Of course, I could have killed Errol Flynn any time I lked ...'
It's a fascinating video. Tyrone Power was a competent fencer, Basil Rathbone the British Army champion.
Although Power could fence (his mother was a fencing coach) - he was not an expert, Rathbone was.
Notice the difference in speed between when Power is facing the camera and when he has his back to it. A top level competion swordsman did the stunt doubling for the fast stuff.
@HunterstonB You're right - Powers was doubled by Albert Cavens, son of Fred Cavens, the fencing master who choreographed this duel and many, many more.
Basil: one of the greatest fencers in hollywood in the most INTENSE swordfight ever!!! How am I supposed to root for Tyrone when Basil rules so hard?!?!
How delightful to know my favourite Sherlock Holmes was also such an accomplished swordsman. This was really a lightning quick fight, and doesn't look speeded up. You'd think things would have advanced nowand yet few fight scenes today can compare.
@Shindai The guards that come in have guns, so they were available. But that's beside the point, because fighting over a matter of honor isn't something where you just murder the other person.
@IainMcfly If I find one I'll be sure to upload it, I've been looking for one as well lol. Hell even Danny Kaye put him down. There must be SOME movie where he kicks bum
@Shindai there's Romeo & Juliet (1936), he played Tybalt and was nominated for best supporting actor in that film. He was also one of the first actors to play Sherlock Holmes.
@IainMcfly Rathbone won his first screen duel in the 1935 Norma Shearer version of Romeo & Juliet, for which he was also Oscar Nominated as Best Supporting Actor. There are a couple of very brief clips from this in the YouTube video 'The Golden Age of Swashbuckling'.
@IainMcfly I love rathbone, the weird thing is that he was actually always a better swordsman than Flynn, who only acted the part, and never officially studied fencing. read Richard Cohen's By The Sword. Its really intresting.
Rathbone always insisted that Power was the best screen swordsman with whom he ever worked, which has never been in dispute. This is certainly the best swordfighting sequence of the sound era.
This movie goes without saying that they just don't make movies like they used to. Mark Of Zorro has been a favorite of mine for over 5o years! It is definitley one of my all time favorite movies of early screen.
Talk about coincidence. Just after you stab the villain, a picture falls down in the very same spot, revealing the hero's trademark. Just think about the advertising possibilities...
Of course they have sped up the film in some of the wider shots but that in no way detracts from these guys' skills as swordsmen. I think it's Basil's best sword scene ever - thanks for posting!
First saw it when I was 13 years old and in hospital.
Was very happy when Martin Campbell made Mask of Zorro pretty much a sequel to this (ignoring, of course, the unmasking at the end) with duels basically to match.
This is still the best classic duel put on film by Hollywood.
Legendary Duel!!! One of the best swashbuckler's Movie ... It was colorized in this version ... In the final duel sequence there is another version with musical accompaniment ... the original Alfred Newman's soundtrack. The name of the Captain is Pasquale Esteban, but I don't if this one has changed in other international version that was doubled ...
@haveajerk Tis the downside of movie fighting, in the interests of safety, especially I find with fencing movies (The Princess Bride is guilty of it as well sadly), the fighters are actually well out of range of each other's swords, so it's all about the aesthetic. Which is beautiful but does spoil it sometimes. Tis why books are better :p
@Shindai Not at all. Duellists always stay out of the range of each other's swords when there are sharp points, rather than the buttons of modern swords. They stay at "fencing distance" - the absolute distance it takes each of them to lunge and hit the other. Then, they do all the sword clashing etc,, like chess, to get the other fellow out of position, giving them time to try a lunge for a hit.
@CDeanWatcher Well I's learned something :) I've watched choreography tutorial vids and such that say you always stay just out of range for safety. Thanks for the correction.
@haveajerk A bit of both. Fencing has a lot of fake outs in it since you are both moving so fast. They are taught to think 5 moves in advance so you continue to keep yourself safe until the opponent makes a mistake that you can take advantage of.
@haveajerk Movie fights are super-exaggerated an choreographed. You would never find two people so evenly matched as to be able to deflect so many blows. A normal fight would be over much faster. 'course it's no fun to just have someone die so quickly with so little action. The purpose of movies is to display impossible fantasies, and this sword fight is an amazing example.
@Ninjujitsu Yes, it is true; but there is a degree of realism that must be fulfilled, I think so. One can review many sword fights in movies and find that there are very well coreographed duels and sword-clashing-scenes like this one, except around at 2:07 :)
@Womper55 Too many rules :p The olympics should really have historical fencing instead of sports fencing, it's much more entertaining and the weapons are much more fun
@Scruffy193 Where the hell did I get Mondego from? :| I must have been watching the Count of Monte Cristo or something while I uploaded this lol I can't believe I've had that wrong all this time :$
I always hated seeing Rathbone losing duels because he's so damn good! I wish there was one really good duel that he wins. Romeo & Juliet doesn't count. I would love to see the slo-mo version. Thanks for posting.
Hehe I absolutely agree, I've only seen him in this film and The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938 I think it was), and I've seen the last fight of The Court Jester, the man's a legend, would love to have seen him play a hero like Zorro or Robin Hood himself just once. I'll try to remember to upload the slow motion one for you :) If it ain't up in two days email me to get me off my arse lol
Usually I'd insist people don't state their opinions as fact but "swordfights are cooler than gunfights" is just undeniable :p Few gunfights I've ever seen come close to the coolness of a good duel (Face/Off, for example)
Sorry, wasn't suggesting what you said bugged me, I mean what you said is so true it bypasses mere opinion and becomes undisputed fact :) I fail at eloquence :$
@Nergaladdictchic And always condemned to play the bad guy because he was British. Had to lose to Tyrone Power and Errol Flynn (who couldn't hold a candle to him), but apparrently thought that Danny Kaye would have been an excellent fencer if he'd taken it up as a sport.
@atrainhxdotcom You and jimb0jet are right, now it's been pointed out I can see it. funny, I saw this scene so many times before now but never noticed that.
I thought I heard somewhere, during the filming of The Adventures of Robin Hood, Rathbone got so fed up with Flynn fooling around during the fencing scenes he almost legitimately went after him. Don't know the truth behind this story, though.
all too true. I heard that story as well. I even tried out fencing for myself having first thought of it as a bit of a joke. got my ass kicked. it is a true sport that takes an hour to learn and a lifetime to master.
@Stormstallion LOL, I could see that. Rathbone said in an interview that he used to tell Flynn, "You may be the one who gets the girl, but I can still kill you any time I want to." And I'm pretty sure he was only half-kidding. :P
Does anyone else think this is better without music? I'm sure the right kind of music could make it awesomer, but it would be so easy to completely ruin it, don't you agree?
Despite the choreography? I don't mean to sound confrontational, but what's wrong with it? I don't know much about fencing beyond the footwork and stances, would you mind explaining?
imagine if competitive sabre looked like this while on a piste (which it doesnt look like this). I would love sabre 10 times more than I already do. Thats what I meant, because of the choreography, the blade work is more precise and flowing for the both of the fighters, which would never happen in competitive sabre. Competitive sabre is much more abrupt and fast (it would be more interesting though if to get a point in sabre it took two miniutes).
Ah, I understand better. I've never seen saber, only foil (and to be honest found it very dull to watch) though I've fought with saber and found it more interesting. Thank you for taking the time to explain what you meant :)
@Tehosennake That's why I could never get into competitive saber when I was taking fencing, I found it too abrupt and fast to really enjoy. I loved doing more casual practice duels with sabre though.
Heh....well, I DO happen to be a fencer (primarily sabre, although I do far more teaching than competing these days)...and I work at SwordPlay in Burbank, CA, which includes a fine stage combat team....so I've seen some good stage work before!
Very nice :) I've done some historical fencing in my time, don't really know a great deal about fencing, didn't stay long coz it was hard to get too, but I've always loved to watch fencing in movies like this :) This scene is truly one of the best I've seen, certainly one of my favourites.
Check out SCARAMOUCHE.
1962HILTON 1 day ago
The motion has been acelerated in some parts, but is still a great scene played for two great actors AND athletes.
1962HILTON 1 day ago
Damn they're fast.
ancalites 5 days ago
hard core.
Ratama 1 week ago
First time I ever saw this - that was pretty fucking sweet indeed!
kaih8941 1 week ago
next to errol flynn ,ty power was the most dashing actor of his day
elchoya100 1 week ago
For some reason I always forget just how intense this fight is. It's pretty freaking sweet.
FieryArtemis 1 week ago
I never fail to enjoy this clip. Always a joy to watch a superb display of fencing movie genious!
zedman321 3 weeks ago
Another note - Basil Rathbone said the most talented Swordsman he ever met was Danny Kaye, Rathbone was astonished at the speed at which he learned fencing.
HunterstonB 3 weeks ago
@HunterstonB Says a lot about Rathbone's skill that he could avoid getting skewered when Danny Kaye was flailing about lol. Pretty cool to see him up against the legend of Rathbone though, that was an awesome scene :)
Shindai 3 weeks ago
Basil Rathbone was an international level competion fencer. Tyrone Powers mother was a fencing coach. He was good, but not in the same class as Rathbone. A stunt double, who was an Olympic competitor was used to replace Tyrone Powers for the scene's when Powers has his back to the camera. Notice the change in speed from when Powers has his back to the camera and is facing it.
HunterstonB 3 weeks ago 2
Great movie, and great duel. I kinda wish we got to see Power do this as Zorro himself but all the same this is a great scene.
SLPIFan 1 month ago
During the coach screen where Power takes the money and jewels. Power cuts the "Z" in the coach seat back. During ONE film take , he cuts the "Z" and J.Edward Bloomberg, Don Luis Quintero , says instead of" Zorro", the says "Zanuck" for the "Z", knowing Power was pissed off, ruining the shot.
because the day before Zanuck lowered the temp on Power's personal swimming pool.
to which Powers said" let that be a lesson to him, dammit", saying to Zanuck, don't fuck with my pool!
Weaponsuser 2 months ago
@Weaponsuser lmao that's awesome! Where did you learn that?
Shindai 1 month ago
@Shindai its was from a show called thats hollywood made in the 70's.
where i heard the story.
Weaponsuser 1 month ago
I have never seen this in color before.
poolboyinla 2 months ago
Sword fights in movies today have no style. class or grace. Just a bunch of 3D effects and Asian stunt wire work.
the60sKid 2 months ago
@the60sKid
I am Asian, but I hate wire work, too.
missprincessiris 1 month ago
@missprincessiris It's the fact that they RELY on it SO much when it really doesn't need it. It's a laziness and lack of vision of the director. Just like overuse of CGI and super quick cuts over and over. Storytelling on film is a dying art and the film industry is in the hands of lots of hacks.
the60sKid 1 month ago 2
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the60sKid 2 months ago
I love how they actually know what they're doing. At least, they seem to be. :)
KunoichiBlackRose 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
This is an awesome sword battle. Timeless. I'm kind of into the dialogue also....its hilarious but still cool
ComptonII 3 months ago
This is one of the best swordfights in movie history. Plus this version of Diego was just hilarious.
kashiichan 3 months ago
This and the final duel from Rob Roy are unarguably two of the best in film history.
KorAnos1 3 months ago
An action scene today is edited to death. You have no idea of what's going on. In order to enjoy the skill of the performers and the choreography you have to look at the DVD extras, if something's been caught by the documentary camera.
bluworm 3 months ago
If I were a stunt coordinator or a fight choreographer today I would be embarrassed with the stuff that's out today. They should all watch this sequence as a requirement before getting a gig on a movie.
kytodd 4 months ago 10
@kytodd I choreograph as a hobby, and I agree with what you said. I dunno why movies these days ignore what made fight scenes so great as long ago as 1940!
Shindai 4 months ago
@Shindai Thanks. I think the thing that frustrates me the most is when there's a talented cast, and a talented choreographer, the camera moves so much and there's so many cuts that it's hard to enjoy the scene anyway.
kytodd 4 months ago
@kytodd
i agreed, this fight is so awesome!...
leopurpleman 3 months ago
2 people's blades are not so firm.
AnotherSchmoe 4 months ago 2
haha, they did the same candle thing in the Court Jester
Virini 5 months ago
Basil Rathbone may have been the best swordsman in Hollywood, but Tyrone Power was the quickest understudy.
errolfan 5 months ago
These guys were just brilliant.
joecoyote42 5 months ago
I Believe Basil Rathbone was a European fencing champion in his youth. The only reason he looses in all his movies is because he almost always played the bad guy (Sherlock Holmes the exception) and the bad evil men are always suppose to loose right? Hear that U.S. Congress & Senate please all drop dead your evil Lol.
gijoekfg1969 6 months ago
Basil was a highly skilled swordman who saw action in WW1 and was awarded the Military Cross. But he only ever won a swordfight on screen once - in Romeo and Juliet (1936) - before he was typecast as a villian. In his later years in his one-man-show he would quip 'Of course, I could have killed Errol Flynn any time I lked ...'
AikiJoKen 6 months ago 3
Old Bas' could hold his own considering Tyrone Power was half his age.
hemming57 7 months ago
Basil Rathbone is #1 in my book.
NicosPourpourakis 7 months ago
This sword fight is 70 years old.
It could be put in the Matrix, the Lord of the Rings or any current action movie and be just as awesome today as it was back then.
Directors take note... this is how you do a duel... no music, just two people throwing down for their lives.
cotillion 7 months ago
@cotillion I totally agree with your comment. This is a wonderful depiction of talent and skill.
NicosPourpourakis 7 months ago
Badass!!!!!
Rommel555 7 months ago
Tyrone Power is awsome Zorro. But I like Guy Williams best! :)
nanski33 7 months ago
I have this movie in my computer, Tyrone Power is the best zorro ever
Elchikodelgas 8 months ago
A friend of mine who was an expert fencer told me this was the best duel in any movie.
Axgoodofdunemaul 8 months ago
Basil Rathbone is a champion fencer, and he said that he hated playing the bad guy in movies, because that means he always loses the duel
flutinet 8 months ago
Basil Rathbone might always be on the losing end of fights, but he's still a total badass. One of the best villains ever.
melosebrainuhoh 9 months ago
I love this duel. The swordplay is fast-paced and the banter witty. A great scene to a wonderful movie.
RoronoaEmi 9 months ago
It's a fascinating video. Tyrone Power was a competent fencer, Basil Rathbone the British Army champion.
Although Power could fence (his mother was a fencing coach) - he was not an expert, Rathbone was.
Notice the difference in speed between when Power is facing the camera and when he has his back to it. A top level competion swordsman did the stunt doubling for the fast stuff.
HunterstonB 10 months ago
@HunterstonB You're right - Powers was doubled by Albert Cavens, son of Fred Cavens, the fencing master who choreographed this duel and many, many more.
mickfoil 9 months ago
Basil: one of the greatest fencers in hollywood in the most INTENSE swordfight ever!!! How am I supposed to root for Tyrone when Basil rules so hard?!?!
CaptEoNinja83 11 months ago
It's so refreshing to see actual fencing in a film fight, instead of all that twirling around.
DarthPraxus27 1 year ago
@3:24, El Capitan was thinking, " Sacre Bleu! That deadly poke of Zorro!"
Leftysfive93 1 year ago
The best swordfight i have ever seen in cinema! Amazing!
wilmotofrochester 1 year ago
Tyrone Power mother was a fencing champion so he could handled the blade as well as Basil!!!
toicannon 1 year ago
How delightful to know my favourite Sherlock Holmes was also such an accomplished swordsman. This was really a lightning quick fight, and doesn't look speeded up. You'd think things would have advanced nowand yet few fight scenes today can compare.
Bonecrusher27WTF 1 year ago
Compare this with the sword fight in Scaromouch.
Ear4Beauty 1 year ago
Perhaps the best Sabre lunge of all time: cinema or in real life.
edgardusXII 1 year ago
Amazing!
MissPouLou 1 year ago
"Ah, the Capt.'s blade is not so firm."
"Still firm enoug to- HEY!"
demboys18 1 year ago 9
were they out of bullets?
kranktank 1 year ago
@kranktank Does it look like there were guns to hand?
Shindai 1 year ago 4
@Shindai old joke from batman the animated series..."why don't you just shoot him?"
kranktank 1 year ago
@Shindai The guards that come in have guns, so they were available. But that's beside the point, because fighting over a matter of honor isn't something where you just murder the other person.
FleetAdmiralHog 4 months ago
was wondering if anyone has a link or know of a movie that Basil wins
~ he is so brilliant with a blade ~
but know I have seen him bettered by Errol twice and now tyrone would like to see him standing haha
IainMcfly 1 year ago
@IainMcfly If I find one I'll be sure to upload it, I've been looking for one as well lol. Hell even Danny Kaye put him down. There must be SOME movie where he kicks bum
Shindai 1 year ago
@Shindai there's Romeo & Juliet (1936), he played Tybalt and was nominated for best supporting actor in that film. He was also one of the first actors to play Sherlock Holmes.
dash562 1 year ago
@Shindai I think he's only won one duel, in Romeo and Juliet.
AngryDave113 10 months ago
@Shindai Ahh, Court Jester! Another classic. A wonderful time with wonderfully talented actors
kytodd 4 months ago
@IainMcfly Rathbone played Tybalt in the 1936 Romeo & Juliet. He beat Mercutio (John Barrymore) befoe being killed by Romeo (Leslie Howard)
JamesDAmadan 1 year ago
@IainMcfly Rathbone only won one on stage fight that I'm aware of....he played the bad guy frequently.
homfencing 1 year ago
@IainMcfly Basil Rathbone was European Fencing Champion for quite awhile.
CanadianKeiffer 1 year ago
@CanadianKeiffer So he was a bad ass Mo Fo in the most Civilized sense haha
IainMcfly 11 months ago
@IainMcfly Rathbone won his first screen duel in the 1935 Norma Shearer version of Romeo & Juliet, for which he was also Oscar Nominated as Best Supporting Actor. There are a couple of very brief clips from this in the YouTube video 'The Golden Age of Swashbuckling'.
DOMuricu 10 months ago
@IainMcfly I love rathbone, the weird thing is that he was actually always a better swordsman than Flynn, who only acted the part, and never officially studied fencing. read Richard Cohen's By The Sword. Its really intresting.
WestTexasViking 5 months ago
I'm amazed at Basil's physicality, he really looks like he know what the hell he's doing.
theScytheofGod 1 year ago
Who ever thought the man who played Sherlock Holmes in radio and in movies had skills like this.....
thedrknghtno1 1 year ago
Rathbone always insisted that Power was the best screen swordsman with whom he ever worked, which has never been in dispute. This is certainly the best swordfighting sequence of the sound era.
Impowers 1 year ago
@Impowers And possibly the best ever..
dangkoen 1 year ago
haha thats a good effort Capitan
my next will be better my fancy clown
haha classic movie lines you gotta love em!!!
mortalkombat32139 1 year ago
This movie goes without saying that they just don't make movies like they used to. Mark Of Zorro has been a favorite of mine for over 5o years! It is definitley one of my all time favorite movies of early screen.
jerrymosenson100 1 year ago
Remarkable, just remarkable!
nefersguy 1 year ago
Talk about coincidence. Just after you stab the villain, a picture falls down in the very same spot, revealing the hero's trademark. Just think about the advertising possibilities...
errolfan 1 year ago
Amazing to watch.
Of course they have sped up the film in some of the wider shots but that in no way detracts from these guys' skills as swordsmen. I think it's Basil's best sword scene ever - thanks for posting!
SecretFilms 1 year ago
@SecretFilms You're most welcome, greatness such as this ought be shared :) Thanks for the comment and the video response
Shindai 1 year ago
First saw it when I was 13 years old and in hospital.
Was very happy when Martin Campbell made Mask of Zorro pretty much a sequel to this (ignoring, of course, the unmasking at the end) with duels basically to match.
This is still the best classic duel put on film by Hollywood.
Prod1Kh 1 year ago
Legendary Duel!!! One of the best swashbuckler's Movie ... It was colorized in this version ... In the final duel sequence there is another version with musical accompaniment ... the original Alfred Newman's soundtrack. The name of the Captain is Pasquale Esteban, but I don't if this one has changed in other international version that was doubled ...
ShifferAdams 1 year ago
It is my impression or they are just clashing their swords instead of trying to stab each other, as the real deal should be?
haveajerk 1 year ago
@haveajerk Tis the downside of movie fighting, in the interests of safety, especially I find with fencing movies (The Princess Bride is guilty of it as well sadly), the fighters are actually well out of range of each other's swords, so it's all about the aesthetic. Which is beautiful but does spoil it sometimes. Tis why books are better :p
Shindai 1 year ago
@Shindai Not at all. Duellists always stay out of the range of each other's swords when there are sharp points, rather than the buttons of modern swords. They stay at "fencing distance" - the absolute distance it takes each of them to lunge and hit the other. Then, they do all the sword clashing etc,, like chess, to get the other fellow out of position, giving them time to try a lunge for a hit.
CDeanWatcher 1 year ago 2
@CDeanWatcher Well I's learned something :) I've watched choreography tutorial vids and such that say you always stay just out of range for safety. Thanks for the correction.
Shindai 1 year ago
@Shindai that's true but the fact that this duel was made with only 2 scratches on rathbone's forehead shows how skilled they both are.
hellzanetruesdale 1 year ago
@haveajerk A bit of both. Fencing has a lot of fake outs in it since you are both moving so fast. They are taught to think 5 moves in advance so you continue to keep yourself safe until the opponent makes a mistake that you can take advantage of.
toleodor 1 year ago
@haveajerk Movie fights are super-exaggerated an choreographed. You would never find two people so evenly matched as to be able to deflect so many blows. A normal fight would be over much faster. 'course it's no fun to just have someone die so quickly with so little action. The purpose of movies is to display impossible fantasies, and this sword fight is an amazing example.
Ninjujitsu 1 year ago
@Ninjujitsu Yes, it is true; but there is a degree of realism that must be fulfilled, I think so. One can review many sword fights in movies and find that there are very well coreographed duels and sword-clashing-scenes like this one, except around at 2:07 :)
MAGUIARGIL 1 year ago
because in olympic fencing, noone gets killed
leroux201 1 year ago
Capitan got owned :D
Miklu93 1 year ago
i think the originals where in black and white :p
phoenixhunters 1 year ago
why isn't Olympic fencing this fun to watch!
Womper55 1 year ago
@Womper55 Too many rules :p The olympics should really have historical fencing instead of sports fencing, it's much more entertaining and the weapons are much more fun
Shindai 1 year ago
@Shindai plus it never ends up looking this cool, no matter how good you are.
Slypaperclips 1 year ago
@Womper55 People would die? LOL.
leidbag 1 year ago
@Womper55 Because duelling with epees only takes place on one axis; you can move forward or backwards, but not sideways?
Prod1Kh 1 year ago
Do not forget: the Spanish Main with Paul Henried...Scaramouche with Stewart Granger...
The Purple Mask with Tony Curtis.
johncarter55 1 year ago
The best movie swordfight ever recorded. No wires, no fancy special effects. Pure skill and commitment. Bravo!
SergeofPower 1 year ago 6
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FlippinBooks 1 year ago
Hang on a tic, wasn't Rathbone's villain called Pasquale? Perhaps I am mistaken...
Scruffy193 2 years ago 3
You're not mistaken - Captain Esteban Pasquale
ShinobiSpade1981 1 year ago
@Scruffy193 Where the hell did I get Mondego from? :| I must have been watching the Count of Monte Cristo or something while I uploaded this lol I can't believe I've had that wrong all this time :$
Shindai 1 year ago
@Shindai There's a pretty good fencing scene in "The Count of Monte Cristo", too. So at least you weren't far off! :)
FlippinBooks 1 year ago
epic!
highonthis 2 years ago
I always hated seeing Rathbone losing duels because he's so damn good! I wish there was one really good duel that he wins. Romeo & Juliet doesn't count. I would love to see the slo-mo version. Thanks for posting.
akarpowicz 2 years ago 4
Hehe I absolutely agree, I've only seen him in this film and The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938 I think it was), and I've seen the last fight of The Court Jester, the man's a legend, would love to have seen him play a hero like Zorro or Robin Hood himself just once. I'll try to remember to upload the slow motion one for you :) If it ain't up in two days email me to get me off my arse lol
Shindai 2 years ago
Gotta love the old swordfights, where the gentlemen would exchange quips AND blows whilst keeping their cool.
Swordfights are much cooler than gunfights, IMO...
Scruffy193 2 years ago 10
Usually I'd insist people don't state their opinions as fact but "swordfights are cooler than gunfights" is just undeniable :p Few gunfights I've ever seen come close to the coolness of a good duel (Face/Off, for example)
Shindai 2 years ago
@Shindai,
I agree, and I too dislike people stating opinion as fact, hence why I said "In My Opinion"...
Scruffy193 2 years ago
Sorry, wasn't suggesting what you said bugged me, I mean what you said is so true it bypasses mere opinion and becomes undisputed fact :) I fail at eloquence :$
Shindai 2 years ago
Masterful Duel
Doyleray44 2 years ago 3
this was a great movie, i bought it for 5 bucks at best buy, what a steal
hilite101 2 years ago
DUDE!!!!! Basil Rathbone is THE BEST swordfighter ever!!!!! HE'S FREAKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!
Nergaladdictchic 2 years ago 20
@Nergaladdictchic And always condemned to play the bad guy because he was British. Had to lose to Tyrone Power and Errol Flynn (who couldn't hold a candle to him), but apparrently thought that Danny Kaye would have been an excellent fencer if he'd taken it up as a sport.
Prod1Kh 1 year ago
@Nergaladdictchic You are right!! Basil Rathbone is fabuolus! And not only in Sherlock Holmes!!
MissCartoon97 9 months ago
@Nergaladdictchic I dont know, tyrone power is a very powerful swordsman, fast on his feet and much younger and quite handsome too!
cleopatrabonz 8 months ago
Graceful and elegant! Nothing beats this swordfight, not even the zorros of today.
Already bought the remastered DVD with colored, and black and white version.
vappnocash 2 years ago 4
Epic duel
Elchikodelgas 2 years ago
This was intense, must be the best sword fight I've seen.
samwyse2006 2 years ago
My God....Rathbone's beat-double at 2:24...with a straight arm! The control!
homfencing 2 years ago
It's amazing what you can do when you and you're opponent let each others actions develop.
yellowvespa04 2 years ago
Or when it's both choreographed and fenced well!
homfencing 2 years ago
I think you;ll find the cut to his shoulder is at 3:06
jimb0jet 2 years ago
@jimb0jet
Agreed: the cut is at 3.06
What a fantastic scene. THIS is acting. Seriously, I don't see anything contemporary that compares.
atrainhxdotcom 1 year ago
@atrainhxdotcom You and jimb0jet are right, now it's been pointed out I can see it. funny, I saw this scene so many times before now but never noticed that.
Shindai 1 year ago
BUT!!!,
when did he receive the scratch?,
I've seen the DVD and this video and never see when he was struck by El Capitan.
Either bad editing or perhaps T.Powers forgot his line.
Regardless, an excellent scene, very good movie.
pugliesej 2 years ago
That's always bothered me too :/
Shindai 2 years ago
Absolutely best duel ever! Basil was the best! He's so good I'd rather be him in this duel than Zorro.
jscardul 2 years ago 3
this is considered the best/most realistic duel in the history of cinema.
primarydominant 2 years ago
This is one of the best hollywood sword fights. It's very intense and keeps you on the edge of your seat. Kung fu got nothing on these guys.
Jiosonus 2 years ago
'I might be tempted - if I had a weapon' - oh Diego is such a beautiful, handsome man.....
and this fight scene is magnificient!!!!
I fenced for 3 years, and it feels so nice to watch them...
orsolyaerdelyi 2 years ago
Rathbone was trained in fencing..but always seemed to be cast as the bad guy..and had to lose
berkeleyhome 2 years ago 3
I agree, but look on the positive side, only the most badass people can be baddies as well as him :)
Shindai 2 years ago
And its a testament to his skill. It takes a very skilled fencer to lose in a cinematically convincing way.
LuciusTheFair 2 years ago
I thought I heard somewhere, during the filming of The Adventures of Robin Hood, Rathbone got so fed up with Flynn fooling around during the fencing scenes he almost legitimately went after him. Don't know the truth behind this story, though.
Stormstallion 2 years ago 4
Absolutely correct, Ratbone was furious over the fact that Flynn didn't regard fencing as a serious sport.
djv026 2 years ago
all too true. I heard that story as well. I even tried out fencing for myself having first thought of it as a bit of a joke. got my ass kicked. it is a true sport that takes an hour to learn and a lifetime to master.
hellzanetruesdale 1 year ago
@Stormstallion LOL, I could see that. Rathbone said in an interview that he used to tell Flynn, "You may be the one who gets the girl, but I can still kill you any time I want to." And I'm pretty sure he was only half-kidding. :P
FlippinBooks 1 year ago
Best.
Swordfight.
Ever.
Neutron1984 2 years ago 3
they must have practiced a lot, that's quite dangerous without protective equipment.
Shumeshi 2 years ago
Basil dies so gracefully. Best swordfight on film, done by the two best duellers in Hollywood, Rathbone and Tyrone Power.
errolfan 2 years ago 13
Thanks for sharing it with us, I´m not a Zorro fan, but this Film I really like, maybe while Basil is in it ;) And the scene is awesome!!!
Prisha308 2 years ago
Does anyone else think this is better without music? I'm sure the right kind of music could make it awesomer, but it would be so easy to completely ruin it, don't you agree?
Shindai 3 years ago
Thanks for the upload. How much better is not this fencing than the "touch and fall" crap in lotr and other overmade productions?
LaTripleaResistance 3 years ago
To tell you the truth, i have no idea, not seen the LOTR movies :) But I'm gonna guess - much much better :D
Shindai 3 years ago
The best sword fight in movie history. Thanks for the upload
sdsadsaf 3 years ago
No problem, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comment :)
Shindai 3 years ago
despite the coreography this is the most beautiful sabre work i have ever seen, blade control is amazing!!!!!!!!
Tehosennake 3 years ago
Despite the choreography? I don't mean to sound confrontational, but what's wrong with it? I don't know much about fencing beyond the footwork and stances, would you mind explaining?
Shindai 3 years ago
imagine if competitive sabre looked like this while on a piste (which it doesnt look like this). I would love sabre 10 times more than I already do. Thats what I meant, because of the choreography, the blade work is more precise and flowing for the both of the fighters, which would never happen in competitive sabre. Competitive sabre is much more abrupt and fast (it would be more interesting though if to get a point in sabre it took two miniutes).
Tehosennake 3 years ago
Ah, I understand better. I've never seen saber, only foil (and to be honest found it very dull to watch) though I've fought with saber and found it more interesting. Thank you for taking the time to explain what you meant :)
Shindai 3 years ago
@Tehosennake That's why I could never get into competitive saber when I was taking fencing, I found it too abrupt and fast to really enjoy. I loved doing more casual practice duels with sabre though.
ForbiddenFruit73 1 year ago
My God...the blade control!!
And Rathbone's beat/straight-armed disengage at 2:25...VERY difficult to do cleanly with a modern Olympic weapoin, let alone a more period weapon.
homfencing 3 years ago
Ah, someone who appreciates the subtleties of such a scene :) Always a pleasure to have something I uploaded complimented by someone with a clue lol
Shindai 3 years ago
Heh....well, I DO happen to be a fencer (primarily sabre, although I do far more teaching than competing these days)...and I work at SwordPlay in Burbank, CA, which includes a fine stage combat team....so I've seen some good stage work before!
homfencing 3 years ago
Very nice :) I've done some historical fencing in my time, don't really know a great deal about fencing, didn't stay long coz it was hard to get too, but I've always loved to watch fencing in movies like this :) This scene is truly one of the best I've seen, certainly one of my favourites.
Shindai 3 years ago
Good ol' Basil, what a swordsman! Villain or not, I'm always rooting for him to win!
escottish140 3 years ago
Thats a classic.I haven't seen that since i was a kid and it was an old movie then.
shengchenfan 3 years ago