@proudnunashamed YOu said it sister.THere is a documentary that recently aired called "World's Worst Place to be gay?". It's about LGBT life in UGANDA.I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU WATCH IT.
I'm gay and also a trans-man, I had to deal with the negative comments and listen to the bigotry beliefs from friends and family members and had to hide what I am just to be safe (I still do), but I will never give up hope. No matter how bad it appears, there's always a way. Hope is a beautiful thing that keeps us alive :)
@dizzy365 I loved everything about it, even though the ending bothered me. I mean, it was powerful. I can still see Sean Penn begging for White not to kill him. The slow motion thing made it that much more dramatic. For that reason I'm not sure I could watch again. at least not immediately. But reading about Supervisor Milk is very rewarding and inspiring.
A truly inspiring man who gave the first seeds of hope to generations of the oppressed. We should always remember that his life is one that all should aspire to in the political arena. To give a voice to those whom feel they do not have one. He is one of the most important figures of world history and all should take his words and run with them "You Gotta Give Them Hope" Thank you Harvey.
I know, I'm a total pedant, but I'd love this video so much more if it omitted the catastropostrophes in " Bryant's " and " Briggs' ". OP: how much work would it take to upload?
Thank you for uploading this. After seeing many activist videos, this is the first in recent months to make me cry. It reminds me of why I do what I do: sticking up for gay rights, voting down hate propositions, and upholding the free rights of the Western world (not just the USA - I'm British)... Harvey Milk, speaking to us from a more brutal and yet less dangerous time, still shows us that it's all worth it.
I am a straight man and have fallen in love with the most amazing girl I've ever met in my life. She is beyond words, but there is a complicated situation and I fear I may never be with her despite my wishes to spend my entire life with her. I saw this on a recommended video, not sure why or how, but I decided to watch it.I know it's a different situation, but Mr. Harvey Milk you have just given me hope that things will be OK. Thank you sir.
Harvey Milk, I don't know how to call you in Heaven, but I also have a message for you; thank you. Thank you for the hope you provide the LGBT community, for fighting for our equality and for genuinly making the world a better place. I am a 15 year old female bisexual in the closet. The world is a scary place out there, and I fear that when I come out I will be judged and disowned by a few friends and members of my family. But you gave me HOPE.
I'm straight, but strongly feel Milk was one of the most inspirational, intelligent, open minded and loving politicians of all time who happened to be gay.
Sunday 22nd May is Harvey Milk's 81st birthday. To celebrate his life why not make a video for my Milk inspired campaign, Give 'em Hope? Watch the video invitation on my page and join this important initiative to inspire ALL young people who doubt themselves....give them hope. MAKE A VIDEO AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE TODAY.
I did my religion culminating project on Harvey Milk, it was supposed to be a person of faith even though harvey milk wasn't very religious I was allowed to do it on him. The fact that he wanted people to live free and together alone would be a whole new type of religion. It would be a religion of acceptance.
@hah13 stop using vocabulary to insult a retarded stupid person like me, it makes you look way stupider than you sound on the internet and your life, stupid...
@timothyterry1 Go to hell. Im attracted to what im atracted to and you have no right to judge another human being. Being gay is biological. Its not wrong.
Jesus. Why is it that every politician (Milk, JFK, Lincoln) or important public speaker (Martin Luther King Jr.) who stands up for what's right is always murdered?
Honestly - it's ridiculous!
Stupid religious bigots. I hope they realize one day, cruelly and harshly, how wrong they were.
@YaoiRocksYourSocks While I agree with your sentiment, I dispute your facts. "Stupid religious bigots" is a pretty outrageous statement to make, considering that, ostensibly, none of the people you cited were murdered for primarily religious reasons. Please be careful that, in your rush to denounce bigotry and stereotyping, you don't encourage an 'us and them' attitude when it comes to religion. Yours, a tolerant atheist.
My, my. The hypocrisy oozing out of this statement is simply disgusting. Of course, you're the person who decides what is right and wrong, and everyone else who doesn't comply to these standards are stupid religious bigots.
The people who say that you, or I or they aren't 'real' people, or don't deserve the basic rights and freedoms enjoyed by the majority because we're too queer, too black, too female or too un-Christian are WRONG. It doesn't matter what their justification is - we are all human, and we all deserve to be treated as such.
@MrPewp Dude... do you know how long ago I wrote this?
Eight months.
I've become a little more mature since then.
Still, though. Murdering someone because they're standing up for what they think is right IS wrong, in the eyes of this nation and its Constitution - not just me.
@YaoiRocksYourSocks Sadly it happens to almost everyone who stands up against the status quo, like you mentioned MLK, JFK, Lincoln, and Milk. But what about Jesus he was murdered by the Pharisees for preaching against them. Maybe these bigots should remember that, when they think about killing a public official or just someone who shakes things up.
@YaoiRocksYourSocks Yeah he was Jewish, but he still spoke out against them and they had him killed. Yes society needs to be educated better, but the churches aren't helping. Or just mind their own business, it may be a cliche by now, but If you're against gay marriage then don't get one.
@dustcloud36 You're not thinking about the fact that Jesus was supposedly alive from 4 BC to 30 AD; people were afraid of basically everything, because they had very simple minds.
Some people still do have very simple minds, but they have enough logic to realize that killing another person is not exactly a good thing to do.
I agree, the churches need to mind their own business, especially in America where religion is not at all meant to interfere with the government.
im glad harvey milks dead lmao......God says, "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13). God views homosexuality as "detestable" or, as in the King James version of the Bible, "an abomination".
@Roldulffff Well, aren't you a huge bigot. It's people like you - ignorant, prejudiced, black-hearted people - who make the world that little bit worse every day. And judging by your grip of grammar in the last message, you're an idiot too. If you manage to find any "women" to "fuck" I'll be very surprised...
This is such a powerful speech. I just don't understand how people can hate homosexuals. It's like telling people that LOVE ITSELF is wrong.
Hope is never going to die. I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to breathe and not be judged by who I love but for who I AM. And God loves EVERYONE, just so you know.
Thanks Harvey, for shedding at least a little more hope into my life.
WOW this is such a Powerfull speach it gives me chills every time I hear it this time it almost brought me to tears I am recentlly comeing back out from being scared back in the closet by my Conservative Christian family but the more I watch videos like this I am NOT Ashamed to be Gay anymore even in the Small Texas town I live in my mom and I were very disagreent when I first came out she loved Anita Bryant but before mom died she said she accepted me and was proud of her GAY son her GayCowboy
Great speech, I can't beleive in this day and age that so many people can be so intolerant and scared of gay love, im straight and ive been fine with it my whole life, really its not a big deal, sexual orientation isnt a choice. Get the fuck over it
Those who attack homosexuals for loving their own, are the very people who will not read the statistics on who the real pedophiles are; who their real enemies are relative to the quality of life on the planet. They are those who preach hate and divisiveness among people whose only sin is wanting the right to love who they love. These haters identify themselves as true imbeciles who cannot think for themselves. That so many churches preach hate of homosexuality speaks loudly enough.
I'm in tears... I've been in awe of Harvey Milk since I watched "Milk" with Sean Penn. What an inspiration: my mum is gay, and people like Harvey give her, myself and gay people and their friends and family around the word HOPE. That one, small word is worth everything
there r gay perverts and peadophiles,there are straight perverts and peadophiles.there are gay actors and actresses,and there are straight ones,too.gay,straight,gay,straight?WtF,just be happy for opening your eyes yet another day.heaven or hell?I want to live today and have these so called "real HUMAN moments".jean815 it's the 21st century we live in and some biggots obviously live in the head-up-their-ass century.if we gonna quote the bible so much "in god's eyes we're all equal".be yourselves.
When Mr. Milk discusses electing gay people the only way in which that can be done is voting.This election the scariest I've ever seen considering the extreme views of tea party candidates which definitely includes a federal ban on marriage and rights in any form for gay citizens.We have power in our vote and while some including myself are disappointed with civil rights progress in the last two years,if we stay home Nov.2 the results will be a retreat of progress we have made...please vote
I listen to this every night before I go to bed. I'm not gay, but a fighter for gay rights. When I looked at this tonight I felt so hopeful. Then I saw it said he had been assasinated in the box. I hate humanity.
@dougtaiwan the closed caption feature on YouTube allows the words to be translated to other languages; this is a setting that's turned in on your preferences- you can turn it off by going to Account> Playback Setup> Captions.
Posting honor of the young adults whose choosen suicude feeling alone, bullied and feeling like suicide is the only option. This madness must stop. We must support teens/yound adults in there time of greatest need and support, We all need to be gentle, times are too rough, and teens in many ways needs our love and support,
"And suddenly, there are two new options." Wow. What an incredible person. Taken too soon by a bigot who couldn't cope with the idea of a gay man being more successful in politics that he was.
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Remarkable how propagandistic and screamy it sounds, like an advertisement campaign concocted by some not even too slick agent; the "bright new world" theme, that'll work. Oh, the "poor child narrative", always effective. Let's slip that in...Pfft
Excuse me, but the way thigs are run in this country, the way the legalism and rights are determined costs LGBT people of actual economical, physical and spiritual SUBSTANCE.
@suddenlyitsobvious Go ask any Christian antigay activist and you'll find out what the problem is and why we have to be inundated for 150+ years. I'll even boil it into a nutshell for you! The right-wing Christians are so committed to their doctrine of antihomosexuality that they've totally forgotten that their God is no respecter of persons. They are also wilfully ignorant of the consensus of medical, psychological and biological sciences concerning homosexuality.
@suddenlyitsobvious Science doesn't know the exact cause but they've ruled out choice and postnatal environmental influences. When you're talking about something as complex as human sexuality you gotta look at many many causes. Some of these searches lead to blind alleys.
And the massive militanty gay action was justified! There was a study done by Dr Evelyn Hooker in 1958 that showed gays didn't suffer any more from *OTHER* official psychological disorders than heteros.
Science doesn't know the exact cause but they've ruled out choice and postnatal environmental influences.
Yeah it doesn't.
It has suited homosexual activism to present homosexuality as "inborn" for a variety of reasons, one being that if you are "born that way", then "it's not your fault". Meaning there were advantages to this narrative in STRATEGIC TERMS.
Most gays have mindlessly taken over this BASELESS CLAIM, because they are not aware of having made a CONSCIOUS CHOICE.
Following this logic you could equally say you were a born anglophone: who remembers having learned english?
Gays would do well to focus on this kind of issues, rather than blindly trust authority and science. Why are people gay? Nobody knows. Yet we are all "EQUAL". Just not good enough.
Fryer's speech was a mediatic farce.
You are fighting against "injustice" but you're being manipulated. I'm trying to understand gays and society.
@suddenlyitsobvious You are just willfully ignorant to the point I can't argue with you anymore! It's like talking to a brick wall. There are lots of reasons why science is looking into biology for what causes some to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, intersex and others are born hetero. Ask any scientist if it's due to pressure from gays and he'll tell you with conviction, "No." Get educated.
...of course NOT suggesting homosexuality ITSELF is being engineered, but THE IDENTITY emerging from it.
The gay identity.
Do you think the Spartan Warrior Men, if we need to take an image, were like Chris Crocker or boy George?
The "gay man" is a cultural construct that's a work in progress.
Sexual preference and behaviour didn't use to have such a fullblow impact on social identity, and soon we can expect a married couple model with import kids from Taiwan. That's ENGINEERING.
Therefore, I was suggesting gays might have an interest in figuring out why they even are homosexual, what the gay identity is, what's really going on with this incessant revendicative societal debate, why science doesn't have a clue, etc.
Getting a PERSPECTIVE. That's what I was referring to mainly.
...action and the pleading of dr Fryer, an anonymous gay psychiatrist, addressing the APA, his face hidden in a halloween mask. He addressed the gathered psychiatrists from a stage with a ten minute speech. The speech was pathetic and the entire thing a farce.
This was one of the "huge gay victories".
It's got nothing to do with science of course.
Can't you see the homosexual issue is being whipped up ON PURPOSE?
@suddenlyitsobvious Gee ya think the reason he had his head in a bag was because the shrinks who couldn't handle other people's sexuality other than their own would have been drummed out of the APA???
"Gee ya think the reason he had his head in a bag was because..."
No, I think the entire thing was a COMPLETE STAGED FARCE and that it had already been decided homosexuality was to be unlisted from the DSMIV manual.
If you understand anything about society, you'll immediately realize that the APA does NOT base it's decisions on 10 minute melodramatic piffle from a Halloweenbagged Mr Anonymous.
STAGED man. The entire thing was STAGED. Like Stonewall btw.
I was wondering if you're being sarcastic but one glance at your channel sufficed:
Pat Condell. Eew! I suppose you consider that "caustic wit"? What a toxic minded self-important puffbal the idiot is...
I fail to see how your post relates to mine, what votes were rigged, what needs rescinding?
Why immediately bring the NWO into this, when what was at issue was essentially the engineering of a culturally based gay identity. Do you contend social engineering NOT take place?
or rather irritated at the typical and ubiquitous strategy I often encounter, that consists of attempting to disqualify a point through equating it with a larger body of "thought" that is consequently ridiculed.
Thus perfectly valid substantive comments about homosexuality and its treatment in the public sphere tend to be invalidated with the accusation of:
-being a product of a deluded fundamentalist christian, or
@suddenlyitsobvious - oh dear. You have every right to examine all points, whether out of context or in a larger context as you wish. I've thought about the concept of Govts' social engineering myself.
But eventually I return to the simple fact that all people are equal and deserve the same rights.
It's anti-Christian to deny them equal treatment, and for the non-religious it's INhumane to treat gays as different.
It's positive for society and the economy for gays to get married.
"But eventually I return to the simple fact that all people are equal and deserve the same rights."
And here is where you -and society- get simplistic and reductive. Equal rights...
Do you realize this notion IMPLIES these rights are GRANTED, meaning in fighting for rights WE ALREADY HAVE we're merely acknowledging and feeding the judicial system, at the cost of ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
Tell me: why should two guys getting together have the RIGHT to adopt some child...
Why indeed do kids get shipped all over the world like coffee beans?
Don't you find this is rather BIZARRE?
I do.
Screaming to be equal to straights seems pretty mindless to me. Marriage? Shouldn't we consider WHAT THIS INSTITUTION ACTUALLY IS before screaming it's a RIGHT?
Good for the economy? Do you understand why the financial system has collapsed and why millions of americans...
This entire issue would have been solved AGES ago if the adoption thing was dropped and gays settled for a recognized partnership, meaning the finances etc are secure.
There is no reason WHATSOEVER to discuss rights and oppression for 150 years!
Anyway, I don't understand why you brought up the NWO and how you see it relating to/controlling gay issues.
Gays are being sucked into a societal agenda. I suggest looking from a much, but really...
@suddenlyitsobvious - not really sure what you are saying here.I will have to go out now & consider it. I think I've been quite clear, & yes I realise the economy crash was engineered to lead us to one world bank. Aids was also engineered as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure what you mean about 'toxic dose''.
Surely the stability of gay marriages will be helpful in all ways. As far as the economy goes, gays will have to pay for lawyers to divorce them or not, etc. just like anyone
It now seems I have misinterpreted your post. Your mention of "hysteria", "dastardly" and "nefarious NWO" struck me as an attempt at ridicule, and so you clarify it was not. All the better & I apologize for being snappy.
However, if you are in fact serious, I suggest first of all that using such superlatives tends to distract from the issue, and may contribute, in a context where the NWO already is subject to ...
...subject to profound unbelief and ridicule by the masses, to further invalidating this very idea of NWO, manipulation, deception and social engineering.
Anyway, seems we agree that the gay issue is being manipulated and instrumentalized. It's CONSTANTLY being whipped up in the public arena.
The problem with "marriage" and "rights" is that it's a monolithic discourse, bringing gays under the RULE OF LAW, and the liberational process ITSELF is actually MOLDING the gay...
We're assisting at the engineering of a CULTURAL MODEL: the gay couple, IDENTICAL in all senses to the straight couple, ideally equipped with a Vietnamese or Malgach import child, living in a rosy suburb like a cheesy unreal couple out of some absurd 50s commercial.
This vision of the gay man in society is in my opinion COMPLETELY DELUDED,
& this LEGAL struggle for "rights" is actually a con, creating a very bizarre, controlled new type of social homosexuality.
@suddenlyitsobvious - that's quite a vision! Tastes differing the way they do, I doubt everyone will fit in with it.
Ultimately, evolution is great. Recognition of all members of society would create a lot more happiness.
The only way you'd notice gay marriage is that there'd be less tortured teens & disenfranchised people.
A healthier society, who can concentrate on other issues instead of pleading for basic respect, eg. on the death of partner, to be legally be seen as next of kin.
@proudnunashamed YOu said it sister.THere is a documentary that recently aired called "World's Worst Place to be gay?". It's about LGBT life in UGANDA.I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU WATCH IT.
tripeandbean 3 months ago
and you've got to elect gay people smh.
Inertiatrajectory 3 months ago
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS VIDEO! THEY NEED ANOTHER HARVEY MILK IN THIS DAY IN AGE
jprongay 3 months ago
Amazing and Inspiring.
MrLamentation 3 months ago
I'm gay and also a trans-man, I had to deal with the negative comments and listen to the bigotry beliefs from friends and family members and had to hide what I am just to be safe (I still do), but I will never give up hope. No matter how bad it appears, there's always a way. Hope is a beautiful thing that keeps us alive :)
Isaacthekid 4 months ago 2
This is inspiring.Is this the LGBT counterpart to MLK Jr.'s "I Have a Dream Speech"?
tripeandbean 4 months ago
One of the best videos on YouTube.
MeLovesFilms 5 months ago
This is the guy who could've brought 'CHANGE'. What a horrible loss. (I just saw the movie 'MILK' last night and it was AWESOME!)
HayduMan1 5 months ago 3
@HayduMan1 me too!
dizzy365 5 months ago
@dizzy365 I loved everything about it, even though the ending bothered me. I mean, it was powerful. I can still see Sean Penn begging for White not to kill him. The slow motion thing made it that much more dramatic. For that reason I'm not sure I could watch again. at least not immediately. But reading about Supervisor Milk is very rewarding and inspiring.
HayduMan1 5 months ago 2
A truly inspiring man who gave the first seeds of hope to generations of the oppressed. We should always remember that his life is one that all should aspire to in the political arena. To give a voice to those whom feel they do not have one. He is one of the most important figures of world history and all should take his words and run with them "You Gotta Give Them Hope" Thank you Harvey.
24godsent 5 months ago 2
Even though you are not here, Harvey Milk, you continue to make a difference in the world. Thank you.
Tsundre1 5 months ago 4
How can i make a video like this?
bblack1511 6 months ago
I know, I'm a total pedant, but I'd love this video so much more if it omitted the catastropostrophes in " Bryant's " and " Briggs' ". OP: how much work would it take to upload?
oxfordruse 6 months ago 2
Thank you for uploading this. After seeing many activist videos, this is the first in recent months to make me cry. It reminds me of why I do what I do: sticking up for gay rights, voting down hate propositions, and upholding the free rights of the Western world (not just the USA - I'm British)... Harvey Milk, speaking to us from a more brutal and yet less dangerous time, still shows us that it's all worth it.
oxfordruse 6 months ago
I am a straight man and have fallen in love with the most amazing girl I've ever met in my life. She is beyond words, but there is a complicated situation and I fear I may never be with her despite my wishes to spend my entire life with her. I saw this on a recommended video, not sure why or how, but I decided to watch it.I know it's a different situation, but Mr. Harvey Milk you have just given me hope that things will be OK. Thank you sir.
DarkAnderebu 6 months ago 2
Harvey Milk, I don't know how to call you in Heaven, but I also have a message for you; thank you. Thank you for the hope you provide the LGBT community, for fighting for our equality and for genuinly making the world a better place. I am a 15 year old female bisexual in the closet. The world is a scary place out there, and I fear that when I come out I will be judged and disowned by a few friends and members of my family. But you gave me HOPE.
kodatastical 7 months ago
I'm straight, but strongly feel Milk was one of the most inspirational, intelligent, open minded and loving politicians of all time who happened to be gay.
sleicht5 7 months ago 2
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503ttd 7 months ago
Sublime.
We need more people like Harvey Milk. We got our first black president, let's go for our first openly gay president now!
SoraKumiko 8 months ago 4
I'm not even gay and this means something to me. We need more Harvey Milks in this world
spacely123 8 months ago 3
Happy birthday, Harvey! Thank you for your contributions in the struggle for equality.
ImaginarySkyfriend 8 months ago
Message to you 22 who 'dislike' this positive and inspiring video for everyone:
Almost 1500 people here say that You. Are. WRONG.
TllGrrl 8 months ago 2
Sunday 22nd May is Harvey Milk's 81st birthday. To celebrate his life why not make a video for my Milk inspired campaign, Give 'em Hope? Watch the video invitation on my page and join this important initiative to inspire ALL young people who doubt themselves....give them hope. MAKE A VIDEO AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE TODAY.
NBIassociates 8 months ago 4
I'm straight, and even I'm moved by this.
JesterKatz 8 months ago 3
this man is an ordinary hero of mine, the best kind of hero!
the1tigglet 8 months ago
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elect the gay people and then shoot them ha haha ultimately that is what happened to this asshole
G41MCombo 8 months ago
22 people who need to open their eyes
ke11yke11z 8 months ago
An eye-opener speech!
DBalindong 9 months ago
I did my religion culminating project on Harvey Milk, it was supposed to be a person of faith even though harvey milk wasn't very religious I was allowed to do it on him. The fact that he wanted people to live free and together alone would be a whole new type of religion. It would be a religion of acceptance.
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fuk u gays
blitzflame08 9 months ago
@blitzflame08 You're a cockroach.
pistleninja 9 months ago
now thats what i call a damn good speech
HaloChick15 9 months ago 16
I don't think voting for someone based on their sexual orientation or race is going to make the world a better place.
swedishvolvo 9 months ago
"I know that you cannot live on hope alone, but without it life is not worth living."
Lieselle 9 months ago 7
in my book this is right up there with the "I have a dream speech"
17RedPhoenix 9 months ago 5
Rest in Peace Harvey Milk... thank you
gregchance324 10 months ago 3
where can I find the speech, without music?
hevanescencarrillo 10 months ago
What an amazing speech!
JinZin1986 10 months ago
Is there anyway I can get a copy of this video?
rob8241 11 months ago 3
@rob8241 you can download the .mp4 at blip (dot) tv/file/1378277
Causecast 10 months ago
@Causecast Sorry I couldn't find it, can you please make it more clearer, I'm not very good with computers.
rob8241 10 months ago
@rob8241 paste the link into a youtube downloading service like keepvid [dot] com or something and you can download it I'm pretty sure
VishalSinghFilms 9 months ago
I get shivers down my spine everytime I hear this. This speech is so inspirational.
JoshDeeseFBLA 11 months ago
i love this video! Harvey Milk is my hero! forever. and always.
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0:16 lol faggot lesbo XD
GODXSMOKESXHASH 11 months ago
I teared up listening to that, a great man taken way before his time
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kalingamahala 1 year ago
Splendid, and I too tear up when I see it.
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Causecast 1 year ago
Nice video. All the "US's"- The Blacks, The Asians, The Disabled, The Seniors...
Goosebumps...
mecagoenboba 1 year ago 4
I listen to this speech every day. <3
713Polaris 1 year ago
20 people are straight, which is a good thing cuz who likes fucking faggots?
Roldulffff 1 year ago
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@Roldulffff Your a dumb bitch. fucking cunt.
timothyterry1 1 year ago
Where did you find the audio of the speech? I am making a gay rights video and I really would love to have this speech in it. Thank you!
FORTUNATEonly 1 year ago
fuck u strait ass holes talking shit ill fuck any one up talking shit about us bitches being gay is an act of nature dumb asses .
taylorlife777 1 year ago
@taylorlife777 fucking faggot lolololzzzzz
Roldulffff 1 year ago
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im flagging and gonna have help flagging this vid cuz its wrong to be gay lolololzzzz
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@Roldulffff bigot
hah13 1 year ago
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1,305 people are fucking faggots, just like EdNortonisMineLol and haha13
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@Roldulffff and you're a non-fucking faggot?
hah13 1 year ago
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@hah13 fuck yeah, fucking faggot lololoozzzz youll never get too meee muahahahaha
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@hah13 stop using vocabulary to insult a retarded stupid person like me, it makes you look way stupider than you sound on the internet and your life, stupid...
Roldulffff 1 year ago
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@hah13 shouldnt have fucked with me, let me call these people faggots
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@hah13 "let me?" no let me rephrase that, leave me be and i will leave you be
Roldulffff 1 year ago
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@Roldulffff Your a dumb bitch. your a total cunt.
timothyterry1 1 year ago
He was such a fighter. I sall his life movies, and he was such a strong person. Im gay and hes a role module.
timothyterry1 1 year ago
@timothyterry1 dude turn straight, theres no way you can let yourself suffer like that
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@timothyterry1 Go to hell. Im attracted to what im atracted to and you have no right to judge another human being. Being gay is biological. Its not wrong.
timothyterry1 1 year ago
@timothyterry1 ??? you r soooooo wrong
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@Roldulffff Your an ignorant fuck. Take your bible and stick it up your ass.
timothyterry1 1 year ago
Why do all these great people have to get assassinated? RIP Harvey!
Eurrsk 1 year ago
@Eurrsk they get ASSASSinnated cuz they gay lololoolzzzz
Roldulffff 1 year ago
Of course he was assassinated...
Jesus. Why is it that every politician (Milk, JFK, Lincoln) or important public speaker (Martin Luther King Jr.) who stands up for what's right is always murdered?
Honestly - it's ridiculous!
Stupid religious bigots. I hope they realize one day, cruelly and harshly, how wrong they were.
YaoiRocksYourSocks 1 year ago 39
@YaoiRocksYourSocks While I agree with your sentiment, I dispute your facts. "Stupid religious bigots" is a pretty outrageous statement to make, considering that, ostensibly, none of the people you cited were murdered for primarily religious reasons. Please be careful that, in your rush to denounce bigotry and stereotyping, you don't encourage an 'us and them' attitude when it comes to religion. Yours, a tolerant atheist.
oxfordruse 6 months ago
@YaoiRocksYourSocks
My, my. The hypocrisy oozing out of this statement is simply disgusting. Of course, you're the person who decides what is right and wrong, and everyone else who doesn't comply to these standards are stupid religious bigots.
MrPewp 4 months ago
@MrPewp No.
The people who say that you, or I or they aren't 'real' people, or don't deserve the basic rights and freedoms enjoyed by the majority because we're too queer, too black, too female or too un-Christian are WRONG. It doesn't matter what their justification is - we are all human, and we all deserve to be treated as such.
PaHsia 4 months ago
@MrPewp Dude... do you know how long ago I wrote this?
Eight months.
I've become a little more mature since then.
Still, though. Murdering someone because they're standing up for what they think is right IS wrong, in the eyes of this nation and its Constitution - not just me.
YaoiRocksYourSocks 4 months ago
@YaoiRocksYourSocks
I concede to that argument.
MrPewp 4 months ago
@MrPewp Thank you.
YaoiRocksYourSocks 4 months ago
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dustcloud36 4 months ago
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@YaoiRocksYourSocks Sadly it happens to almost everyone who stands up against the status quo, like you mentioned MLK, JFK, Lincoln, and Milk. But what about Jesus he was murdered by the Pharisees for preaching against them. Maybe these bigots should remember that, when they think about killing a public official or just someone who shakes things up.
dustcloud36 4 months ago
@dustcloud36 ... Dude, Jesus WAS Pharisaic. A lot of people don't realize that.
Plus, not only bigots kill that which they do not approve of.
There are plenty of people who aren't religious but hate gays - all because of how they were raised.
Societies standards these days.
YaoiRocksYourSocks 4 months ago
@YaoiRocksYourSocks Yeah he was Jewish, but he still spoke out against them and they had him killed. Yes society needs to be educated better, but the churches aren't helping. Or just mind their own business, it may be a cliche by now, but If you're against gay marriage then don't get one.
dustcloud36 4 months ago
@dustcloud36 You're not thinking about the fact that Jesus was supposedly alive from 4 BC to 30 AD; people were afraid of basically everything, because they had very simple minds.
Some people still do have very simple minds, but they have enough logic to realize that killing another person is not exactly a good thing to do.
I agree, the churches need to mind their own business, especially in America where religion is not at all meant to interfere with the government.
YaoiRocksYourSocks 4 months ago
@YaoiRocksYourSocks Ok, I'm going to give you a chance to save yourself. "BC" means Before Christ; "AD" means After Death. Need I say more?
lyricman17 1 day ago
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im glad harvey milks dead lmao......God says, "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13). God views homosexuality as "detestable" or, as in the King James version of the Bible, "an abomination".
MrImsokewl 1 year ago
What is the song in the background?? Good speech Harvey Milk helped so many people
LilGrey456 1 year ago
@LilGrey456 it's an original song by Michael Cheever.
Causecast 1 year ago
@Causecast Any chance you could upload the track or send me a link to where I could download it? It's great.
jackk2786 11 months ago
A great, great man. True inspiration and a true hero. RIP Harvey Milk.
VishalSinghFilms 1 year ago
I'm going to stop this posting-war with the very bigotted Rolduffff on this video now... it's disrespectful to Harvey's memory. RIP
EdNortonisMineLol 1 year ago
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@EdNortonisMineLol fuckingfaggot lololololzzzzzz
Roldulffff 1 year ago
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@EdNortonisMineLol how?? you stupid mother bitch
Roldulffff 1 year ago
Great speech, but you need to take down the volume on the music a little--it drowns him out toward the end.
jennined 1 year ago
Harvey Thank you for your Inspiration. We stayed in Texas And Fought. Now we have a Mayor and Hope for our Youngsters. Hugs, Angel
angeleliza41 1 year ago
Mahalo Harvey for giving us all HOPE!
mgolojuch 1 year ago
Georgeous.
loserbiotch2 1 year ago
A true American hero.
purple353 1 year ago 92
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@purple353 true american fucking faggot LOL
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@purple353 Yes he was, i'm a heterosexual male, and i agree with what he says.
sociallogie 1 year ago
When I need to feel inspired, I listen to Harvey Milk talk: what an amazing man, put on the Earth for an amazing purpose.
EdNortonisMineLol 1 year ago
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@EdNortonisMineLol hjows he a hero? hes a fucking faggot!!!! LOLOLLO a real hero fucks women
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@Roldulffff Well, aren't you a huge bigot. It's people like you - ignorant, prejudiced, black-hearted people - who make the world that little bit worse every day. And judging by your grip of grammar in the last message, you're an idiot too. If you manage to find any "women" to "fuck" I'll be very surprised...
EdNortonisMineLol 1 year ago
@EdNortonisMineLol fucking faggot lololol
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@Roldulffff Intelligent, unprejudiced and mature as always, I see...
EdNortonisMineLol 1 year ago
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@EdNortonisMineLol thats me you fucking faggot mother bitch lolololololol
Roldulffff 1 year ago
@Roldulffff now you've got your 2 seconds of fame and the reacions you wanted you can be a proud bigot
hah13 1 year ago
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@hah13 your moms a proud bigot lololololzzzz
Roldulffff 1 year ago
This is such a powerful speech. I just don't understand how people can hate homosexuals. It's like telling people that LOVE ITSELF is wrong.
Hope is never going to die. I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to breathe and not be judged by who I love but for who I AM. And God loves EVERYONE, just so you know.
Thanks Harvey, for shedding at least a little more hope into my life.
AmericaWuvsEngland 1 year ago 2
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@AmericaWuvsEngland fucking faggot! HHHAHAHAHAH
Roldulffff 1 year ago
Thanks Harvey.
mikemojave 1 year ago
I just put this on my Ipod cuz i love it so much :D
ImagineMarvelous 1 year ago
@ImagineMarvelous I just put it on my i-pod too :D
EdNortonisMineLol 1 year ago
WOW this is such a Powerfull speach it gives me chills every time I hear it this time it almost brought me to tears I am recentlly comeing back out from being scared back in the closet by my Conservative Christian family but the more I watch videos like this I am NOT Ashamed to be Gay anymore even in the Small Texas town I live in my mom and I were very disagreent when I first came out she loved Anita Bryant but before mom died she said she accepted me and was proud of her GAY son her GayCowboy
gaycowboy31 1 year ago
Great speech, I can't beleive in this day and age that so many people can be so intolerant and scared of gay love, im straight and ive been fine with it my whole life, really its not a big deal, sexual orientation isnt a choice. Get the fuck over it
JamaicanLambsWool 1 year ago
Those who attack homosexuals for loving their own, are the very people who will not read the statistics on who the real pedophiles are; who their real enemies are relative to the quality of life on the planet. They are those who preach hate and divisiveness among people whose only sin is wanting the right to love who they love. These haters identify themselves as true imbeciles who cannot think for themselves. That so many churches preach hate of homosexuality speaks loudly enough.
olga2415 1 year ago
Harvey Milk...Martin Luther King...two of the world's most inspirational people.
pauliesonne 1 year ago
I'm in tears... I've been in awe of Harvey Milk since I watched "Milk" with Sean Penn. What an inspiration: my mum is gay, and people like Harvey give her, myself and gay people and their friends and family around the word HOPE. That one, small word is worth everything
EdNortonisMineLol 1 year ago 65
there r gay perverts and peadophiles,there are straight perverts and peadophiles.there are gay actors and actresses,and there are straight ones,too.gay,straight,gay,straight?WtF,just be happy for opening your eyes yet another day.heaven or hell?I want to live today and have these so called "real HUMAN moments".jean815 it's the 21st century we live in and some biggots obviously live in the head-up-their-ass century.if we gonna quote the bible so much "in god's eyes we're all equal".be yourselves.
JanIsBoy5 1 year ago 4
very smart,truely a fighter..
"and how exactly do u teach homosexuality,is it like French?"(from the movie "Milk")
JanIsBoy5 1 year ago
Shivers....Every time....God i love him
ImagineMarvelous 1 year ago
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*does NOT take place
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
When Mr. Milk discusses electing gay people the only way in which that can be done is voting.This election the scariest I've ever seen considering the extreme views of tea party candidates which definitely includes a federal ban on marriage and rights in any form for gay citizens.We have power in our vote and while some including myself are disappointed with civil rights progress in the last two years,if we stay home Nov.2 the results will be a retreat of progress we have made...please vote
gilgobeach1 1 year ago
I've watched this several times and each time I tell myself I'm not gonna cry but I always do.
greenteabanana 1 year ago
And let's see how fast my second and latest comment on this thread gets spammed.
This mindset of gay activism doesn't exactly welcome DEBATE I've noticed...
This is ALWAYS sad.
It typically means people are insecure about their position and need to resort to manipulation.
Can a GLORIOUS cause be reached through SUBSTANDARD means?
Hmmm...Interesting question.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
brings me to tears every time ;*)
VintageGinger 1 year ago
The most ingenious part of this speech is when he says "THE USs".
staclei 1 year ago 2
I listen to this every night before I go to bed. I'm not gay, but a fighter for gay rights. When I looked at this tonight I felt so hopeful. Then I saw it said he had been assasinated in the box. I hate humanity.
krisandadamluvr 1 year ago
Like anyone looks up to politicians....
pismo10 1 year ago
WHy is there a text box on a speech with text???? How do I get rid of it???
dougtaiwan 1 year ago
@dougtaiwan the closed caption feature on YouTube allows the words to be translated to other languages; this is a setting that's turned in on your preferences- you can turn it off by going to Account> Playback Setup> Captions.
Causecast 1 year ago
Posting honor of the young adults whose choosen suicude feeling alone, bullied and feeling like suicide is the only option. This madness must stop. We must support teens/yound adults in there time of greatest need and support, We all need to be gentle, times are too rough, and teens in many ways needs our love and support,
billiescissorhands 1 year ago 3
This makes me cry every time.
This is so fucking honest and pure and built on the best of intentions to change the world.
While I am a cynic towards rhetoric and charisma, Harvey Milk makes me believe we can.
soccer123xox 1 year ago 4
"And suddenly, there are two new options." Wow. What an incredible person. Taken too soon by a bigot who couldn't cope with the idea of a gay man being more successful in politics that he was.
TheLockwor 1 year ago
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There is Hope through Jesus Christ, sexual lust is only a perverted desire, not hope.
timestandingstill 1 year ago
@timestandingstill fuck you snake handling jesus freak. go burn a koran you cousin fuckin', banjo pickin', toothless meth head.
robwilson420 1 year ago
@robwilson420 your argument point is what we like to call, "ad hominem."
Causecast 1 year ago
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Remarkable how propagandistic and screamy it sounds, like an advertisement campaign concocted by some not even too slick agent; the "bright new world" theme, that'll work. Oh, the "poor child narrative", always effective. Let's slip that in...Pfft
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious rofl
EdM021 1 year ago
@EdM021
Did u c my comment actually got spammed?
Equal rights equal rights equal rights and the GLOOOOOORIOUS fight against heteronormative oppression...
Fight the evildoers!
This discourse is just shallow, boring & propagandistic.
Is it really so great that kids are shipped all over the world like coffeebeans cos people MUST HAVE THE RIGHT to have one?
Sorry, I find these things insane.
Let's move beyond the sole dimension of LEGALISM & rights in favor of some actual SUBSTANCE...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Yes I did notice! Which means I had to look.
Excuse me, but the way thigs are run in this country, the way the legalism and rights are determined costs LGBT people of actual economical, physical and spiritual SUBSTANCE.
Bye
EdM021 1 year ago
@EdM021
What you are perhaps not seeing is that the exclusive focus on the dimension of legalism and rights obscures other issues.
If this entire adoption thing wasn't MADE to be such a massive deal anyway, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
Isn't it a fact that the only thing needs solving is gays should be able to live together if they wish, and formalize their partnership legally.
Why does society need to be INUNDATED with this for 150 years?
Quite frankly, I think the adoption obsession...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Go ask any Christian antigay activist and you'll find out what the problem is and why we have to be inundated for 150+ years. I'll even boil it into a nutshell for you! The right-wing Christians are so committed to their doctrine of antihomosexuality that they've totally forgotten that their God is no respecter of persons. They are also wilfully ignorant of the consensus of medical, psychological and biological sciences concerning homosexuality.
EdM021 1 year ago
@EdM021
If you think you're gonna get anywhere whining about bigots I think you are VERY wrong; you are not seeing you're being manipulated.
Scientific consensus about homosexuality? And what might that be pray tell?
Science doesn't even know what the cause is.
Perhaps you're referring to psychiatry? I hope not...
The outrageously psychotic criminal "science" of psychiatry unlisted it from its DSMIV manual in 73/74, following massive militant gay action, ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Science doesn't know the exact cause but they've ruled out choice and postnatal environmental influences. When you're talking about something as complex as human sexuality you gotta look at many many causes. Some of these searches lead to blind alleys.
And the massive militanty gay action was justified! There was a study done by Dr Evelyn Hooker in 1958 that showed gays didn't suffer any more from *OTHER* official psychological disorders than heteros.
EdM021 1 year ago
@EdM021
Science doesn't know the exact cause but they've ruled out choice and postnatal environmental influences.
Yeah it doesn't.
It has suited homosexual activism to present homosexuality as "inborn" for a variety of reasons, one being that if you are "born that way", then "it's not your fault". Meaning there were advantages to this narrative in STRATEGIC TERMS.
Most gays have mindlessly taken over this BASELESS CLAIM, because they are not aware of having made a CONSCIOUS CHOICE.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@EdM021
And they're right: they didn't CHOOSE.
Following this logic you could equally say you were a born anglophone: who remembers having learned english?
Gays would do well to focus on this kind of issues, rather than blindly trust authority and science. Why are people gay? Nobody knows. Yet we are all "EQUAL". Just not good enough.
Fryer's speech was a mediatic farce.
You are fighting against "injustice" but you're being manipulated. I'm trying to understand gays and society.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious You are just willfully ignorant to the point I can't argue with you anymore! It's like talking to a brick wall. There are lots of reasons why science is looking into biology for what causes some to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, intersex and others are born hetero. Ask any scientist if it's due to pressure from gays and he'll tell you with conviction, "No." Get educated.
EdM021 1 year ago 2
@EdM021
Who the hell said "it's due to pressure from gays" ?
I am NOT suggesting people are being brainwashed into homosexuality AT ALL.
The problem here is mainly that YOU see everything through the spectrum of gay militancy.
I was saying 2 things:
-gays says homosexuality is INBORN, which I don't believe at all, and for which no evidence has been presented; science DOESN'T know.
-then, when I'm referring to the "gay identity", and especially the engineering of it,
I am of course
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@EdM021
...of course NOT suggesting homosexuality ITSELF is being engineered, but THE IDENTITY emerging from it.
The gay identity.
Do you think the Spartan Warrior Men, if we need to take an image, were like Chris Crocker or boy George?
The "gay man" is a cultural construct that's a work in progress.
Sexual preference and behaviour didn't use to have such a fullblow impact on social identity, and soon we can expect a married couple model with import kids from Taiwan. That's ENGINEERING.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@EdM021
Therefore, I was suggesting gays might have an interest in figuring out why they even are homosexual, what the gay identity is, what's really going on with this incessant revendicative societal debate, why science doesn't have a clue, etc.
Getting a PERSPECTIVE. That's what I was referring to mainly.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@EdM021
...action and the pleading of dr Fryer, an anonymous gay psychiatrist, addressing the APA, his face hidden in a halloween mask. He addressed the gathered psychiatrists from a stage with a ten minute speech. The speech was pathetic and the entire thing a farce.
This was one of the "huge gay victories".
It's got nothing to do with science of course.
Can't you see the homosexual issue is being whipped up ON PURPOSE?
THE PROBLEM is being created ON PURPOSE....
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious Gee ya think the reason he had his head in a bag was because the shrinks who couldn't handle other people's sexuality other than their own would have been drummed out of the APA???
EdM021 1 year ago
@EdM021
"Gee ya think the reason he had his head in a bag was because..."
No, I think the entire thing was a COMPLETE STAGED FARCE and that it had already been decided homosexuality was to be unlisted from the DSMIV manual.
If you understand anything about society, you'll immediately realize that the APA does NOT base it's decisions on 10 minute melodramatic piffle from a Halloweenbagged Mr Anonymous.
STAGED man. The entire thing was STAGED. Like Stonewall btw.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious --- yeaah.. I think you've got it! Problem, reaction, solution Hegelian(sp?) stylee.
I bet the votes were rigged to deliberately create hysteria, ready for the next nefarious stage of the dastardly NWO.
Why even bother to rescind otherwise as nobody cared.
IdaSputum 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
I was wondering if you're being sarcastic but one glance at your channel sufficed:
Pat Condell. Eew! I suppose you consider that "caustic wit"? What a toxic minded self-important puffbal the idiot is...
I fail to see how your post relates to mine, what votes were rigged, what needs rescinding?
Why immediately bring the NWO into this, when what was at issue was essentially the engineering of a culturally based gay identity. Do you contend social engineering NOT take place?
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious - In California it was legal to marry the same sex, then this legal right was rescinded!
Therefore, the Govt must have known it would cause havoc to act in such a contrary controversial way.
Many 'Christians' are influenced by anti-NWO 'Christian' vids which state that gayness is being promoted by "Satan to undermine ALL THAT IS GOOD!"
Obviously that's total bollocks as marriage is a stabilising factor to a lot of people including gays.
I have idea why you are so hostile.
IdaSputum 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
hostile...
or rather irritated at the typical and ubiquitous strategy I often encounter, that consists of attempting to disqualify a point through equating it with a larger body of "thought" that is consequently ridiculed.
Thus perfectly valid substantive comments about homosexuality and its treatment in the public sphere tend to be invalidated with the accusation of:
-being a product of a deluded fundamentalist christian, or
-being a product of a tinfoil hat -wearing...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious - oh dear. You have every right to examine all points, whether out of context or in a larger context as you wish. I've thought about the concept of Govts' social engineering myself.
But eventually I return to the simple fact that all people are equal and deserve the same rights.
It's anti-Christian to deny them equal treatment, and for the non-religious it's INhumane to treat gays as different.
It's positive for society and the economy for gays to get married.
IdaSputum 1 year ago 2
@IdaSputum
"But eventually I return to the simple fact that all people are equal and deserve the same rights."
And here is where you -and society- get simplistic and reductive. Equal rights...
Do you realize this notion IMPLIES these rights are GRANTED, meaning in fighting for rights WE ALREADY HAVE we're merely acknowledging and feeding the judicial system, at the cost of ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
Tell me: why should two guys getting together have the RIGHT to adopt some child...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
...child from a third world country.
Why is that child adoptable in the first place?
Why indeed do kids get shipped all over the world like coffee beans?
Don't you find this is rather BIZARRE?
I do.
Screaming to be equal to straights seems pretty mindless to me. Marriage? Shouldn't we consider WHAT THIS INSTITUTION ACTUALLY IS before screaming it's a RIGHT?
Good for the economy? Do you understand why the financial system has collapsed and why millions of americans...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
...have lost their home?
This entire issue would have been solved AGES ago if the adoption thing was dropped and gays settled for a recognized partnership, meaning the finances etc are secure.
There is no reason WHATSOEVER to discuss rights and oppression for 150 years!
Anyway, I don't understand why you brought up the NWO and how you see it relating to/controlling gay issues.
Gays are being sucked into a societal agenda. I suggest looking from a much, but really...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
...really MUCH broader perspective.
A first priority for gays would be in my opinion to analyze the AIDS -fiasco.
Yes, I know, AIDS has become a morbid death-cult, a religion and we're not supposed to question its official dogmata.
However, it is simply a fact of life that gays got SUPERTOXIC poisons in doses that are VERY ALARMING starting 1987.
To me it's pretty obvious that a massive and ongoing crime is being committed here. I suggest gays look at the larger picture...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious - not really sure what you are saying here.I will have to go out now & consider it. I think I've been quite clear, & yes I realise the economy crash was engineered to lead us to one world bank. Aids was also engineered as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure what you mean about 'toxic dose''.
Surely the stability of gay marriages will be helpful in all ways. As far as the economy goes, gays will have to pay for lawyers to divorce them or not, etc. just like anyone
IdaSputum 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
...wearing NWO-obsessed conspiracy-theorists.
It now seems I have misinterpreted your post. Your mention of "hysteria", "dastardly" and "nefarious NWO" struck me as an attempt at ridicule, and so you clarify it was not. All the better & I apologize for being snappy.
However, if you are in fact serious, I suggest first of all that using such superlatives tends to distract from the issue, and may contribute, in a context where the NWO already is subject to ...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
...subject to profound unbelief and ridicule by the masses, to further invalidating this very idea of NWO, manipulation, deception and social engineering.
Anyway, seems we agree that the gay issue is being manipulated and instrumentalized. It's CONSTANTLY being whipped up in the public arena.
The problem with "marriage" and "rights" is that it's a monolithic discourse, bringing gays under the RULE OF LAW, and the liberational process ITSELF is actually MOLDING the gay...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@IdaSputum
...gay identity.
We're assisting at the engineering of a CULTURAL MODEL: the gay couple, IDENTICAL in all senses to the straight couple, ideally equipped with a Vietnamese or Malgach import child, living in a rosy suburb like a cheesy unreal couple out of some absurd 50s commercial.
This vision of the gay man in society is in my opinion COMPLETELY DELUDED,
& this LEGAL struggle for "rights" is actually a con, creating a very bizarre, controlled new type of social homosexuality.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
@suddenlyitsobvious - that's quite a vision! Tastes differing the way they do, I doubt everyone will fit in with it.
Ultimately, evolution is great. Recognition of all members of society would create a lot more happiness.
The only way you'd notice gay marriage is that there'd be less tortured teens & disenfranchised people.
A healthier society, who can concentrate on other issues instead of pleading for basic respect, eg. on the death of partner, to be legally be seen as next of kin.
IdaSputum 1 year ago 2