Is creation "science" really science?, Part II

[pandorachild]

I find it annoying that creationists LIE so much yet they want me to take there word that god is real, and the only one.

[Craighill9]

Of course you people choose a devout atheist as your key spokesperson. I wonder why? Atheism is a poor philosophy that goes contrary to science. Science is studying what is observed, and the observed evidence indicates that minds are the only things that can create. To believe that the universe is not created goes contrary to what is observed. Whether their is a god or not is irrefutable; your decision is to determine to yourself who that god is.

[Man4Truth88]

@Craighill9 i dont think you have been paying attention in science class...

[pandorachild]

@Craighill9 Wow so many errors in one paragraph. First I dont think genie is an atheist. Atheism isnt a theology that contradicts science, that was just a blatant LIE. You where kind of correct about "that minds are the only things that can create" but you and you kin have never proved that the universe was created, Unless you have observed this it is just an assumption on your part. Finally I will say what all atheists think, PROVE THERE IS A GOD, im tired of listening to nut cases who know 0.

[toelesshoe]

If I had god in a test tube, I would place it in a centrifuge, and seperate fact from fantasy

[Craighill9]

Evolution as a mechanism of apes to humans cannot be tested either, so no matter how you look at it, evolutionism is just as much a philosophy as is creationism. Therefore the problem lies in the fact that evolutionists have a monopoly on the philosophical argument and don't allow other arguments in. If the creation question were addressed then the evolution philosophy would be found very lacking and unsuitable for science.

[qw2b]

Just as well as we can't test if gravity existed 200 years ago, but we can look at the present day evidence and say with great deal of certainty that "yes, it's probably did".

Evolution is just 'rewinding' the tape so to speak, using what can be observed today.

[Craighill9]

The physical evidence for gravity is substantial, but the physical evidence for apes to human evolution is imaginary.

[Leones44]

@Craighill9 What is some of the evidence for gravity that you call substantial? And I'm gotta a hunch but I'm guessing you don't really know very much about evolution (although I'm sure you swear you do). Evolution is both a fact and a theory. Evolution has been observed. Evolution from apes to humans also has substantial evidence to support it.

[Craighill9]

@Leones44spare me you ignorance and go bark up someone else's tree. You spout word upon word but you cannot explain knowledge without a mind. You simply must determine for yourself whose mind created all things. There is zero evidence that life from non-life is possible.....zero....none...zi­lch. You lose I win.

[Leones44]

@Craighill9 I guess you want me to spare you my facts, logic, and reason as well as most fundies tend to be allergic to such things. "There is zero evidence that life from non-life is possible.....zero....none...zi­­lch", when you say stuff like that you make it blatantly obvious you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!! Evolution has nothing to do with how life originated it discusses how life has changed over time. What you are referring to is abiogenesis which is a separate theory from evo

[Leones44]

@Craighill9 I don't understand why people who have never studied science nor evolution, who know so little about it, speak out against it vehemently. A word to the wise, if you're going to go around commenting on something at least have a clue. Its makes you look ridiculous when you comment on stuff you clearly don't understand. I'm sorry to break it to you but the only thing you won was the science class dunce of the year award. You fail!

[Leones44]

@Craighill9 Do you even know what the definition of science is? From your comments its clear you don't.

[Craighill9]

@Leones44 Science, simply means "knowledge", and its obvious that you and Ugenie Scott are the type of people who wish to allow only knowledge that fits their atheistic and immoral agenda to pass through the gates of the "scientific" world.

[Leones44]

@Craighill9 Lol, so you just proved my point, you have absolutely no idea what the definition of science is and nor an idea ofwhat defines a scientific theory. Science is a tool we use to help us understand the universe and to provide NATURAL explainations for observed phenomema. The key word being natural. God as well as fairies, unicorns, and flying sphaghetti monsters are all supernatural ideas or concepts and therefore lie outside the realm of science. U don't know what you're talking about.

[Leones44]

@Craighill9 Science is neutral when it comes to religion or God. Science does not adress morality. Science never says what one should or shouldn't do. Science's omission of morality is no more a knock against it than mathematics omission of morality. Religon and people's world views and personal beliefs guide morality not science (or mathematics for that matter). Creationism is religion and that's why it doesn't meet the definition of science and does not belong in science classrooms.

[Craighill9]

Eugenie Scott has a perverted view of reality.

[toelesshoe]

@Craighill9 And you don't have any idea of reality

[opaldragon75]

Nice to know there are still trolls out there. BTW love the videos!

[rollsthepaul]

Science is not even science. We live in deceptions, inside deceptions, inside deceptions. If you were taught it then you believe bullshit.

[ribbonwing]

lol, wut?

[rollsthepaul]

We live in a matrix, yes an illusion fabricated to confuse and control. The matrix is almost perfect, except for a few who have cracked it. We depend on our 5 senses to interface with this false world and our captors play us like a violin.We are forced to reincarnate. Our captors feed on our negative energy, which they cannot produce themselves. That is why there is so much promotion of fear, anger, guilt, jealousy, division by religion, greed, war, starvation, physical and emotional suffering.

[opaldragon75]

Then why are you still here? break out then. I guess I am then one of those who is now lost to it then. Well Science is just the explorations & understanding of the world we live in, real or not. So until I find a door out, I want to understand its properties and how it work. So bugger off and find a way out while the rest of us play with the reallity we are stuck with.

[acronus]

'm confused by your statement. Science refers to any systematic knowledge-base or prescriptive practice that is capable of resulting in a prediction or predictable type of outcome.

Example: If I mix Chlorine and Sodium together, the result will be heat and NaCl (salt) as a byproduct every single time. I can arrive at the same result two ways, first by physically mixing the two elements, second by performing molecular physics (mathematically).

Science in that aspect is not "bullshit".

[jojoinhere]

ya,absolutely!throw your computer away.

[opaldragon75]

the only thing that scares me is the fact that some ID'ist is going to quote mine this video at some point.

So lobby your local goverment to banned the destructive & toxic practice of open pit strip-quote mining! Work together for a intellectual greener future.

[pandorachild]

@opaldragon75 hahaha thats awesome!

[EntinludeX]

New material would be delightful

[10secstomeltdown]

Why are the same vids being posted over and over?

[NatCen4ScienceEd]

Don't worry...not trying to drive you crazy. There were some errors in the captioning on a couple of videos, so I pulled them, made the changes, and reposted them. Hence the "repeats".

[stephenetienne]

Why can't this whole interview be posted?

[Sanngot]

I'd like it if the videos were longer please. Like maybe 10 minutes? You have no idea how much more I would like these videos if you did that.

[carrierexchange]

is this the 5th post of the same stuff? one more and i unsubscribe.

[Zed1967]

There is only one way to debate a creationist/creation scientist/advocate of ID and that is to turn to them and say.

''YOU ARE AN IDIOT''

Then you walk away because that is ALL that needs to be said to them by way of a debate, then you go talk to some rational educated people and discuss nice secular topics preferably in a pub :)

[OnTheFritz602]

Pubs are great places to discuss nice secular topics! :)