Pentagon Asks for 30,000lb Bomb for Iran

[NikoBoulikas]

Fucking congress! Sure, you can print your own money to make bombs, just blow the whole damn planet up... Would that make everyone happy?

Tax-payers wage their own extinction. We have been tricked.

[MartianStories]

@NikoBoulikas It would make the politicians happy. Living out their lives in an ornate, palatial bunker, the constituents all long gone, they'll never have to worry about re-election ever ever again.

They call that: "Retirement."

[Hatinonthehaters]

more dick measuring contests... why you think all bombs are shaped like dicks?

[aloisgault]

a 30 kiloton weapon, standard grade explosive, hardened for penetration...........

[SvenTviking]

Grandslam type thing? They built an enlarged grandslam for the B36.

[NWguy83]

Google search MOP pictures. They have dropped it from a B-52, and the sucker is huge.

[UniteProductions1]

bring it on bitch with glasses

[UniteProductions1]

bring it on bitch with glasses

[scrundies]

oh my god this place is full of looneys

[stalingrenhatten]

well here comes WWIII Started over bullshit this time.

[MrJapaneseboy1111]

crazy muslims with atomic wepon !

god help us all.

[edwong3]

To use that bomb they would have to penetrate deep into Iranian air space, and I don't see that happening. Imagine the plane carrying it hit by either an S-200 or a Shahin SAM, or even perhaps an AIM-54 Phoenix launched by an IRIAF F-14 Tomcat. That would be a huge explosion in the sky!

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 s-200?? .... hmm no biggy we would just redo what isreal did with syria's defense system.. maybe you should read up on that to.

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 What Syrian air defense? Some old SA-2s? Don't believe the Israeli propaganda that Syria had some "advanced" air defense system that they were able to "defeat", because they didn't exist. It is just now recently that Russia, and Syria are closing a deal to get the Pansir S1, the Buk M1, and "maybe" the S-300. Think again. If Israel or the US thought that without a doubt that they could overwhelm the Iranian air defenses, they would have attacked years ago.

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 attacked years ago? my friend its only beginning... we tested and destroyed the iranian navy with little effort when operation praying mantis begun.. look around . do you think we have our forces in the middle east for no reason...we have you surrounded .. our allies want you dead... the time is coming to an end

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 Destroyed the Iranian Navy?  They (Iran) lost an oil plateform, one frigate (The Sahand), damaged another frigate, The Saband, lost one F-4 Phantom jet, and three small attack boats. It took two US navy surface strike groups, and the intervention of the Marines to inflict this so called "destruction" of the Iranian navy. Remember that Iran had it's hands full fighting Saddam's forces who was backed by several Western nations while the Iranians had nobody to count on. (Con't)

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 they had been fighting them for 8 years what happened to the so called power iran had?? i wonder why iran had no1 back them up?? hmm compared those losses to the american navy loss.. guess we showed navy superiority.. its to bad we still did it with very lil effort maybe this time we can use our whole force...

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 They fought for 8 years against a western backed regime that received money, weapons, intelligence, and even WMD! If Iraq hadn't had that kind of backing, I doubt the war would have lasted 8 weeks. You can show naval "superiority" when you outnumber your adversary by 10 to 1, 15 to 1 maybe? Big frigging deal!

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 (Con't) So I wouldn't be too proud of this outcome. They West claims that Operation Praying Mantis "forced" Iran to declare a cease fire with Iraq. The reality was that Iraq was getting it's ass handed back to them inspite of all the support the US gave them, and direct military intervention like OPM. It was an embarrassment to Washington. Today, the US will be facing a totally different Iran if war broke out, and it seems the top brass at the Pentagon are not anxious to start it.

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 and yet the iranian navy didnt do shit to american navy... what they did to a warship?? 1 warship really?? we forced them to ceasefire... you think a war with iran would be like iran-iraqi war?? it would be the same except american forces this time.. hope you enjoy fighting an actually super power... btw dnt even think china or russia will back you up sorry.. their intrests or with western powers.

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 Hey, I don't think you have credible reading comprehension skills to come to the conclusion that I am not an Iranian. But then again I'm not surprise considering the source. An ignorant fool who thinks a war against Iran is going to be some video game. I read the other day that NATO lost another base in southern Afghanistan to the Taliban. And these are people who don't have a real army, and carry AK-47s, and RPGs. And the American gov. wants to fight IRAN???!!! Good luck!!!!

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 you know what your fucking right.. guerilla warfare is easy! it will be a conventional war with iran . and guess what we will do what we did with shock and awe. our navy will repeat praying mantis.... your speed boats will be useless... so now i think this is a video game... your an idiot..

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 "Shock and awe" will not work against Iran stupid! You must have an adversary without POINT DEFENSE SYSTEMS in place which was the case with Iraq, but not in Iran. In the opening of a conflict, the US Navy won't be facing speed boats. They'll be facing SSN-4, SSN-26, supersonic Sunburn anti ship weapons, and two new UAVs which have strike capabilities against land, and sea targets. Operation Praying Mantis? It'll be more like "Operation Pray for Our Men, and Women". You're an idiot!

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 you know what your fucking right no military aircraft has any anti missile defense and to top it off i guess we wont be using our emp technology.. your iran country is so far behind in technology you ever hear about the f-35 dumbass ,, and just another word of information for you just because some new missile defense is out doesnt mean its accuracy is top... what you think they are going to have them lined up on their border?? they barely have uav technology?? lol

[edwong3]

@oakcliff621 If you're such a "military expert" (LOL!!!), then get on the freaking phone, and call up Robert Gates, and General Petraeus and show them your "strategy" on how you plan to "defeat" Iran. I'd pay to hear their response to you! LOL!!! Also, stop talking about weapon systems that either don't exist, or are not even deployed in the US arsenal. EMP? Have you heard about Faraday Cages? F-35? $85 billions dollars, and not even close to ready! Kid, you're pathetic, but entertaining! LOL!!!

[oakcliff621]

@edwong3 you pretty much dont know alot about american airforce do you. but your right s-400 success rate it 100% and so is its accuracy.. also they can get by the aircraft defense.. your so right.. your logic is stupid.. and im sure you know aircraft is acquired over a period of time..its been in development for some time now you simply dont acquire a airforce out of nowhere. and i guess a "kid" can talk more sense then old men.. you old people never change.. o wel

[IAmOpenMinded]

@oakcliff621 Dude get some life experience under your belt, and learn that things are not as simple as they seem. You oversimplify things without even considering the short, mid, and long term implications of starting another war in the Middle East. You're oblivious to the consequences that will affect entire nations, all the way down to individual people. If you only knew what a family goes through when a loved one died in some foreign land for the wrong reasons, then you'd understand. Bye.

[oakcliff621]

@IAmOpenMinded there is no draft fool... people volunteer for a reason.. if that loved one died dont make them die for nothing by taking the shit on the govt or country they died for.. i guess your extensive life experiences have taught you nothing

[IAmOpenMinded]

@oakcliff621 I know there is no draft! You think I'm stupid? But draft or no draft, I guess then it's alright to you for a country to send their young men, and women to die for a LIE! DON'T DIE FOR A LIE! Yes, that's quite a slogan for these times! During the Vietnam era, it was "HELL NO...WE WON'T GO!", but you were probably not even around then. I think we've taken too much space on this comment section so if you don't mind, I am bowing out gracefully. Enjoy the loneliness.

[oakcliff621]

@IAmOpenMinded your stupid... please mature. cya have a nice day

[IAmOpenMinded]

@oakcliff621 Thanks for the advice but you are the least qualified to give it. Just look at when this video was posted. Back in 2007, and no 30,000 lb. bomb has been dropped in Iran, and won't be! There is a reason for that, but you're too stupid to understand that. So take your own advice, and grow up, if that's possible for you!

[oakcliff621]

@IAmOpenMinded there is a reason for everything. be careful what you take for granted though. you think this will all end diplomatically?? sanctions may not stop iran from becoming nuclear.. but if they do use a nuclear bomb on israel do you really think any1 will stand up for iran?? LOL you must be an idiot if you do

[eyeisyou]

@IAmOpenMinded your name is completely opposite to your posts, thats funny!!

[IAmOpenMinded]

@eyeisyou Really? What irony! If anything, my user name is very appropriate because I don't eat the BS and propaganda the controlled media spits out at us. And if you believe that the USAF is just going to waltz into Iran to drop a 30,000 lb., that's really funny!

[eyeisyou]

@IAmOpenMinded The last time the US flew into Iran didn't end so good. but maybe they would give the bomb to an airforce that is willing and very much able to use it...

everyone can hear the things wacko ahmedinijad says, that dude doesn't need his paws on a nuke.

[101andrewj]

does anybody know if the b2 bomber can be equiped to carry a MOAB

[kingofdecatur1]

for all of u anti american cry babies living here u would be speaking another language if the us were not as powerful why don't u punks go put on the uniform of a us marine or army go over seas see what people really think of u in another country maybe then u would'nt be so quick to bash ur own country. oh by the way before one of u internet gangstas say something i am a US MARINE.

[azmovement]

the zionists can have nukes but iran cant total b.s the zionists helped in 9/11 but u.s invades afganistan that had nothing to do with it mossad and the c.i.a did 911 not some fucks in a cave

[fimatmax]

bomb america someone please

[MICKYBOY200799]

and if some of you guys don't like my comments that is fine, but i only write the thruth, and the truth is hard to accept by some people because they rather what makes them happy or rather turn the blind eye, but the bottom line is :no US president have ever won an ellection without the help of zionist lobbyist

[MICKYBOY200799]

what is it with american people ,when you mention that USA is controlled by zionist lobbyist they get all upset and defensive, it is a fact, everyone knows it, the lobbyist are doing a fantastic job at moving money from USA to support the welfare system in israel (excactly $140billion since ww2) while the homeless and the poor unfortunate americans are going thru rough time.

[mickyboy200768]

it is the zionist jews and there lobbyist that control american politician and american people, look at this facts, usa most powerfull contry in the world 35millions people are homeless, 32million plp on food stamps the economies is in shit, people loosing there jobs,there homes there families and yet the zionist controlled goverments are pushing to start another war to bankrup the american people

[ellhow]

But you're from Ireland. The Irish economy is expected to go into depression with a massive contraction of 14% by 2010!!! The US is not expected to have a depression or anything like that kind of economic carnage.

[smuck06]

The government might be fucking over the people but scapegoating a religion is going to get you nowhere.

[Chronobeanz]

Zionism isn't a religion, its a political view.

[saloge]

88million - 50% goes to politician corruptor itself....

[smuck06]

Says who?

[lon9i9]

Last time I heard they were considering a medium tactical nuclear weapon that can be detonated underground.

[Arjanm18]

dont play whit the fire ...... you will burn

USA ..... not strong

remeber that

[Autoengineer2008]

I seem to recall Saddam Hussein saying something like that a few years back. Iranians remember that guy. He's the one that gave the Iranian military "machine" a beating back in the 80's.

[edwong3]

You're very misinformed. With all the support Saddam's military received, they failed to conquer Iran. And today, Iran's military, and infrastructure is many, many times stronger.

[siroos008]

the problem is not iran, its all made up for an attack on russia

[rafaele201]

Thank you, swordfishmk69,STUPIDITY LIVES.DESTROY IRANS NUCLEAR PROGRAM BEFORE THESE IDIOTS GET THE BOMB. YOU GUYS JUST WROTE A CHECK UR BUTTS CAN'T CASH.

[marcjamesbush]

maybe you're right, but not forgetting that other countries have far worse weaponry still in developement, and stockpiled. The so called "Peacekeeper" was only recently de-commisioned, this had 10 warheads - each around 10 times that of the "little-boy" bomb dropped on hiroshima towards the end of the 2nd world war,

[marcjamesbush]

now I'm not saying i don't want peace, I do. but how on earth are we likely to have this when other nations are falttened just for looking at developing weaponry and america alone has enough to destroy the planet several times over?

not blaming america soley, britain, russia, elsewhere in europe the list goes on. It only seems a world-problem if america has a grudge against them!!!

there is no argument for america to put all weaponry beyond use, is there!!!

[HudsonRand]

Thank you, swordfishmk69, However, I can prosecute only one imperial army at a time. It is important to remember that all war is a class war fought by the poor against the poor and paid for by the poor to benefit the wealthy ruling class.

I am well aware of the wishes of the ruling bloodlines.

[HudsonRand]

narfer121, you seem to have a clue. But here you are wasting your breath on these dirt stupid fuckers. The Pentagon is an industry with more than a $600 billion annual budget. It's a criminal racket that is here asking for more money. And the average USAnian is just too stupid to get it. Look at dazeman1's comment. This is not the exception, it's the rule.

[sowrdfishmk69]

you speak about military power of the usa? remember that in the operation desert storm almost half of world were sending troops to help the usa to defeat iraq.while iran during the war with siddam did the same with no help of other countries,you think you can treat with iran like iraq?so far so wrong.

do you like to be killed for bush?to get more oil and money and power?do you want to sacrifice your self for oil companies?for bankers to gain more money?the new world order?

[marcjamesbush]

I agree with you "sowrdfishmk69"

but on the other hand, if america invades everyone it gets a grudge with, we'd all be one (happy) nation, - the world united.

- wouldn't that be nice.

of course a large proportion of the world would be slaughtered, but hey, these governments will do anything for "peace" won't they.

[narfer121]

we need more true believers in the constitution.

The Nazi's who run the banks in the world have "leased" the powers of our politicians. "We the people of the United States of America" is a phrase not included in their contract. I am sick of it, the time to stand is now!!! The US gov. is positioned to invade Iran at any time Hitler says go. If this happened it will be WW3..... I believe it is already too late. Learn the constitution,

understand your right to Arms, the time is at hand.

[theabomation]

attacking Iran will cuse WW3

[marcjamesbush]

unless of course they find, like in iraq, that there actually are no weaponry, and they've confused "nuclear power" with "nuclear bomb" hey they are quite similar.

[cinemaarts]

Beacuse of Bush & Cheney's fucked up policies I don't think we have any other option now because it looks to me like the Islamists already have the USA in their nuclear sights after Iraq, so why not take out part of the threat now? It's already to late to put the genie back in the bottle!

[majormayhem1]

We were always in their sights moron, thats why they attacked the west repeatedly for the past 100 years, they hate what we stand for, they attacked us and we did something about it, I can guarantee you Iran will not get a nuke we will obliterate them and their fucked up culture, Iran's military is shit so its not going to be WWIII more like the opening hours of the 1st Iraq war.

[grenadegoo]

america is winning 15 of 18 bench marks were met violence n iraq is down 40% afghanistan is the talibans last run b4 certain death and american victory the only way america can lose is barrack obama

[ehunter2]

Lets see 30 years of Iranian undeclared war against the USA and now the USA fights back and its the "aggressor"?

[ehunter2]

Yeah the 30,000 lb Ahmadinejad Anal Penetrator in sexy pink.

[masterj345]

fuck yea, bomb iran and lets 'wipe THEm off the map'

[itCameFromEarth]

wtf pentagon! Why don't we already have 30,000 pound bombs? plus it's 2008 all of our stealth bombers should be drones by now. WTF are you doing with my tax money cock-suckers??!!!

[aces2in]

ya i know

you have bombs, so you think you are gods, you created the world and have the power to defeat god and make him your prisoner. hehehe

you remember when god spins storms and twisters how your ass turns pink, god uses just air to uproot your homes. and he will soon wipe your civilization, and america will become a part of history

[itCameFromEarth]

That's the other thing that pisses me off about the government. Tessla invented a machine capable of increasing ionization in the atmosphere. Increased ionization causes electrons to become negatively charged which readily combine hydrogen and oxygen to produce water molecules. That was in eighteen hundreds... we should have weather control machines by now. I'm looking at you CIA. Hurry up and build 'em you lazy bastards! I don't pay you to sit around and wire tap phone sex hotlines.

[exodyssey]

y not use it in iraq? we hate that too!

[Magical24]

thats right you stupid americans keep makeing biger bombs so that your own goverment can sale it to terrorist so that they can kill more of your own inoccent 21-23 year old army boys who wanted some adventure in their life... way to go dumbasses

[dadecountyhustler305]

dude don't even start acting like your winning this war.

[JuggaloTheRolla]

if you beleive what you said, your are the most ignorant fuck ever.

and your probably just pissed off because we killed your daddy in the Gulf War

[Magical24]

yea cuz its a good thing to kill someones daddy spoken like a tru american idiot face it buddy america is the new nazi nation stirring up shit all over the world, invading countries forcing ppl to live the american way, soon america will piss off the wrong countries and then ww3 cuz of dumbass americans like u that actually are in power

[JuggaloTheRolla]

Well wtf do you espect? do you want us to cater your needs and wipe romania's ass? and say we werent in power, and some other current god foresaken country was. I gauruntee you nothing would get better you decroaded peice of shit. Fucking 14 year old starting shit arren't you?

[majormayhem1]

your dumb, we stir shit up and Iran doesn't, russia doesn't, north korea, Chavez, cuba they don't do it either. WE didn't invade anyone we liberate Iraq from a tyrranical dictaor. Who are we going to piss off thats going to start WWIII, cuz thats a joke, we have enough military power to rival that of every other country combined in the wolrd by 4-fold. We are their to do whats right, but the U.N is too pussy to do anything about it and the people are to ignorant to realize the situation at hand.

[marcjamesbush]

just to quote you.

" we have enough military power to rival that of every other country combined in the wolrd by 4-fold."

and you expect other countries to disarm.

disarm - they'd be slaughtered, at least this way some of them will survive,

america is becoming simply a butcher of other nations, that is why they are scrutinised, and say that iraq was liberated, that's a joke, if it was why are more troops being sent in. the dictator is gone, and yet america remains. think about it.

[mjp102]

@majormayhem1 - LoL America has a big defense budget sure but it doesn't have the power to rival every other nation in the world combined... A combination of say China and Russia could take America easily. Standing army size of America is 3,000,000 including reserve troops, China has 4,800,000 troops including reserves, Russian has 3,400,000 troops including reserves.

[oldjoe5]

What will the US do when Israel orders us to attack ourselves?

[jassi4010709]

im saying this, these fake "terrorists" are seen as the enemy, but when the N.W.O kicks in,these will be the only people to survive outside it.

[IdunCareLesSn00b]

Iran is no threat to anyone neither was Iraq.States like Iran are sought after due to being completely defiant against the NWO.

[101andrewj]

@IdunCareLesSn00b iran is a threat.... if USA just sat back and let iran become a nuclear power... it would only be a matter of time until they nuked israel in the name of the koran... then israel would nuke them back... and then u would have nukes flying all over the middle east... wer there happens to be a half million US millitary... so they would have to join.... and everything would be completly fucked.... so yeah no threat what so ever

[Sarge116thOIF]

@IdunCareLesSn00b IDIOT!!

[jb0433628]

@IdunCareLesSn00b

And defending oppressed people like the palestinians. That's why US want to destroy them.

Iran were also in the first one to say that 9/11 was an inside job, which is evident today.

[trufreedom87]

Why is it they are the bad guy,but we are the ones ready to drop a 30,000lb bomb on them.Let me guess they attacked us.Wake-up sheeple this is war propaganda can't you see how hard they have been trying to make Iran the bad guy,remind you of Iraq yet.Today a study came out that the administration lied 935 time leading up to the war in Iraq.

[korosh1kabir]

THANK YOU

It is not the iranian who want to bomb USA, US want to bomb iran,

[rivatnt264]

It truly is a matter of global security and people refuse to believe it because the US govt says so. It's sad but there are many many many americans who dont listen to the propaghanda of other ocuntries. Wheather were brainwashed or not, you can think otherwise because this country was made to think for itself..

[Boscovius]

Let me get this straight. People refuse to believe that Iran is a threat because the current administration has no credibility? It's sad that americans don't listen to the propaganda of other countries, but it's OK to believe in the propaganda of our own Govt? Brainwashed or not? Are we? Aren't we? Is anybody really sure anymore? Wake up America. Take your country back. Pledge Alleigiance to the Constitution.

[michael2B]

♠ Google -- USS Liberty Incident ♠

[RICK28m]

lol. that a big A** BOMB...

[blair9123]

iran knows they can never defeat us..why is there president so simple minded...he reminds me of a little 6 year old kid trying to beat up his 30 year old dad.

[TheConquerMentality]

To unite Shi'ite Muslims wordwide and bring about their version of the Apocolypse. Enter Al Mahdi.

[mujaheed1]

:-) Well, making bomb (whatever the weight is) is easy for US. By the way, before getting that ready make sure that a second flight doesn't fly in the US sky with it's own powerful bombs! Make sure that the pilot drops it in the right place :-) ...

[marcjamesbush]

iran's not trying to invade the US.

the US IS looking for any excuse to bomb iran,

get it the right way round in your head.

iran is threatened and will retaliate, but they are not the cause.

[blair9123]

what a bomb...

[badboypass]

Iran has got the crappiest Air force in the Middler East! Your gonna be bombed by the World's superpower. Don't you think you should buy some decent aircraft? SU-30, Mig 31s, J 10s or something meatier!

[expert1221]

Just Watch

watch?v=rhBfzhIjGAA

A Little Long but Not Boring.

[Moqawame]

firstly you yanks need to pull your heads out of your arses and have a good look around and listen because the world has had enough of your bullshit. I really hope america trys to attack Iran id love to see american planes falling out of the sky Iraq was a disappointment america talked it up like it was gona b the war of the century but Iraqs army/airforce was old and defunctional like george bush's brain. Iran is a completely different story.

[Dakota838]

I say build that motherfucker!

[rivatnt264]

You people are crazy if you think you can fuck with Americas Military.

[GDI109]

and you people are crazy if you think the US can go around do what ever it pleases without consequences.

[rivatnt264]

you don't get it. America doesnt care about consences. whats, 10,000 loses to 1.5 million? Irans govt preaces western hate and world understanding. Iran will fall due to non co-operation of world evolution, and public domination. Something America has already established. Hate it or love it. You still loose

[bigtrojanhorse]

learn to spell....

your empire is crumbling.

go to war with Iran and you'll see what will happen to the US and Israel. Your forces were all utilized in Iraq.....and you really think you can storm into Iran?? especially if Russia and China have a say??????

get off your imperial-hegemonic-self-center­ed high horse you f*cking yanks

we don't want you to police the world with your policy of intervention and cultural,economic, political expansionism

[rivatnt264]

There not much you can do. Russia and China wont have a say in it. They have spoken on the matter. And you wrong, all of our forces are not utilized in Iran. There all over the fucking world numb nuts. If America issues a draft then whos fucked? Dont forget it can. Also we probably wont use much ground forces in a war with Iran. Thats what this whole video is about

[bigtrojanhorse]

LOL

again, please learn to spell 'numb nuts'

and i'm glad you're all for a draft, i guess you'll be the first one flying over then dipshit.

and yes you're ground forces were mainly used in IRAQ hence talk of a draft you fucking idiot.....

and again if you think Russia and China are gonna let the US just bomb whoever in their back yard think again

wow......you're ignorance and arrogance pains me....... i hope America isn't full of people like you

[rivatnt264]

America is full of people u will n ever understand. America is soemthing you will never understand. America is not just a people, it is a sybiology. You can correct my grammer all you want, but your motiv doesnt move me, and it never will. For as long as I live in America and can thankfully call myself american it never will.

[bigtrojanhorse]

right...... cause you're all THAT brainwashed that you feel you must all follow like cattle otherwise you're considered 'unpatriotic' to your country, 'unfaithful' to your religion..... you're all soooo scared of this fearful thing that your government itself has perpetuated through the media. You truly are the epitome of nothing but a pawn. enjoy following your leaders into the abyss

[nater88dawg]

right on bigtrojan.

[HEYBUDD]

A LOT of Americans have their heads screwed on right and are against all this nation building crap. It is not american, christian, moral or even legal. Most people that believe like I do are out on the streets, trying to wake people up instead of being on here. The u.s. media has a lot of people brainwashed.

[bigtrojanhorse]

:) HEYBUDD sorry for generalizing and thank you for giving me hope in the American people in the quest for peace and harmony. Keep doing what you are doing in spreading the word and trying to wake people up..... you people are the only hope......and Ron Paul :p

[Dakota838]

We'll handle it, rest assure.

[AmericaOwnz]

rivat-let them think they can beat us, we don't want them to pussy out and cheat us of the satisfaction of giving them a humiliating defeat. Saddam gave America the finger and we broke his neck. Iraq took 8 years to beat Iran, the US beat Iraq in 8 weeks, using a fraction of our military capability. I'd like to see their arrogant and war-mongering mullahcracy destroyed. Hopefully we grind Saudi Arabia to a fine powder while we're at it.

[AmericaOwnz]

trojan-you're fooling yourself if you think Russia and China is going to back you guys up. They only look after their own interest and they won't risk a nuclear war with the US. When America attacks Iran, there won't be any ground invasion (save for special forces to depose of your regime). Its going massive air strikes on 2000 targets. Considering 85% of Iranians want democracy, they'll be privately thanking us to free them of their tyrannical rulers.

[bigtrojanhorse]

first of all i'm not on either side. i'm just against war of most natures, especially when you have no iron clad evidence of a threat (Iraq/Iran).

"Considering 85% of Iranians want democracy, they'll be privately thanking us to free them of their tyrannical rulers."

something like that was said about Iraq too, and that didn't exactly turn out as planned.

why is it that the blood of Iranian and Iraqi civilians are so much more devalued than that of the West?

[bigtrojanhorse]

I'm actually from the West by the way, and the life of innocent civilians is something that shouldn't be taken, no matter what race, religion, colour etc. etc.

the amount of civilians that have been killed in Iraq and selectively unreported is disturbing. and i have no reason not to believe it won't happen again. such is the state of your aggressive foreign policy

[AmericaOwnz]

Now that you realize that the US will beat Iran you went from being a belligerent war-hawk to a peace-activist crying about civilian deaths. Its that bi-polar tactic muslims use against their enemies.

I don't fall for that kind of bullshit and I hope our next president doesn't either (assuming Bush doesn't attack Iran). We'll have peace once we destroy Islam and anyone that defends it.

[rivatnt264]

I couldnt agree more. Also I couldnt help but think of the word "hate" when I think of a westerner who hates western evolution and policy. Clearly not a true American. If you don't like your government, then move away form it. Express your right as a human being to this world by doing just that. Stop fighting and complaining. There's nothing that you can do.

[bigtrojanhorse]

AmericaOwnz you do realise that both Islam and Christianity has its extremists, not to mention their incentive to wipe out the Islamic faith in accordance to help their "bretheren brothers" the Zionists right?

Rivatnt - its not really worth replying to your comment. The West can be considered more than just the US of A. Go to geography class

[nater88dawg]

AmericaOwnz, who do you think you are? the freedom that America is all about is jeopardized by people like you who get caught up in the nationalistic BULLSHIT of country v.s country, institution v.s institution, religion v.s religion, ect. I generally agree w/ bigtrojan...

Pledge Allegiance to the Constitution.

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you should use this video

watch?v=7LXlkfezIW4

type youtubeDOTcom in front.

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another great video, thanx