Forget 300, Lets save Cyrus The Great

[YamaKazoo]

Save it from what ??

[MediaWillRise]

@YamaKazoo From being destroyed!

Don't you see?

It's like literally on an open road!

One little grenade could make the whole thing collapse!

Great things like these needs to be saved, build walls around it, do whatever! As long as it doesn't fall!

[YamaKazoo]

@MediaWillRise "One little grenade" Wtf ? Where do think cyrus's tomb is ? Afghanistan ?

Its not under threat. It is very safe. And constantly maintained.

[MediaWillRise]

@YamaKazoo No it's in Iran, I don't think you have been paying attention to the news lately?

More dangerous to be in Iran than in Afghanistan ;)

[YamaKazoo]

@MediaWillRise "More dangerous to be in Iran than in Afghanistan" I dont think youve been watching the news lately. And if you have you've been watching propaganda.

[MediaWillRise]

@YamaKazoo Dude, seriously, it is.

There are loads of demonstrations going on, and the Basjis are acting like dogs.

[YamaKazoo]

@MediaWillRise How do you know ? Are you in Iran ?

[MediaWillRise]

@YamaKazoo Brother in Iran, but I am not.

I see them reparing, but still, a tomb of a great person as Cyrus shouldn't be as open for anyone as it is.

[YamaKazoo]

@MediaWillRise Why not ? Everyone should be able to see it if they want. Pasargad is a UNESCO World Heritage site, iran has signed up to this voluntarily, which means it is protected. Look at the highest rated comment from "donpogi1080" people actually believe this crock of lies. And you almost believed it too. This is pure lies and misinfomation. Its a disgrace that these people need to lie to the wider worls to state their (obviously worthless) case.

[YamaKazoo]

@YamaKazoo What do you see going on in the video ? Destruction or repair ?

[mishrik]

@fajams23 Racial Aryan is stupid, you dont have to do any genetic tests to know who is Aryan or not thats heights of stupidity. Cant u distinguish an Aryan from a Black Arab n African or a mongol??????? Some or mixed but Aryan is pronounced in looks!!!!

[chaghar]

fuck islam.

[Tristan129]

Hey what's the current situation of the tomb now? And what are those 130 sites

iiNDiTC did mention? Where they part of the Persepolis?

[ubuibi88]

the truth is cyrus the great was  king zulqarnain!

[lefas123456789]

i hope pesia exist on its own glory and also W/out islam not today

[Glory0that0is0Persia]

long live our great father, cyrus in our hearts, and preserve his legacy and his tomb!

[khashayar44]

Long Live Kouroshe Bozorg, THE FOUNDER OF THE MIGHTY PERSIAN EMPIRE.

[acr08807]

Bozo the clown was the founder of the mighty Persian empire?

[jmchs]

i've been to iran six times in my 17 years, everytime, i've insisted to go to shiraz to visit persepolis and pasargad, its beautiful and ridiculously stunning becasue of all the accuracy, look past the government if you don't like it, look past 300 and look past iran's neighboring countries. help save the culture and history of a 7000 year old dynasty. khoshgel tareen donya, donya e mah ast a quote from ferdosee, author of the shah nameh

[mashangian333]

drood-bar to zane iran ke sedaye to sedaye man ast.

[hunturkum]

koorosh khale khod yanı khahare mandana ro gahide bud akharsh ham az 1 zan be esme tomires shekast khord va mord

[alimaumo]

as cyrus is clearly in the quran as a devotee of god.mentioned as none other then zulqarnian(the two horned one or two kingdom one check the evidence its so obvious..long live kouroush.greatness is never forgoten.

[iiNDiTC]

plese save the site of perspolis...over 130 archaeological sites have been destroyed due to the dam being built, cyrus's tomb is not endangered by the dam for it is located far and high emters up, howeer the humidity is the main reason for deteriation of perspolis ancient ruins...already the government is doing fast sloppy excavations and i fear much of our ancient past is being distorted in politico religious manifestations by authorative positions with power....remeber they killed khomeni

[roodriver]

Even Mullah visit Pasrgad

[TheguardianofIran]

yeh so they can say they relate to the people not coz they love korosh like you and me do

[sawbonesadams]

We should turn Kimbo Slice loose on those fools. Save the tomb!

[persiandudeee]

As you can see teh Islamic repub doesnt even care about Irans culture and history, they only care about money and religion.

[pupsi42]

please all you people with money , knowledge, skills, connections, anything that you can do or give to save cyrus's grave please do it asap cyrus saved lots of people now we should save him even the jews we know you got money real persians dont hate you it's the fucking mulhas religious mother fuckers that hate everyone please lets come together again just like cyrus did it and save him please i beg you.

[donpogi1080]

there are a lot iranians you can contact, I have and I am not an Iranian. the guy from heroes has a youtube site here, go there, help out, the ebay guy has money, all iranians have money, 1 dollar times 100 million is still 100 million dollars.

[pupsi42]

thanks for your support wish you health and success.

[donpogi1080]

problem with all Iranians is that they pretend not to see and turn their heads, only a few right now is helping out in these. not only is the history of Iran endangered in this, the history of the world is as well.

[donpogi1080]

what has has happened to you guys bickering and quarreling, both kurds and persians trace their roots to the Iranian line and you are quarreling instead of spreading this news to everybody, make dozens of other youtube videos about this atrocity against history, even Cyrus enemies admired him, spread this, let those Iranian celebrities of yours now what is happening, that rich dude who owns ebay and etc, do something. email everybody, spread the news. all iranian people should combine to save

[KurdishImmortal]

you are right, this is part of our history, whoever we are, as an iranian people be us Kurdish, Baloch, Tajik, Gilak, Persian or Armenian, we have, as a People save this tomb. He was half median and we Kurds, trace our lineage to the man. we gotta protect this site,

[donpogi1080]

what has has happened to you guys bickering and quarreling, both kurds and persians trace their roots to the Iranian line and you are quarreling instead of spreading this news to everybody, make dozens of other youtube videos about this atrocity against history, even Cyrus enemies admired him, spread this, let those Iranian celebrities of yours now what is happening, that rich dude who owns ebay and etc, do something. email everybody, spread the news. all iranian people should combine to save

[mdoddly]

Save Pasargod, I visited Pasargod last year, as a persian I was and still am ashamed to see how baddly Pasargod been treated, Save pasargod

[Unknown177]

Im getting sick of all the kurds and turks claiming the popular persians were this and that, ffs some people even say that Cyrus was arab, wtf dumb idiots Cyrus was the most fullblooded Persian ever to exist!

[Cosmas77]

what??? ready for a response???? all time greeks were beating persians go to your mumy

[yashil17]

no they havn't, i mean even in shit 300, which u ppl call history, they said that persians beat the greeks, and plus there wern't a billion persians nor were there 300 spartans therewere more spartans than 300

[Cosmas77]

hey listen, your enconomy even with your oils canot be beter than cyprus,iran is poor country with old rules and is not modenrn country, greeks could develop their enconomy and made great things, what iral could done??? CRY FOR A KING??

[aryanium]

Listen Cosmas77, you fucking Cyprus jackass, You idiot crack head, thats the way they call you guys in Cyprus in IRAN! So go wipe off the shits of the Europeans as its been the job of your fathers. you're not entitles to comment on Persians with your fucked up English.

If you want to be rude, We can be the same. So shut your fucking mouth. In case you have been tempted to reply me with the same disgusting terminology make sure to make yourself ready for a tougher response from me you Jackass.

[lovedariusthegreat]

ghartogh bitch,you will call cyrus arab again,i swear to god i will come to ur house wherever you live and i will cut your throat.you are one stupid son of the bitch.

[shir2008]

What the hell are these people having lunch in front of the Cyrus tomb! Fucking no respect! These ruins have to be cared for.

[shir2008]

It would be an honor to visit his burial tomb one day and pay my respects.

[Chakerim]

We LOVE our Persian Civilization and ARE PROUD !!!

[qhartogh]

Cyrus was truly a great and wise leader!!!!!

One of the greatest Arabs that ever lived!!!!

[kaikayne]

cyrus was no arab, its a common misconseption to think of iranians as arabs, dont make that mistake

[Killzoneclpz]

omfg wtf cyrus an arab dude thts like spitin on his tomb or sayin fuk u cyrus

[Naraku111]

Cyrus was half Kurd half persian

and Salahadin wasnt arab either he was a kurd

lots of arabs mistake those 2 heros for arabs :P

[yashil17]

wtf r u talking about, if cyrus was half kurdish, then why the hell would he conquer kurdistan?

[Naraku111]

rofl learn your history

cyrus his mom was median and his dad was persian

when he conquered media it was called the

"no blood war" as in the medians (kurds) respected him so much and blevied that he should be the true king of media and most joined his army

and he conqured it because he wanted power and wealth

-his grandpa was the king of media-

[yashil17]

well kurdistan was a part of iran and still is.

[yashil17]

and plus the first cyrus which is more known, was persian he was from the achaemenes

[Naraku111]

"His overlord was his own grandfather, Astyages, ruler of the powerful Median kingdom"

Astyages was his maternal grandfather

Cyrus 1 was his paternal grandfather

[Gilgamesch1994]

sorry but Cyrus was Half Persian and half Median and this is an Iranian tribe too!!

But i heard that sallahadin was Kurd!!

[Naraku111]

The Medes are ancestors of Kurds. They are not a tribe you fool.

[Gilgamesch1994]

Hey Medes was Iranian!! Its writing in all history books!!!

And your right The medes was the ancestor of Kurds so Kurds have iranian ancestors!!

And hey i like kurds i want too that they get their lands back!!!!!

[shir2008]

He was not an Arab! He was Persian. Get your facts straight!

[PleasantPenguin]

OH MY GOD :(

[1Anthrax1]

cyrus was a great king and iran have a great history and heros

salutions from greece

[Iranium]

Thanks,also salutions to the great and ancient,modern history of greece

[Killzoneclpz]

we love greece just like persia :)

[shir2008]

Our histories go way back. Our civilizations were amazing. Lets not forget our past.

My cousin, a Persian, has been happily married to a handsome Greek gentleman & they have two children together.

I'm a Persian who admires & respects Greek history & nation.

Much love & peace.

[michae7l]

persia had numbers not war skills warriors

Glory to the Greece and Mesopotamia

[feriacu]

LOL! You don't know anything! You have no idea about history! Persian Kings are famous for their skills! Even Alexander when came to Iran he sacrificed for the Cyrus the great in front of his grave, Alexander knew Cyrus the great as his teacher and superior.

Even now they still use Cyrus the great tactics and skills in American army. Because of his skills Persia became the biggest Empire that world has ever seen!

[governator86]

Teacher perhaps.. superior though.. I doubt he thought that, more like a peer most likely.

[Iranium]

sassanids and parthians are known for their wartactics and skills, even romans copied parthians. The parthian shot is famous, they were Iranians 2.

[superh4]

dude the sassanid persians beat the romans more than 15 times with the byzantine empire they even captured emperor valerion wut r u talkin about

[persiarising]

Please read the "Persian Fire" by Holland, to learn the truth about our history.

[fuxxx21]

You persians don't believe the 300 actually happened? It is a myth?? Wow. Now I actually think you should be bombed just for that particular lie. Their is so much mendacity in your nation.

[badshans]

shut up idiot, since when you've become a history expert? Some conflict did happen between the 2 nations, but that movie is based on a comic book, intended for idiots like yourself.

[888998888]

don't blame him. People in West don't know about ancient Iran. Public education and media in the US are shit. I blame US for not helping democratic oposition in Iran. Instead of helping Iranians we went to Iraq to overthrow atheist dictator and make place for islamists.

[persiarising]

You know, your tone and words are meant to make us angry...and you sound like some one I should take pity on. You cann't help it, can you? We, Persians want our nation free of Islam and We as children of Cyrus the Great want the Enlightnend Americans and the rest of the world to help us do so. If you want to stand on the side of ignorance, do so.

[moos07]

you're the exact reason why iran protested; your stupity. the makers of the movie already said the story was based on a comic and not reality. dumbass.

[payam7]

dont blame him westerns can not think about what they see...they think whatever TV or media says is right...at de skools OMG the fuckin teacher asked me if we have car in iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dats how dey think! dey are noting but idiot

[rahamati]

300 was a fake movie is was really 2000 persians and 1500 greeks plus greeks should be the horde not us becuase they killed kids and parents persians never did and that was the time of alexender the great plus wtf a war finishes in about 1hour dude 300 killed 1000 not 1 300 died wtf thats said

[Perszeusz]

You said that there's no difference between Scythians and Persians or Medes? Dude, just look at their art, their language (it's similar on the three but Scythians belong to another group)... I see the "Aryans" as those that migrated, but it's my point of view. They fit perfectly under the "Aryan" classification, so, my bad.

[Perszeusz]

I was the one who said

[Perszeusz]

...that Herodotus was unreliable. Just because it's mostly fiction, like demneh wrote. Obviously it's not a total fairy tale, but as a source, speacially to know a person from a land outside of his, it's unreliable. I'll try to demonstrate that if I find something short enough to post.

[Perszeusz]

About the concept of "Aryan" you lost the point totally. I don't believe in "races", the only race is our beautiful human race, full of colors and personalities. I see the concept of Aryan as a cultural one. That way, I consider Scythians closely related to Aryan culture, but not quite Aryan themselves. Stupid racial concepts are not my style, thanks, you should judge more carefully.

[Perszeusz]

I don't consider Scythians as Aryans since I look at the concept of "Aryan" in a different way. I wouldn't trust the Bible or Herodotus, but I seems interesting that I've never read something like Cyrus being a slave trader, or that Iran existed before him. And I'm not on nationalistic fantasies, because I favour the thruth, no matter how it is, and I'm not even Iranian.

[fajams23]

You think of Aryan in a "racial" way (which is stupid). Even then, the Scythians were from Central Asia, where aryans first came from. However, we will never know because there are no Scythians alive to do genetic tests on.

Also, I'm not saying Herodotus or the Bible are reliable, but they are the ONLY available sources of his life. Period.

[demneh]

Some say that the Elamic civilization is the olderst in the world some disagree but one thing they all agree on... it was a great one!! look what the Assyrians did to it!! compare it to what Cyrus the great did to Babylonians and the rest... he didnt destroy anything but rebuilt them

[Perszeusz]

If they are the only avaliable sources, you shouldn't be so sure of yourself stating blatantly that Cyrus is a farse, and all those that say he was a good ruler (to say the least) are liars. You didn't wrote that directly, but that's a clearly transmitted message.

[Perszeusz]

Well, some renown the Scythians as Aryans (I'm not included), IIRC.

Anyway, I would like to know your sources, fajams. No human has never been perfect, power corrupts the soul, certainly I could understand that, but there was any known ruler better than him, in any period of history? specially in times when the world powers had no respect for anyone?

[fajams23]

My sources are the only real sources from Cyrus's time. The Bible, Darius's inscriptions, Herodotus. When you make unsubstantiated assertions, like the Lydians were going to invade Persia or the Scythians weren't Aryans, you're making that stuff up, just to satisfy your own nationalist fantasies of who Cyrus was.

A better king than Cyrus? Maybe ALL the kings of Persia before him that did not see the need to attack their neighbors, tax them, and bring them to Pars to build him palaces?

[demneh]

...Cyrus hastened westwards, and after an encounter at Pteria forced Croesus to retire to his capital city of Sardis.and the rest i'm sure you know... who attacks who here?!!! get your facts right.

[demneh]

i don't think that your sources are the Bible the Quran and the wholly books of other religions... if they were then you would have seen how they praise Cyrus the Great as the Messiah or the Zol-Gharnein or savvier... just have a look at his charter of human rights...

[bardiasaidi]

in the name of iran. in the memory bof cyrus the great. king of kings lives 4 ever.

[fajams23]

people talk about how islamic fundamentalism is ruining iran. but I think blind nationalism is even worse for Iran. Why are you worshipping a 2500 dead guy? Cyrus did not do anything good for the people of Iran. People talk about how Cyrus allowed freedom of religion, but he taxed his subject people to death. The ancient cultures of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Elam, and Medea came to an end because of Cyrus, and Cyrus did not even try to spread Persian religion.

Iranians need to grow up.

[Naraku111]

Cyrus saved jews from babylon he said threeshould be no more slaves he actualy payed poepel to make stuff for him (darius payed crafters to make the capital of iran) were not warshiping him... were paying respect... like he was a great man and created the land i used to live on so i respect him

[fajams23]

1) Cyrus did not create Iran. It had been there for centuries before him. All Cyrus did was attack neighboring countries and make them pay him tax (which is like slavery).

2) Darius and Cyrus are not the same person. In fact, Darius killed all of Cyrus's children to make himself king.

3) Iran did not have slavery before Cyrus. In fact, people were equal in Iran before Cyrus. Cyrus was the person to make Iran a monarchy and force people to pay tax to him

[demneh]

In his book, 'History Of The World,' John Roberts writes:

"Large areas knew longer periods of peace under the Persian Empire than for centuries and it was in many ways a beautiful and gentle civilization."

[demneh]

After Zarathushtra, Cyrus the great is the greatest son that the Aryan people have given to this earth... he did more for humanity than any ruler in the history of kings and rulers.

[fajams23]

funny how cyrus died trying to enslave an aryan race... the scythians.

[demneh]

Scythians were not aryan!! where do you get your history from!!!

[fajams23]

Scythians spoke an Iranian language... thus they were Aryan. Plus, Cyropaedia is known to be fiction, ask any respected academic. Did Cyrus worship Zeus? Cuz he does in the Cyropaedia! Did the Persians have naked olympic games? Cuz they do in the Cyropaedia! Its fiction, it was meant to be fiction. Have you read it? It seems all you know is that video you saw on youtube.

[demneh]

what history book doesn't have fictions in it!! Herodotus the so called father of history is 99% fiction, is it not?!!! and about the Lydian king , Croesus, saw an opportunity with the change of regime in Iran to expand his kingdom. He crossed the river Halys, previously regarded as the boundary between the Lydians to the west and the Medes and Persians to the east.

[demneh]

If you search the word "Hakha" in farsi dic, you will see that it means togetherness or coming together. that was a way of governing that brought peace and stability to the world and saved more religions and cultures than any other time in the history of mankind.

[fajams23]

Hakhmanish was a fictional person that Darius made up to make it look like him and Cyrus had a common ancestor and thus Darius had a legitimate claim to Cyrus's throne. Darius killed of Cyrus's children. Hakhamnish meant "of friendly mind" in old persian (which is nothing like modern farsi)

[demneh]

Hakhamanish was a fictional person!! i don't understand why everything that you dont like to believe is suddenly fiction!! it is ridiculous...everything else that you make up is not fiction and is a fact!! no my friend an intellectual debate doesnt work like that.

[demneh]

Cyrus the Great was and upto this point stays the most benevolent, just and humane king that this earth have seen to itself. give me examples of others please

[demneh]

Now as Scythians story goes, they were a warmonger uncivilised tribe who would have all the time attack the northern borders of his empire and he went there to defend it!! Cyrus has always won because one person, very close to the enemy saw Cyrus the great as being a greater king than his own king and helped him in the battle. ex: Mede, Lydia, Babylon...

[fajams23]

I can't discuss anything with you when you make unsubstantiated claims!!! Show me a source that says the Scythians were attacking the Perians! Queen Tomyris of the Massatagae warned Cyrus to not cross the river Oxus to invade her tribe but he did it anyway. Show some sources!!!!!

[demneh]

as far as the Scythians concerns, i need to tell you that just like his birth, also his death does not belong to the history and is full of legendary tails. for example no one is for sure that he even died in a battle between Tomyris or if she as they say drank his blood or whatever... some say he died in bed, after seeing in a dream that gods call him, he told his people arround him and he simply died

[demneh]

i said "what history book doesn't have fictions in it!! Herodotus the so called father of history is 99% fiction, is it not?!!!" i never said that he is unreliable!!

[demneh]

and as the taxing goes!! compare how Cyrus the great treated people to how the other as you put it kings before him did!! lets take his grandfather, the king of Medes and they way he treated the Assyrians.. i suppose you prefer that way don't you!!

[fajams23]

why do you think that i like enslaving foreign people? I don't like Cyrus because he took over other countries who were independent before him. I don't think the Medes were much better. Also, I think it is hypocritical for you to say Herodotus was unreliable (which he was) and then bring up things Herodotus wrote to make your point.

[demneh]

i guess we can talk for ever!!! but one thing is for sure! he for the amount of power he had was a great king. a benevolent ruler and someone who gave peace and stability to many civilizations for the so called tax as you call it. if it wasnt for him and his ways... many many civilizations with all their glory would have been vanished as were happening before his time

[demneh]

he built 13 cities some of which we have only small trace of... he gave money to the jews to rebuild their temple, he stoped slavery and so on.... and besides lets not go to Darius the Great which i wouldnt know where to start from... you seems to have a personal issue whith these things that shows you are ither a fanatic muslim, or a comonist who is against everything or a racist nationalist Kurd who things that cyrus has stolen everything from the Medes...

[TheHabit00]

@demneh modern persians need to take after cyrus!

[Perszeusz]

What the hell are you writing about? What Cyrus made was defend the newly founded country by counter-attacking the fearful rulers that saw him as a menace, and he was sucessful in defeating all of them, something that makes him a superb strategist, and he helped all those cultures conquered to unite under one goverment with a level of freedom unmatched in the known world.

[Perszeusz]

He didn't tried to spread Zoroastrianism since Zoroastrians believe every people deserves to follow the religion of their ancestors. And if you think paying taxes is like being a slave, you should really analyze for a second what does "slavery" means. It's not blindness, is a fight to reveal the past, to improve the future.

[fajams23]

lydia, phyrgia, bactria, etc... never attacked parsua, so Cyrus was not defending himself. If Cyrus cared that much about people's cultures, why did he displace populations to destroy the nationalism of the particular oountries?

Also, taxes are slavery when the subjugated peoples get nothing in return for them.That why so many countries revolted after Cyrus died.Persia itself even revolted and the new king (later killed by Darius) reduced taxes.

[Perszeusz]

He was not defending himself in the sense of fending off invaders, but because the attack was inminent. The kings of Babylon, Lydia and the Pharaoh of Egypt were worried by Cyrus power and they were preparing to invade the region, so that peril was sucessfully transformed into a conquest. The concept of Nation barely existed in this period, it was just a frail sense of loyalty to a petty ruler, or the land you were born in.

[fajams23]

Show a source that kings of Lydia and Egypt (or any other country) were preparing to invade Persia. Also, the concept of "nation" did exist at that time. Those countries were the greatest civilizations in the world and they had all lasted a thousand years (Egypt was 2000 years old) There are still people who consider themselves Assyrian even though their country was destroyed in 631 BC.

[Perszeusz]

Then show me a source stating that Cyrus actually displaced populations and detroyed that nationalism. I know what you mean with nationalism now, right, people from great civilizations like Babylon or Egypt were proud of the country they lived in, but it's unlike modern nationalism by the fact that their specific city or region was far more important than the country itself, an example may be that the Egyptians never forgot they had formerly 2 kingdoms (lower and upper Egypt).

[demneh]

i see why you are so blindly and irrationally trying to argue against someone who made the first charter of human rights!! you are an uneducated Kurdish-speaker who think that you are originally from Mede or Assyrian!!!

[demneh]

Until the mid 19th century, the West knew ancient Persia as the paragon of "benevolent power," not just through the Old Testament but also through the 'Cyropaedia,' written by another Greek author, Xenophon. 'Cyropaedia' literally means, "The Teaching of Cyrus" and was as much a part of the political library as Machiavelli's 'The Prince.' In fact, it was the only alternative to Machiavelli's theory that "It is Better To Be Feared Than Loved."

[fajams23]

cyropeadia was fiction. Xenophon lived 200 years after cyrus and never went to Iran. Furthermore, the government outlined in Cyropaedia was clearly Athenian. Have you read the book? Plus I'm not a Kurd you racist piece of shit.

[demneh]

i never said i was racist!! i said you are being one. cyropeadia was written 200 years later or 2000 years later!! facts are facts!! the bible was written 40 later but it doesnt mean that it is a fivtion. ehat is your problem with cyrus the great anyway!!

[demneh]

"For the first time in human history, Cyrus used his great power to improve the human condition rather than degrade it."

Dr. David Stronach

(UC Berkeley)

[demneh]

Praised by the Bible, the Cyropaedia, and John Locke - their three most influential sources - America's founding Fathers broke with tradition and adopted Cyrus's model of 'benevolent government' for their new nation.

[demneh]

have a look at this one more time: In his book, 'History Of The World,' John Roberts writes:

"Large areas knew longer periods of peace under the Persian Empire than for centuries and it was in many ways a beautiful and gentle civilization."

[persianmafia25]

Long live Iran zamin.

Persian pride 4 life.