I love this rap, as an Atheist myself I always get a negative response when I tell someone I'm Atheist. My girlfriend who is christian doesn't care that I'm Atheist, but her church does. And it annoys me because they try to take her away from me just because of my belief.
@joeluby thank you..its comments like yours that make staying up all night to stack ammo & edit a YouTube video worthwhile. Its shitty that these new channel designs do not give me an option anymore to add you as a "contact" (friend) *sigh* ...since I am holding on to the old design till forced to walk the plank, I'd be hono(u)red if you could figure out a way to "add" me, Mark, Dublin, Irish Republic :)
Well I think when we say we, we are refering to all of us who share the same idea that god isn't real? Because there is more then one person who don't belive. There for u can use the term we? So fuck u.
i really dont give a flying fuck what you believe in ( I mean dont believe in) but why would you treat atheism as a religion, cuz its not its just a group of people who dont believe in anything so please stop saying "we" when speaking about atheism. Thank you.
@ichigo246810 i think your comment is directed at Greydon Square, if you wish to interact with him or you should comment greydonsquare channel's videos. I am merely an independent video editor, who had his permission to make videos for 7 of his tracks & upload them to my page. If you wish to "demonise" (lol) or "glorify" (hehe) "New Atheism" (Strong Atheism) of course you can do so here, but don't assume you know my precise philosophy. You actually have a good point about this "we" business :)
@ichigo246810 How is referring to atheists as a group treating it like a religion? No one says we when speaking about atheism, they say we when speaking about atheists. Someone says we when they consider themselves part of a group. You're logic is completely flawed, kid.
@ichigo246810 actually, atheism isn't not believing in god, atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist. So essentially atheists are a group of people sharing beliefs, you can have strong atheists and weak atheists, just as you can have strict and moderate christians / jews etc.
@MrTowerofPisa Wrong, you dumb fuck. Atheism is lack of faith in gods. The belief that gods doesent exist - is something different. One of the five world religions are atheistic, the only thing all atheists have in common is that they dont believe in gods.
Personally I dont use the word "atheist" about myself, because unintelligent clowns like you have no idea what the word means. I use "nonreligious", and that way I also cover all of the religions without gods too. Fuck you!
@1TtidnaB lol, well someone has sand in their vagina. Not believing in god can be agnostic then, you don't beliieve there is a god, you don't believe there isn't. Atheism is believing that there is no god, particularily strong atheism. Go suck a fat one retard.
@MrTowerofPisa Agnostic says something about knowledge, not belief. Extreamly basic epistemology, anyone with a higher education should know easy things like these - not saying that youre educated, because you are obviously not.
These idiotic terms "strong" and "weak" atheism - doesent really have anything to do with atheism, they are different terms for different things. Atheism is simply not believing in gods, no more, no less. If you start adding words, you move away from that. Assborn fool
@1TtidnaB lol, you want to talk about education when you don't even know that strong and weak atheism are real things that exist, they show where you stand on things, it's like being left wing or right wing, it just displays the severity of your atheism, go look it up retard.
@MrTowerofPisa Hehe, I am more than familiar with those horrible expressions: "strong" and "weak" atheism. Just some more products of american stupidity, the already dumb consepts of implicit and explicit atheism further dumbed down for the american audience.
@MrTowerofPisa You dont have to be american to buy into their bullshit.
Strong/weak-atheism moves away from the original meaning of the word, and as soon as you start getting involved in a over-simplified system like that, you will draw false conclusions.
@1TtidnaB "Strong/Weak Atheism" is necessary because the majority on non-atheists believe Atheism is STRONG ATHEISM (which is of course it's not). You can't just say "Atheism" and assume everyone knows what you are talking about.
Now of course "Atheism" should be synonymous for Weak Atheism as I explained in my earlier post - But that doesn't mean we don't have a need for the terms Weak/Strong.
It would be nice if we didn't need them. But that's how it ought to be, not how it is.
@devious21 Non-atheists also thinks agnosticism is a third alternative to atheist/theist, that atheism is a religion and that atheists generally are a certain type of person. There are so many misunderstandings, deliberate or not, around atheism - that introducing poor and incomplete terms like "strong/weak-atheism" into the mix just further the confusion. Non-religious and anti-religious are superior alternatives that covers alot more ground, and leave less room for misunderstadings.
@1TtidnaB "Non-religious and anti-religious are superior alternatives that covers alot more ground, and leave less room for misunderstadings."
I disagree. "non-religious" sounds like it's a belief on religion when it's a belief about god. Implying that it's acceptable to believe in creator or first cause gods, as long as you don't have a bible or holy book to follow.
I'm not saying we SHOULD use strong/weak. I'm saying it's necessary sometimes to clarify what someone is talking about.
@devious21 "Implying that it's acceptable to believe in creator or first cause gods, as long as you don't have a bible or holy book to follow."
Good point, and I have put some tought into this before. The same applies to atheism, since atheism doesent rule out deism (and a few other god(s)-related consepts).
Its a little over the top to say "I'm a nonreligious atheistic adeist antitheist", and theists tend to take "I dont believe in things that doesent exist" pretty bad.
@1TtidnaB I personally prefer Atheist vs Gnostic-Atheist. This solidifies that the default Atheism is Agnostic-atheism.
In the end, no matter which terminology you choose - You're going to have to explain your terms to people. You just have to.
Strong/Weak Atheism are the most common ones and what's described on it's wiki page. Even though I prefer "Atheist/Gnostic Atheist" and you prefer "non-religious/anti-religious", that doesn't matter if no one is familiar with them.
@devious21 Gnostic-atheist is without a doubt the best one, but since most people will misunderstand it and fill in their blanks with their own homemade definitions, I never use the term outside of internet.
I would love it if someone came along and created some new usable terminology common, the next generations Hitchens and Dawkins
@1TtidnaB "I would love it if someone came along and created some new usable terminology common, the next generations Hitchens and Dawkins"
I have thought about this as well. It needs to be the next very visible atheist to start using a single set of terms and get them to spread to every day language.
"atheism doesent rule out deism"
I've seen varying definitions of deism but usually when you break it down, what they label as their god is incompatible with atheism
@MrTowerofPisa "actually, atheism isn't not believing in god, atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist."
You obviously know the difference between weak/strong atheism. So, what you've claimed there is that the term 'Atheism" means strong atheism as opposed to weak. I disagree and here is why.
Weak atheism is a pre-requisite for strong atheism. It is the more general term and applies to most atheists. If Atheism meant S.A., it requires each atheist to qualify the term and is inefficient.
@devious21 Actually I agree, I suppose the word 'atheism' should have been defined and a mutual agreement made on whether SA or WA is being referred to, I just naturally refer to atheism in terms of SA as those are my own beliefs (along with apatheistic traits). Good point.
@ichigo246810 same for Christianity, every time one gets attention, you all say they are not a true Christian. So it's just a bunch of people who can't agree on what they believe in, yet bash everyone else for not agreeing with them.
WOW! 61 yr old caucasian grandmother thinks Greydon Square is on hell of a profound rapper.......keep up the good work.......keep up the rational thinking.
I live in the bible belt but not by choice. I moved here with my sister to Knoxville and then I moved to this town. I get people all of the time asking me if I go to church or have I been "saved". Since I have gone to college, I have made some friends who are Atheist. They are not from Tennessee originally though!
Religion is faith. In order to believe in the right religion u must read. Paul wrote four books in the bible. Read them he will tell u why he changed from what he use to do. I use to be a non believer myself. But not anymore. I wake up with praise for I know the truth.
It's a shame the uploader has to pollute his own comments with 9/11 conspiracy garbage. I'm always disappointed when a fellow atheist buys into that conspiracy crap, it's a reminder that not all atheists are critical thinkers.
@bloodhyren YES, I'm the uploader, YES I'm the video editor...& YES I've chosen to join the comments here & excercise my RIGHT to freedom of speech. You should watch THIS video, its 260 minutes long, feel free to get back to me in 261 minutes /watch?v=6jixU7JG4pg&feature=colike Its called : " 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full)
@SubversiveVideo it's good to hear lyrical rythm from rap that refers to more than just as and sweaty balls good job man I hope to hear more songs like your come from the rap industry
As a critical thinker and someone who initially looked at the claims as too out there to take seriously, after investigating the evidence, I took notice. I found that I would have to resort to suspension of disbelief to ignore the evidence that's there. I choose not to build onto the objective any subjective conclusions on conspiracies or what it all means, but I simply can't ignore the inconsistencies that are there. And I have no special interest in protecting any view on the matter.
@drummerkid1993 YOU pull YOURSELF together "man". You should watch " 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) " here on YouTube, but you probably WON'T because it threatens your world view. It would be like asking a devout Christian to watch " The God Delusion " film. In " 9/11: Explosive Evidence " over 1600 prominent High-Rise Architects & Engineers testify that nano-thermite was found in the debris & that all 3 buildings could only have been brought down by controlled demolition.
@SubversiveVideo I appreciate what you're saying because I know how deceptive these films can be. Loose change, Zeitgeist etc. I've watched them all and used to eat it up. I also used to be a committed Catholic but am now an atheist. I hope this proves I have no problem with a challenged world view because I care about truth. The film presents an argument from authority but even if that was not a logical fallacy it proves nothing because there are a higher number of Architects...
...who understand what a plane flying at 500mph can do to a building. Think about how hard it would be to plant explosives which would take weeks and get past security staff for that long without anyone telling. It is bordering on illogical to think it is possible.
@drummerkid1993 look dude, planes flew into (roughly) the area between the 75th & 80th floors of buildings 1 & 2. In both buildings the floors below the 70th floor were undamaged. Building 7 was not hit by a plane but still fell at freefall speed just like buildings 1 & 2. Hitler burned down the Reichstag (Parliament/Congress) in order to blame the Jews/Communists. This is called a False Flag Incident. Anyways, I'm just the video editor & uploader here & I direct you to UnrestfulDeath's comment
@SubversiveVideo None of the buildings fell at freefall speed, dumbass. Read an actual peer reviewed essay on the 9/11 attacks rather than some stupid tumblr page set up by a pretentious college student who doesn't know shit about architecture.
@BrimstoneLandscapes " 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) " is a 160 minute video on YouTube. 1600 architects & engineers have timed it to about 7 seconds, NEAR freefall speed, watch the videos of the collapses, time it yourself dickwad
@SubversiveVideo I assume "it" is building 7. If so then 1600 architects didn't watch the entire video. The building began its collapse when the east penthouse fell which happened about 6-7 seconds before the outer wall fell. So in reality, WTC7 collapsed from the inside out and caved into itself slowly and not all together in one quick 7 second failure like the truthers claim.
@BrimstoneLandscapes 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) is on YouTube. So DON'T come back to these comments for 160 minutes because thats how long the documentary lasts. Watch it.
@BrimstoneLandscapes Neither do the 1600 scientists who made the documentary DVD & accompanying report. It wasn't made for YouTube, it was made to be presented to your government, which it was. You're a forensic researcher now? Why are there references to "JewTube" & "faggots" on your profile? I hope your racism & homophobia don't skew your logic & reason. Greydon Square might not approve lol. I'm on YouTube to upload videos like this, and to tend to ensuing comments, Mark, Dublin, Ireland
@SubversiveVideo They're not references, they're words, but okay. Jewtube is an obvious joke name and faggot is just a generic insult that everybody uses and has nothing to do with homophobia unless you live in San Francisco. That's like if I called someone an uptight cunt and you cried sexism because the word cunt was involved. And the forensic researcher comment was just stupid and pointless.
@BrimstoneLandscapes right, tired of this, i'm going to bed, perhaps you might comment on the merits or demerits my (this) video instead of obliquely related matters. I made 6 greydon square videos on this (SubversiveVideo) channel, good night :)
As for the doc, I'll just say that I won't be watching it any time soon. There are plenty of debunkers who are experts as well, and it really doesn't matter how many old guys with glasses you have on your side, what matters is the arguments themselves. And frankly, throwing links at me rather than actually providing your own argument makes you look like a fucking tool.
@BrimstoneLandscapes right, tool huh? i'm blocking you for 2 days from commenting here to teach you some manners, i'll unblock you in 2 days, now get lost
@8789spartan cheers for your comment saying that was directed at BrimstoneLandscapes, I accidentally removed it trying to reply cos I was half asleep. This vid (& my "Greydon Square - Judge Me (Atheist Rap)" vid) always generate the most hostile ad hominem lol :)
@drummerkid1993 UnrestfulDeath 2 weeks ago It doesnt even matter if it wasnt a conspiracy, what the U.S. military did in retaliation should of never happened.
9/11 was a conspiracy regardless of what theory you follow.
The cardboard cutter carrying Ninja Arabs theory provided by the government is a conspiracy theory, there is no getting around it, the only difference is their theory requires absolutely no proof for people to take it as fact. Unless you have proof that Bin Laden and cohorts were responsible for 9/11, because the FBI sure doesn't, and the 9/11 omissions report sure missed the "proof" part.
Maybe you're not as open-minded as you think you are. The events on 9/11 were staged. Watch "9/11: Blueprint for Truth - The Architecture of Destruction (2008)" with an open mind if you care about the reality of what happened that day.
@DNRchist If YOU are as open minded as you think you are - Please check out ae911truth (dot) info - The claims by them are already addressed and debunked. Systematically and step by step.
I found that after searching for 7 minutes online.
7 minutes? That's your research? The Architecture of Destruction takes 2 hours and you can watch another 40 minutes of evidence in Zeitgeist: The Movie.
@DNRchist I haven't. I read a synopsis of the points they made in the video.
Then I used Google to look up information of the points being made in the video and I found a step by step refutation of those points.
Again, if you saw and understood the video, you should be able to convey the arguments made in the video in a concise manner. If you can't convey the points clearly, you are getting wrapped up in a propaganda video.
Base your beliefs on the information and not how good someone talks.
Base my beliefs on information? That's what they've trying to give me in AoD. With just facts. You are the one who hasn't seen it so what are you talking about? Propaganda for what?
I am convinced 9/11 was a set up and I'm sorry if I made you feel like you had to agree with me. It is completely up to you what you want to believe, but don't try to lecture me on things when you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
@DNRchist "You are the one who hasn't seen it so what are you talking about? Propaganda for what?"
I'm saying I don't need to watch a "presentation" of the facts. I went online and found the points and arguments the video proposes. The actual facts.
Then, I looked up the questions posed in the videos and quickly found that most of that has been addressed already. And in a pretty clear cut manner.
You obviously found the video compelling. Looking at what they are proposing, I do not.
@devious21 I am just wondering what arguments does this video make? That the holocaust happened? Cause that did happen... That they believe we are guilty of our parents crimes? Cause they really do believe that -_-
This guy is an idiot. "No separation, no body takin' sides at all.".... hmmm. is he not being a hater on Christians?? seems to me like he's taking a side. fool.
You're the fool for hearing only what you want to hear. He was saying IF EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BELIEVED THERE WAS NO GOD OR RELIGIONS, THEN there would be nobody 'takin sides' because there'd be no 'sides' (religions) to take. There would be no Christianity to 'hate' against.
@retrogamerist it was in response to LindenRianna saying Greydon was 'taking a side' by hating on Christians. Spoken like a true ignoramus, of course.
@Applecrazy12347 9/11 was an inside job done by Bush's cronies. 650,000 innocent civilians were murdered by the US in the first 3 months of carpet bombing in the Iraq War. No WMD's were found. The Iraq & Afghanistan Wars are unjust wars fought under false pretences. The US spends 65% of its budget on the military when it is the world's only superpower. This IS the 4th Crusade. Fuck your evil military industry complex and your non-existent "God" :) Mark (editor of this video)
@Applecrazy12347 Whats "bullshit" about it? Why don't you take my assertions INDIVIDUALLY and try to dispute them? No, I thought not, you don't have a leg to stand on. Obama is a cruel hoax. QUOTE: (Campaign Promise - October 27, 2007) : "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. " What did he do? Start AFGHANISTAN war.
@SubversiveVideo technically when you make a claim, you have to support evidence for what you claim. I'm not too sure that these are crusades, but are very religiously based wars and that 9/11 was an inside job. 9/11 is more than likely not, you might as well say the Illuminati control the world and that zeitgeist is a credible movie.
@Dubonjierugi Why did the BBC (UK TV) find 4 of the alleged hijackers ALIVE years after 9/11. Why did the fires on 9/11 burn 100's of degrees hotter than jet fuel can possibly burn? Why did 3 of the alleged pilots train at american air force bases? Why did building 7 collapse when it wasn't even hit by a plane? Why are buildings 1, 2, & 7 the ONLY steel framed buildings in world history EVER to collapse in a fire? Why do creationists on YouTube NEVER give ANY evidence for their "God" Theory?
@SubversiveVideo Well technically, steel becomes malleable at normal temperatures at which fire burns, just not very. The engineers designed them to stand up for fires for hours at this heat. However, jet fuel burns significantly hotter then a paper fire, and was able to make the steel structure malleable.That being said, Bush had some warning to the attack, he just chose to not take it as seriously as he should've. And they were trained at a facility where they train crop dusting pilots. Btw.
i was reading this guys bio. man his had a hard life, going from home after home and orphaned at a young age and being part of the gang culture only to become an intelligent rapper who has a vision for a better future. Greydon Square!!!
This is kinda silly. I'm an atheist but comon were being like theists...
aahanks97 1 week ago
I love this rap, as an Atheist myself I always get a negative response when I tell someone I'm Atheist. My girlfriend who is christian doesn't care that I'm Atheist, but her church does. And it annoys me because they try to take her away from me just because of my belief.
darky567 2 weeks ago
Amazing lyrics, man. Best rap ever.
AlcoholicGameaholic 1 month ago
I'm dreamin wit ya homey ; )
OpenAirAtheist 1 month ago
Hey yeah I gotta get dis sick flow on da show.
OpenAirAtheist 1 month ago
This guy is soo sick!!! To bad he wouldn't blow up in the U.S cause of the huge christian population... :/ Keep the beats and flows coming Bro!!!
bagdadexposure 1 month ago
This song is amazing
TracerGhost 1 month ago
I don't even listen to rap and I love this.
metalluvr10 2 months ago
The LORD is good.
swayingabyss 2 months ago
@swayingabyss No, invisible guy in the sky is not good, that guy is not even worthy to be a lord -_-
IronicAtheist 2 months ago
Thanks for putting out some clear, concise, good music with a truly admirable and respectable message.
All the best
joeluby 2 months ago 12
@joeluby thank you..its comments like yours that make staying up all night to stack ammo & edit a YouTube video worthwhile. Its shitty that these new channel designs do not give me an option anymore to add you as a "contact" (friend) *sigh* ...since I am holding on to the old design till forced to walk the plank, I'd be hono(u)red if you could figure out a way to "add" me, Mark, Dublin, Irish Republic :)
SubversiveVideo 2 months ago 2
Song sucks to the core but I got to support it......
spcbell3246 2 months ago
sweet my friend has a shirt of a christian rapper now i have this sweet
39sumer3939 3 months ago
Well I think when we say we, we are refering to all of us who share the same idea that god isn't real? Because there is more then one person who don't belive. There for u can use the term we? So fuck u.
jackasome58 3 months ago
Greydon!!
Enzo2284 4 months ago
i really dont give a flying fuck what you believe in ( I mean dont believe in) but why would you treat atheism as a religion, cuz its not its just a group of people who dont believe in anything so please stop saying "we" when speaking about atheism. Thank you.
ichigo246810 4 months ago
@ichigo246810 i think your comment is directed at Greydon Square, if you wish to interact with him or you should comment greydonsquare channel's videos. I am merely an independent video editor, who had his permission to make videos for 7 of his tracks & upload them to my page. If you wish to "demonise" (lol) or "glorify" (hehe) "New Atheism" (Strong Atheism) of course you can do so here, but don't assume you know my precise philosophy. You actually have a good point about this "we" business :)
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@ichigo246810 * correction : 6 vids, not 7 :)
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@ichigo246810 How is referring to atheists as a group treating it like a religion? No one says we when speaking about atheism, they say we when speaking about atheists. Someone says we when they consider themselves part of a group. You're logic is completely flawed, kid.
dmoney69696969 4 months ago
@ichigo246810 I do believe that the "we" is the human race
Corvis29 3 months ago
@ichigo246810 actually, atheism isn't not believing in god, atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist. So essentially atheists are a group of people sharing beliefs, you can have strong atheists and weak atheists, just as you can have strict and moderate christians / jews etc.
MrTowerofPisa 3 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa Wrong, you dumb fuck. Atheism is lack of faith in gods. The belief that gods doesent exist - is something different. One of the five world religions are atheistic, the only thing all atheists have in common is that they dont believe in gods.
Personally I dont use the word "atheist" about myself, because unintelligent clowns like you have no idea what the word means. I use "nonreligious", and that way I also cover all of the religions without gods too. Fuck you!
1TtidnaB 3 months ago
@1TtidnaB lol, well someone has sand in their vagina. Not believing in god can be agnostic then, you don't beliieve there is a god, you don't believe there isn't. Atheism is believing that there is no god, particularily strong atheism. Go suck a fat one retard.
MrTowerofPisa 3 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa Agnostic says something about knowledge, not belief. Extreamly basic epistemology, anyone with a higher education should know easy things like these - not saying that youre educated, because you are obviously not.
These idiotic terms "strong" and "weak" atheism - doesent really have anything to do with atheism, they are different terms for different things. Atheism is simply not believing in gods, no more, no less. If you start adding words, you move away from that. Assborn fool
1TtidnaB 3 months ago
@1TtidnaB lol, you want to talk about education when you don't even know that strong and weak atheism are real things that exist, they show where you stand on things, it's like being left wing or right wing, it just displays the severity of your atheism, go look it up retard.
MrTowerofPisa 3 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa Hehe, I am more than familiar with those horrible expressions: "strong" and "weak" atheism. Just some more products of american stupidity, the already dumb consepts of implicit and explicit atheism further dumbed down for the american audience.
1TtidnaB 3 months ago
@1TtidnaB well thats funny how its only for americans seeing as I'm not american and don't use americanisms.
MrTowerofPisa 3 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa You dont have to be american to buy into their bullshit.
Strong/weak-atheism moves away from the original meaning of the word, and as soon as you start getting involved in a over-simplified system like that, you will draw false conclusions.
1TtidnaB 2 months ago
@1TtidnaB "Strong/Weak Atheism" is necessary because the majority on non-atheists believe Atheism is STRONG ATHEISM (which is of course it's not). You can't just say "Atheism" and assume everyone knows what you are talking about.
Now of course "Atheism" should be synonymous for Weak Atheism as I explained in my earlier post - But that doesn't mean we don't have a need for the terms Weak/Strong.
It would be nice if we didn't need them. But that's how it ought to be, not how it is.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 Non-atheists also thinks agnosticism is a third alternative to atheist/theist, that atheism is a religion and that atheists generally are a certain type of person. There are so many misunderstandings, deliberate or not, around atheism - that introducing poor and incomplete terms like "strong/weak-atheism" into the mix just further the confusion. Non-religious and anti-religious are superior alternatives that covers alot more ground, and leave less room for misunderstadings.
1TtidnaB 2 months ago
@1TtidnaB "Non-religious and anti-religious are superior alternatives that covers alot more ground, and leave less room for misunderstadings."
I disagree. "non-religious" sounds like it's a belief on religion when it's a belief about god. Implying that it's acceptable to believe in creator or first cause gods, as long as you don't have a bible or holy book to follow.
I'm not saying we SHOULD use strong/weak. I'm saying it's necessary sometimes to clarify what someone is talking about.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 "Implying that it's acceptable to believe in creator or first cause gods, as long as you don't have a bible or holy book to follow."
Good point, and I have put some tought into this before. The same applies to atheism, since atheism doesent rule out deism (and a few other god(s)-related consepts).
Its a little over the top to say "I'm a nonreligious atheistic adeist antitheist", and theists tend to take "I dont believe in things that doesent exist" pretty bad.
1TtidnaB 2 months ago
@1TtidnaB I personally prefer Atheist vs Gnostic-Atheist. This solidifies that the default Atheism is Agnostic-atheism.
In the end, no matter which terminology you choose - You're going to have to explain your terms to people. You just have to.
Strong/Weak Atheism are the most common ones and what's described on it's wiki page. Even though I prefer "Atheist/Gnostic Atheist" and you prefer "non-religious/anti-religious", that doesn't matter if no one is familiar with them.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 Gnostic-atheist is without a doubt the best one, but since most people will misunderstand it and fill in their blanks with their own homemade definitions, I never use the term outside of internet.
I would love it if someone came along and created some new usable terminology common, the next generations Hitchens and Dawkins
1TtidnaB 2 months ago
@1TtidnaB "I would love it if someone came along and created some new usable terminology common, the next generations Hitchens and Dawkins"
I have thought about this as well. It needs to be the next very visible atheist to start using a single set of terms and get them to spread to every day language.
"atheism doesent rule out deism"
I've seen varying definitions of deism but usually when you break it down, what they label as their god is incompatible with atheism
devious21 2 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa Atheist is "disbelief" in god(s). I have a degree of belief. I believe you are confused.
OnjiKyoukou 3 months ago
@OnjiKyoukou what are you talking about? You didn't clearly express yourself. In what way am I confused?
MrTowerofPisa 3 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa I clearly expressed myself. Atheism is disbelief in god(s).
OnjiKyoukou 2 months ago
@MrTowerofPisa "actually, atheism isn't not believing in god, atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist."
You obviously know the difference between weak/strong atheism. So, what you've claimed there is that the term 'Atheism" means strong atheism as opposed to weak. I disagree and here is why.
Weak atheism is a pre-requisite for strong atheism. It is the more general term and applies to most atheists. If Atheism meant S.A., it requires each atheist to qualify the term and is inefficient.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 Actually I agree, I suppose the word 'atheism' should have been defined and a mutual agreement made on whether SA or WA is being referred to, I just naturally refer to atheism in terms of SA as those are my own beliefs (along with apatheistic traits). Good point.
MrTowerofPisa 2 months ago
@devious21 The definition for Atheist is "disbelief" in god(s). It is not a claim that god does not exist. What is so difficult to understand?
OnjiKyoukou 2 months ago
@OnjiKyoukou Oh, my apologies. lol
OnjiKyoukou 2 months ago
@ichigo246810 same for Christianity, every time one gets attention, you all say they are not a true Christian. So it's just a bunch of people who can't agree on what they believe in, yet bash everyone else for not agreeing with them.
MrSnowpawn 4 weeks ago
@ichigo246810 Atheism isn't a religion, but it is a "we". And we do believe in things, just not things with no evidence to support them.
banjopanther 3 weeks ago
@ichigo246810 The belief that god doesn't exist.
hihihippl 4 days ago
excellent video
8789spartan 4 months ago
Legit.
ijreilly01 4 months ago
WOW! 61 yr old caucasian grandmother thinks Greydon Square is on hell of a profound rapper.......keep up the good work.......keep up the rational thinking.
LissaJo61 4 months ago 13
Hmm, I like this!
Sounds good, also the wind-chime loop.
Normally I don't really love rap/hip-hop that much.
daddyleon 4 months ago
I live in the bible belt but not by choice. I moved here with my sister to Knoxville and then I moved to this town. I get people all of the time asking me if I go to church or have I been "saved". Since I have gone to college, I have made some friends who are Atheist. They are not from Tennessee originally though!
2young2beagrandma 5 months ago
I have a strong faith in the after life and an all judging being. But I agree that religion is corrupt and plants evil in mislead minds
nbNBnb69 5 months ago
Religion is faith. In order to believe in the right religion u must read. Paul wrote four books in the bible. Read them he will tell u why he changed from what he use to do. I use to be a non believer myself. But not anymore. I wake up with praise for I know the truth.
wayne41557 5 months ago
This is worth listening to. Real Rap!
drummerkid1993 5 months ago
Verry good
Psychoticalchoholic 5 months ago
Not bad dude, not bad at all.
ijreilly01 5 months ago
It doesnt even matter if it wasnt a conspiracy, what the U.S. military did in retaliation should of never happened.
UnrestfulDeath 5 months ago
It's a shame the uploader has to pollute his own comments with 9/11 conspiracy garbage. I'm always disappointed when a fellow atheist buys into that conspiracy crap, it's a reminder that not all atheists are critical thinkers.
bloodhyren 5 months ago 20
@bloodhyren YES, I'm the uploader, YES I'm the video editor...& YES I've chosen to join the comments here & excercise my RIGHT to freedom of speech. You should watch THIS video, its 260 minutes long, feel free to get back to me in 261 minutes /watch?v=6jixU7JG4pg&feature=colike Its called : " 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full)
SubversiveVideo 5 months ago 2
@bloodhyren 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) is actually 160 minutes long lol, watch it !!!
SubversiveVideo 5 months ago
@SubversiveVideo it's good to hear lyrical rythm from rap that refers to more than just as and sweaty balls good job man I hope to hear more songs like your come from the rap industry
BEOWULF9965 5 months ago
As a critical thinker and someone who initially looked at the claims as too out there to take seriously, after investigating the evidence, I took notice. I found that I would have to resort to suspension of disbelief to ignore the evidence that's there. I choose not to build onto the objective any subjective conclusions on conspiracies or what it all means, but I simply can't ignore the inconsistencies that are there. And I have no special interest in protecting any view on the matter.
synholiday 5 months ago
@SubversiveVideo It's bollocks, pull yourself together man.
drummerkid1993 5 months ago 2
@drummerkid1993 YOU pull YOURSELF together "man". You should watch " 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) " here on YouTube, but you probably WON'T because it threatens your world view. It would be like asking a devout Christian to watch " The God Delusion " film. In " 9/11: Explosive Evidence " over 1600 prominent High-Rise Architects & Engineers testify that nano-thermite was found in the debris & that all 3 buildings could only have been brought down by controlled demolition.
SubversiveVideo 5 months ago
@SubversiveVideo I appreciate what you're saying because I know how deceptive these films can be. Loose change, Zeitgeist etc. I've watched them all and used to eat it up. I also used to be a committed Catholic but am now an atheist. I hope this proves I have no problem with a challenged world view because I care about truth. The film presents an argument from authority but even if that was not a logical fallacy it proves nothing because there are a higher number of Architects...
drummerkid1993 5 months ago
...who understand what a plane flying at 500mph can do to a building. Think about how hard it would be to plant explosives which would take weeks and get past security staff for that long without anyone telling. It is bordering on illogical to think it is possible.
drummerkid1993 5 months ago
@drummerkid1993 look dude, planes flew into (roughly) the area between the 75th & 80th floors of buildings 1 & 2. In both buildings the floors below the 70th floor were undamaged. Building 7 was not hit by a plane but still fell at freefall speed just like buildings 1 & 2. Hitler burned down the Reichstag (Parliament/Congress) in order to blame the Jews/Communists. This is called a False Flag Incident. Anyways, I'm just the video editor & uploader here & I direct you to UnrestfulDeath's comment
SubversiveVideo 5 months ago
@SubversiveVideo None of the buildings fell at freefall speed, dumbass. Read an actual peer reviewed essay on the 9/11 attacks rather than some stupid tumblr page set up by a pretentious college student who doesn't know shit about architecture.
BrimstoneLandscapes 4 months ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes " 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) " is a 160 minute video on YouTube. 1600 architects & engineers have timed it to about 7 seconds, NEAR freefall speed, watch the videos of the collapses, time it yourself dickwad
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@SubversiveVideo I assume "it" is building 7. If so then 1600 architects didn't watch the entire video. The building began its collapse when the east penthouse fell which happened about 6-7 seconds before the outer wall fell. So in reality, WTC7 collapsed from the inside out and caved into itself slowly and not all together in one quick 7 second failure like the truthers claim.
BrimstoneLandscapes 4 months ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes 9/11: Explosive Evidence -- Experts Speak Out (Full) is on YouTube. So DON'T come back to these comments for 160 minutes because thats how long the documentary lasts. Watch it.
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@SubversiveVideo I don't consider YouTube documentaries a credible source for forensic research.
BrimstoneLandscapes 4 months ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes Neither do the 1600 scientists who made the documentary DVD & accompanying report. It wasn't made for YouTube, it was made to be presented to your government, which it was. You're a forensic researcher now? Why are there references to "JewTube" & "faggots" on your profile? I hope your racism & homophobia don't skew your logic & reason. Greydon Square might not approve lol. I'm on YouTube to upload videos like this, and to tend to ensuing comments, Mark, Dublin, Ireland
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@SubversiveVideo They're not references, they're words, but okay. Jewtube is an obvious joke name and faggot is just a generic insult that everybody uses and has nothing to do with homophobia unless you live in San Francisco. That's like if I called someone an uptight cunt and you cried sexism because the word cunt was involved. And the forensic researcher comment was just stupid and pointless.
BrimstoneLandscapes 4 months ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes right, tired of this, i'm going to bed, perhaps you might comment on the merits or demerits my (this) video instead of obliquely related matters. I made 6 greydon square videos on this (SubversiveVideo) channel, good night :)
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@SubversiveVideo (con't from previous)
As for the doc, I'll just say that I won't be watching it any time soon. There are plenty of debunkers who are experts as well, and it really doesn't matter how many old guys with glasses you have on your side, what matters is the arguments themselves. And frankly, throwing links at me rather than actually providing your own argument makes you look like a fucking tool.
BrimstoneLandscapes 4 months ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes right, tool huh? i'm blocking you for 2 days from commenting here to teach you some manners, i'll unblock you in 2 days, now get lost
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes unblocked :)
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@SubversiveVideo not today, fred. go away, we dont want to play pin the fairy tale book on the fundementalist moron.
8789spartan 4 months ago
@8789spartan cheers for your comment saying that was directed at BrimstoneLandscapes, I accidentally removed it trying to reply cos I was half asleep. This vid (& my "Greydon Square - Judge Me (Atheist Rap)" vid) always generate the most hostile ad hominem lol :)
SubversiveVideo 4 months ago
@SubversiveVideo yea, we athiests generally get negative feed back. but overall these videos are make our voice heard
8789spartan 4 months ago
@drummerkid1993 UnrestfulDeath 2 weeks ago It doesnt even matter if it wasnt a conspiracy, what the U.S. military did in retaliation should of never happened.
SubversiveVideo 5 months ago
@bloodhyren
i agree man..it's a shame..the same creationist nonsense many atheists knock, is the same kinda nonsense they get behind when it comes to 911.
itzahazylife 5 months ago
@bloodhyren That's a ridiculous statement. What is so outrageous about consider some theories about 9/11 to possibly be true?
dmoney69696969 4 months ago
@bloodhyren
9/11 was a conspiracy regardless of what theory you follow.
The cardboard cutter carrying Ninja Arabs theory provided by the government is a conspiracy theory, there is no getting around it, the only difference is their theory requires absolutely no proof for people to take it as fact. Unless you have proof that Bin Laden and cohorts were responsible for 9/11, because the FBI sure doesn't, and the 9/11 omissions report sure missed the "proof" part.
NeutralExistence 2 months ago
@bloodhyren
Maybe you're not as open-minded as you think you are. The events on 9/11 were staged. Watch "9/11: Blueprint for Truth - The Architecture of Destruction (2008)" with an open mind if you care about the reality of what happened that day.
DNRchist 2 months ago
@DNRchist If YOU are as open minded as you think you are - Please check out ae911truth (dot) info - The claims by them are already addressed and debunked. Systematically and step by step.
I found that after searching for 7 minutes online.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21
7 minutes? That's your research? The Architecture of Destruction takes 2 hours and you can watch another 40 minutes of evidence in Zeitgeist: The Movie.
DNRchist 2 months ago
@DNRchist If you think that bullshit logic in Zeitgeist is evidence, you seriously need an education. true + true + false = false
1TtidnaB 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@1TtidnaB
Tell me why it's not.
DNRchist 2 months ago
@DNRchist It took me 7 minutes to find a site that broke down the 2 hours worth of garbage in AoD.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21
Have you even seen it?
DNRchist 2 months ago
@DNRchist I haven't. I read a synopsis of the points they made in the video.
Then I used Google to look up information of the points being made in the video and I found a step by step refutation of those points.
Again, if you saw and understood the video, you should be able to convey the arguments made in the video in a concise manner. If you can't convey the points clearly, you are getting wrapped up in a propaganda video.
Base your beliefs on the information and not how good someone talks.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21
Base my beliefs on information? That's what they've trying to give me in AoD. With just facts. You are the one who hasn't seen it so what are you talking about? Propaganda for what?
I am convinced 9/11 was a set up and I'm sorry if I made you feel like you had to agree with me. It is completely up to you what you want to believe, but don't try to lecture me on things when you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
DNRchist 2 months ago
@DNRchist "You are the one who hasn't seen it so what are you talking about? Propaganda for what?"
I'm saying I don't need to watch a "presentation" of the facts. I went online and found the points and arguments the video proposes. The actual facts.
Then, I looked up the questions posed in the videos and quickly found that most of that has been addressed already. And in a pretty clear cut manner.
You obviously found the video compelling. Looking at what they are proposing, I do not.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 I am just wondering what arguments does this video make? That the holocaust happened? Cause that did happen... That they believe we are guilty of our parents crimes? Cause they really do believe that -_-
IronicAtheist 2 months ago
lyfemare
Druggalo313 6 months ago
As to the video description...it's called mysticism!
510shredder 6 months ago
Your going to hell lmao. na I'm just messing with you. I believe superman is "god" when I die I get to chill with the justice league lmao!
AdamSiders614 6 months ago
i believe in the jain religion from eastern india
and i believe in the shen religion from eastern china .
i also believe in the eightfold path and the four noble truths
but i have respect for my people = the celt .
ukgreaterlondon 6 months ago
This guy is an idiot. "No separation, no body takin' sides at all.".... hmmm. is he not being a hater on Christians?? seems to me like he's taking a side. fool.
LindenRianna 6 months ago
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510shredder 6 months ago
You're the fool for hearing only what you want to hear. He was saying IF EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BELIEVED THERE WAS NO GOD OR RELIGIONS, THEN there would be nobody 'takin sides' because there'd be no 'sides' (religions) to take. There would be no Christianity to 'hate' against.
Way to fail at assessing lyrics.
510shredder 6 months ago
@510shredder What?
retrogamerist 5 months ago
@retrogamerist it was in response to LindenRianna saying Greydon was 'taking a side' by hating on Christians. Spoken like a true ignoramus, of course.
510shredder 5 months ago
@510shredder Oh ok
retrogamerist 5 months ago
@LindenRianna He's not against christians, he's against christianity. Big difference.
AndresPetMonkey 5 months ago
Bush did not make this a religious war. They were threatening us so what were we supposed to do?
Applecrazy12347 6 months ago
@Applecrazy12347 9/11 was an inside job done by Bush's cronies. 650,000 innocent civilians were murdered by the US in the first 3 months of carpet bombing in the Iraq War. No WMD's were found. The Iraq & Afghanistan Wars are unjust wars fought under false pretences. The US spends 65% of its budget on the military when it is the world's only superpower. This IS the 4th Crusade. Fuck your evil military industry complex and your non-existent "God" :) Mark (editor of this video)
SubversiveVideo 6 months ago
@SubversiveVideo that is the biggest Bullshit i have ever heard
Applecrazy12347 6 months ago 2
@Applecrazy12347 Whats "bullshit" about it? Why don't you take my assertions INDIVIDUALLY and try to dispute them? No, I thought not, you don't have a leg to stand on. Obama is a cruel hoax. QUOTE: (Campaign Promise - October 27, 2007) : "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. " What did he do? Start AFGHANISTAN war.
SubversiveVideo 6 months ago
@SubversiveVideo technically when you make a claim, you have to support evidence for what you claim. I'm not too sure that these are crusades, but are very religiously based wars and that 9/11 was an inside job. 9/11 is more than likely not, you might as well say the Illuminati control the world and that zeitgeist is a credible movie.
Dubonjierugi 6 months ago in playlist SubversiveVideo Greydon Square HD playlist
@Dubonjierugi Why did the BBC (UK TV) find 4 of the alleged hijackers ALIVE years after 9/11. Why did the fires on 9/11 burn 100's of degrees hotter than jet fuel can possibly burn? Why did 3 of the alleged pilots train at american air force bases? Why did building 7 collapse when it wasn't even hit by a plane? Why are buildings 1, 2, & 7 the ONLY steel framed buildings in world history EVER to collapse in a fire? Why do creationists on YouTube NEVER give ANY evidence for their "God" Theory?
SubversiveVideo 6 months ago
@SubversiveVideo Well technically, steel becomes malleable at normal temperatures at which fire burns, just not very. The engineers designed them to stand up for fires for hours at this heat. However, jet fuel burns significantly hotter then a paper fire, and was able to make the steel structure malleable.That being said, Bush had some warning to the attack, he just chose to not take it as seriously as he should've. And they were trained at a facility where they train crop dusting pilots. Btw.
evabosr 5 months ago
Religion is the base of all life. How you use it is how you view it.
Applecrazy12347 6 months ago
@Applecrazy12347 Go on.
Piratesaregay12322 6 months ago
ATHEISM SUCKS ASSES!
infectedsimpson 6 months ago
@infectedsimpson not sure if stupid or just troll
ANGRYMAN1234567 6 months ago 3
@infectedsimpson just stupid. Normally trolls such as this have "something" to say. Infected is just as his/her name implies...
rmpryor 6 months ago
@infectedsimpson And religion mutilates genitalia and makes it legal by calling it "circumcision".
Stephen15Donnelly 6 months ago
@infectedsimpson enjoy your fairy tales
mysterymediacorp 6 months ago
@mysterymediacorp get damned!
infectedsimpson 4 months ago
Rational response squad not existing? Well, I guess if Greydon's dream is really as good as it sounds I'd be ok with it... but until then, HELL NO.
BlissfullAwareness 7 months ago
I'm an Atheist that lives in the bible belt..
batistaker123 7 months ago 12
Love you mange. Peace Out!
1CountryIndivisible 7 months ago
Wow- did you sample Cosmos? This is sick. Keep up the good work.
iceddante 7 months ago
Love the Carl Sagan sample.
s0cializedpsych0path 7 months ago
i was reading this guys bio. man his had a hard life, going from home after home and orphaned at a young age and being part of the gang culture only to become an intelligent rapper who has a vision for a better future. Greydon Square!!!
halflifeproductionz 7 months ago 2
@halflifeproductionz Hiya, is there a book? I can't find it on internet - could you give me the title. thanks
anne43nl 7 months ago
@anne43nl wikipedia.
halflifeproductionz 7 months ago
more....MORE!!!!!
UtopiaMinor666 8 months ago
Love U Greydon Square!!!
kookoo78 8 months ago
2 superstitious minds
puercolandiacebo 9 months ago
I wish I were a member of the Rational Response Squad :( I'm rational...and I like responding to stuff.
tekbarrier 9 months ago 2
i like the scratching in the chorus
PharaohsBrew 10 months ago
I suddenly like rap...
Theasen89 10 months ago 6
WOW!! Greydon Square is the greatest!!!
MrJackRandom 11 months ago
"Instead of looking up, look inside yourself" Great advice Greydon!
muktu8989 1 year ago 31
It's amazing.
cukasi 1 year ago
♥ ♥
MrMLD72MLD 1 year ago
UHUU! COOL!
SuperJonnycapi 1 year ago
Faved =D
MrUnknownPaper 1 year ago 15