Well no because the gtr is based on Porsche gt3 which the gtr posts better times than most Porsches if not all. So when it comes to the duke it's probably the worst racing bike out. I would put the gtr up against maybe the BMW s1000RR and see what your results lead too?
I love the skyline since I was a kid but make the race fair
Worst racing bike? Do you not watch WSBK. The BMW's are mid pack at best while Ducati just won a championship with an old man named Carlos Checca. On basically the same bike as that video. 1098R.
I know the difference between production bikes and WSBK are drastic. 200+ Hp electronic aids, borderline Moto Gp tech. But to say that the1098S is the worst racing bike is down right ludicrous! BMW may win the shootouts from street magazines, but it still hasn't proven anything in Competitive racing. Even at local trackdays. The Ducs are still track assassins. WSBK is still the proving grounds for the manufactures and a 4 year old bike just won the championship.
@adiaz316 The frame and fairing might be 4 years old, rest of it is probably changed 3-4 times / season. Even in my little Sweden (not in my class though) the top series changes half the bike each season in desperation to gain advantage. WSBK and their budgets... Well, you figure it out.
When it comes to the standardbikes I don´t read shitty journalists tests. But in our races here in superstock, the Honda and BMW have succeeded admirably.
@adiaz316 The new R1 seems to heavy, the ZX might be good, but no one wants it anyway so maybe it hasn´t got the chance. The BMW though wins in rain (ABS), seems fairly easy to corner with and has ALOT of power on the straights.
Comparing the Ducati lap times from the best drivers in that series (battle of the twins) with R1000 = fail
Applies on racing only, street heros can live in their own world.
Simple fact: if u want just to drive a car normally in traffic, ur fine. If u think u are Paul walker, vin diesel and believe the fast& furious fairytale bullshit then there is someone waiting for ur kidneys.
@chalemalach Just like a truck can destroy a car. You mean to imply that you feel like running into motorcycles? Just the same as I can destroy a car in my truck! However I don't because I'm not a psychopath. By your logic no motorcyclist should survive if they ride constantly in traffic. But they do because of riding and survival skills and also the majority of drivers aren't psychopathic idiots or incompetent fools. Just a few. Are you? How do the 300 million motorcyclists survive in Asia?
simple fact: if u want just to ride a bike normally in traffic, ur fine. if u think u are valentino rossi and drive with a knife between ur teeth...well there is already someone waiting for ur kidneys
PMSL Goodbye mr motorbike... had and Atom and a S1000rr and trust me when i say the car was quicker round a track than the bike at least with me, a reasonable bike rider and a fairly good hand at the wheel, ex clubmans rally. Youve got to be very very good on a bike to do very quick laps.. But the s1000rr or any top 1000cc would simply leave 99% of cars, if you havnt ridden a 1000 dont post silly comments... they are stupid fast, forget 0-60 times too. i've not even got the clutch out! :-)
preference given to a bike,, not so much to the Ducati, but an RSV4R , against this car, given with a proper rider wins hands down,, any litre bike really.
@RETICS1 An Aprilla RSV4R is a potent machine for sure and with a "proper" rider it would be a force to be reckon with. On the other hand it=f you put a "proper" driver behind the wheel of the Caterham then that too would be a force to reckon with.
Bring your best bike with your best rider to, say, Silverstone Circuit and race against Lewis Hamilton in a McLaren and your bike will get humiliated.
@droceretik I never mentioned anything about a stock bike. I said bring your best bike with your best rider and race against the best car with the best driver and the bike would get slaughtered.
Next time pay attention and don't embellish on my statements.
@QRF11B Sorry, my mistake. I saw Lewis Hamilton and Mclaren then my brain just thought F1 driver, Formula 1 Mclaren. You can never test your theory but you can see times of prod. supercars and prod. s/bikes. Mclaren F1, Bedford Autodrome West Circuit (2004 - 06/08) 1:21.20 (6th) Tsukuba 1:04.62. It's hard to find lap times for Mclaren F1 and bikes on the same circuit. (laptimescom). Thunder Hill, best prod bike, 1:55.59. Best prod supercar, Porsche GT2 2:00.00. Look up Eastern Creek. et al
@droceretik Eastern Creek lap record Prod Superbike Daniel Stauffer (NSW) Yamaha R1 1000 1:32.982 31/08/03
3001-6000cc Paul Stokell Diablo GTR 1.33.5918 18/07/04
OVER 6000cc Nathan Pretty Holden Monaro CV8 1:33.9070 18/07/04
GT Sports Cars Daniel Gaunt Porsche GT3 997 1.32.5548 28/05/11
These are a few examples but the times demonstrate that production bikes are highly competitive against slick shod and fettled production cars. The drivers and rider are professional racers.
damp track... good how they give the bike a chance... NOT! set up as usual so car pips it. Cads a nasty little off camber go cart track if it were Silverston the bike would lap the GTR in 20 laps. GTR would be 5-10 secs slower around any international track and thats why they pick the nasty little tracks for cars vs bikes
@x6land it's hard to compare. as first it would depend alot on who is driving the car/bike. And as second the car's u name cost like more then 10x more then an normal 1000cc bike?with the same budget as those car's have u can have a really good bike with way more as the 150pk described here. and a bike is faster straightline while car's should be faster cornering i think
It's harder to steer with a car, and obviously the car driver needs to pay attention to the motorcycle driver in case he hits him or anything like that.
this isnt a legit comparison - you should have compared apples to apples. Use the BMW S1000RR with its superior ABS braking and traction control (race setting) that equals or exceeds that of the GTR and THEN you have a comparison worth discussing.
@08Tamed No it wouldnt, it beat a BWM M3 by a few seconds around 2 seconds, and the GTR is faster than an M3 and corners better as well, its also a lot lighter. Do you understand. . .
@Punjabi192 I think you misread what I typed... the BMW S1000RR is a motorcycle.... it has traction control and ABS brakes that I think would be a real test for the GTR to go up against, the rider oprating the BMW motorcycle wont have to worry about holding back throttle in the corners or in straights due to wheelies and tire slide - so I"m not sure where you got M3 from ... I was talking of switching one bike for a better bike.. not going from bike to another SLOWER car :)
@Punjabi192 I think you misread what I typed... the BMW S1000RR is a motorcycle.... it has traction control and ABS brakes that I think would be a real test for the GTR to go up against, the rider oprating the BMW motorcycle wont have to worry about holding back throttle in the corners or in straights due to wheelies and tire slide - so I"m not sure where you got M3 from ... I was talking of switching one bike for a better bike.. not going from bike to another SLOWER car :)
@Punjabi192 I think you misread what I typed... the BMW S1000RR is a motorcycle.... it has traction control and ABS brakes that I think would be a real test for the GTR to go up against, the rider oprating the BMW motorcycle wont have to worry about holding back throttle in the corners or in straights due to wheelies and tire slide - so I"m not sure where you got M3 from ... I was talking of switching one bike for a better bike.. not going from bike to another SLOWER car :)
@08Tamed Sorry dude my bad. . . i dont know ANYTHING about bikes so when you say BMW, i though car, hell i didnt even know they made bikes. . . sorry my bad.
@Punjabi192 My goodness, you didn't know BMW made bikes? India has many motorcycle manufacturers including Royal Enfield, an old British Marque. Do you know that Suzuki makes bikes and cars? Honda makes bikes, cars and generators. Yamaha bikes, pianos, organs and other musical instruments. MV Augusta, the Italian bike brand makes helicopters. Kawasaki makes bikes, jetskis, ships and aircraft. Saab makes cars and aircraft. Bridgestone makes tyres and did make bikes. Get out and about more.
@droceretik I knew about the Japanese Car makers that made bikes. I also know that Saab doesnt actually make Planes, GM did that for the Lulz. I own yamaha drumsticks, and my friend has a yamaha Drumset. My uncle owns a Kawasaki jetski. I am indian, and have visited india, and have heard of Royal Enfield. So please dont talk in a condescending tone to me, i dont know much about motorcycles, but i do know enough about them to not be an idiot.
@Punjabi192 SAAB (SAAB-SCANIA) does actually make planes. The SAAB JAS 39 Gripen is their current fighter aircraft. So they are well into aircraft manufacture. In 2010, the BMW group produced 1,481,253 automobiles and 112,271 motorcycles across all its brands. BMW started making motorcycles first in 1923 then cars in 1828. BMW currently makes the most powerful and quickest volume production motorcycle. They are common on roads in western countries and have been since the 70's.
I would say by the look of the track you would loose 8 to 10 seconds a lap on the bike from personal racing experience. Ex pro rider. Cant say about the car? Car don't wheelie!
3,1 seconds is Huge. And the track is not that wet you can actually see only few corners are wet and also not THAT wet. Simply bikes are faster in straight line, cars are faster in lap times. Just compare F1 with motogp, the bikes are painfully slow in lap times against F1 ( even 30seconds per lap).
@89Slh it only takes a little bit of wetness to matter for a bike, think about the contact pad on the tires of the bike, its only as big as a tenis ball. as a car has a huge contact pad with 4 tires. so the bike has to slow down farther back before the turn as the car can slow down almost being in the turn. but yes in the end the car would still be alot quicker around the corners even if it wasnt wet, but the time distance would be a little less
@89Slh single seater racecars are 30secs slower than an F1 car nevermind a bike. Youl find bikes are usually faster laptimes on bigger tracks. Roadcars dont come close to bikes laptimes on larger tracks. So yer comment is bullshit mostly
@nutsack1888 lol single seater.... you have no clue. Nevermind a bike? A F1 kills a motogp on any track with any conditions. Gp2, A1gp, supergt cars are all faster than motogp.
From sepang circuit:
Formula 1: J.P. Montoya BMW Williams 1:34.223 (2004) GT500: Takashi Kogure TAKATA DOME NSX 1'54.306 (2007) MotoGP: C. Stoner Ducati 2:02.108 (2007) GT300: Kazuya Oshima apr MR-S 2'06.584 (2007)
LOL look how slow the motogp is comparing to the F1 and also only slightly faster than GT300
the most relevant difference it's the weight for the bike and the adherence for the car, and that's why we can't compare ... it's like to compares litres with mile, ridiculous
Why can't these "serious" motorbike and car shows on youtube put up a real motorbike vs car race on a DRY track ? A motorbike has a lot more trouble breaking on a wet surface opposed to a car.
Even though the r35 is not officailly a 'skyline' its a direct desendent of the r32,33,34 skylines -so thats what i call it. Suprised the bike got so close in the wet .
@srad66 The skylines were called ''skylines'' simply because they had inline engines.The R35 has a V engine so it is only called the GT-R.And its not a direct descendent of the skylines but of the GT-Rs.
@besttyler Previous Nissan GTR's have all been know as skylines starting with the r32 gtr (released in 1989) , r33 gtr, r34 gtr . All of them with twin turbo sixes , awd , 4 seats , with the stove plate rear lights Haven't heard that theory on the Skyline name before lol
It's still not a fair comparison. You lose the GTR on a corner worst thing you might do is graze a barrier. Bike's a different story, especially when it's wet. Remove the rain aspect and then it might be closer to fair. I wouldn't take a bike on the freeway in the wet much less a track.
As many have pointed out here its ALWAYS slanted in favour of the car. A similar technological bike would be the BMWS1000R, place this on a dry track and go head to head. Or put mr smarmy in a AC Cobra where driver skill plays a massive part and the rider on a 1098r and that would be more comparable. Plus any fool can drive a nissan gtr quick... try the same on a bike and youll learn that ability and skill dont necessarily go hand in hand. An amusing comparison.. but no more im afraid.
wet track, and the bike isn't exactly the quickest one, should of put the new BMW on the track to compromise for the straights as bikes lack in corners
@JOSHWF2 The bmw hadnt won on a wet track, maybe not even on a dry track. Cars are just superior to bikes in laptimes due to tracks having more corners than long straights. Bikes are more fun though, especially to watch. MotoGP over F1 any day.
@vithaj92 And btw, people shoudnt get all upset by some simple comparisons. If lap times is everything you care about, then you should enter a racing league not buy a roadgoing machine.
I’m sorry but this is not a fair match up!!! The GTR is one of the most finely crafted road cars in history. A better match up would be a S1000RR or Desmosedici RR. Also the car driver should have turn all the driver aids in the GTR off to experience what it is like to be on the edge, like you are when you ride a fast motorcycle. Finally I would like to point out that if you let tubby have a go on the bike he would end up in the armco while the bike rider would piss on his if he drove the GTR!!
what if the turns were sharper and the road was not as wide - like a real street? would that make it even more in favour of the car or would it help the bike?
I'd choose the Nissan because I LOVE THOSE CARS. They're the best supercars in the world because they cost $80,000 and that's chump change in Lambo's world.
Yeah what a good idea..."let's put the most torquier superbike of the market in wet conditions against a 4 wheeler..." what a bunch of fags..."a little bit in favor of the car they say, what a joke, it's totally fake, fuck you and your stupid broadcast autocar, every one can brake lately in a car, even my grand mother could do so....your just jealous because you can't brake hard in wet conditions like the ducati kid in this video. Buch of fags with no skills..bikes are for men
why are dummies comparing an apple to an orange? How do you know which if the car is orange or the bike is orange? The phrase apple and orange is use to indicative false analogy between two item.
@nbaplayerlebron That is not because you do not understand the purpose of the debate that you have to call people dummies. It is not polite and an unncessary agression on people you do not even know.
The purpose is to debate about racing performance. And in that area you can compare any vehicle. Might it be a car, bike, crazy racing tank, dragster etc...
A definition of a race: "a competition in which all the competitors try to be the fastest and to finish first."
bike vs car in straight line/long corners = bike always beats car
car vs bike on twisty roads/track = car always wins
to ride a bike takes a lot more skill to ride a car, generally it depends on the driver/rider on a track wich has both aspects mentioned above.
personally...i prefer bikes over cars... more fun, put a huge grin and listening and feeling that enginge scream on your little pocket rocket between your legs is better than sex!!
Mr car driver, that bike was playing about, no serious riding there. I got an 1198s and you wouldnt even beat me in a race. Your statistics are bullshit. Race someone thats determined not to let you win. The bikes far more capable than most riders. Look at the 1198 that beat the ferrari round the track by 2 seconds. My bike got barely legal race tyres ast standard, the grip is wsb because its the control tyre they use. You need racing cars to beat a properly ridden 1198s.
What most bikers do not understand is that in physics not only the surface vs weight has to be taken into account but also the number of contact points. The car has four, if one fails 3 are left. If a bike looses one point it goes straight into the trees... That is why I easily smoke bikers in mountain/country roads. Bikes are good only in highways and large roads with a smooth road surface. Basically where little skill is needed.
@iAmWr3ckless No. I am saying bikes can make a difference only where little skill is needed. To me in highways little skill is needed to go fast. On a highway the machine has more importance than the pilot. A poorly skilled guy in a Toyota Supra will easily outrun the best pilot in the world driving a Peugeot 309GTI.
Put them in a mountain road it'll be different with the same cars.
Take this exemple to illustrate my point: which competition requires more skill: rally or formula 1?
@Victortrotska What? It was around a race track, not the wide smooth roads you describe. Seems like bikes make a difference where a lot of skill is required as well, i.e a racetrack.
@SondeBeeches Both the Ferrari and the Nissan would perform much better in narrow bumpy roads than most bikes. As I said the point is not who is better than who. It is as simple as: a car has four contact points, the bike only one.
@SondeBeeches I would prefer the GTR. But then again I would prefer other cars like a Honda S2000 or a dream car like the Peugeot 205T16 or a Lancia Delta S4 Stradale!
@Victortrotska Rally I guess, I get your point but I always thought that bikes were faster in curves, as they say in the video the problem was the breaking, and plus the road was wet..
sooo not fair car has 4 wheel drive on a wet track and the bike srtuggles because of it in the corners! and the car costs 5 times as much i would go with the car anyway though the nissan gtr was rated best luxury sports car of 2011
this video actually shows why I love circuit racing so much more than drag racing in a straight line it comes down to power and driver to an extent but throw in some turns and you see who the better car and driver is obviously that was a bike and not a car but you can see no matter how ridiculously fast that 1098 is the gtr is right back in the game in the turns
i think this is stupid the original video was meant to highlight caterham this isn't part 2 because there's no caterham. this is i got some crap and lets get some attention the stats are also unfair so this is shit.
Everyone knows bikes are only really strong in the dry. Wet is for drifting. If it was dry the bike would have a better chance. /watch?v=VPNs3v4m7TA
OllyKilo 1 week ago in playlist Cars
both are sexy and both will be in my garage one day
TreeSniffer2 2 weeks ago
Well no because the gtr is based on Porsche gt3 which the gtr posts better times than most Porsches if not all. So when it comes to the duke it's probably the worst racing bike out. I would put the gtr up against maybe the BMW s1000RR and see what your results lead too?
I love the skyline since I was a kid but make the race fair
nirestevie 3 weeks ago
@nirestevie
Worst racing bike? Do you not watch WSBK. The BMW's are mid pack at best while Ducati just won a championship with an old man named Carlos Checca. On basically the same bike as that video. 1098R.
adiaz316 3 weeks ago
@adiaz316 "Basically the same bike"??? Have YOU watched WSBK? They share the name, design of the fairings and.. well, no thats about it.
The bikes in WSBK [no matter the brand] are light years from the street bikes. If anything, the BMW is the with least gap between the two.
Comparing standard bikes, the Honda and the BMW seems to be a little bit sharper than the rest.
The video sucks though. As many has said the bike´s without a chance in the wet.
/ Rookie600
SuperDukeSthlm 3 days ago
@SuperDukeSthlm
I know the difference between production bikes and WSBK are drastic. 200+ Hp electronic aids, borderline Moto Gp tech. But to say that the1098S is the worst racing bike is down right ludicrous! BMW may win the shootouts from street magazines, but it still hasn't proven anything in Competitive racing. Even at local trackdays. The Ducs are still track assassins. WSBK is still the proving grounds for the manufactures and a 4 year old bike just won the championship.
adiaz316 2 days ago
@adiaz316 The frame and fairing might be 4 years old, rest of it is probably changed 3-4 times / season. Even in my little Sweden (not in my class though) the top series changes half the bike each season in desperation to gain advantage. WSBK and their budgets... Well, you figure it out.
When it comes to the standardbikes I don´t read shitty journalists tests. But in our races here in superstock, the Honda and BMW have succeeded admirably.
SuperDukeSthlm 2 days ago
@adiaz316 The new R1 seems to heavy, the ZX might be good, but no one wants it anyway so maybe it hasn´t got the chance. The BMW though wins in rain (ABS), seems fairly easy to corner with and has ALOT of power on the straights.
Comparing the Ducati lap times from the best drivers in that series (battle of the twins) with R1000 = fail
Applies on racing only, street heros can live in their own world.
SuperDukeSthlm 2 days ago
i think the skyline GTR super car.... the duke Rubbish
if they had of picked a bike that was good the car wouldnt have stood a chance!
nirestevie 1 month ago
@nirestevie and if they picked a car the bike wouldnt have stood a chance it works both ways
paganizondaftw 3 weeks ago
Condition is bad
Unequal!!!!
kuromayo125 1 month ago 3
why do people compare the nissan GTR to every thing?
554sony 1 month ago
@chalemalach.
Simple fact: if u want just to drive a car normally in traffic, ur fine. If u think u are Paul walker, vin diesel and believe the fast& furious fairytale bullshit then there is someone waiting for ur kidneys.
Chipmunk942 1 month ago
4:53 onwards - that is all you need to watch.
aiiDz 2 months ago 17
on the road the car wouldnt stand a chance
Tomp0309 2 months ago
@Tomp0309
u mean on a road with rain or snow, bumps and dirt or lets say such absurd things like curves?
yeah, no chance for the car (irony off)
chalemalach 2 months ago
@chalemalach u mean a road with traffic? lol
meda789 2 months ago
@meda789
exactly...a road with traffic where every vehicle can destroy a bike just by touching it
chalemalach 2 months ago
@chalemalach Just like a truck can destroy a car. You mean to imply that you feel like running into motorcycles? Just the same as I can destroy a car in my truck! However I don't because I'm not a psychopath. By your logic no motorcyclist should survive if they ride constantly in traffic. But they do because of riding and survival skills and also the majority of drivers aren't psychopathic idiots or incompetent fools. Just a few. Are you? How do the 300 million motorcyclists survive in Asia?
droceretik 2 months ago
@droceretik
simple fact: if u want just to ride a bike normally in traffic, ur fine. if u think u are valentino rossi and drive with a knife between ur teeth...well there is already someone waiting for ur kidneys
chalemalach 2 months ago
@chalemalach How long have you been riding?
droceretik 2 months ago
i bet the nissan can hold more beer and bodies
MsCrappants 2 months ago
Amezing bike......m like it speed
bhatti730 3 months ago
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biplane89 3 months ago
It's retarded how people say its not a skyline. TELL ME WHY ITS NOT A SKYLINE.WHEN IT IS!
solidboredness 3 months ago
i no its not a skyline
theTuxedogamming 3 months ago
PMSL Goodbye mr motorbike... had and Atom and a S1000rr and trust me when i say the car was quicker round a track than the bike at least with me, a reasonable bike rider and a fairly good hand at the wheel, ex clubmans rally. Youve got to be very very good on a bike to do very quick laps.. But the s1000rr or any top 1000cc would simply leave 99% of cars, if you havnt ridden a 1000 dont post silly comments... they are stupid fast, forget 0-60 times too. i've not even got the clutch out! :-)
dazzassti 3 months ago
you could sell the nissan and buy 10 ducatis
luddaman924wsi 3 months ago
@luddaman924wsi Aah someone who gets it! :D
Gill1am 3 months ago
@luddaman924wsi LOL
EVERLIVERPOOL 2 months ago
its not a SKYLINE!
usaqamadeeq 3 months ago 26
@usaqamadeeq it's not called skyline but it is obviously a the last "skyline" after the r32,r33,r34 ...
geforce5700fx 3 months ago
@usaqamadeeq
I know, I was thinking the same thing, just the moment as I saw this
VinneSoulTrain 3 months ago
@usaqamadeeq when i heard him saying 'skyline' it made say out loudly: "wtf?"
maxranger2 1 week ago
@usaqamadeeq skyline gtr35..
aronhtgmail 1 week ago
preference given to a bike,, not so much to the Ducati, but an RSV4R , against this car, given with a proper rider wins hands down,, any litre bike really.
RETICS1 3 months ago
@RETICS1 An Aprilla RSV4R is a potent machine for sure and with a "proper" rider it would be a force to be reckon with. On the other hand it=f you put a "proper" driver behind the wheel of the Caterham then that too would be a force to reckon with.
Bring your best bike with your best rider to, say, Silverstone Circuit and race against Lewis Hamilton in a McLaren and your bike will get humiliated.
QRF11B 3 months ago
@QRF11B What on earth have F1 cars got to do with production road cars and motorcycles? F1 would beat any stock car and bike. What a rubbish remark.
droceretik 2 months ago
@droceretik I never mentioned anything about a stock bike. I said bring your best bike with your best rider and race against the best car with the best driver and the bike would get slaughtered.
Next time pay attention and don't embellish on my statements.
QRF11B 2 months ago
@QRF11B Sorry, my mistake. I saw Lewis Hamilton and Mclaren then my brain just thought F1 driver, Formula 1 Mclaren. You can never test your theory but you can see times of prod. supercars and prod. s/bikes. Mclaren F1, Bedford Autodrome West Circuit (2004 - 06/08) 1:21.20 (6th) Tsukuba 1:04.62. It's hard to find lap times for Mclaren F1 and bikes on the same circuit. (laptimescom). Thunder Hill, best prod bike, 1:55.59. Best prod supercar, Porsche GT2 2:00.00. Look up Eastern Creek. et al
droceretik 2 months ago
@droceretik Eastern Creek lap record Prod Superbike Daniel Stauffer (NSW) Yamaha R1 1000 1:32.982 31/08/03
3001-6000cc Paul Stokell Diablo GTR 1.33.5918 18/07/04
OVER 6000cc Nathan Pretty Holden Monaro CV8 1:33.9070 18/07/04
GT Sports Cars Daniel Gaunt Porsche GT3 997 1.32.5548 28/05/11
These are a few examples but the times demonstrate that production bikes are highly competitive against slick shod and fettled production cars. The drivers and rider are professional racers.
droceretik 2 months ago
this car was fast enough to beat bugatti veyron and win a super drag in 1st place
MrCretinu 3 months ago
The obvious choice, The nissan GTR.
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504Gdub 3 months ago
bike
deadliftdux 3 months ago
damp track... good how they give the bike a chance... NOT! set up as usual so car pips it. Cads a nasty little off camber go cart track if it were Silverston the bike would lap the GTR in 20 laps. GTR would be 5-10 secs slower around any international track and thats why they pick the nasty little tracks for cars vs bikes
nutsack1888 3 months ago
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nutsack1888 3 months ago
stupid guy , its not skyline u idiot , first learn wuts the name of the car then come and talk ab it ....!!!
goodpersianboyuk 4 months ago
not a skyline dum ass r 35 its still in training the beast is still not unleashed u cunt!!
chuno6 4 months ago
The Race Was Wet!!!!!!
lykos30 4 months ago
ZR1 would stomp both
2girls1freak 4 months ago
@2girls1freak I don't think so
RaskVousSalue 4 months ago
wank car,cool bike,wet track
what was the point.
It didn't prove anything
urbantiger66 4 months ago
@urbantiger66 The track is not that wet, a perfectly dry track wouldn't make a 3.1 seconds difference.
Still the bike is the best bang for buck.
RaskVousSalue 4 months ago
this guy is the most boring presenter on earth!
perfectendinguk 4 months ago
I want to see thes bikes to a ferarri enzo or SLR or carrera GT. on a track with corners and straight.
I dont no much about bikes (only know the R1) because I am always a Car fan
But do anyone know which would be faster?
x6land 4 months ago
@x6land All those marvellous cars you mentioned would beat the crap out of any bike, including the 2wheel nonsense-screaming R1. So quit worrying!
Firemarioflower 4 months ago
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@x6land All those marvellous cars you mentioned would beat the crap out of any bike, including the 2wheel nonsense-screaming R1. So quit worrying!
Firemarioflower 4 months ago
@x6land it's hard to compare. as first it would depend alot on who is driving the car/bike. And as second the car's u name cost like more then 10x more then an normal 1000cc bike?with the same budget as those car's have u can have a really good bike with way more as the 150pk described here. and a bike is faster straightline while car's should be faster cornering i think
bramballetjes 4 months ago
Wet track with
a bike? How did they find someone willing to race like that on a bike? This is retarded. Good show moto
Samsonblp 4 months ago in playlist bike races
I found it really difficult not to fall asleep because of his commentary.
piromantm 4 months ago
They should have done this test on a Dry track really, GTR's are fast anyways, But it's the computer driving it most of the time.
We allready know a track with many strights a bike is faster and a track with many corners a car is faster.
j0rzeh 5 months ago
Laws of physics Bike can't corner as fast as a car due to tire contact area...same for power to weight ratio bike has advantage there.
Nukem962001 5 months ago
It's harder to steer with a car, and obviously the car driver needs to pay attention to the motorcycle driver in case he hits him or anything like that.
Player6331 5 months ago
@Player6331 Steering a motorcycle is like 10 times harder.
CrowbarOwner 5 months ago
It's not a skyline
nevets7921 5 months ago
this isnt a legit comparison - you should have compared apples to apples. Use the BMW S1000RR with its superior ABS braking and traction control (race setting) that equals or exceeds that of the GTR and THEN you have a comparison worth discussing.
08Tamed 5 months ago
@08Tamed No it wouldnt, it beat a BWM M3 by a few seconds around 2 seconds, and the GTR is faster than an M3 and corners better as well, its also a lot lighter. Do you understand. . .
Punjabi192 4 months ago
@Punjabi192 I think you misread what I typed... the BMW S1000RR is a motorcycle.... it has traction control and ABS brakes that I think would be a real test for the GTR to go up against, the rider oprating the BMW motorcycle wont have to worry about holding back throttle in the corners or in straights due to wheelies and tire slide - so I"m not sure where you got M3 from ... I was talking of switching one bike for a better bike.. not going from bike to another SLOWER car :)
08Tamed 4 months ago
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@Punjabi192 I think you misread what I typed... the BMW S1000RR is a motorcycle.... it has traction control and ABS brakes that I think would be a real test for the GTR to go up against, the rider oprating the BMW motorcycle wont have to worry about holding back throttle in the corners or in straights due to wheelies and tire slide - so I"m not sure where you got M3 from ... I was talking of switching one bike for a better bike.. not going from bike to another SLOWER car :)
08Tamed 4 months ago
@Punjabi192 I think you misread what I typed... the BMW S1000RR is a motorcycle.... it has traction control and ABS brakes that I think would be a real test for the GTR to go up against, the rider oprating the BMW motorcycle wont have to worry about holding back throttle in the corners or in straights due to wheelies and tire slide - so I"m not sure where you got M3 from ... I was talking of switching one bike for a better bike.. not going from bike to another SLOWER car :)
08Tamed 4 months ago
@08Tamed Sorry dude my bad. . . i dont know ANYTHING about bikes so when you say BMW, i though car, hell i didnt even know they made bikes. . . sorry my bad.
Punjabi192 4 months ago
@Punjabi192 My goodness, you didn't know BMW made bikes? India has many motorcycle manufacturers including Royal Enfield, an old British Marque. Do you know that Suzuki makes bikes and cars? Honda makes bikes, cars and generators. Yamaha bikes, pianos, organs and other musical instruments. MV Augusta, the Italian bike brand makes helicopters. Kawasaki makes bikes, jetskis, ships and aircraft. Saab makes cars and aircraft. Bridgestone makes tyres and did make bikes. Get out and about more.
droceretik 2 months ago
@droceretik I knew about the Japanese Car makers that made bikes. I also know that Saab doesnt actually make Planes, GM did that for the Lulz. I own yamaha drumsticks, and my friend has a yamaha Drumset. My uncle owns a Kawasaki jetski. I am indian, and have visited india, and have heard of Royal Enfield. So please dont talk in a condescending tone to me, i dont know much about motorcycles, but i do know enough about them to not be an idiot.
Punjabi192 2 months ago
@Punjabi192 SAAB (SAAB-SCANIA) does actually make planes. The SAAB JAS 39 Gripen is their current fighter aircraft. So they are well into aircraft manufacture. In 2010, the BMW group produced 1,481,253 automobiles and 112,271 motorcycles across all its brands. BMW started making motorcycles first in 1923 then cars in 1828. BMW currently makes the most powerful and quickest volume production motorcycle. They are common on roads in western countries and have been since the 70's.
droceretik 2 months ago
I would say by the look of the track you would loose 8 to 10 seconds a lap on the bike from personal racing experience. Ex pro rider. Cant say about the car? Car don't wheelie!
firebladeclements 5 months ago
The car won by 3.1 seconds. I'd take the car...
EdwardSinclair 5 months ago
Josh Brookes does a 1:28 in BSB so keep dreaming mr car man....lol
arthur9182 5 months ago
so the bike won?
mjavor 5 months ago
3,1 seconds is Huge. And the track is not that wet you can actually see only few corners are wet and also not THAT wet. Simply bikes are faster in straight line, cars are faster in lap times. Just compare F1 with motogp, the bikes are painfully slow in lap times against F1 ( even 30seconds per lap).
89Slh 5 months ago
@89Slh it only takes a little bit of wetness to matter for a bike, think about the contact pad on the tires of the bike, its only as big as a tenis ball. as a car has a huge contact pad with 4 tires. so the bike has to slow down farther back before the turn as the car can slow down almost being in the turn. but yes in the end the car would still be alot quicker around the corners even if it wasnt wet, but the time distance would be a little less
UpShift82 5 months ago
@89Slh single seater racecars are 30secs slower than an F1 car nevermind a bike. Youl find bikes are usually faster laptimes on bigger tracks. Roadcars dont come close to bikes laptimes on larger tracks. So yer comment is bullshit mostly
nutsack1888 3 months ago
@nutsack1888 lol single seater.... you have no clue. Nevermind a bike? A F1 kills a motogp on any track with any conditions. Gp2, A1gp, supergt cars are all faster than motogp.
From sepang circuit:
Formula 1: J.P. Montoya BMW Williams 1:34.223 (2004) GT500: Takashi Kogure TAKATA DOME NSX 1'54.306 (2007) MotoGP: C. Stoner Ducati 2:02.108 (2007) GT300: Kazuya Oshima apr MR-S 2'06.584 (2007)
LOL look how slow the motogp is comparing to the F1 and also only slightly faster than GT300
89Slh 3 months ago
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@89Slh so you agree with me then. see my other comments
nutsack1888 3 months ago
About as pointless as comparing a shag with a shit, in the right circumstances both could be the best thing in the world :-)
greebo954 5 months ago 9
Still rather have the bike!!
3carnforth 5 months ago 15
why choose? Just own both like I do ;)
stormyboy66 5 months ago
@stormyboy66 The question is, can you drive them fast? :-p
afterGR 5 months ago
@afterGR The question is,have you enought brain to don't drive them fast,when road don't allow it.
TANEVmedenRUDNIK 5 months ago
@TANEVmedenRUDNIK Τhey will always be posers to drive them fast when conditions dont allow it....
afterGR 5 months ago
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djphathill 3 months ago
the most relevant difference it's the weight for the bike and the adherence for the car, and that's why we can't compare ... it's like to compares litres with mile, ridiculous
darytul 5 months ago
Why can't these "serious" motorbike and car shows on youtube put up a real motorbike vs car race on a DRY track ? A motorbike has a lot more trouble breaking on a wet surface opposed to a car.
Smennyboy 5 months ago
All the guys on here stating they would have got the bike round faster-stop dreaming,you wouldn't get within 20 seconds of the time set.
I'm a car fan bit I would have the education over the pig ugly gtr any day of the week
beastofackworth 5 months ago
Even though the r35 is not officailly a 'skyline' its a direct desendent of the r32,33,34 skylines -so thats what i call it. Suprised the bike got so close in the wet .
srad66 6 months ago
@srad66 The skylines were called ''skylines'' simply because they had inline engines.The R35 has a V engine so it is only called the GT-R.And its not a direct descendent of the skylines but of the GT-Rs.
besttyler 6 months ago
@besttyler Previous Nissan GTR's have all been know as skylines starting with the r32 gtr (released in 1989) , r33 gtr, r34 gtr . All of them with twin turbo sixes , awd , 4 seats , with the stove plate rear lights Haven't heard that theory on the Skyline name before lol
srad66 6 months ago
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besttyler 6 months ago
It's still not a fair comparison. You lose the GTR on a corner worst thing you might do is graze a barrier. Bike's a different story, especially when it's wet. Remove the rain aspect and then it might be closer to fair. I wouldn't take a bike on the freeway in the wet much less a track.
vendediesel 6 months ago
As many have pointed out here its ALWAYS slanted in favour of the car. A similar technological bike would be the BMWS1000R, place this on a dry track and go head to head. Or put mr smarmy in a AC Cobra where driver skill plays a massive part and the rider on a 1098r and that would be more comparable. Plus any fool can drive a nissan gtr quick... try the same on a bike and youll learn that ability and skill dont necessarily go hand in hand. An amusing comparison.. but no more im afraid.
BeeeAitchPeee 6 months ago
wet track, and the bike isn't exactly the quickest one, should of put the new BMW on the track to compromise for the straights as bikes lack in corners
JOSHWF2 6 months ago
@JOSHWF2 The bmw hadnt won on a wet track, maybe not even on a dry track. Cars are just superior to bikes in laptimes due to tracks having more corners than long straights. Bikes are more fun though, especially to watch. MotoGP over F1 any day.
vithaj92 6 months ago
@vithaj92 And btw, people shoudnt get all upset by some simple comparisons. If lap times is everything you care about, then you should enter a racing league not buy a roadgoing machine.
vithaj92 6 months ago
@vithaj92 Nah I'd reckon it'd beat it, on a dry and to make up on the straights, possible, as there was what 3 secs apart
JOSHWF2 6 months ago
this is pathetic, bikes can turn 100x better BUT not on a wet track! WTF were these guys thinking
socal248300 6 months ago
How stupid can one be to compare a bike to a car on a wet track? Why not compare in the snow?
HVMSSamtex 6 months ago
OMG Ducati it's shit ...Kawasaki BEST MOTOR EVER <3
CR3ATIV3S 6 months ago
This test is so FAIL on so many aspects...
Jazzmaster71 6 months ago
THE R35 GT-R is not a skyline Biatch! Get your facts straight
SlashRfnR 6 months ago
@SlashRfnR its still a skyline in japan
integratt 6 months ago
the bike was faster , the rider was holen back a little bit because the track was wet
bikerty67 6 months ago
The track was wet, the motorbike can't do nothing on a slippery asphalt vs a car.
If the car slip nothing happen, if the motorbike slip you are done.
iammabbella 6 months ago
These fucking adverts...
intheshitter 6 months ago
Nissan GTR awesome car
oemartinio 6 months ago
Now test them on a dry-track and make it S1000RR vs Nissan GT-R or even better.Ducati 1198R Corse versus the Nissan
MDIVISIONRULES 6 months ago
5:00. Goodbye.
allater3 6 months ago
WET TRACK!, the bike would of been more than 4-5 seconds faster if those wet patches were not there. Simple as that really.
ilikerossi 6 months ago
the car is like a gazele and the bike is like a chita! the bike is much faster but its slower in the curves!
jnmmachado93 6 months ago
@jnmmachado93
estoy deacuerdo la moto tiene mucho mas pique en rectas y salidas peroa l momento d ela curva gana la traccion del automovil
humectedcococho 6 months ago
I’m sorry but this is not a fair match up!!! The GTR is one of the most finely crafted road cars in history. A better match up would be a S1000RR or Desmosedici RR. Also the car driver should have turn all the driver aids in the GTR off to experience what it is like to be on the edge, like you are when you ride a fast motorcycle. Finally I would like to point out that if you let tubby have a go on the bike he would end up in the armco while the bike rider would piss on his if he drove the GTR!!
pitrideradz 6 months ago
bikes suck cock.
mentalqube 6 months ago
@mentalqube nao concordo !
michellevictor84 6 months ago
what if the turns were sharper and the road was not as wide - like a real street? would that make it even more in favour of the car or would it help the bike?
powpanda 6 months ago
my fav 1nd is the mitsubishi evo 8 mr fq400 nd ((suzuki gsx r-1000 k7 or suzuki hayabusa))ill pick this over those!!
Harold563 6 months ago
I'd choose the Nissan because I LOVE THOSE CARS. They're the best supercars in the world because they cost $80,000 and that's chump change in Lambo's world.
D13fledermause 6 months ago
regardless of the outcome i'd still have the bike
twistingthrottlenz 6 months ago
bro.. its the Rider man..
totoybuang82 6 months ago 3
don't ride a ducati with yamaha suit. just... just, don't do it.
ToeXx 6 months ago 113
@ToeXx why not???
roguestalker 6 months ago
@ToeXx I was about to post a comment "the only reason why the ducati lost was because of that Yamaha suit!". hahaha..
ibanezjeff28 6 months ago
@ibanezjeff28 yeah because with an Yamaha R1 he would win ;)
kevin06171 6 months ago
@ToeXx yes, because ducati is homo (gay)
walteratomspalter 4 months ago
fuck yeah
desukedo666 6 months ago
just run this again on a COMPLETELY DRRRRRYYYYY track. AWD is designed for snow and such... the 1098 is NOOOOTTTTTT.
MrFourKicks 6 months ago
Yeah what a good idea..."let's put the most torquier superbike of the market in wet conditions against a 4 wheeler..." what a bunch of fags..."a little bit in favor of the car they say, what a joke, it's totally fake, fuck you and your stupid broadcast autocar, every one can brake lately in a car, even my grand mother could do so....your just jealous because you can't brake hard in wet conditions like the ducati kid in this video. Buch of fags with no skills..bikes are for men
desperamika 6 months ago
Fuck all you faggots. Real men drive vans
G3Geza 6 months ago
@G3Geza No! A real man would cruise in a tricy! lol
Victortrotska 6 months ago
ok as much as i love ducatis... its not the sportyist bike... i mean why didnt they get a yamaha R1 or suzuki GSXR 1000 or even the freakin honda...
nara94 6 months ago
keep in mind that bike is under 20k and the car is over 75k. i wont think 65k is a fair price for brakes.
warmerstill 6 months ago
why are dummies comparing an apple to an orange? How do you know which if the car is orange or the bike is orange? The phrase apple and orange is use to indicative false analogy between two item.
nbaplayerlebron 6 months ago
@nbaplayerlebron That is not because you do not understand the purpose of the debate that you have to call people dummies. It is not polite and an unncessary agression on people you do not even know.
The purpose is to debate about racing performance. And in that area you can compare any vehicle. Might it be a car, bike, crazy racing tank, dragster etc...
A definition of a race: "a competition in which all the competitors try to be the fastest and to finish first."
Victortrotska 6 months ago
bike vs car in straight line/long corners = bike always beats car
car vs bike on twisty roads/track = car always wins
to ride a bike takes a lot more skill to ride a car, generally it depends on the driver/rider on a track wich has both aspects mentioned above.
personally...i prefer bikes over cars... more fun, put a huge grin and listening and feeling that enginge scream on your little pocket rocket between your legs is better than sex!!
arrowbyname 6 months ago
Bikes are the cheapest way of going VERY fast. They should do a test based on price. 10 grand car v 10 grand bike.
rnrbishop 6 months ago
w0w this is a nice Ducati
lkaizer11 6 months ago
Mr car driver, that bike was playing about, no serious riding there. I got an 1198s and you wouldnt even beat me in a race. Your statistics are bullshit. Race someone thats determined not to let you win. The bikes far more capable than most riders. Look at the 1198 that beat the ferrari round the track by 2 seconds. My bike got barely legal race tyres ast standard, the grip is wsb because its the control tyre they use. You need racing cars to beat a properly ridden 1198s.
benjyboba 6 months ago
I love cars and I love bikes, given the choice I prefer to be on a bike coz it gives me more of a grin, who feckin cares which is faster......
billydicko 6 months ago
people need to consider the fact that IT WAS A WET TRACK and it matters A LOT for the bike.
iAmWr3ckless 6 months ago 81
@iAmWr3ckless
Even worse - its a moist track
ScramUK 6 months ago
@iAmWr3ckless The tracks as dry as your mom???? Bikes cant corner so stop making excuses for him ;)
stevograndio 4 months ago
What most bikers do not understand is that in physics not only the surface vs weight has to be taken into account but also the number of contact points. The car has four, if one fails 3 are left. If a bike looses one point it goes straight into the trees... That is why I easily smoke bikers in mountain/country roads. Bikes are good only in highways and large roads with a smooth road surface. Basically where little skill is needed.
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska so you're saying riding bikes require little skill?
iAmWr3ckless 6 months ago
@iAmWr3ckless No. I am saying bikes can make a difference only where little skill is needed. To me in highways little skill is needed to go fast. On a highway the machine has more importance than the pilot. A poorly skilled guy in a Toyota Supra will easily outrun the best pilot in the world driving a Peugeot 309GTI.
Put them in a mountain road it'll be different with the same cars.
Take this exemple to illustrate my point: which competition requires more skill: rally or formula 1?
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska Maybe you didn't see the ducati 1198s vs ferrari 458 video done by motortrend?
SondeBeeches 6 months ago
@SondeBeeches I just watched it and that further illustrates my point: bikes are only good as I said, in wide smooth roads.
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska What? It was around a race track, not the wide smooth roads you describe. Seems like bikes make a difference where a lot of skill is required as well, i.e a racetrack.
SondeBeeches 6 months ago
@SondeBeeches A race track is not wide and smooth? lol That is exactly what a race track is: wide and smooth.
Maybe in your country/town mountain roads are as wide and smooth as a race track, in my area (the Alps) they are not.
There are bumps, the road is not flat, and it is not wide at all...
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska But then again, neither the nissan or ferrari would be ideal for a narrow, bumpy road
SondeBeeches 6 months ago
@SondeBeeches Both the Ferrari and the Nissan would perform much better in narrow bumpy roads than most bikes. As I said the point is not who is better than who. It is as simple as: a car has four contact points, the bike only one.
It is not personnal just science.
I respect every racer whatever their ride is.
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska One more question: Would you prefer the GTR or a corvette zr1?
SondeBeeches 6 months ago
@SondeBeeches I would prefer the GTR. But then again I would prefer other cars like a Honda S2000 or a dream car like the Peugeot 205T16 or a Lancia Delta S4 Stradale!
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska Rally I guess, I get your point but I always thought that bikes were faster in curves, as they say in the video the problem was the breaking, and plus the road was wet..
iAmWr3ckless 6 months ago
@iAmWr3ckless A car does need to slow as much as a bike. Plus if the road was wet for the bike, it was wet for the car as well right? :-)
Victortrotska 6 months ago
@Victortrotska 4 wheels against two, if one of the car's wheel loses contact with the ground it has 3 other.
iAmWr3ckless 6 months ago
sooo not fair car has 4 wheel drive on a wet track and the bike srtuggles because of it in the corners! and the car costs 5 times as much i would go with the car anyway though the nissan gtr was rated best luxury sports car of 2011
matt98787 6 months ago
Car was 3 sec faster...but that was a wet track!
ZX9Powa 6 months ago
I'd rather get into a crash in a car than a bike, lol. I love my bike tho :p
DatWunKrazieAzn 6 months ago
Track too wet, Would be nice to see the diff with a 1000cc full blown superbike, on slicks of course!!!
tedd4900 6 months ago
ITS NOT CALLED A SKYLINE YOU FOOL!
ChanticleerHegemony 6 months ago
@ChanticleerHegemony maybe in uk thats what they refer to it as like our acura rsx is there integra type r
manorboi20 6 months ago
@manorboi20 Nope its not called a "skyline" anywhere.
ChanticleerHegemony 6 months ago
@ChanticleerHegemony owell maybe he jus saying that because the r34 was a skyline
manorboi20 6 months ago
respect the bike but in a car you have more of a chance to surviving a high speed crash than in a bike so i will take a car any day =]
Dudeitsedgar 6 months ago
this video actually shows why I love circuit racing so much more than drag racing in a straight line it comes down to power and driver to an extent but throw in some turns and you see who the better car and driver is obviously that was a bike and not a car but you can see no matter how ridiculously fast that 1098 is the gtr is right back in the game in the turns
DcEvoIX 6 months ago
i think this is stupid the original video was meant to highlight caterham this isn't part 2 because there's no caterham. this is i got some crap and lets get some attention the stats are also unfair so this is shit.
timexi 6 months ago
Did he just call the GTR Skyline:-???? Cool video, btw. Lets see the dry version
ProdriveForester 6 months ago
ducati"s are pish slow.