Pt.2 of Tourist/Export kukri of Nepal compared to actual Village

[usbconnections]

I find it amusing that you suggest that Americans importing Khukuris from Nepal do so with the same intended use in mind (99.9% for collection and vanity only, the rest is for package opening)

[sirupate]

@usbconnections, lol no such comment mentioned!! lol

The whole point of this video is to show what real kukri kukri are like compared to the Khukuri House kukri.

If you like chunky kukri, that is up to you, but that is not what kukri are traditionally about lol

[Walkerofdeepsleep]

I'm soon to make a follow up on my KHHI "Sazed" custom khukuri because its been over 3 months and I've changed it a bit. It was wonderful watching and learning through your videos please comment on my video when I post it I would value it a lot. Also I love my khhi khukuri

[sirupate]

@Walkerofdeepsleep, glad you found it useful, look forward to seeing your review, please give us a shout when you do it, cheers S

[gabrielf1911]

@sirupate and you still didnt answer my first question

[sirupate]

@gabrielf1911, read the article THE GURKHA AND THE KHUKURI/KUKRI

[gabrielf1911]

@sirupate look up noss4's vids on tryn to brake the ones from the khukri house n he cant brake it he brakes through a brick with the knife an beats the spin with a mini sledge hammer seems that they work just fine

[sirupate]

@gabrielf1911, So what? a kukri was not designed for those stupid tests!! The one in his video with tin chira blade with a length of 30.5cm weighs a stupidly heavy 794 grams!! weigh weigh to heavy!!!

My Sherpa kukri has a 34cm long blade and weighs 587 grams, and cuts like a demon, perfect.

If you are genuinely interested in kukri I suggest you read this article THE GURKHA AND THE KHUKURI/KUKRI just put that heading in google! read it and learn!!

[pipsqueak87]

@gabrielf1911 it wasn't khukuri house. it was himalayan imports.

[gabrielf1911]

so are the khukuris from khukuris house the real deal or just some export crap?

[sirupate]

@gabrielf1911, they are not what I would buy

[aquanepz]

those khukuris sold to the tourists aren't the actual khukuris we use at our homes.they are just a kind of a design.And among all of the khukuris,sirupatey is the best made by the kamis and not in the factory meant to be sold to tourists.

[sirupate]

@aquanepz, You sound Nepalese, but you are so wrong, there are loads of different styles in peoples homes lol!!

If you look at old photos of Nepalese they hardly ever used sirupate/eastern kukri, the reason that people use them a bit more these days is because most modern kami can't make kukri like they used to, so a slim blade makes it lighter not better!!

Also in the old Gurkha regiments up to and including WW1 many battalions had kukri made on the advise of their Subedar.

[aquanepz]

@sirupate thats because most of the people travel and are focused on western region.I live in eastern part and we have sirupateys in majority of our houses.had you not been informed that bhojpurey khukuris are best?And for your kind info sirupatey khukuris are multi purpose khukuris and the others are mostly to chop off meats and for kill.Heavier& shorter khukuris have the power to chop off but not good & easy to use to cut down bamboos,trees and many other purpose which I cant explain here.

[sirupate]

@aquanepz, I have been to to the east in Nepal. The sirupate/Eastern style kukri has only in recent times post WW2 gained popularity,

Old photographs during the late 1800's of Rai and Limbu living in Eastern Nepal don't show them wearing Sirupate, but the broader blade types.

Infact the earliest known picture of Sirupate is of the 43rd (Assam) Regiment of Bengal (Light) Infantry (1865-1886, later 2/8th GR) circa 1880, who used Magar and Gurung tribes for their rifleman, not Rai and Limbu!!

[aquanepz]

and those khukuris are meant for killing purpose while sirupateys are for multi purpose.Thats why subedar at those times advised to use the khukuris built to kill.I don''t think I have to explain about it as you have used sirupatey in other video cutting those plants and experienced it.And would sujjest to do the same with the other khukuris.And let me know which one would you find comfortable.Cheers

[sirupate]

@aquanepz, I am afraid that is very wrong, and shows a lack of understanding about the different cross sections in design of various kukri.

As for handling and using kukri I am more experienced than even Gurkhas, and I have taught a few over the years, including the instructor of kukri to the British Gurkhas, and an Instructor to the then Royal Nepalese army.

May I suggest that you go read this article which you can find on the net. THE GURKHA AND THE KHUKURI/KUKRI, Cheers S

[TruthSmack]

I would thing wider and heavier would help it behave more like an axe? It is also suspicious that you are talking down on your competitors possibly in efforts to boost up some sales.

[sirupate]

@TruthSmack, I understand where you are coming from, however the reason why I got involved with kukri making in the first place was because of the poor quality of the kukri I received from the kukri houses in Nepal, and I have been trying ever since to find good quality kami and to have kukri made to the standards of old.

Tora has a World Wide reputation and our kukri are highly sought after, I did these videos for educational purposes, covering from pre-WW1 to current day.

[Hissatsu5]

Were can I find a good kukri for use in the outdoors ?

[sirupate]

@Hissatsu5, try Tora kukri

[ogarts]

Im just saying... Light or heavy it just boils down to personal preference, it doesn't mean that a thing is good or bad.. The kukris coming out of khukurihouse are still sturdy ( well they are still better then the ordinary immitation kukris), they are still hand forged, but rather in a more aesthetically acceptable manner (In addition, the Nepalese army woudnt use rugged poorly looking knives anyway) . If you want a work horse knife or blade there are more cheaper and available brands near you.

[ogarts]

now, im not starting an argument, but I just want to say...

[sirupate]

@ogarts, mate the Nepalese army use very poor quality khukuri, and as much as you may make excuses for the current rubbish from the khukuri houses, they are still no where near as good as they should be.

[sirupate]

@ogarts, mate the Nepalese army use very poor quality khukuri, and as much as you may make excuses for the current rubbish from the khukuri houses, they are still no where near as good as they should be.

[chibraxial]

Ok, So, your major issue with "MK2" designs (thanks for the information) is balance.

I can understand that. But is it really an issue if you use you kuk as a tool and never, ever as a weapon? What I seek first and foremost in a knife is sturdiness. I want to be able to smash it with logs , to pry wood with it, even to step on its handle as a makeshit step.That's why I don't like the "old" (mk1) design by default: I don't want the handle to endure a significant part of the mechanical constraints

[sirupate]

@chibraxial, of it is an issue, it is like buying a racing car, and then finding out it behaves like a Jeep!!! The kukri was an overall tool, and a weapon to boot. Even in Nepal for the sought of stuff you want to use your kukri for, they would used an axe!!!

[chibraxial]

From 11mm to 3mm = - 8mm

"hardly tappers"

Yeah right.

It still tapers more than your tradi 7mm to 2 mm = -5mm, even at fixed proportion your tradi is not as much tappered than the "tourist" version.

I guess it means it's cheap, quickly made crap. Sorry.

[sirupate]

@chibraxial, I really do think you are stupid, 'hardly tapers' (Bhojpure) because as SAID in the VIDEO they CUT/GRIND the POINT in, rather than having a gradual taper to the point, and at the beginning of the video I even show you the Bhojpures 'BIG THICK SPINE' which has a blade length of 26.5cm, and weighs 666 grams lol, the traditional kukri has a 27cm long blade and a weight of 443 grams!!! The Krishna kukri is far better balanced, cuts as well and weighs 223 grams less, a far superior kuk!

[chibraxial]

Funnily enough, traditional khuks were rat tang khuks.

I think the actuall "tourist" (modern) design is better, simply put.

Old doesn't mean better. Quite the opposite actually.

Since you're affiliated with a rival entreprise, I cannot take your claims for granted. For all I know, you're just trying to flame concurrence.

[sirupate]

@chibraxial, no mate they were not, they were partial tang, before you argue with someone that knows what they are talking about, you had better know what you are talking about to, which you obviously do not!

If full tang was better why do the Brigade of Gurkhas and individual Gurkhas prefer to use stick tang?

Read the below article, study it, and you may begin to get some knowledge about kukri!! Go to;

torabladesforum.co.uk; Historical section, article The-gurkha-and-the-khukuri

[chibraxial]

@sirupate

I'm sorry but this article is way too long for my interests in the kukri. It's 95% military history and 5% kukri related.

I'm not arguing about what's tradi or what's not. I just know mine as a decently authentic look to it, it is unpolished, it has a visible full tang that is tapered towards the handle's bottom, the sheath is very basic. It doesn't look like a shiny bling-bling tourist decorative piece.

link :

tinyurl . com / 5umenc7 (remove extra spaces)

What do you think?

[sirupate]

@chibraxial, It is an article about kukri, but quite in depth, and it does cover relevant history, so you would be advised to give it a good read and increase your knowledge, also have you seen my videos on WW2 kukri etc? that might help you as well.

I Have just been doing my kukri drills with a very good Mk2 kukri, 33cm long blade and 614 grams, excellent blade length to weight ratio for a Mk2, but due to the full tang handle, it doesn't handle or perform the way kukri were intended

[chibraxial]

@sirupate

And you didn't give your opinion on the kukri I linked.

[speakeasy29]

What company is selling these "tourist" kukris . just so i know not to buy off them

[sirupate]

@speakeasy29, All of the khukuri houses in Nepal I'm afraid, it requires more time to make them, more skill to make them, and therefore more money to produce, plus there is a lack of will about making the quality kukri of old, a real shame.

[HomoGnosticus]

I watched both videos and I still don't see why you think that the tourist ones are supposed to be worse than the originals.

[sirupate]

@HomoGnosticus, then your not listening properly to what I am saying, the tourist/export kukri have a poor balance, to thick a spine and no tapering,it doesn't get any worse than that.

[HomoGnosticus]

@sirupate

What do you mean by bad balance, when is a spine too thick, and why would a less tapered blade be worse?

To me it seems you just want talk bad stuff about the tourist models, as you call them.

[sirupate]

@HomoGnosticus; read this article; torabladesforum.co.uk/the-gurk­ha-and-the-khukuri-kukri_topic­1030.html

[B1oz]

@sirupate i do not know what kukris are for but in my opinion a heavier blade chopes better... ?

[sirupate]

@B1oz Not necessarily, weight to strength ratio, and you also have to consider the weight when it comes to carrying and type of usuage

[ArbyK]

All I got to say is, if it's still a good knife and works well for tough jobs, and isn't too heavy to carry, I like them. I rather the thick rather than the machetes-shaped-like-a-khukuri I see everywhere: they break too easy on me. I ordered an 8-inch bladed one from KH, looking forward to getting it. I do enjoy seeing the "real deal" you displayed here, always good to see.

[sirupate]

@ArbyK , Thank you, and yes I agree with what you are saying in many ways, but it won't be long before all you can can get are kukrihouse type kukri's, and proper kukri will be a lost art.

[ArbyK]

@sirupate True, that is true.  Bummer :[

[doncorleone7889]

Hello where do you buy authentic kukri? 

[MrWer1138]

But I see youre point with the vids you put out,I dont think I would want to fight with one as heavy as the Khukuri house one.But I have never trained to fight with a knife anyway.Im really glad you put these vids out because I have learned so much from them.Sorry I ramble Im just thinking out loud per say hahaha

[sirupate]

@MrWer1138, try Torabladesforum, cheers Sirupate

[MrWer1138]

@sirupate I will,thank you!

[MrWer1138]

Yeah I was going to ask the same question,Im still torn because I can get the one I was looking at for a fair price localy.I looked on the website of the guy I talked to and his site says 1100 grams with sheath so the blade will be a little less if thats correct,I bet not by much.I dont get to get out and camp as much as I like anymore and I collect knives because I like them so I dont think the weight will be an issue and Im not a small guy at 340(Not a fat ass either)22+yrs Judo.I dont know...

[sirupate]

@MrWer1138, It is of course up to you what you go for, but for me when I hold a kukri, I want it to be authentic in every respect.

[MrWer1138]

@sirupate I hear ya bro.I feel that way about most things in my life,Im being un practical with this and dont know why ,hahaha I really apreciate and respect you,re input thanks a million!

[mafacdf]

So, where do you buy a real khukuri?

[sirupate]

@mafacdf, any kukri made in Nepal is a real kukri, but for traditional military and village kukri, have a search on the net for a supplier.