@madhukarramteke It seems more like you are unaware of Buddhist books and knowledge. I also guess that you must not have clue about purpose being having this Shubhank karoti.....I suggest you to go to Chaitbhumi on 6 dec and get some books that might help you. Cheers
@nvas4u Indeed everyone, including Buddhist by current region definition and others should learn about Buddha - but 6 December and Chaitya Bhumi are wrong place. That is the place for "nav"-bhauddha, and not true Buddha. Buddha word is related to Buddhi/mind/intellegence. 6 December and Chaitya Bhumi is opposite to that. Just by converting your religion, you do not attain that status. Even Siddharth took many births to reach that state. You should visit Bailkuppe or other Buddha monasteries.
It is very clear to me that you do not know anything about budhha n his teachings. What Dr. babasaheb told n said in past it was all about buddha's teachings. In his ancient teachings or any literature written that time do not n didnt contain anything about veda n it did not tell anything about jaatis that brahmins n their mythology made n divided we indians into 6,000 jaatis.
What is nau baudh n other countries budhhist learn about buddha is same. Buddha told one thing in his one of teachings that sometime you have to fight to kill or destroy harmful bugs n if we do not then they will cause the problem. New mulsim or old muslim do not have any difference because they follow n read same quran. Buddhism is my India's religion n i am very proud of it.
I am glad that I do not follow outside religions (e.g. Vedic) n their stupid practices. People who visit to chait bhumi every year are real indians n natives of this country. Vedic (todays hindu) religion divides people. If Ambedkar had decided to convert all his followers to islam then today you wouldnt hv been exist.
At the time of culprit "Pushpmrut Shrungh", himself and other brahmins tried their best to destroy buddhas thoughts and his teachings n they did lots of conspiricies n today what you are talking is all came from your own people "BRAHMINs" thoughts because they want to do to spoil name of great indian personalities. What you n your people (Tilak, Savarkar and many more)have done so far to welfare bahujan people of india? NOthng
@nvas4u I am confused... If your are heart is so much filled with hatred, how come are you a buddha? Also how did you find out that I am not a Buddha and I did not know anything about Buddha? Also are you backward looking or forward? Also do you think if any terrorist if they attack, would they first find out your caste and then kill you? Also are trying to align with terrorists? Also if Ambedkar was wise enough to remain in Indian religion, are you otherwise?
@ravysaraf Firstly I do not hate anyone and seconldy I do not like those people who hate Ambedkar. People hate ambedkar who know nothing about his sacrifice. So if you are in this hatred list then why should I follow you and and why should I like you. Whay it so good about Vedic religion which should make any bahujan to stay in it...nothing. Relating creating terrorist atosphere, ask to you own people. From naded to sabarmati express all bomb blast had been planned by Brahmins only....cnd..
cnt....1..From nanded to sabarmati express all bomb blast had been planned by Brahmins. I am not saying this. Achitanand alia Jatan Chatarji said and accpted. Now tell me who creates hatred heart and environment? BRAHMINS AND THEIR BRAHMIN MEDIA pointed and assaulted innocent muslims people of india.
@nvas4u cntd... Also do you worship light (which this poem does) or darkness? Also do you know sects like Mahayana, Theravada, Vajrayana in Buddhism? Do you know earliest followers of Buddhism were from all castes in India (not magically dropped extraterristrial people) and we are their descendents? Do you know Savarkar worked against caste discrinimation? Do you know Ambedkar married a Brahmin woman? If caste system was bad, aren't ST/ST/OBC/VJ/NT/Open/Minority these new castes in India?
cnt....This hatred started from Brahmins and they are the only culprits...so you need to talk to them and ask them these questions. Ambedkar married Brahmin woman because he never followed or believed cast system so do i. All indian people divided in 6,000 casts and this had done only and only by brahmins. That why only Brahmins raise this question why Ambedkar married brahmin because brahmins hate and do not care any other jaatis. Second reason for ambedkar to married a brahmin women is, cnt..
@madhukarramteke When Buddhism is a branch of all regions grew in India, why should one oppose the other branches? What Dr. Ambedkar has taught is social equality and not-Bauddhism. If you study both Hindu and Buddha literatue, you wud find cross-links/sharing. Tark-shashtra/Logic of "true" Buddhist people was very good. Noone hates "Jaatak" stories though they are frm Buddhist branch. Siddharth spent no. of births/patience to attain that state, and Dr. Ambedkar made it cheap by "conversion".
@ravysaraf Buddha taught to live as human being and serve every human being whereas vedic teaches "Dhol, Shudra, pashu, naari. sab hai tadan ke adhikari" So explained reincarnation in scientific way and human being gets rebirth in nature after death but vedic teachings say recarniation in different way and divides people in 6,000 jaatis. If Ambedkar would have done more cheap act by converting to islam then this vedic religion should have been thrown out of india.
@nvas4u Can you please refer the Vedic literature from where you translated this slogan? Many plilosophers call Buddhism as Hinduism without malpractices. Please do not try to impress me with malpractices in India...I agree with you that it was bad. Even after concersion we stick to the caste system (SC/ST/etc). But you can clean your house only if you stay and not runaway.
cnt 2.. Ambedkar was very sick and needed medical person to look after him 24 hours. In those days Brahmins never allowed other jaatis or casts to take education so could Ambedkar find someone from his own cast and if unmarried brahmin woman look after ambekar then she will get assaulted from her own people. That is why marriage happened. I cleaned my house edges ago since my ancestors kicked our vedic thoughts from their mind. cnt....
cnt 3..Now it is your and other Brahmins time to clean their own house not only house but aslo their mind and accept all indian people as one human being. To talk about vedic literature, you can start from Geeta, sundar khand (Ramayana), Ramcharitmanas and there are many more. Now tell me 1. is there any brahmin beggar you ever found? answer is no. 2. Did you or do you ever find any backward cast person begging? Answer is staright forward and it is yes there are many more around cities. cnt...
@nvas4u Sirji - first answer my questions.. Also as I said Buddhist were known for their Logic/Tarkashashtra. Please use that if you have.... 1. Why there is always a poor brahmin in all local stories which are not a part of any vedic literature..? Various clans of todays backward classes were rulers...May be due to power and money, they spoiled their next generations.. In 60-70 there were many Brahmin girls/women who marries intercaste...isn't that a good indication of cleaning the house.
Firslty most most stories had been written by Brahmins so answer is clear. Warriors where all backward classes stil on TV we see Brahmin's Jaasi ki raani program. You need to ask these questions to our own media people. Why 60-70% brahmin girls are marrieing in intestercaste is one of good thing but there are lots of post available online which have been posted by Brahmin girls. Please search online and you will find answer. cnt...
@nvas4u I know you were going to say something like this...was testing you... similar to your begger argument.
That's why I said Dr. Ambedkar made a conscious decision based on his in depth studies.. I do not have TV.. Do you read, apart from internet? Drishti - every Sankrit verse is not vedic. You need to understand it. Else someone would praise Ambedkar in Sanskrit and you would keep your ears and eyes closed. Not sure if you understand Pali...?
You need to open your eyes and read and understand those people who sacrifice their lives for people of india such as Phule, Shahu maharaj, Shivaji, Sambhaji, Saint Kabir, Saint Ravidas (Sikh), Poet Sheikh (Muslim) and some literatures from G Gokhale. Brahmins never mentioned lot about Gokhale because he sacrifice his live for all indians and never believed Manuwadi cast system. I keep my eyes open and do have TV(I can nt lie) too because I need to know what rubish they are telecasting. cnt..
@nvas4u Given tht u hv so much information abt Buddhism, u must be knowing dristi samkalpa vac karma ajiva vyayama smriti samadhi. Do wanted to kill "bugs"..then ur Ajiva is gone? Ur language...man! Vac is also gone? Wht abt Dristi. U seem to see other Indian through a lens of hatred. Samkalpa n karma- you are not ready to work for humanity as you hate others on the basis of caste. God! that means you follow the caste. violation of 1st principle! I think these are the bugs to be removed first...
cnt 4...I follow one thing i.e. we all indias are equal but this not accepted in manuwad which most brahmins still practice. I will have to support caste based (resevation) until last bahujan house gets educated. I do not follow cast but I want all 85% - 90% population of bahujan to get education. If I have to talk about humanity then yes how about you as you started with showing hatred behaviour against Ambedkar earliar posts.
@nvas4u Cool down... That's why you need to be good in logic and reading...I never showed any disrespect towards Ambedkar. He was a scholar reached a Buddha state through his struggle and perseverence. He was a great human. But just by praising him or changing my religion on paper, I can not be Buddha..I need my own efforts. I was pointing to this fact. Yes, Indian culture needs cleaning, many including Ambedkar, Savarkar, Amte have contributed. One should disrespect anyone.
You do not need to tell me Buddha's great work as I have done all his readings and attended all major buddhist meetings through out worlds. People like you do not accept Ambedkar's "Buddha and his Dhamma" but in Korea it is been distrubuted free of cost. I agree Ambedkar was great leader and great personality but Agarkar himself declared/wrote in one of his books that he strongky follows Manusriti so how come he has done good work for all indians. He was only for Brahmins. Cnt...
@nvas4u Great work (I mean your reading...) But all with hatred. Say Agarkar was wrong and Tilak was also.. .But then why don't you look at posisitves..
Regarding Pali. It is mostly used in all Buddhist literatures and prarthnas which is same as Sanskrit in mantras and vedic literature. I follow all 5 code of Buddhist Moralities and apply them everyday and do follow tipitaka (Sutta Pitaka, Vinaya Pitaka, and Abhidhamma Pitaka). I speak to make my people and others to create awareness in them.
@nvas4u As we all are your people....and you are one of us. Both your and my ancestors have contributed to the construction of this country....Please do create and keep creating awareness and not blindness and hatred.
@ravysaraf My work to create social revolution. I am not social worker. There is difference between social work and social revolution and i.e. To forgive debt for farmers is social work whereas not to let farmers to borrow debt is social revolution. My task is to tell the truth. As I said earlier that Hatred policy started by Brahmins, so my job is to create awareness in this and let that 85% of indian population know the truth.
@nvas4u Since you talked about reservation - currently we have it in both education and jobs. may be you have a reason for that. But do you agree its use in politics? If you agree, there were is Drishti/Vision? This has given a handle to ruler of India to use the division than to remove it...
To talk about Drishti...Lets talk about SEZ. This SEZ is completely against Bahujan people and it does not follow indian constitution. Reservations in Job is only in Goverment and it is nowhere in private sectors. 3% Brahmin population grabbed 70% indian government jobs and where are Bahujan there. In politics they only talk about reservation but most who talk are Brahmins. Chhatisgardh Naxiliets problem caused because of Arun Shauri (Brahmin) who sold Balco. cnt...
@nvas4u Why can not you look at politicians are politicians and always try to find their castes? As I said, majority n the country hhave least faith in politicians. If you pick Shauri, I would ask what great Pawar has done?
Jobs reservation - don't make me talk laud... Till the start of privatization, large portions of jobs were from Govt and public sector, hence we got reservation, now you talk abt private sector. Ramdas Athwale asked in Cricket...this is not growth, it is greed!
As I mentioned, I am working on social revolution and I do not want social work like Kisan Baburao Hazare (Anna Hazare). His anashan supported by huge terrorrist mind Togdia of VHP. Anna has other issues to present to the govnt rather than Lokpal (if you want to know then I can tell you). So Anna is been used by Brahmin political minds which is same as Ramkisan Yadav (Ramdev Baba) culprit of killing his guru Shankar Dev. cnt...
I really feel petty for these bahujans like Hazare, Ramdev baba, and Sharad Pawar. In that Anshan Mr sher said Bacchan should have supported this event. How come A Bacchan will support this? He didnt pay 42,000 crore tax since edges. When I heard about this stupid YUTI of Ramdas Athavale, I felt so bad about him. I personally contacted him in this week and I am sure he will not join that yuti. This conspiracy also played by brahmin mind to not to allow other bahujan to support 22 may rally. cnt
@nvas4u It is a "yuti" of convenience much like Buddhist orgnisation, Maratha Seva Sangh, Sambhaji Brigade, Muslim league, Christian and Lingayat org. BTW Bacchan did support Hazare. So you are saying that Hazare or any anti-corruption campaign is wrong if the involved person is from "bahujan samaj" by your definition....A Raja for example. I guess 2G case give us such an opportunity, that it involves people from all classes...
Yes A Raja punished I am very happy. but how about Karunanidhi and his daughter. When people raised questions that why Raja in and Kalmadi out then suddenly Congress took action. You notice Kalmadi will release soon but there will no news about Raja. I am completelty against corruption as you do but there were more issues to resolve which Mr. Hazare would have raised. We have 257 total districts in india and 1/3 is taken over by Naxalites. There are so many issues that need urgent attention.
@nvas4u Whether karuna will be arrested or not will be clear on 13th after the election results. If he looses, surely he will be arrested and his life will be miserable. It is all politics my friend! That's why court has stayed Kanimozhi's order till 14th. Please remove your lenses.
@nvas4u I was thinking of chat with you. FYI Kanimozhi is arrested. Peace! Pls explain "nvas4u" ur name. Hopefully you would stop aligning with social evils like Sambhaji Brigade, concentrate on removing differences, love good from everywhere including Veda, recognize wider contributions to India's growth, remember not to target a particular caste or religion, would talk against the evil writers live "Khedekar" (who authors books from Sambhaji Brigade), live a socially n mentally healthy life.
In 2000 UN did survey and said that in 5 illitarate people, first 3 are indians. Indian Brahmins congress took huge action and started Akshargyan program rather than education because everyone knows that Akshargyan can be wiped out from brain if you do not practice. In one of WHO meeting a lady who was Sarpanch of small villege near Jaipur and she was Brahmin. She went in Jeans and T-Shirt and told WHO that we do not have Backward people left at all. Wow what a conspiricy they played! Cnt..
@nvas4u If you say so - but it was this congress which allow Ambedkar to be the chairperson of Indian constitution. He rightly or wrongly started the use of reservation as a method to uplift the people. If that has gone a failure in 60 years, then we should change the method.
The failure started when people like Sibbal made changes in constitution as you must be aware of of those changes he made to primary education. I work in multinational company as manager and do have whites and some Brahmins working for me. I do not do castism with them as we all hired them to welfare of this company. In schools or at work we talk about and to those topics which are neccessary which are mostly related to internal studies and work. cnt..
@nvas4u As if things were great before Sibbal!!! You would get the same result if you follow the same process. That is what is happening. Another reason for bad education instead of having those who have faith in teaching we have those who want just salaries. I need not talk why that has happened. Privatization of education is also a similar thing. I studies all along in Municipal schools, because those were having good teachers. It is the failure of method and unless we accept, it won't change
@nvas4u Why our behaviors are different when we work in out of India or for MNC vs. social life. That is probably the rules. If you are unfair, you would thrown out (btw things could different if it is Indian MNC). It is not your favor that you recruit some one, it is his/her own merit. Pls. don't try to be God! For example, my most favorite poet is Grave (Manik Godghate) not becausse he is from a partiicular class, but because of his quality...
Same here as I do enjoy Pul Deshpande's great work. But if you simply compare the conspiricies of 9% Brahmins against 70% bahujan samaj then you will not even consider that idiot Kadam or DY Patil. In my very first comment to Mr. Ramteke I told him to go to Chait Bhumi to get some books. But your very first comment to him was assaulting the great Human Ambedkar. Educated started from Savitribai's hard struggle. Then who should be knowledge godess Sarsvati or Savitri?
@nvas4u Ha! It is your on conspiracy. You do not want to see any positives. Instead of looking at Amte, Awachat, etc. (I am using recent examples than the pre-historic stuff) and thus creating harmonious culture, you would say why Gokhale was not popular.
Well Savitribai, karve, Anandi bai all are modern time great human being... to whom to worship - is anyones choice.
Well Anandi bai Joshi was first doctor who achieved degree in from foreign country. She did no work to the society. she did not check single patient and died very soon. So it is wrong to join her name with Savitri bai. Dont you think? Most brahmins presented wrong material and made people to have choice so most can forget Savitribai and her work. I am happy that you do not follow Manuwad and you accept good should be in and bad should be out .
All Bahujan need is to treat them as human as being human and let them have a choice to grow. It is not only with Maharashtra but also with all regions of india. There are some bahujan trapped in this Manuwadi thoughts and play conspiracies against their own brothers and sisters. Some names I mentioned in earlier posts. Manuwad and samajwad should be stopped to grow every individual.
@nvas4u Dear friend, you tempted me so many time to write on Manuwad.. But I am not writing...I am accepting that bad should be thrown and good should be taken no matter from where... But look at your attitude?
Ambedkar had no choice to but to go with congress because of Gandhi's stunt which forced all bahujans for Puna PACT. I hope this can give you some light on this. In my all conversation I did not deny any mythology of/in Buddhism. All I am saying you need some more reading in and about Buddhism. If you know about Buddhism or have knowledge of Buddhism then all rest Brahmins should learn from you.
@nvas4u Poona pact is a different point and I know it well. I was talking on the constitution. I refrain from any "isms" which create sects and sects create castes. I do not follow the mass mentality and keep my choices according to their merits..
As I said I am not against Anti Corruption. But Anna would have made urgent attention to these simple issues: 1. Why he remains silent on privatization in higher education?
@nvas4u One person can not reach everywhere. He helped in RTI that was a good effort. Why should not others take up more problems at ground level than doing mass morchas? I teach in primary schools without asking religion. Everyone should do their part. After privatization of education, Kadam (patangrao), Naik (Sudhakar/Vasant) are the kind of people who are enjoying the money.
Lets talk here about Drishti..To make Atal Bihari as PM of india, how brahmins played politics. They talk about reservation to get votes and fool bahujan and then they left their own parties to support Atal Bihari such as Mamta Banarji left Congress, In south Kumaran and in Himachal Sharma they all Brahmins and there are many more left their parties and supported Atal Bihari. .....Cnt..about Drishti
When he (Atal) visited in maharashtra, he said we will have Rashtriy Charcha to confirm wheather Dadoji was his (Shivaji's) guru or father. So my question is, will he (Atal) have rashtriy charcha to let us know who was his (Atal's) father? To keep bahujan separated, Brahmins and only Brahmins made a disgussing controvercy in Shivaji's Jayanti. I am "PADHA LIKHA" and do not want to be "LIKHA PADHA" (Brahman has written (Likha) and Bahujan have read (Padha). cnt..
@nvas4u Please don't even bother to address Dadoji issue. That is out of scope from Buddha discussion. Also I know all these word game of likha/padha". It is only a matter of who is using whom..
You and Brahmins already said Ambedkar did cheap act by doing conversion. There is nothing wrong to convert people to buddhism to let them know about buddha's life and his path. You called this act as cheap but most cheap stunts performed by Brahmins only. In Ram mandir sthapana, around 70,000 people are died and none Brahmin died in this. This is Drishti and vision is to escape all 85% indian from this vedic (Manuwadi) system to let them live as human being. cnt...
@nvas4u Again just a heresy. Such claims that Brahmins did not die are baseless. Of course nothing wrong in conversion as long as you are not creating a hatred force. Mud slinging will make you dirty. You should have achieved eternal peace by now!!
Drishti...James Laine book author supporter and listed people in his books are Brahmins such as Marathe, Paranjape, Bahulkar, Purandare..When Sambhaji Brigade shown their anger on Bahulkar that time Raj Thakare (Brahmin) supported bahulkar which means Thakre supports James Laine too. You read about Dishtri in Buddhas teaching but you are applying it in manuwadi VICHARDHARA. So whatever questions you asked me those to be asked to your own people to get them to asnwer you...
@nvas4u Again same old. When you are such nice follower of Buddhism, why do you start this topic? We have grown up with deepest respect for Shivaji Maharaj. Books, date controversies are there for many issues.
2ndly constitution written by Ambedkar has given freedom of speech.
Shivaji Maharaj's issue created by Ninad Bedekar, Jayant Salgaonkar, Baba Purandare, Bahulkar obviously they all are brahmins. This Jayant Salgaonkar said we should celebrate Shivaji jayanti according to tithi. My question is..Will he release his Kalnirnay calander according to Tithi? no he releases on every Dec and Jan and starts from January. I suggest to read James Laine book and you will notice all references came from Brahmin literature. They tried this stunt using english author.
@nvas4u Please... it is hard to have a meaningful discussion when there is so much hatred. Does it matter or tithi or date? Both are celebrating..You refer what you like. You get 2 times celebration. Important is Shivaji's thought of respect to all.
Yes you are right but it is insult to such great human being. Dont you think? Human birth happens according to dates. Shivaji Maharaj was human being. If you talk about unity then why you and other can not celebrate his jayanti on 19th Feb ie according to date?
@nvas4u It can not be an insult. A dead person is least bothered about it. May be he is bothered about distortion of his thoughts done by others.. God know what is a right couting after all counting is started by man! The calendar you are talking about is adjusted a thousands of time to keep the kings and queens happy in Europe. Now with Japan's Tsumani, the earth has moved a bit again... this is such a petty thing..
@nvas4u I am talking about counting errors and not the science.
Also this is not a rule that noone can go against science. Mythology from every religion including Hinduism and Buddhism and Christian is not necessarily scientific. Also whether science would lead to a peace of mind is questionable.
Buddha did not even accept that human being created by quality fertilised eggs. But he explained his scietific thoughts in so well manner that todays scientists can also accept and teach everyone the clear way to nirvana. That is why I tell my people to go to chait bhumi to visit and get some great books which talks about Buddha.
@nvas4u Surely in fact apart from what I have, I would surely have some good reference on Buddhism in my library. But if you are denying mythology in Buddhism...well what can I say..
If you truely follow Buddha then you should know how he has explained definition of religions and their gods. If you do then you should let your own people know this so others can follow Buddha's 4 Nobel Truths and get educated from it. In most of all my comments I did mention all religions and my respect towards them but I do not accept and will not accept Brahmanism thoughts because it devides people.
@nvas4u Your people, my people - that can not be a starting point of discussion. If Brahmini thought was dividing the people, so is hatred thought. No one is asking you to accept any thoughts. It is a part of our rights. All we need is tolerance.
Tolerance also has a limit and it needs action against it. And acceptance is Brahmanism devides people. This is bitter truth. I talk good about Keluskar Guruji, Gokhale as they really worked for nation only whereas Savarkar was not good for his own brother (I am no saying this. This is mentioned in Tilak's Kesari). You can get copy of that newspaper from Bhandarkar Library. cnt....
Yes I refer Bhandarkar Library as it is goverment sponcered. Why should I show huge respect to Bhandarkar on his one very stupid act which was "they had hidden Sambhaji Maharaj's Buddhbhushan granth for many years" and published so many wrong materials. I am not against Library as I am against management's behavior. This management is still doing some work against indian society.
@nvas4u Again you are hating someone. Archeology is an important aspect. British and others have stolen so many stuff from India, that institutes like Bhandarkar should be helped.
Thats why I mentioned earlier that every human being has to go through with buddha's 4 Nobel Truth and then we can overcome from suffering according to 4th Truth. I do not have any disrespect about Bhandarkar Library as I said I am not happy with their managements work. Not being happy does not mean any hating. It means they are not doing good work for welfare of indian people. They are simply detrimantal the welfare of indian people and society.
@nvas4u Surely... 4 nobel truths are similar good thought from entire world should lead our lives.
Since you visit Bhandarkar library, I would like to understand other than Laines incident. Why alway conspiracy..? Any historical asset is important. When Indian Govt is so lethargic, someone like Bhandarkar's have done a good job. Else Laine would have got his references from some library in UK where you can not go and vandalize. Welfare is not appeasement. It is a conscious effort.
What Indian Govt has done as fgood effort to Bahujan people. Nothing. As you said Welfare is not appeasement. I agree with this. We are doing conscious efforts for welfare of people. As you mentioned Laine. Laine spent time with Bhandarkar and his people (Purandare, Bahulkar). It is in his own biography. You earlier mentioned that you follow Buddha then why did you relie on God's karni as Buddha mentioned definition of god so beautifully.
@nvas4u I did not get "You earlier mentioned that you follow Buddha then why did you relie on God's karni as Buddha mentioned definition of god so beautifully." this part.
However I know that there is no difference in Taliban and those who support vandalism - Taliban destructed so many Buddha statues which was beautiful human creation, and the same was done by those who vandalized the library that put effort even before independece in preserving the national legacy.
I do not support Taliban or Bhandar Library management staff. Because they all did sin. I would ask the same question why Brahmins and Pushmurt Shrung destroyed most Buddist monestries? If Bhandarkar people have written something wrong and against of those great personalities then who would you say STOP and not to destroy Bhandarkar library? It is reaction.Taliban destroyed not for welfare of their people. It was all about their Sheriat stupidity. They all have different reasons.
@nvas4u I said similarity b/w Taliban and those who vandalized.. not the staff. Also I am talking about whatever is available now...and not hundreds of years ago. You could have protested against the book, but destoying manuscript is talibanism....and who am I to stop.. well no one. you look pretty staunch regressive in your thoughts.
If u hv any concerns go and attend 22/05/2011 'bharat mukti morch' and ask them questions this will be on Azad maidan at 3pm and people are from Buddhist orgnisation, Maratha Seva Sangh, Sambhaji Brigade, Muslim league, Christian and Lingayat org. no Brahman or their orgination. So please go there and ask them your any further concerns. In next month 5 lakh people are converting to Buddhism in gujrat so please go their raise your questions because medium you used here is insufficient n wrng.
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नमस्कार,
मी बुद्धिस्ट आहे, मला आज पर्यंत केंव्हाच हिंदु बद्द्ल जवळीक वाटलं नाही. केंव्हा हिंदुचा कट्टार विरोधक आहे.
पण हे गाण ऐकल्यावर मला समस्त त्या हिंदु मुलांचा हेवा वाटतोय जी मुलं असलं अप्रतिम गाण ऐकत मोठी झालीत. वा वा.
आम्ही खरच काही चांगल्या गोष्टिना मुकलोत.
madhukarramteke 1 year ago
@madhukarramteke It seems more like you are unaware of Buddhist books and knowledge. I also guess that you must not have clue about purpose being having this Shubhank karoti.....I suggest you to go to Chaitbhumi on 6 dec and get some books that might help you. Cheers
nvas4u 1 year ago
@nvas4u Indeed everyone, including Buddhist by current region definition and others should learn about Buddha - but 6 December and Chaitya Bhumi are wrong place. That is the place for "nav"-bhauddha, and not true Buddha. Buddha word is related to Buddhi/mind/intellegence. 6 December and Chaitya Bhumi is opposite to that. Just by converting your religion, you do not attain that status. Even Siddharth took many births to reach that state. You should visit Bailkuppe or other Buddha monasteries.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
It is very clear to me that you do not know anything about budhha n his teachings. What Dr. babasaheb told n said in past it was all about buddha's teachings. In his ancient teachings or any literature written that time do not n didnt contain anything about veda n it did not tell anything about jaatis that brahmins n their mythology made n divided we indians into 6,000 jaatis.
nvas4u 9 months ago
What is nau baudh n other countries budhhist learn about buddha is same. Buddha told one thing in his one of teachings that sometime you have to fight to kill or destroy harmful bugs n if we do not then they will cause the problem. New mulsim or old muslim do not have any difference because they follow n read same quran. Buddhism is my India's religion n i am very proud of it.
nvas4u 9 months ago
I am glad that I do not follow outside religions (e.g. Vedic) n their stupid practices. People who visit to chait bhumi every year are real indians n natives of this country. Vedic (todays hindu) religion divides people. If Ambedkar had decided to convert all his followers to islam then today you wouldnt hv been exist.
nvas4u 9 months ago
At the time of culprit "Pushpmrut Shrungh", himself and other brahmins tried their best to destroy buddhas thoughts and his teachings n they did lots of conspiricies n today what you are talking is all came from your own people "BRAHMINs" thoughts because they want to do to spoil name of great indian personalities. What you n your people (Tilak, Savarkar and many more)have done so far to welfare bahujan people of india? NOthng
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u I am confused... If your are heart is so much filled with hatred, how come are you a buddha? Also how did you find out that I am not a Buddha and I did not know anything about Buddha? Also are you backward looking or forward? Also do you think if any terrorist if they attack, would they first find out your caste and then kill you? Also are trying to align with terrorists? Also if Ambedkar was wise enough to remain in Indian religion, are you otherwise?
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@ravysaraf Firstly I do not hate anyone and seconldy I do not like those people who hate Ambedkar. People hate ambedkar who know nothing about his sacrifice. So if you are in this hatred list then why should I follow you and and why should I like you. Whay it so good about Vedic religion which should make any bahujan to stay in it...nothing. Relating creating terrorist atosphere, ask to you own people. From naded to sabarmati express all bomb blast had been planned by Brahmins only....cnd..
nvas4u 9 months ago
cnt....1..From nanded to sabarmati express all bomb blast had been planned by Brahmins. I am not saying this. Achitanand alia Jatan Chatarji said and accpted. Now tell me who creates hatred heart and environment? BRAHMINS AND THEIR BRAHMIN MEDIA pointed and assaulted innocent muslims people of india.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u cntd... Also do you worship light (which this poem does) or darkness? Also do you know sects like Mahayana, Theravada, Vajrayana in Buddhism? Do you know earliest followers of Buddhism were from all castes in India (not magically dropped extraterristrial people) and we are their descendents? Do you know Savarkar worked against caste discrinimation? Do you know Ambedkar married a Brahmin woman? If caste system was bad, aren't ST/ST/OBC/VJ/NT/Open/Minority these new castes in India?
ravysaraf 9 months ago
cnt....This hatred started from Brahmins and they are the only culprits...so you need to talk to them and ask them these questions. Ambedkar married Brahmin woman because he never followed or believed cast system so do i. All indian people divided in 6,000 casts and this had done only and only by brahmins. That why only Brahmins raise this question why Ambedkar married brahmin because brahmins hate and do not care any other jaatis. Second reason for ambedkar to married a brahmin women is, cnt..
nvas4u 9 months ago
@madhukarramteke When Buddhism is a branch of all regions grew in India, why should one oppose the other branches? What Dr. Ambedkar has taught is social equality and not-Bauddhism. If you study both Hindu and Buddha literatue, you wud find cross-links/sharing. Tark-shashtra/Logic of "true" Buddhist people was very good. Noone hates "Jaatak" stories though they are frm Buddhist branch. Siddharth spent no. of births/patience to attain that state, and Dr. Ambedkar made it cheap by "conversion".
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@ravysaraf Buddha taught to live as human being and serve every human being whereas vedic teaches "Dhol, Shudra, pashu, naari. sab hai tadan ke adhikari" So explained reincarnation in scientific way and human being gets rebirth in nature after death but vedic teachings say recarniation in different way and divides people in 6,000 jaatis. If Ambedkar would have done more cheap act by converting to islam then this vedic religion should have been thrown out of india.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Can you please refer the Vedic literature from where you translated this slogan? Many plilosophers call Buddhism as Hinduism without malpractices. Please do not try to impress me with malpractices in India...I agree with you that it was bad. Even after concersion we stick to the caste system (SC/ST/etc). But you can clean your house only if you stay and not runaway.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
cnt 2.. Ambedkar was very sick and needed medical person to look after him 24 hours. In those days Brahmins never allowed other jaatis or casts to take education so could Ambedkar find someone from his own cast and if unmarried brahmin woman look after ambekar then she will get assaulted from her own people. That is why marriage happened. I cleaned my house edges ago since my ancestors kicked our vedic thoughts from their mind. cnt....
nvas4u 9 months ago
cnt 3..Now it is your and other Brahmins time to clean their own house not only house but aslo their mind and accept all indian people as one human being. To talk about vedic literature, you can start from Geeta, sundar khand (Ramayana), Ramcharitmanas and there are many more. Now tell me 1. is there any brahmin beggar you ever found? answer is no. 2. Did you or do you ever find any backward cast person begging? Answer is staright forward and it is yes there are many more around cities. cnt...
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Sirji - first answer my questions.. Also as I said Buddhist were known for their Logic/Tarkashashtra. Please use that if you have.... 1. Why there is always a poor brahmin in all local stories which are not a part of any vedic literature..? Various clans of todays backward classes were rulers...May be due to power and money, they spoiled their next generations.. In 60-70 there were many Brahmin girls/women who marries intercaste...isn't that a good indication of cleaning the house.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Firslty most most stories had been written by Brahmins so answer is clear. Warriors where all backward classes stil on TV we see Brahmin's Jaasi ki raani program. You need to ask these questions to our own media people. Why 60-70% brahmin girls are marrieing in intestercaste is one of good thing but there are lots of post available online which have been posted by Brahmin girls. Please search online and you will find answer. cnt...
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u I know you were going to say something like this...was testing you... similar to your begger argument.
That's why I said Dr. Ambedkar made a conscious decision based on his in depth studies.. I do not have TV.. Do you read, apart from internet? Drishti - every Sankrit verse is not vedic. You need to understand it. Else someone would praise Ambedkar in Sanskrit and you would keep your ears and eyes closed. Not sure if you understand Pali...?
ravysaraf 9 months ago
You need to open your eyes and read and understand those people who sacrifice their lives for people of india such as Phule, Shahu maharaj, Shivaji, Sambhaji, Saint Kabir, Saint Ravidas (Sikh), Poet Sheikh (Muslim) and some literatures from G Gokhale. Brahmins never mentioned lot about Gokhale because he sacrifice his live for all indians and never believed Manuwadi cast system. I keep my eyes open and do have TV(I can nt lie) too because I need to know what rubish they are telecasting. cnt..
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Given tht u hv so much information abt Buddhism, u must be knowing dristi samkalpa vac karma ajiva vyayama smriti samadhi. Do wanted to kill "bugs"..then ur Ajiva is gone? Ur language...man! Vac is also gone? Wht abt Dristi. U seem to see other Indian through a lens of hatred. Samkalpa n karma- you are not ready to work for humanity as you hate others on the basis of caste. God! that means you follow the caste. violation of 1st principle! I think these are the bugs to be removed first...
ravysaraf 9 months ago
cnt 4...I follow one thing i.e. we all indias are equal but this not accepted in manuwad which most brahmins still practice. I will have to support caste based (resevation) until last bahujan house gets educated. I do not follow cast but I want all 85% - 90% population of bahujan to get education. If I have to talk about humanity then yes how about you as you started with showing hatred behaviour against Ambedkar earliar posts.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Cool down... That's why you need to be good in logic and reading...I never showed any disrespect towards Ambedkar. He was a scholar reached a Buddha state through his struggle and perseverence. He was a great human. But just by praising him or changing my religion on paper, I can not be Buddha..I need my own efforts. I was pointing to this fact. Yes, Indian culture needs cleaning, many including Ambedkar, Savarkar, Amte have contributed. One should disrespect anyone.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
You do not need to tell me Buddha's great work as I have done all his readings and attended all major buddhist meetings through out worlds. People like you do not accept Ambedkar's "Buddha and his Dhamma" but in Korea it is been distrubuted free of cost. I agree Ambedkar was great leader and great personality but Agarkar himself declared/wrote in one of his books that he strongky follows Manusriti so how come he has done good work for all indians. He was only for Brahmins. Cnt...
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Correction in my last line (one should not disrespect anyone)...
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@nvas4u Great work (I mean your reading...) But all with hatred. Say Agarkar was wrong and Tilak was also.. .But then why don't you look at posisitves..
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Regarding Pali. It is mostly used in all Buddhist literatures and prarthnas which is same as Sanskrit in mantras and vedic literature. I follow all 5 code of Buddhist Moralities and apply them everyday and do follow tipitaka (Sutta Pitaka, Vinaya Pitaka, and Abhidhamma Pitaka). I speak to make my people and others to create awareness in them.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u As we all are your people....and you are one of us. Both your and my ancestors have contributed to the construction of this country....Please do create and keep creating awareness and not blindness and hatred.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@ravysaraf My work to create social revolution. I am not social worker. There is difference between social work and social revolution and i.e. To forgive debt for farmers is social work whereas not to let farmers to borrow debt is social revolution. My task is to tell the truth. As I said earlier that Hatred policy started by Brahmins, so my job is to create awareness in this and let that 85% of indian population know the truth.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Since you talked about reservation - currently we have it in both education and jobs. may be you have a reason for that. But do you agree its use in politics? If you agree, there were is Drishti/Vision? This has given a handle to ruler of India to use the division than to remove it...
ravysaraf 9 months ago
To talk about Drishti...Lets talk about SEZ. This SEZ is completely against Bahujan people and it does not follow indian constitution. Reservations in Job is only in Goverment and it is nowhere in private sectors. 3% Brahmin population grabbed 70% indian government jobs and where are Bahujan there. In politics they only talk about reservation but most who talk are Brahmins. Chhatisgardh Naxiliets problem caused because of Arun Shauri (Brahmin) who sold Balco. cnt...
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Why can not you look at politicians are politicians and always try to find their castes? As I said, majority n the country hhave least faith in politicians. If you pick Shauri, I would ask what great Pawar has done?
Jobs reservation - don't make me talk laud... Till the start of privatization, large portions of jobs were from Govt and public sector, hence we got reservation, now you talk abt private sector. Ramdas Athwale asked in Cricket...this is not growth, it is greed!
ravysaraf 9 months ago
As I mentioned, I am working on social revolution and I do not want social work like Kisan Baburao Hazare (Anna Hazare). His anashan supported by huge terrorrist mind Togdia of VHP. Anna has other issues to present to the govnt rather than Lokpal (if you want to know then I can tell you). So Anna is been used by Brahmin political minds which is same as Ramkisan Yadav (Ramdev Baba) culprit of killing his guru Shankar Dev. cnt...
nvas4u 9 months ago
I really feel petty for these bahujans like Hazare, Ramdev baba, and Sharad Pawar. In that Anshan Mr sher said Bacchan should have supported this event. How come A Bacchan will support this? He didnt pay 42,000 crore tax since edges. When I heard about this stupid YUTI of Ramdas Athavale, I felt so bad about him. I personally contacted him in this week and I am sure he will not join that yuti. This conspiracy also played by brahmin mind to not to allow other bahujan to support 22 may rally. cnt
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u It is a "yuti" of convenience much like Buddhist orgnisation, Maratha Seva Sangh, Sambhaji Brigade, Muslim league, Christian and Lingayat org. BTW Bacchan did support Hazare. So you are saying that Hazare or any anti-corruption campaign is wrong if the involved person is from "bahujan samaj" by your definition....A Raja for example. I guess 2G case give us such an opportunity, that it involves people from all classes...
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Yes A Raja punished I am very happy. but how about Karunanidhi and his daughter. When people raised questions that why Raja in and Kalmadi out then suddenly Congress took action. You notice Kalmadi will release soon but there will no news about Raja. I am completelty against corruption as you do but there were more issues to resolve which Mr. Hazare would have raised. We have 257 total districts in india and 1/3 is taken over by Naxalites. There are so many issues that need urgent attention.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Whether karuna will be arrested or not will be clear on 13th after the election results. If he looses, surely he will be arrested and his life will be miserable. It is all politics my friend! That's why court has stayed Kanimozhi's order till 14th. Please remove your lenses.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@nvas4u I was thinking of chat with you. FYI Kanimozhi is arrested. Peace! Pls explain "nvas4u" ur name. Hopefully you would stop aligning with social evils like Sambhaji Brigade, concentrate on removing differences, love good from everywhere including Veda, recognize wider contributions to India's growth, remember not to target a particular caste or religion, would talk against the evil writers live "Khedekar" (who authors books from Sambhaji Brigade), live a socially n mentally healthy life.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
In 2000 UN did survey and said that in 5 illitarate people, first 3 are indians. Indian Brahmins congress took huge action and started Akshargyan program rather than education because everyone knows that Akshargyan can be wiped out from brain if you do not practice. In one of WHO meeting a lady who was Sarpanch of small villege near Jaipur and she was Brahmin. She went in Jeans and T-Shirt and told WHO that we do not have Backward people left at all. Wow what a conspiricy they played! Cnt..
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u If you say so - but it was this congress which allow Ambedkar to be the chairperson of Indian constitution. He rightly or wrongly started the use of reservation as a method to uplift the people. If that has gone a failure in 60 years, then we should change the method.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
The failure started when people like Sibbal made changes in constitution as you must be aware of of those changes he made to primary education. I work in multinational company as manager and do have whites and some Brahmins working for me. I do not do castism with them as we all hired them to welfare of this company. In schools or at work we talk about and to those topics which are neccessary which are mostly related to internal studies and work. cnt..
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u As if things were great before Sibbal!!! You would get the same result if you follow the same process. That is what is happening. Another reason for bad education instead of having those who have faith in teaching we have those who want just salaries. I need not talk why that has happened. Privatization of education is also a similar thing. I studies all along in Municipal schools, because those were having good teachers. It is the failure of method and unless we accept, it won't change
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@nvas4u Why our behaviors are different when we work in out of India or for MNC vs. social life. That is probably the rules. If you are unfair, you would thrown out (btw things could different if it is Indian MNC). It is not your favor that you recruit some one, it is his/her own merit. Pls. don't try to be God! For example, my most favorite poet is Grave (Manik Godghate) not becausse he is from a partiicular class, but because of his quality...
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Same here as I do enjoy Pul Deshpande's great work. But if you simply compare the conspiricies of 9% Brahmins against 70% bahujan samaj then you will not even consider that idiot Kadam or DY Patil. In my very first comment to Mr. Ramteke I told him to go to Chait Bhumi to get some books. But your very first comment to him was assaulting the great Human Ambedkar. Educated started from Savitribai's hard struggle. Then who should be knowledge godess Sarsvati or Savitri?
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Ha! It is your on conspiracy. You do not want to see any positives. Instead of looking at Amte, Awachat, etc. (I am using recent examples than the pre-historic stuff) and thus creating harmonious culture, you would say why Gokhale was not popular.
Well Savitribai, karve, Anandi bai all are modern time great human being... to whom to worship - is anyones choice.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Well Anandi bai Joshi was first doctor who achieved degree in from foreign country. She did no work to the society. she did not check single patient and died very soon. So it is wrong to join her name with Savitri bai. Dont you think? Most brahmins presented wrong material and made people to have choice so most can forget Savitribai and her work. I am happy that you do not follow Manuwad and you accept good should be in and bad should be out .
nvas4u 9 months ago
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@nvas4u It is all about human effort. Yes good from anywhere should be accepted and bad from everywhere should be rejected...
ravysaraf 9 months ago
All Bahujan need is to treat them as human as being human and let them have a choice to grow. It is not only with Maharashtra but also with all regions of india. There are some bahujan trapped in this Manuwadi thoughts and play conspiracies against their own brothers and sisters. Some names I mentioned in earlier posts. Manuwad and samajwad should be stopped to grow every individual.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Dear friend, you tempted me so many time to write on Manuwad.. But I am not writing...I am accepting that bad should be thrown and good should be taken no matter from where... But look at your attitude?
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Ambedkar had no choice to but to go with congress because of Gandhi's stunt which forced all bahujans for Puna PACT. I hope this can give you some light on this. In my all conversation I did not deny any mythology of/in Buddhism. All I am saying you need some more reading in and about Buddhism. If you know about Buddhism or have knowledge of Buddhism then all rest Brahmins should learn from you.
nvas4u 9 months ago
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@nvas4u Poona pact is a different point and I know it well. I was talking on the constitution. I refrain from any "isms" which create sects and sects create castes. I do not follow the mass mentality and keep my choices according to their merits..
ravysaraf 9 months ago
As I said I am not against Anti Corruption. But Anna would have made urgent attention to these simple issues: 1. Why he remains silent on privatization in higher education?
2. ------ on farmers suicides?
3. ----Devaluation in primary education system?
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u One person can not reach everywhere. He helped in RTI that was a good effort. Why should not others take up more problems at ground level than doing mass morchas? I teach in primary schools without asking religion. Everyone should do their part. After privatization of education, Kadam (patangrao), Naik (Sudhakar/Vasant) are the kind of people who are enjoying the money.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Lets talk here about Drishti..To make Atal Bihari as PM of india, how brahmins played politics. They talk about reservation to get votes and fool bahujan and then they left their own parties to support Atal Bihari such as Mamta Banarji left Congress, In south Kumaran and in Himachal Sharma they all Brahmins and there are many more left their parties and supported Atal Bihari. .....Cnt..about Drishti
nvas4u 9 months ago
When he (Atal) visited in maharashtra, he said we will have Rashtriy Charcha to confirm wheather Dadoji was his (Shivaji's) guru or father. So my question is, will he (Atal) have rashtriy charcha to let us know who was his (Atal's) father? To keep bahujan separated, Brahmins and only Brahmins made a disgussing controvercy in Shivaji's Jayanti. I am "PADHA LIKHA" and do not want to be "LIKHA PADHA" (Brahman has written (Likha) and Bahujan have read (Padha). cnt..
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Please don't even bother to address Dadoji issue. That is out of scope from Buddha discussion. Also I know all these word game of likha/padha". It is only a matter of who is using whom..
ravysaraf 9 months ago
You and Brahmins already said Ambedkar did cheap act by doing conversion. There is nothing wrong to convert people to buddhism to let them know about buddha's life and his path. You called this act as cheap but most cheap stunts performed by Brahmins only. In Ram mandir sthapana, around 70,000 people are died and none Brahmin died in this. This is Drishti and vision is to escape all 85% indian from this vedic (Manuwadi) system to let them live as human being. cnt...
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Again just a heresy. Such claims that Brahmins did not die are baseless. Of course nothing wrong in conversion as long as you are not creating a hatred force. Mud slinging will make you dirty. You should have achieved eternal peace by now!!
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Drishti...James Laine book author supporter and listed people in his books are Brahmins such as Marathe, Paranjape, Bahulkar, Purandare..When Sambhaji Brigade shown their anger on Bahulkar that time Raj Thakare (Brahmin) supported bahulkar which means Thakre supports James Laine too. You read about Dishtri in Buddhas teaching but you are applying it in manuwadi VICHARDHARA. So whatever questions you asked me those to be asked to your own people to get them to asnwer you...
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Again same old. When you are such nice follower of Buddhism, why do you start this topic? We have grown up with deepest respect for Shivaji Maharaj. Books, date controversies are there for many issues.
2ndly constitution written by Ambedkar has given freedom of speech.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Shivaji Maharaj's issue created by Ninad Bedekar, Jayant Salgaonkar, Baba Purandare, Bahulkar obviously they all are brahmins. This Jayant Salgaonkar said we should celebrate Shivaji jayanti according to tithi. My question is..Will he release his Kalnirnay calander according to Tithi? no he releases on every Dec and Jan and starts from January. I suggest to read James Laine book and you will notice all references came from Brahmin literature. They tried this stunt using english author.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Please... it is hard to have a meaningful discussion when there is so much hatred. Does it matter or tithi or date? Both are celebrating..You refer what you like. You get 2 times celebration. Important is Shivaji's thought of respect to all.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Yes you are right but it is insult to such great human being. Dont you think? Human birth happens according to dates. Shivaji Maharaj was human being. If you talk about unity then why you and other can not celebrate his jayanti on 19th Feb ie according to date?
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u It can not be an insult. A dead person is least bothered about it. May be he is bothered about distortion of his thoughts done by others.. God know what is a right couting after all counting is started by man! The calendar you are talking about is adjusted a thousands of time to keep the kings and queens happy in Europe. Now with Japan's Tsumani, the earth has moved a bit again... this is such a petty thing..
ravysaraf 9 months ago
But that is Science and no one can go against science.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u I am talking about counting errors and not the science.
Also this is not a rule that noone can go against science. Mythology from every religion including Hinduism and Buddhism and Christian is not necessarily scientific. Also whether science would lead to a peace of mind is questionable.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Buddha did not even accept that human being created by quality fertilised eggs. But he explained his scietific thoughts in so well manner that todays scientists can also accept and teach everyone the clear way to nirvana. That is why I tell my people to go to chait bhumi to visit and get some great books which talks about Buddha.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Surely in fact apart from what I have, I would surely have some good reference on Buddhism in my library. But if you are denying mythology in Buddhism...well what can I say..
ravysaraf 9 months ago
If you truely follow Buddha then you should know how he has explained definition of religions and their gods. If you do then you should let your own people know this so others can follow Buddha's 4 Nobel Truths and get educated from it. In most of all my comments I did mention all religions and my respect towards them but I do not accept and will not accept Brahmanism thoughts because it devides people.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Your people, my people - that can not be a starting point of discussion. If Brahmini thought was dividing the people, so is hatred thought. No one is asking you to accept any thoughts. It is a part of our rights. All we need is tolerance.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Tolerance also has a limit and it needs action against it. And acceptance is Brahmanism devides people. This is bitter truth. I talk good about Keluskar Guruji, Gokhale as they really worked for nation only whereas Savarkar was not good for his own brother (I am no saying this. This is mentioned in Tilak's Kesari). You can get copy of that newspaper from Bhandarkar Library. cnt....
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u You are referring Bhandarkar Library - and still destryoing it?
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Yes I refer Bhandarkar Library as it is goverment sponcered. Why should I show huge respect to Bhandarkar on his one very stupid act which was "they had hidden Sambhaji Maharaj's Buddhbhushan granth for many years" and published so many wrong materials. I am not against Library as I am against management's behavior. This management is still doing some work against indian society.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Again you are hating someone. Archeology is an important aspect. British and others have stolen so many stuff from India, that institutes like Bhandarkar should be helped.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
Thats why I mentioned earlier that every human being has to go through with buddha's 4 Nobel Truth and then we can overcome from suffering according to 4th Truth. I do not have any disrespect about Bhandarkar Library as I said I am not happy with their managements work. Not being happy does not mean any hating. It means they are not doing good work for welfare of indian people. They are simply detrimantal the welfare of indian people and society.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u Surely... 4 nobel truths are similar good thought from entire world should lead our lives.
Since you visit Bhandarkar library, I would like to understand other than Laines incident. Why alway conspiracy..? Any historical asset is important. When Indian Govt is so lethargic, someone like Bhandarkar's have done a good job. Else Laine would have got his references from some library in UK where you can not go and vandalize. Welfare is not appeasement. It is a conscious effort.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
What Indian Govt has done as fgood effort to Bahujan people. Nothing. As you said Welfare is not appeasement. I agree with this. We are doing conscious efforts for welfare of people. As you mentioned Laine. Laine spent time with Bhandarkar and his people (Purandare, Bahulkar). It is in his own biography. You earlier mentioned that you follow Buddha then why did you relie on God's karni as Buddha mentioned definition of god so beautifully.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u I did not get "You earlier mentioned that you follow Buddha then why did you relie on God's karni as Buddha mentioned definition of god so beautifully." this part.
However I know that there is no difference in Taliban and those who support vandalism - Taliban destructed so many Buddha statues which was beautiful human creation, and the same was done by those who vandalized the library that put effort even before independece in preserving the national legacy.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
I do not support Taliban or Bhandar Library management staff. Because they all did sin. I would ask the same question why Brahmins and Pushmurt Shrung destroyed most Buddist monestries? If Bhandarkar people have written something wrong and against of those great personalities then who would you say STOP and not to destroy Bhandarkar library? It is reaction.Taliban destroyed not for welfare of their people. It was all about their Sheriat stupidity. They all have different reasons.
nvas4u 9 months ago
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@nvas4u I said similarity b/w Taliban and those who vandalized.. not the staff. Also I am talking about whatever is available now...and not hundreds of years ago. You could have protested against the book, but destoying manuscript is talibanism....and who am I to stop.. well no one. you look pretty staunch regressive in your thoughts.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
@nvas4u I know only one truth and that is human betterment and take good thought from anywhere. "Shubham karoti kalyanam" is one such thought.
ravysaraf 9 months ago
If u hv any concerns go and attend 22/05/2011 'bharat mukti morch' and ask them questions this will be on Azad maidan at 3pm and people are from Buddhist orgnisation, Maratha Seva Sangh, Sambhaji Brigade, Muslim league, Christian and Lingayat org. no Brahman or their orgination. So please go there and ask them your any further concerns. In next month 5 lakh people are converting to Buddhism in gujrat so please go their raise your questions because medium you used here is insufficient n wrng.
nvas4u 9 months ago
@nvas4u OMG!! So here we are..!
ravysaraf 9 months ago
what a peace of mind !! very sweet
ccoolcat 1 year ago
When i hear this i feel as if i am in my home.
kulkarninitin80 1 year ago 2
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akshaykulkarni 1 year ago
very beautiful and peaceful, thanks for it!
disneylover45 3 years ago
Hare Krishna!!
candrakaladevidasi 3 years ago