No doubt about it. The Danelectro is a bargain. Two beers and a tweak here or there and no one would know the difference except the money they paid for one or the other. The Timmy may last longer but for the cash starved musician Dans are an easy decision to purchase for good tone. Amazing.
Its close enough, to the point where if you don't have that much money its an excelent stand in. Yeah I know blah blah save your money for the real thing I'm sure if your a high gain there is absolutly no difference.
@spicecrop Thanks for the tip. I'm not necessarily a "tone purist" in that I think everything should be like it was in the 50s or whatever. For instance; I use a Vox v847 bone stock with no true-bypass or 9vdc jack installed. There is a particular frequency the buffered bypass attenuates when the wah is off that simply cannot be accomplished by rolling back treble or presence knobs. I'll definitely look into the PepTone! 'Preeesh-yate-chya!
try to keep them the same as much as i can? and then make them sound totally different? to be fair anyway the timmy should be direct into the amp too at some point. I can only guess that the cheap danalectro pedal is not true bypass witch will affect the tone of the first pedal.
I bought a Dano TOD and it was fine for what it is. I sent it back, because when something bills itself as "Transparent OD" it better do a good clean-ish boost. It wasn't loud enough to do so, I figured I'd peer at the circuit and see can't I tweak it. NOPE! It uses those sub-mini components. Which DO NOT WORK THE SAME FOR AUDIO! Good for the jack you DON'T have to cough up, but I have a great BD2 for tones like that. Someone said 'Blanket over it' and I agree.
@theguitarczar If your looking for a good clean boost , you should check out the PEPTONE clean boost. just one knob for volume. totally transparent. Best boost I have found.
I was impressed by the CTO-1 V1, but my BB Preamp always sounded so much better that I had to get rid of it. The Timmy is also worth the extra money, IMO. You think the tone is that transparent until you try the Timmy or BB, and realize it's not quite on the same level. There was always a noticeable fizz when the gain was up past 60% on the Dano, too. Never liked the little backsided knobs, either. It's still a decent sounding pedal for the money, but the "real" things truely are better.
in a studio situation the timmy would be the obviuos choice. But for an amateur guitarist who plays most of his gigs in shitty venues with poor PA's the dano is better, i mean noone in the audience is gonna notice much change... and even less when youre playing with a drummer and a bassist.
I listened to this without watching the video as to not be biased. Thought the Timmy sounded significantly better. For sure people it may not be worth $80. I personally think it is. Tone is important and anything that can make your guitar sound better is worth as much money as you are willing to pay. Plus, dude makes these pedals handmade in the US. I'm all about supporting that.
the signal that we are getting (the audio) is also not exactly right. I hear that watery (i call it pixel static) its basically digital static from file compression. I love my dano CTO 1 and 2. They are great pedals. Im sure i would love the timmy also, but im not gonna listen to this and make my final judgment. Although it does sound similar, im not convinced.
The Timmy is definitely clearer and more transparent sounding... The Danelectro sounds - not full - but kinda too full, like comparing someone talking normally to someone talking with their mouth full... muffled.
that dano seems like my EarnyBall Vpjr. sucking tone. big bastard go suck my balls. Timmy is 100times beter, wich is quite normal since it coasts 100times more.
both pedals can have the same circuit and sound different. the danelectro probably uses cheaper components. i like the danelectro sound more midrangy.
@krispatel1 I'd rather not add an extra pedal in the chain to make up for the lack of another pedal. What I'll probably actually end up doing is building my own Tim inspired pedal, since I know how to do that now. I don't think the Tim is that expensive anyway??? for a high profile, hand-made, thoughtfully designed botique pedal, that is
Scumkill2@ dude I know , but then snobs are idiots , cause all their "premium" pedals were only used by guitarists in the first place cuz their cheap , think about it , guitarists tend to buy cheap yet good sounding pedals to go on the road , most end up using them all the time which is what gives them value
I've owned a dano TOD for just under a year , and it IMO is the best lighter sounding od out there , sorry but the Timmy doesn't way in in my book, although it looks cooler and has a bigger price tag , it misses somthing when played on a strat ( my native instrument) , weras the TOD excells , and it's incredibly durable , it's been kicked , dropped , stomped on , run over and been on the road and it still works just as good as when I got it :)
can't speak for the Dano, but i own a Timmy and it is the best OD pedal i've ever had, and after thirty plus years of playing with pedals that is quite a compliment!
The Danelectro sounds like a boxy, muffled $40 pedal. Just like I thought it would. You get what you pay for. Buy a tim/timmy. They are worth the wait.
Wow, the overdrives are very similar. The Timmy seems a little more transparent while the Dano colours the tone slightly. The Dano sure is a great value.
Just looked at getting a Timmy and looks like they are presold for the rest of this year. Also looking and Wampler Paisley Drive.....
There are suttle differences...I think the Dano is a bit sharper perhaps a bit tinner on the top end but for my ears, and I am a professional musician Id say id spend my money on the dano. The other pedel, however nice is way the fuc* over priced
@5:45 Jack finally gets the dano (treble) tweaked and they are almost identical. I'm a Nashvillian and the Timmy is awesome ($115) it's manufactured 15 minutes from my back door but there is a 6 month backlog...just ordered the dano ($45) it'll be here in 3 days . I will have a Timmy someday...but not in 72 hrs....
I'm not listening on that great of headphones and in my opinion there's very little comparison. The Danelectro kind of gets that muffled/nasally tone that I dislike. Now that you can hardly get one of the Danelectros for less than $75 on eBay, it makes sense to shell out the extra dough and get the real deal -- if you can find em in stock.
Tone snobs who claim it is "not even close" are bluffing. The player on this video has a great ear, and he saw it as close. Drop the charade.
The Timmy is made with superior care and with superior parts. It is worth the money in terms of reliability and durability if nothing else. If that's not a concern for you, the Dano pedals are nice little items that make good sound accessible to all - which is the one and only real reason why the snobs hate them.
If circuits were copyrighted, wouldn't Ibanez be suing a couple thousand 808 cloners every year? Danelectro sucks because they try to bring out a pedal that sounds decent for a low price? Does everyone need pedals that can survive 300 gigs a year? Love my eyelet-board-hand-wired Menatone, but doesn't my $5 Dano Grilled cheese produce some funky tones? Is there a limit to the number of questions I can post?
The Dano is a joy to use - I own one and it is remarkable with a Les Paul into of all things - a Fender Super Champ XD...But, I have a 57 Deluxe too and a Cornford and a 60w Super Sonic and it gives all the rock tones you could wish for. Oh and £30 was all it cost new...
the timmy sounds a lot nicer but keep in mind that it sounds better to the toned musicians ears. musicians tend to play for people whose ears arent quite as toned. I would say the cool cat should be enough to gig with and not get booed at lol
Dano has more mids and I like it. I wouldn't say that Timmy sounds better than Dano. They're just different. I have Dano CC Drive and it sounds way too good for the price. Snobs will cry that it's just hype, but I would say Cool Cats are very well designed series and they have to be continued. One day they become rare jewels on second hand market.
It does sound a little more muffled but for a few tenners it's a great low-medium gain OD and like GMD said with some twiddling it could do a nigh-perfect imitation of the Timmy
i hope you do know that the knobs on the dano are regular cut knobs, but the timmy's knops work in the other direction. so 0 tone would mean the max amount of tone as opposed to the dano where 0 tone actually means 0.
@MikyLicker- not a chance, I'm actually anti-boutique in my approach. but if a boutique pedal sounds better I'm not going to deny it. use your ears, like I did.
i owned both pedals and the truth is that i sold the timmy to buy an OKKO drive simply becuz slightly different settings on dano sounds damn close the what i had with the timmy .... and for all you tone purists just put an eq pedals in front of your dano and it WILL sound the same ... remove the blank put the blank on ... release the fart in the can tone blah blah
Sounds close except for a little high freq rolloff with the Dano. In the end who really cares though. It's just distortion. Quit agonizing over hair-splitting differences with pedals and crank your amp instead. On a loud stage in a bar will you hear a difference?
@78hiwatts - I'll bet if the circuits inside the pedals were swapped with each other, you'd still be saying the same damn thing. LOL! Bias is helluva thing.
Good demo. Sometimes the Dano seems muffled, but others it doesn't. I bet if he boosted the treble, they would be very similar. I have the DTO and even though the controls are not as conveniently placed, it isn't that hard to get used to. After a few minutes, I had it down.
There's no way in hell those sound the same. Not saying the dan is bad sounding per se, however it's like he threw a blanket over the tone when the dan was on.
TRANSPARENT OD - sounds just as gainy, slightly louder
TIMMY - bass and treble have more definition, has less bass but it's not as saggy
*like always, it depends on what other gear you're using, how all of your gear complements/works against each other, what sound you're looking for, and what you're willing to pay.
Dano sound more muffled. Could probably get them very similar with a few cap changes in the Dano. Unless it's all SMD then it wouldn't be worth the hassle.
Dude, you didn't balance your dry level/overdrive level, but no matter, the CTO doesn't have that 'bite' the Timmy has, or the transparency. Myth busted.
@29396 still got to find that out, I have the CTO-1 and send a mail for a Timmy yesterday :-) But it's not that I would die without! I ordered it because I hate the knobs of the CTO-1; also, the pedal might be similar, but it's not the same by overall sound and function (eg: the CTO-1 has a mid bump, and the timmy has cut knobs while the CTO-1 are boost/cut). Get both and/or sell the CTO-1 once you have your timmy? :-)
I just came back from a music store and asked the saleperson if he carried CTO-1. He knew about the rev. change and said no we don't. I scoured through their fx boxes it was sitting right there. I showed it to him while he was in his smooth operator mode with another customer and his facial reaction was that of dramatic chipmunk. SOLD! Its home now.
same here, but i'm guessing if you play with the Dano a bit, you could clean it up i thinky.
The only annoying part is that a Timmy is, what, $170 ish? Where as I can get the Dano for $30? add the fish n' chip eq in front of it (best EQ i've used... funny isn't it?) and try to clean up the Dano tone even more. Basically a Timmy for $50...
The Timmy looks more sturdy... I would rehouse a Dano asap if I got one...
I'm all for supporting the little guy though I hope they get this all sorted out
wheres the point of "capture the intrincate tonal details" on a youtube audio?
I mean.....blah, forget it
I meant to hear the tonal details not heard through a standard computer speaker. Yes, with a pair of great headphones, you can hear intricate tonal details not heard with a tinny laptop speaker.
for a professional musian(I mean the one who play for people live) danelectro wont work, but for me that I play just at home danelectro is the best choice
Pro musicians don't make the money they used to so you can get pretty darn close to a $300.00 pedal tone for 40 bucks that works. People drinking and looking to score at a bar don't care about tone. Not to mention that your "killer tone" is being mic'd through a PA. Moving the mic one inch off a speaker sweet spot or knocking it off axis when your band mate bumps it with his foot is going do mkae the extra investment in a TIMMY go out the windows. Save the 200 + dollars and go with the Dano!.
the most offensive thing about this video is that if you swap out the parts on the danolectro for higher end equivalents, i bet it would sound just as good as the timmy. Even with the cheap parts, the difference is so marginal
- the timmy is $129.- not $300+ and that's a bargain for a handwired awesome quality unit!
- the dano (TOD-1) is all chinese machine built, micro smd components, discontinued and more than $40 on the used market now (i've even seen one on ebay for 99 bucks. CRAZY. Plus danelectro is evil for ripping of Paul C! ;)
@firstfireprd You're not a "Pro" Musician if you're only playing in bars. Also, know the mic an inch will not make that drastic of a difference if you're sound guy isn't a moron and has the gain up on the board enough to pick up any kind of sound. People who play in traveling bands for hundreds to thousands of people are "Pros" and it does matter to them. Not saying you're not a good musician you're just not a professional if you only play for wasted people in a bar.
The Dano seems to roll off a lot more of the high end. The timmy is (ironically) a lot more transparent I think. For 1/4 of the price you can't beat it though, I'd just put it in a new housing if you want to actually use it outside your house.
And also, no, Circuits can't be copyrighted because they're all too similar. 90% of all pedals wire a volume the same way or use the same tone control, and just about any good pedal is based off an older good pedal.
I also played them both side-by-side and got myself the Trans-OD only because it's NOT the same as the Timmy.
It's quite nice on it's own but if you put it in front of another OD (even a cheap one) at unity gain it'll actually improve the sound quite noticably.
My Trans-OD -> Marshall Jackhammer combo sounds so great it's shocking.
Dude you totely bot the right pedal. I heard they are coming out with a vintage relic Timmy that's only like a hundred dollars moar. I'm a totely get that when it comes out.
At around 6:00 the EQs were closer and the difference was more difficult to hear. Before that the Timmy I think had more treble and sounded clearer that the TOD.
Its what it is , the dan sounds like a cheaper Timmy , not bad but the Timmy has a much better professional sound , Dan has the similar sound with a blanket on.
The danelectro sounds good, but the Timmy sounds better to me. Never played either but just from this video the Timmy sounds better. Of course the Danelectro is dirt cheap.
The Dano can't hold a candle to the Timmy. How can they be the same when they have a different tonestack? The Dano sounds muffled and compressed. I've been using the Timmy for a few years now and while I'm always on the look out for better OD boxes I keep coming back to the Timmy... simply put it can't be beat.
It's worth the $70 more to get the slightly better pedal and not rip off a guy with a family. He built the sound of that pedal and until he decides to quit making them, people shouldn't copy his stuff. When he does, I'll probably buy one of these, but not until then.
After watching both videos, with the Tele and the Les Paul, I think the Timmy sounds better with single coils, but I liked TOD better with humbukies. Go figure... But, wait! Here's were the price factor comes in! Were, since I'm not going pro or anything... ;-)
You can tell the Timmy...it comes out a lot clearer and cleaner. The TOD doesn't scream as well as the Timmy...actually it sounds like it muffles the sound a lot. TOD makes it sound as though your amp and speakers are in an enclosed room.
But for those who don't care about the sound the TOD is prolly a good steal.
definitely the Timmy sounds shriller most of the time, whereas the TOD sounded smoother overall. We can debate about parts and cost till the cows come home.. to each his own, but I gotta say... trust your EARS and your HEART.
all said and done, I think you could dial in the TOD to sound quite a bit like the Timmeh, maybe not perfectly. What's the price differential again? (I just got a TOD for $35, guess we'll see in a few days when it gets here)
In some ways there are similarities..but at a high volume I think the Timmy would win out. The audio on a video is always kinda cheezy...therefore we might not notice the difference so much..but ITs there. And even with that going on..the Timmy just sounds better. If you want a transparent OD, Id get the Timmy.
I agree the Dano isn't quite as clear as the Timmy, but for the price of the Timmy and the wait, the Timmy better be better. I can pick out the Timmy every time. But for the $40 it really is close enough and with a little EQ which we all have right? it would get you that tone, and running into an overdriven amp? probably couldn't tell that much of a difference.
Man, thanks for the comparisons. Really helped me out a lot. I'm getting the Dano. I'm poor. In this comparison they do sound different but I don't think the Timmy necessarily sounds better. A little more tweaking with the Dano would probably help as the pot tapers may be different as you said. I'll find out soon. I wonder what the Version 2 Dano OD will sound like. Keep us informed.
after buying one if the danos i can say it is a great pedal - but you do need to spend some time with the settings, definitely not a pedal that you can just plug and play with. i'll be doing a demo of the dano soon to demonstrate this.
really, to me the TImmy sounded 100X better, it had more dynamics to it, it was much clearer sounding, it had more treble. The Dano sounded like a really well done POD setting or something.
Timmy has just a touch more sparkle that sets it over the top. The dano seemed to be bass heavy. Pretty dog gone impressive for a el-cheapo though. I have a surf and turf (ross clone supposedly) and it smoked my dynacomp that I've used for years. I can't help but wonder how long before it craps out or I step on it too hard. It's also tough to tell if I've hit the switch hard enough to get it on sometimes. Esp if outside and the led is difficult to see. Cool pedals, not as user friendly as others
Thanks for another great demo GMD. I have 6 OD boxes and favor my BBE Green Screamer but I ordered the CTO-1 from MF this morning. They have $49 free shipping so a bought the pedal and some strings.
I have to add this cheapo to the milk crate filled with pedals. It's not a Timmy but it gets you close. Should be a really nice home recording toy for $39...(why not?)
yeah i thought the Dano pedal sounded brighter on the first setting, then muddled on the others. not MUCH difference though. the people that continue to fill their pedal boards w/ expensive boutiques aren't gonna buy a Dano pedal anyway. no matter how "similar" they are.
This demo shows that dano isn't exact copy of timmy. It's similar pedal and suprisingly good quality one. Well, I don't need boutique, expensive stuff to feel better, especially when difference is almost none. I've got Cool Cat Drive and it hits my taste, so I wouldn't buy pretty the same thing (OCD) for 6x bigger price for brand, snob chit chat and all that void bollocks...
The DE is more open, but I think that for solos I'd like the CC because of it's compressed quality. Overall, the character is very similar. Not bad Dano!
same circuitry, different quality components, thats why the Dano sounds more compressed. Think about this way, you found the schematic of your favorite pedal but used parts that werent exactly the same quality as the original, ie ceramic vs orange drop, vs paper in oil capacitors. and the sonic quality would change noticeably, even if the values are same. Danelectro pedals use cheaper and lower quality parts than Paul Cochrane, but if you change the parts then boom same exact sound.
I shut my eyes and initially thought the DE was better on the lower register, but the difference became obvious once he started playing individual notes on the higher strings. The DE one kinda ended up muddy and lost some character.
Just my 2 cents. One thing's for sure; this vid showed that the DE is very much worth the money.
huhh... i shut my eyes too. I was in favor of the danelectro at first but then i listened and i could call the pedals each time. The danelectro sounds kind of muffled and doesnt have that fullness and character. Damn... wish my ears would agree with my wallet.
No doubt about it. The Danelectro is a bargain. Two beers and a tweak here or there and no one would know the difference except the money they paid for one or the other. The Timmy may last longer but for the cash starved musician Dans are an easy decision to purchase for good tone. Amazing.
robb4545 2 days ago
Its close enough, to the point where if you don't have that much money its an excelent stand in. Yeah I know blah blah save your money for the real thing I'm sure if your a high gain there is absolutly no difference.
crushingoverdrive 1 week ago
@spicecrop Thanks for the tip. I'm not necessarily a "tone purist" in that I think everything should be like it was in the 50s or whatever. For instance; I use a Vox v847 bone stock with no true-bypass or 9vdc jack installed. There is a particular frequency the buffered bypass attenuates when the wah is off that simply cannot be accomplished by rolling back treble or presence knobs. I'll definitely look into the PepTone! 'Preeesh-yate-chya!
theguitarczar 2 months ago
try to keep them the same as much as i can? and then make them sound totally different? to be fair anyway the timmy should be direct into the amp too at some point. I can only guess that the cheap danalectro pedal is not true bypass witch will affect the tone of the first pedal.
spicecrop 2 months ago
I think Dano sounds better gear dude
TheBarFliesBand 2 months ago
I think DANO sounds better
TheBarFliesBand 2 months ago
I bought a Dano TOD and it was fine for what it is. I sent it back, because when something bills itself as "Transparent OD" it better do a good clean-ish boost. It wasn't loud enough to do so, I figured I'd peer at the circuit and see can't I tweak it. NOPE! It uses those sub-mini components. Which DO NOT WORK THE SAME FOR AUDIO! Good for the jack you DON'T have to cough up, but I have a great BD2 for tones like that. Someone said 'Blanket over it' and I agree.
theguitarczar 2 months ago
@theguitarczar If your looking for a good clean boost , you should check out the PEPTONE clean boost. just one knob for volume. totally transparent. Best boost I have found.
spicecrop 2 months ago
there is a blanket over the Dano compared to the timmy, hands down
glassbottleblues 3 months ago
@glassbottleblues I have to agree. I have the Dano, and it sounds good at first, but after a few minutes I just want to turn it off.
therealmiddy 2 days ago
6 months waiting? thats nuts!
blueleadguitar 3 months ago
timmy sounds more trebly
tothetop777 3 months ago
I was impressed by the CTO-1 V1, but my BB Preamp always sounded so much better that I had to get rid of it. The Timmy is also worth the extra money, IMO. You think the tone is that transparent until you try the Timmy or BB, and realize it's not quite on the same level. There was always a noticeable fizz when the gain was up past 60% on the Dano, too. Never liked the little backsided knobs, either. It's still a decent sounding pedal for the money, but the "real" things truely are better.
MrMatthewLeo 4 months ago
in a studio situation the timmy would be the obviuos choice. But for an amateur guitarist who plays most of his gigs in shitty venues with poor PA's the dano is better, i mean noone in the audience is gonna notice much change... and even less when youre playing with a drummer and a bassist.
chuecco 4 months ago
@chuecco
This is probably true. Many folks won't notice any difference, and there are so many variables. If YOU can hear it, though, it's all a moot point.
MrMatthewLeo 4 months ago
DANO COMPANY IS A CLONER
askwho69 4 months ago
the funny thing is I am looking for a pedal that will give me harmonics like I get with EL84's and a compressor but with clean 6L6s
that is why I am interested in the Timmy all that extra gain just sounds the same to me
dpkingbluesguitar 5 months ago
I listened to this without watching the video as to not be biased. Thought the Timmy sounded significantly better. For sure people it may not be worth $80. I personally think it is. Tone is important and anything that can make your guitar sound better is worth as much money as you are willing to pay. Plus, dude makes these pedals handmade in the US. I'm all about supporting that.
Masvolta 5 months ago
the signal that we are getting (the audio) is also not exactly right. I hear that watery (i call it pixel static) its basically digital static from file compression. I love my dano CTO 1 and 2. They are great pedals. Im sure i would love the timmy also, but im not gonna listen to this and make my final judgment. Although it does sound similar, im not convinced.
TheMattinara 5 months ago
The Timmy is definitely clearer and more transparent sounding... The Danelectro sounds - not full - but kinda too full, like comparing someone talking normally to someone talking with their mouth full... muffled.
flatulentmatt 6 months ago
He does get it closer at around 5.45 , but it still has that kinda muffled feeling...
flatulentmatt 6 months ago
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NunkaOlvidar 6 months ago
that dano seems like my EarnyBall Vpjr. sucking tone. big bastard go suck my balls. Timmy is 100times beter, wich is quite normal since it coasts 100times more.
LegalizeProductions 7 months ago
@LegalizeProductions wrong, the Danelectro pedal sounds good, and Timmy better, but no $ 100 more, your ear needs a doctor
NunkaOlvidar 6 months ago
both pedals can have the same circuit and sound different. the danelectro probably uses cheaper components. i like the danelectro sound more midrangy.
POWPOWNATOR 7 months ago
dano sounds boxier than the timmy (and less "Transparent") I like the bite and balls of the Tim.
monkeyxx 7 months ago
@monkeyxx you can solve that with an eq pedal, and then save loads of your dosh
krispatel1 7 months ago
@krispatel1 I'd rather not add an extra pedal in the chain to make up for the lack of another pedal. What I'll probably actually end up doing is building my own Tim inspired pedal, since I know how to do that now. I don't think the Tim is that expensive anyway??? for a high profile, hand-made, thoughtfully designed botique pedal, that is
monkeyxx 7 months ago
Scumkill2@ dude I know , but then snobs are idiots , cause all their "premium" pedals were only used by guitarists in the first place cuz their cheap , think about it , guitarists tend to buy cheap yet good sounding pedals to go on the road , most end up using them all the time which is what gives them value
13Musicmachine 7 months ago
I've owned a dano TOD for just under a year , and it IMO is the best lighter sounding od out there , sorry but the Timmy doesn't way in in my book, although it looks cooler and has a bigger price tag , it misses somthing when played on a strat ( my native instrument) , weras the TOD excells , and it's incredibly durable , it's been kicked , dropped , stomped on , run over and been on the road and it still works just as good as when I got it :)
13Musicmachine 7 months ago
whats the song at the beginning doing my head in I cant find it?
steve1969pierce 8 months ago
@steve1969pierce
Rumblin' Train by Badlands, Jake e Lee on guitar...smokin!!
giantrobot9000 6 months ago
@giantrobot9000 brilliant thanks,,,,,I knew I knew it!!! Best Band ever!!!!
steve1969pierce 6 months ago
can't speak for the Dano, but i own a Timmy and it is the best OD pedal i've ever had, and after thirty plus years of playing with pedals that is quite a compliment!
userboy6 8 months ago
Is it bad that i prefer the danelectro?
JRNicholson27794 8 months ago
The Danelectro sounds like a boxy, muffled $40 pedal. Just like I thought it would. You get what you pay for. Buy a tim/timmy. They are worth the wait.
ShaneLeesNumber1Fan 8 months ago
The DAno makes it sound like the speaker shrinks down and the top end to rolled way down. The Timmy is more organic and lively.
snouter 8 months ago
Wow, the overdrives are very similar. The Timmy seems a little more transparent while the Dano colours the tone slightly. The Dano sure is a great value.
Just looked at getting a Timmy and looks like they are presold for the rest of this year. Also looking and Wampler Paisley Drive.....
J5
jammers5 9 months ago
I just brought both! :O Use the timmy as a clean boost and danny as a mid range transparent drive
timgaskell 11 months ago
There are suttle differences...I think the Dano is a bit sharper perhaps a bit tinner on the top end but for my ears, and I am a professional musician Id say id spend my money on the dano. The other pedel, however nice is way the fuc* over priced
bearboneskentuck 11 months ago
i hear no difference.
hxcFluffy 11 months ago
@5:45 Jack finally gets the dano (treble) tweaked and they are almost identical. I'm a Nashvillian and the Timmy is awesome ($115) it's manufactured 15 minutes from my back door but there is a 6 month backlog...just ordered the dano ($45) it'll be here in 3 days . I will have a Timmy someday...but not in 72 hrs....
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nylonsteel 3 months ago
Killer boots man
gyarr 11 months ago
Danelectro ishave more warmed tone.like that and that stuff only 25 bucks
goforHim 11 months ago
I'm not listening on that great of headphones and in my opinion there's very little comparison. The Danelectro kind of gets that muffled/nasally tone that I dislike. Now that you can hardly get one of the Danelectros for less than $75 on eBay, it makes sense to shell out the extra dough and get the real deal -- if you can find em in stock.
seansulli 11 months ago
Well, the Timmy does sound clearer and brighter, but for the money Dano does a fine job.
BrettHoustonTube 1 year ago
great concept man!!!!!
amazing good made comparison!!!!!
nice payin (no pubescent shreddin'...i love your classy style and nice woman tone)
THX again from Berlin
MichelVonBerlin 1 year ago
Close but no cigar.
tyl0r900 1 year ago
Tone snobs who claim it is "not even close" are bluffing. The player on this video has a great ear, and he saw it as close. Drop the charade.
The Timmy is made with superior care and with superior parts. It is worth the money in terms of reliability and durability if nothing else. If that's not a concern for you, the Dano pedals are nice little items that make good sound accessible to all - which is the one and only real reason why the snobs hate them.
ivylotus 1 year ago
The Timmy sounds a lot better to my very amateur ears.
TheResnick80 1 year ago
got the danelectro...damn cool pedal for the money. It actually works better as a clean boost, than it does as an actual OD.
theruley 1 year ago
BADLANDS RULES, RUMBLIN' TRAIN!!!
snatchsour 1 year ago
If circuits were copyrighted, wouldn't Ibanez be suing a couple thousand 808 cloners every year? Danelectro sucks because they try to bring out a pedal that sounds decent for a low price? Does everyone need pedals that can survive 300 gigs a year? Love my eyelet-board-hand-wired Menatone, but doesn't my $5 Dano Grilled cheese produce some funky tones? Is there a limit to the number of questions I can post?
stevemend 1 year ago
Timmy sounds so good. I had one Dan Electro pedal and that was all she wrote. Avoid at all costs.
DMBFan985 1 year ago
I prefer the sound of the CTO-1 in this clip. Sounds less brittle than the timmy.
slimturnpike 1 year ago
I prefer the sound of the CTO-1 in this clip.
slimturnpike 1 year ago
timmmmaaaayyyy!....sorry had to
InstrumentalofMe 1 year ago
The Dano is a joy to use - I own one and it is remarkable with a Les Paul into of all things - a Fender Super Champ XD...But, I have a 57 Deluxe too and a Cornford and a 60w Super Sonic and it gives all the rock tones you could wish for. Oh and £30 was all it cost new...
snotmale 1 year ago
the timmy sounds a lot nicer but keep in mind that it sounds better to the toned musicians ears. musicians tend to play for people whose ears arent quite as toned. I would say the cool cat should be enough to gig with and not get booed at lol
funnyone222 1 year ago
timmy won
dan122189 1 year ago
Dano has more mids and I like it. I wouldn't say that Timmy sounds better than Dano. They're just different. I have Dano CC Drive and it sounds way too good for the price. Snobs will cry that it's just hype, but I would say Cool Cats are very well designed series and they have to be continued. One day they become rare jewels on second hand market.
Scumkill2 1 year ago
Heard that all Dan Electro pedals are really cheap right?
b44styreraug 1 year ago
Dano is a tone sucker!
garrettbundick 1 year ago
@garrettbundick
not true!! this pedal is true bypass!!
marxxx33 1 year ago
not even a close one, the timmy owned it. oh well..
aawshred 1 year ago
It does sound a little more muffled but for a few tenners it's a great low-medium gain OD and like GMD said with some twiddling it could do a nigh-perfect imitation of the Timmy
Monkeyboardman 1 year ago
i hope you do know that the knobs on the dano are regular cut knobs, but the timmy's knops work in the other direction. so 0 tone would mean the max amount of tone as opposed to the dano where 0 tone actually means 0.
JManNastyJ 1 year ago
To anyone who says the Dano sounds muffled: just roll the damn tone knob up. Might as well say the Timmy has less body to it.
Still... I prefer the Timmy.
jb1563700 1 year ago
@MikyLicker- not a chance, I'm actually anti-boutique in my approach. but if a boutique pedal sounds better I'm not going to deny it. use your ears, like I did.
78hiwatts 1 year ago
damn, ive only seen one person use the TOD in their live rig. it seems like everyone would use it, especialy for $70 or however mush it costs
TheRealErob 1 year ago
the dan pedal sounds as cheap as a marked down prostitute at the dollar mart
secretseventyseven 1 year ago
@secretseventyseven
Your mum does...
colonelerotic 1 year ago 2
I kinda like the Dana, the tone has more girth to it.
rpc530 1 year ago
I like the timmy better... has more of a presence. i have to say... i would get the transparent overdrive anyways to save my butt money! lol
treato0 1 year ago
@treato0 we don't need to hear about your butt money :-P
BradSpead7 1 year ago
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treato0 1 year ago
Transparent overdrive sounds more muffeled. but it is much less in cost. Dano wins.
ragingvortexmetal 1 year ago
i owned both pedals and the truth is that i sold the timmy to buy an OKKO drive simply becuz slightly different settings on dano sounds damn close the what i had with the timmy .... and for all you tone purists just put an eq pedals in front of your dano and it WILL sound the same ... remove the blank put the blank on ... release the fart in the can tone blah blah
funkyMonk1985 1 year ago
Sounds close except for a little high freq rolloff with the Dano. In the end who really cares though. It's just distortion. Quit agonizing over hair-splitting differences with pedals and crank your amp instead. On a loud stage in a bar will you hear a difference?
dbhammond 1 year ago 2
not even close the Timmy sounds way more" transparent"
78hiwatts 1 year ago
@78hiwatts - I'll bet if the circuits inside the pedals were swapped with each other, you'd still be saying the same damn thing. LOL! Bias is helluva thing.
MilkyLicker3587 1 year ago
Good demo. Sometimes the Dano seems muffled, but others it doesn't. I bet if he boosted the treble, they would be very similar. I have the DTO and even though the controls are not as conveniently placed, it isn't that hard to get used to. After a few minutes, I had it down.
jimmy5634 1 year ago
There is no law stopping you from cloning circuits. Perfectly legal.
I think the big pedal guys are starting to wise up...
1RIB100 1 year ago
Damn close, a little more top end sparkle on the Timmy, but damn close
GoldtopSam 1 year ago
i like that jam at the end, what song is that?
xntrickk 1 year ago
@xntrickk The Black Keys. Get amongst it.
ThreePieceDenimSuit 1 year ago
There's no way in hell those sound the same. Not saying the dan is bad sounding per se, however it's like he threw a blanket over the tone when the dan was on.
flaegin 1 year ago
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thmsrojo 1 year ago
TRANSPARENT OD - sounds just as gainy, slightly louder
TIMMY - bass and treble have more definition, has less bass but it's not as saggy
*like always, it depends on what other gear you're using, how all of your gear complements/works against each other, what sound you're looking for, and what you're willing to pay.
Ncuab 1 year ago
Damn.. i must say Timmy sounds abit more clearer...-_-
ForeverSoul 1 year ago
Dano v1 ftw!
paulignacius 1 year ago
Dano sound more muffled. Could probably get them very similar with a few cap changes in the Dano. Unless it's all SMD then it wouldn't be worth the hassle.
naisian331 1 year ago
Dude, you didn't balance your dry level/overdrive level, but no matter, the CTO doesn't have that 'bite' the Timmy has, or the transparency. Myth busted.
GoldtopSam 1 year ago
well that myths been smashed ta pieces
78hiwatts 1 year ago
would it be worth the savings if i bought the CTO and modded and rehoused it?
29396 1 year ago
I don't think so; the Timmy is not that expensive, so in the end it will cost you maybe about the same if you want to have a good locking pedal.
Sick1982 1 year ago
but the waiting list is so damn long..
29396 1 year ago
@29396 still got to find that out, I have the CTO-1 and send a mail for a Timmy yesterday :-) But it's not that I would die without! I ordered it because I hate the knobs of the CTO-1; also, the pedal might be similar, but it's not the same by overall sound and function (eg: the CTO-1 has a mid bump, and the timmy has cut knobs while the CTO-1 are boost/cut). Get both and/or sell the CTO-1 once you have your timmy? :-)
Sick1982 1 year ago
Sounds like a plan!
29396 1 year ago
THanks for takin some time to do these demos.
I just came back from a music store and asked the saleperson if he carried CTO-1. He knew about the rev. change and said no we don't. I scoured through their fx boxes it was sitting right there. I showed it to him while he was in his smooth operator mode with another customer and his facial reaction was that of dramatic chipmunk. SOLD! Its home now.
pissballs 1 year ago
i love the black keys
bobandskipper 1 year ago
the guitar looks like lennon's
nymetsrock 2 years ago
Wow Timmy sounds way better to me. Also Danelectro has probably the ugliest looking pedals IMO. The timmy is more unique and hand built.
timjr5000 2 years ago
Yes,Timmy sounds cleaner,the Dano sounds muffled.
And the Timmy sounds fuller.
locoed11 2 years ago
The Timmy sounds clearer to my ears. More sparkle. Plus, Paul is the "little guy" here (and very nice too). Support small pedal builders!!!
PerFusionist80 2 years ago
same here, but i'm guessing if you play with the Dano a bit, you could clean it up i thinky.
The only annoying part is that a Timmy is, what, $170 ish? Where as I can get the Dano for $30? add the fish n' chip eq in front of it (best EQ i've used... funny isn't it?) and try to clean up the Dano tone even more. Basically a Timmy for $50...
The Timmy looks more sturdy... I would rehouse a Dano asap if I got one...
I'm all for supporting the little guy though I hope they get this all sorted out
primusbadger 2 years ago
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wheres the point of "capture the intrincate tonal details" on a youtube audio?
I mean.....blah, forget it
I meant to hear the tonal details not heard through a standard computer speaker. Yes, with a pair of great headphones, you can hear intricate tonal details not heard with a tinny laptop speaker.
itscodyxx 2 years ago
Danelectro sounds best to me. I just purchased two on ebay!
jcoopercam 2 years ago
Man I hate to say it but I like the Danelectro better.
JoePerry4Life1 2 years ago
So, I just listened to this demo through a pair of Grado SR-80's to capture the intricate tonal details.
Is it exact? No. For rhythm, the Timmy wins by a trifling amount. However, for lead tones, I definitely prefer the Danelectro. This is just me though.
I am thinking buying a Cool Cat, rehousing and modding them then using it to compliment my Blackstar HT-Drive.
itscodyxx 2 years ago
wheres the point of "capture the intrincate tonal details" on a youtube audio?
I mean.....blah, forget it
youtuveunperromongol 2 years ago
Sounds alike, The danelectro sounds better
bbs209 2 years ago
for a professional musian(I mean the one who play for people live) danelectro wont work, but for me that I play just at home danelectro is the best choice
nirson123 2 years ago
@nirson123 Why not, I mean, it sounds good?
(Got to say that I never fiddle with my pedals live)
JerryBeatFreak 2 years ago
because when they pay you for play, 2% of better sound is worth(at least thats why I think)
nirson123 2 years ago
@nirson123 Thats true. And cheaper pedals usually are a bit noisy.
JerryBeatFreak 2 years ago
Pro musicians don't make the money they used to so you can get pretty darn close to a $300.00 pedal tone for 40 bucks that works. People drinking and looking to score at a bar don't care about tone. Not to mention that your "killer tone" is being mic'd through a PA. Moving the mic one inch off a speaker sweet spot or knocking it off axis when your band mate bumps it with his foot is going do mkae the extra investment in a TIMMY go out the windows. Save the 200 + dollars and go with the Dano!.
firstfireprd 2 years ago 9
@firstfireprd if you tone quest is based around what the audience thinks sounds good you're doing it wrong
mattlittler89 1 year ago
@firstfireprd totally right.
the most offensive thing about this video is that if you swap out the parts on the danolectro for higher end equivalents, i bet it would sound just as good as the timmy. Even with the cheap parts, the difference is so marginal
birdiejoehoaks 1 year ago
@firstfireprd:
- the timmy is $129.- not $300+ and that's a bargain for a handwired awesome quality unit!
- the dano (TOD-1) is all chinese machine built, micro smd components, discontinued and more than $40 on the used market now (i've even seen one on ebay for 99 bucks. CRAZY. Plus danelectro is evil for ripping of Paul C! ;)
I'd rather buy the real thing!
seicheberlin 1 year ago
@firstfireprd You're not a "Pro" Musician if you're only playing in bars. Also, know the mic an inch will not make that drastic of a difference if you're sound guy isn't a moron and has the gain up on the board enough to pick up any kind of sound. People who play in traveling bands for hundreds to thousands of people are "Pros" and it does matter to them. Not saying you're not a good musician you're just not a professional if you only play for wasted people in a bar.
iamlucas2012 8 months ago
You didn't really set them too much the same up until about 4:25. That's when you could really hear some similarity.
patrickisbusy 2 years ago
CO-1 tone controls are not only cut but boost, 1 o'clock is near neutral
godfree2canada 2 years ago
i don't like the shrill tone the Timmy spits out..
bitzmil 2 years ago
i thought the timmy was a little more brittle in the highs.... uh oh
snowbrdr88 2 years ago
Wonder about the V2 version??
05rsx 2 years ago
I'd like to see this video redone with the new version two of the transparent overdrive.
guitardbucket 2 years ago
timmy is definately more transparent
just sounds a little nicer, notes are crisper and clearer.
lovehopetruthart 2 years ago 5
The Dano seems to roll off a lot more of the high end. The timmy is (ironically) a lot more transparent I think. For 1/4 of the price you can't beat it though, I'd just put it in a new housing if you want to actually use it outside your house.
And also, no, Circuits can't be copyrighted because they're all too similar. 90% of all pedals wire a volume the same way or use the same tone control, and just about any good pedal is based off an older good pedal.
Der1metzger 2 years ago
I also played them both side-by-side and got myself the Trans-OD only because it's NOT the same as the Timmy.
It's quite nice on it's own but if you put it in front of another OD (even a cheap one) at unity gain it'll actually improve the sound quite noticably.
My Trans-OD -> Marshall Jackhammer combo sounds so great it's shocking.
ChrisDN 2 years ago
Dude you totely bot the right pedal. I heard they are coming out with a vintage relic Timmy that's only like a hundred dollars moar. I'm a totely get that when it comes out.
pswoods 2 years ago
going from the dano to the timmy is like going from mono to stereo
schemer43 2 years ago
At around 6:00 the EQs were closer and the difference was more difficult to hear. Before that the Timmy I think had more treble and sounded clearer that the TOD.
NapalmBBQ 2 years ago
I immediately regret not picking up some rattlesnake boots while I was in Texas.
NapalmBBQ 2 years ago
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Jack Black, you have been exposed!!!!!!!
TTmaniax 2 years ago
Hmmm, I actually prefer the Dano. It sounds smoother and the break-up sounds tighter.
I'll be getting a Dano for that reason, and that I can afford one.
hotpoot 2 years ago
Its what it is , the dan sounds like a cheaper Timmy , not bad but the Timmy has a much better professional sound , Dan has the similar sound with a blanket on.
yesmon4real 2 years ago 5
The danelectro sounds good, but the Timmy sounds better to me. Never played either but just from this video the Timmy sounds better. Of course the Danelectro is dirt cheap.
glaurung26 2 years ago 3
The danosounds a little like an OCD mixed with a fuzz pedal.
Ilovemyfender2 2 years ago
The Dano can't hold a candle to the Timmy. How can they be the same when they have a different tonestack? The Dano sounds muffled and compressed. I've been using the Timmy for a few years now and while I'm always on the look out for better OD boxes I keep coming back to the Timmy... simply put it can't be beat.
PJBlandford 2 years ago
Agree, the Dano sounds muffled and compressed.
Mattwearsabluehat 2 years ago 10
@Mattwearsabluehat
very true...but sounds really alike just that timmy is more organic...
philotze 1 year ago
@Mattwearsabluehat
You could fix that with the EQ. But I agree, it definitely sounds really muffeled
TheMaddoxfam 1 year ago
@Mattwearsabluehat
You could fix that with the EQ. But I agree, it definitely sounds really muffled
TheMaddoxfam 1 year ago
It's worth the $70 more to get the slightly better pedal and not rip off a guy with a family. He built the sound of that pedal and until he decides to quit making them, people shouldn't copy his stuff. When he does, I'll probably buy one of these, but not until then.
joshie4330 2 years ago
After watching both videos, with the Tele and the Les Paul, I think the Timmy sounds better with single coils, but I liked TOD better with humbukies. Go figure... But, wait! Here's were the price factor comes in! Were, since I'm not going pro or anything... ;-)
HectorArcadius 2 years ago
You can tell the Timmy...it comes out a lot clearer and cleaner. The TOD doesn't scream as well as the Timmy...actually it sounds like it muffles the sound a lot. TOD makes it sound as though your amp and speakers are in an enclosed room.
But for those who don't care about the sound the TOD is prolly a good steal.
pojhmongyang 2 years ago
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Sick1982 2 years ago
definitely the Timmy sounds shriller most of the time, whereas the TOD sounded smoother overall. We can debate about parts and cost till the cows come home.. to each his own, but I gotta say... trust your EARS and your HEART.
ErrikWong 2 years ago
good comparisons, thanks for posting it
all said and done, I think you could dial in the TOD to sound quite a bit like the Timmeh, maybe not perfectly. What's the price differential again? (I just got a TOD for $35, guess we'll see in a few days when it gets here)
orbitration 2 years ago
In some ways there are similarities..but at a high volume I think the Timmy would win out. The audio on a video is always kinda cheezy...therefore we might not notice the difference so much..but ITs there. And even with that going on..the Timmy just sounds better. If you want a transparent OD, Id get the Timmy.
GtrGeorge 2 years ago
I agree the Dano isn't quite as clear as the Timmy, but for the price of the Timmy and the wait, the Timmy better be better. I can pick out the Timmy every time. But for the $40 it really is close enough and with a little EQ which we all have right? it would get you that tone, and running into an overdriven amp? probably couldn't tell that much of a difference.
SGPlayer0008 2 years ago
Man, thanks for the comparisons. Really helped me out a lot. I'm getting the Dano. I'm poor. In this comparison they do sound different but I don't think the Timmy necessarily sounds better. A little more tweaking with the Dano would probably help as the pot tapers may be different as you said. I'll find out soon. I wonder what the Version 2 Dano OD will sound like. Keep us informed.
IStoleYourPotatoes 2 years ago
that danelectro sounds smooth. I like it!
tolleck 2 years ago
so let's mythbust...i mean, let's bust myths...or...uh...let's mythbust. No let's bust myths! LOL
ilovemyfender1 2 years ago 14
I'm currently using the Dano for a solo boost.
or trying to, rather. I get feedback rather easily. Any ideas for settings for a slight volume boost and a bit of gain added on?
copilottheband 2 years ago
after buying one if the danos i can say it is a great pedal - but you do need to spend some time with the settings, definitely not a pedal that you can just plug and play with. i'll be doing a demo of the dano soon to demonstrate this.
dvschsa 2 years ago
The Dano sounds like the Timmy, only you're listening to it from the next room, with the door closed.
rockytoplespaul 2 years ago
really, to me the TImmy sounded 100X better, it had more dynamics to it, it was much clearer sounding, it had more treble. The Dano sounded like a really well done POD setting or something.
Nofuture91 2 years ago
that is what i don't like about the timmy, it is a bit shrill.
dvschsa 2 years ago
Timmy has just a touch more sparkle that sets it over the top. The dano seemed to be bass heavy. Pretty dog gone impressive for a el-cheapo though. I have a surf and turf (ross clone supposedly) and it smoked my dynacomp that I've used for years. I can't help but wonder how long before it craps out or I step on it too hard. It's also tough to tell if I've hit the switch hard enough to get it on sometimes. Esp if outside and the led is difficult to see. Cool pedals, not as user friendly as others
cdc3j 2 years ago
the dano has a metal enclosure, actually.
true bypass, too.
copilottheband 2 years ago
"It's awfully damn close".....Indeed.
Thanks for another great demo GMD. I have 6 OD boxes and favor my BBE Green Screamer but I ordered the CTO-1 from MF this morning. They have $49 free shipping so a bought the pedal and some strings.
I have to add this cheapo to the milk crate filled with pedals. It's not a Timmy but it gets you close. Should be a really nice home recording toy for $39...(why not?)
Thanks GMD.
John
studio1087 2 years ago
yeah i thought the Dano pedal sounded brighter on the first setting, then muddled on the others. not MUCH difference though. the people that continue to fill their pedal boards w/ expensive boutiques aren't gonna buy a Dano pedal anyway. no matter how "similar" they are.
lesscunning 2 years ago
also. GREAT DEMO !!!
lesscunning 2 years ago
This demo shows that dano isn't exact copy of timmy. It's similar pedal and suprisingly good quality one. Well, I don't need boutique, expensive stuff to feel better, especially when difference is almost none. I've got Cool Cat Drive and it hits my taste, so I wouldn't buy pretty the same thing (OCD) for 6x bigger price for brand, snob chit chat and all that void bollocks...
Scumkill2 2 years ago
I agree they sound similar.. but the dano pedal sounds like you stuck the amp in a carboard box.. it sounds a bit cheaper .
therepenter 2 years ago
While I'm sure a person could have fun with either pedal, when they are A/B'd like this, to me, the Timmy vs the Dano sounds like FM vs AM.
flooflox 2 years ago
danelectro has a great great midhump... but it is not the same. It sounds more like a tottaly non transparent... ts-9!
marcelcruzeiro 2 years ago 2
The DE doesn't glaze it quite the same
MutantBanana 2 years ago 2
The DE is more open, but I think that for solos I'd like the CC because of it's compressed quality. Overall, the character is very similar. Not bad Dano!
GabonGuitarM 2 years ago 2
these are very different in quality but not character
davidnegreiro 2 years ago 2
same circuitry, different quality components, thats why the Dano sounds more compressed. Think about this way, you found the schematic of your favorite pedal but used parts that werent exactly the same quality as the original, ie ceramic vs orange drop, vs paper in oil capacitors. and the sonic quality would change noticeably, even if the values are same. Danelectro pedals use cheaper and lower quality parts than Paul Cochrane, but if you change the parts then boom same exact sound.
strikerfox1 2 years ago 3
I shut my eyes and initially thought the DE was better on the lower register, but the difference became obvious once he started playing individual notes on the higher strings. The DE one kinda ended up muddy and lost some character.
Just my 2 cents. One thing's for sure; this vid showed that the DE is very much worth the money.
Reveltt 2 years ago
huhh... i shut my eyes too. I was in favor of the danelectro at first but then i listened and i could call the pedals each time. The danelectro sounds kind of muffled and doesnt have that fullness and character. Damn... wish my ears would agree with my wallet.
BlueBarrier782 2 years ago
The timmy has more presence and a slightly richer tone - the danelectro sounds a bit crude.
BlindSummit 2 years ago
TOD sounds fizzyer.
amarr1 2 years ago