@PaganDeathKnight I did forget something Professor. You do know the Italian Mafia existed in the Old Country right? And made the voyage to America? And preyed on their own kind to get a leg up as a criminal element of immigrants are want to do? Like modern Russians? Or West Indians? Or Hispanics? It's part of immigration you fucking jackass
@PaganDeathKnight Really DoucheKnight? "Stifle" the pathetic emo rantings like you said you would on your sockpuppet account over at the CWCki Forums okay? "Grigor Stoyanovich?" Thanks alot in advance. And nice eyebrows you ugly fuck.
@gespb32 Don't bother with him brother. You can go to the YT channel "ALogIsAHuegFaggot" to see how he's playing the dancing monkey now for the internet's enjoyment because he's being "bullied" or something for being a pseudo intellectual/toughguy on the internet.
I love the Tones though. Ignore self confessed retarded people.
He lives in Roanoke, Virginia. Yes, he's dumb enough to tell people where he lives. Go look at one of his videos, I mean how intimidating is THAT? Take care.
@mickabe I know, its the down side of the internet in reality, if you go through the videos dedicated to our people you will always see these Walter Mittys, loyalists etc being brave behind a keyboard, they are identical to Anders Behring Brevik, in other words they are insane.
@PaganDeathKnight It is very easy being an online hardman isnt it? running down a race that willingly sent over 100,000 of its sons to volunteer to fight for the Union & over 80,000 to fight for the Confederacy.
The only "ape" here is the cowardly "pagandeathknight", either walk into an Irish bar & declare your hatred for our people & stand like a man.
But I know you will continue to exercise your internal frustrations behind the safety of a keyboard.
Ireland starved because its food, from 40 to 70 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint by 12,000 British constables reinforced by the British militia, battleships, excise vessels, Coast Guard and by 200,000 British soldiers (100,000 at any given moment) Thus, Britain seized from Ireland's producers tens of millions of head of livestock; tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry & dairy products; enough to sustain 18 million persons.
I dare say the establishment of the era was to blaim for a great many misdeeds, which all and every one, would be criminal. The truth is the English themselves suffered every bit as much under that system. It only changed as general suffrage was won, and then we're well, in the 1920's...
How Many Irish amongst the establishment did, by the way, abuse their position just as vigorously as the English, Scottish..take your pick men in power?
I say very few didn't. It happened in all nations then.
Absolutely right, The potato blight caused the Famine but the Crown could have helped save many, but didn't, and the English Liberal,Trevelyan was responsible, for showing no mercy !
They could, and did, and actually didn't think that sufficiently high enough numbers of Irish died to make any appreciable difference, the callousness leaves me gobsmacked !
The real tragedy is that there was no famine. Only the potato crop failed. At the same time people were dying of starvation, other food was being exported to England!
Well said, Poem: From the towns to the city A government without pity The people existed and bled Their dignity eroded, and pride all but gone Their babies and families unfed But the leaders of England With hearts made of stone Didn't care if the people should die They said market forces will sort it all out Then they closed their malevolent eye. Jo Sparkes Norfolk 4/3/2009
The brave 'Scotch-Irish' wannabes support: genocide, slavery, kidnapping, torture and abuse and live a high lifestyle at the expense of others!
ALL OF THE CHILDREN THAT YOU KIDNAPPED WANT TO RETURN TO THEIR MOTHERS! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SCUM AND I SWEAR TO GOD YOU WILL PAY SOMEDAY WITH YOUR LIVES!!!!
hey lincoln,your a fine one to talk, how many people did your country kill in vietnam,and thats not including mai lai etc, and how many treatys did your government break ,while committing genocide on the plains indians,as for slavery we abolished it in 1807,you 60 year later,and then had an apartied till the 1960s,as for torture and abuse ,klu klux clan how many did they lynch,and more recently that abu grave prison.and in cuba,take a look at yout own nation before slagging off others
Dude, nobody's saying these things were good things. Every country has to own up to its mistakes. The fact remains that the English continued to export huge amounts of food from Ireland while her people were dying of hunger in the ditches. Fact.
PS. It was Britian who imported slavery to all her colonies and created economies wholly dependent on it. The Founding Fathers attempted to get rid of it but the situation was that abolishing slavery would destroy solidarity for the Revolution. Fact.
the english wernt exporting food , the landlords in ireland were,the british government left it to the landlords to solve the food problem,greedy landowners and the britiish lack of urgency to solving the famine didnt help, ps england and scotland took in tens of thousands of irish ,america wwernt the only ones, the irish were treated very poorly wen arriving in america ,fact,
as for slavery,it was going on for centuries before the english started exporting slaves to the americas,
as i said the british stopped and actively punished slave traders in africa, america carried on for a futher 60 years , even after the so called freedom for all, blacks ,in the south especially were lynched ,had no chance in court, lived in the worst of houseing, right up to the 1960s ,seperate toilets, seperate schools,and universitys,couldnt use same cafes, had to sit on back of the bus,seperate battalions in the army etc,
that's true enough the Anglo Irish who it could be said were more English then the English themselves were the british government in Ireland they rigged elections to get themselves elected and the problem of absentee landlords was huge,men spending a fortune in London while upping rents to up keep there lavish lifestyles and exporting crops,the problem was so bad some advocated in westminster a new policy of plantations to remove some of the old Anglo Irish
@cmurphy2826 Better dig up the lawn and plant some potatoes, the USA is dependent on food imports now, at some point all exports may be stopped by govt. decree as Russia has done but when the dollar can't compete with other currencies, imports will be scarce, and we may find out why recently published disaster planning guidelines include killing all pet dogs.
You do realize that the Americans who perpetrated those crimes were English descendants right? Anglo-Saxons all over the world predate on other people. Crimes of America were committed by the Might of the English.
@Mujangga you tell the americans that , they rebelled in 1776 . from then on they were american, how many call themselves english american, compared to italian ,german and irish american, the americans at the time of the war of independence , was approx 50% english , 20 to 30% african , 20 % mixed european including german , irish and others , once they got independence their actions were no longer the fault of the british
@TheMightOfTheEnglish 20-30% Black... I don't think slaves can be blames for what happened. Here's a quote from Wikipedia: "By 1776 about 85% of the white population was of English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh descent, with 9% of German origin and 4% Dutch."
@Mujangga tell me about the spanish and their conquest of the americas , a long time before the english set foot there , the eradication of the incas and aztecs, the capital city of the aztecs was the largest city on earth at the time, their object was gold and filling the coffers of spain and rome , once the british by then were kicked out of the US they let in immigrants all over the world , by the time of the demise of the plains indians anglo saxons were in the minority in the USA
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I feel like a parent telling a child: "I don't care what your friends' parents let them do: we're talking about you here." The Spanish took gold from America like the English took food from Ireland. They speak Spanish in America like the speak English in Wales.
@Mujangga the british outlawed slavery in 1806 , americans in 1865 , and kept the blacks as 2nd class citizens until 1960s , americans speak english but have a completely different mentality , look within europe itself , who were the agressors and invaders since the 1500,s spain were the powerhouse , france were later then germany and russia, the spanish armada , tried to invade , paid partly by rome, napoleon tried to invade and invaded the whole of europe , hitler tried to invade to
@TheMightOfTheEnglish 2nd class citizens... Right, the people of brixton are often seen at the Royal Ascot... "No Niggers, No Irish, no Gods." There's PLENTY of racism in England. No one ever said Britain was the only invader; but we ARE talking about what the English DID do to the Irish, a point you seem to ignore by recount atrocities commited by other empires which actually means you admit to what you did so we are you arguing then?
@Mujangga , if britain was as racist as you believe , why do so many foreigners come here to these shores , people are objecting not because of their colour or who they are , its the sheer number , several years ago our population was 56 million , and had been for decades , now all of a sudden its 60million , not just coloured the biggest immigrants are eastern europeans , over a million poles , so people are worried here over jobs ,houses and the likes
@Mujangga and you,ll find the biggest racists of all out the minoritys , why? , there all to quick to pull the race card out, stephan lawerences murdered by a white gang of thugs ,who got away with it , 10 years of media attention , ok so thats ok,, the same time he was stabbed , a whit youth from near liverpool was chased and stabbed in the neck , by welsh lads , he died , killed becase of his liverpool accent, the gang got away with it as they couldnot say which one murdered him
@Mujangga he didnt even reach the national paper , both cases similar ,, one forgotten , because he was white , the other with all the media cover possible because he was black,, you go to some asian areas , they are no go areas to whites , you try and date an asian girl, or indian girl, , theres plenty of ant i white racism as well as a heathy class system, return to the what the british did to the irish ,where do you draw the line
@Mujangga ,, as ive said before ,, apart from the 50,000 irish dead in ww1 , who the irish never reckonised shamefullythe biggest killer of irish people have been the irish themselves , from 1916 onwards , more irish were killed IRA versus IRA in the civil war , than the war of independence , most of the RIC were irish , the briitish army during the troubles 1969 to 97 killed less than 300 , republicans killed 2000it the IRA and republicans whove been responsible for the majority of deaths
@Mujangga you want to read of some of the murders the ira and friends did during the troubles , you think we were brutal, they make us look like boy scouts , queen victoria went to ireland several times during her reign , all warmly welcomed as was george v ,, since 1916 irish youth has been brainwashed from birth into hatred of the british, the same cant be said here , 6 million britons have some sort of irish decent , hundreds of thousands of irish live and work here
@Mujangga the irish in the north have better rights than us , free prescriptions , free universcity grants , and so on , all paid for mainly by the english , they are as free as us , and have been for decades , its not all one way traffic , look what the republicans did to NI and britian, terrorist scum , plain and simple , the people of brixton arnt intrested in ascot , if they could afford it thed get a ticket like everyone else
Yes but do you think they would have it if it weren't for the Troubles? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Yes Britain abolished slavery but judging by your comment, they haven't abolished racism. Way to contradict yourself by expressing the exact attitude that led to the Evils of the British Empire. Also, way to avoid dealing with my response wherein I prove you wrong.
@Mujangga , britian is one of the least racist countries in the world, if that was the case , how come millions have come here , and even more want to, more so than anywere , the government isnt racist or thed stop it or limit it, lets put it this way ,the population of malta is 400,000, if all of a sudden say 20,000 forieigners arrive, putting a strain of hospitals, the state, your schools flooded with foriegners who cant speak your language,
@Mujangga and also many of your own people cant find work because foreigners have taken your jobs at a substantially lower wage , is it racist to question the influx and the volume coming in, no it is not , youd be exactly the same , that is not being racist , its common sense , when you see many foriegner not being genuine,and blatantly taking advantage of the system, theirs people in this country having their social security cut , and taken away yet foriegn claimants are taken care of
@Mujangga , for example , my friend has diabetis , so what you say , but this is as bad as it gets, with the highest doses of insulin yet still not controllable, she cant feel her feet, has terrible nerve pain,her kidneys are half way to dialysis and leak, her eyes are failing ,she falls and its getting worse, , yet this government, has taken her invalidity benefit away, saying shes fit for work, she has a 10 year old girl ,and has to survive on a small amout a week, the state gives her little
@Mujangga yet someone from say poland , can claim allsorts including child benefit ,even if their child is back in poland.the money provided by british tax payers is sent direct to poland , you have families being given houses ,jumping 10 year waiting lists ,being paid tens of thousands in rent and housing benefit , its pretty offensive and galling to people born and bred here , as well as european , youve illegal immigrants , all they say ,ill be in danger if i go back8/10 stay indefinatley
@Mujangga its not racism , 4 million immigrants in less than 10 years , its not as bad here ethnically wise , its still 98.5% white, but in the likes of bradford muslims now outnumber the native people, and in many towns and whole regions of london ,theres practically no go areas for whites ,, violence ,unseen on such a scale before is rife , 14 year olds shooting each other with machine guns , yesterday 2 somalii teens were shot dead , this isnt like immigration in the 50s and 60s
@Mujangga i repeat people are welcome , within reason , and always have been, i dont think you realise how bad it is, and imagine it in 20 years time, its not racist to comment on excessive immigration, and its effect on the country ,, if i wanted to emigrate to australia, id have to have a clean bill of health , have a job to go to , no criminal record , and they say yes or no wether you can move their, people come here and take the piss ,
@Mujangga for example , under the european court of human rights , no one can be sent back to a country were they can be put to death ,or tortured or the threat of being harmed , there was a case yesterday, one of robert mugabes torturers moved here on a vistors visa , and claimed asylum, he tortures hundreds of people in zimbabwe , he said if he goes back he,ll be killed ,hes been allowed to stay indefinately , wouuld you like him next door to you
@Mujangga theres thousands like that here , that muslim cleric , theres many of them actually , some wanted in their own countries for murder bombings and crimes , they hate the west hate britain,. spread hate , yet hide behind the european court of human rights , and collect their thousands a year in social security handouts , would it not piss you off to.,youve also albanians here claiming all sorts yet they control vice in london bringing in sex slaves ,
ireland is free and has been for many a year ,, the civil rights ,that were contested in the 60s has all been rectified , and if they had had them before the violence started in 1969 , the IRA wouldnt of had any support or very little , you tell me ,in what way the nationalist people are not free , they wernt freedom fighters , at all , thats a joke , when they rule their areas with a rod of iron, is it freedom to shoot an anti social catholic youth through the kneecaps
@TheMightOfTheEnglish why are you even on a video of an irish song ? no one is listening to you or anyone else like you in the real world. yaknow, that exsistence outside of compulsive masturbation and youtube!
@Thompsonf1001 lol what are you doing here jock , why dont you go and live in ireland if you love it so much ,insted of living off english tax payers money
@TheMightOfTheEnglish good taste in music, thats why im here. umm not quite. you get off your arse and stop living off scots oil money ? i'd expect a primary school pupil to be able to do the maths on this one. I dont care where i live, i love Scotland and i love Ireland. Almost as much as i hate England and all it has "done for the world." Burn in hell you scumbag!
@Thompsonf1001 everywhere the english went the irish were their to mate , we provided a world full of countries were you irish can occupy, the scots were there to as it was the british empire not the english and the scots did very well out of it to , ship building engineering the industrial revolution , so less of the english , scots irish welsh ,all benefitted from the empire , and just as many english were transported and suffered to , you jock irish would be 2 small nations like estonia
@Thompsonf1001 scots oil ,how do you work that out,, you think just because it comes ashore in aberdeen thats its scots , territorial waters are 12miles out, the oil comes from hundreds of miles out in the middle of the north sea, not at all scots territory and could easierly been piped south , whos money payed for that exploration, nice try mate it aint scots , weve subsidised you for years, and when our oil runs out ,you,ll relyon english trade ,english roads , and trade to survive
@Thompsonf1001 whos money was it that explored and drilled for the oil in the first place,mostly ours, your the thicko matey enjoy your free presciptions and suchlike while you can, the oil is running out, 40 years time there wont be much left , and you,ll be just a little nation struggling like greece and ireland and portugal, the only way scotland will survive is to receive large european grants, independence is a joke ,you,ll be in europes grip and what cost
catholic nationalists , republicans , unionists loyalists , the people of NI and of ireland have the same rights as anyone else in the uk ,tell me what we have that they dont, if fact they get more than we get here , your from malta , if im a racist ,what are irish republicans who call protestants of NI as planters , foreigners, go home ,theve been there 400 years. what are scottish nationalists ,welsh seperatists cornish seperatists , anti english and racist ,
your repiblican friends in the real IRA have no mandate , no support , and no political clout , their terrorists , i now a girl from northern ireland a catholic and a friend , she went to see her sister in belfast today, with her baby in her car, she was stuck in a traffic jam for hours , with no drink, and a baby , because of a bomb threat , how is effecting a young catholic girl going about her everyday businesses fighting for freedom,
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Did you even read what I wrote you? We're talking about Ireland and England... Get it? Again, the caught child points his finger at other errant children in a vain attempt to avoid responsibility for his actions. I totally destroyed your argument and there's nothing you can do about it.
@Mujangga lol you destroyed nothing , the PIRA are semi defunct, the real IRA no support or mandate, stick to irish and english by all means , and stick to the 20th century onwards, and its not the english ,its the british, scottish welsh and NI MP,s all have a say in policy on NI, andif you want to stick to irish and english the last hundred years you,ll find its non irish republicans ,that have been the greater victim.
@Mujangga , 1916 uprising , the people of dublin threw chamber pots of urine over the rebel forces that destroyed the centre of their town, to most irish at that moment of time it was not wholly supported by the majority of irish. the republicans were armed with german weapons ,supplied by germany , an act most irish who had relatives fighting the germans were appalled by.most RIC were irish themselves ,policemen murdered by the IRA ,irish on irish
@Mujangga yes you can say the black and tans were brutal, no more brutal than the IRA , not condoning what they did but the methods of the IRA wernt excactly geneva convention friendly. the numbers killed in the war of independence , 2,000 .all sides , hardly a genocide , more were killed in the civil war , irish on irish ,complete with more executions ,and atrocities on each other, IRA commited atrocities every decade of the 20th century, early in ww2 , bombs in england
@Mujangga colluding with the nazis ,for a second time, threatening american soldiers landing in ww2, plus the border campaign in the 50s , the irish government brought in internment in the 40s and 50s for the IRA 20 years before the british did it, go back to after independence , protestants ,were pressured to leave the south, threatend and by force in many cases, and protestants overlooked for senior jobs, a quiet ethnic cleansing if you like
@Mujangga then go on to the troubles , it was the government of NI ,the unionists and loyalists ,that bred the conditions that led to the troubles ,the british government were guilty of not getting involved , until real trouble broke out ,, you say what english did to irish? ive said before ,less than 300 were killed by the army , 2000 by republican groups, the maths and statistics show that from 1918 to today , irishmen have killed more irishmen than anyone else . that destroys your argument
@Mujangga and ps , malta refused to take any refugees fleeing persecution from north africa, whys that , racism, or system couldnt cope , same reason why we dont want to many immigrants either ,malta,s guilty of the same reasoning a britain in that case ,
@Mujangga so who were the criminal invaders in europe , and who defended malta against the nazis in ww2 , or would you rather them have occupied them, if we were that bad why did nearly all empire countries stay in the commonwealth , belgians in the congo treated the natives far worse than the english did as did the germans in SE africa, the french in algeria and indo china , not and anglo in site , the japenese in the 30s and 40s made us look like saints
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Malta was already under British occupation. Why did they vote for independence than abolish the monarchy? What the fuck is the commonwealth anyways? Who gives a shit about that? Did the Belgians invent the concentration camps? Nope, it was the British in South Africa during the Boer War. Lets ask the slaves of Rhodesia if they prefer the English to the Germans?
Yes, you're right, the Japanese were the worse in those decades. But over the centuries, Britain is worst.
@Mujangga korea wasnt britains fault , and it was the UN that fought against the chinese, vietnam wasnt our fault , the french sould of handed it back, predate you say , the chinese invaded tibet , the indiands and pakistanis fought wars , iran iraq , soviet occupation of eastern europe , putting down uprisings in hungary and czech republic, nothing to do with us, is burma better off now or zimbabwe , many countries since ww2 and through history leave us in shade mate
Lord Mountbaten employed Japanese troops to police Vietnam until the French returned. YES Vietnam was your fault. In 1904 Britain invaded Tibet and killed thousands. The indians and Pakis fight because of the British partition of 1947. Iraq was created by Britain for Faisal II pitting Sunis, Shiites and Kurds against each other. Persian oil was controlled by Britain and Mossadegh was overthrown. 1956 Soviets in Hungary, 1956 Britain in Egypt. Burma and Zimbabwe better off
Awesome. Any more tracks from Tommy back in the heyday man? I've been lookin for this album for ages.... And any chance of the original Bodenstown Churchyard
@PaganDeathKnight I did forget something Professor. You do know the Italian Mafia existed in the Old Country right? And made the voyage to America? And preyed on their own kind to get a leg up as a criminal element of immigrants are want to do? Like modern Russians? Or West Indians? Or Hispanics? It's part of immigration you fucking jackass
mickabe 2 months ago
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mickabe 3 months ago
@PaganDeathKnight Really DoucheKnight? "Stifle" the pathetic emo rantings like you said you would on your sockpuppet account over at the CWCki Forums okay? "Grigor Stoyanovich?" Thanks alot in advance. And nice eyebrows you ugly fuck.
mickabe 3 months ago
@PaganDeathKnight No, Your not a man, there is no Irishbar where you live, you have to justify your existance with stupid comments on you tube....
Trust me, you can end your pain now, you know what to do, there will be no recompense for it...
No more pain...
gespb32 4 months ago
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mickabe 3 months ago
@gespb32 Don't bother with him brother. You can go to the YT channel "ALogIsAHuegFaggot" to see how he's playing the dancing monkey now for the internet's enjoyment because he's being "bullied" or something for being a pseudo intellectual/toughguy on the internet.
I love the Tones though. Ignore self confessed retarded people.
He lives in Roanoke, Virginia. Yes, he's dumb enough to tell people where he lives. Go look at one of his videos, I mean how intimidating is THAT? Take care.
mickabe 3 months ago
@mickabe I know, its the down side of the internet in reality, if you go through the videos dedicated to our people you will always see these Walter Mittys, loyalists etc being brave behind a keyboard, they are identical to Anders Behring Brevik, in other words they are insane.
gespb32 3 months ago
@gespb32 Well they don't get me down. I love my heritage brother.
mickabe 2 months ago
@mickabe That is good to hear brother, ignore the weirdo, it craves attention & medical help, trust me ignore it.
gespb32 2 months ago
@PaganDeathKnight It is very easy being an online hardman isnt it? running down a race that willingly sent over 100,000 of its sons to volunteer to fight for the Union & over 80,000 to fight for the Confederacy.
The only "ape" here is the cowardly "pagandeathknight", either walk into an Irish bar & declare your hatred for our people & stand like a man.
But I know you will continue to exercise your internal frustrations behind the safety of a keyboard.
Your a coward.
gespb32 4 months ago
@PaganDeathKnight
Agreed, Irish catholics contribute nothing to society, they have also ruined my country, Scotland.
ProtestantThomas 4 months ago
could ye go a chicken supper
ThePostbear 10 months ago
english cunts
12345TheRonan 1 year ago
Im a Soldier and i wish to say sorry
but nah just sorry
mac7455 1 year ago
fxuk the english i say for leaving the irish starve to death when food which could hav feed the irish was exported
lyreman1 1 year ago 2
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there was a Famine in 1700's Ireland. From years of constant bad weather the potato crop failed & caused the deaths of 4000,000 people.
ImagesByDavid 1 year ago
left to die.
lukkey101 1 year ago
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Ireland starved because its food, from 40 to 70 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint by 12,000 British constables reinforced by the British militia, battleships, excise vessels, Coast Guard and by 200,000 British soldiers (100,000 at any given moment) Thus, Britain seized from Ireland's producers tens of millions of head of livestock; tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry & dairy products; enough to sustain 18 million persons.
ccrino07 2 years ago
I dare say the establishment of the era was to blaim for a great many misdeeds, which all and every one, would be criminal. The truth is the English themselves suffered every bit as much under that system. It only changed as general suffrage was won, and then we're well, in the 1920's...
How Many Irish amongst the establishment did, by the way, abuse their position just as vigorously as the English, Scottish..take your pick men in power?
I say very few didn't. It happened in all nations then.
MrTriggr 2 years ago
The Irish famine was declared in 1987 by the UN as a genocide.
RogueRover 2 years ago 20
@RogueRover -"The Irish famine declared as genocide by the UN"-is this an absolute fact? or a little you tubing? It would be fine if it is true
toonmag50 1 year ago
awesome song
we would have many more a soul in ireland today
if not for the cursed great famine...
shaneyg87 2 years ago 2
Absolutely right, The potato blight caused the Famine but the Crown could have helped save many, but didn't, and the English Liberal,Trevelyan was responsible, for showing no mercy !
josparkes 2 years ago
indeed it would appear so
so sad that one reasons why the population is so low now :( crown how could you
shaneyg87 2 years ago
They could, and did, and actually didn't think that sufficiently high enough numbers of Irish died to make any appreciable difference, the callousness leaves me gobsmacked !
josparkes 2 years ago
:O
i remembered i left a comment
then months later a comment back. lol
nah way not enough holy shit anymore and i wouldnt be typn now to ya :(
shaneyg87 2 years ago
OK !
josparkes 2 years ago
Sad but beautiful song and accurate portrait of suffering.
Jo Sparkes
Norfolk
4/3/2009
josparkes 3 years ago
The real tragedy is that there was no famine. Only the potato crop failed. At the same time people were dying of starvation, other food was being exported to England!
gosport12 3 years ago 2
josparkes 3 years ago 2
A very beautiful and moving song.
haroldbhoy67 3 years ago 2
The brave 'Scotch-Irish' wannabes support: genocide, slavery, kidnapping, torture and abuse and live a high lifestyle at the expense of others!
ALL OF THE CHILDREN THAT YOU KIDNAPPED WANT TO RETURN TO THEIR MOTHERS! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SCUM AND I SWEAR TO GOD YOU WILL PAY SOMEDAY WITH YOUR LIVES!!!!
DEATH TO TYRANTS!!!!!
TOM
abrahamlincolnfriend 3 years ago
hey lincoln,your a fine one to talk, how many people did your country kill in vietnam,and thats not including mai lai etc, and how many treatys did your government break ,while committing genocide on the plains indians,as for slavery we abolished it in 1807,you 60 year later,and then had an apartied till the 1960s,as for torture and abuse ,klu klux clan how many did they lynch,and more recently that abu grave prison.and in cuba,take a look at yout own nation before slagging off others
TheMightOfTheEnglish 3 years ago
Dude, nobody's saying these things were good things. Every country has to own up to its mistakes. The fact remains that the English continued to export huge amounts of food from Ireland while her people were dying of hunger in the ditches. Fact.
PS. It was Britian who imported slavery to all her colonies and created economies wholly dependent on it. The Founding Fathers attempted to get rid of it but the situation was that abolishing slavery would destroy solidarity for the Revolution. Fact.
cmurphy2826 2 years ago 14
the english wernt exporting food , the landlords in ireland were,the british government left it to the landlords to solve the food problem,greedy landowners and the britiish lack of urgency to solving the famine didnt help, ps england and scotland took in tens of thousands of irish ,america wwernt the only ones, the irish were treated very poorly wen arriving in america ,fact,
as for slavery,it was going on for centuries before the english started exporting slaves to the americas,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
as i said the british stopped and actively punished slave traders in africa, america carried on for a futher 60 years , even after the so called freedom for all, blacks ,in the south especially were lynched ,had no chance in court, lived in the worst of houseing, right up to the 1960s ,seperate toilets, seperate schools,and universitys,couldnt use same cafes, had to sit on back of the bus,seperate battalions in the army etc,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
that's true enough the Anglo Irish who it could be said were more English then the English themselves were the british government in Ireland they rigged elections to get themselves elected and the problem of absentee landlords was huge,men spending a fortune in London while upping rents to up keep there lavish lifestyles and exporting crops,the problem was so bad some advocated in westminster a new policy of plantations to remove some of the old Anglo Irish
timpatjoe 2 years ago
@cmurphy2826 every word truth....good post
OscarLimaMike 1 year ago
@cmurphy2826 Better dig up the lawn and plant some potatoes, the USA is dependent on food imports now, at some point all exports may be stopped by govt. decree as Russia has done but when the dollar can't compete with other currencies, imports will be scarce, and we may find out why recently published disaster planning guidelines include killing all pet dogs.
LinnTractorNut 1 year ago
England with 100,000-200,000 Armed soldiers, Removed food, At Gunpoint From Irish to make rent -to absentee English landlords
Catholic Priests & Bishops had a bounty on their heads in Ireland, Mass was banned.
Irish Catholics could not own land, lease land, inherit land, keep arms, vote, practice law, educate children, etc etc
6 million perished
StSimonMartyr 10 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish
You do realize that the Americans who perpetrated those crimes were English descendants right? Anglo-Saxons all over the world predate on other people. Crimes of America were committed by the Might of the English.
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga you tell the americans that , they rebelled in 1776 . from then on they were american, how many call themselves english american, compared to italian ,german and irish american, the americans at the time of the war of independence , was approx 50% english , 20 to 30% african , 20 % mixed european including german , irish and others , once they got independence their actions were no longer the fault of the british
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish 20-30% Black... I don't think slaves can be blames for what happened. Here's a quote from Wikipedia: "By 1776 about 85% of the white population was of English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh descent, with 9% of German origin and 4% Dutch."
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga tell me about the spanish and their conquest of the americas , a long time before the english set foot there , the eradication of the incas and aztecs, the capital city of the aztecs was the largest city on earth at the time, their object was gold and filling the coffers of spain and rome , once the british by then were kicked out of the US they let in immigrants all over the world , by the time of the demise of the plains indians anglo saxons were in the minority in the USA
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I feel like a parent telling a child: "I don't care what your friends' parents let them do: we're talking about you here." The Spanish took gold from America like the English took food from Ireland. They speak Spanish in America like the speak English in Wales.
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga the british outlawed slavery in 1806 , americans in 1865 , and kept the blacks as 2nd class citizens until 1960s , americans speak english but have a completely different mentality , look within europe itself , who were the agressors and invaders since the 1500,s spain were the powerhouse , france were later then germany and russia, the spanish armada , tried to invade , paid partly by rome, napoleon tried to invade and invaded the whole of europe , hitler tried to invade to
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish 2nd class citizens... Right, the people of brixton are often seen at the Royal Ascot... "No Niggers, No Irish, no Gods." There's PLENTY of racism in England. No one ever said Britain was the only invader; but we ARE talking about what the English DID do to the Irish, a point you seem to ignore by recount atrocities commited by other empires which actually means you admit to what you did so we are you arguing then?
Tiocfaidh ár lá!
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga Oops, I mean "No Niggers, No Irish, No Dogs" Sorry.
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga , if britain was as racist as you believe , why do so many foreigners come here to these shores , people are objecting not because of their colour or who they are , its the sheer number , several years ago our population was 56 million , and had been for decades , now all of a sudden its 60million , not just coloured the biggest immigrants are eastern europeans , over a million poles , so people are worried here over jobs ,houses and the likes
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga and you,ll find the biggest racists of all out the minoritys , why? , there all to quick to pull the race card out, stephan lawerences murdered by a white gang of thugs ,who got away with it , 10 years of media attention , ok so thats ok,, the same time he was stabbed , a whit youth from near liverpool was chased and stabbed in the neck , by welsh lads , he died , killed becase of his liverpool accent, the gang got away with it as they couldnot say which one murdered him
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga he didnt even reach the national paper , both cases similar ,, one forgotten , because he was white , the other with all the media cover possible because he was black,, you go to some asian areas , they are no go areas to whites , you try and date an asian girl, or indian girl, , theres plenty of ant i white racism as well as a heathy class system, return to the what the british did to the irish ,where do you draw the line
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga ,, as ive said before ,, apart from the 50,000 irish dead in ww1 , who the irish never reckonised shamefullythe biggest killer of irish people have been the irish themselves , from 1916 onwards , more irish were killed IRA versus IRA in the civil war , than the war of independence , most of the RIC were irish , the briitish army during the troubles 1969 to 97 killed less than 300 , republicans killed 2000it the IRA and republicans whove been responsible for the majority of deaths
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga you want to read of some of the murders the ira and friends did during the troubles , you think we were brutal, they make us look like boy scouts , queen victoria went to ireland several times during her reign , all warmly welcomed as was george v ,, since 1916 irish youth has been brainwashed from birth into hatred of the british, the same cant be said here , 6 million britons have some sort of irish decent , hundreds of thousands of irish live and work here
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga the irish in the north have better rights than us , free prescriptions , free universcity grants , and so on , all paid for mainly by the english , they are as free as us , and have been for decades , its not all one way traffic , look what the republicans did to NI and britian, terrorist scum , plain and simple , the people of brixton arnt intrested in ascot , if they could afford it thed get a ticket like everyone else
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish:
Yes but do you think they would have it if it weren't for the Troubles? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Yes Britain abolished slavery but judging by your comment, they haven't abolished racism. Way to contradict yourself by expressing the exact attitude that led to the Evils of the British Empire. Also, way to avoid dealing with my response wherein I prove you wrong.
UNITED IRELAND!!!!
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga , britian is one of the least racist countries in the world, if that was the case , how come millions have come here , and even more want to, more so than anywere , the government isnt racist or thed stop it or limit it, lets put it this way ,the population of malta is 400,000, if all of a sudden say 20,000 forieigners arrive, putting a strain of hospitals, the state, your schools flooded with foriegners who cant speak your language,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga and also many of your own people cant find work because foreigners have taken your jobs at a substantially lower wage , is it racist to question the influx and the volume coming in, no it is not , youd be exactly the same , that is not being racist , its common sense , when you see many foriegner not being genuine,and blatantly taking advantage of the system, theirs people in this country having their social security cut , and taken away yet foriegn claimants are taken care of
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga , for example , my friend has diabetis , so what you say , but this is as bad as it gets, with the highest doses of insulin yet still not controllable, she cant feel her feet, has terrible nerve pain,her kidneys are half way to dialysis and leak, her eyes are failing ,she falls and its getting worse, , yet this government, has taken her invalidity benefit away, saying shes fit for work, she has a 10 year old girl ,and has to survive on a small amout a week, the state gives her little
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga yet someone from say poland , can claim allsorts including child benefit ,even if their child is back in poland.the money provided by british tax payers is sent direct to poland , you have families being given houses ,jumping 10 year waiting lists ,being paid tens of thousands in rent and housing benefit , its pretty offensive and galling to people born and bred here , as well as european , youve illegal immigrants , all they say ,ill be in danger if i go back8/10 stay indefinatley
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga its not racism , 4 million immigrants in less than 10 years , its not as bad here ethnically wise , its still 98.5% white, but in the likes of bradford muslims now outnumber the native people, and in many towns and whole regions of london ,theres practically no go areas for whites ,, violence ,unseen on such a scale before is rife , 14 year olds shooting each other with machine guns , yesterday 2 somalii teens were shot dead , this isnt like immigration in the 50s and 60s
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga i repeat people are welcome , within reason , and always have been, i dont think you realise how bad it is, and imagine it in 20 years time, its not racist to comment on excessive immigration, and its effect on the country ,, if i wanted to emigrate to australia, id have to have a clean bill of health , have a job to go to , no criminal record , and they say yes or no wether you can move their, people come here and take the piss ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga for example , under the european court of human rights , no one can be sent back to a country were they can be put to death ,or tortured or the threat of being harmed , there was a case yesterday, one of robert mugabes torturers moved here on a vistors visa , and claimed asylum, he tortures hundreds of people in zimbabwe , he said if he goes back he,ll be killed ,hes been allowed to stay indefinately , wouuld you like him next door to you
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@Mujangga theres thousands like that here , that muslim cleric , theres many of them actually , some wanted in their own countries for murder bombings and crimes , they hate the west hate britain,. spread hate , yet hide behind the european court of human rights , and collect their thousands a year in social security handouts , would it not piss you off to.,youve also albanians here claiming all sorts yet they control vice in london bringing in sex slaves ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
ireland is free and has been for many a year ,, the civil rights ,that were contested in the 60s has all been rectified , and if they had had them before the violence started in 1969 , the IRA wouldnt of had any support or very little , you tell me ,in what way the nationalist people are not free , they wernt freedom fighters , at all , thats a joke , when they rule their areas with a rod of iron, is it freedom to shoot an anti social catholic youth through the kneecaps
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish why are you even on a video of an irish song ? no one is listening to you or anyone else like you in the real world. yaknow, that exsistence outside of compulsive masturbation and youtube!
Thompsonf1001 7 months ago
@Thompsonf1001 lol what are you doing here jock , why dont you go and live in ireland if you love it so much ,insted of living off english tax payers money
TheMightOfTheEnglish 7 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish good taste in music, thats why im here. umm not quite. you get off your arse and stop living off scots oil money ? i'd expect a primary school pupil to be able to do the maths on this one. I dont care where i live, i love Scotland and i love Ireland. Almost as much as i hate England and all it has "done for the world." Burn in hell you scumbag!
Thompsonf1001 7 months ago
@Thompsonf1001 everywhere the english went the irish were their to mate , we provided a world full of countries were you irish can occupy, the scots were there to as it was the british empire not the english and the scots did very well out of it to , ship building engineering the industrial revolution , so less of the english , scots irish welsh ,all benefitted from the empire , and just as many english were transported and suffered to , you jock irish would be 2 small nations like estonia
TheMightOfTheEnglish 7 months ago
@Thompsonf1001 scots oil ,how do you work that out,, you think just because it comes ashore in aberdeen thats its scots , territorial waters are 12miles out, the oil comes from hundreds of miles out in the middle of the north sea, not at all scots territory and could easierly been piped south , whos money payed for that exploration, nice try mate it aint scots , weve subsidised you for years, and when our oil runs out ,you,ll relyon english trade ,english roads , and trade to survive
TheMightOfTheEnglish 7 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Really aye ? god your thicker than i thought. and thats not because your mentioned trade twice. .
Thompsonf1001 7 months ago
@Thompsonf1001 whos money was it that explored and drilled for the oil in the first place,mostly ours, your the thicko matey enjoy your free presciptions and suchlike while you can, the oil is running out, 40 years time there wont be much left , and you,ll be just a little nation struggling like greece and ireland and portugal, the only way scotland will survive is to receive large european grants, independence is a joke ,you,ll be in europes grip and what cost
TheMightOfTheEnglish 6 months ago
catholic nationalists , republicans , unionists loyalists , the people of NI and of ireland have the same rights as anyone else in the uk ,tell me what we have that they dont, if fact they get more than we get here , your from malta , if im a racist ,what are irish republicans who call protestants of NI as planters , foreigners, go home ,theve been there 400 years. what are scottish nationalists ,welsh seperatists cornish seperatists , anti english and racist ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
your repiblican friends in the real IRA have no mandate , no support , and no political clout , their terrorists , i now a girl from northern ireland a catholic and a friend , she went to see her sister in belfast today, with her baby in her car, she was stuck in a traffic jam for hours , with no drink, and a baby , because of a bomb threat , how is effecting a young catholic girl going about her everyday businesses fighting for freedom,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Did you even read what I wrote you? We're talking about Ireland and England... Get it? Again, the caught child points his finger at other errant children in a vain attempt to avoid responsibility for his actions. I totally destroyed your argument and there's nothing you can do about it.
Tiocfaidh ár lá!
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga lol you destroyed nothing , the PIRA are semi defunct, the real IRA no support or mandate, stick to irish and english by all means , and stick to the 20th century onwards, and its not the english ,its the british, scottish welsh and NI MP,s all have a say in policy on NI, andif you want to stick to irish and english the last hundred years you,ll find its non irish republicans ,that have been the greater victim.
TheMightOfTheEnglish 8 months ago
@Mujangga , 1916 uprising , the people of dublin threw chamber pots of urine over the rebel forces that destroyed the centre of their town, to most irish at that moment of time it was not wholly supported by the majority of irish. the republicans were armed with german weapons ,supplied by germany , an act most irish who had relatives fighting the germans were appalled by.most RIC were irish themselves ,policemen murdered by the IRA ,irish on irish
TheMightOfTheEnglish 8 months ago
@Mujangga yes you can say the black and tans were brutal, no more brutal than the IRA , not condoning what they did but the methods of the IRA wernt excactly geneva convention friendly. the numbers killed in the war of independence , 2,000 .all sides , hardly a genocide , more were killed in the civil war , irish on irish ,complete with more executions ,and atrocities on each other, IRA commited atrocities every decade of the 20th century, early in ww2 , bombs in england
TheMightOfTheEnglish 8 months ago
@Mujangga colluding with the nazis ,for a second time, threatening american soldiers landing in ww2, plus the border campaign in the 50s , the irish government brought in internment in the 40s and 50s for the IRA 20 years before the british did it, go back to after independence , protestants ,were pressured to leave the south, threatend and by force in many cases, and protestants overlooked for senior jobs, a quiet ethnic cleansing if you like
TheMightOfTheEnglish 8 months ago
@Mujangga then go on to the troubles , it was the government of NI ,the unionists and loyalists ,that bred the conditions that led to the troubles ,the british government were guilty of not getting involved , until real trouble broke out ,, you say what english did to irish? ive said before ,less than 300 were killed by the army , 2000 by republican groups, the maths and statistics show that from 1918 to today , irishmen have killed more irishmen than anyone else . that destroys your argument
TheMightOfTheEnglish 8 months ago
@Mujangga and ps , malta refused to take any refugees fleeing persecution from north africa, whys that , racism, or system couldnt cope , same reason why we dont want to many immigrants either ,malta,s guilty of the same reasoning a britain in that case ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 8 months ago
@Mujangga so who were the criminal invaders in europe , and who defended malta against the nazis in ww2 , or would you rather them have occupied them, if we were that bad why did nearly all empire countries stay in the commonwealth , belgians in the congo treated the natives far worse than the english did as did the germans in SE africa, the french in algeria and indo china , not and anglo in site , the japenese in the 30s and 40s made us look like saints
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Malta was already under British occupation. Why did they vote for independence than abolish the monarchy? What the fuck is the commonwealth anyways? Who gives a shit about that? Did the Belgians invent the concentration camps? Nope, it was the British in South Africa during the Boer War. Lets ask the slaves of Rhodesia if they prefer the English to the Germans?
Yes, you're right, the Japanese were the worse in those decades. But over the centuries, Britain is worst.
Mujangga 9 months ago
@Mujangga korea wasnt britains fault , and it was the UN that fought against the chinese, vietnam wasnt our fault , the french sould of handed it back, predate you say , the chinese invaded tibet , the indiands and pakistanis fought wars , iran iraq , soviet occupation of eastern europe , putting down uprisings in hungary and czech republic, nothing to do with us, is burma better off now or zimbabwe , many countries since ww2 and through history leave us in shade mate
TheMightOfTheEnglish 9 months ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish
Lord Mountbaten employed Japanese troops to police Vietnam until the French returned. YES Vietnam was your fault. In 1904 Britain invaded Tibet and killed thousands. The indians and Pakis fight because of the British partition of 1947. Iraq was created by Britain for Faisal II pitting Sunis, Shiites and Kurds against each other. Persian oil was controlled by Britain and Mossadegh was overthrown. 1956 Soviets in Hungary, 1956 Britain in Egypt. Burma and Zimbabwe better off
Mujangga 9 months ago
Such a good demonstration of the suffering.
So sad, but shows that they're not forgotten.
Jo Sparkes
5/11/2008
josparkes 3 years ago 3
Finest band ever to come out of Eire.
geofflovett 3 years ago 2
definately one of the most moving songs ive herad.
Mike62589 3 years ago 2
Nice one Machree.
lorgain2 3 years ago
top class!! tommy sure is a legend!!
Conall06 3 years ago
Awesome. Any more tracks from Tommy back in the heyday man? I've been lookin for this album for ages.... And any chance of the original Bodenstown Churchyard
Panch21 3 years ago 2