@gezelle007 According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. dogbitelaw
Its not that they train them to kill, its usually that they dont do any training at all. Original pit fighting dogs *were* trained to kill. Other dogs that is, but the humans were rarely harmed, and dogs that did harm humans didnt survive much longer.
@MRK00KI3M0NST3R Clifton states: If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed. dogbitelaw
I love it when you guys quote Clifton. 1st of all: according to HCUP released in November 2010. There were 316,200 emergency department visits in 2008 from dog bites. Of those, 9,500 involved overnight stays. Also, according to the study there were more than 30 million emergency department visits a year, and nearly 3 million hospitalizations -- so about 1% of all ED visits and .3% of hospitalizations are from dog bites.
The total number of of hospitalizations of 9,500 is the highest number since numbers were recorded in 1993. And the number have been steadily increasing over that time -- however, much of that is due to an increase in population -- as the number of hospitalizations per 100,000 people has been pretty consistently between 2.7 and 3.0 over the past 13 years.
Clifton's study covers dog attacks over the past 27 years - and includes 2,695 dog bites - so roughly 100 attacks per year.
One hundred attacks per year represents 1% of the total hospitalizations from dog bites each year and .03% of all emergency department visits each year.
Because Clifton relies only on media reports for his 'study', it's not only NOT complete, it's not a genuine sample because it's subject to media bias -- which has shown that it would rather focus on the dramatic and fear mongering. And THAT is how Merrit Clifton bought into it.
Clifton has no credentials in dog related issues, he collects, "analzyes," and publishes his own "data" in his own magazine "Animal People" and he has gone on record stating he hates pit bulls.
How can ANYONE create an unbiased, objective dog attack study if the person already passes judgement against one breed?
You are being a bit harsh, people can discuss things objectively even if they don't like them.
If they can't however, I should disregard your comments on Clifton, because you are anti-Clifton, and you have no credentials in Clifton related issues.
You're right gangstas do own other dogs, but their first choice is pitbull. Why? Small minded insecure people tend to need something to make up for their own deficiencies.
@MrSExperience I think it's more to do with the fact that pit bull and pit bull like dogs are just popular around the "gangstar" crowd. Also they just look scary, and are easy to get.
a cop dog doesnt deserve more rights than a regular dog its a fuckin dog not a pig
curtisblackthorne 11 months ago
pit bull can be the nicest dogs in the world
most of the time its the owners that miss treat them or train them to kill
MRK00KI3M0NST3R 2 years ago 2
yea its not the dogs. its jut how they are raised.
gezelle007 2 years ago 3
@gezelle007 According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. dogbitelaw
Rubio1616 1 year ago
@MRK00KI3M0NST3R
Its not that they train them to kill, its usually that they dont do any training at all. Original pit fighting dogs *were* trained to kill. Other dogs that is, but the humans were rarely harmed, and dogs that did harm humans didnt survive much longer.
WhippleBaby 2 years ago
@MRK00KI3M0NST3R Clifton states: If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed. dogbitelaw
Rubio1616 1 year ago
@Rubio1616
Part 1
I love it when you guys quote Clifton. 1st of all: according to HCUP released in November 2010. There were 316,200 emergency department visits in 2008 from dog bites. Of those, 9,500 involved overnight stays. Also, according to the study there were more than 30 million emergency department visits a year, and nearly 3 million hospitalizations -- so about 1% of all ED visits and .3% of hospitalizations are from dog bites.
FUzupf 1 year ago
Part 2
The total number of of hospitalizations of 9,500 is the highest number since numbers were recorded in 1993. And the number have been steadily increasing over that time -- however, much of that is due to an increase in population -- as the number of hospitalizations per 100,000 people has been pretty consistently between 2.7 and 3.0 over the past 13 years.
Clifton's study covers dog attacks over the past 27 years - and includes 2,695 dog bites - so roughly 100 attacks per year.
FUzupf 1 year ago
Part 3
One hundred attacks per year represents 1% of the total hospitalizations from dog bites each year and .03% of all emergency department visits each year.
Because Clifton relies only on media reports for his 'study', it's not only NOT complete, it's not a genuine sample because it's subject to media bias -- which has shown that it would rather focus on the dramatic and fear mongering. And THAT is how Merrit Clifton bought into it.
FUzupf 1 year ago
@FUzupf ok, sample size problems. I'll call Clifton.
Rubio1616 1 year ago
@Rubio1616
Clifton has no credentials in dog related issues, he collects, "analzyes," and publishes his own "data" in his own magazine "Animal People" and he has gone on record stating he hates pit bulls.
How can ANYONE create an unbiased, objective dog attack study if the person already passes judgement against one breed?
FUzupf 1 year ago
@FUzupf
You are being a bit harsh, people can discuss things objectively even if they don't like them.
If they can't however, I should disregard your comments on Clifton, because you are anti-Clifton, and you have no credentials in Clifton related issues.
Rubio1616 1 year ago
@Rubio1616 hey.....do whatever
FUzupf 1 year ago
might sound wierd but the criminals in my area own labs and the good ppl have pitbulls to keep them out =S
99pitbulls 2 years ago
You're right gangstas do own other dogs, but their first choice is pitbull. Why? Small minded insecure people tend to need something to make up for their own deficiencies.
MrSExperience 2 years ago
So why don't you have one?
FUzupf 2 years ago
@MrSExperience I think it's more to do with the fact that pit bull and pit bull like dogs are just popular around the "gangstar" crowd. Also they just look scary, and are easy to get.
Rubio1616 1 year ago