California Marriage Equality

[j4unumber1]

@PrinessAleandra90

Remember Your Highness: The God of Abraham did not write the Holy Bible.  Rather, various people did over the course of several centuries. If you disagree, you would be bearing false witness. You need to research the Holy Bible's history before stating falsehoods as fact. Otherwise, you will continue lying.

[mytube4f]

@PitterPatty Exactly my point. If despite their religious backgrouds these people were so evil, that proves the fact that we are NOT ALL born with good intentions towards others...

[GoldenbanjoDJ]

Yeah when God made us we were good, but when we fell we were no longer good... How did this guy become a preacher? Basic concepts completely overlooked

[ironspoon]

@kyoshix3 God loves all people. Being Gay is not a choice, and all those whom except jesus as thier savior are saved and loved by God. The bible is a mistranslation. in it's origional laguage it was talking against prostitiution (and same sex prostitution) and rape. Sex for the sake of sex and not love.  Feel no sadness for being Gay, as long as you hold true to love and love god you will be fine.

[PrincessAleandra90]

@ironspoon wow you sure twisted the scriptures so when God said no fornication he meant sex without marriage wrong is wrong it's a sin what do you think about same sex! when God called homosexuality an abomination he never said those who prostitute is an abomination he said ALL sexual immorality being gay is 1 thing but don't justify this sin! we ask to be forgiving he saves us it also said any man be in Christ he is a new creature old things pass away

[PrincessAleandra90]

@ironspoon we know God loves everyone but he hates the sin! sin comes from the devil ..it don't matter what language it's written in the word of God don't change if it did change in your eyes how come you say God loves us and save us? if you can read about love and saving us why did they only mistranslate the part of homosexuality ? God say if u love me then keep my commandments

[kyoshix3]

I'm questioning my faith b/c I'm gay and I can't believe in something that damns me, but this guy kind of makes me want to believe in a loving God =)

[NitrousMcBread]

The Bible is quite clear: homosexuality is a sin - and it's absolutely fine to rape your female slaves. Also Christianity outlaws pork - and this includes Rev. Ed Bacon. After all he has cut the hair away from his temples which the bible also calls a sin. And I'll bet he's coveted his neighbour's donkey. And as for prawns, arrghh! Don't get me started on prawns!

[tomcamp6023]

This is what you call a "FALSE TEACHER" He doesn't know God . He speak what y

ou want to hear and not the truth. The bible has the truth and he is far from the truth. This guy is about making money and about telling homosexual what they want to hear not what God says. Don't be fooled by this one man. Turn from your sin and you too can inherit the kingdom of God.

[GodCreatesGays2]

Many people are still falsely indoctrinated into believing the silly myth that being gay is a 'sin", when of course, it's not. The men who wrote the Bible made many mistakes, borne out of their ignorance about the world and the human condition, but God, in His infinite wisdom, guides wise truth-tellers like Bacon to reveal His truth to the deluded masses. Being gay is okay. It's the way the Lord makes some of His children, and the Lord does not make mistakes.

[tomcamp6023]

This is what you call a "FALSE TEACHER" He doesn't know God . He speak what you want to hear and not the truth. The bible has the truth and he is far from the truth.

[mytube4f]

@PitterPatty You are right! We are ALL born with good intentions towards others. Hitler proved it so well. And so did Stalin, Osama Bin Laden, Hirohito of Japan, all these kids who shoot their friends in our high schools, and all the car thieves, internet scammers and so on. Crime is on the rise just because of our "good intentions toward others".

You must be from another planet or something. It looks like you are the only one not to know that all biblical claims have historical evidences!

[MrGrafted]

Jesus warns "Lukewarm" Christians and churches who have no real faith, and do not believe, teach, or lovingly (and willingly) submit to God's Word . Rev 3:15-17, 22 "BEWARE of false teachers (prophets) who come to you in sheep's clothing, (they may seem "caring,"attractive, friendly and many will have impressive religious titles.but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."Wolves" destroy and devour the "sheep" Matthew 7:15 Many spiritual lives will be lost because of false teachings in the churches

[MrGrafted]

"Now the Spirit (of God) expressly says that in latter times some (church leaders ... reverends, ministers, rabbis, priests, "bishops", "popes") will DEPART from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons

(opposing things the Bible says ... in direct opposition to God's Word)

speaking lies in hypocrisy,

having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,

forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods . . ."

(1 Timothy 4:1-3)

[MrGrafted]

(who ignore, deny, create doubt, oppose, or refuse to teach all of God’s word in the Bible) But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward DESTROYED those who did NOT believe (God's Word)." (Jude 1:3-6) (God's rules and laws have not changed ... they are the same for every generation.)

[MrGrafted]

The Bible clearly warns many churches will "DEPART from the faith

"Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary "compelled" to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

For certain men (and women) have crept in unnoticed (now church leaders) who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, UNGODLY men (and women)

who turn the grace of our God into lewdness.

[MrGrafted]

The Prophets of the Old Testament Speak Against it

Kings 23:7 Isaiah 1:9 Isaiah 3:9 Isaiah 13:19 Lamentations 4:6 Ezekiel 16:49.

The New Testament Speaks Against it

Romans 1:26-32 Corinthians 6:9-11 Timothy 1:9-10 Peter 2:6 Jude 7

[MrGrafted]

The Law of God Speaks Against it

1 Kings 14:24, "And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel."

1 Kings 15:11-12, "And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made."

Als - 1 Kings 22:41-46 - Leviticus 18:22 - Leviticus 20:13 - Deuteronomy 23:17

[nomasodio]

The passage 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is often misinterpreted as a passage against homosexuality. The original Hebrew translation states that "Sodomites" will not inherit the kingdom of God. The connection between Sodom and homosexuality is derived from a mob of city people to rape Lot's male guests; the sinfulness of that, for the original writers of the Biblical account consisted mainly in the rape and the violation of the obligations of hospitality rather than the homosexuality as such.

[nomasodio]

The passage 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is often misinterpreted as a passage against homosexuality. The original Hebrew translation states that "Sodomites" will not inherit the kingdom of God. The connection between Sodom and homosexuality is derived from a mob of city people to rape Lot's male guests; the sinfulness of that, for the original writers of the Biblical account consisted mainly in the rape and the violation of the obligations of hospitality rather than the homosexuality as such.

[privateqty]

@nomasodio Not true. It clearly says men who lie with men.

[nomasodio]

1 Cor 6:9-10 was referring to sodomists as rapists, not referring to homosexuality. The two are often confused. Modern biblical translations have also confused the two.

[mytube4f]

Yeah! So we should throw the 10 Commandments to the trash too. They are ancient, right?

What do you do with 1Corinthians 6:9-10 then?

[MaryWaterton]

Ed Bacon is a tool of the Devil in exactly the same way that Judas Iscariot was among the apostles but belonged to the Devil. God has declared homosexuality to be an abomination (Lev 18:22) and all homosexuals will burn in Hell (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). Since homosexuality is an abomination, "gay marriage" is an abomination, those who advocate homosexual marriage (Ed Bacon) are an abomination, and those who marry homosexuals (Ed Bacon) are an abomination.

[lisalizapop]

his word reigns even today in 2009 homosexuals went back to bc and it was still a sin and remain a sin

[lisalizapop]

sermon from hell

do not be deceived

[mytube4f]

You are very right!!!

[Holebis]

Thanks !!

Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥

May God bless you all.

[sodakotalt]

While the pairing of saints, particularly in the early Christian church, was not unusual, the association of these two men was regarded as particularly intimate. Severus, the Patriarch of Antioch (AD 512 - 518) explained that, "we should not separate in speech they [Sergius and Bacchus] who were joined in life". This is not a case of simple "adelphopoiia." In the definitive 10th century account of their lives, St. Sergius is openly celebrated as the "sweet companion and lover" of St. Bacchus.

[mytube4f]

And what does that do to the fact that homosexuality is sinful? Sergius and Bacchus will both be destroyed if that is the life they lived. You want to justify homosexuality, good luck to you. My only regret is it will be too late by the time you find out at the Second Coming that you were wrong!!!

[sodakotalt]

St. Sergius and St. Bacchus, two Roman soldiers who were Christian martyrs. These two officers in the Roman army incurred the anger of Emperor Maximian when they were exposed as secret Christians by refusing to enter a pagan temple. Both were sent to Syria circa 303 CE where Bacchus is thought to have died while being flogged. Sergius survived torture but was later beheaded. Legend says that Bacchus appeared to the dying Sergius as an angel, telling him they would be reunited in heaven.

[sodakotalt]

A Kiev art museum contains a curious icon from St. Catherine's Monastery on Mt. Sinai in Israel. It shows two robed Christian saints. Between them is a traditional Roman pronubus (a best man), overseeing a wedding. The pronubus is Christ. The married couple are both men.

Is the icon suggesting that a gay "wedding" is being sanctified by Christ himself? The idea seems shocking. But the full answer comes from other early Christian sources about the two men featured in the icon,

[carnaco2]

And with all that you can justify homosexual "marriage" after Christ Himself said "a man shall leave his parents and cleave unto his WIFE"?

This is what All Saints does.

[sodakotalt]

"Christ put away with His death and resurection" is that how it was interpreted by the more modern men? Why? Since according to your arguments(interpreted by me of course) Gods word doesn't and hasn't changed, but it has, just in this statement, so did "they" interpret what worked in their favor from OT to NT? It also show that JC was progressive with the times. Now where'd that baby go from JC and Mary Magdelin? I'll bet He would have something different to say;modern day

[sodakotalt]

...and God certainely didn't try to interfere with other countries and they're laws, He may have shared His message in the hopes that their hearts will hear Him, but he doesn't beat them up over using the gift of free will. Besides...don't you TRUST GOD to do His work? If I'm a sin, and abomination, pervert, a threat to children, why haven't I burst into flames walking down the street? God take a day off? Oh, I see, and the Christians are filling in for Him! Oh wait, does GOD know that?

[carnaco2]

sodakotalt--Read up on the Levitical and cultural laws of the OT that Christ put away with His death & resurrection. Laws against homosexuality, murder, etc., remain on the books. If we accept Christ's sacrifice, He has paid the ultimate death penalty for those sins. Even though our bodies will die one day, we will live on past death.

Homosexuals and places like All Saints are those who try to explain away God's Word.

[carnaco2]

The Apostle Paul telling us that if a man is to be married, he is to have one wife. Not many. Not another man. But one wife.

Which fit with God's command that a man shall leave his parents and cleave unto his wife, clearly omitting any chance of God giving the ok to homosexual "marriage". Any church that tries to get around that is being spiritually dishonest and is deceiving its listeners with false doctrine.

[sodakotalt]

No R-E-A-L-L-Y, I'm so serious in my asking to please explain to me how "Christians" can explain away all the broken, doesn't quite fit in my plans, its uncomfortable, parts of the Bible that are just blown off because it does nothing for their self serving agenda to follow them. The above mentioned pieces...this brings to mind being self righteous and judgemental to make oneself feel better about themselves.

[sodakotalt]

Carnaco2 you are just the silliest person...a picker-and-a-chooser for sure. Lets talk about ALL that the Bible says is ok and not ok...recite me some passages that speak about common everyday sinful practices. Working on Sunday? Disobiedient children (punishable by death), adultry(death), stealing(death), using Gods name in vain (death), mixing of seeds and fabrics(death), DIVORCE, on and on and on...why do you not clammer within your church to uphold the Word there?

[CarlLewenski]

Let faggots marry so that they'll have no chance of reproducing...

Sounds great, but they'll end up divorced and each will eventually knock some naive bitch up.

Meanwhile, the Faggots thinking it's okay to fuck a guy up the ass is going to give an innocent woman syphillis or HIV.

[blondepurple]

You are just the most amazing man i love listening to you and wish I could be right there in your church just being ther hearing what you say. Thankyou so much for doing such great work for god.

[carnaco2]

If you want to hear the Word of God taught, steer clear of this church. They water down the Bible so that people in lifestyles that are clearly sinful aren't made to feel the Holy Spirit's conviction, but an affirmation that they're ok the way they are or the way they're living.

[notarobot2009]

It is sad to read the narrow minded dribble of people who are afraid to follow the golden rule "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself".

Discrimination is wrong, it is too bad you don't get it yet!

[carnaco2]

God said to love our neighbor, not condone their sin. This church does just that by its watering down of Scripture to make homosexuality acceptable in the eyes of God.

We're also told that if we find a brother sinning, to lead him out of that sin. This church doesn't do that.

[carnaco2]

Steer clear of this church. They've so watered down the Word of God that they're basically the same as Unitarian church.

[Holebis]

Wise decision ! Added to favourites and my gayfaith playlist.

I want to add something : A new prophet (NOT, J. Schmidt, but a European prophet/mystic) of 19th century wrote the following : 1 drip of compassion/grace is more then a sea of rightousness. If you want to know more about this prophet, pleas PM me.

Greetings from Belgium

Hoiebis ♥ ♂♂,♀♀♥

[TheBlackGander]

God created everything and it was good (Gen 1:31) When sin entered the world, man fell and became a sinner (Gen 3:6) Jesus came and fulfilled the law (John 19:30), but that didn't change the fact that homosex is still an abomination. The LORD said, "I change not.." (Malachi 3:6)

[carnaco2]

All Saints in Pasadena is one of the most liberal churches in their denomination. The fact they are able to get around the clear reading of the Word of God and sanction homosexual unions is just one of their reinterpretations of Scripture to please the itching ears of today's society.

[SouthernGent55]

The All Saints Church of Pasadena, California is full of gays and lesbians, and they clearly do not have a high view of Scripture! Ed Bacon is perhaps a "Closet" homosexual himself!

[Rosaline27]

so this is how morality and decency dies...with thunderous applause...

there is no "freedom" with out the law...

[URAterrorist]

I agree with the Wright Rev. As well as the fact that AIDS was also a gift from God to the sodomites (homosexuals).

[billjkahn]

He needs to re-evaluate his "true" vocation; because he's certainly in the Wrong One!! He knows what the Bible says about the Perversion of homosexuality. He's "ministering" the Untruth and Abominatiion that homosexuality is, as though it is good and right. He cares Not for the souls of others as well as his own. He is Blinded just like the ones who have SSA(same sex attraction) or GID gender identification disorder. Who knows, maybe he has the same disorder.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

For Rev. Ed Bacon

Luk 17:2

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

23 Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

Leviticus 18:22

Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

[neenerpuss]

1 Samuel 18:1,3

"And it came to pass, when he [David] had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul . . . And Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul."

And immediately afterward, Jonathan DISROBED before David:

How often do you get naked with your friends?

Sounds like a gay marriage to me.

MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!

[carnaco2]

"Sounds like a gay marriage to me"

No doubt All Saints would say that too, but it doesn't stand the test of good Biblical scholarship. God doesn't ok homosexual "marriages", despite what the good Rev Ed says.

[neenerpuss]

There is no other way you can read it.

You're just another bigot who wants to PICK AND CHOOSE!

Enough...we have had ENOUGH!

MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!

[carnaco2]

Well, if you want a church with no bigots, try All Saints. They've basically tossed all sins out of the Bible so anything goes, which means that nobody cares what deviant things others do. So what if it's in the Bible as sin. All Saints has their own version of the Bible.

[neenerpuss]

Im sure if I met you...I could quickly find MANY sins the you commit everyday. Yet you feel its OK to condemn me for LOVE. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

Right now three things remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is LOVE.

MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!

[carnaco2]

"Right now three things remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is LOVE."

The city of Sodom had a different kind of love. Didn't sit too well with God, Who is love.

[ArchangelSean30]

@neenerpuss

Are you a Hebrew scholar? David loves Jonathan as soul. The Love used in 1 Samuel 20:17 in Hebrew has two meaning means 1)ʾahabâ and 2) ahab means that David 1) love Jonathan as his own kin or unbreakable friendship, a-hab-aw 2)Love reaffirmation.

And immediately afterward, Jonathan DISROBED before David:

Nothing like that happened in scripture, what Bible are you reading it sure not the Bible. That statement is outright wrong ans twisted, which you are so twisted.

[ArchangelSean30]

@neenerpuss

How often do you get naked with your friends?

In the scripture David nor Jonathon got naked, make things up as you go. It shows that you cant understand Biblical context or the language that was used.

They covenant if you bother to read the Book David was anointed King by God, and Jonathan knew that Saul his father will fall , and David would rule Judah/Israel. Jonathan was making covenant with David that he and his house hold would be loyal to the new King.

[ArchangelSean30]

@neenerpuss Sounds like a gay marriage to me.

It's not gay marriage it's convenant in Hebrew amake a league or pact ([covenant]), are you that deprave and ungodly you can't even understand basic love for one another without it being Gay affection. Yo are lost, so lost you need Jesus to bring you back.

[tonyc482]

From the beginning it's been very difficult for people to find the message of Jesus buried under all the hype. We don't have a single direct quote from the man. We don't have a single original page from any book of the Bible. 1st century Christians fought over whether Jesus was born God's son, or became God's son at Baptism and killed each other over it. If you agree that God is love and wants us all to love each other you'll live a happier life than if you hate and condemn those who do love.

[deeteetwo]

God bless YOU!

[remix262]

good for him. if i heard this in church when i was 12 years old, it would have saved me and other families a lot of grief and i may have actually remained christian.

[ffarff]

Absolutely agreed.

[jebeja]

remix262, I'm really not trying to be funny here, but might I ask exactly what 'you' based 'your' premise of Christianity on then? The main reason that I ask this question is because so many people have taken the Word of God and twisted it into what 'they' wanted it to be, and not what God says it is and have decided in turn that they don't need God, Jesus, or 'their' Word (the Bible). God never said we'd understand everything that happened to us, but that 'He'd keep us' through ALL of it.

[remix262]

no worries, jebeja. just because i don't identify myself as christian, doesn't mean i've lost all faith. :-)

[deeteetwo]

You're a child of God. That matters most. Christianity isn't a religion -- it's a faith. :)

[jebeja]

deeteetwo, That's part of the problem, most people 'do' identify Christianity as a 'religion', when it is no such thing, as God/Jesus want to have a 'heart' felt "relationship" with ALL of mankind, but sadly our selfish 'motives' and 'religion' have come into play and pushed man further away from the God/Jesus who've loved us, before the earth was even thought about.

[deeteetwo]

100% agree. I'm very fortunate to have grown up in a religion - and more specifically in a good church - that emphasizes the God/human connection above all else. At the end of the day (and our lives) it's all about aspiring to live as Jesus did. We will all fail, but using his teachings as a guide (not as an excuse to argue about word-for-word interpretation) and loving each other as we love ourselves is our task as humans. It's not more complicated than that. We muck it up.

[deeteetwo]

Thank you so much for writing that. Living in faith and according to His will isn't always convenient, easy or popular. But it's ALWAYS the way, the truth and the light.

[jackdnyc]

vladimirkhrustalev is gay. And god loves him and so do I.

[harryluvsdraco]

Which one of us should offer him a date, I wonder? Bitch really needs to chillax, he's so pent up with hatred and bigotry.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

Romans 1:24-32 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

[vladimirkhrustalev]

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

God loves all homosexuals! However, He hates the deeds of homosexuality because they are sinful. God did not create any human being as a homosexual.

[rextrek]

Im sure NO mythical GOD gives a crap what people do with thier Penis and vaginas....considering the gazillion heartaches in the world today ie: homelessness,starvation..war etc etc...love between consenting adults is all god would want us to do.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

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[TheBlackGander]

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Psalms 14:1

[vladimirkhrustalev]

These scriptures clearly state that these vile affections of men lusting for other men (gay men) or women lusting for other women (lesbians) are not the natural affections God created men and women to have for one another. Let me say here that God loves all homosexuals! However, He hates the deeds of homosexuality because they are sinful. God did not create any human being as a homosexual.

[vladimirkhrustalev]

Genesis 13:13: "But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly."

[vladimirkhrustalev]

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination."

[vladimirkhrustalev]

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

[vladimirkhrustalev]

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. Exodus 20:12

[tigerpilot32p]

It is exactly this type of religion that is killing the Episcopal Church. This late coming vocal minority is driving those of us who have been Episcopalians all our lives out of the church, looking for what we used to know, not what is being spewed here.

The number of people attending weekly worship has decreased, and we need look no further than this video to understand what is driving people away.

There is a place for people who wish to support gay marriage, but not the church I remember.

[Dedicednu]

Yeah, because that's what Jesus would want! An exclusive club reserved only for white men so they can use the bible to claim ownership of women and the home.

If you existed eighty years ago you would be saying the exact same thing except in terms of interracial marriages.

[deeteetwo]

tigerpilot32p - It's unfortunate you feel that way. I happen to be a lifelong Episcopalian. Baptized and confirmed in the Episcopal church. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Regardless of it, we will go on loving you and hoping you return to the church with an accepting heart.

[Dedicednu]

This is why I love the episcopal church. They are far ahead of their time.

One day the bigots will learn that their every action can be traced back through history.

They are the same people that would have discriminated agaisnt the left handed, supported slavery, opposed women voting, and opposed interracial marriages.

When gay marriages are legal and overwhelmingly supported, the Church will find something else to hate.

[NegevArc]

Wow a bigot calling others bigots. How original. They are definitely not the same people who supported all of the above, learn to read history before you type garbage.

[Dedicednu]

Ah, you're just being defensive and angry. I believe I know history far more than you do if you deny history. Conservatives are all the same....20 years behind the time.

[1Peter5v2]

Amen!

[NegevArc]

Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

That definition defines you not me. It is obvious everything you believe is a lie. Starting with you knowing any history at all from your previous comments. I am far from defensive or angry, I have nothing to defend and nothing to be angry about.

[NegevArc]

Also I might add I'm impressed with your ability to know the future and to judge what's right and wrong. I see we have a new god. Didicednu is our new leader everyone bow, for Didicendnu is greater than the LORD. She is soooo far ahead of his future and what not... /wrists

[Dedicednu]

At least I can copy and paste to get a username right.

As my first act of god I shall brainwash all of your ignorant people with a book of fables and demand that it dictates everything in your life.

Bow to the flying spaghetti monster. All you people are all the same.

[NegevArc]

Since we're getting off topic and your current rants have nothing to do with the previous arguments anyways, you are yet another case in favor of selective breeding.

Spaghetti monster is the best you can come up with? Where do you live, Sesame St.?

Back on topic; Why would you love a church or any denomination over the others when your not even a Christian? It more then kind of makes your opinion irrelevant on the topic.

[Dedicednu]

*Gasp!* You'll go to hell for talking about evolution, you know?

TFSM is a popular parody of the Christian God. Where do you live? Under a rock?

If my opinion is irrelevant then why are you bothering replying to me? I didn't say I loved one church over the others. But we all have a Church we feel more at home in than others. I just don't buy into the brainwash hysteria. I also support full equal rights for "godless homos."

Gay marriage will be accepted. Then Christians will hate someone else

[NegevArc]

Selective Breeding means your parents should not have produced you and you should not produce anything. kthx.

TFSM=Worn out and unoriginal. You are boring.

"This is why I love the episcopal church. They are far ahead of their time" <-would mean that you Love the Episcopal Church and "they are far ahead of their time" means everyone must be behind or at least the vast majority. How else could one take that?

[Dedicednu]

Typical Christian attitude into thinking that loving one MUST mean hating another. Bet your prolife too by saying things like that. Poor gay babies.

You are just plain stupid or delusional. Christians started to oppose slavery but they quickly changed their mind. Look up the definition of "conservative." Conservatives supported slavery, they opposed women voting, and they opposed interracial marriages, and they're opposing gay marriages. Who do you think opposed it back then? Liberals? HA!

[NegevArc]

So you did go look it up, so you do realize it was a Christian cause from the beginning; must be stinging. Conservativism varies from one country to another and one ideology to another- Again you need to become educated before you espouse your hate. There are no fundamental theological/rational otherwise arguments against interracial marrages, women voting, or for slavery; the arguments stand against. Gay marraige however does, it is niether rational or in alignment with God's will for people.

[jebeja]

NegevArc, Please excuse me for butting in here, but as you can see your umm conversation with Dedicednu is getting you no where, and we must remember that some people will oppose the Bible (unless something drastic happens to turn their hearts and minds around from their selfishness.) until the day they die. God/Jesus have 'proved' themselves over and over again to us, but many have hardened their hearts and closed their minds to 'them'. How about moving on to those who want to know Jesus?

[NegevArc]

Your first paragraph makes no sense. In fact it's nonsense.

Continue to call me names. You apparently fail at everything else, it really is your only option left to win this argument.

I'm laughing because you don't understand Conservatism in the political atmosphere. It varies from one culture to the next, and contains a variety of ideologies, and ideas. There are even Liberal Conservatives. Read sometimes, it might help.

[NegevArc]

You obviously are brainwashed so stop claiming your not. btw Abolishment of Slavery was a Conservative Christian Cause unless you continue to feel like rewriting history.

[reformedhispanic]

This man is an abomination! No connection to the living God of Scripture! He is an anti-christ which is the reason the goats in the congregation applaud! May God snatch some from the fire in which they are headed! They do not the are blind! And Ed Bacon, is their guide!

[SouthernGent55]

I live in Pasadena, and I can tell you that this man, Ed Bacon is as liberal as they come! I don't believe for one moment that he is a saved man! I don't believe that a God called man would propagate sexual perversion as a direct affront to the intent of Almighty God as it relates to marriage between one man and one woman for life!

By the way Mr. Bacon, your cause lost!

[JuvenileCross]

May we be aligned with Gods love indeed! For Gods love, "does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth".(1 Cor 13:6) Jesus said, "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word in Truth." (John 17:17) So let us turn to the Word of God (see 2 Tim 3:16) to see what God has to say on this message and topic. God please give us ears to hear what you say to Your people through your written Word the Bible. - Continues, see next post...

[JuvenileCross]

This teacher skipped the minor fact of the Fall and then goes on to say basically that man is good in Gods eyes, which is completely contrary to the Bible. God made man and woman in His image; then God saw everything He had made and it was very good. (Gen 1:26-31) But then sin entered creation (Gen 3) and messed everything up. - Continues, see next post

[JuvenileCross]

Then the Holy Spirit says, The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No not one. (Psa 14:2,3; Rom 3:9-18) - Continues, see next post

[JuvenileCross]

Furthermore, justice and righteousness go hand-in-hand. Jesus didn't tell the woman caught in adultery to go and continue in your illicit sexual sin. No, He forgave her and told her to sin no more (John 8:11). He exhorted her to live a life of righteousness, to not continue in sexual sin. Continues, see next post

[JuvenileCross]

The Bible clearly states homosexuality is sinful, Likewise, also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (Rom 1:27) Continues, see next post

[JuvenileCross]

We must obey God rather than man. To support "civil liberties" - which are given and taken away by society and/or governments - above the law of God, is spiritual blindness and nonsense. There once was a government who decided that there was a group of people who did not deserve "civil liberties" and thus exterminated over 6 million Jews. God forbid that we should so blindly obey man and not God. Listen to and obey His Word. Continues, see next post

[JuvenileCross]

Last post, God has very heavy words for those pastors/teachers who lead people into sin. But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! (Matt 18:6,7)

[s0there]

Where in scripture can one read of same-sex marriage as "God's dream", as suggested? Had the reverend read the next chapter in Genesis he would have read that marriage is the union of man and woman, a message Jesus affirms. An orthodox Jew, there is no reason to belief Jesus would see same-sex marriage as anything but a perversion of God's intention.

This is another example of church leadership bowing to the culture, rather than standing for the clear teaching of Christian orthodoxy.