I just watched a show about the 74-74 Flyers good show all in all. But being actually FROM Boston. I thought it strange how they left out all the battles they had with the Bruins. I’m not anti- Flyer, just sayin!
If I had to pick one fighter, no one on the ice but the 2 combatants, fight to the death, my choice would be Terry O'Reilly. Why ? because he played a full game of hockey and still kicked ass. Most fighters come out for 2 shifts, create chaos, and hit the showers. O'Reilly never missed a shift while battling the heavyweights of every team. You simply dont know how much courage it took to play and fight against the Flyers circa 1975..No comparisons today. None. Real grudges. Hated eachother.
@bailinnumberguy BULLSHIT dude, I have been a Los Angeles Kings fan since I lived in L.A. (born and raised in 1966 until 1987) in 1975 and I dug those Kings uniforms back in the day where they wore the Forum Blue and Gold (Gold at home, Forum Blue on the road). As for Dave Schultz, The Hammer was well liked when he played for us, but I will admit that Stan Jonathan gave him a run for his money, a great tilt between those two. EPIC.
Agree with tCROSSt The real tough guys back then never wore helmets.Its like fighting with a visor on today.not cool at all. Tiger Williams was another pussy like that...
I may have forgot that shultz played for the kings, but what i do know is Philly was voted the best hockey fans in the world !!! I forgot more about hockey than most people know !!!! superdali75 probably didnt even know there was hockey in LA until Gretzkey !! All the people who claimed to have hated the Flyers through the years were really closet Flyers fans !!!!
Schultz started his career as a fighter in the EHL..Coach Kilburn needed an enfrocer for the Roanoke Rebels and this strong kid at 18 w/ skills was picked up by the Rebs and Kilburn said you are our enforcer. ..people forget Schultz was a 25 goal scorer at least once for the Flyers..just brushing you up on history.
Jonathan was over rated. He lost many fights. He landed many solid shots on Shultz....and nothing. If want to give a fair analysis. Watch the Bouchard fight and how he slips and while he is down Jhonathan lands the damaging shots. Laraque in todays fights would never do this...just my opinion.
first, bouchard did not "slip" stan connected good blows to the nose and chin and knocked him down..second, he only hit him once when he was down,,bouchard got a broken nose and a broken orbitor bone,, not from that one punch.
So I don't claim to be unbiased but I can admit it when a Bruin loses. In the first place, I saw this fight when it happened and have a crystal clear copy of it on VHS. This was only Jonathan's 7th or 8th NHL fight and I don't think Schultz knew who he was tangling with. Despite the fact that Schultz was bigger, Stan was a MUCH harder puncher. Many of his victims -- Bouchard, Stewart, Hangsleben, Lorimer, Dupont, etc. -- looked like they'd been worked over by a couple of guys with crowbars.
Most people rate this bout a draw but Stan Jonathan actually won this fight -- let me present my take on the fight.
But first, before I'm accused of being a deranged Boston homer, I want to acknowledge that John Ferguson beat Ted Green, Gillies beat Jonathan, Nystrom and Harvey Bennet beat Wensink, Scott Stevens beat Jay Miller, etc. In fact, I heard Bob Wilson's radio broadcast of Dan Maloney beating the daylights out of Terry O'Reilly TWICE in one game in a nontelevised game in LA in '75!!
Now thats a Hockey Fight between two of the best. I will never be a fan of Dave Shultz but standing there toe to toe againts Stan Jonathan takes guts and deserves a lot of respect.
True enough. Scultz was past his prime here too..he was a dirty fighter and player, but he always answered the bell - even when he got old and was getting beaten by the younger guys looking to make a rep for themselves.
stan is my uncle. he had a younger brother chris. and if he had played hockey you think stan was a tuff good fighter chris would have devistated every and any body!
Long live the old-school Forum Blue and Gold of the Kings!!! I remember these jerseys in the mid-70s when guys like Butch Goring, Rogie Vachon and Marcel Dionne wore them and were even household names down in L.A. when I grew up there as a kid.
As for the Dave "Hammer" Schultz/Stan Jonathan tilt, I would call it a pretty good one..... KILL, KILL, KILL!!! THIS is OLD-TIME HOCKEY!!!
Fuck the new no-ties-no-fighting-watered-down NHL of today. Gary Betteman is a fucked-up retard douche!!!
Yeah, I became a King's fan in 1975 and the Kings/Boston playoff hooked me on hockey. I can't even watch hockey anymore. It's too boring. Bring back Ol' Time Hockey. Remember Kozak, Sargent, Hutchinson. Wiliamst to Goring to Murphey........He Scores!!!!!!!! Can you imagine how many goals Dionne would have scored if the league wouldn't let anyone touch him like they did with Gretzky? Dionne was tough though. And Fox taking Goring's #19. That Blasphemy I tell ya!!
From '67 to late 70's the Kings yellow jerseys (home) and purple (away) with the Kings crown in the middle were the best and i dont know why they ever changed. Maybe the Lakers had something to do with it. Also,i think Schultz decisioned Jonathon in this one.
Are you on crack? Those Uniforms were and stil are GAY! They changed because it was a marketing tool when they brought Gretzky there from Edmonton. The black and silver looked much cooler and became the number one selling jersey in the league for a couple of years!
The purple and yellow Uniforms were hideous. They were almost as bad as the Cannucks uniforms!
I have to disagree. Yes the black and silver were a top seller, but it was a lot of negroes and gangsters buying all those jerseys. Besides, Gretzky's more to LA (1988) was the beginning of the new era of expansion, which has essentially destroyed the Game as we once knew it. RIP, NHL.
You mean the Yellow Ones? No kidding! I live in Los Angeles, how do you think that I felt about them? The Lakers should be the only team in Purple and Gold, AND NO ONE ELSE!
Those yellow uniforms were the Kings' uniforms back in their Old Forum Days, and in all of my days of watching King's Hockey, never, could I have imagined Dave Schultz in a Kings Uniform.
All of those days, I have always Remembered, and Loathed him, as a Philadelphia Flyer.
Jonathan was the toughest "little man" in the league. A real bad ass. Schultz on the other hand was very overrated as a fighter. He won some but lost quite a few for someone with his reputation.
It depends..anyone can beat anyone in a single fight. Probert is considered the best ever, but Jonathan, who was listed at 5'8, was actually 5'7 and weighed 175 pounds. Probert was a lot bigger. I can guarentee you that it would have been worth the price of admission. This fight was counted as a loss for Jonathan, even though Id call it a draw. He had 8 career losses, and 3 of those 8 were to fighters ranked in the top 10 of all time by many experts. Behn Wilson, Clark Gillies, and Schultz.
@proberthull24 yep just throwin them , not hugging and holding these days, jonathan reminds me of rypien, small very quick and the capability to take down a giant on his pure speed
Hey folks the Bruins only lose about 5% of the time when Boston487744 wants to make himself seem honest. Otherwise all the other fights are a win or draw (no matter what the real outcome). Take you head from our of your ass Boston!
@boston487744 piece of shit hockey player we be so glad the punked out bruins never won with punks like jonny, wenshit and oh-riled up, got smeared by real teams.... habs and isles'
Bring back those unis!
bareknuckles2u 6 months ago
bobby nystrom was the best fighter ever in the NHL
bustballz 7 months ago
I just watched a show about the 74-74 Flyers good show all in all. But being actually FROM Boston. I thought it strange how they left out all the battles they had with the Bruins. I’m not anti- Flyer, just sayin!
jel517 8 months ago
If I had to pick one fighter, no one on the ice but the 2 combatants, fight to the death, my choice would be Terry O'Reilly. Why ? because he played a full game of hockey and still kicked ass. Most fighters come out for 2 shifts, create chaos, and hit the showers. O'Reilly never missed a shift while battling the heavyweights of every team. You simply dont know how much courage it took to play and fight against the Flyers circa 1975..No comparisons today. None. Real grudges. Hated eachother.
matt75hooper 10 months ago
Love the unis on both teams. Don't know why some folks hate the King's outfits so much. I think they're pretty cool. And I'm a Bruins fan, too.
Fairmont4ever 10 months ago
Wearing those ugly yellow uniforms is enough to make you mad enough to fight.
bailinnumberguy 11 months ago
@bailinnumberguy BULLSHIT dude, I have been a Los Angeles Kings fan since I lived in L.A. (born and raised in 1966 until 1987) in 1975 and I dug those Kings uniforms back in the day where they wore the Forum Blue and Gold (Gold at home, Forum Blue on the road). As for Dave Schultz, The Hammer was well liked when he played for us, but I will admit that Stan Jonathan gave him a run for his money, a great tilt between those two. EPIC.
AK47Music 8 months ago
agreed pound for pound SJ was the toughest
sbrydson 1 year ago
Yeah it was to bad both were big boozers ...chris beat up guys that were always drunk he wouldnt fight with someone he knew could fight.
rampage958 1 year ago
Dave Shultz Fights
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tehtoplinks 1 year ago
Hammer won that one.
harwicke 1 year ago
i would've expected Jonathan to do better here. he handled bigger guys well.
jasonwheel 1 year ago
Agree with tCROSSt The real tough guys back then never wore helmets.Its like fighting with a visor on today.not cool at all. Tiger Williams was another pussy like that...
syxtynyne 1 year ago
Geez, Schultz has to 2-1 disadvantage just because of his goofy looking uniform.
thishereguitar 1 year ago
In truth, Stan Jonathan was one tough cookie! He took on all comers. I would have loved to see him take on Tie Domi!
Jorge4402 1 year ago
Yellow jerseyman won this fight EDGING his opponent.
Old fight, very good one classic!
MrJuha82 1 year ago
I may have forgot that shultz played for the kings, but what i do know is Philly was voted the best hockey fans in the world !!! I forgot more about hockey than most people know !!!! superdali75 probably didnt even know there was hockey in LA until Gretzkey !! All the people who claimed to have hated the Flyers through the years were really closet Flyers fans !!!!
phillyguy672 1 year ago
IF STAN is such a hard rock how come he played AND fought with a helmet??????????????
tCROSSt 1 year ago
@tCROSSt Not his fault, his helmet was taped to his head, I believe they used duct tape.... Never seen him losing his helmet!
rockdCasbah 1 year ago
dave schultz won
rediculousnicholas 1 year ago
Well, Jonathan was about the toughest around when he played, so no surprise
torontorock13 1 year ago
When Dave Schultz was a King. Stan Jonathan owned this Piece of Shit!
Jiltedin2007 1 year ago
i didnt even know shultz played for la
phillyguy672 2 years ago
no one from Philly knows anything about hockey. If it doesn't happen in Philly it never happened.
SuperDali75 2 years ago 5
Schultz started his career as a fighter in the EHL..Coach Kilburn needed an enfrocer for the Roanoke Rebels and this strong kid at 18 w/ skills was picked up by the Rebs and Kilburn said you are our enforcer. ..people forget Schultz was a 25 goal scorer at least once for the Flyers..just brushing you up on history.
capitals40 1 year ago
Yeah, no shit! Only their Flyers do they know about.
Jiltedin2007 1 year ago
Jonathan was over rated. He lost many fights. He landed many solid shots on Shultz....and nothing. If want to give a fair analysis. Watch the Bouchard fight and how he slips and while he is down Jhonathan lands the damaging shots. Laraque in todays fights would never do this...just my opinion.
johnyknine 2 years ago
first, bouchard did not "slip" stan connected good blows to the nose and chin and knocked him down..second, he only hit him once when he was down,,bouchard got a broken nose and a broken orbitor bone,, not from that one punch.
En0ErUP 2 years ago
Dempsey00 if you really have a clear copy of this, please up load it onto youtube. This is history!
harwicke 2 years ago
Shultz won that tussle.
malawri67 2 years ago
Excuse me?!
Jiltedin2007 1 year ago
Hammer with the edge. I loved watching both these guys back in the day.
harwicke 2 years ago
Stan is not gonna win every fight he was smaller than every guy he fought.Pound for pound he was the toughest fighter in nhl history.
jhaughia 2 years ago 19
one of them for sure
Bizzangle 2 years ago
So I don't claim to be unbiased but I can admit it when a Bruin loses. In the first place, I saw this fight when it happened and have a crystal clear copy of it on VHS. This was only Jonathan's 7th or 8th NHL fight and I don't think Schultz knew who he was tangling with. Despite the fact that Schultz was bigger, Stan was a MUCH harder puncher. Many of his victims -- Bouchard, Stewart, Hangsleben, Lorimer, Dupont, etc. -- looked like they'd been worked over by a couple of guys with crowbars.
dempsey00 2 years ago 2
Most people rate this bout a draw but Stan Jonathan actually won this fight -- let me present my take on the fight.
But first, before I'm accused of being a deranged Boston homer, I want to acknowledge that John Ferguson beat Ted Green, Gillies beat Jonathan, Nystrom and Harvey Bennet beat Wensink, Scott Stevens beat Jay Miller, etc. In fact, I heard Bob Wilson's radio broadcast of Dan Maloney beating the daylights out of Terry O'Reilly TWICE in one game in a nontelevised game in LA in '75!!
dempsey00 2 years ago 2
Now thats a Hockey Fight between two of the best. I will never be a fan of Dave Shultz but standing there toe to toe againts Stan Jonathan takes guts and deserves a lot of respect.
Mortagne 2 years ago
True enough. Scultz was past his prime here too..he was a dirty fighter and player, but he always answered the bell - even when he got old and was getting beaten by the younger guys looking to make a rep for themselves.
Boxingbear 2 years ago
Shultz in a cakewalk
yimmitznarf 2 years ago
stan is my uncle. he had a younger brother chris. and if he had played hockey you think stan was a tuff good fighter chris would have devistated every and any body!
LKjonathan 2 years ago 7
I remember Jonathan. He was a great fighter and that's it. No other skills.
fenderbassfan 2 years ago
he scored a hat in one of the games in this seris not bad for no skills
dadblair 2 years ago 2
I think Schultz did very well in this fight actually
ottvalley 2 years ago
Long live the old-school Forum Blue and Gold of the Kings!!! I remember these jerseys in the mid-70s when guys like Butch Goring, Rogie Vachon and Marcel Dionne wore them and were even household names down in L.A. when I grew up there as a kid.
As for the Dave "Hammer" Schultz/Stan Jonathan tilt, I would call it a pretty good one..... KILL, KILL, KILL!!! THIS is OLD-TIME HOCKEY!!!
Fuck the new no-ties-no-fighting-watered-down NHL of today. Gary Betteman is a fucked-up retard douche!!!
AK47Music 2 years ago 3
Yeah, I became a King's fan in 1975 and the Kings/Boston playoff hooked me on hockey. I can't even watch hockey anymore. It's too boring. Bring back Ol' Time Hockey. Remember Kozak, Sargent, Hutchinson. Wiliamst to Goring to Murphey........He Scores!!!!!!!! Can you imagine how many goals Dionne would have scored if the league wouldn't let anyone touch him like they did with Gretzky? Dionne was tough though. And Fox taking Goring's #19. That Blasphemy I tell ya!!
fenderbassfan 2 years ago
you hit it right those where the days in LA Bob Miller !!! the best announcer in Hockey BAR NONE !!!!!!
andyuscum 2 years ago
i liked the yellow and purple uniforms too. the ones they switched to when gretzky got there werent bad, but the ones now are awful.
TMAN910 2 years ago
Damn!! Old Davey beat him ha ha
wrappindude 2 years ago
Win for Schultz
kodermac 3 years ago
From '67 to late 70's the Kings yellow jerseys (home) and purple (away) with the Kings crown in the middle were the best and i dont know why they ever changed. Maybe the Lakers had something to do with it. Also,i think Schultz decisioned Jonathon in this one.
ekim007bs 3 years ago
Are you on crack? Those Uniforms were and stil are GAY! They changed because it was a marketing tool when they brought Gretzky there from Edmonton. The black and silver looked much cooler and became the number one selling jersey in the league for a couple of years!
The purple and yellow Uniforms were hideous. They were almost as bad as the Cannucks uniforms!
BoSoxnation1972 3 years ago
I have to disagree. Yes the black and silver were a top seller, but it was a lot of negroes and gangsters buying all those jerseys. Besides, Gretzky's more to LA (1988) was the beginning of the new era of expansion, which has essentially destroyed the Game as we once knew it. RIP, NHL.
MNWildfan72 3 years ago
I don't disagree that Expansion ruined hockey, but I still liked the black kings uniforms better than the purple and yellow.
BoSoxnation1972 3 years ago
love seeing pusbag schultz getting owned-he was a dirty jagoff and a shitty fighter-more mouth than muscle-what a fag
RonyMexico 3 years ago
Schultz got the best of that one!
bloggo1 3 years ago
a ke gamisu malaka
camirocz 3 years ago
Holy heck init thats sixth line!
Hells74 3 years ago
Those uniforms are awful, lol
Dman442 3 years ago
You mean the Yellow Ones? No kidding! I live in Los Angeles, how do you think that I felt about them? The Lakers should be the only team in Purple and Gold, AND NO ONE ELSE!
Those yellow uniforms were the Kings' uniforms back in their Old Forum Days, and in all of my days of watching King's Hockey, never, could I have imagined Dave Schultz in a Kings Uniform.
All of those days, I have always Remembered, and Loathed him, as a Philadelphia Flyer.
Jiltedin2007 3 years ago
i agree the toughest pound for pound ever in the n.h.l jonathan
camirocz 4 years ago 2
What about Tie Domi ?
shanedoan101 3 years ago
That's a rarity to see Schultzie in a Kings uniform.
alartandy 4 years ago
Jonathan was the toughest "little man" in the league. A real bad ass. Schultz on the other hand was very overrated as a fighter. He won some but lost quite a few for someone with his reputation.
JimR541 4 years ago
SJ was def a bad motherfucker
rocketrob73 4 years ago
do you think he would of beat bob probert?
proberthull24 4 years ago
It depends..anyone can beat anyone in a single fight. Probert is considered the best ever, but Jonathan, who was listed at 5'8, was actually 5'7 and weighed 175 pounds. Probert was a lot bigger. I can guarentee you that it would have been worth the price of admission. This fight was counted as a loss for Jonathan, even though Id call it a draw. He had 8 career losses, and 3 of those 8 were to fighters ranked in the top 10 of all time by many experts. Behn Wilson, Clark Gillies, and Schultz.
boston487744 3 years ago
yeh i suppose anyone can lose a fight now and then those where the days eh god i miss the 70's to 90's
proberthull24 3 years ago
@proberthull24 yep just throwin them , not hugging and holding these days, jonathan reminds me of rypien, small very quick and the capability to take down a giant on his pure speed
Flyers20Fan 11 months ago
Hey folks the Bruins only lose about 5% of the time when Boston487744 wants to make himself seem honest. Otherwise all the other fights are a win or draw (no matter what the real outcome). Take you head from our of your ass Boston!
jcnyut000000000000 3 years ago
jc..I thought only cock-jockeys used the term "folks!" It's 2008 assclown! Not 1950! Move out of maybury and join the 21st century!
BoSoxnation1972 3 years ago
nilan of the canadiens got the better of him once
pjsbulldog67 3 years ago
@boston487744 piece of shit hockey player we be so glad the punked out bruins never won with punks like jonny, wenshit and oh-riled up, got smeared by real teams.... habs and isles'
graciemaemarie11 4 months ago
@rocketrob73 YES HE WAS , TOO BAD THE BRUINS ARE PUSSYS NOW
jrjr143 11 months ago
@jrjr143 Yeah, pussies with the Stanley Fucking Cup!
FarEastBeast 6 months ago
Stan Jonathan was one of the toughest guys in the league. Pound for pound, maybe the toughest.
bruthav 4 years ago
Too bad you really can't see much.
meanwiddlekid 4 years ago