That only work with the top San da fighter vs Average Muay Thai fighter, if you put top vs the Top, the San da fighter remain like a kicking bag to Muay Thai
To all of sanda & muay thai fans. This fight sanda guy 80 kg (180 lb) while muay thai guy only 72kg. If you want to see the result when sanda fight in the same weight with muay thai guy go here. watch?v=Zf1tYh2LIVY
LOL look at all these Chinese hating Muay Thai nuthuggers. I hate to break it to you but takedowns are very much part of a fight and has proven to be effective. It's not Sanda's fault that MT fighters have never trained to defend a takedown. Even if you allow the MT plum, a good Sanda fighter would simply scoop your leg from under you and slam you on your ass. You see this in modern day MMA, a fighter scoring takedowns usually wins.
This just shows how a good takedown artist can nullify the Muay Thai clinch. Liu's sidekick didn't look very sharp in this match though. Normally, Sanda fighters have quick/crisp sidekicks and I've seen Liu do it well before. Maybe he felt that moving in and performing takedowns was the smartest option. It worked :D
this MT fighter is not Sakmongkol, but his name is kreangkrai....LOLzz whe Lui got knees in the clinch referee had to stop!!! what kind of rule is this???
@Anatda, Liu was also not allowed to use ceratin takedowns because the Thais consider the moves too dangerous for their fighters. The fight was on compromised rules that both sides had agreed to.
Seems to be just a case of the Thai fighter being not used to Sanda rules: shorter fight time, faster pacing and throws and takedowns. Secondly, I noticed Liu HaiLong never really hurt Sakmokol in any way. He's just using movement and throws to aid him whenever he gets into trouble, collecting points along the way. That said, HaiLong is a good counter-kicker and great in a clinch.
Why?! Why can't we just get along and exchange ideas!? we can make beautiful art if we stop arguing on our petty differences and learn from each other? If i know something better then you, i'll teach you and if you know something better then me, then you'll teach me, and we'll become better in every way one mistake correction at a time. Wouldn't that be awesome? Instead of hating on each other, we make each other better? Imagine the possibilities! Thumbs up if you agree!
well muay thai looks a lot stiffer then sanda does. if you look at muay thai fights they both approach each other at the center of the ring and duke it out. They don't move in and out as much and their striking approach is different because of the goals. Muay thai strikes to strike but sanda strikes to masks throws at times. The flow of the two seem very different and i think sanda is great and a great style style to match up against muay thai. I personally love both! Dont hate, appreciate!
I don't know why every says that Sanda copys muay thai, it doesn't really at all, most styles have origins in kung fu, sanda is just kung fu adapted for full contact in the ring. Ofcourse it resembles muay thai and kickboxing, you take any style and use it in full contact, they'll all look like that. Also I don't get why people are trying to insult sanda when in pretty much every cross style fight with sanda that I see, sanda seems to win.
@pongpromsnitwong dude if you want a promoter then don't come on youtube. You must be one hell of a dumbass for coming here and advertising cos no promoter will spend time looking at videos. Besides, how can anyone prove that you actually can organize any event? You do not have anything that proves you can host anything.
"Small matters amuses small minds!" I find it funny how people spend their lives on YT arguing with strangers about trivial matters. The only thing u r achieving is raising ur blood pressures! U nit pick at the smallest irrelevant points & argue away as if people care what u say! And to make matters worse, most of the time ur points are misinformed, which makes it all the more amusing! All I can say, is when I am truely bored, I entertain myself with the arguments on YT. Makes me laugh!!!
Sanda is chinese, the strikes the throws are from Sweijuo which predates judo and is thousands of years old, and the kicks such as round houses, sweeps, side kicks are all in kung fu as well. They may have incorporated some boxing punches, but what is here is no copy of MT, it is purely a chinese art with a little boxing thrown in there since Traditional Chinese kung fu, uses all parts of the hand to strike, not with gloved fists.
@SinclairCeltics1990 As far as Sanda goes, there are so many throws and grabs, some of them are bound to look like wrestling and judo. Those techniques developed in China as well. It seems like you don't know much about chinese grappling (Shuai Jiao). It emphasizes speed more than gentle leverage. It's throwing the opponent quickly from any position. It doesn't look like kung fu because it's the utter combat application of different forms of kung fu. They simply discard what is useless in combat
@SinclairCeltics As far as beating someone outright in a fight, Muay Thai vs traditional Kung Fu would be a comparison of two completely different principles. Thai fighters are trained from the get-go to absorb blows and dish out some bombs. Kung Fu practicioners see physical exercise as a secondary factor in training, and focus on techniques. You're metaphorically pitting up a soldier against a guy who's trying to protect himself and avoid danger. Most* of the time, the thai fighter will win.
@AznSwordGod Wrong again, conditioning is just as important an aspect in real traditional kung fu. that silly stuff kung fu schools u see in cities where people just do forms is not real kung fu. Real kung fu fighters are just as a warrior and soldier as any other hardcore fighter. Only those city modern schools produce weaklings that pretend to be so called kung fu fighters.
One fact I want to share with youtubers that are interested in martial arts. People won't go out of their way to create a weird ineffective form of martial arts just to make it look original. Martial art is about beating the opponent with effectiveness.
Because the moving and entering in the striking zone is diferent, and in many chinese styles the style principles are prior to the tehniques something which is a mystery to the western world( e.g. wing tsun) and because it is difirenent type of contest, there are people that trained judo wrestling and kickboxing in mma but fedor( sambo) is the champion, so puting it all togather makes it diferent.
You can mix box and taekwando, but when you enter kickboxing fight you can never low head
Sanda is somelike a competitive sport and a mix of taekwondo, western boxing, and shuai jiao (a mongolian martial art). You wont see kung fu techniques from wushu such as wing chun or bagua zhang, etc in sanda. Kung fu martial arts are not meant to fight.
So if you say no kick boxing appeared in chinese martial arts, everyone'll likely agree with you.
@pongpromsnitwong Kickboxing originated from Karate, and Karate originated from China. So therefore kickboxing can draw it's lineage from Chinese martial arts.
Sanda or Sanshou as you see here is the natural result of Wushu. It has always been along side wushu of various schools of Chinese Martial Art. If you actually think Chinese martial artist fights the way you see it in movies...than you are sadly misinformed. Sanshou has existed since 221 BC wheras Muay Thai has been around for around 1000 years. Not to be little Muay Thai as I believe its one of the ultimate fighting style. Just one of them..not the only one.
@pongpromsnitwong, it already happened before. Nothing's new. The results were the same. Baoligao famously knocked out his opponent in Thailand, not in China. Check out the video on youtube. And I'm Thai too, so I'm not biased.
@novepe, by no means am i disregarding the sanda fighters skills or other non muay thai art forms. they all have their advantages and disadvantages. all i am saying is that you dont see guys from different art forms fighting "muay thai rules" and fighting there.i apologize for my ignorance with Sanda because i dont know much about it the way i see it. for instance take Lance Armstrong and have him compete on a mountain biking race. see how he does. They both involve bikes, but different styles.
Sucks for the thai guy. from watching this video knees and elbows are not allowed. The thai fighter has been training his whole life with incorporating knee and elbow strikes into his combinations. You see the hesitation in him because is he having to think hard about not throwing knees and elbows
@imajendispinoy Why the elbow pads if they aint allowed? They are man... Punching, kicking, knees, elbows and throws. This is allowed. I dont really get why is so hard to belive that some other style could kick muay thai ass.
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This and Muay Thai are NOT the same guys. They ONLY thing they have in common is boxing, and YES this IS kung fu. The throws, the takedowns, the kicks, the sweeps, and ALL found in traditional kung fu (as well as judo, greco-roman, et cetera).
@MartialArts4Ever there stance is much diff and it has more boxing and more head kicks. muy thai has harder knees elbows and standing defense. But overall you cant say much because most of a time a fighter will change a style a little bit for his gain.
Guys!!! do you think this is call REAL KUNG FU? I think this is more to wrestling. How can wrest people till fall down to get points. Never show the real fight. I have doubt on the rules and point. Correct me if i am wrong. From what i know the real attitude of martial art is never use trick to win.
this liu hailong man needs to step up to k1 if they want to say his the best, i bet he wouldnt last with buakaw or masato or kyshenko just to name a few
Liu Hai Long is obviously a great fighter, props to him, as a fighter i dont think he is afraid of any fighter in his weight class, but sadly for fans he is controlled by a communist government or Nationalist who is afraid of loosing face and that's a shame. Best fighter have to fight with the best, period. You wont be the best until you fight the best, win or loose, it's competittion. We want to see Liu HL vs Cung Le. It sucks not to happen because of saving face. BOOOOOO. I am a fan of both.
I don't know if Liu would be used to the elbow strikes in a match so it could catch him off guard. However, don't forget that Muay Thai isn't the only art which uses elbows and knees. Sanshou especially has some good elbow combinations that unfortunately aren't allowed in the ring.
They are unified rules. Elbow pads are worn but they don't reduce the elbows impact just the chances of bruses and scars which is understandable and clinch time is shorter but even so the muay thai fighters still got knockedout by them.
Tell me something are you a Muay Thai/Anti-Chinese/Anti-Kung Fu fan that's gonna whine that Chinese Martial arts beat your favorite art and can't accept it.
Of course not...I'm not whining because Muay Thai is still more popular than Sanshou and more people do Muay Thai. So I have nothing to whine for :) Hehehe
Neither do I :) because sanda is rising and we have Cung Le, Bao Li Gao, and Liu Hailong to thank for that. Imagine what would happen if they made a martial arts movie about it. lolz XD
More MMA fighters are now adopting Sanda into their styles.
Muay Thai is only effective when the practicioner has trained for decades to strengthen their bone density. Sanda is more fluid and versatile for the purpose of MMA.
Lets see, the best strikers in the MMA world tend to use Muay Thai. Even Machinda has crossed trained in Muay Thai, NOT sanshou. Look at the best of
K1, almost all of them train thai style as the dominant art, except for the kyokushin guys who still cross train it. Yeah, Sanshou is so much more appropriate...
@devilhunterred Tell me one good MMA fighter adopting Sanda into their style. Cung Le,the only notable Sanda/MMA fighter I know of, recently lost to a Muay Thai guy named Scott Smith at Stirkeforce. And Scott Smith, in my opinion, sucks in Muay Thai!
Sanda's striking isn't as good as Muay Thai; so they have to use takedowns to win by points. I don't think any Sanda fighter would be able to take on a Thai boxer with wrestling/grappling skills; e.g. Anderson Silva.
dood, that not true, takedowns are a good technique, not just for points, also just to bring the enemy down and make him have to watch out more by his kicks, no martial art is better than another, it allways depends on the person performing the art, look for example on a vid liu hailong beats muay thai, in other vids im sure muay thai wins, every martial arts has its good and bad things, but none is better than the other
@steveirwin12344321 I never said one martial art is better than the other. I believe that certain martial arts have better technique than the other. And I do agree that it also depends on the fighter.
Now, I'm sure we all agree that (Sport) Sanda is considered a striking/kickboxing martial art. Why are takedowns even used to score points in matches? It's like taking an MMA guy to use striking to win in the ADCC Submission Wrestling Championship!
@AL510Turbo911 but takedowns are a great technque agianst kicks and also, every martial art has great techniques, some have better kcickn g, some have better punching
@steveirwin12344321 Do you seriously believe that original kung fu (iron palms/iron fists/drunken boxing) can beat Muay Thai? Im sorry but the answer is NO. This's why sanda (which is the same with Muay Thai with some throwings) was developed in the 20th centuary in China military. Those iron palms do not stand a change against Muay Thai in Thailand with knee and elbow strikes allowed.
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well - shaolin iron body is unbeatable due to the persons body being as hard as steal - they cant be hurt - and sanda is like muay thia with throws and hardening so, i perosnaly would rather belive it is better than muay thia, but actually - no martial art is better than another, it is the person learning the art.
@steveirwin12344321 don't believe sinclairceltics1990 because she is trying to use my site to think she wins. that site I gave her she didn't even read the entire site where traditional kung fus like choy lay fut, bajiquan, and wing chun work effectively agains muay thai. She is just an immature troll out for attention.
@SunWukong4 yes that is true - and she doesnt belive sanda was not madei n the 20th century - it was made 2500 years ago along wiht shaolin gong fu - shaolin gong fu is show gong fu -whilst sanda is the real fighting and wasnt only the first martial art - but also- could beat muay thai too - since it depndso n the ifhgter, not the art he is performing.
@steveirwin12344321 actually sanda is made up of kung fu kicks punches grappling and wrestling. I think shiao jiao kung fu wrestling was before indian martial arts came to the shaolin temple while sanda/sanshou was a set of rules I think for lei tai platforms. Still sanda is kung fu of kung fu so it is pure kung fu
@SunWukong4 well - it is said to have been the art the monks used to protect the emperor of china - yes shuai jiao is also in sanda ;) but kung fu is awesome yes ;)
@SunWukong4 yes that is true - and she doesnt belive sanda was not madei n the 20th century - it was made 2500 years ago along wiht shaolin gong fu - shaolin gong fu is show gong fu -whilst sanda is the real fighting and wasnt only the first martial art - but also- could beat muay thai too - since it depndso n the ifhgter, not the art he is performing.
@steveirwin12344321 don't believe sinclairceltics1990 because she is trying to use my site to think she wins. that site I gave her she didn't even read the entire site where traditional kung fus like choy lay fut, bajiquan, and wing chun work effectively agains muay thai. She is just an immature troll out for attention.
Nobody owns the human body, so If someone just so happens to attack using the most efficient method already found in another martial art, it is because it is common sense, not that they like taking from other martial arts. In the end, the best fighter are often those most skilled in their category with the most efficient attack and defense. Thailand doesn't own your legs, use it however you want. People like SinclairCeltics1990 can't see past the fact.
I think Sanda doesn't have much MMA representation simply because it's not widely practised outside of China. It's getting more recognition though. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be successful in MMA. The striking is really similar to MT and the takedowns are very similar to wrestling and judo.
@SinclairCeltics1990 you are fucking stupid you keep saying over and over again how everything is better than sanda truth be told there is nbo better martial art sanda is a hybrid martial art of kung fu styles it was made by the chinese military after it was rules you can have a black belt in bjj and us any martial art including sanda with it you'll kick ass in the mma world.
@SinclairCeltics1990 sanda/sanshou are sport version of the system. its a collection of affective art such as shuai jiao/ chinese wrestling can be dated way back B.C. tradition can be seen in mongolian wrestling today. most of that art has evovled and carried to judo & jj in japan. so, yeah not all kung fu looks like the movies.
@SinclairCeltics1990 Why would you go through the trouble to take classes in all these martial arts when you can take the best of them and put it in one martial art form. The fault that lies in traditional old martial arts is that they don't adapt to change, so often one type of martial art is better than the other when the adversaries are equally matched. Today, we look past tradition and put function before arts in martial arts (though anything can be considered art nowadays).
This is because there is no other sport that combines those two and only focuses on those two (well there are similar sports such as shoot boxing, but sanda is a popular one)
There is transition between the two sports and strategies which are not found if the two sports are practiced separately.
@SinclairCeltics1990 well that's because sanda is a hybrid fighting style, the techniques are based on several DIFFERENT fighting styles of chinese martial arts. but it's mainly designed for combat efficiency.
@SinclairCeltics1990 What does "kung fu" look like? Like in the wire fu movies? Kung fu is an umbrella term for literally hundreds of distinct Chinese martial art styles ranging from grappling styles over close-up machine-gun-punch styles to acrobatic leaps and kicks styles, from internal "obtain strength through meditation" styles to external "bang your head until you feel no pain" styles. Sanshou is just one of them, probably the most practical.
@SinclairCeltics1990 As for grappling, there are over 300 throws, over 700 Chin Na techniques, and thousands of styles in Chinese martial arts. How can you possibly compare one Muay Thai to all of Chinese martial arts? Also, all the general techniques trained in Sanshou have been nit-picked from Chinese martial arts.
Sanda doesn't look like kung fu? What the fuck do you know about kung fu?
Part 2- Also, how often do you see Judo guys successfully throw their opponents in a fight the way Sanshou guys do? How often do you see top MMA fighters use kicking, striking, and wrestling so simultaneously as Sanshou guys do?
Would it be better to learn MT for striking and take-downs from Judo? Fuck nah.
@ForwardIntent Sort of apples and oranges. The sports are very different. Sanshou fighters can afford to be stronger and have less stamina because of the stop and go nature of sanshou bouts. MMA bouts will allow clinching and grappling for longer periods of time before separating fighters, and rounds last 5 minutes instead of 3.
Also, in a sanshou bout with the typical head gear and body armor, catching kicks to the body or even head is less risky meaning you see more throws.
Sinclair, general misperception (1) KF is like what we saw in movies like Matrix (2) Sanda/Sanshou is created by Chinese govt. Truth is that the Chinese (not the govt - govt not that good to create this awesome style) put together a standup style that borrows from many of the 300 Chinese traditional styles. Sanshou borrows heavily from suaijiao & baji for throwing, hung gar, WC, etc. The biggest advantage is that we learn this fantastic punch-kick-throw combo as an integral move.
@SinclairCeltics1990 i heard the very subtle basics in it comes from kung fu. take downs from chinese wrestling (shuai jiao), stand-up from choy li fut, and the usage of center line from wing chun. Also wushu helps balance.
@SinclairCeltics1990 In Wrestling, I don't think you're allowed to trip people with your legs, and MT is really similar to Shaolin Kung Fu so the differences here aren't too different.
@SinclairCeltics1990 Why would people do Muay Thai if the striking is similar to Sanda? Why would people do wrestling and judo if their takedowns are similar to Sanda?
Wouldn't it be better to learn Sanda for striking and throws/takedowns from experienced Sanda fighters who have built their fighting record while fighting in a ruleset that allows for a blend of both throws/takedowns and striking?
To be honest, thats because your definition of kung fu is probably something similar to the movies.
@Sinclair, ppl strike the similar way when you put on gloves. Well slight difference, such as MT and Sanda don't use upper cut as effectively as boxing. But basic jab straight etc are the same. Sanda takedown is from Chinese Shuaijiao. Great thing about Sanda is that you learn how to use strike/kick/takedown in one combo. Serious martial artists will know how difficult a combo is. Btw, there are hundreds of kungfu style. So you can't really say "it doesn't look like kungfu". Which kungfu?
@SinclairCeltics1990 what the hell would you expect them to do in a ring??flying eagle and drunken tiger moves?this is sport kung fu for fuck sake.in a ring you cannot hop around like jackie chan.
and why do u think sanda is inferior just because it mixes mt and wrestling techniques?why would it be better do to these techniques on separate trainings??think about it....
wtf Cung Le is best representation for sanshou, his striking is so much better, not to mention this liu hailong cant do scissor kick takedowns or souplexes in real battle!!!!
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Talking about restrictions?
Sanda in the ring is the most cripled
style of Chinese martial art forms.
In the real battle, not only elbow, knees any is allowed, there are also the techniques of attacking the most fragile parts of human body, one hit drop dead,
sanda is very open fight so u can knock with elbow knee or punch if they fight on mt rule only bcause kung fu have all weakness they get confuse if they do mt rule its like pro mt fight with bginner
That only work with the top San da fighter vs Average Muay Thai fighter, if you put top vs the Top, the San da fighter remain like a kicking bag to Muay Thai
Fidelchan1 1 month ago in playlist Sanda
Yeah..u guys r rite....about more techniques...maybe some old school muay thai chaiya.
quantumcranium 3 months ago
annoying crowd
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if muay thai rule , clinch ref not separate im sure sanda guy will eat knees till he full up
ladnawee 6 months ago
To all of sanda & muay thai fans. This fight sanda guy 80 kg (180 lb) while muay thai guy only 72kg. If you want to see the result when sanda fight in the same weight with muay thai guy go here. watch?v=Zf1tYh2LIVY
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HangTeam 7 months ago 2
LOL look at all these Chinese hating Muay Thai nuthuggers. I hate to break it to you but takedowns are very much part of a fight and has proven to be effective. It's not Sanda's fault that MT fighters have never trained to defend a takedown. Even if you allow the MT plum, a good Sanda fighter would simply scoop your leg from under you and slam you on your ass. You see this in modern day MMA, a fighter scoring takedowns usually wins.
ILike2DrinkAlot 7 months ago 7
@ILike2DrinkAlot you're right... and all the falling onto the mat and getting up again actually wears the thrown fighter out faster.
lucidmist 3 months ago
the thing is this guy is like a sanda champ but the thai guy is no big figure.
MKSiakKSGW94 8 months ago
china's land of copy ...............
MrLeeo88911 8 months ago
where are the knees and elbows?the rules suck.the thai fighter is better than the chinese dude.
240kankan 8 months ago
liu hai long never fight out china ha ha ha
kitrawee09 9 months ago
@kitrawee09 Lets see him battle a Fairtex family member ;)
MrBadzooka 8 months ago
This just shows how a good takedown artist can nullify the Muay Thai clinch. Liu's sidekick didn't look very sharp in this match though. Normally, Sanda fighters have quick/crisp sidekicks and I've seen Liu do it well before. Maybe he felt that moving in and performing takedowns was the smartest option. It worked :D
leavemealone2006 10 months ago
wrestler vs muaythai
takedowns only !!!
gunzbeginz 11 months ago
this MT fighter is not Sakmongkol, but his name is kreangkrai....LOLzz whe Lui got knees in the clinch referee had to stop!!! what kind of rule is this???
Anatda 1 year ago
@Anatda, Liu was also not allowed to use ceratin takedowns because the Thais consider the moves too dangerous for their fighters. The fight was on compromised rules that both sides had agreed to.
Ultra1980 1 year ago
Wow....wat a queer the guy is scared to stand and bang with the MT fighter....typical of a sanda fighter tho I must say.
anklebreaka03 1 year ago
ive taken both Sanda and Muay thai... and i find these them similar..
Its more about the fighter than the fighting style anyways...
Mixed martial art is the best though.... does anyone disagree?
nuggert 1 year ago
The audio's is way off.
failfiction 1 year ago
Seems to be just a case of the Thai fighter being not used to Sanda rules: shorter fight time, faster pacing and throws and takedowns. Secondly, I noticed Liu HaiLong never really hurt Sakmokol in any way. He's just using movement and throws to aid him whenever he gets into trouble, collecting points along the way. That said, HaiLong is a good counter-kicker and great in a clinch.
thecheeze9001 1 year ago
sokmokol who the hell is he never heard of he sucks at MT...
SEND HAILONG TO FIGHT NATHAN CORBETT
rodtorre7 1 year ago
Why?! Why can't we just get along and exchange ideas!? we can make beautiful art if we stop arguing on our petty differences and learn from each other? If i know something better then you, i'll teach you and if you know something better then me, then you'll teach me, and we'll become better in every way one mistake correction at a time. Wouldn't that be awesome? Instead of hating on each other, we make each other better? Imagine the possibilities! Thumbs up if you agree!
fadedsideways 1 year ago
well muay thai looks a lot stiffer then sanda does. if you look at muay thai fights they both approach each other at the center of the ring and duke it out. They don't move in and out as much and their striking approach is different because of the goals. Muay thai strikes to strike but sanda strikes to masks throws at times. The flow of the two seem very different and i think sanda is great and a great style style to match up against muay thai. I personally love both! Dont hate, appreciate!
fadedsideways 1 year ago 24
@fadedsideways gostei do que disse é sempre bom lembra que não existe melhor luta e sim melhor lutador.
abraço
jonasangelim 9 months ago
sanshou sanda is a great martial arts. I love mt as well.
fightinggymsweden 5 months ago
@fadedsideways fair comment!
lucidmist 3 months ago
CHINK wa wa counterfeit the battle again....horrible.
ninjaFAMAS 1 year ago
Muai tai copy of Kung Fu
Seres1091 1 year ago
Real Fighters should fight with no rules. Fuck this kind of match. It's fucking meaningless.
maomao667 1 year ago
@maomao667 It would also lead to more deaths and injuries...
JJJ10101 1 year ago
I don't know why every says that Sanda copys muay thai, it doesn't really at all, most styles have origins in kung fu, sanda is just kung fu adapted for full contact in the ring. Ofcourse it resembles muay thai and kickboxing, you take any style and use it in full contact, they'll all look like that. Also I don't get why people are trying to insult sanda when in pretty much every cross style fight with sanda that I see, sanda seems to win.
jjjaaaccckkk 1 year ago 3
Sanda is a copycat of arts?? Truee...... Fuck yeah. Admit that chinesee. Your Kung Fu suck! hahahaq... No disrespect.
MasterPreng 1 year ago
sanda weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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@pongpromsnitwong dude if you want a promoter then don't come on youtube. You must be one hell of a dumbass for coming here and advertising cos no promoter will spend time looking at videos. Besides, how can anyone prove that you actually can organize any event? You do not have anything that proves you can host anything.
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@pongpromsnitwong dude just shut the fuck up. everyone here knows that you are just bitter that the thai fighter lost.
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pongpromsnitwong 1 year ago
"Small matters amuses small minds!" I find it funny how people spend their lives on YT arguing with strangers about trivial matters. The only thing u r achieving is raising ur blood pressures! U nit pick at the smallest irrelevant points & argue away as if people care what u say! And to make matters worse, most of the time ur points are misinformed, which makes it all the more amusing! All I can say, is when I am truely bored, I entertain myself with the arguments on YT. Makes me laugh!!!
JJJ10101 1 year ago 2
Sanda is chinese, the strikes the throws are from Sweijuo which predates judo and is thousands of years old, and the kicks such as round houses, sweeps, side kicks are all in kung fu as well. They may have incorporated some boxing punches, but what is here is no copy of MT, it is purely a chinese art with a little boxing thrown in there since Traditional Chinese kung fu, uses all parts of the hand to strike, not with gloved fists.
wonphi 1 year ago
sanda is a copy of mt enough with this chinese propaganda!!!!!!!!
we say what we see,its a copy!!!!i dare to say a good one too :)
Tzefri84 1 year ago
@Tzefri84 your an idiot who must be blind
wiredtoawall 1 year ago
@wiredtoawall and u are chinese that why u dont agree
even a blind man can tell its a copy lol!!!
Tzefri84 1 year ago
@Tzefri84 dude if u wanna argue at least type something that makes sense, what is a copy?
wiredtoawall 1 year ago
@wiredtoawall i dont want to argue but where was sanda 15-20 years ago?
its a clean copy of MT thats all!!
Tzefri84 1 year ago
@Tzefri84 being new has nothing to do with copying MT. Besides everyone can see all the moves are from traditional Chinese Martial Arts.
wiredtoawall 1 year ago
@Tzefri84
What's wrong with sanda copying muay thai? The chinese copy everything you know. So take it easy.
TAC412 1 year ago 2
@TAC412 i take it easy my friend.i just dont like the fact the try to pass that sanshou is a unique and independent fighting style
Tzefri84 1 year ago 3
@SinclairCeltics1990 As far as Sanda goes, there are so many throws and grabs, some of them are bound to look like wrestling and judo. Those techniques developed in China as well. It seems like you don't know much about chinese grappling (Shuai Jiao). It emphasizes speed more than gentle leverage. It's throwing the opponent quickly from any position. It doesn't look like kung fu because it's the utter combat application of different forms of kung fu. They simply discard what is useless in combat
AznSwordGod 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics As far as beating someone outright in a fight, Muay Thai vs traditional Kung Fu would be a comparison of two completely different principles. Thai fighters are trained from the get-go to absorb blows and dish out some bombs. Kung Fu practicioners see physical exercise as a secondary factor in training, and focus on techniques. You're metaphorically pitting up a soldier against a guy who's trying to protect himself and avoid danger. Most* of the time, the thai fighter will win.
AznSwordGod 1 year ago
@AznSwordGod Wrong again, conditioning is just as important an aspect in real traditional kung fu. that silly stuff kung fu schools u see in cities where people just do forms is not real kung fu. Real kung fu fighters are just as a warrior and soldier as any other hardcore fighter. Only those city modern schools produce weaklings that pretend to be so called kung fu fighters.
wonphi 1 year ago
One fact I want to share with youtubers that are interested in martial arts. People won't go out of their way to create a weird ineffective form of martial arts just to make it look original. Martial art is about beating the opponent with effectiveness.
Vaylemn 1 year ago
sanda is da best ever in MMA..
crusherwu 1 year ago
yawns
SatanicSilencieux 1 year ago
Because the moving and entering in the striking zone is diferent, and in many chinese styles the style principles are prior to the tehniques something which is a mystery to the western world( e.g. wing tsun) and because it is difirenent type of contest, there are people that trained judo wrestling and kickboxing in mma but fedor( sambo) is the champion, so puting it all togather makes it diferent.
You can mix box and taekwando, but when you enter kickboxing fight you can never low head
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pongpromsnitwong 1 year ago 33
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Sanda is somelike a competitive sport and a mix of taekwondo, western boxing, and shuai jiao (a mongolian martial art). You wont see kung fu techniques from wushu such as wing chun or bagua zhang, etc in sanda. Kung fu martial arts are not meant to fight.
So if you say no kick boxing appeared in chinese martial arts, everyone'll likely agree with you.
TAC412 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong
I'm Taiwanese American, I totally agree with U!!!!
I'm also a Muay Thai fighter!!
nosmokingbaby 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong Kickboxing originated from Karate, and Karate originated from China. So therefore kickboxing can draw it's lineage from Chinese martial arts.
privateer456 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong
Sanda or Sanshou as you see here is the natural result of Wushu. It has always been along side wushu of various schools of Chinese Martial Art. If you actually think Chinese martial artist fights the way you see it in movies...than you are sadly misinformed. Sanshou has existed since 221 BC wheras Muay Thai has been around for around 1000 years. Not to be little Muay Thai as I believe its one of the ultimate fighting style. Just one of them..not the only one.
liangweilian 1 year ago
@liangweilian He's a loser. Ignore him.
cwmak70 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong
SCREW IT, why don't we all do MMA!!
chnsx7 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong and let them fight kard chiek
viento00 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong
despite all the fighting, this Thai fighter got his ass beat.
If Liu knew submissions, he would be a very good MMA fighter.
stubaru 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong what do you want to prove? which martial art is better? that's nonsense. Fights determine the best fighter, not the best MA.
Firionel87 1 year ago
@pongpromsnitwong, it already happened before. Nothing's new. The results were the same. Baoligao famously knocked out his opponent in Thailand, not in China. Check out the video on youtube. And I'm Thai too, so I'm not biased.
Ultra1980 1 year ago
stuuuuuuuuuupid take downs!!! Useless! DO they think taking down does damage in a stand up fight???
raikoMasato 1 year ago
@novepe, by no means am i disregarding the sanda fighters skills or other non muay thai art forms. they all have their advantages and disadvantages. all i am saying is that you dont see guys from different art forms fighting "muay thai rules" and fighting there.i apologize for my ignorance with Sanda because i dont know much about it the way i see it. for instance take Lance Armstrong and have him compete on a mountain biking race. see how he does. They both involve bikes, but different styles.
imajendispinoy 1 year ago
China is the origin of Asian martial arts, end of story.
0pTicaL823 1 year ago
muay thai was created by the thais way before the chinese immigrants ever landed. So stfu lol
TAC412 1 year ago
Sucks for the thai guy. from watching this video knees and elbows are not allowed. The thai fighter has been training his whole life with incorporating knee and elbow strikes into his combinations. You see the hesitation in him because is he having to think hard about not throwing knees and elbows
imajendispinoy 1 year ago
If he were that good, he could have adapted.
jason44231 1 year ago
@imajendispinoy Why the elbow pads if they aint allowed? They are man... Punching, kicking, knees, elbows and throws. This is allowed. I dont really get why is so hard to belive that some other style could kick muay thai ass.
novepe 1 year ago
@imajendispinoy Are you blind? There were knees allowed to stfu.
FlaknuuTe 1 year ago
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This and Muay Thai are NOT the same guys. They ONLY thing they have in common is boxing, and YES this IS kung fu. The throws, the takedowns, the kicks, the sweeps, and ALL found in traditional kung fu (as well as judo, greco-roman, et cetera).
MartialArts4Ever 2 years ago
@MartialArts4Ever there stance is much diff and it has more boxing and more head kicks. muy thai has harder knees elbows and standing defense. But overall you cant say much because most of a time a fighter will change a style a little bit for his gain.
jaredg613 2 years ago
euuhuehuhae
hey jackass they are using boxing gloves
how they are going to fight on ground?!?!?
wtf
pernilongokinkin 2 years ago
aww no ground work?
EpikHigh408 2 years ago
write rules to win,how could you loose,3 points for throwing.
yimmiytube 2 years ago
kind of boring fight, just looking for the points with the takedowns, its like watching a wrestler vs a boxer.
acceso007 2 years ago
Guys!!! do you think this is call REAL KUNG FU? I think this is more to wrestling. How can wrest people till fall down to get points. Never show the real fight. I have doubt on the rules and point. Correct me if i am wrong. From what i know the real attitude of martial art is never use trick to win.
SY125Z 2 years ago
is liu hailong really in MMA now? when? where?
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SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
this liu hailong man needs to step up to k1 if they want to say his the best, i bet he wouldnt last with buakaw or masato or kyshenko just to name a few
headkicka 2 years ago
liu hailong is in mma now
UchihaItachi8989 2 years ago
Liu Hai Long is obviously a great fighter, props to him, as a fighter i dont think he is afraid of any fighter in his weight class, but sadly for fans he is controlled by a communist government or Nationalist who is afraid of loosing face and that's a shame. Best fighter have to fight with the best, period. You wont be the best until you fight the best, win or loose, it's competittion. We want to see Liu HL vs Cung Le. It sucks not to happen because of saving face. BOOOOOO. I am a fan of both.
2LIVESTOLIVE 2 years ago
I don't know if Liu would be used to the elbow strikes in a match so it could catch him off guard. However, don't forget that Muay Thai isn't the only art which uses elbows and knees. Sanshou especially has some good elbow combinations that unfortunately aren't allowed in the ring.
nagi85 2 years ago
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SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
they do use elbows dipshit this is unified rules. not all muay thais win every fight so shut up and live it
SunWukong4 2 years ago
@SunWukong4, true and it happens only when Muay Thai fighter is not allow to do any shit LOLz
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
or when they are up against and get koed by the better opponent. Trust me Liu Hailong and Baoligao have koed them, rules had nothing to do with it.
SunWukong4 2 years ago
Then tell me why they "always" fight under Sanda's rules? :)
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
They are unified rules. Elbow pads are worn but they don't reduce the elbows impact just the chances of bruses and scars which is understandable and clinch time is shorter but even so the muay thai fighters still got knockedout by them.
Tell me something are you a Muay Thai/Anti-Chinese/Anti-Kung Fu fan that's gonna whine that Chinese Martial arts beat your favorite art and can't accept it.
SunWukong4 2 years ago
Of course not...I'm not whining because Muay Thai is still more popular than Sanshou and more people do Muay Thai. So I have nothing to whine for :) Hehehe
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
Neither do I :) because sanda is rising and we have Cung Le, Bao Li Gao, and Liu Hailong to thank for that. Imagine what would happen if they made a martial arts movie about it. lolz XD
SunWukong4 2 years ago
good for you :P
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
Why thank you ^_^
SunWukong4 2 years ago
More MMA fighters are now adopting Sanda into their styles.
Muay Thai is only effective when the practicioner has trained for decades to strengthen their bone density. Sanda is more fluid and versatile for the purpose of MMA.
devilhunterred 2 years ago
Sorry, Muay Thai and BJJ are basic martial arts "all" MMA fighters practice.
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
Not true at all. You only consider them to practice Muay Thai because they use knee or elbow strikes, but they are not attack exclusive to Muay Thai.
devilhunterred 2 years ago
So true at all that they do Muay Thai O_o"
Well, they use Muay Thai clinches and knees :P
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
Lets see, the best strikers in the MMA world tend to use Muay Thai. Even Machinda has crossed trained in Muay Thai, NOT sanshou. Look at the best of
K1, almost all of them train thai style as the dominant art, except for the kyokushin guys who still cross train it. Yeah, Sanshou is so much more appropriate...
chiconspiricy 2 years ago
@devilhunterred Tell me one good MMA fighter adopting Sanda into their style. Cung Le,the only notable Sanda/MMA fighter I know of, recently lost to a Muay Thai guy named Scott Smith at Stirkeforce. And Scott Smith, in my opinion, sucks in Muay Thai!
Sanda's striking isn't as good as Muay Thai; so they have to use takedowns to win by points. I don't think any Sanda fighter would be able to take on a Thai boxer with wrestling/grappling skills; e.g. Anderson Silva.
AL510Turbo911 2 years ago
dood, that not true, takedowns are a good technique, not just for points, also just to bring the enemy down and make him have to watch out more by his kicks, no martial art is better than another, it allways depends on the person performing the art, look for example on a vid liu hailong beats muay thai, in other vids im sure muay thai wins, every martial arts has its good and bad things, but none is better than the other
steveirwin12344321 2 years ago
@steveirwin12344321 I never said one martial art is better than the other. I believe that certain martial arts have better technique than the other. And I do agree that it also depends on the fighter.
Now, I'm sure we all agree that (Sport) Sanda is considered a striking/kickboxing martial art. Why are takedowns even used to score points in matches? It's like taking an MMA guy to use striking to win in the ADCC Submission Wrestling Championship!
AL510Turbo911 2 years ago
@AL510Turbo911 but takedowns are a great technque agianst kicks and also, every martial art has great techniques, some have better kcickn g, some have better punching
steveirwin12344321 2 years ago
I sincerely disagree. I think that some martial arts are indeed better than others.
devourerofbabies 2 years ago
no dude - every martial art has some good and bad aspects no martial arts is better, is is the perosn doing the art hwo is better or worse
steveirwin12344321 2 years ago 2
I never said the practitioner doesn't matter, of course it does. But some martial arts are simply more effective than others.
devourerofbabies 2 years ago
not really - theres is some better for real fighting while others are better for show and others again are better for becoming akrobatic and so on
steveirwin12344321 2 years ago
@steveirwin12344321 Do you seriously believe that original kung fu (iron palms/iron fists/drunken boxing) can beat Muay Thai? Im sorry but the answer is NO. This's why sanda (which is the same with Muay Thai with some throwings) was developed in the 20th centuary in China military. Those iron palms do not stand a change against Muay Thai in Thailand with knee and elbow strikes allowed.
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SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 8
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well - shaolin iron body is unbeatable due to the persons body being as hard as steal - they cant be hurt - and sanda is like muay thia with throws and hardening so, i perosnaly would rather belive it is better than muay thia, but actually - no martial art is better than another, it is the person learning the art.
steveirwin12344321 2 years ago
@steveirwin12344321 don't believe sinclairceltics1990 because she is trying to use my site to think she wins. that site I gave her she didn't even read the entire site where traditional kung fus like choy lay fut, bajiquan, and wing chun work effectively agains muay thai. She is just an immature troll out for attention.
SunWukong4 1 year ago
@SunWukong4 yes that is true - and she doesnt belive sanda was not madei n the 20th century - it was made 2500 years ago along wiht shaolin gong fu - shaolin gong fu is show gong fu -whilst sanda is the real fighting and wasnt only the first martial art - but also- could beat muay thai too - since it depndso n the ifhgter, not the art he is performing.
steveirwin12344321 1 year ago
@steveirwin12344321 actually sanda is made up of kung fu kicks punches grappling and wrestling. I think shiao jiao kung fu wrestling was before indian martial arts came to the shaolin temple while sanda/sanshou was a set of rules I think for lei tai platforms. Still sanda is kung fu of kung fu so it is pure kung fu
SunWukong4 1 year ago
@SunWukong4 well - it is said to have been the art the monks used to protect the emperor of china - yes shuai jiao is also in sanda ;) but kung fu is awesome yes ;)
steveirwin12344321 1 year ago
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@SunWukong4 yes that is true - and she doesnt belive sanda was not madei n the 20th century - it was made 2500 years ago along wiht shaolin gong fu - shaolin gong fu is show gong fu -whilst sanda is the real fighting and wasnt only the first martial art - but also- could beat muay thai too - since it depndso n the ifhgter, not the art he is performing.
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@steveirwin12344321 don't believe sinclairceltics1990 because she is trying to use my site to think she wins. that site I gave her she didn't even read the entire site where traditional kung fus like choy lay fut, bajiquan, and wing chun work effectively agains muay thai. She is just an immature troll out for attention.
SunWukong4 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990
Nobody owns the human body, so If someone just so happens to attack using the most efficient method already found in another martial art, it is because it is common sense, not that they like taking from other martial arts. In the end, the best fighter are often those most skilled in their category with the most efficient attack and defense. Thailand doesn't own your legs, use it however you want. People like SinclairCeltics1990 can't see past the fact.
Vaylemn 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 No but Choy lei fut could beat muay thai.
NeiLoMei 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990
you don't know what you're talking about. probably watch too many kung fu flicks
shilkenshilken 1 year ago
yeah thats right and chinese martial art is the best. and mma will always lose to sanda
kevint32 2 years ago
I think Sanda doesn't have much MMA representation simply because it's not widely practised outside of China. It's getting more recognition though. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be successful in MMA. The striking is really similar to MT and the takedowns are very similar to wrestling and judo.
devourerofbabies 2 years ago
look up patrick barry. i think hes gonna be the next cung le but in the heavy weight division of mma. hes currently kicking ass in the UFC :)
dss103 2 years ago
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cung le is using sanda/san shou in strikeforce
TheMyns 2 years ago
@devourerofbabies True and why would people do sanda if the striking is similar to MT and the takedowns are similar to wrestling and judo?
Wouldnt it be better to learn MT for striking and takedowns from Wrestling/Judo from experienced MMA fighters?
To be honest, Sanda doesnt look like kung fu to me at all
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 21
@SinclairCeltics1990 Look for cung lee and see why
novepe 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 you are fucking stupid you keep saying over and over again how everything is better than sanda truth be told there is nbo better martial art sanda is a hybrid martial art of kung fu styles it was made by the chinese military after it was rules you can have a black belt in bjj and us any martial art including sanda with it you'll kick ass in the mma world.
SunWukong4 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 sanda/sanshou are sport version of the system. its a collection of affective art such as shuai jiao/ chinese wrestling can be dated way back B.C. tradition can be seen in mongolian wrestling today. most of that art has evovled and carried to judo & jj in japan. so, yeah not all kung fu looks like the movies.
sharkskinsharpie 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 Why would you go through the trouble to take classes in all these martial arts when you can take the best of them and put it in one martial art form. The fault that lies in traditional old martial arts is that they don't adapt to change, so often one type of martial art is better than the other when the adversaries are equally matched. Today, we look past tradition and put function before arts in martial arts (though anything can be considered art nowadays).
Vaylemn 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 ya lol its more like mma muay thai lol but its ok all MA rocks xD
MechPhantom 1 year ago 2
@SinclairCeltics1990 Sanda doesn't look like kung fu to you because you know nothing about kung fu.
wonphi 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990
This is because there is no other sport that combines those two and only focuses on those two (well there are similar sports such as shoot boxing, but sanda is a popular one)
There is transition between the two sports and strategies which are not found if the two sports are practiced separately.
elbowtko 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 nobody listen to inexperienced banned idiot sinclair she knows nothing of history of sanda.
SunWukong4 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 well that's because sanda is a hybrid fighting style, the techniques are based on several DIFFERENT fighting styles of chinese martial arts. but it's mainly designed for combat efficiency.
superbaub 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 Are you also going to use your theory to "prove" that MMA is useless?
Alkaski 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 What does "kung fu" look like? Like in the wire fu movies? Kung fu is an umbrella term for literally hundreds of distinct Chinese martial art styles ranging from grappling styles over close-up machine-gun-punch styles to acrobatic leaps and kicks styles, from internal "obtain strength through meditation" styles to external "bang your head until you feel no pain" styles. Sanshou is just one of them, probably the most practical.
moismyname 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990
why learn judo from mma fighters and not judokas?
yannis3108 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 As for grappling, there are over 300 throws, over 700 Chin Na techniques, and thousands of styles in Chinese martial arts. How can you possibly compare one Muay Thai to all of Chinese martial arts? Also, all the general techniques trained in Sanshou have been nit-picked from Chinese martial arts.
Sanda doesn't look like kung fu? What the fuck do you know about kung fu?
ForwardIntent 1 year ago
Part 2- Also, how often do you see Judo guys successfully throw their opponents in a fight the way Sanshou guys do? How often do you see top MMA fighters use kicking, striking, and wrestling so simultaneously as Sanshou guys do?
Would it be better to learn MT for striking and take-downs from Judo? Fuck nah.
ForwardIntent 1 year ago 14
@ForwardIntent Sort of apples and oranges. The sports are very different. Sanshou fighters can afford to be stronger and have less stamina because of the stop and go nature of sanshou bouts. MMA bouts will allow clinching and grappling for longer periods of time before separating fighters, and rounds last 5 minutes instead of 3.
Also, in a sanshou bout with the typical head gear and body armor, catching kicks to the body or even head is less risky meaning you see more throws.
LemonNation 5 months ago
@ForwardIntent Good point bro
lucidmist 3 months ago
Sinclair, general misperception (1) KF is like what we saw in movies like Matrix (2) Sanda/Sanshou is created by Chinese govt. Truth is that the Chinese (not the govt - govt not that good to create this awesome style) put together a standup style that borrows from many of the 300 Chinese traditional styles. Sanshou borrows heavily from suaijiao & baji for throwing, hung gar, WC, etc. The biggest advantage is that we learn this fantastic punch-kick-throw combo as an integral move.
Ultra1980 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 i heard the very subtle basics in it comes from kung fu. take downs from chinese wrestling (shuai jiao), stand-up from choy li fut, and the usage of center line from wing chun. Also wushu helps balance.
mikeymarshful 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 In Wrestling, I don't think you're allowed to trip people with your legs, and MT is really similar to Shaolin Kung Fu so the differences here aren't too different.
failfiction 1 year ago
@failfiction how is it similar to shaolin?
thatsanai 1 year ago
@thatsanai Both use close offensive attacks, and use a lot of power in each blow.
failfiction 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 Why would people do Muay Thai if the striking is similar to Sanda? Why would people do wrestling and judo if their takedowns are similar to Sanda?
Wouldn't it be better to learn Sanda for striking and throws/takedowns from experienced Sanda fighters who have built their fighting record while fighting in a ruleset that allows for a blend of both throws/takedowns and striking?
To be honest, thats because your definition of kung fu is probably something similar to the movies.
MartialArts4Ever 1 year ago
@Sinclair, ppl strike the similar way when you put on gloves. Well slight difference, such as MT and Sanda don't use upper cut as effectively as boxing. But basic jab straight etc are the same. Sanda takedown is from Chinese Shuaijiao. Great thing about Sanda is that you learn how to use strike/kick/takedown in one combo. Serious martial artists will know how difficult a combo is. Btw, there are hundreds of kungfu style. So you can't really say "it doesn't look like kungfu". Which kungfu?
Ultra1980 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 u only mentioned drunken style and i duno wat against muay tai
WHY DONT U TRY WING CHUN AND JKD AGAINST MUAYTHAI AND SEE HOW THAT GOES
theameralnasser 1 year ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 are u stupid or dont know that wrestling and judo and many martial arts are copy from kung fu styles...
thenoorotic 11 months ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 Sanda is not Kung fu at all! It's national chinese kick boxing.
ciganodeouro 11 months ago
@SinclairCeltics1990 what the hell would you expect them to do in a ring??flying eagle and drunken tiger moves?this is sport kung fu for fuck sake.in a ring you cannot hop around like jackie chan.
and why do u think sanda is inferior just because it mixes mt and wrestling techniques?why would it be better do to these techniques on separate trainings??think about it....
Krisznyo 11 months ago
shaolin kungfu mothafuck3rs :]
kkftw23 2 years ago
Sanda is number 1
jurgo87 2 years ago
MUAY THAI #1
BIGOGEE 2 years ago 5
Always lolz Muay Thai is #1 :P
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
wtf Cung Le is best representation for sanshou, his striking is so much better, not to mention this liu hailong cant do scissor kick takedowns or souplexes in real battle!!!!
shuriken86 2 years ago
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Talking about restrictions?
Sanda in the ring is the most cripled
style of Chinese martial art forms.
In the real battle, not only elbow, knees any is allowed, there are also the techniques of attacking the most fragile parts of human body, one hit drop dead,
whose disadvantage?
asmx418 2 years ago
What about Shuai Jiao?
87mma 2 years ago
What about Cung Le?
SejongDojang 2 years ago 2
true
djsimo149 2 years ago
this is sanda rule...
mt k1 boxing kickboxing rule sanda = suck
zelot07 2 years ago
lui hailong is the best sanda fighter
mateossj8 2 years ago 2
sanda is very open fight so u can knock with elbow knee or punch if they fight on mt rule only bcause kung fu have all weakness they get confuse if they do mt rule its like pro mt fight with bginner
thatsanai 2 years ago