I lived thru one Depression, but at the same time was the Dirty 30s. Wall Street cause the Stock Market crash then and should have burnt to the ground. Wall Street is trying to crash again. As for another Stock Market crash, I see one on the way.
@ATSF1927 So wise. The 29 crash happened because everyone was so very ignorant about how economics work, paper corporations with nothing behind them and everyone bought in. Today's market is much more complex than that and people smarter. But the banks are the culprits this time, not any dude with a typewriter printing out paper to sell. No market means no trade - period. You can enjoy the stone age, feudal society again, and grow turnups in the mud. Attitude means a lot.
@deaddoc How would you know, you weren't thought of yet. I love it when people make up works about something they only know about through school books when half of them are incorrect or made up stories. I have lived through it and the next I will survive, but you will sink, you have no idea what it was like then.
@ATSF1927 Everyone I know who lived through it, and that includes my parents and relatives have a different take on it. But if you did live through it, you won't be around long anyway. You are so full of spite that it makes me wonder why someone hasn't helped you out already.
Ha, no one can know anything about your so special time that no one has any ideas but YOU.
@ATSF1927 AND if you lived through the Great Depression and are alive NOW that means that you were a CHILD and someone else was taking care of you! You lived because others gave and suffered. What a punk!
@outbackeddie The popularity of the Pompadour hair style for men made hats a bad fashion accessory by the late 40s. But you're right, it's good sense to keep a hat on your head. But folks back then didn't have all the terrible fast food corps pushing garbage at them back then.
So sad and tragic all the fine genetic material of Western lost due to contrived Wars against our interest from 1914 through 1945 give us these days we are living now.
I remember the hard times, but it didn't seem that bad. Mom and Dad loved us and many a times went with out so that we would have enough to eat. The clothes I wore had been worn by someone else. I remember a kid at school saying to me in front of other's that I was wearing his old shoe's. He may not have known how much that hurt, but I told him they fit fine, thank you. Those were hard times, but I have many a fond memory from those years. God was No.1 and Jesus was our savior.
Can you imagine a deep depression now, I don’t mean the recession we are in currently or the economic downturn we had a little while back. I’m taking full blown depression like in the 30’s. There will be no selling apples on the corner or bread lines this time, or 200 men lined up orderly looking for work. It will be chaos I believe, just look what happens in you own neighborhood when there is a bad snow storm or heavy rains. We are in big trouble.
@bi0dude420 - my entire point was exactly that!!!......i was trying to say that these people went through shit with out having the crap we have today......read it again with a different point of view.....they didnt need what we have including youpube.....so please...next time you think about calling some one a fool you may want to ask them what it is they are talking about....you got me completely wrong.....any way have a nice day.
The leader's of this country have let way to many people in that don't share the American dream and would like to see this country fall. These people number in the tens of millions. In the near future it will seem like things are getting better, but we are in the beginning of very hard times. A civil war is already here and most turn a blind eye to it. When the money runs out and those that depend on it get hungry enough, a lot of people are going to die.
yes indeed folks we are going through shit times but lets not forget that these people didnt have..., cell phones, mtv, cds, dvds, videos, computers, laptops, internet, facebook, myspace, atms, television, cable t.v, hellicopters, nuclear weapons, tapes, jet planes, camcorders, i.pods, punk rock, heavy metal, reggae, hip hop, disco, rock n roll......and so on.
If I were givven a choice Id picked Jazz over what teens today listen. It's almost unbelieveable. I agree with Ick300 how'd Justin Beiber even make it to the billboards?
this song is for the great depression. When lynching the would hang black people and sing this song so i dont like it cause they would call us strange fruit cause we were hanging. Its called history/
The criminal class is larger today than before. Look at the crime stats, that should change your mind about how violent people are today vs. then. If it does not phase you, nobody can help you.
It is a shame that so many people, even historians and some economists, buy into so many fallacies on The Great Depression. Both how we got into it and how we stayed in it until WWII.
The Great Depression, with wise economic policy, should never have happened. There is absolutely no justification for how we got into The Great Depression and how we stayed in it for over a decade.
Both Hoover and FDR were complete domestic disgraces. Thinking historians and economists should not vindicate them.
That is right. We got into The Great Depression because of the extremely inept actions taken by The Federal Reserve from 1929-1933 and protectionist tariffs (too "save jobs"......).
We stayed in The Great Depression because of The New Deal. It was a major political success, but a complete economic failure.
Wrong. People didn't judge FDR based on economic statistics because voters aren't rational like that. They judged him off his charisma, off how he made them feel. He was a complete failure. Both FDR and Hoover deserve to be in the list of 10 worst presidents of history.
Historians, journalists, and political scientists tend to judge history off its popular sentiments. Economists judge it off the facts.
There are so many fallacies of The Great Depression, it is sickening.
what did FDR do wrong? he created jobs, provided welfare systems and unemployment checks to get people into homes again not starving, we got productive again, we got into world war 2, economy flourished.
His economic policies did not create jobs, they only gave the illusion that they created jobs. The government cannot create jobs because in order to do that they need to divert resources from the (more efficient) private sector.
Keynesian economics (what we are trying right now) has never worked because it diverts resources from the private sector. Government needs to borrow to spend so that raises interest rates and that in turn raises prices which in the aggregate, decrease consumer spending.
So, social security & unemployment insurance are fallacious and sickening; To a man with no heart and no brain perhaps! Uunobjectionable measures to stave off the poverishment of old age and joblessness. In fact, WW II is a wonderful example of Keynesian economics writ large. Keynes reigned supreme throughout the prosperous '50's and '60's wherein there were both widespread prosperity and relative equality of income.
By the way, grammatically speaking,: do you "judge a person off" ? No.
Every government job today costs approximately two private sector jobs. During the depression the ratio was slightly better. Anyone who understands economics and tax structure understands that government does not create jobs...they appropriate private sector jobs in order to increase dependency on government. Simple math...and irrefutable
Yes young Heeey...but they have to pay their salaries from some pool of money. That pool is produced by taking money from those who would buy products, thus creating jobs, or from the companies which could expand, thus creating jobs.
It's actually very simple math. If the gov't pays someone 50 grand...they must first take about 80 grand from someone else...the dollar difference is the result of "bureaucratic friction." You'll learn about that if you take Econ in college. Gov't REDUCES jobs.
not so, where there is inadequate demand (and only then) the government by spending creates some demand. Milton Friedman agreed with this in his Monetary History of the USA . He adds correctly that if demand is adequate govt spending leads to stagflation.
where are your sources for this. The developed countries with the largest public sector (Germany, the Netherlands, Belguim, Holland) are those least affected by the GFC.
@Heeey333 He means that it galvanized the nation and created a lot of support for Roosevelt, but did not actually help the economy in any meaningful way.
@Americaisgreat123 No, it got into it because of corporate corruption and the Wall Street criminality/naivity that a publically traded corporation could exist only on paper and print endless shares. I read your comments here and it is plain that you are the ignorant one.
@deaddoc So corporations weren't corrupt before the depression during all those years from the founding until then when people went from the grinding poverty of the farm to the unimaginable wealth of the 20th century?
@Americaisgreat123 Looks like you're trying to pick a fight. What about my comment says that? I wrote, if you take the time to comprehend what you read, that it led up the Depression and caused it, not happening during it. My great, great grandfather was born in 1830, was a farmer on the St. Lawrence Rive in upper NY and prospered, living to 84. Farming was 90% of American product in 1900, and still a majority up to WW2. Failures went to work in the dreaded factories that truly enslaved.
@deaddoc So why did people leave the farm to go to the factory then? Where they too stupid too know their own good and voluntary became enslaved? And stayed that way instead of going back to the glorious farm?
@Americaisgreat123 You obviously don't know much American history, especi8ally economic history. I bet you can tell me about very battle of the CW, but none of the economic conditions before or after it. Stuff happens. One such item was several very bad winters int he early 19th c due to a volcanic eruption halfway around the world. People whose farms failed often ended up in factories, but immigration was used as well. You're not even smart enough to choose a simple word a sentence.
@deaddoc - All your assumptions about me are entirely wrong. You clearly are more interested in placing yourself above me rather than debating or learning with me. This is why I so seldom ever waste my time with video comments. So whatever. Have a nice life.
P.S. - If my grammar or composition irritates you, I apologize. I'm not at the top of my game at 5am.
@Americaisgreat123 Oh I'm so wrong. Why are you obsessively posting and replying at 5:00am? How can you be claiming to be seeking to learn with anyone when you are so sarcastic about farmers and farms, and the history of economics in America? I don't have to place myself above you, you shot from below. Anyone with any amount of education in the subject knows more than you exposed on your posts. You shouldn't argue about things you don't know about. Unless all you want to do is argue.
@Americaisgreat123 Weather, tech improvements, etc., made farms more efficient, but the Great Depression ended the sharecropping system used since Reconstruction. International trade increased factories, as well as WW2. Now they've gone. Farmers are aging, av 58 yo and growing with little prospect for replacement. You'll be eating your shoes in a few years, sonny. better learn how to grow something, besides your ego.
Violent death almost always ment that the people were criminals and were suffering retribution. Hence the lack of compassion for the deaths. Take those same poor people without food today and they will not knock on your door and beg for a task to earn a sandwich. They will knock down your door, slit your throat and take any damn thing thay want. This told to me by a very smart 94 year old man who lived through the deprression. I believe it.
We are a much more violent, dysfunctional, drug ridden society now than we were in the 30's. This Second Depression will not be as musically oriented.
It's sad to say, but you are right. I wonder who will make a musically oriented video 70 or 80 years from now. I'm sure it will make the 30's look like a walk in the park.
@looperdude2009 I agree. Most Americans were white called one another "brother" and "sister." Blacks were not attacked, and they did not attack. Only the rich attacked. When this happens again, and it will, maybe sooner than we think, it will be a real mess.
@soccom8341576 When was the US ever in Soviet Russian totalitarianism? But the wrongs done by capitalism using causes an equal and opposite reaction in the public and so the correction this time could be a great loss of corporate rule. But I don't think that this would be so bad, and I also don't think that we could only do it nationally, or we would only make it easier for foreign nations to exploit their own. I am not for one world rule, but some laws should be international
@looperdude2009 Becuase Opium didn't exist in the 1930's nor did bar's for them, Violent Nazi's didn't exist and social problems of poor family's didn't exist what with health and food shortages. You're right such a better time.
Nice collection of photographs. We are in the fog of a sucker rally with what they tell us is the economy, i.e. wall street. A few too many people were starting to wake up to the illusion they sold us long ago. The best thing you can do now is stop participating in the game and learn self sustainable skills for yourselves and families.
Thanks, Sottovoce - is your screen name Italian for "soft voice"? I wondered if you sing.
The timing of your post makes it seem like you were prescient. Good assemblage of photos. I especially appreciate the warning to vagrants on hard labor on a (chain) gang - Bush's Secretary of the Interior had been advocating the resumption of chain gangs - happily she's out of the picture now. I don't think many are aware of it, but prison labor was/is slave labor yielding big corporate profits.
Sadly we are witnessing another chapter of Revelation's prophecy.....The next 10 years will be a dark age....If the anti-christ isn't here on earth right now, he's certainly given notice of his upcoming arrival....
Has anyone noticed that there are no indictments, no congressional investigations, no special prosecutors and no one going to jail.....Madoff is having his shrimp cocktail and cracked crab for lunch as we speak.....
I have noticed but nobody else seems to care. They think everything will be alright but i believe this is the beginning of the end with another depression to follow in the next 10 years
Hopefully we are avoiding all this again with our governments incredible spending spree. But if it doesn't work, we are sunk, as the money at some point will all be gone and Uncle Sam may need to devaluate the dollar. That would be a real eye-opener. Suppose one day the Government lopped 25% off the value of everything, including your retirement savings?
We need to pray we never see another depression.People are different now most without the abilities to take care of themseleves.Many will die it will hell on earth.
This is one part of history that we all wish would not repeat...but, the way everything is going, it looks like it will be a while before things get better. Wow...this is sad. I recall my Great-grandmother sharing her stories of ration food and so forth...
And here it is two months later... 800 point drop in the DOW in 3 days. Shall we try for 1000 in 4?
If you can spare a dime, please make it REAL MONEY: '64 and before 90% purity (silver) - not this counterfeit play money that feels like it came off a board game.
I lived thru one Depression, but at the same time was the Dirty 30s. Wall Street cause the Stock Market crash then and should have burnt to the ground. Wall Street is trying to crash again. As for another Stock Market crash, I see one on the way.
ATSF1927 5 months ago
@ATSF1927 So wise. The 29 crash happened because everyone was so very ignorant about how economics work, paper corporations with nothing behind them and everyone bought in. Today's market is much more complex than that and people smarter. But the banks are the culprits this time, not any dude with a typewriter printing out paper to sell. No market means no trade - period. You can enjoy the stone age, feudal society again, and grow turnups in the mud. Attitude means a lot.
deaddoc 2 months ago
@deaddoc How would you know, you weren't thought of yet. I love it when people make up works about something they only know about through school books when half of them are incorrect or made up stories. I have lived through it and the next I will survive, but you will sink, you have no idea what it was like then.
ATSF1927 2 months ago
@ATSF1927 Everyone I know who lived through it, and that includes my parents and relatives have a different take on it. But if you did live through it, you won't be around long anyway. You are so full of spite that it makes me wonder why someone hasn't helped you out already.
Ha, no one can know anything about your so special time that no one has any ideas but YOU.
deaddoc 2 months ago
Respond to this video... Funny how I happen to know, and more than you, too. I'd like to see you eating your pride this time around.
deaddoc 2 months ago
@ATSF1927 AND if you lived through the Great Depression and are alive NOW that means that you were a CHILD and someone else was taking care of you! You lived because others gave and suffered. What a punk!
deaddoc 2 months ago
I like all the hats and the fact there are almost no fat people. Maybe America needs another great depression so we can have hats and no fat people.
outbackeddie 7 months ago 6
@outbackeddie LOL LOL LOL.
shiekaa 7 months ago
@outbackeddie LOL LOL LOL LOL
castoresnegros 6 months ago
@outbackeddie The popularity of the Pompadour hair style for men made hats a bad fashion accessory by the late 40s. But you're right, it's good sense to keep a hat on your head. But folks back then didn't have all the terrible fast food corps pushing garbage at them back then.
deaddoc 2 months ago
Bing Crosby's voice is magnificent, the pictures are are heartbreaking.
Mom1910 9 months ago 4
Great pairing, tho I wish the photo's didn't cycle so quickly.
USDeb 9 months ago
So sad and tragic all the fine genetic material of Western lost due to contrived Wars against our interest from 1914 through 1945 give us these days we are living now.
Preface Culture Of Critique
Nationsnotregimes 9 months ago
hey, guys. the recession is over. nuts 4 nuts are back to one dollar. ( they were $1.25)
;)
never000100 10 months ago
Phew, I wonder how my grandpa survived this...
riverapr861 10 months ago
I remember the hard times, but it didn't seem that bad. Mom and Dad loved us and many a times went with out so that we would have enough to eat. The clothes I wore had been worn by someone else. I remember a kid at school saying to me in front of other's that I was wearing his old shoe's. He may not have known how much that hurt, but I told him they fit fine, thank you. Those were hard times, but I have many a fond memory from those years. God was No.1 and Jesus was our savior.
Klaaaan1 10 months ago
Can you imagine a deep depression now, I don’t mean the recession we are in currently or the economic downturn we had a little while back. I’m taking full blown depression like in the 30’s. There will be no selling apples on the corner or bread lines this time, or 200 men lined up orderly looking for work. It will be chaos I believe, just look what happens in you own neighborhood when there is a bad snow storm or heavy rains. We are in big trouble.
chrisnpd 10 months ago 10
your transitions are much too quick.
biteitoff 11 months ago
@bi0dude420 - my entire point was exactly that!!!......i was trying to say that these people went through shit with out having the crap we have today......read it again with a different point of view.....they didnt need what we have including youpube.....so please...next time you think about calling some one a fool you may want to ask them what it is they are talking about....you got me completely wrong.....any way have a nice day.
MrBillybeetroot 1 year ago
The Crosby brothers were always the champions of the jazz era, and they still are.
george77772moons 1 year ago
Locked, cocked, and ready to rock.
IrishLincoln 1 year ago
The leader's of this country have let way to many people in that don't share the American dream and would like to see this country fall. These people number in the tens of millions. In the near future it will seem like things are getting better, but we are in the beginning of very hard times. A civil war is already here and most turn a blind eye to it. When the money runs out and those that depend on it get hungry enough, a lot of people are going to die.
Klaaaan1 1 year ago
Hard times is coming on the horzon. Just a matter of time. Hope America is prepared.
SuperLittleman101 1 year ago
@SuperLittleman101 let's hope America is finally confronted with her own raped financial system, or there wouldn't be a lesson learnt
JumpyAssasin 1 year ago
yes indeed folks we are going through shit times but lets not forget that these people didnt have..., cell phones, mtv, cds, dvds, videos, computers, laptops, internet, facebook, myspace, atms, television, cable t.v, hellicopters, nuclear weapons, tapes, jet planes, camcorders, i.pods, punk rock, heavy metal, reggae, hip hop, disco, rock n roll......and so on.
MrBillybeetroot 1 year ago
@MrBillybeetroot having all that crap doesn't make you life happier. you're a fool to think so
bi0dude42O 1 year ago
@MrBillybeetroot Let's not forget the materialistic view on the world has not made anyone happy yet
JumpyAssasin 1 year ago
If I were givven a choice Id picked Jazz over what teens today listen. It's almost unbelieveable. I agree with Ick300 how'd Justin Beiber even make it to the billboards?
TwilightPrincess841 1 year ago 2
we are one bailout away from depression 2.0
MrSocrates513 1 year ago
this is capitalism...
arklid 1 year ago
thanks bing :)
I wonder if half the comments on this video, would have been posted in the 30's
back from brazil - there is poverty - but not the poverty of spirit
peter4health 1 year ago
Don't forget the memory of Yip Harburg, who wrote this immortal song.
MsGeek703 1 year ago
Watch my video
watch?v=j7I_eFoIk64
It's about earth shift. Earth shift: One huge continent became 2 continents, then 5 (or 6) and then?
fridaysabtu 1 year ago
Where would we be without Democrates? Excuse the spelling,I went to a gov. school and you can call me Al.
fluffydanny 2 years ago
my sis said that
mrprotector44 2 years ago
@mrprotector44 wha-?! i dont want to be unkind to you, because you must be a lil kid, but are you quite sure your sister wasn't talking crap?
and are you sure it would be this song those kind of people would lynch anyone to? i mean does it sound like it?
and i think strange fruit is the very last thing the kkk or whatever would say cause poetry really aint their thing.
best thing you can do is keep the interest in history but just stop learning if from your sister cause she's an idiot.
dean0waterz 1 year ago
this song is for the great depression. When lynching the would hang black people and sing this song so i dont like it cause they would call us strange fruit cause we were hanging. Its called history/
mrprotector44 2 years ago
I LOVE this song! Surprised old Bing didn't get hurled up in front of Mcarthy for this little piece of socialist realism.
bettykitten2233 2 years ago
@bettykitten2233 They didn't because Bing was a registered Republican.
NHSActor 1 year ago
They mostly have suits on!!! guess that was like jeans and a t shirt is to us today???
TheKerryzzz 2 years ago 3
I'm wearing a diaper.
barbarianopinions 2 years ago
we r fukt
BigBishop1 2 years ago 2
Amazing song. Amazing, amazing, amazing.
ROEDERBABY 2 years ago
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This could be a republican campaign ad!!!
verminone 2 years ago
verinone u are the idiot republican and thank you for supporting bush jr and crashed economy millions jobless thanks to idiots like you
James1971CA 2 years ago 2
The Republicans fuck the economy!!!!!!!!!
AldCastillo 2 years ago
and politics fuck humanity
ohnoemynameistaken 2 years ago
It is both side that fucked the economy - We the people gave them the power. We need to stand up and inform our neighbors
reef37 2 years ago
Good video. The song, however, is "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime."
rackfocus 2 years ago 4
Turn off the gangster movies.
The criminal class is larger today than before. Look at the crime stats, that should change your mind about how violent people are today vs. then. If it does not phase you, nobody can help you.
pshinspections 2 years ago
who sing ?
hphihchkhuhp 2 years ago
It is a shame that so many people, even historians and some economists, buy into so many fallacies on The Great Depression. Both how we got into it and how we stayed in it until WWII.
The Great Depression, with wise economic policy, should never have happened. There is absolutely no justification for how we got into The Great Depression and how we stayed in it for over a decade.
Both Hoover and FDR were complete domestic disgraces. Thinking historians and economists should not vindicate them.
Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
The problem in the 30s, as now, govt got in the way of capitalism. If they just kept their hands out, we wouldnt be facing another depression.
Hope you're out of debt and stocked up for years of food. You're gonna need it. Forget about driving, gas will hit $10 a gallon.
pshinspections 2 years ago
That is right. We got into The Great Depression because of the extremely inept actions taken by The Federal Reserve from 1929-1933 and protectionist tariffs (too "save jobs"......).
We stayed in The Great Depression because of The New Deal. It was a major political success, but a complete economic failure.
Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
Isn't it ironic that one of the only tools to save this country's economic health is protectionism, the very thing that messed us up in the 30s...
Without a re-industrialization of America, we can just kiss it goodbye. Watch my video on that issue.
pshinspections 2 years ago
it wouldn't be a political success if it was an economic failure, what are you talking about???
Heeey333 2 years ago
Wrong. People didn't judge FDR based on economic statistics because voters aren't rational like that. They judged him off his charisma, off how he made them feel. He was a complete failure. Both FDR and Hoover deserve to be in the list of 10 worst presidents of history.
Historians, journalists, and political scientists tend to judge history off its popular sentiments. Economists judge it off the facts.
There are so many fallacies of The Great Depression, it is sickening.
Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
what did FDR do wrong? he created jobs, provided welfare systems and unemployment checks to get people into homes again not starving, we got productive again, we got into world war 2, economy flourished.
Heeey333 2 years ago 3
His economic policies did not create jobs, they only gave the illusion that they created jobs. The government cannot create jobs because in order to do that they need to divert resources from the (more efficient) private sector.
Keynesian economics (what we are trying right now) has never worked because it diverts resources from the private sector. Government needs to borrow to spend so that raises interest rates and that in turn raises prices which in the aggregate, decrease consumer spending.
Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
So, social security & unemployment insurance are fallacious and sickening; To a man with no heart and no brain perhaps! Uunobjectionable measures to stave off the poverishment of old age and joblessness. In fact, WW II is a wonderful example of Keynesian economics writ large. Keynes reigned supreme throughout the prosperous '50's and '60's wherein there were both widespread prosperity and relative equality of income.
By the way, grammatically speaking,: do you "judge a person off" ? No.
princeandrey 2 years ago
Every government job today costs approximately two private sector jobs. During the depression the ratio was slightly better. Anyone who understands economics and tax structure understands that government does not create jobs...they appropriate private sector jobs in order to increase dependency on government. Simple math...and irrefutable
barbarianopinion 2 years ago
park rangers, social work agencies, etc. all equal increase job options by government.
Heeey333 2 years ago
Yes young Heeey...but they have to pay their salaries from some pool of money. That pool is produced by taking money from those who would buy products, thus creating jobs, or from the companies which could expand, thus creating jobs.
It's actually very simple math. If the gov't pays someone 50 grand...they must first take about 80 grand from someone else...the dollar difference is the result of "bureaucratic friction." You'll learn about that if you take Econ in college. Gov't REDUCES jobs.
barbarianopinion 2 years ago
the usa wasn't always in debt, we used to have a curplus that came from standard country profits (taxes, selling weapons, etc.).
Heeey333 2 years ago
not so, where there is inadequate demand (and only then) the government by spending creates some demand. Milton Friedman agreed with this in his Monetary History of the USA . He adds correctly that if demand is adequate govt spending leads to stagflation.
backnumber1662 2 years ago
where are your sources for this. The developed countries with the largest public sector (Germany, the Netherlands, Belguim, Holland) are those least affected by the GFC.
backnumber1662 2 years ago
@Heeey333 The economy did not flourish because of FDR's programs. It flourished because we entered into an massive industrial build up during WWII.
Prometheus666333 1 year ago 8
That's exactly what I said, you come across as stupid.
Heeey333 1 year ago
@Heeey333 He means that it galvanized the nation and created a lot of support for Roosevelt, but did not actually help the economy in any meaningful way.
Prometheus666333 1 year ago
@Americaisgreat123 No, it got into it because of corporate corruption and the Wall Street criminality/naivity that a publically traded corporation could exist only on paper and print endless shares. I read your comments here and it is plain that you are the ignorant one.
deaddoc 6 months ago
@deaddoc So corporations weren't corrupt before the depression during all those years from the founding until then when people went from the grinding poverty of the farm to the unimaginable wealth of the 20th century?
Americaisgreat123 2 months ago
@Americaisgreat123 Looks like you're trying to pick a fight. What about my comment says that? I wrote, if you take the time to comprehend what you read, that it led up the Depression and caused it, not happening during it. My great, great grandfather was born in 1830, was a farmer on the St. Lawrence Rive in upper NY and prospered, living to 84. Farming was 90% of American product in 1900, and still a majority up to WW2. Failures went to work in the dreaded factories that truly enslaved.
deaddoc 2 months ago
@deaddoc So why did people leave the farm to go to the factory then? Where they too stupid too know their own good and voluntary became enslaved? And stayed that way instead of going back to the glorious farm?
Americaisgreat123 2 months ago
@Americaisgreat123 You obviously don't know much American history, especi8ally economic history. I bet you can tell me about very battle of the CW, but none of the economic conditions before or after it. Stuff happens. One such item was several very bad winters int he early 19th c due to a volcanic eruption halfway around the world. People whose farms failed often ended up in factories, but immigration was used as well. You're not even smart enough to choose a simple word a sentence.
deaddoc 2 months ago
@deaddoc - All your assumptions about me are entirely wrong. You clearly are more interested in placing yourself above me rather than debating or learning with me. This is why I so seldom ever waste my time with video comments. So whatever. Have a nice life.
P.S. - If my grammar or composition irritates you, I apologize. I'm not at the top of my game at 5am.
Americaisgreat123 2 months ago
@Americaisgreat123 Oh I'm so wrong. Why are you obsessively posting and replying at 5:00am? How can you be claiming to be seeking to learn with anyone when you are so sarcastic about farmers and farms, and the history of economics in America? I don't have to place myself above you, you shot from below. Anyone with any amount of education in the subject knows more than you exposed on your posts. You shouldn't argue about things you don't know about. Unless all you want to do is argue.
deaddoc 2 months ago
@Americaisgreat123 Weather, tech improvements, etc., made farms more efficient, but the Great Depression ended the sharecropping system used since Reconstruction. International trade increased factories, as well as WW2. Now they've gone. Farmers are aging, av 58 yo and growing with little prospect for replacement. You'll be eating your shoes in a few years, sonny. better learn how to grow something, besides your ego.
deaddoc 2 months ago
Violent death almost always ment that the people were criminals and were suffering retribution. Hence the lack of compassion for the deaths. Take those same poor people without food today and they will not knock on your door and beg for a task to earn a sandwich. They will knock down your door, slit your throat and take any damn thing thay want. This told to me by a very smart 94 year old man who lived through the deprression. I believe it.
frankielo1 2 years ago
We are in great recession. What will happen if hit great depression 2?
NauticalFILMS 2 years ago
What's the big deal here? I drive through Detroit everyday. What's changed?
MichiganMuzz 2 years ago 2
We are a much more violent, dysfunctional, drug ridden society now than we were in the 30's. This Second Depression will not be as musically oriented.
looperdude2009 2 years ago 46
No-It will be much more violent.
THAWK3 2 years ago 4
It's sad to say, but you are right. I wonder who will make a musically oriented video 70 or 80 years from now. I'm sure it will make the 30's look like a walk in the park.
love2groom 2 years ago 5
I'm thinking heavy metal will be more appropriate.
VireDragon 2 years ago 3
The crime rate was much higher in the 30's than it is now.
It was pretty much the same as the late 80's with the crack epidemic and gang warfare.
BillMcGee666 2 years ago 2
@looperdude2009
True dat.
Music industry is dead.
Hell just look at rolling stones music billboards.
How the fuck does
Justin Bieber
make the top 5?
ic300x 1 year ago 5
@looperdude2009 I agree. Most Americans were white called one another "brother" and "sister." Blacks were not attacked, and they did not attack. Only the rich attacked. When this happens again, and it will, maybe sooner than we think, it will be a real mess.
deaddoc 9 months ago
@deaddoc
geez, and this time it won't be just economical, but back to Soviet Russian totalitarianism on all levels.
soccom8341576 8 months ago
@soccom8341576 When was the US ever in Soviet Russian totalitarianism? But the wrongs done by capitalism using causes an equal and opposite reaction in the public and so the correction this time could be a great loss of corporate rule. But I don't think that this would be so bad, and I also don't think that we could only do it nationally, or we would only make it easier for foreign nations to exploit their own. I am not for one world rule, but some laws should be international
deaddoc 6 months ago
@looperdude2009 Becuase Opium didn't exist in the 1930's nor did bar's for them, Violent Nazi's didn't exist and social problems of poor family's didn't exist what with health and food shortages. You're right such a better time.
grenadesonfire 5 months ago
Nice collection of photographs. We are in the fog of a sucker rally with what they tell us is the economy, i.e. wall street. A few too many people were starting to wake up to the illusion they sold us long ago. The best thing you can do now is stop participating in the game and learn self sustainable skills for yourselves and families.
pdrcoach1 2 years ago 4
It would seem we have learned nothing from our own history...can Softer, kinder, americans survive, this time?
jettbugg 2 years ago 2
A very poignant story my friends.
Looks as if history is repeating itself.
Thank you for the film
marktomarketguy 2 years ago 2
Thanks, Sottovoce - is your screen name Italian for "soft voice"? I wondered if you sing.
The timing of your post makes it seem like you were prescient. Good assemblage of photos. I especially appreciate the warning to vagrants on hard labor on a (chain) gang - Bush's Secretary of the Interior had been advocating the resumption of chain gangs - happily she's out of the picture now. I don't think many are aware of it, but prison labor was/is slave labor yielding big corporate profits.
Cyallaire 2 years ago
Sadly we are witnessing another chapter of Revelation's prophecy.....The next 10 years will be a dark age....If the anti-christ isn't here on earth right now, he's certainly given notice of his upcoming arrival....
Has anyone noticed that there are no indictments, no congressional investigations, no special prosecutors and no one going to jail.....Madoff is having his shrimp cocktail and cracked crab for lunch as we speak.....
Spitzerman 2 years ago
I have noticed but nobody else seems to care. They think everything will be alright but i believe this is the beginning of the end with another depression to follow in the next 10 years
footfree01 2 years ago 18
@footfree01
Agreed.
soccom8341576 8 months ago
@footfree01 I agree. And, no political parties care.
ftenzer 7 months ago
Abolish the criminal and privately owned Federal Reserve Banking Corporation... No more Depressions or debt ever.
finefilth 2 years ago 5
soul crushing
firej666 3 years ago
You should've put a question mark behind "The End".
Saturn357 3 years ago
I'm bit scared :(
fajarpri 3 years ago
Hopefully we are avoiding all this again with our governments incredible spending spree. But if it doesn't work, we are sunk, as the money at some point will all be gone and Uncle Sam may need to devaluate the dollar. That would be a real eye-opener. Suppose one day the Government lopped 25% off the value of everything, including your retirement savings?
bjdon99 3 years ago
i swear you think we learn from our mistakes
nirob 3 years ago
We need to pray we never see another depression.People are different now most without the abilities to take care of themseleves.Many will die it will hell on earth.
dave4708 3 years ago
This is one part of history that we all wish would not repeat...but, the way everything is going, it looks like it will be a while before things get better. Wow...this is sad. I recall my Great-grandmother sharing her stories of ration food and so forth...
redfootwalking 3 years ago 2
sottovoce40, thank you for the great photos.
Right you are, MySerpentine...
And here it is two months later... 800 point drop in the DOW in 3 days. Shall we try for 1000 in 4?
If you can spare a dime, please make it REAL MONEY: '64 and before 90% purity (silver) - not this counterfeit play money that feels like it came off a board game.
xearther 3 years ago
Won't be long now . . .
MySerpentine 3 years ago