it's clearly an animal that got DNA graphs from other species..was too difficult to handle or simply got away..there is a scientist in that neighborhood that was responsible for it..it got away and due to multiple genetic codes..it actually did not know how to swim..it later drowned...what's funny is that people will say "where is your proof..we need evidence " well..my proof is right there..dead..laying in the sand..in plain view..and still won't question authenticity..because we might be wrong
Go to Project Avalon and see interviews with dozens of scientists, military operatives, doctors, soldiers, lab workers, engineers, biologists, chemists, and other shadow military industrial technocrats who worked on these black projects. Study bio eugenics, cross-species hybridization, genome engineering, and human bioengineering technology. Monsanto & Syngenta cross engineer plant life genetics, and the shadow governments cross mutate human, alien, and animal species.
it's an interdimensional being from the ruptures in subspace created in the nearby camp hero underground base. montauk monster....montauk project....they're both related.
To ALL of the youtube members out there!! There is creatures that the GOVERNMENT dont want you to know about!! These are NOT biochemical OR government mixings THEY ARE creatures that have evolved and are scarce BUT still by Government standards can NOT be allowed to be known to the public!
As for Michael Jackson that is DEFINATELY ALIVE do your homework and type into youtube: Michael jackson is alive and go through the various youtube videos and you will then know the TRUTH!!
Word out, the government (scientist)? Was trying experiments on animals. Just seeing how a animal would react to it. Doesnt look like it reacted to good. But iv'e also heard jesse ventura's new conspiracy theories, he believes the same thing. But he think's the government is gonna try the same experiments on us. (NWO, FEMA, MARTIAL LAW, POPULATION CONTROL). ETC. Oh well
my delusion of chow downs is not what one won ton says to another when confuscious walk through doorway backwards. Sky high chow down kinnish doe-eye pop pastrami pig out place , five tons of hand carved beef.... goodness, if i was president today, i would be reading off the teleprompter as a typist in the mirror. Pastrami and corned beef brisket as opposed to the gupta salt black pepper paprkika and coriander and it melts
weird genetics experiment gone wrong? Maybe. . . . . . I think it's a new species of something cause hey people, the bible doesn't explain everything and FOX NEWS is not to be trusted for their "journalistic integrity."
Harry Potter is an allegory for the events that brought about both World War 1 as well as World War 2. If you are too stupid to grasp this, fine, but it is actually a complex political and sociological argument for equality.
I thought it might be this extinct animal, just like the sea creature found in the Indian Ocean back in the 1930s that was said to have been extinct for 35 millions years. But this time only in the 10k - 100k year range. I thought it was either a male or a pouchless female of this Australian animal that somehow ended-up on a Long Island beach, at that is this: naturalworlds. org/thylacoleo
Except the teeth are wrong...and Idk about claws, or not.
Plum Island... Government research and development! 1/2 a mile off the beaches of long island. Lyme disease...contracted from deer ticks, at night you can watch the deer swim from plum island to the shores of CT and NY. This disease existed nowhere else untill recently.{No known cure} Gene splicing? Why not a full grown man engineered creature? If it's fake, where's the plastic pieces for all to view? If we can clone a sheep why can't we build a "better" one! Maybe this one got out of its cage
It is a dog corps!!! i saw this on tv!!!! people have been making dogs fight that they get deformed so it looks like it has a beak that is the dogs deformed nose!!! this is why its in the ocean dogs that lose the fight get thrown in the ocean!!!
They asked, "W. Wise, Director Living Marine Resources Institute," what he thought it was and this is what he told me:
"What I actually told the reporter was that I thought that a raccoon's front limbs are shorter than its rear limbs and that didn't seem to be the case for the animal in the photo. Digging a little deeper into raccoon anatomy, I find that the front and rear legs are approximately the same length ,,,"
Actually, it isn't a raccoon. The legs are too long to be a raccoon, although it looks like it might be related. In other words, it is a canid. To be more specific, it's a dog. A domesticated dog. Based on its hammer head shape, and it's burly physique, it's a pit bull. You can look it up on wikipedia.
When I dissected cats in college, I asked where the cats were from. They claimed they were strays from Mexico. That upset me enough, but, as I dissected them, I found many had been fixed. Stray cats are rarely fixed in Mexico. There are places that buy cats to sell for dissection, and people will get these cats to sell anyway they can. They act like people trying to get kittens after reading "Free kittens" in the newspapers, and they even sneak up and take your pets.
It is sad now that the thing appears ugly, but we as humans are not so pretty after we die either. At one time this thing would have been considered cute when it was still alive, not decaying, and still covered in fur..
I have dissected a lot of animals, but when I had to dissect a cat, looking at the dead cat cut up made me so upset I had to leave the room. I did not come back.
People please read my next comments on cats above.
If you do not grasp the fact that the Montauk Monster is a raccoon, fine, but maybe you should care about the fact that you look like a silly git to those educated enough to know,
I had a shit this morning that looked just like that thing. It is a possibility that this creature could be a raccoon, or maybe a fox, lets see its box.
theres no perspective on size in that photo, and the *beak* is actually a side view of the canine teeth. its just the perspective. and the teeth on the top jaw probably fell out while it was decomposing.
theres no physical feature of unknown creatures at all so it is fake if its real why dont they show people instead of it juss being somthing that people never get to see at all except on the internet this is BS
I really suspect that this is a "viral video" put forth by some marketing group preparing the public for a new television show; there's a new reality "monster" show that is coming out soon, coincidentally. Notice that we are also hearing about a bigfoot corpse being discovered and a new video of the supposed chupabara is out -- all being touted at the same time? Doesn't anyone else suspect media manipulation? Does anyone else hate media manipulation like I do?
Its probably an undiscovered deep sea creature, there is so many creatures in the ocean that have not even been discovered yet because its so enormous, and not to mention the fact that there are so many areas deep down in the bottom of the ocean that no man has ever even been to. This species may have been around for thousands of years, it almost looks like a dinosaur species...thats just my opinion though. or maybe its a deformed alien.
Instead of BSing about what it is, why doesn't someone do a DNA test? The media is complete BS. They need to do actual investigative journalism instead of laughing this kinda stuff off. Gets me so mad!
it's clearly an animal that got DNA graphs from other species..was too difficult to handle or simply got away..there is a scientist in that neighborhood that was responsible for it..it got away and due to multiple genetic codes..it actually did not know how to swim..it later drowned...what's funny is that people will say "where is your proof..we need evidence " well..my proof is right there..dead..laying in the sand..in plain view..and still won't question authenticity..because we might be wrong
etornel79 1 month ago
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altgeldrarities 2 months ago
What you got there is a super devil. It is most commonly seen riding motorcycles and drink Jack Daniels while listening to heavy metal.
BishopHatto 3 months ago
it's an interdimensional being from the ruptures in subspace created in the nearby camp hero underground base. montauk monster....montauk project....they're both related.
moistfusion 5 months ago
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Micheal30567 6 months ago
@yanipheonu couldn't agree with you more
xxxforensic 7 months ago
Im interested in this
JWCD710 8 months ago
not guna lie it looks like a dead water rat
mbd28redsox 9 months ago
I think the real mystery is how the hell these idiots became newscasters.
yanipheonu 9 months ago 5
@yanipheonu ...lol a real mystery right there !!
wachaushenzi 8 months ago
of course only one minute to discuss this but bieber probably gets a whole segment
moistfusion 9 months ago
Cryptozoology novel about two boys who find something strange on the beach one night see video book trailer
dltanner99 10 months ago
OH SWEET A TURTLE WITHOUT A SHELL!
rosskiddd 1 year ago 2
CAPTURE IT AS A POKEMON
wil123liam741 1 year ago
To ALL of the youtube members out there!! There is creatures that the GOVERNMENT dont want you to know about!! These are NOT biochemical OR government mixings THEY ARE creatures that have evolved and are scarce BUT still by Government standards can NOT be allowed to be known to the public!
As for Michael Jackson that is DEFINATELY ALIVE do your homework and type into youtube: Michael jackson is alive and go through the various youtube videos and you will then know the TRUTH!!
MRCAPTAINMARVEL 1 year ago
@MRCAPTAINMARVEL look up Building 257 its happing there
doglover2234 1 year ago
just off of long island is a place called plum island and it is biochemical warfare place is that the result
theamazingmumbo 1 year ago
OK...Firstly a Similar Creature has washed up (Just Now) At Coffs Harbour in AUSTRALIA!!
The Government have seized this creature (Dont belive the rubish of it washing back out to sea!) And have it under SECRET WRAPS!
The Government is ALWAYS INTERFERING in the things THAT they DONT WANT the PUBLIC to know about!
YES....Its TRUE as i know quite a few things that THEY DONT want EXPOSED!
By the way Michael jackson: IS NOT DEAD!
Do your THOUROUGH RESEARCH!
The truth is not far away!
MRCAPTAINMARVEL 1 year ago
what do you mean michael jackson isnt dead and how are u so sure
theamazingmumbo 1 year ago
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@MRCAPTAINMARVEL look up Building 257
doglover2234 1 year ago
Newscaster: 43% John C Reilly, 57% Russell Crowe.
xjames118 1 year ago
Word out, the government (scientist)? Was trying experiments on animals. Just seeing how a animal would react to it. Doesnt look like it reacted to good. But iv'e also heard jesse ventura's new conspiracy theories, he believes the same thing. But he think's the government is gonna try the same experiments on us. (NWO, FEMA, MARTIAL LAW, POPULATION CONTROL). ETC. Oh well
CcGamingPS3 1 year ago
its ben proven its a decomposed bulldog i mean look at the legs
suki603 1 year ago
my delusion of chow downs is not what one won ton says to another when confuscious walk through doorway backwards. Sky high chow down kinnish doe-eye pop pastrami pig out place , five tons of hand carved beef.... goodness, if i was president today, i would be reading off the teleprompter as a typist in the mirror. Pastrami and corned beef brisket as opposed to the gupta salt black pepper paprkika and coriander and it melts
ePhilosopher9 1 year ago
weird genetics experiment gone wrong? Maybe. . . . . . I think it's a new species of something cause hey people, the bible doesn't explain everything and FOX NEWS is not to be trusted for their "journalistic integrity."
BigBrotherThink1 1 year ago
has to be a wingless griffin i mean compare its face to a griffn. EXACT MATCH!!!!
dragonhunter6627 1 year ago
It's a featherless creature/animal
SarahRei304 1 year ago
ok um no way that thing is a racoon who the heck would think that sa racoon you crazys ;)
3BsAlaska 1 year ago
lol retard the ceolocanth wasn't just extinct 45 years ago it was millions of years.....retards on the news....
kalinda619 1 year ago
would people stop fighting over it it could be ANYTHING so stop fighting and freaking wait
(i swear sometimes people fight over the most rediculus things)
Yaminia1 1 year ago
it's a hairless racoon
luckystarfan287 1 year ago
its a phoenix thing without feathers or wings duh
Inferno144X 1 year ago
omg thats my big brother jordan. sunbathing at are last family vacation, now can yall stop talking about it because its really getting to him.
kris10mor 1 year ago
that thing has the face of yoda from star wars
elsleepyx3 2 years ago
this is a dead raccoon with knocked out teeth in the front its fur came off and was found dead...idiots...
SallyThePrincess103 2 years ago
this people are the only monsters xD
spainmig1 2 years ago
these people are idiots
CawFanMan 2 years ago
Harry Potter is an allegory for the events that brought about both World War 1 as well as World War 2. If you are too stupid to grasp this, fine, but it is actually a complex political and sociological argument for equality.
Lagomort 2 years ago
You called me an idiot, and implied I was a liar, and you never apologized, and I am the one pestering you?
You had the chance to step up to the plate and apologize for your asininity, and what do you do?
You're an effin' moron. Do the population at large a fav and do not breed.
Lagomort 2 years ago
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msKiana 2 years ago
Yes, I know you misread, and had to do so numerous times to keep calling me names like, "idiot."
Now, who was the actual idiot?
Lagomort 2 years ago
Show me where I called it a turtle..anywhere...
Lagomort 2 years ago
I never said modern turtles had teeth,,,
Lagomort 2 years ago
Since my training is in comparative vertebrate anatomy, I need not use sources like Wikipedia for such things.
Now why would you assume a turtle carcass would survive 220 million years. Seems a bit off, dontcha say?
Lagomort 2 years ago
Um, Turtles have not been known to have teeth since the Triassic about 220 million years ago,,
Lagomort 2 years ago
I think they proved for that to be a dog the breed is a boxer because of the cartlidge on the nose.
brencoracing09 2 years ago
i wish they tried to be more serious about it
Physalis925 2 years ago
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bumblebeefleefly 2 years ago
It isn't a freakin' turtle people..
get an education damn it!!
Lagomort 2 years ago
With plum island nearby, (aka. the island of dr. Moreau) anything could wash up on that shore.
eme456 2 years ago
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I thought it might be this extinct animal, just like the sea creature found in the Indian Ocean back in the 1930s that was said to have been extinct for 35 millions years. But this time only in the 10k - 100k year range. I thought it was either a male or a pouchless female of this Australian animal that somehow ended-up on a Long Island beach, at that is this: naturalworlds. org/thylacoleo
Except the teeth are wrong...and Idk about claws, or not.
response007 2 years ago
Perhaps an undiscovered off-shoot without the pouch, and different teeth.
response007 2 years ago
It looks like a turtle/tortoise without it's shell
Donlakyounomoah 2 years ago
nah! it looks like a deformed pig
cBksfree2rhyme 2 years ago
It looks like it has a beak.
Donlakyounomoah 2 years ago
a wingless griffin lol
svcreeper 2 years ago 16
It looks like a boar.....
eazydoseit 2 years ago
maybe there a secret island that doing stuff like experiments on animals and they Mady this so it escaped and washed off there .
deathtoll09 2 years ago
Plum Island... Government research and development! 1/2 a mile off the beaches of long island. Lyme disease...contracted from deer ticks, at night you can watch the deer swim from plum island to the shores of CT and NY. This disease existed nowhere else untill recently.{No known cure} Gene splicing? Why not a full grown man engineered creature? If it's fake, where's the plastic pieces for all to view? If we can clone a sheep why can't we build a "better" one! Maybe this one got out of its cage
chickeneggs4u 2 years ago
It's T.O.!
pdg90 2 years ago
these asshole need to shut the fuck up holy shit
punkbmx4200 2 years ago
seriously
laviah19 2 years ago
it is a prop... da... there is no such thing as a "monster"... and i saw on a website that some person confessed that it was theres... a prop
fluffychick38 2 years ago
r some of u fuking retarded? turtles dont have teeth retards
theboogyman123 2 years ago
its not a monster its just an animal :O
Keirosuke 3 years ago
Looks like a GORGONOPS, they were around on the Earth 255 - 250 million years ago!!!!
...."Cough"(Montauk Project)"Cough"....
NAMZR160 3 years ago
Im from long island,
and omg.. that thing is soo freakin freaky!!!
pepstar1Tv 3 years ago
turned out to be a seal
Maico1983 3 years ago
"turned out to be a seal "
Who the hell told you that? What crack-head could look at that and see seal?
Lagomort 3 years ago
It is a dog corps!!! i saw this on tv!!!! people have been making dogs fight that they get deformed so it looks like it has a beak that is the dogs deformed nose!!! this is why its in the ocean dogs that lose the fight get thrown in the ocean!!!
RoseBud1218 3 years ago
its ovisaly a horse or turttle w/o its shell
LuvPups4life 3 years ago
it looks kinda like a horse
LuvPups4life 3 years ago
im sorry but i dont understand all i know is that it looks like an ass
LuvPups4life 3 years ago
How is this a cat, dog, raccoon when it has a BEAK.
Kilo112205 3 years ago
"How is this a cat, dog, raccoon when it has a BEAK. "
For the billionth time. it does...not..have...a ...BEAK!!
Thank you...
Lagomort 3 years ago
The legs are not too long.
They asked, "W. Wise, Director Living Marine Resources Institute," what he thought it was and this is what he told me:
"What I actually told the reporter was that I thought that a raccoon's front limbs are shorter than its rear limbs and that didn't seem to be the case for the animal in the photo. Digging a little deeper into raccoon anatomy, I find that the front and rear legs are approximately the same length ,,,"
In other words,..he had made a mistake, OK?
Lagomort 3 years ago
Actually, it isn't a raccoon. The legs are too long to be a raccoon, although it looks like it might be related. In other words, it is a canid. To be more specific, it's a dog. A domesticated dog. Based on its hammer head shape, and it's burly physique, it's a pit bull. You can look it up on wikipedia.
Ironclawz 3 years ago
And please explain to me why you think the legs are too long?
By the way, it cannot be a pit bull. Physically impossible.
Lagomort 3 years ago
When I dissected cats in college, I asked where the cats were from. They claimed they were strays from Mexico. That upset me enough, but, as I dissected them, I found many had been fixed. Stray cats are rarely fixed in Mexico. There are places that buy cats to sell for dissection, and people will get these cats to sell anyway they can. They act like people trying to get kittens after reading "Free kittens" in the newspapers, and they even sneak up and take your pets.
Microchip your pets
Lagomort 3 years ago
geez ppl u can acttuly be nice bout this i mean "things" cant help it if there ugly and ppl dont no wat it is...but its uglyr than someones ass
LuvPups4life 3 years ago
It is sad now that the thing appears ugly, but we as humans are not so pretty after we die either. At one time this thing would have been considered cute when it was still alive, not decaying, and still covered in fur..
I have dissected a lot of animals, but when I had to dissect a cat, looking at the dead cat cut up made me so upset I had to leave the room. I did not come back.
People please read my next comments on cats above.
Lagomort 3 years ago
I had wondered what happened to Chelsea clintons twin!
GreenEyeBluey 3 years ago
IT'S A MONSTER!
oonikki 3 years ago
genetic defect or experiment?? either way its a turtle without its shell
lawtonboy731 3 years ago 3
Anyone saying this is a turtle should be arrested and sent to jail for pure stupidity..
Lagomort 3 years ago 2
if i need to be sent to jail for saying its a turtle you need to be my cellie for saying its a racoon you fucking lop.
lawtonboy731 3 years ago
If you do not grasp the fact that the Montauk Monster is a raccoon, fine, but maybe you should care about the fact that you look like a silly git to those educated enough to know,
Lagomort 3 years ago
@lawtonboy731 god damn people are so dumb turtles can live without there shell its part of there body
grizzlywtgdipper94 1 year ago
@lawtonboy731 no it is not a turtle, turtles have a compleatly diffrent skull build and neck build
DeatWereWolf 1 year ago
TERRIBLE FUCKEN JOKES!!!!!!!!!!
951IVAN 3 years ago
Youtube is more informative than the news.
virgildog1950 3 years ago 28
wat did dey do wit it
Dtwcougarkid21 3 years ago
olive juice
cubsareworst 3 years ago
stupid fuckin news casters making retarded jokes. Paris hilton and Baldwin brothers wow! CHeezy as fuck!
SkatesforJerseyDude 3 years ago
its not photo shoped. it was on the news.
swissyode 3 years ago
its a turtle born without a shell duh!!!!!!!!!
rubberducky7032 3 years ago
turtles dont have teeth
doggie37 3 years ago
idk
fivefamly 3 years ago
I think it's a taxidermy of a few different animals together.... and maybe a little photo shop action. =]
YourfriendHannnah 3 years ago
I had a shit this morning that looked just like that thing. It is a possibility that this creature could be a raccoon, or maybe a fox, lets see its box.
DrRealist 3 years ago
its made with photoshop
SphereAcidBurn 3 years ago
as long as dere aint no more of dose in the world im okay wit and dont care wat it is!!!
caro62896 3 years ago
you guys are gay
sciontc209 3 years ago
The Montauk Racoon = bloated from salt water and probably stinks like shit! lol.
vicodin75 3 years ago
lol how thefuck u think its a racoon? do racoons have beaks? and they dont get that big
betoloche80 3 years ago
I dunno, what else can it be? fucken ey man it cant be a fucken monster that shit is for the movies lol.
vicodin75 3 years ago
theres no perspective on size in that photo, and the *beak* is actually a side view of the canine teeth. its just the perspective. and the teeth on the top jaw probably fell out while it was decomposing.
jenniferinsanee 3 years ago
i hate fox news....
slayer0273 3 years ago 3
theres no physical feature of unknown creatures at all so it is fake if its real why dont they show people instead of it juss being somthing that people never get to see at all except on the internet this is BS
francois004 3 years ago
Is dat man actually holdin it at 1:17?????????
DancingStar59 3 years ago
Oh - and did anyone understand what fish she was talking about? Trying to google it. Her ennunciation sucks balls.
LoolaLyla 3 years ago
That looks like the gnarly duece I dropped last week. What a coincidence.
LoolaLyla 3 years ago
if you look closely at its hand it flips you off
uchiha0blood 3 years ago
"Backwoods of Alabama" what an idiot. I live in Alabama and I've never herd of such a thing.
drumking1006 3 years ago
Is it really that big of news when Paris passes out on a beach?
soiledshortz 3 years ago
i was in montauk or east hampton for that matter when this happened!!!
the7dorkss 3 years ago
I really suspect that this is a "viral video" put forth by some marketing group preparing the public for a new television show; there's a new reality "monster" show that is coming out soon, coincidentally. Notice that we are also hearing about a bigfoot corpse being discovered and a new video of the supposed chupabara is out -- all being touted at the same time? Doesn't anyone else suspect media manipulation? Does anyone else hate media manipulation like I do?
pbarnes26 3 years ago
maybe they did stuff like this for cloverfield so maybe that new reality show got this idea from cloverfield
cooler268 3 years ago
EETS PARIS HILTON'S DAUGHTER!
Minakess 3 years ago
dude when was this i live on long island i never heard about this
nymetsreyeswright 3 years ago
There are more "backwoods" in New York state than Alabama where land is mostly used for agricultutal purposes. Ignorant city folk...
That thing looks like CLoverfields baby...
freightdog777 3 years ago
its a fuckin new dinosaur were al-l gonna die ahhhhhhh
bigballin4284 3 years ago
the humor is a ploy to make people think this is not a big deal. Fuck FOX
3rdShaman 3 years ago
omg looks like my friend jenny on steroids i left her there
MizzChula88 3 years ago
its a minator...or w.e they called that beast in that maze
avarythegreat 3 years ago
or it could be an alien with down syndrome
JAYTASTICROCKS 3 years ago
TOO FUNNY MAN!!! hahahaha!
deviletk 3 years ago
looks like that flying thing from harry potter 3
JAYTASTICROCKS 3 years ago
i live on long island!!
daftpunkrocker221 3 years ago
XO i was there a week before it happend so glad i wasnt there
LadyKayejumper 3 years ago
The backwoods of alabama what a fucking stereotypical asshole damn Nas was right!
ChaiMaster 3 years ago 2
Its probably an undiscovered deep sea creature, there is so many creatures in the ocean that have not even been discovered yet because its so enormous, and not to mention the fact that there are so many areas deep down in the bottom of the ocean that no man has ever even been to. This species may have been around for thousands of years, it almost looks like a dinosaur species...thats just my opinion though. or maybe its a deformed alien.
videofan88 3 years ago 2
I'd reckanize thet ennywhar! Fry mah hide! i was wonnerin' whut happened t'mah cousin!
gaspassgaspass 3 years ago
Major HOAX !!
9aspengold5 3 years ago
Uhhhh, plum island anybody?
thescorpioqueen 3 years ago
Eww Wat The F Is Dat! LOL Das Some Shit Man...Anyways Come Check Out My Music Yall!
Drafpic 3 years ago
it was a Capybara, those large rodents from South America, someone just threw it in the salt water
canuk69err 3 years ago
wat the fuck. i live on Long Island...Montauk is full of Mexicans...it aint nothin like the Hamptons.
CrunchyBlck73 3 years ago
its a dog being i a salt water about 3-5 days
vboosha 3 years ago
It looks like a over sized turtle with claws and fangs.lol i have know clue but all i know is that its about the ugliest thing i have ever seen.
puppiesRcute523 3 years ago
project montauk!
morrighan4u 3 years ago
I left my dog at the beach I think you found him :D
optimusXmeXD 3 years ago
Instead of BSing about what it is, why doesn't someone do a DNA test? The media is complete BS. They need to do actual investigative journalism instead of laughing this kinda stuff off. Gets me so mad!
Peaceman526 3 years ago 6
much agreed
Ericbranson3 3 years ago
Or you could get someone who has studied comparative anatomy to tell you it is a raccoon...
Lagomort 3 years ago