György Ligeti (1923-2006) - Requiem (1/3)

[keisuke185]

tang inang yan

[douglasmatley]

Love the Kyrie, made more famous by 2001 A Space Odyssey. D. Alexandr D'Maddalena post scriptum, This is how a requiem should sound. D. Alexandr D'Maddalena

[bmosley45]

Do not, repeat, do not listen to this home alone with insufficient lighting.

[PostPunkFan]

Scary and fantastic at the same time.

[galanteria0047]

1 person was too sad and scared ;)

[cofpaddy]

Play this into any dark room and it would scare the pants off anyone...

[darkallegiance666]

Fabulous music - absolutely beautiful.

[myguitardidyermom12]

Ergot Poisoning...feels rye man

[ZombieDragQueen]

Is that guy in the upper right corner sailing some sort of proto-surfing board or proto-scooner? Did Bosch anticipate the creation of those things? Totally spaced out!

[yamamonkey]

@miserkatulle would you please. just. read. the damn. comments.

[Tarmonius]

I know what I want... I want my own choir to accompany me on my journeys and create subtle atmosphere. Everything I'd do would instantly turn epic.

[Bagas]

Freakin monumental music.

[Hidalgos81]

a genius

[Kasket1006]

The influence of Ligeti's experience in the Concentration Camps, as well as the death of both of his parents in said camps is far too apparent in his works.

Completely obliterating all harmony & melody by use of tone clusters? Damn this guy is good.

[gonrolgonrol]

The trumpetplayer really got to show of his/her skills at about 2.06 ;)

[MrsAlexisClyde]

@gonrolgonrol

I went to 2:06. I laughed

[radiootoo]

Just Wiki'd Ligeti, and if anyone could better represent the Dead, let that one perform on The YouTube!

[johnrskie]

IM TRIPPING BALLS MAN.

[profalconey3]

fucking sick

[ipsos2007]

That's great !

[yamamonkey]

who said people weren't on LSD in the middle ages

[yamamonkey]

@yamamonkey FYI i'm not talking about the song, but the painting

[theprof1958]

@yamamonkey

If you look carefully at the picture you will see a guy with a flute in his ass...

LSD is too recent... I think something like peyote

[MrsAlexisClyde]

@theprof1958

That guy DOES have a flute in his ass!

[greensaregood]

@theprof1958 By George there is!

[NanaNarcotic]

@theprof1958 lmfao!

[thanoulijonroth]

@theprof1958 yes, but regardless of the middleages, this was written in the 60s!!!!

that's in your description as well... !

[teddy36912]

@theprof1958

Eating rotten rye in the middle ages could cause ergot poisoning. The alkaloid in the ergot fungus is a precursor to LSD. It would have similar effects.

[vkoracx]

@theprof1958

why are you looking at the guys ass?:)

[maxabeles]

@theprof1958 lol

[civetadej]

@yamamonkey idiot this isn't the middle ages. György Ligeti was born in 1923 and this was composed in 1965 A.D. you fuck, that means now, and yes he was DEFINITELY taking LSD.

[yamamonkey]

@civetadej

whoa whoa whoa... okay so I didn't know what I was talking about, my bad

but that's no reason to go flying off the handle like that.

[civetadej]

@yamamonkey sorry, it happens.

[yamamonkey]

@civetadej thats ok, haha

[civetadej]

@yamamonkey also, the fact that you know what this is, makes you a person worthy of opinion.

[panopticonartist]

@yamamonkey look up ergot

[Smarttyy]

@yamamonkey ligeti died less that five years ago not five hundred smarts.

[yamamonkey]

@Smarttyy read the comments smarts

[voxhunden]

@yamamonkey Amanita Muscaria, Hyoscyamus niger, Datura stramonium, Solanum nigrum and many more were all plenty available in W-Europe back then (and still are). It would have taken significant knowledge and skill to prepare them however, a slight overdose could easily send you into ecstasy forever.

[TommyDai1]

@yamamonkey middle ages this music is from the 20th century

[EarTipper]

@yamamonkey Read about St. Anthonys fire - All joking aside you are actually correct.

[Vlaanderson]

@yamamonkey Lysergic acid, the active substance in LSD is found in the ergot fungus wich grows on rye and related plants. Usage of ergot fungus as hallucinogenic drug is more or less proven since the antique.

[DafniElissa]

@yamamonkey not people, but him...Bosch, the painter! He's my favourite :)

[CALLAMAYMARK]

MUSIQUE DU GENIAL FILM 2001 L'ODYSSEE DE L'ESPACE DU GRAND STANLEY KUBRICK

[jonathanmelia]

20 years ago I saw this performed live in London. Ligeti sat on the aisle opposite me....in one of the intervals kids came up to him with 2001 stills asking him to sign them.....awwwww. Oliver Knusson sat on a balcony leaning over as far as possible so he was as close to the orchestra as possible!

[jonathanmelia]

I once listened to this stoned. BIG MISTAKE. 

[MarcheseCadmio88]

Like Penderecki's "Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima", it's one of the most terrifying musical pieces ever. I adore it!!

[123must]

magnifica e sconvolgente: Ligeti è un genio assoluto della musica.

[madderbass]

I love the two bass solos. I love how they have to growl that part out as best as they can.

[ytrewq3141]

Does anybody know the name of the picture or at least by whom it was created?

[theprof1958]

@ytrewq3141

He is a Flemish painter

Jeroen Anthoniszoon van Aken better known as

Hieronymus Bosch (1450-1516).

In Spain he was called El Bosco

The picture is taken from the right part of the The Garden of Earthly Delights, and is called The Garden of Eden (15031504)

Oil on wood 220 × 389 cm

Museo del Prado, Madrid, Spain

[Epistemofo]

@theprof1958 You are well-named indeed, sir. Nice to have someone take such efforts to enlighten.

[AA19752012]

@theprof1958

Actually the picture shown in the video is the Hellscape from the right panel of the Garden of Earthly Delights (the namesake of which is displayed on the center panel). The Garden of Eden is on the left panel.

[rone714]

@theprof1958 It was my understanding that the left panel of the triptych was called The Garden of Eden, right panel is called Hell....

[juantarquinoprisco1]

@ytrewq3141 "EL JARDIN DE LAS DELICIAS" DE EL BOSCO..

[japanesesweet]

Have you heard the more recent recording on teldec-I actually think the Gielen one from the 60s which you have posted has more bite especially in the Kyrie (Ligeti spent 9 months writing that movement!)

what a wonderful piece and inspired choice of film music on Kubrick`s part.

[ytrewq3141]

Does anybody know the name of the picture or who created it?

[MarcheseCadmio88]

@ytrewq3141 Hieronymus Bosch, "The Garden of Earthly Delights" (right panel)

[LardoDiColonnata]

It's just great!

As the Historical of Music prof. Paolo Menichini said: "With this Reaquiem, Ligeti, finally, let's the dead people from beyond the grave sing themselves"

[theprof1958]

At my funeral, if any, I'll play Requiem, Lux Aeterna and Lontano all by Ligeti. So people who will come, if any, will understand BETTER what death is :-)

Expecially if you make a comparison with Verdi's or Mozart's.

I love very much these last two requiems, but they make death look like a beautiful thing in light and glory etc etc

In my humble opinion death is the second worst thing that can occur to a person, The first is BIRTH...

Happy new year!

[BraedenX]

@theprof1958 It'll prove rather difficult for you to play those pieces when you are dead...

[OriginellerUserName]

@theprof1958 What's so bad about death? You won't be there to experience it...

Same goes for birth IMO, there is no assessment (i.e awareness) in a newborn, in that sense I completely disagree with Freud's claim that birth is a traumatic thing

[Unbihexium]

@theprof1958 Why are you so depressed? If you look deeper into what your thoughts mean you'll see that birth is the death of nont-living and death is the birth of non-living. And neither has got anything to do with "existence". And beautiful music can be an excuse for life. For similar reasons when younger I have chosen Faure's Requiem for my funeral (I think that piece is also different from those you have mentioned),but now I would let the bereaved to chose. May I recommend Takemitsu's Requiem

[theprof1958]

@Unbihexium

I am not depressed because of death. I was depressed because I was ill. Now I am doing my cures and I feel better. Actually I agree with you about death...

Thank you for Takemitsu hint

:-)

Do you know Verdi's Requiem?

[Unbihexium]

@theprof1958 I understand you, sincerely, nobody is depressed because of death. :) I wish you health! Yes, I know the Verdi piece, I sang it with a big choir when I was 15. And one of my most remarkable experience happened during Tuba mirum. It was a sunny summer day. After the fanfare when we started singing "tuba mirum" the heavens answered with a very loud thunderbolt. This has been the biggest kick into my materialist conviction...

[Unbihexium]

@Unbihexium I have forgotten to mention the performance (and the rehearsal I've mentioned) was in a cathedral.

[Jenga666]

This is the most surreal music I have ever heard in my life. It is 1:48 and I am all alone. I am terrified.

[theprof1958]

Actually death IS terrifying... Ligeti's Requiem is very very different from Requiems of renaissance and baroque era, when death was an everyday event, when half of the people died before 15 years old, when life expectance was less than the half of nowadays.

But there are exceptions. I'll try to upload other terrifying Requiems like Verdi's or Mozarts's

BTW. This music is part of the sountrack of Kubrick's

2001, a space odissey

[dom1945]

@theprof1958 Isn't death death still an everyday event? Aren't we all mortals still?

I just have this intense feeling that this music is everything but scary. It is probably trying to express the natural aspect of death? I don't know, death is sad, but not necessary scary. It is as long as one tries to think about it... and this music will be too.

Maybe I am all wrong but this is what I feel.

[Hyardacil]

@theprof1958 I disagree. Death is the lack of any experience. So no terror within it either. Dying may be terrifying however.

Awesome piece, but not something I would want to scare people with in my funeral.