Worlds Apart -To verdener

[themightyflog]

Parents of any religion or background try to instill their family values in their children. It is a part of being human. In this case you had a young girl who was taught to be a moral person and seemed happy. You had a guy come into the picture, one she did not love enough to even marry, and she began to doubt her faith, lie, sneak, hide, do the dirty dead,etc. Sorry but she seemed like a nicer girl before she dated the guy. True love makes you a better person not worse.

[tudostein]

Three things that are not correct in this movie: 1) She would not have been permitted to be a pioneer (full time missionary) while seeing a boy outside of her religion, even if he shows interest in the faith. 2) Witnesses who share their experiences at an assembly do not address the audience directly, but are interviewed. 3) At the end, her father suggests she has to be invited to attend the funeral of her friend. Not true. All public meetings are open to everyone, even those who are expelled.

[themightyflog]

@tudostein agreed

[synrgii]

Ignorant people talk how smart they are & how stupid JW's are. They point out irrationalities. But they never lived it. They don't REALLY understand at all. It's not about logic/intelligence when you're IN it and BELIEVE it. It's about circular-reason, guilt, self-delusion, etc. In fact, intelligence makes you stay LONGER with your own mindgames. No, this movie PERFECTLY portrays the soul-crushing insanity. Don't vote the MOVIE down because you didn't live it or like JW's. THAT'S being "stupid".

[ChynnaJade]

its not a cult

[AsumiShiroNiwa]

I love that movie!!!

Jehovas whitnesses are totally gone...! They make my religion into shame.!

[Natasjatvr]

vildt at den scene, der starter ved 0.19 er der ikke flere tusinde folk.. vi var 200! ;)

[Squiddlysplooch]

funny 'cause, my mother is a Jehovah's Witness who is married to an atheist. Did she have to choose? eh no.... kinda clear on that one eh? I know a couple of other Witnesses that didn't marry people in their own religion. They kinda blew it out of proportion in this movie.

[Westcoastrocksduh]

@Squiddlysplooch There was nothing incorrect about that movie. You are making statements as if you were raised in this cult. In my opinion they went way to easy on the JW's.

[synrgii]

@Squiddlysplooch: nothing was blown out of proportion. how the dating and courtship are handled, and appearances to non-witnesses (neighbors) have a small amount of flexibility to it (depending on the chaperons involved and time and places spent alone.) Matters of sex are pretty much black-and-white. Moreover, maybe you missed many of the points made, like her deciding things for her entire life. All her relationships, including with God, her boyfriend, her father. Sigh.

[serginmatius]

I`m a JW from Mexico and I have a career or degree in pedagogy, 2 of my sisters are expulsed from the JW congragation but I`m still in contact with them and we can talk about many topics not about religion (cause they dont like it anymore), I`ve found many friends there, they dont push me to take alcohol or drugs like my past "friends" (thanks to them I and my stupidity I have pròtesis in my teeth) In my opinion this movie is very exaggerated

[Westcoastrocksduh]

@serginmatius

Did you watch the entire movie?

[tudostein]

@serginmatius This movie shows a problem the girl has. One, she believes in her faith, but wants to have a sexual relationship without being married. You simply can't do both. Because of that she decides that her God isn't real anymore. Not because she received some new understanding, but because she wanted to do her own thing. That's rationalizing behavior for purely selfish reasons. Not only does she leave her faith, but she leaves the boyfriend, as well. Does that make sense? No.

[synrgii]

@serginmatius: That's because mexico is very different in how the religion is run there then in the US or Europe. This movie is not exaggerated in those countries.

[ToxicAttraction]

@serginmatius I was a JW for years. they are not exaggerating at all. I have experienced many things in what that film showed.. what do you say when when people ask you " So im going to die if i don't believe in Jehovah?" or " So an innocent child is going to die because his/her parents didn't believe in Jehovah?" How do you feel when you answer those questions? Do you really think Jehovah would be that cruel? There are so many other people in this world that are good at heart too!

[pypy22]

this movie is a load of crap and i know what the witness life is like. FIRST IF YOU CHOOSE TO DATE OUT OF THE TRUTH then that is your decision you wont get disfellowshipped for it problably on public reproof but not disfellowshipped and second why does the so called elder in this clip have a beard?

[scepticreader]

@pypy22  Care to expound on what parts of the film you deem as "crap"?

Watchtower publications directly have commented on the limited allowance of men wearing beards, and is more common in logging areas (US, Northwest, i.e.), and the countries of Scandanavia (where the story originates).

On this subject (JW's and beards), I spoke with a current "Bethelite" in Jan., 2010 that mentioned the restriction of no beards, "gets watered down the further you travel away from Headquarters."

[CuzinsSJNJ]

I'm a Jehovah's Witnesses

[MyRageXD]

@CuzinsSJNJ

Ha!

[CuzinsSJNJ]

@MyRageXD Whats so funny about it?

[MyRageXD]

@CuzinsSJNJ

I just love the fact that your religion claims that homosexuality is unnatural, even though your religion is speaking against some of the most natural things about humans, even harmless things. (Sex before marriage, and masturbation, and that is just a few examples.)

Makes SO much sense. What scientific and intelligent humans you guys are. Therefore: HA!

[NEMESIS1999]

@MyRageXD

I adore this movie saw it for the first time 3 days ago and i am in love with it, the story, the characters, the moral and religious issues and most of all the main character she is so beautiful and delicate so fragile and confused between her love and her faith very very touching for those who can understand it.

[KOKID83]

i want this movie can someone tell me if they have it on DVD with english sub titles or if they sell it somewhere out here maybe at best buy or something?

[cpmafia]

Religions create war and hate.. religions are one of the worse things in the world

[2010BeachBoy]

What the movie fails to show is the result of sexual activity outside of marriage. Unwanted pregnancy, sexually transmitted disease, whether that guy stuck with her or dumped her for some other conquest, etc. Jehovah's Witnesses try to protect their beloved young ones from all the dangers of this evil world. It's love, not cult like behavior that motivates parents to warn their children of such things.

[mrbarthoss]

In the pantheon of truely shallow comments I have come across by Watchtower apologists in the past year, this ranks as a true classic!

Your implication here is that the young woman should remain an idealogical prisoner of the Witness' fundamentalism in exchange of her personal liberties, which include her own sexuality.

It is beyond suspicious that you describe Witness family life in such terms, ignoring the reality of incest, anxiety, depression, and denile.

This is a great film

[2010BeachBoy]

I was a "prisoner" before I became one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I became "Free" from my selfish inappropriate desires, drug addiction, overindulgence in alcohol and numerous other things that enslaved me. All her father wanted to do was protect her from all the problems that come along with sex before marriage. Unwanted pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, and most importantly, from ruining her relationship with her Creator. Yes, He still views sex before marriage as wrong! ! Cor. 6:18

[mrbarthoss]

@2010BeachBoy

[NEMESIS1999]

@2010BeachBoy

Really are you free from the outside or are you in chains from the inside drug and addiction is wrong not selfish and love, is love selfish?

[2010BeachBoy]

@NEMESIS1999 Wish I had a clue what on earth you were just trying to say. Drug addiction IS a selfish pursuit. It's all about me, with little regard for those around you who are affected by your selfish behavior.

[NEMESIS1999]

@2010BeachBoy

I will explain drug addiction is not selfish because you don't control your impulses your body does you can label something as selfish only when you control that action with your will and with purpose not your body giving you the need to inject drug sustamce every time.

[2010BeachBoy]

Why don't you for once respond to the comments made instead of making these abstact, ridiculous, useless comments with regard to "The Watchtower". You, or no one else can change the fact that we are created by someone much more intelligent than us. He has the RIGHT to tell us what is right or wrong, good or bad. That someone is not a nameless God but is the God of Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, King David etc. His name is Jehovah (Psalm 83:18)

[77MiaFia]

@2010BeachBoy one question, where is Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour??? Something to think about.

[2010BeachBoy]

@77MiaFia Acts 2:33 says this: "Therefore because he was exalted to the right hand of God"

That's "Where Jesus is". At God's Right hand

[patycardenas]

@2010BeachBoy (1Corinthians 15:33)

[rasfus]

Spanish Comment Invasion

[MarleneGarcia94]

um anywher where ican see the movie in english???

[PwrOfChristInMe]

I just found it at blockbuster with english subtitles... it's really good!!

[lthom33]

I just watched this movie yesterday on Sundance with English subtitles. Wonderful acting. You really feel Sara' anguish between the love she has for her family and for Teius (?) Any religion should not make a person choose. What is so godly about expelling your child from those she loves? They build them up on family, then it's the first thing they use to manipulate their children to do what they say. It' all about control and it' insane.

[themightyflog]

@lthom33 She wasn't expelled for loving the boy, she was expelled because she was havinga sexual relationship with the boy. Dating and having sex before marriage are two differant things. Had Teius been a JW and they had a non-repentant sexual relationship she could have gotten expelled for that as well. The process of expulsion is in the Bible but so is the process of coming back from expulsion. She could always come back just not while in a non married sexual relationship.

[toizim]

A dessacociação é um absurdo, olhem no meu canal o depoimento de pessoas que sairam das Testemunhas de Jeová e a religiao destruiu a vida deles mandando os amigos e a familia deles nao falar mais com eles e a tratar eles com tremendo despreso! apenas pq eles nao queria mais pertencer a esta religiao. Nos dias de hoje isso é um absurdo! Um crime grave contra os direitos humanos! Esta é a unica religiao que nao tem como vc sair de lá sem perder a honra

[carolinebis17]

Assim como um filho precisa de orientação para a vida e quando comete erros deve ser ajudado a corrigi-los da mesma forma o Nosso Deus Jeová age conosco, para que possamos readquirir o bom senso e dessa forma não sofrermos desnecessariamente.

[carolinebis17]

Estou desassociada e podem acreditar em mim, o filme é uma imensuravel mentira no que tange à forma de abordar o assunto desassociação. Um pai humano disciplina o filho a quem ama, de maneira similar o Deus Verdadeiro Jeová age com seus servos. Assim

[leomartinssilvaRJ]

Uma das Seitas mais perigosas que eu

ja conheci sao os Testemunhas de Jeova

eles entregam para o Diabo as pessoas

que discordam da Seita deles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[toizim]

tambem acho que este filme é mentiroso pq nao mostra nem a metade do quando esta religiao é perigosa de destroe os lares e traz desgraca pra vida de quem nao quer mais pertencer a ela. Gracas a Jeova por terem feito este filme de uma religiao que traz vituperio pro nome dele!

[toizim]

è uma religiao muito boa e tem muita gente legal nela é uma pena que se vc quiser sair dela, ninguem desta religiao, mesmo sendo amigo de 50 anos nao fala mais com vc, nem te comprimenta, por isso eu jamais entraria lá pra me batizar. VERDADE SEJA DITA NÉ? o filme foi postado completo em portugues no meu canal

[Monitj1]

Este video es una mendira difamadora, faltando a la verda, "Falso testimonio"

[ztzttzt1]

Todos sabemos que nenhum filme é imparcial. Tanto é que, em um DVD, antes de o filme ter início, aparecem os dizeres "expressam opiniões DE SEUS IDEALIZADORES". Portanto, qualquer pessoa de bom senso faria questão verificar a veracidade das informações antes de acreditar cegamente nelas.

[prumott08]

great story, and is it just me or does teis look like ohad knoller

[fireman12888]

Truly(to me) one of the saddest story relating to the implications of religion.

I don't speak of comparing this to those justifications of mass murders through religion, which i am assured are far worst scenerios.

[Kry0nz]

(view previous comment) I do believe true love can come outside the religion itself..... one just needs guidance and ppl who UNDERSTAND when a teen or son wtver confesses he finds himself divided. This is a parent to son common mistake, not religious. And I'm a son..... well, keep looking for answers anyway ;) only well informed ppl can argue better about self opinions. Good luck to all in these self-interpretations!

[Kry0nz]

answers u seek (view under comment) well keep insisting, tell to a nearby salon or meeting place (can't be sure about the correct term in english) where JW's meet and ask particulary for someone more suited to answer difficult questions and just talk. Remember, I think the bible can't tell everything about how to follow it, but, I must say I do believe there are chances of related facts in the bible that were proven correct by science etc. Well, you really have to look into it.... but I must say

[Kry0nz]

I will not say God acts wrong, but I can't be sure about he acting right. If ppl question themselves about that through this movie on, I think they should try to get answers by requesting a free study to a true qualified (by qualified I mean an Elder, a good and experient Jehova Witness) so that he can ask pertinent questions such: "How can I trust in a God that I don't directly see?" as I think this is a very old question to humanity. In any case, if the 1st Jehova Witness can't satisfy the

[videosungod]

crazy paying money for this rubbish

[blankpage78]

is it available in Italian?

[purlbeauty]

yea

[danishsunshine]

Its really horrible that young people will give their whole future up. Its so much brainwash. Poor kids... :'( Im from denmark and I have seen the whole movie, its amazing and I would recommend it, both for vitnesses of jehova and for people with other religions, like my self, Im a christian.

[cirujeda]

Me gustaría ver la pelicula, el tema me interesa. Es una religión legal no es una secta peligrosa, en todo caso pertenece al gobierno juzgarla y de momento hay libertades y derechos constitucionales.

A mi nadie me obliga a ir a estudiar con ellos. Es cierto que son muy duros, pero yo tengo una hermana en el OPUS DEI y no se que es peor.

[vivalahush]

pretty silly that she prays to a God she doesn't believe in at the end.

confused much?

[lesswr]

I believe she says something like" Jehovah I dont believe in you"..doesnt she?

[Nutribal]

Agreed

[fireman12888]

@lesswr yes she does at the end she says that

[synrgii]

@vivalahush: Ever hear of something called "closure"? Do you have ANY empathy for an amazingly strong and respectable young girl that just lost contact/support with all her friends, her best friend in a car accident, her relationship with her father, her siblings, her first love and lover, and is trying to now face the entire world with no education/diploma and that she was nearly completely sheltered from already...all revolving around lives devoted to that God. What's wrong with you, not her.

[xAn1d9r9e4a]

det er den bedste film jeg har set længe..!!

øj man hvor er ham Teis bare en nuttet fyr!

[lesswr]

In English please!

[Nutribal]

It is actually a danish movie. You will expect some people will write in danish.

[xXxXxXmicha]

@lesswr it means: It's the best film I've seen in a long time..!! Wow, that guy Theis is just too cute!

To danes: I know this is not the exact words, but it's difficult to translate it! (;

[BringtheLight1980]

Oniisanmaaku you be the man/woman!!

9 of 15 parts are now up at the link

[lesswr]

in ENGLISH please...

[lexie90306]

are you witness of jehovah?

[lesswr]

are u?

[BringtheLight1980]

I need an English translation or sub-titles. ANy idea where i can get one? Plz?

[oniisanmaaku]

Check it out on IFC.