Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible teaches despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
YES!! Fucking YES!!! Fucking YESSS! THANK you for putting that into your video, TF. Sick of this BULLSHIT that somehow Hitler or Charles Manson or ANYONE in prison or "criminals" is somehow "physically mentally different" from those of us not in prison.
Let alone getting into the issue that "criminals" is defined by whatever the law happens to be, which is TOTALLY independent of the actual UTILITY function (badness or goodness) of that crime.
In the awesome Mike Judge movie "Idiocracy", another element he could have added, that would be consistent with the overall theme of an America that has dumbed down greatly in 500 years, is everyone going around calling each other Hitler and Nazis. "Say, Hitler - please pick up a quart of milk for me on your way back from your Nazi ballet class!" "Ok, Hitler! Will you be done with your Nazi chores by 7pm? Don't forget we gotta catch that Nazi play by 8."
I don't agree. My mind is very different from yours, clearly. I won't agree with things I don't agree with for ANY reason. I'm hard pressed just to apologise when I don't mean it; even to save a friendship.
In Nazi Germany I would be dead. Dead because I wouldn't go along with it just because the government and media said so. Dead because fuck popular opinion.
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I actually recall one of your early videos showing a clip of a creationist talking side by side with clip of Hilter. Granted, it was in the context of propaganda discussion. Just saying :P
But I am definitely a fan of your work. Keep it up!
catholics & jews control the media- when jews say "the jewish race is gods chosen people"- is that a racist statement? im confused-why do pple have a religion after all these wars? b/c gov can manipulate them-thats why capitalists support/pay to send religious leaders to tell pple what god (capitalists) wants them to do-is there any war which does not use god to make workers kill women/children workers across a capitalist imaginary borders(ever-changing)?any ideas?
Scientology resembles Nazi ideology in that it appeals to a base element in the human mind, that wishes to belong to an "elite" group within the body politic. As with Germans who felt defrauded by the Versailles Treaty, and felt their livelihoods threatened by "foreign" (read "Jewish") interests, wanted to be a part of an ennobling cult, so Scientology preys on emotionally stunted or vulnerable people who feel a similar sense of disenfranchisement.
Uhh... That is to say, what? Is that real? Are the members of Scientology tax exempt? Because that makes no sense. I know numerous people in ACTUAL religions that pay taxes... I've gotta go look some things up now.
I'm proud to be German, and proud to learn from our countries past mistakes. Believers in Scientology have been BRAINWASHED and do NOT recognize this, just like in Nazi Germany. Stop the madness!!
very smart video! Thanks! Notice Miscaviage doesn't pound down that the IRS has accepted Scientology as religion. He's way more into having 'his' money non-taxable...
It is either the NWO or the crazy $cifag$ and their Sea Org para-military outfit overthrowing the NWO. Listen to former Sea Org member Aaron Saxton about this on the Aaronsaxtonspeaks channel.....it is a wake uo call....2010 is the year the cult will never recover. The /i/ killing $cientology..$cientology found out the hard way that they do not control the net. No one does but many shape it and any thing can go virally pandemic any time, so watch out those who wish to control netz and intrawebz.
It's definately a different situation (though not any better), but I am reminded of the Twilight Zone episode "the obsolete man" where a dystopian near-future state condemns people in private little courts for not thinking "right." I think the connection is that they both are disgusting ideas and make me cringe at the thought of the future with people like this.
I never knew how bad scientology was, I thought it was just a bunch of jerks who wanted to get out of paying some taxes. But Prison Camps!? (I'm sorry Rehabilitation Camps!?) That's just sick.
people who manipulate masses get to be presidents. people who have rational thinking and show us what the world is really like end up on youtube. Tf00t, don't stop here, we need people like you.
well luckily or unluckily, the Scientology cult is at an impasse, they require the degraded of freedom of speech for their success, but are at the mercy of powerful religious groups. perhaps when most large organized religions are dead they could be a threat, but organizations like the Vatican would steam roll them if they ever managed the starting stages of their goals.
Because they're technically non-profit organizations; just because the church of Scientology and numerous Christian congregations make a lot of money (or seem to) doesn't mean all or even most religion-based organizations in the US do. A lot of organizations that do in fact do quite a bit of legitimate good for their communities and for the world in general would be wiped out or would barely be able to function if they weren't tax-exempt.
no they generally do not within the church, in the missions they do great good but this is usually tempered by the fact that it is to gain converts, while I would love news of it, I have yet to hear of a church funded charity that was ran secularly and independent of the status of those persons who take part in receiving charity.
@SaimDI Because taxes in most modern countries are so high that most religious organizations couldn't possibly operate without being exempt from at least some of the taxes. What that would look like is the government shutting down religion, and as you can probably guess, that can make a lot of people *very* upset. In a democratic country, that translates into votes. A lot of votes, from a highly dedicated base.
Its perfectly understandable when viewed this way, isn't it?
@SaimDI i think i shuld. bechose if we tax religion then they have way in to goverment. and if theres anything that is dangerus then mixing religion with politics is that.
@SaimDI actually, any religious institution paying taxes is a monetary link between church and state, so all religions should be tax-exempt. I don't agree with it, but i can'change what the constitution and the bill of rights say.
@SaimDI I actually get that. A whole lot of religions do good things for people. In the name of absurdities, but good things nonetheless. They should prove their ability to do those things before they gain tax exempt status.
Sadly, I don't think he can; I'm pretty sure he's British, and the Constitution has never been amended to allow people of foriegn birth to be president.
rimfa123, in your last post, its amazing how you ignore all previous aspects of the discussion and suddenly jump to one tiny error that gunnermac70 has made in order to shift attention from your teetering POV (that is clearly being shattered) in order to make it 'seem' that all of a sudden because your adversary has made a mistake, that is enough to convince you that everything up to that point was wrong.
Also, the "level" of education you have does not entitle you to deride others.
Whilst I realise that I am butting into a discussion that seems to have ended a week ago I feel I must say that speaking from my own personal experience at life in general I find the idea that our oppinions are inherent rather than acquired to be somewhat odd if not even demonstrably false. Thus I would be very interested to hear what you base that idea on.
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Again, an un-structured rant with no particuular meaning. I'm guessing you're using primitive psychology methods there trying to imply i'm a fan of TF to get me angry?
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When i am writing in three hour exams, i check my spelling. When i am talking to pompous little children i couldn't give a toss. Pseudo intellect is exactly what i meant. Thundef00t posts his videos for others to enjoy, shame they are hijacked by nitwits like you so you can hide behind them. Strange, using remnants of stuck up Victoriana in your sentences seems as far as you can go? Didn't that BSc teach you any latin? Now if you really want to look clever like your messiah, i suggest you learn.
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This kind of unstructured, anthropomorphisised response is exactly the contribution i expected from one of TF's child followers. Im an A-level student, you silly little boy, don't you dare try to place yourself above me with the use of pseudo-inttelectual attempts at complex sentance structures. If you want to demonstrate reductioadabsurdum and hide behind grammer, then i can play that game, and most probably win, so ditch the bullshit, reconsider your refutation, and reply like an adult.
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"My opinions are innate. People admire TF too much, so myuch that they take evrything he says as gospel. That is my problem, I'd be a bit happier if TF actually gave a toss and replied.
"The human mind forms its opinions of the world based on the information it receives". What, so we are supposed to take your opinion as fact? Fact: there is little or no evidence to provide satisying proof for that opinion. To be honest TF, i am a skeptic, i believe firmly in evolution and place my trust in science, but i am absolutely sick of you spoonfeeding mindless followers your personol opinion as if it were solid fact. Do you realise there is an army of votebots on your side?
You actually have an army of people that view you as some kind of messiah. that harrass other youtubers that don't even care about the issues you discuss. You put forth the impression that religious people are arrogant, for what? Thinking they should humble themselves? Fair enough, show Scientology for what it is, expose creation myths, when i want your opinion, i'll watch your videos, albeit i have a problem with you expressing your opinion as if it were absolute fact.
You have conceived an army of pseudo-poets, scientists, philosophers and human beings. The extreme compassion for concept of free-thought that we both share seems to have left your viewers, many of which take your word as Gospel.
That is my problem.
P.S. I'm expecting little more than 200 thumbs down and some ad hominem insults. TF, i doubt if you will evn bother to read this. "Oh ye of little faith" your disciples would say to me.
@akirosette You seem to be commenting rather excessively on this video, any reason? And, for the record, clearly, according to TF's infinite wisdom, an ordinary human being with a point to make isn't important to him at all.
maybe you're too stupid to realize the vast majority reading and listening to this guy are not doing so out of dogmatic beliefs. None of the things science attempts to explain are done so without evidence, they are naturalistic, further more, TF has been more than willing in most of his videos to actually explain his opinions with evidence AND present sources. People treat him with great respect because he gives hours of his life protecting their rights and being informative.
@akirosette So hatred of Muslims is based on Empirical evidence? My point was, when people whom respect Thunderf00t then translate that into blindly obliging his opinions with action, that's when it gets dangerous. P.S. Before you accuse me, I have no affiliation with Islam. I don't think accusations of being stupid were relevant, so I'm not going to bother insulting you back...
What is impericle is how to approach a religion when it attempts to behave a certain way and influence the government or other people. If we want to live in a free society, you cant have people voting in religious laws and cowing children into converts.
@akirosette Tbh I can't actually remember the point I made, I would agree however, that religion should never be allowed to govern the life's of those whom do not believe in it.
@akirosette In all fairness, I've been doing A-levels for the last year, and as a result of being more educated, I have dropped a load a b/s I used to believe.
If you are so stunned by the random chance of this as some kind of divine act of god, maybe you should consider never returning home again as soon as you hit traffic, clearly the gods are trying to tell you something if it would take an extra 30 minutes to return home, and these are not in any way common events with rational explinations
And the sad thing is that some people are willing to make Scientology as the victims and the critics (esp. anons) the "Nazis." Completely ridiculous but some of the hardcore supporters (suspected members) of Scientology use Godwins Law as basis for arguments on YouTube. Excellent video and I think I've learned something new today.
i had never realised how ruthless scientology was, i always thought of them as a crazy cult, however if you look at; for example the lisa mcpherson case you will realise they are evil and people should never get involved with them
Germany's case on Scientology is pathetic. They have spent months if not years keeping tabs on Scientology over there and have stated that they plan to do shit like overthrow the government and other nonsense like that. The stuff TF quoted is tame to some of the other accusations they've made. In all this time, nothing.
The guy at the beginning claims he was a prisoner. Oh, but he isn't going to the authorities? I don't get it.
authorities? scientology has high profile legal teams to fight these claims. prove it! do you have video? no one within the Co$ will testify on your behalf. i suspect germany is building a case of tax fraud and child abuse, there are a few stories of this from ex members. scientology's practice of attacking anyone's life who leaves the church means ex members would rather not be involved in a case. calling their employer and lying, calling their wife or husband and lying. anything to hurt you.
I don't buy this "Scientology is above the law" bullshit. It's a fucking conspiracy theory. Not even the mafia was this powerful and they killed witnesses. Are you telling me the Church of Scientology is on this level? Please, this is nothing but conspiracy theories and hearsay.
Germany has been "building a case" for over a decade now and they've got nothing. Go read the "Germany vs. Scientology" Wiki entry.
"scientology's practice of attacking anyone's life who leaves the church means ex members would rather not be involved in a case. calling their employer and lying, calling their wife or husband and lying. anything to hurt you."
I like how you first say they try to kill dissenters and then you say they call their employers and wives and lie to them. Why the fuck would they need to do that if they're trying to kill someone? Did they threaten to give them a swirly next?
when did i say they try to murder people?.. they attack your character, they fabricate cases.. look them up.. these are real cases. how about the case of scientology members keeping an injured member from medical attention until she died. unless you mean this by me saying "attacking anyones life" by that i mean the lawsuits, ruining any employment, ruining relationships.. have you seen any of the court cases?
they use their massive bank accounts and high profile legal teams to sue anyone who speaks out about their practices.usually the people they attack cant afford the legal bills and end up in massive debt. there is a case of Co$ members fabricating a bomb threat. the person was convicted and eventually the members who had framed the person were caught.i welcome you to go to a protest,unmasked. tell them your name, when you get followed to your car and smear campaign begins you wont be so doubtful.
You're describing criminal actions on behalf of the Church and yet claim they can get away with this just because they have money. What a load of shit. The mafia had tons more money than them and somehow they got caught. Also, I've heard of stories of lawyers offering pro bono work as well as anti-Scientology groups offering to pay for legal fees, so there's no excuse of why they wouldn't get caught if they're committing the crimes you describe.
Frankly, this guy whining about how he was imprisoned against his will and yet is doing nothing but picketing instead of contacting law enforcement makes me shake my head. This is a criminal case. An alleged victim doesn't need a lawyer. That's only for civil matters and usually they proceed with the criminal cases before any civil ones are started as it's much easier to get a judgment if the criminal case was won, and even then I'm sure he had people offering him legal aid.
lol, they have been caught. there are quite a few court cases. LOOK THEM UP. dont just accuse me of making shit up, im telling you the description of the cases and you dont bother looking. usually scientology will settle out of court also. they profit from these people, but are not paying tax. people get commison on memberships.. thats profit. people who fight scientology get thier names dragged through the mud. cos members stalking people, as seen in this video. LOOK FOR YOURSELF.
I have looked them up. They're mostly civil losses for the Church. I've yet to hear of any convictions of kidnapping, imprisonment, extortion or any of the other wild accusations. If someone threw me in a prison camp, I would report them to the authorities, not walk around with a sign, talking shit.
You need to understand the difference between for-profit and non-profit. The distinction isn't one makes a profit and the other doesn't.
You are technically right. Thunderf00t and I were wrong about the application of Godwin's law. I should state, instead, that it is an example of Reductio ad Hitlerum.
The fact that CoS is comparable to Nazi's is irrelevant. I am addressing Thunderf00t's specific claim in the last video that the two are comparable because Scientologists have a fixed stare and there is a picture of Hitler staring. Gasp!
If he wants to make a Nazi comparison let it be a real one, not a lame one.
What are you retarded, are you so stunned or oversaturate with media that you payed attention to the pictures? do yourself a favor, Read and listen, that is where the content of the argument by TF is, and where you should judge it, not artistic comparisons based on that evidence. It's like trying to claim argument for evolution is debunk because drawing a picture of the phenomenon doesn't prove it.
I have to disagree with Thunderfoot here, he lacks some historical knowledge on how Germany became a Nazi state. It was FREEDOM of speech that allowed Hitler's views to be expressed to the German people. They (Germany), in a democratic process, voted for him, because he used Jews (and other minorities) as a reason for Germany's decline economically and why they lost world war one. Only after he won the election, was he able to use censorship. Thus why Germany has hate speech laws....
Not to mention that Hitler was initially barred from public speaking in 1925. Yet that did not curb his growing power.
I have to disagree that freedom of speech w as a factor. Free speech is about protecting minority opinions and Hitler's nationalistic and anti-semitic rhetoric was hardly a minority in Germany at that time.
anyone ever read L.RON's novels. They are awful, he says things like nutrition food, water fluid, and air gas in an attempt to sound intelligent. Its really pretty funny. he was one good scam artist though, you have to give him that. He had his own little NAVY for Christ sake.
That scheme applicable to any government. Government control society through various layers of control. Media, Special services like FBI IRS, Economics, mind institutions and prisons and a Police,
History repeats it's self and the Germans were not born Yesterday. and very soon the most powerful one right now is gonna learn it the hard way it's slow but progressing strong. and not by Tom Cruise but by something right under there noise.
I must say. This video hasn't convinced me you didn't break Godwin's law. You compared the Scientologists to Hitler by implying their fixed stare makes them like Hitler because Hitler had a fixed stare in a photo (I am not sure Hitler fixed his stares in general). Your connection was tenuous and exaggerated. In your original video there was no comparison between the camps or brainwashing. This video passes muster - the last one didn't.
the scientolegists themselves are guilty of comparing people to nazis too...
they maintain that it was the psycho analists and psychiatrists and psycologists who ran the death camps of the holocaust and they tend to build big museums to promot this idea,
the true reason is of coarse that this traind profesionals would spot the effect of there brainwashing of members for what it is.
that and dianetics was not well recived by these them when hubbard reelased it.
DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR??? Class action suit against the Church of Scientology. There are thousands and thousands of people who have left the COS. These people have spent millions of dollars. Where is legal council for these thousands? This suit would be worth millions.
on the other side Scientology compares the current german government with a nazi regime and their efforts to ban Scientology to the persecution of jews in the third reich.
Yes, it's funny how the same methods are used over and over to influence what people think and how they are told which group they should dislike. The nazis had the jews, the scientologists have "suppressive persons", the western world of today have for example the nazis and the scientologist. Why do you think you hate these groups so much? ;) It's absolutely the same thing in this "free" world, those in control are simply more insidious.
its pretty strang when tom act like he really gives a rats ass about others when anybody can tell he dont , all he cares about is geting camera time & plublicity for him self & the media eats it like FLY ON SHIT, all you have to do is LOOK at him & LISTEN to him and thats all & you tell me, he is NOTHING but FUCKED UP PRETTY BOY that`s it
yea some ppl i talk to think Scientology is a science centered belief..... other story Tfoot id be careful about making Scientology vids seeing how they are crazy they could like kill u or jail u or something but i hope u do keep making ur great vids....much thx
For the crimes of perverting the word science in scientology, tom cruise and his nut jobs should be introduced to kyclon-b. If this is too harsh and historically insensitve, might I suggest a dual chambered hyperbaric with different pressures, silane, and ambient air. The pressure differential would provide purging and venting capabilities prior to and after the show: the later would simply be self cleaning. Prior to this act, I would like brain scans and samples of these cult members.
I think scientology could lead to another haulocaust, they state that homosexuality is a cureable disease. Too bad there isn't a nasty cult that believes stupidity and ignorance is a cureable disease. I just love how the babeling of a science fiction writer has become a trendy hideout for fallen christians. Its like being dumb and trying to get dumber.
$cientology propaganda clearly states their aim is nothing less than global domination, and in a Co$-run world, human rights are not inalienable birthrights, but must be 'earned' by total, unquestioning obedience and submission to the cult's creed. Any dissenters are villified, character-assassinated and denied all human rights, so any Co$ critics could literally be shot to death and it wouldn't even count as an actual crime in Hubbardsville.
wtf! first of all your claim that thunderf00t and venomfangx are in cahoots is completely baseless, and waving Poe's law around is stupid, does every atheist and theist have to switch sides to get their point across nowadays? If you want Poe's law go watch an EdwardCurrent video
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silentbob36, you should have remained true to your nickname, and stayed silent, bob.
You are obviously naive. You probably think that the slang for naive, "gullible", actually exists in proper dictionaries... ha!
Let us humor you. bob, why do you think VFX chooses such lame arguments? There are "better" ID/CS arguments available than the ones he uses. Here's VFX's peer group: v=DJ3RrqBqk14
Atheist scientist here, so don't read an agenda into what I write...
well, im highly skeptical and an empiricist, so i find it somewhat offensive being called naive, but aside from that i can see you've thought this out well, although i still disagree, mainly because i believe vfx is genuinely too stupid to put forth an intelligent argument
oh and if your going to get into dictionaries, you should know "humor" is an american bastardization of "humour" as it is spelt in "proper" british dictionaries...
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Hi, we are very similar. Pointless arguing about my jokes, which actually damage CS/ID more than your reasoned arguments (by my implying NO ONE can really be as dumb as VFX - of course I know some can).
Pl. look at my Favorites (I stick to US misspellings to save time being told by dumb Americans that I have spelled something wrongly) for what I really care about it - stopping genocide and illegal wars. CS/ID teaching -> religious indoctrination/stupidity inculcation -> BUSH.
Umm... not really gonna contribute to the argument, but the spelling issue... The spelling of English words was not standardized untill the late 18th century. Thus, I think Webster's standardization holds as much water as Johnson's. Either was, mild spelling differences are chump change. We're all basterizing Chaucer's form of English. Languages evolve, and when found on two continents, its not surprising they evolved differently over the last two and a quarter centuries.
I work for a county library. You'd all be amazed at books and dvds concerning Scientology. I wonder if they know they can be read and watched for free.
apparently there is stuff beyond that. might go check out more about scientology, but wasn't impressed with the book dianetics. but eh, might be worth it for some giggles.
Also an interesting point, I was looking up Alfred Rosenberg, the famous Nazi, and I came across something called "Positive Christianity". Basically the Christian faith was redesigned to be more consistent with National Socialism. Hitler would incorporate many of Rosenberg's ideas into his attempts to nazify German Christians. New religions are always very scary because they are spiritual means to a political/social end.
it's very fitting that these people involved in scientology are so easily brainwashed since they are so unable to recognize that is what's going on. i spent 8 months in court ordered bootcamp and i soon came to realize that all bootcamp really is is just brainwash camp. coincidentally, it was a brainwashing to help you fair better in society, so it's not really that big of a deal. but all the same, i was aware of what was going on.
While I agree to what you said in this video, you have to admit you did use Godwin's to explain Godwin's. You used the comparison of media control with Nazis...
My friend is super liberal and thinks that Germany getting rid of Scientology is wrong...I think he's being rather closed minded to the whole situation and he says Scientology as corrupt as any other religion, and has the same rights. What should I do to enlighten him to this?
Explain to him the similarities of $ being a cult in it for the money, and that it's a criminal organization feeding on extortion, and could possibly be seen as a sort of mafia, allthough finding loopholes for them to be legal; by disguising themselves as a religion. Allthough I agree with your friend; it's just as corrupt as any other religion, and is as bad as any others, but $ has some dangerous qualities that state churches in europe does not have... therefor it could and should be banned.
Religion is like a drug to the mind. Even som christians like to say they're high on jesus, and in many cases this is probably right; people have a necessesity, an addiction to believe. $ will take advantage of these people and make them pay large amounts of money to be able to get a greater knowledge into their belief, just to further isolate the people from reality, and making them more and more addicted to the drug that is their religion. ---->
I compare drugs to religion, symbolically mind you, but do I think religion should be outlawed, like drugs? No, I think drugs should be legalized, like religion... but it's still wrong to deal drugs and feed upon the addictions of users... They're like drug dealers that will push harder and harder drugs on people, making them pay more and more money. I think a state should be able to watch over "sales of religions", just like they monitor sales of drugs. Usage however is open for all! :)
But seriously, I think there are lots of people here on youtube that could describe and tell you this much better than me. As I said; I would originally have a similar view to your friend who thinks $ is just as deranged as any other religion, and is just one of the lot :) But $ is like the extreme of extremes, and sell their stuff in a very mafia-ish way, which is why I would call them cynical drug dealers, and not running a simple and friendly cafe selling cannabis cookies. :D
They're not getting rid of scientology, they're getting rid of the church of scientology, the corperation, not the belief. Peopel can believe what they want, but the organisation... As this video states, I think Germany knows a bad thing when it sees it.
Scientology stands for an unconstituional ideology, best represent by the slang term "raw meat" which they call nonbelievers, thus they aren't willing to give them any rights.
Therefore our "Bundesverfassungsschutz" (Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution) has a close eye on those scientologist.
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i was in the rpf, and let me tell you, there is no prisons, or work camp expirience, you do cleaning and small labor to make amends for whatever you were repremanded for. i got nothing to lie about, and i would probably be a scientologist still if i was able to control my ehtics, wich never let me achieve the gains that i could have recieved from it's technology. i wish you happy trails in your persuit of untruths, an x-scientologist.
I was in the RPF, and let me tell you, they are not prisons, or work camp experience, you do cleaning and small labour to make amends for whatever you were reprimanded for. I've got nothing to lie about, and I would probably be a Scientologist still if I was able to control my Ethics, which never let me achieve the gains that I could have received from its technology. I wish you happy trails in your pursuit of untruths,
This made me want to vomit it disgust.
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Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible teaches despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
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1m22s "We are ALL capable of this."
YES!! Fucking YES!!! Fucking YESSS! THANK you for putting that into your video, TF. Sick of this BULLSHIT that somehow Hitler or Charles Manson or ANYONE in prison or "criminals" is somehow "physically mentally different" from those of us not in prison.
Let alone getting into the issue that "criminals" is defined by whatever the law happens to be, which is TOTALLY independent of the actual UTILITY function (badness or goodness) of that crime.
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In the awesome Mike Judge movie "Idiocracy", another element he could have added, that would be consistent with the overall theme of an America that has dumbed down greatly in 500 years, is everyone going around calling each other Hitler and Nazis. "Say, Hitler - please pick up a quart of milk for me on your way back from your Nazi ballet class!" "Ok, Hitler! Will you be done with your Nazi chores by 7pm? Don't forget we gotta catch that Nazi play by 8."
mphello 3 months ago
I don't agree. My mind is very different from yours, clearly. I won't agree with things I don't agree with for ANY reason. I'm hard pressed just to apologise when I don't mean it; even to save a friendship.
In Nazi Germany I would be dead. Dead because I wouldn't go along with it just because the government and media said so. Dead because fuck popular opinion.
That is who I am.
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
I actually recall one of your early videos showing a clip of a creationist talking side by side with clip of Hilter. Granted, it was in the context of propaganda discussion. Just saying :P
But I am definitely a fan of your work. Keep it up!
DenoNomer 7 months ago
Don't call scientologists, Nazis! ....it's insulting to Nazis.....
CRUSH3Rdlux 8 months ago
October 1st is my birthday, damn! Why the fuck does fucking Scientology become tax exempt on my birthday!
A birthday present I would like is to kick tom cruise's ass
TheFlammableGas 8 months ago
The applause at the end is sickening.
uriituw 8 months ago
@fuzzydude64 yes have u even watched the video
GOODGAMER99 9 months ago
Scientology = worse than Nazis?
fuzzydude64 10 months ago
catholics & jews control the media- when jews say "the jewish race is gods chosen people"- is that a racist statement? im confused-why do pple have a religion after all these wars? b/c gov can manipulate them-thats why capitalists support/pay to send religious leaders to tell pple what god (capitalists) wants them to do-is there any war which does not use god to make workers kill women/children workers across a capitalist imaginary borders(ever-changing)?any ideas?
lmollot 11 months ago
I never knew our favorite atheist thunderf00t joined the anon ranks.
Oh lawdy.
danschaoticmind 1 year ago
@danschaoticmind What do you mean? We are *all* Anonymous ;)
DenoNomer 7 months ago 4
notice how the NAZI crowd manage to clap while also doing the NAZI salute?
...MINDFUCK!
KingMatthewDaGreat 1 year ago
Scientology resembles Nazi ideology in that it appeals to a base element in the human mind, that wishes to belong to an "elite" group within the body politic. As with Germans who felt defrauded by the Versailles Treaty, and felt their livelihoods threatened by "foreign" (read "Jewish") interests, wanted to be a part of an ennobling cult, so Scientology preys on emotionally stunted or vulnerable people who feel a similar sense of disenfranchisement.
jonathanmelia 1 year ago
Uhh... That is to say, what? Is that real? Are the members of Scientology tax exempt? Because that makes no sense. I know numerous people in ACTUAL religions that pay taxes... I've gotta go look some things up now.
Tinaddar 1 year ago
every society on earth should have learned from the mistakes of the nazi party not just germany,
TheAntman2006 1 year ago
I'm proud to be German, and proud to learn from our countries past mistakes. Believers in Scientology have been BRAINWASHED and do NOT recognize this, just like in Nazi Germany. Stop the madness!!
DieterT 1 year ago
@DieterT Nazi Germany was the greatest example in history of what people really are.
360cbh 1 year ago
@360cbh its proberbly more accurate to say "what people are really capable of"
TheAntman2006 1 year ago
@TheAntman2006 no what they really are. followers. only hitler was capable of getting them to follow.
360cbh 1 year ago
@TheAntman2006
I agree with this statement.
guyfromdubai 1 year ago
@DieterT To Germany's credit, they see Scientology as it really is: not a religion, but a total sham.
Akira625 1 year ago
And Tom Cruise is wondering why his last movie took a dump. He was thinking it was the sofa antics on the Oprah show. Guess again Tommy boy.
pchtermino1 1 year ago 3
very smart video! Thanks! Notice Miscaviage doesn't pound down that the IRS has accepted Scientology as religion. He's way more into having 'his' money non-taxable...
goofydog2 1 year ago
Anyone noticing that the "thumbs down" are almost identical in number from Scientology vid to Scientology vid?
Smokatronic 1 year ago 2
F.E.M.A could learn from these guys!
bigrobnz 2 years ago
Sorry $cientology, in this economy I cant afford salvation I guess.
If they really cared about getting people "saved" they wouldnt only alow the rich to learn their true insane beliefs.
iamanonwearelegion 2 years ago 4
Yeah, we Germans truly despise scientologists!
I´ve seen them in Hamburg though, thought, they were illegal, must´ve gotten that wrong...
martialme84 2 years ago 5
@martialme84 In USA we got it bad too. Australia, London, its Insane. I guess scince Hubbard was from USA its our fault.
Our bad, sorry world.
Their everywhere, and Hubbard did plan to strategicly control the world.
iamanonwearelegion 2 years ago 5
It is either the NWO or the crazy $cifag$ and their Sea Org para-military outfit overthrowing the NWO. Listen to former Sea Org member Aaron Saxton about this on the Aaronsaxtonspeaks channel.....it is a wake uo call....2010 is the year the cult will never recover. The /i/ killing $cientology..$cientology found out the hard way that they do not control the net. No one does but many shape it and any thing can go virally pandemic any time, so watch out those who wish to control netz and intrawebz.
BaByAnOnYmOuS1 2 years ago
It's definately a different situation (though not any better), but I am reminded of the Twilight Zone episode "the obsolete man" where a dystopian near-future state condemns people in private little courts for not thinking "right." I think the connection is that they both are disgusting ideas and make me cringe at the thought of the future with people like this.
infectingthecrypts 2 years ago
jobbies
gavhenrad 2 years ago
Crumb's "Black Angels" used as background music... nice job.
FiverBeyond 2 years ago
Woah, that DOES make my skin crawl.
I never knew how bad scientology was, I thought it was just a bunch of jerks who wanted to get out of paying some taxes. But Prison Camps!? (I'm sorry Rehabilitation Camps!?) That's just sick.
Xirbtt 2 years ago 3
people who manipulate masses get to be presidents. people who have rational thinking and show us what the world is really like end up on youtube. Tf00t, don't stop here, we need people like you.
Shemassault 2 years ago
@Shemassault
Accidentally thumbed down, my bad =/
akirosette 1 year ago
I don't see why any religion should be tax-exempt.
SaimDI 2 years ago 72
I agree entirely. If Christians want to remove Scientology's TES then they have to ask the question: "How is my delusion any more deserving?"
SirPwn4lot 2 years ago 2
@SirPwn4lot
well luckily or unluckily, the Scientology cult is at an impasse, they require the degraded of freedom of speech for their success, but are at the mercy of powerful religious groups. perhaps when most large organized religions are dead they could be a threat, but organizations like the Vatican would steam roll them if they ever managed the starting stages of their goals.
akirosette 1 year ago
Because they're technically non-profit organizations; just because the church of Scientology and numerous Christian congregations make a lot of money (or seem to) doesn't mean all or even most religion-based organizations in the US do. A lot of organizations that do in fact do quite a bit of legitimate good for their communities and for the world in general would be wiped out or would barely be able to function if they weren't tax-exempt.
PartIrishKevo 2 years ago
@PartIrishKevo
no they generally do not within the church, in the missions they do great good but this is usually tempered by the fact that it is to gain converts, while I would love news of it, I have yet to hear of a church funded charity that was ran secularly and independent of the status of those persons who take part in receiving charity.
akirosette 1 year ago
@SaimDI me too. atleast when they sell stuf and take money from it. but i guess first thing we shuld do is stop religion influensing politics.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
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@SaimDI Because taxes in most modern countries are so high that most religious organizations couldn't possibly operate without being exempt from at least some of the taxes. What that would look like is the government shutting down religion, and as you can probably guess, that can make a lot of people *very* upset. In a democratic country, that translates into votes. A lot of votes, from a highly dedicated base.
Its perfectly understandable when viewed this way, isn't it?
shadowdragon970 1 year ago
@SaimDI i think i shuld. bechose if we tax religion then they have way in to goverment. and if theres anything that is dangerus then mixing religion with politics is that.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
@SaimDI actually, any religious institution paying taxes is a monetary link between church and state, so all religions should be tax-exempt. I don't agree with it, but i can'change what the constitution and the bill of rights say.
WaterCoolerProphet 1 year ago
@SaimDI I actually get that. A whole lot of religions do good things for people. In the name of absurdities, but good things nonetheless. They should prove their ability to do those things before they gain tax exempt status.
dRevan64 5 months ago 3
Why would someone want to be a scientologist?
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
@Beekersqueakers
It seems nice at first, like a swim at the beach. But then you get caught in a rip and drowned.
MechanicalEvolution 2 years ago
ThunderF00t...please run for president. Seriously, you should do it.
PaperSoapy 2 years ago 4
Sadly, I don't think he can; I'm pretty sure he's British, and the Constitution has never been amended to allow people of foriegn birth to be president.
PartIrishKevo 2 years ago
ugh, Scientology REALLY makes my skin crawl
FordPrefect23 2 years ago 30
Ruling: No Foul
spectrophotography 2 years ago 2
rimfa123, in your last post, its amazing how you ignore all previous aspects of the discussion and suddenly jump to one tiny error that gunnermac70 has made in order to shift attention from your teetering POV (that is clearly being shattered) in order to make it 'seem' that all of a sudden because your adversary has made a mistake, that is enough to convince you that everything up to that point was wrong.
Also, the "level" of education you have does not entitle you to deride others.
marzbar619 2 years ago
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"pompus" (spelt wrong). Ahh, even the intellectual ones get it wrong. Just when i thought you were perfect.
rimfa123 2 years ago
Whilst I realise that I am butting into a discussion that seems to have ended a week ago I feel I must say that speaking from my own personal experience at life in general I find the idea that our oppinions are inherent rather than acquired to be somewhat odd if not even demonstrably false. Thus I would be very interested to hear what you base that idea on.
TheHabbadasher 2 years ago
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Again, an un-structured rant with no particuular meaning. I'm guessing you're using primitive psychology methods there trying to imply i'm a fan of TF to get me angry?
rimfa123 2 years ago
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When i am writing in three hour exams, i check my spelling. When i am talking to pompous little children i couldn't give a toss. Pseudo intellect is exactly what i meant. Thundef00t posts his videos for others to enjoy, shame they are hijacked by nitwits like you so you can hide behind them. Strange, using remnants of stuck up Victoriana in your sentences seems as far as you can go? Didn't that BSc teach you any latin? Now if you really want to look clever like your messiah, i suggest you learn.
rimfa123 2 years ago
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This kind of unstructured, anthropomorphisised response is exactly the contribution i expected from one of TF's child followers. Im an A-level student, you silly little boy, don't you dare try to place yourself above me with the use of pseudo-inttelectual attempts at complex sentance structures. If you want to demonstrate reductioadabsurdum and hide behind grammer, then i can play that game, and most probably win, so ditch the bullshit, reconsider your refutation, and reply like an adult.
rimfa123 2 years ago
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"My opinions are innate. People admire TF too much, so myuch that they take evrything he says as gospel. That is my problem, I'd be a bit happier if TF actually gave a toss and replied.
rimfa123 2 years ago
"The human mind forms its opinions of the world based on the information it receives". What, so we are supposed to take your opinion as fact? Fact: there is little or no evidence to provide satisying proof for that opinion. To be honest TF, i am a skeptic, i believe firmly in evolution and place my trust in science, but i am absolutely sick of you spoonfeeding mindless followers your personol opinion as if it were solid fact. Do you realise there is an army of votebots on your side?
rimfa123 2 years ago
You actually have an army of people that view you as some kind of messiah. that harrass other youtubers that don't even care about the issues you discuss. You put forth the impression that religious people are arrogant, for what? Thinking they should humble themselves? Fair enough, show Scientology for what it is, expose creation myths, when i want your opinion, i'll watch your videos, albeit i have a problem with you expressing your opinion as if it were absolute fact.
rimfa123 2 years ago
You have conceived an army of pseudo-poets, scientists, philosophers and human beings. The extreme compassion for concept of free-thought that we both share seems to have left your viewers, many of which take your word as Gospel.
That is my problem.
P.S. I'm expecting little more than 200 thumbs down and some ad hominem insults. TF, i doubt if you will evn bother to read this. "Oh ye of little faith" your disciples would say to me.
rimfa123 2 years ago
@rimfa123
>>implying you are someone important enough to reply to
akirosette 1 year ago
@akirosette You seem to be commenting rather excessively on this video, any reason? And, for the record, clearly, according to TF's infinite wisdom, an ordinary human being with a point to make isn't important to him at all.
rimfa123 1 year ago
@rimfa123
maybe you're too stupid to realize the vast majority reading and listening to this guy are not doing so out of dogmatic beliefs. None of the things science attempts to explain are done so without evidence, they are naturalistic, further more, TF has been more than willing in most of his videos to actually explain his opinions with evidence AND present sources. People treat him with great respect because he gives hours of his life protecting their rights and being informative.
akirosette 1 year ago
@akirosette So hatred of Muslims is based on Empirical evidence? My point was, when people whom respect Thunderf00t then translate that into blindly obliging his opinions with action, that's when it gets dangerous. P.S. Before you accuse me, I have no affiliation with Islam. I don't think accusations of being stupid were relevant, so I'm not going to bother insulting you back...
rimfa123 1 year ago
@rimfa123
No thats based on social beliefs,
Hatred always is
What is impericle is how to approach a religion when it attempts to behave a certain way and influence the government or other people. If we want to live in a free society, you cant have people voting in religious laws and cowing children into converts.
akirosette 1 year ago
@akirosette Tbh I can't actually remember the point I made, I would agree however, that religion should never be allowed to govern the life's of those whom do not believe in it.
rimfa123 1 year ago
@akirosette In all fairness, I've been doing A-levels for the last year, and as a result of being more educated, I have dropped a load a b/s I used to believe.
rimfa123 1 year ago
Someone doesn't want me watching this video, the bar is full and the video is stalling.
Kraigerex1 2 years ago
@Kraigerex1
If you are so stunned by the random chance of this as some kind of divine act of god, maybe you should consider never returning home again as soon as you hit traffic, clearly the gods are trying to tell you something if it would take an extra 30 minutes to return home, and these are not in any way common events with rational explinations
akirosette 1 year ago
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dh234 2 years ago
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Only Hitler would post a video like this. /lame Godwin's Law joke attempt
youvebeenthunderstru 2 years ago
Serious business derp.
lulz4KaneTheThird 2 years ago
yay nazis
Yuppers21 2 years ago
And the sad thing is that some people are willing to make Scientology as the victims and the critics (esp. anons) the "Nazis." Completely ridiculous but some of the hardcore supporters (suspected members) of Scientology use Godwins Law as basis for arguments on YouTube. Excellent video and I think I've learned something new today.
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FLAGGINGthunderf00t 2 years ago
So why isn't Scientology just DESTROYED already.
Bust the cult up.
Shavarnarak 2 years ago
Billion year contract anyone?
SAINTNIKE 2 years ago 2
i had never realised how ruthless scientology was, i always thought of them as a crazy cult, however if you look at; for example the lisa mcpherson case you will realise they are evil and people should never get involved with them
hallersniper 2 years ago 5
W00t for Germany!
...who'd have thunk I'd ever say that...?
defcore108 2 years ago 5
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paulusmagirl 2 years ago
Germany's case on Scientology is pathetic. They have spent months if not years keeping tabs on Scientology over there and have stated that they plan to do shit like overthrow the government and other nonsense like that. The stuff TF quoted is tame to some of the other accusations they've made. In all this time, nothing.
The guy at the beginning claims he was a prisoner. Oh, but he isn't going to the authorities? I don't get it.
kommisar 2 years ago
authorities? scientology has high profile legal teams to fight these claims. prove it! do you have video? no one within the Co$ will testify on your behalf. i suspect germany is building a case of tax fraud and child abuse, there are a few stories of this from ex members. scientology's practice of attacking anyone's life who leaves the church means ex members would rather not be involved in a case. calling their employer and lying, calling their wife or husband and lying. anything to hurt you.
lejink 2 years ago
I don't buy this "Scientology is above the law" bullshit. It's a fucking conspiracy theory. Not even the mafia was this powerful and they killed witnesses. Are you telling me the Church of Scientology is on this level? Please, this is nothing but conspiracy theories and hearsay.
Germany has been "building a case" for over a decade now and they've got nothing. Go read the "Germany vs. Scientology" Wiki entry.
kommisar 2 years ago
"scientology's practice of attacking anyone's life who leaves the church means ex members would rather not be involved in a case. calling their employer and lying, calling their wife or husband and lying. anything to hurt you."
I like how you first say they try to kill dissenters and then you say they call their employers and wives and lie to them. Why the fuck would they need to do that if they're trying to kill someone? Did they threaten to give them a swirly next?
kommisar 2 years ago
when did i say they try to murder people?.. they attack your character, they fabricate cases.. look them up.. these are real cases. how about the case of scientology members keeping an injured member from medical attention until she died. unless you mean this by me saying "attacking anyones life" by that i mean the lawsuits, ruining any employment, ruining relationships.. have you seen any of the court cases?
lejink 2 years ago 2
they use their massive bank accounts and high profile legal teams to sue anyone who speaks out about their practices.usually the people they attack cant afford the legal bills and end up in massive debt. there is a case of Co$ members fabricating a bomb threat. the person was convicted and eventually the members who had framed the person were caught.i welcome you to go to a protest,unmasked. tell them your name, when you get followed to your car and smear campaign begins you wont be so doubtful.
lejink 2 years ago 2
You're describing criminal actions on behalf of the Church and yet claim they can get away with this just because they have money. What a load of shit. The mafia had tons more money than them and somehow they got caught. Also, I've heard of stories of lawyers offering pro bono work as well as anti-Scientology groups offering to pay for legal fees, so there's no excuse of why they wouldn't get caught if they're committing the crimes you describe.
kommisar 2 years ago
Frankly, this guy whining about how he was imprisoned against his will and yet is doing nothing but picketing instead of contacting law enforcement makes me shake my head. This is a criminal case. An alleged victim doesn't need a lawyer. That's only for civil matters and usually they proceed with the criminal cases before any civil ones are started as it's much easier to get a judgment if the criminal case was won, and even then I'm sure he had people offering him legal aid.
kommisar 2 years ago
lol, they have been caught. there are quite a few court cases. LOOK THEM UP. dont just accuse me of making shit up, im telling you the description of the cases and you dont bother looking. usually scientology will settle out of court also. they profit from these people, but are not paying tax. people get commison on memberships.. thats profit. people who fight scientology get thier names dragged through the mud. cos members stalking people, as seen in this video. LOOK FOR YOURSELF.
lejink 2 years ago 2
I have looked them up. They're mostly civil losses for the Church. I've yet to hear of any convictions of kidnapping, imprisonment, extortion or any of the other wild accusations. If someone threw me in a prison camp, I would report them to the authorities, not walk around with a sign, talking shit.
You need to understand the difference between for-profit and non-profit. The distinction isn't one makes a profit and the other doesn't.
kommisar 2 years ago
You are technically right. Thunderf00t and I were wrong about the application of Godwin's law. I should state, instead, that it is an example of Reductio ad Hitlerum.
The fact that CoS is comparable to Nazi's is irrelevant. I am addressing Thunderf00t's specific claim in the last video that the two are comparable because Scientologists have a fixed stare and there is a picture of Hitler staring. Gasp!
If he wants to make a Nazi comparison let it be a real one, not a lame one.
Libratrack 2 years ago
@Libratrack @Libratrack
What are you retarded, are you so stunned or oversaturate with media that you payed attention to the pictures? do yourself a favor, Read and listen, that is where the content of the argument by TF is, and where you should judge it, not artistic comparisons based on that evidence. It's like trying to claim argument for evolution is debunk because drawing a picture of the phenomenon doesn't prove it.
akirosette 1 year ago
I have to disagree with Thunderfoot here, he lacks some historical knowledge on how Germany became a Nazi state. It was FREEDOM of speech that allowed Hitler's views to be expressed to the German people. They (Germany), in a democratic process, voted for him, because he used Jews (and other minorities) as a reason for Germany's decline economically and why they lost world war one. Only after he won the election, was he able to use censorship. Thus why Germany has hate speech laws....
starbucks3954 3 years ago
Uhh Hitler was never elected.
He was appointed by Hindenburg to be chancellor.
Not to mention that Hitler was initially barred from public speaking in 1925. Yet that did not curb his growing power.
I have to disagree that freedom of speech w as a factor. Free speech is about protecting minority opinions and Hitler's nationalistic and anti-semitic rhetoric was hardly a minority in Germany at that time.
booley 2 years ago
anyone ever read L.RON's novels. They are awful, he says things like nutrition food, water fluid, and air gas in an attempt to sound intelligent. Its really pretty funny. he was one good scam artist though, you have to give him that. He had his own little NAVY for Christ sake.
freqmart 3 years ago 4
That scheme applicable to any government. Government control society through various layers of control. Media, Special services like FBI IRS, Economics, mind institutions and prisons and a Police,
jfunf 3 years ago
History repeats it's self and the Germans were not born Yesterday. and very soon the most powerful one right now is gonna learn it the hard way it's slow but progressing strong. and not by Tom Cruise but by something right under there noise.
ShinWR1 3 years ago
I must say. This video hasn't convinced me you didn't break Godwin's law. You compared the Scientologists to Hitler by implying their fixed stare makes them like Hitler because Hitler had a fixed stare in a photo (I am not sure Hitler fixed his stares in general). Your connection was tenuous and exaggerated. In your original video there was no comparison between the camps or brainwashing. This video passes muster - the last one didn't.
Libratrack 3 years ago
the scientolegists themselves are guilty of comparing people to nazis too...
they maintain that it was the psycho analists and psychiatrists and psycologists who ran the death camps of the holocaust and they tend to build big museums to promot this idea,
the true reason is of coarse that this traind profesionals would spot the effect of there brainwashing of members for what it is.
that and dianetics was not well recived by these them when hubbard reelased it.
so he migth be a bit bitter too
ZerqTM 3 years ago
holy shit i've really only hought of scientology as a joke, but it really is dangerous.
JimmytheWalrus 3 years ago 30
I know the difference between Demons and Scientology and frankly I would rather trust a Demon
argetfalcon 3 years ago 5
sp ftw
duck7759 3 years ago
Wish I lived in Germany, they don't have their head up their ass.
TalesAreTold 3 years ago 8
They do know all about dangerous cults after all. The people of the country did fall prey to one a generation or two back.
C0mm1ssar 3 years ago 2
"If there's anyone that can spot an evil fanatical movement before it can begin it's the Germans"
~The Root of All Evil
JamesJimRaynor 3 years ago 2
DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR??? Class action suit against the Church of Scientology. There are thousands and thousands of people who have left the COS. These people have spent millions of dollars. Where is legal council for these thousands? This suit would be worth millions.
998987987698765 3 years ago 3
We love you, thunderf00t!
sonykroket 3 years ago 7
great vid
stfu76 3 years ago 2
this 1984ish in proportions!
crayonlookingbrush 3 years ago
It's been said "If anyone knows about potentially dangerous and out of control movements it's the germans."
LastOptionPils 3 years ago 5
on the other side Scientology compares the current german government with a nazi regime and their efforts to ban Scientology to the persecution of jews in the third reich.
exfalsoquodlibet 3 years ago
Totally agree, I don't think equating Scientology with Naziism is that far off - not a case of Godwin's law.
aogilmor 3 years ago
control the media control the mind
killqboyz 3 years ago 4
control religion, control the people
jassi4010709 3 years ago 6
control robocop control the cri.. ops.. im doing it wrong
FusionNinjin 3 years ago 7
Lol.
TalesAreTold 3 years ago
Yes, it's funny how the same methods are used over and over to influence what people think and how they are told which group they should dislike. The nazis had the jews, the scientologists have "suppressive persons", the western world of today have for example the nazis and the scientologist. Why do you think you hate these groups so much? ;) It's absolutely the same thing in this "free" world, those in control are simply more insidious.
slauge 3 years ago
its pretty strang when tom act like he really gives a rats ass about others when anybody can tell he dont , all he cares about is geting camera time & plublicity for him self & the media eats it like FLY ON SHIT, all you have to do is LOOK at him & LISTEN to him and thats all & you tell me, he is NOTHING but FUCKED UP PRETTY BOY that`s it
comton7000 3 years ago
yea some ppl i talk to think Scientology is a science centered belief..... other story Tfoot id be careful about making Scientology vids seeing how they are crazy they could like kill u or jail u or something but i hope u do keep making ur great vids....much thx
tomdamho 3 years ago
For the crimes of perverting the word science in scientology, tom cruise and his nut jobs should be introduced to kyclon-b. If this is too harsh and historically insensitve, might I suggest a dual chambered hyperbaric with different pressures, silane, and ambient air. The pressure differential would provide purging and venting capabilities prior to and after the show: the later would simply be self cleaning. Prior to this act, I would like brain scans and samples of these cult members.
xavierartorivs 3 years ago
it's so true. there's nothing wrong with comparing the "church" of scientology's ideals to those of nazi germany. these people are sick.
cottonear 3 years ago 3
VERY well done.
Nyx9 3 years ago
Very interesting and a just estimation of the church of Nonsensology.
Comparison with Hitlerite ideology and cult is very appropiate.
Thanks.
Stay safe.
BK
Bkorczak 3 years ago 3
I think scientology could lead to another haulocaust, they state that homosexuality is a cureable disease. Too bad there isn't a nasty cult that believes stupidity and ignorance is a cureable disease. I just love how the babeling of a science fiction writer has become a trendy hideout for fallen christians. Its like being dumb and trying to get dumber.
Matty6900 3 years ago 3
How do you get screen shots of your computer like that?
GenerationXeroFilms 3 years ago
Freedom of thought will be a contradiction if one is allowed to think that everyone else should think like him.
Abdulmelik2007 3 years ago 2
david miscavige probably hides a picture of adolf in his closet to worship every night before he goes to bed.
jnycnuk 3 years ago 3
$cientology propaganda clearly states their aim is nothing less than global domination, and in a Co$-run world, human rights are not inalienable birthrights, but must be 'earned' by total, unquestioning obedience and submission to the cult's creed. Any dissenters are villified, character-assassinated and denied all human rights, so any Co$ critics could literally be shot to death and it wouldn't even count as an actual crime in Hubbardsville.
alien8ted 3 years ago 12
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Thunderf00t = VenomFangX
VenomFangX is the strawman. ;D
VenomFangX is the same guy, or on the same team, as Thunderf00t. Both evolutionists.
Purpose of the spoof: Presumably, a demonstration of Poe's Law at work.
So obvious, but no comments appear saying this.
Is this because-
^ "they" are deleting them (so if mine disappears... lol), or
^ the YouTube viewing public is TRULY that DUMB (well, AmeriKKKa elected Dumbya amn invaded Iraq, so I guess it is credible).
:L:O:L anyway
GurnSi 3 years ago
wtf! first of all your claim that thunderf00t and venomfangx are in cahoots is completely baseless, and waving Poe's law around is stupid, does every atheist and theist have to switch sides to get their point across nowadays? If you want Poe's law go watch an EdwardCurrent video
silentbob36 3 years ago 10
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silentbob36, you should have remained true to your nickname, and stayed silent, bob.
You are obviously naive. You probably think that the slang for naive, "gullible", actually exists in proper dictionaries... ha!
Let us humor you. bob, why do you think VFX chooses such lame arguments? There are "better" ID/CS arguments available than the ones he uses. Here's VFX's peer group: v=DJ3RrqBqk14
Atheist scientist here, so don't read an agenda into what I write...
GurnSi 3 years ago
well, im highly skeptical and an empiricist, so i find it somewhat offensive being called naive, but aside from that i can see you've thought this out well, although i still disagree, mainly because i believe vfx is genuinely too stupid to put forth an intelligent argument
oh and if your going to get into dictionaries, you should know "humor" is an american bastardization of "humour" as it is spelt in "proper" british dictionaries...
silentbob36 3 years ago 10
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Hi, we are very similar. Pointless arguing about my jokes, which actually damage CS/ID more than your reasoned arguments (by my implying NO ONE can really be as dumb as VFX - of course I know some can).
Pl. look at my Favorites (I stick to US misspellings to save time being told by dumb Americans that I have spelled something wrongly) for what I really care about it - stopping genocide and illegal wars. CS/ID teaching -> religious indoctrination/stupidity inculcation -> BUSH.
Help there, pl.!
GurnSi 3 years ago
Umm... not really gonna contribute to the argument, but the spelling issue... The spelling of English words was not standardized untill the late 18th century. Thus, I think Webster's standardization holds as much water as Johnson's. Either was, mild spelling differences are chump change. We're all basterizing Chaucer's form of English. Languages evolve, and when found on two continents, its not surprising they evolved differently over the last two and a quarter centuries.
100percentninja 3 years ago 2
I work for a county library. You'd all be amazed at books and dvds concerning Scientology. I wonder if they know they can be read and watched for free.
katey1dog 3 years ago
apparently there is stuff beyond that. might go check out more about scientology, but wasn't impressed with the book dianetics. but eh, might be worth it for some giggles.
mistereveready 3 years ago
You can download the entire bridge for free online. Look for it on torrent.
soulinite 3 years ago
i'm guessing scientology is probably pissed about that. thx.
mistereveready 3 years ago 3
LOL, no one can stop the free spread of information online.
Hail Xenu!
soulinite 3 years ago
Ironic comment is ironic.
KaizaRoll 3 years ago
Joseph Goebles would be proud of Scientology.
Also an interesting point, I was looking up Alfred Rosenberg, the famous Nazi, and I came across something called "Positive Christianity". Basically the Christian faith was redesigned to be more consistent with National Socialism. Hitler would incorporate many of Rosenberg's ideas into his attempts to nazify German Christians. New religions are always very scary because they are spiritual means to a political/social end.
Albinoceros 3 years ago 3
lol
dead on TFoot
jscience 3 years ago 2
it's very fitting that these people involved in scientology are so easily brainwashed since they are so unable to recognize that is what's going on. i spent 8 months in court ordered bootcamp and i soon came to realize that all bootcamp really is is just brainwash camp. coincidentally, it was a brainwashing to help you fair better in society, so it's not really that big of a deal. but all the same, i was aware of what was going on.
keeter24 3 years ago 2
scientology sounds like a real life "1984" "THE RPF IS WHAT WE MAKE IT" "THE RPF IS WHERE WE MAKE IT"
Remind you anything?
keeter24 3 years ago 4
Very Important in today's world.
We absolutely have to understand how media manipulates us.
Listening to Tom Cruise, it's hard to believe someone could be so deluded.
Scientology prisons? Sounds like a bizzare satire.
newbetterandhappy 3 years ago 2
While I agree to what you said in this video, you have to admit you did use Godwin's to explain Godwin's. You used the comparison of media control with Nazis...
:p Just pointing it out
SpikeJonze 3 years ago
My friend is super liberal and thinks that Germany getting rid of Scientology is wrong...I think he's being rather closed minded to the whole situation and he says Scientology as corrupt as any other religion, and has the same rights. What should I do to enlighten him to this?
cornnugget 3 years ago
Explain to him the similarities of $ being a cult in it for the money, and that it's a criminal organization feeding on extortion, and could possibly be seen as a sort of mafia, allthough finding loopholes for them to be legal; by disguising themselves as a religion. Allthough I agree with your friend; it's just as corrupt as any other religion, and is as bad as any others, but $ has some dangerous qualities that state churches in europe does not have... therefor it could and should be banned.
dradeel 3 years ago
Thanks, but could you list some examples of those dangerous qualities? I can think of a couple but I can never explain them well.
cornnugget 3 years ago
Religion is like a drug to the mind. Even som christians like to say they're high on jesus, and in many cases this is probably right; people have a necessesity, an addiction to believe. $ will take advantage of these people and make them pay large amounts of money to be able to get a greater knowledge into their belief, just to further isolate the people from reality, and making them more and more addicted to the drug that is their religion. ---->
dradeel 3 years ago
I compare drugs to religion, symbolically mind you, but do I think religion should be outlawed, like drugs? No, I think drugs should be legalized, like religion... but it's still wrong to deal drugs and feed upon the addictions of users... They're like drug dealers that will push harder and harder drugs on people, making them pay more and more money. I think a state should be able to watch over "sales of religions", just like they monitor sales of drugs. Usage however is open for all! :)
dradeel 3 years ago 2
But seriously, I think there are lots of people here on youtube that could describe and tell you this much better than me. As I said; I would originally have a similar view to your friend who thinks $ is just as deranged as any other religion, and is just one of the lot :) But $ is like the extreme of extremes, and sell their stuff in a very mafia-ish way, which is why I would call them cynical drug dealers, and not running a simple and friendly cafe selling cannabis cookies. :D
dradeel 3 years ago
They're not getting rid of scientology, they're getting rid of the church of scientology, the corperation, not the belief. Peopel can believe what they want, but the organisation... As this video states, I think Germany knows a bad thing when it sees it.
stukajunker88 3 years ago 6
Scientology stands for an unconstituional ideology, best represent by the slang term "raw meat" which they call nonbelievers, thus they aren't willing to give them any rights.
Therefore our "Bundesverfassungsschutz" (Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution) has a close eye on those scientologist.
JoacinoDaGona 3 years ago
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i was in the rpf, and let me tell you, there is no prisons, or work camp expirience, you do cleaning and small labor to make amends for whatever you were repremanded for. i got nothing to lie about, and i would probably be a scientologist still if i was able to control my ehtics, wich never let me achieve the gains that i could have recieved from it's technology. i wish you happy trails in your persuit of untruths, an x-scientologist.
playb00y360 3 years ago
I was in the RPF, and let me tell you, they are not prisons, or work camp experience, you do cleaning and small labour to make amends for whatever you were reprimanded for. I've got nothing to lie about, and I would probably be a Scientologist still if I was able to control my Ethics, which never let me achieve the gains that I could have received from its technology. I wish you happy trails in your pursuit of untruths,
An ex-scientologist.
Fixed for atrocious grammar, but still bull.
ForeverEternity0 3 years ago