Lastly, I'm confused: you're concerned that the end times are here and yet you're also worried about what kind of world we're leaving for the next generation? If the end times are here, what generation is to follow?
@Isignorancebliss It's not really the endtimes, it's more like the transition-times. Humankind must now remember that there is a spiritual side to things, too. In other words there are spiritual consequences to actions taken in the physical realm. Just like the Afghanistan war. Not only does it effect the U.S. economy, but it also influences the spiritual realm. Which has unforeseen consequences for the economy. So, it really is about "new beginnings." What about the kids?
@jsmythib Evolution goes forward, not backward. They evolved to live on the sea ice, that's it. When humans change the climate, the earth becomes sick and could die, because it too is a living being in a great big way. It's about what kind of world are we leaving to the future generations, dead or alive!
@jimbonumber9 There is no real sense of forward or backward in evolution like you are using it. If some sort of variation exists in the gene pool that allows some to survive better on land than others and land becomes the only place for them to survive, then those genes will become more frequent in the gene pool. Over time this could lead them to "evolve" to live on land. There are lizards (and others) who live only in dark caves who have lost there eyes completely. (see next post)
Losing your eyes certainly doesn't sound like forward movement, but it's actually to the organisms benefit to not have eyes as they're useless anyway and prone to infection.
The real reason we should be concerned with the plight of the walrus and other animals is that they don't have time to cope with the current changes. The fastest time for a "new" species to evolve that I've yet heard of was an Acacia-related tree and that took ~4000 years (I'd source if I could recall off hand).
@Isignorancebliss Sure there is, everything evolves forward. The Universe is expanding outward at an ever increasing rate of speed. The movement of time in general goes forward, not backward. The "Creator" is always adding.
"Cosmic Evolution" has nothing to do with biological evolution. Evolution is used in a different sense meaning just change when using it in terms of the cosmos or ideas. Biological evolution is a scientific theory, "cosmic evolution" is an expression. The commenter above is correct in his statement on evolution. "the creator is always adding" what about our loss of tails? Our shrinking and useless veriform appendix? As an aside, the concept of a creator is absurd.
@KeinenGott Without "Cosmic Evolution" there would be no biological evolution. New stars are constantly being formed, while old stars are dying out. These are observable happenings, so "Cosmic Evolution" is also scientific theory. It's called astronomy or astrophysics. Evolution is change or a way of adding to the things that have come before. Even Einstein said there was a "Creator." Remember, you can't get something out of nothing. The "Creator" is more real than you can imagine!
Of course the universe must exist for life to exist, and you missed my point utterly on my remark about cosmic evolution. I was merely stating that evolution in that term means something entirely different than differential success rate of genes. Which is obvious. You are taking his quote entirely out of context as did people in the days that he said it. He was a pantheist, using the word "god" as a metaphor for the universe. Look up his response to that quote about god and dice.
@KeinenGott No, I'm not, you are. Besides, I'm just the messenger and as such, I'm just delivering the message. The messenger doesn't have to "argue" about what is in the message. So, the message has been delivered. The world is not flat, it is round. Peace.
Lastly, I'm confused: you're concerned that the end times are here and yet you're also worried about what kind of world we're leaving for the next generation? If the end times are here, what generation is to follow?
Isignorancebliss 1 year ago
@Isignorancebliss It's not really the endtimes, it's more like the transition-times. Humankind must now remember that there is a spiritual side to things, too. In other words there are spiritual consequences to actions taken in the physical realm. Just like the Afghanistan war. Not only does it effect the U.S. economy, but it also influences the spiritual realm. Which has unforeseen consequences for the economy. So, it really is about "new beginnings." What about the kids?
jimbonumber9 1 year ago
I wonder what they will look like after they evolve to live on land!
jsmythib 1 year ago
@jsmythib Evolution goes forward, not backward. They evolved to live on the sea ice, that's it. When humans change the climate, the earth becomes sick and could die, because it too is a living being in a great big way. It's about what kind of world are we leaving to the future generations, dead or alive!
jimbonumber9 1 year ago
@jimbonumber9 There is no real sense of forward or backward in evolution like you are using it. If some sort of variation exists in the gene pool that allows some to survive better on land than others and land becomes the only place for them to survive, then those genes will become more frequent in the gene pool. Over time this could lead them to "evolve" to live on land. There are lizards (and others) who live only in dark caves who have lost there eyes completely. (see next post)
Isignorancebliss 1 year ago
Losing your eyes certainly doesn't sound like forward movement, but it's actually to the organisms benefit to not have eyes as they're useless anyway and prone to infection.
The real reason we should be concerned with the plight of the walrus and other animals is that they don't have time to cope with the current changes. The fastest time for a "new" species to evolve that I've yet heard of was an Acacia-related tree and that took ~4000 years (I'd source if I could recall off hand).
Isignorancebliss 1 year ago
@Isignorancebliss Sure there is, everything evolves forward. The Universe is expanding outward at an ever increasing rate of speed. The movement of time in general goes forward, not backward. The "Creator" is always adding.
jimbonumber9 1 year ago
@jimbonumber9
"Cosmic Evolution" has nothing to do with biological evolution. Evolution is used in a different sense meaning just change when using it in terms of the cosmos or ideas. Biological evolution is a scientific theory, "cosmic evolution" is an expression. The commenter above is correct in his statement on evolution. "the creator is always adding" what about our loss of tails? Our shrinking and useless veriform appendix? As an aside, the concept of a creator is absurd.
KeinenGott 1 year ago
@KeinenGott Without "Cosmic Evolution" there would be no biological evolution. New stars are constantly being formed, while old stars are dying out. These are observable happenings, so "Cosmic Evolution" is also scientific theory. It's called astronomy or astrophysics. Evolution is change or a way of adding to the things that have come before. Even Einstein said there was a "Creator." Remember, you can't get something out of nothing. The "Creator" is more real than you can imagine!
jimbonumber9 1 year ago
@jimbonumber9
Of course the universe must exist for life to exist, and you missed my point utterly on my remark about cosmic evolution. I was merely stating that evolution in that term means something entirely different than differential success rate of genes. Which is obvious. You are taking his quote entirely out of context as did people in the days that he said it. He was a pantheist, using the word "god" as a metaphor for the universe. Look up his response to that quote about god and dice.
KeinenGott 1 year ago
@KeinenGott No, I'm not, you are. Besides, I'm just the messenger and as such, I'm just delivering the message. The messenger doesn't have to "argue" about what is in the message. So, the message has been delivered. The world is not flat, it is round. Peace.
jimbonumber9 1 year ago
Where is the link to this story. ?
wicapis 1 year ago
@wicapis "Thousands of walruses flee melting sea ice for shore@msnbc.com/us_news-environment
jimbonumber9 1 year ago
@jimbonumber9 Thank you.
wicapis 1 year ago
less ice more space so what.....
zuklonbe 1 year ago
why does everyone laugh at Gore?
rmpbklyn 1 year ago