Debate: Sam Shamoun -VS- SwordOfAllah/Rex *Good Quality* 1/6

[soniameh]

Why do muslims have nicks like swordofallah ,ak47ofallah, destroyer of allah,

[ManInControI]

Islam was thought up by Muhammad for Muhammad. It elevated him from common warlord murderer, rapist and thief. To God like status amongst the greedy and wicked who flocked to HIS religion, with promises of war booty in this life and unlimited sex in the next

Muhammad was if you like the Islamic trinity...Prophet, Gabriel and Allah all in one; cause it all came from his sick devious mind

[9999rosebud]

Jesus is the God of Abraham. In Genesis 18:1,2-33 JESUS APPEARED as a GODMAN to Abram. JESUS ATE & WALK with Abram & told Sarah his wife personally that she will have a baby (Isaac). Genesis 17:1-27 JESUS APPEARED again to Abram, & said, "I AM GOD ALMIGHTY", verse 3 Abram fell face down & WORSHIP HIM. Jesus made a covenant with him, change his name to ABRAHAM. JESUS said in John 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it & was GLAD". Scripture is clear.

[ThaRealBomb]

@firearm18

Hypocrite. You Christians are the pagans because you worship 3 different things, one of them even being a human! Think to yourself for a second just how stupid your religion sounds. The Jews have more self-respect because they're not as naive and gullible as you 'tranny-tea' believers. You can't even prove Islam is a pagan religion because the whole world knows that we believe in the oneness of God.

[31MegaMike]

@pmoyer50 so what kind of a fruit are the christians then?

[31MegaMike]

@pmoyer50 i did not asked what it means i asked what kind of fruit are the christians?

[31MegaMike]

@pmoyer50 prove it to me if you are truthful. tell me what jesus pbuh told you about Islam then i will tell you what jesus pbuh said about christians who distorted his pure teachings in worshiping the true God.

[pmoyer50]

@31MegaMike : Jesus was of God but . . . . .

[FantaSG]

@ThaRealBomb

Whats your fucking problem

if somebody believes in 1 god 3 gods 3 mil gods

[ThaRealBomb]

@FantaSG Let people worship as many gods as they want, I don't care. However, what I can't stand is people worshipping multiple gods and then pretending that they only worship one. It is hypocrisy, heresy and blasphemy combined.

[FantaSG]

@ThaRealBomb

Answer this question ok..

Does God(The One) hafe the power to create demi-gods yes/no?

If you say yes, then you are answering your own question.

If you say no, then my friend...you dont know GOD(only pretending to be a believer)

[SPNWnewswire]

The "Holy Spirit" at least in the Hebrew Scripture is NOT a person and NO Jew would EVER interpret its actions other than metaphorically (in many verses we read that G-d poured out His spirit and G-d poured out his blessing, so is there a personage called the Blessing as well?). Sam is assuming VERY MUCH by reading these translated (non-Hebrew) scriptures. But regardless of the nature of G-d, praying to intermediaries (after the reception of the Ten Commandments) clearly violates the First!

[firearm18]

KeithTruth is right. Allah is a pagan deity! Thumbs up!

[psalm964]

Dueteronomy 10:21 He is your praise.He is your God,who has done for you these great and terrifying things that your eyes have seen.-----we know who our God is! We know He is real,and our eyes have seen the great things He has done! It isn't just things in the bible we read! God is doing great and marvelous things today through the lives of His children!

[MrPiscario]

When ever can the Christians prove the concept of Trinity beyond any doubt?!!!!!!!!!!!

TRINITY is one of the basic concept of christianity, so you must be able to prove it !!!!

[FreeInChrist777]

@MrPiscario Yes we can prove that the Trinity beyond doubt, can you disprove the Trinity beyond doubt? The Quran says that Allah is a LEG, now is the Leg inside of outside of God's creation? What does Allah do with a LEG, Play Soccer? Muslims will complain about the trinity when their own God is a leg, and they worship a Leg, unbelievable!

[mrranapaki]

@FreeInChrist777 give the reference where do u get this from ur church that have only one thing to do to promote hatred about islam.....

[LIVERLADD]

What I notice is that muslim debaters use atheist arguments to try to disprove Jesus is God? Yet one can easily apply these same points against the Koran.

[wearediffrent]

Sam Shamoun is an Illuminati member

[alinodu93]

@wearediffrent

Hahahaha If Sam is illuminati i convert into a Hindu.

[Putnis1]

Debates with muslims are a waste of time.  Satan has a stronghold, it as lead the weak away from God, therefore only God can bring them back. Many muslims are leaving islam and find love and truth through Jesus, without the aid of christians. Jesus are visiting muslim as dreams and visions, that is direct and pure. I say leave them to God.

[hannahr77]

@Putnis1

yeah but now there will no excuse on judgment-day and maybe just maybe some will listen and repent and turn to CHRIST

[jihhn]

@hannahr77

We dont have to repent or turn to Christ. Jesus died for all Sins. That means he also died for me to not belive in his forged divinity or the fact that god Died.

I think you will be punished for believing such things... I am already saved by your Christ....

[hannahr77]

@jihhn

Plz read and learn

John 3

16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

What does it say believe in JESUS the SON of GOD

[jihhn]

@Putnis1

christians need dreams and visions. Muslim need rational thinking. That's why islam will always beat christianity....

We dont need dreams, visions, miracles oh people of little faith... thats what Jesus told us....

[hannahr77]

@jihhn

hmm did JESUS tell you oh ppl of little faith well then is must be true, and of course you ppl don't need to be healed from your diseases you will of course rather stay sick, typically islam arrogance 

[candiceevans1]

@jihhn WHAT IN THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING AB...We "need" dreams and visions? We only need Jesus,,,,the proof of Islam being false is in the fruits it bears. Look around the world. Where Islam is oppression, murder, people persecuted, war, famine, living like the stone age, no common sense, blowing up buildings, suicide bombers, in the west, political strong arming, lies, deceit, honor killing, forced marriage, muta, u are talak talak talak

[jihhn]

Who died on the cross ?

God or a Man?

[hannahr77]

@jihhn

both died on the cross 

[jihhn]

@hannahr77

Can God Die ???-)

[hannahr77]

@jihhn

Did JESUS die YES HE did, where HE resurrected YES, is HE alive in HEAVEN YES, will HE come again YES, is muhammad a true prophet NO, is ill-allah god NO

[jihhn]

@hannahr77

No he did not... And Allah is God.

Any statement without proof can be rejected without proof....

[hannahr77]

@jihhn

Hmm this goes both ways my dear lost friend, you can't prove that your ill-allah is god no proof at all whereas we have proof from out side sources you don't, according the standard of GOD the real GOD muhammad couldn’t had been a prophet, never so what does that make your ill-allah? FAKE

[jackzon007]

@jihhn whats proof u have spirit,did u see it?still u believe on it, by identity u r one to others but u r two entities , ur physical body and spirit. while u die your body and spirit get separate and they can exist separately until day of judgement. if such a very very small creation of god can have two in one how can you tell God cannot be Trinity.If u r not able to explain how ur spirit & body coexist how can u define GOD with u r tiny brain & insist that to be provable?

[psalm964]

@jackzon007 We may not be able to see the Holy Spirit,but we can feel him in our hearts-even to our inmost soul.We see the change He brings in our lives as believers.Oh,yes.He is real indeed,and of that there is NO doubt! =)

[FollowingChrist44]

Praise Jesus Christ... The Creator of Heaven and Earth

[lassiecox]

read malaki, toss the rest

[lassiecox]

meet with me and i will show you the way of what christ left us with---spirit of truth-------------------------­----------------muhammad said to protect and fight for christians, the jews invaded his realm and wrote lies in the koran. 600 years after christ he was visited by the spirit of truth. Why would our creator speak through a vile king? david? study chronological timeline of christianity, and indeed all things

[lassiecox]

debate someone like me and your life will be changed forever and you may actually have a chance to find truth. The words of man. transgenic lies-------lose your chanting, stop living in a world of kings whose preliterate scribes wrote to perpetuate his tribe, all your statements are without valid premise, you are suffering from literary hypnosis, you believe in lies.

[forzaitalia2]

yes yes....we are satan....oh, wait it was muhammad who said every one is touched by Satan at birth including himself apart from JESUS CHRIST!!!

i love how the koran proves Jesus is God

[jetmat1979]

Hey...italian boy..hahaha..meet u here. Common, please don't talk about christ while u enjoy slurping that pope's dick! Muahahaha!!

[SCSA11]

First of all that is a Hadith, not in the Quran.

Secondly the Hadith is fake.

Thirdly none is touched by Satan at birth.

Fourth even if Jesus was the only person not to be touched by Satan at birth, that would still not make him God at all.

[RizwanKhan101]

@forzaitalia2

No it does not...

[forzaitalia2]

@RizwanKhan101

yes it does. just as it confirms Christ to be eternal, the messiah and the judge at the end of days and much...much more

[RizwanKhan101]

@forzaitalia2

Hmm how?

[followerofjesus1984]

@RizwanKhan101 it says jesus is the word and spirit of allah, mean he is eternal just as our bible says

[jihhn]

@forzaitalia2

actually that's not from the Quran, that's an Hadith and there is no Jesus in it...

He never said Jesus was not...

We muslim BELIEVE he is sinless but that's just a believe.

Jesus was tempted in the bible. He refused to help a Gentile Woman etc etc...

[TheMrBlackCrow]

you guys are great..keep it up..May the LORD grant you even more wisdom and boldness..all my prayers to you and yours

[forzaitalia2]

we want to stone you, not for any good work you did, but for blasphemy because you claim to be God.

Idiot muslims!

[stupaod]

I believe the Father and Son are one through the Holy Spirit

The Spirit of the Father manifested as a man(fully God in Spirit and fully man in flesh)

[stupaod]

9However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.

10If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

[christ4all2allmyall]

The arabic christians when used term ALLAH were associating it with the Old & New testament God. The muslim Allah did not exist before Mohammad came.

Before Mohammad there was Allah associated with the Hanifs, this linked to one God that Abraham supposed to follow at kaaba.

The other is Allah associated with the 360 odd gods.

Mohammad almost certainly embraced the Hanifite Allah and adopted his own concepts.

history, archaeology,koran, logic, hadith n bible show this.

[IgnatiusBenedictus]

@christ4all2allmyall The name "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for "God" just like the Hebrew word for God is "Ellah". That's it. So when a Muslim says Allah, he's saying God not a pagan god or anything else. Just like when Jew says Ellah, he's saying God. Catholic and Orthodox Christian Arabs say Allah when talking about God.

[KeithTruth]

@IgnatiusBenedictus I'm sorry thats incorrect. Allah was unique title the chief pagan deity of the arabs who was also baal. Muhamamd adopted this god allah and then it became the generic term for god later by subsequent arab genertions of all religions. I made a video series against a muslim named jibreelk on this issue and thoroughly documented this. It can be a generic word for God now, but originally it was a pagan deity. Check it out.

[IgnatiusBenedictus]

@KeithTruth Um no. Check out the Arabic language, which hasn't changed for thousands of years. The Arabic letters for Allah mean God just like the sister Semitic language, Hebrew letters form Ellah mean God. Aleph, Lamed, Lamed, He.

[IgnatiusBenedictus]

@KeithTruth The whole pagan deity thing is a fundamentalist protestant belief recently made up and has been propagated by famous Fundy preachers. Catholic and Orthodox ARAB Christians have been calling God "Allah" long before any Muslim or Mohammed show up on the scene. You know why??? It's because that's the Arabic language! Get off the Protestant Fundy kool-aid and venture with reason.

[pmoyer50]

@christ4all2allmyall: Amen.

[themessageofthebible]

Allah is the arabic name for god. to say muhammed took this god nd made him one is a weak argument cos i can say that the pagans took this word for a moon god. arabs use allah and hebrews use elohim.

[TheSoundKage]

Allah doesn't mean God, ilah means God, and Elohim doesn't mean God, It means Holy One.

[CastusPeregrinus]

Allah and Elohim are not names, they are specific titles given to vague deities and were even used as veils to cover up the name of one true Creator.

"v'sar'tem va'avad'tem ELOHIM acheirim v'hish'tachavitem lahem"

^^This is taken directly from the Hebrew Sh'ma. It means:

"Beware, lest your heart be deceived

and you turn and serve other GODS and worship them."

[CastusPeregrinus]

Read the Paleo Hebrew and the Septuagint Greek scrolls. They both use the name YAHUWAH. There IS no Arabic name for the Creator. You're resting in fatal error, my friend.

Read Hosea 2:16 "And it shall be at that day, saith the Lord YAHUWAH, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more BAALI."

[CastusPeregrinus]

Baali means "lord" and despite the meaning of the title, Yahuwah criticizes his people for using the name of a false god to address his name. Read Jeremiah 23:27 "Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for BAAL."

[CastusPeregrinus]

Allah means "god" in Arabic and has close ties with the name Allaat, a false god of the pagan Arabs. If you say Allah and Elohim, then you can be referring any god. Jewish scribes have been keeping the same tradition for years by trying to hide Yahuwah's true name. Remember Joel 2:32. Whosoever shall call on the NAME of the Lord shall be saved.

[Prandtl1904]

CastusPeregrinus, you're absolutely wrong in your claims.

Allah does not mean "god" in Arabic. it means "THE ONLY GOD". it's the only noun in arabic that does not have a gender, cannot be plural, and you can't add any suffix or prefix to it. even arabic bible refer to God as Allah.

the arabic word for "god" is elah, which is a different word than Allah. as in "La elah ela Allah" = "no god but THE GOD" the muslim testimony of faith.

Get your facts right before making fun of yourself

[CastusPeregrinus]

Baalim = Baal

Allah = Allaat

Get this right before putting things in your mouth you shouldn't chew on, flying bimbo. Read Hosea 2 again. He removed the name of Baalim and Baali from the mouth of Ammi and Ruhamah which were veils that caused them to forget His name. That's the whole context of Jeremiah 23:27 and Hosea 2:16-17. The prophet Elijah had to deal with over 400 false prophets that rested in the same fatal error.

[CastusPeregrinus]

They cried to Baal and even burned incense to that false name and still received no answer.

Haha, "God"? Which God? Baal? Satan? Astaroth? Thor? Andromalius? Pazuzu? Allaat? Zeus? Casandra Smith?

Your denotation of "God" is as cloudy as any Free Masonist would expound their side of the theology. The muslim testimony of faith: "We forgot His name so we're just gonna borrow some inexplicit epithet from the pagan Arabs and call it the 'one true god.'"

[CastusPeregrinus]

Same garbage moniker that was used with Baal and Baalim, you're no distinct from any of these forgetful pantheists.

Eliyahu = Yahuwah is my God

Yeshayahu = Yahuwah has saved

Yahushua = Yahuwah is salvation

MoriYAH = I have seen Yahuwah

Shma'Yah = Yahuwah has heard

HalleluYAH = Glory to thee, Yahuwah

[CastusPeregrinus]

The writer of the Greek Septuagint Old Testament also used this name so don't even think for a second that any other language apart from Hebrew can get away with it. There's the name... you don't have it? It's on your head.  Cheers. :)

[Prandtl1904]

"We forgot His name so we're just gonna borrow some inexplicit epithet from the pagan Arabs and call it the 'one true god.'"

1. the Word Allah is not "borrowed", the arabs used it since Abraham. proof? what was mohamed's father name? the slave of Allah. and BTW he died even before islam

2.Allah and ellat are not even close in arabic. do you even know arabic ?

I really don't want to waste my time with ignorants. believe what u want just don't bother me with it.

[CastusPeregrinus]

"I really don't want to waste my time with ignorants"

^^Funny how the whole thing is the other way around and yet I still can't believe you've been breathing the same air since the day you were born. Face it, bird brain. Allat is the name of a Sumerian goddess of the underworld that was worshipped by Carthaginians. The Arabic Allat is one of the three chief goddesses of Mecca, read your filthy book again: Sura 53:19.

[Prandtl1904]

it's really funny to argue with on that when you can't even speak arabic. BTW you didn't even try to refute my 2 previous arguments.

Allah and Ellat are not even close in pronounciation. using your criteria then arabs don't know the difference between heart and dog "kalb", or science and flag "elm". or scientist and world "alem" etc...

you believe in a 1+1+1=1 God who killed himself to forgive the world (as if he couldn't do it without killing himself) and you're calling me foolish ?!!!

[CastusPeregrinus]

The 1+1+1= 1 God theology was made up by bird brained Muslims who likes to twist scripture and wipe more nonsense from their bottom and shove the tissue in people's faces. The sacrifice of the body was what stopped the Passover in light of Psalm 110. The Messiah is the eternal priest of the order of the Melchizedek. Even a pseudo intellecual fool like you could not grasp that. Proof that reprobates can't read scripture.

[Prandtl1904]

whatever makes you happy

[CastusPeregrinus]

Allat and Allah are as mutual as the duo epiphets, Baalim and Baal can be. The Creator's name is Yahuwah and no other else, foolish pagan. :)

[CastusPeregrinus]

I'll leave you with this:

"Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal." -Jeremiah 23:27

[themessageofthebible]

allah is above everything, no body knows how he is, and he is only one he hasnt made anything like creaitng another person. And if jesus is god why cant you still pray to elohim instead of praying to this man named jesus and sending prayers to him and trusting in him. his mission was to die for you sins in the flesh and now thats done return to the orginila faith to worship elohim he has now finishe his job. but instead you countinue worship him in his flesh.

[themessageofthebible]

Stop thinking from your feeble perspective on how you think it has to work.

Response: no, i never think on how god looks like or how he is. you are the one beliving god for a time was in human flesh with organ.

Response: ohhh totally unecessery cos i just bive in one god. no need for me to get this.

[LuxAuterna]

"no need for me to get this. " So basically what you are saying here is that you have no desire to know God.

Alilah (the moon god) was re-defined 600 years after Jesus into Allah to have somewhat of a likeness to the God of the bible (although they are very different). The account of Jesus in the Quran is as good as fire kindling. To call Jesus a mere prophet is blasphemy. You have no respect for Jesus though Muslims claim they do. If they did they would praise him for his sacrifice.

[themessageofthebible]

To call Jesus a mere prophet is blasphemy.

No to say that god is one in three or the second in three or the third in three (god, son spirit) thats blasphemy or to give a man the tile son of god and sending prayers to him and taking him as his lord. no man bears the sin of the other. so we belive jesus was saved. yes the the croos hanging happened but we belive the real jesus was not put there.

[SanderDolce]

Just give up, islam is wrong and christianity is right.

[themessageofthebible]

listen my friend it only you who makes this difficult for you. it is not hard to understand. eiher its diffrent indivudals or there is one. elohim for example he is one alone ok alone in his person in his power, in his lordship. now take jesus in, then elohim's lordship is divided his power divided.

[LuxAuterna]

No there is no difficulties for me. I understand it fully. I'm trying to put it in terms that you can understand. Elohim is the plural noun (more than one) in form but singular in meaning.

As I said the three individuals are in complete harmony. There is no power divided because they completely agree in all they do. The relationship does not require human attributes. Stop thinking from your feeble perspective on how you think it has to work.

[LuxAuterna]

"For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh." Gen. 2:2

God sees the marriage of two individuals as becoming one. Two individuals loving and living in agreement with each other. Humans have their flaws but God lives in perfect harmony. The three being one. Do you see the picture yet?

[themessageofthebible]

. There is no power divided because they completely agree in all they do.

Response: Yes there is jesus has power elohim has power the spirit has power. like me you and sam we are eating from one apple but this appple is eating by three persons.

[themessageofthebible]

We are all apart of the human race right? But we are individuals within that.

Response: zeus, hades , poseidon, they all belong to divinty right? yet three gods.

[LuxAuterna]

These are known mythological characters. Its funny you would use the same argument atheists would use to shut you up and your allah.

God and the trinity has historical precedence with first hand accounts of people witnessing God's presence. None of these mythological characters have that.

[themessageofthebible]

Its funny you would use the same argument atheists would use to shut you up and your allah.

Response: no atheist say how can you know if allah is the true god and not these gods i didnt use such arguments i just responded your argument about human race.

[MIRCAVA4EVER]

may god protect you with his right hand. sam may god never move his face from you.

[DeathRattleShakes]

You have absolutely no reason not to believe that Jesus made the claim He was God. ABSOLUTELY NONE.

[KeithTruth]

You have no idea what you are talking about. There was no Trinity church. There were many early Trinitarian Christians in many pre-nicean churches all over the place who, from reading the holy scriptures, came to the same conclusions. Such Christians and locations include Ireneaus, Tertullian, Origen, Theophilus, athenagrous etc from france, turkey, israel, egypt, rome, etc

Quoting from the Bible to explain hisorical reasoning of the Bible is a distortion of what I did.

[LuxAuterna]

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let US make man in OUR own image, after our likeness..." Why does it say us and our? The angels cannot create so who was God talking to? The trinity is a fact and the debate is over.

[themessageofthebible]

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let US make man in OUR own image, after our likeness..."

Response: the babylonians said the same.

[LuxAuterna]

It's not pagan worship or many gods. It's one God three individuals that are in complete harmony with each other.

We are all apart of the human race right? But we are individuals within that. The same concept applies to God. I know its difficult to wrap our feeble minds around the infinite, all powerful, all knowing God. "If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? " (John 3:12)

[themessageofthebible]

no my friend you associte with god jesus. these three indivduals if they are one how come jesus is siting next to god. worship god alone and not prophets who has been given titles and names like son of man or son of god or lord of the lords. belive i trinity i dont want a debate. but dont want belive in trinity.

[DeathRattleShakes]

John 13:13 = Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

Clearcut, 100% evidence that Jesus said he was God.

Now of course the Muslims need to find some way of refuting this, so they claim that Lord can mean more than just God. Alright, its true, BUT, the original Greek uses at least 4 different cases for Lord, and the same one used to refer to the Lord your God, is the one used here to refer to Jesus. So you lose Muslims, as usual.

[Dragonlady66]

ahhh Plastic Sword of Allah, he gave us some good laughs.

[KeithTruth]

"Abu Darda reported that the HOLY PROPHET SAID: Allah created Adam when he created him (sic). Then He stroke (sic) his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke (sic) HIS LEFT SHOULDER and took out a BLACK RACE as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don't care. He said to those who were ON HIS LEFT SHOULDER: Towards Hell and I don't care. - Ahmad" (Mishkat ul-Masabih, translated by Karim, v. iii, p. 117)

[BabaRizwan]

HAHAHAHAHA.. Do you even know about the sciences of hadeeth?? Do you know about the status of hadeeth?? Do you know that some are authentic, some are weak, some are fabricated but still kept in the hadeeth book written by their scholars?? Why do they keep these fabricated hadeeth? Because it the book belongs to the scholar writing it. We cannot just throw it away and you just quote those fabricated hadeeth and try to demonize us? LOL. Educate yourself!

[KeithTruth]

You have yet to prove it is a fabricated hadith idiot HAHAHAHAHA. Lying dummy.

[Hans021220]

@BabaRizwan He is no dummy I tell you!Jesus has proclaimed Himself as God.He calls God His Father,which also tells that Jesus,in almost every chapter in The New Testament, says that He is the son of The Only Living God,at the same time as e is God!In John 14:8 Jesus says:"THose who have seeb ME,has seen The Father.

[KeithTruth]

According to the Bible Jesus is God and to fulfill the law for us he came down as a man and perfectly obeyed the law so he would be qualified to fuflill it to bring the world salvation if we accept him as Lord.

As for rascism... cont

[BabaRizwan]

Trinity is a joke. No wonder Christians are becoming Muslims. LOL.

[KeithTruth]

Tell that to the 6 million Africans that convert to Christianity from islam every year.

Muhammad was a joke who beat his tean wife Aisha which hurt her chest. LOL

[BabaRizwan]

Read the hadeeth with a context. He did not beat her, he was treating her. Simply ignorant. 6 million Africans convert to Christianity? LOL. Funny. Thousands of testimonies Christians converting to Islam but very few on the other side. Some of the converts even become scholars of Islam. Isn't that fascinating? Haha.

[KeithTruth]

Treating her huh? Let's see:

Muslim 4:2127 Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, He struck me on the chest which caused me pain.

This is how muslims treat their women huh? You lunatic

The 6 million figure is from shiekh ahmed on Al Jazeera tv not me. All you have is a few youtube videos. I have one statistic that outnumbers all of the video you can find.

youtube (dot) com / watch?v=5COVkGIB9f4

[BabaRizwan]

Did you study the context?? Do you even know what hadeeth is?? He was treating her. Did you ever try to find the refutation? Do you know the Sabaabul Wurud of the hadeeth? The cause of the hadeeth? No you don't!! Because it's not online!! LOL. Explain to me trinity and make sure it makes sense, and I'll become a Christian. Haha.

[KeithTruth]

You must be shia. Taqiyya when you have nothing meaningful to say. Look idiot I posted the hadith and it gives you the context. What is there to refute? You offer nothing but assertions.

[BabaRizwan]

LOL. You are funny? I am Shia?? I am Sunni by definition but I don't really care because Shia and Sunni are just the same thing. We are both Muslims. First thing I want to ask you, what is taqiyya? Do you know what does it mean? LOL.

[BabaRizwan]

What is Trinity? It's just simply Roman Paganism aimed at gaining European Pagans influence to Christianity!! Take that fact! All those stories about God incarnated to Earth for mankind salvation are just similar to Gods of Greek stories. It's nothing like the God of Abraham peace be upon him. It's nothing like the God of Torah at all. Wake up!!

[KeithTruth]

I made a film called zeitgeist part one exposed where I debunk everything you just said. You are a decieved fool who belongs to satan.

[BabaRizwan]

Ahh.. Zeitgeist?? LOL.

[KeithTruth]

Yes and that is where your lies are contained. The first Christians who believed Jesus as God were slaughtere dby the Roman empire. Learn history and come back idiot. lol

[BabaRizwan]

Even your Bible is mixed with scribes own words!! They were copied again and again and the originality of it is gone long time ago. Now the Vatican refuses to swear by the truth of Holy Bible saying that we should not expect total accuracy from it. Especially on the Genesis part of creation. That's funny isn't it?

[KeithTruth]

I guess your allah was too stupid to be able to protect his own word then. LOL

[KeithTruth]

But I guess you don't care about Africans right? Should we see what happens to someone who mistakes muhammad for being black according to islam?

[lommylom]

without the the HolySpirit in you , how can you understand the `trinity`.

[Choctawu]

Can you tell the youtubers Muslims roll in genocide regarding people you are making commerce and human capital for those that have established your organization and the truth that all churchs are occupations called liberations by Geneva and Hague Conventions. They are not of Asia but continue division among the aboriginal people of the lands.

[bobi2020]

you make no sence. there is one god and the romans were not that powerfull that god needed to come down and get killed.

[KeithTruth]

Quote me where I said what you just said.

[Haqqer84]

''You said 3=1??? Just because your brain is not as complicated as Gods capability that does not refute anything. It just shows how incompetant you and muhammad are.''

No the only thing it shows is how moronic you really are. You are incapable of addressing any of the points that I have raised because you follow an irrathional concept i.e. blind believe. You do not care if it make senses or not, your mission is to fool others that the trinity is true.

[KeithTruth]

You haven't raised any points, nor have you provided any meaningful argumentation as to why you feel God is limited. You claim he is incapable of revieling himself in 3 persons. Father, Son and spirit even though throughout the scriptures all 3 have divine attributes and functions.

Too bad muhammad wa signorant of God and satan led him to deliver the filthy quran. You have been so brainwashed by that false prophet that you reject Gods real revelation.

[Haqqer84]

''Why? Who are you (creature) to say what God can and can't do. To say that God is preposterous.''

Yes that is right, the whole concept of the Trinity is ridiculous and only fools will believe that a God/Creator can be so weak. Again I point out, to convert from Immortal to Moral actually defeats the purpose of a God.

To inform me that this concept is not fully understood by its followers leads me to believe that the trinity is man made garbage and disrespectful.

[KeithTruth]

You never answered why it is ridiculous. You just assert that it is because your brain is incompetant just like muhammad that demon possesed false prophet that Jesus warned us about.

We dont believe that God ceased to be God during the incarnation. Because you are clueless about trinity like deedat and naik, you assume that God ceased to be God when Jesus was on earth We believe God is one and powerful to reviel himself in 3 persons.

Momo delievered messages from satan on the other hand.

[Haqqer84]

To believe God became his creation in the form of christ i.e. from immortal to moral is just preposterous.

Then the christian will explain that God/Chirist was beaten up and crucified for our sins. LOL this is further proof of how ridiculous the trinity really is.

Does 3 = 1? If you used your brain that God has given to you then you will soon establish that the whole concept of trinity is impossible.

Trinity has been REFUTED!

Salam.

[KeithTruth]

you said:

"To believe God became his creation in the form of christ i.e. from immortal to moral is just preposterous"

Why? Who are you (creature) to say what God can and can't do. To say that God is preposterous. You said 3=1??? Just because your brain is not as complicated as Gods capability that does not refute anything. It just shows how incompetant you and muhammad are.

Trinity was established and the muslims were smoked. If you accept their arguments then you agree with error.

[caffy1976]

"Does 3 = 1? If you used your brain that God has given to you then you will soon establish that the whole concept of trinity is impossible."

We Christians never said that God is 3=1. God is 1 BEING and 3 PERSONS.

We distinguish between person and being. Your statement just shows how ignorant you are about the doctrine of the Trinity.

[Haqqer84]

Sam Muppet Shamoun on the trinity...''it is beyond comprehension but it is not irrational''.

LOL This is typical moronic speech from those fanatical christains.

Face facts, the bible has many authors which allows for contradictions. Hence why the christain religion is declining.

No one really wants to believe in a religion that is so irrathional like christainity.

May Islam live forever.

Salam

[KeithTruth]

Islam is a terrorist cult. It will be defeated by Christ in the end times.

Take care.

[SlaveOfthemostjust]

Sam is contradicting himself. He quotes the bible which says that none is comparable to God in the heavens and the earth and yet he says that Jesus who is a human being is god.

[LeaveMoAlone]

1MoreMuslim get to your senses.You are following a "prophet" who have no proof he was talking or receiving anything from any god except his own testimony based on his wife little strip-tease.

So there is the trinity Gabriel-Muhammad-Kadija in what you believe.

I saw more of your hateful/smart comments around here.

You're just an hypocrite with a new hobby called Islam just like this Plastic Sword of Allah.You filled your brains with Naik/Dedat BS and now you think you can debate.Damn!

[Deliratio]

Sam is a pretty impressive debater.

[onebludz]

this brother starts off by saying God is 1 and indescribable...

then finishes saying God is Jesus ,the holy spirit and the father!...

so he has gone from God bieng 1, to 3 ,and described God in form ,which is supposed to be indescribable, in the same breath..confusing..

[KeithTruth]

You are misquoting him lying like a good muslim. Tuyiya you must be practicing.

[lommylom]

keep in the Spirit and dont back down . good job bro in Christ

[1MoreMuslim]

"Tuyiya you must be practicing"

What is it ? Tuyiya!

Lying to spread christianity was invented first by Paul, he was gentile to gentiles and jew for the jews to make more disciples.

It's laughable when the christian is trying to prove that God is more than one person, from the OT!

[KeithTruth]

Tiqiyya is where muslims are allowed to lie. Post the verse where Paul permitts lying then I will refute it and post one that says not to lie from him.

Go ahead you little tiqiyya.

[1MoreMuslim]

Tiqiyya is where muslims are allowed to lie"

Is it a town Where muslims can go and make lies? LOL

Prove to your viewer that you are not a liar, and post a reference for your definition of Taqiyya. If you can't find a reference I would call you a liar. You are an example of someone who lies to promote his religion. Prove me wrong.

For others who want to have a more accurate information just type " Taqiyya" in wikipedia, if can't read books.

[KeithTruth]

you obviously struggle with the english language.

I never said tiqiyya was a town or a place. What I said is the same as me saying swearing is where you say bad words.

Please learn our dialect and do more study. Let's talk about mut'ah now; or are you going to excersize tiqiyya on us?

[1MoreMuslim]

I strugle with English , may b true. English is my 3rd language.. but you said:

"Tiqiyya is where muslims are allowed to lie"

I think in English the word "WHERE" refers to a place, or am I wrong?

You didn't give a reference to the definition of Taqiyya, you are still a liar until you back your claim.

I think you confuse me with a Shia, you wouldn't like to be addressed as a catholic, so be consistent.

[KeithTruth]

My use of where is accetoable in our language. It is complicated. Keep studying.

Don't play stupid you now of tiqiyya.

Listen don't have time for you games tonight I am busy so I am going to block you until tommorow.

This will also give you time to think of some better arguments against Christianity.

[jayjay1179]

wow! you want "better" arguments against the pagan religion of christianity which is a direct desendant of the ancient mitraic religion.Heres what i recommend you should do.youtube some Ahmed deedat and/or Zakir Naik lectures.you will find that the "holy spirit" had departed from the countless scholars of mithraism,i mean christianity when faced with irrefutable truths of Islam.p.s your "tiqiya" or "tiyuya" fairytale is rather laughable as you have nothing of any substance to bring forth.

[KeithTruth]

ahmed deedat is rotting in hell and naik is being proptested by muslims.

As for supposed pagan similarities I made a film you should watch that addresses them:

zeitgeist part one exposed: the film

Educate yourself and come back. Taqiyya is shia practice. Art of deception or lying. I can bring you hadith.

[KevZen2000]

This is a video to show the cults,even the ones who misinterpret the bible.Great video.

[OrlandoParty2K]

What is the new name of SOA?

[KeithTruth]

SOA? Is that an acronym?

[OrlandoParty2K]

SOA is the Acronym for "SwordofAllah." :)

[KeithTruth]

Ahh. I think he is just swordofallah87 or something. God Bless.

[OrlandoParty2K]

He was suspended. It looks as though he is only holding on to teenage pride. All well.

[mrpopo8603]

He has two a's in allah. swordofallaah.

[OrlandoParty2K]

Seems he hasn't been on for at least 5 months. He got spanked.

[ThePreacher84040fan]

When did they have this debate keith?

Thanks for sharing God bless you.

[KeithTruth]

I don't know when this took place. But the original has very bad quality so I edited it with a dead sound deleter in my program.

God Bless.