haha the stupid record company or vevo or something took down all the recordings of this but they obviously cant read spanish. finally ignorance does us all a favor
@jovauri Eso es porque el vinil capturó el espíritu del momento, una versión digital sonaría "mejor", pero más falsa, menos sincera. Por otro lado, tremendo tema, qué grande era Charlie.
There was (or is) a downsize to how some mainstream (read commecial) oriented media mainstays did (or do) try to relabel some things for the sake of marketing it to a (mostly white) audience...
I. e., what some did or do call 'latino jazz',
really did and does have its afrolatino roots...
I actually had an ambum of Parker led sessions backed up by some of them...
Anybody remember how it was originally put out there, on the Verve label?
Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this...giving tribute to two greats...it's a shame that NO postings [as of yet] of Jose Mangual [a.k.a. Buyu] performing with Latin greats has not been put up.
This is track #7 from The Essential Charlie Parker. It was Parker playing, The tune has a latin style to it and I believe that was the sound concept Charlie Parker was trying to achieve here.
Damn! if you don't really know Parker then just say so,this is Parker without a doubt.You must be a "part-timer" otherwise you would recognise him from the first note.
And by the way if you really want to hear a "shitty" recording by him,then go look for "Gypsy" from one of his mid forties collaborations just before he passed out in the studio and was admitted to hospital.Still sounds beautiful.
I would enjoy Bird's music even if he played a friggin didgeridoo,he was so much of a legend.........
He could outplay just about everybody even when he was stoned.Thats sad yet amazing all in one bunch. bird lives!sadly i wish his habits didn't frigin shame.JAZZ always lives!
La versatilidad de Parker plasmada en una sesión con Jose mangual, como antes lo hiciera con la banda de Machito. Genio del saxo tenor también incursionó en nuestra música latina.
Like I said I can't know it all. He just sounds shitty in this recording. Not to take anything from his skills or career. To me he is the best Sax player ever technically and tone wise. For the love of God the man was one of the innovators of beebop. However, Coltrane is still my favorite.
I'm used to the version of Little Suede Shoes on the album "Bird Is Free" The tempo is up a bit from this one and it's just Max playing Latin, no percussionist. But I'm convinced Bird is a bit stoned on this recording. I've studied Parker a lot on the The Complete Live Performances at the Royal Roost and have learned to assess the extent of his drug-induced relaxation shall we say. However he did cover it better than Bud Powell for example. But stoned or not, he was a genius of jazz.
I don't doubt that Mangual and Bird played together, it just doesn't sound like bird. Maybe bird before he really came into his own. Both of your points are well made and I can't know it all.
Hey JulezJazz - I´m sorry, but how can anyone mistake Charlie Parker who has ever listened to him even once? In that particular tune there is everything of his unique style perfectly to hear. You seem to be more the HipHop-Type, right? Greetings
Well you know what they say about assumptions right? No I am more of a jazz enthusiest than that of Hip Hop, although I do like it as well. Like I said I don't know it all, but from all of the CD's I have this does not sound exactly like Bird to me. What does everybody want to crucify me next? I never heard the tune before I heard it here.
Sorry, I didn´t wanted to crucify you! You are right: The alto-player seems a bit too in "lazy" and "harsh" in a few parts compared to most of Parkers recordings. So: Good Ears! Could be early Sonny Stitt or Sunny Criss - But there is that little Growl and the specific timing, that is so typically for Parker. Therefor I searched the Parker Discographie and the recording is listed there: - will follow -
jose mangual was a great conga player who did in fact play with bird(this is bird check out his loops and runs)and errol garner,plus many others,listen carefully
Sorry to who ever posted this, but this is not bird on the Alto. Who ever it was did a good job, but there is only one bird. I know him when I hear him and that is not charlie parker!
yes it is. go check out the transcribed solo in the omnibook if you don't believe me. or, better yet, buy the recording credited to him and released by verve.
It sounds like something he would have written, but when it comes to playing no. The licks are not smooth like he would have played them. You can't even say this is a bad recording. Listen to his other stuff and tell me this sounds like him.
Seriously? I mean, despite the fact that the note choice and phrasing are all Bird, just listen to the tone. There's only one saxophonist in history that's had that exact tone.
haha the stupid record company or vevo or something took down all the recordings of this but they obviously cant read spanish. finally ignorance does us all a favor
piaknowledge 4 months ago
what is the name of this song?
frankcqIII 10 months ago
@frankcqIII Hi..... "My little suede shoes"
jovauri 10 months ago
Que sonidazo la put madre! jajaja
sicfaqboi 10 months ago 5
@sicfaqboi Es de un disco de vinil... ¿Cómo la ves? En la época digital, el vinil se sigue imponiendo en sonido... Saludos.
jovauri 10 months ago 2
@jovauri Eso es porque el vinil capturó el espíritu del momento, una versión digital sonaría "mejor", pero más falsa, menos sincera. Por otro lado, tremendo tema, qué grande era Charlie.
javiikiller 5 months ago
buyu on bongos! q nota.
71hoovercorrea 1 year ago
God I love this song...and every time I hear it I'm transported to thoroughfare on the Caribbean...
noirtriptyline 1 year ago
2:09 LMFAO
1dudeman2 2 years ago
There was (or is) a downsize to how some mainstream (read commecial) oriented media mainstays did (or do) try to relabel some things for the sake of marketing it to a (mostly white) audience...
I. e., what some did or do call 'latino jazz',
really did and does have its afrolatino roots...
I actually had an ambum of Parker led sessions backed up by some of them...
Anybody remember how it was originally put out there, on the Verve label?
Please let me know...
Gracias...
Adios...
lilhitman364 2 years ago
Beautiful blend of stylings from two masters.....
markmoth 2 years ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this...giving tribute to two greats...it's a shame that NO postings [as of yet] of Jose Mangual [a.k.a. Buyu] performing with Latin greats has not been put up.
anameow 2 years ago
charlie parker is in heaven
krikorsax 3 years ago
2:05-2:20 pretty funny
RexLancer 3 years ago
I heard this song in Jazz FM station and the Announcer set : you are listening Charlie Pareker !
dafofnofo 3 years ago
This is track #7 from The Essential Charlie Parker. It was Parker playing, The tune has a latin style to it and I believe that was the sound concept Charlie Parker was trying to achieve here.
Scrooks1 3 years ago
Damn! if you don't really know Parker then just say so,this is Parker without a doubt.You must be a "part-timer" otherwise you would recognise him from the first note.
And by the way if you really want to hear a "shitty" recording by him,then go look for "Gypsy" from one of his mid forties collaborations just before he passed out in the studio and was admitted to hospital.Still sounds beautiful.
I would enjoy Bird's music even if he played a friggin didgeridoo,he was so much of a legend.........
lousehr 3 years ago
We're with ya man ... well said.
jazzflutist 3 years ago
His best was '44 to '48. From Verve on not a lot, except two live albums (Massey Hall and Summit At Birdland)
livegems 4 years ago
no se trata de luis "buyú" mangual,padre de jose mangualjr
paulitofg1971 4 years ago
That squirrel knows how to enjoy jazz music.
jazzflutist 4 years ago
la musica de parker nunca morirá.Es simplemente el mejor jazzista de todos lo tiempos y uno de los más grandes musicos que ha dado este mundo.
Su incursión con las raíces latinas y sus arreglos con cuerdas fueron muy novedosos en su época... un genio de tomo y lomo
gustavo1936 4 years ago
you've listened "la cucaracha"?
sebaz60 4 years ago
my little suede shoes! it's very cool, the sound sax's parker is unique, no-one can get it
sebaz60 4 years ago
He could outplay just about everybody even when he was stoned.Thats sad yet amazing all in one bunch. bird lives!sadly i wish his habits didn't frigin shame.JAZZ always lives!
birdlives239 4 years ago
La versatilidad de Parker plasmada en una sesión con Jose mangual, como antes lo hiciera con la banda de Machito. Genio del saxo tenor también incursionó en nuestra música latina.
niloleon 4 years ago
Like I said I can't know it all. He just sounds shitty in this recording. Not to take anything from his skills or career. To me he is the best Sax player ever technically and tone wise. For the love of God the man was one of the innovators of beebop. However, Coltrane is still my favorite.
JULEZJAZZ 4 years ago
I'm used to the version of Little Suede Shoes on the album "Bird Is Free" The tempo is up a bit from this one and it's just Max playing Latin, no percussionist. But I'm convinced Bird is a bit stoned on this recording. I've studied Parker a lot on the The Complete Live Performances at the Royal Roost and have learned to assess the extent of his drug-induced relaxation shall we say. However he did cover it better than Bud Powell for example. But stoned or not, he was a genius of jazz.
TRBrownn 4 years ago
Agreed...that is unquestionably Bird doing "My Little Suede Shoes"
pcarucci 4 years ago
I don't doubt that Mangual and Bird played together, it just doesn't sound like bird. Maybe bird before he really came into his own. Both of your points are well made and I can't know it all.
JULEZJAZZ 4 years ago
Hey JulezJazz - I´m sorry, but how can anyone mistake Charlie Parker who has ever listened to him even once? In that particular tune there is everything of his unique style perfectly to hear. You seem to be more the HipHop-Type, right? Greetings
shranki 4 years ago
Well you know what they say about assumptions right? No I am more of a jazz enthusiest than that of Hip Hop, although I do like it as well. Like I said I don't know it all, but from all of the CD's I have this does not sound exactly like Bird to me. What does everybody want to crucify me next? I never heard the tune before I heard it here.
JULEZJAZZ 4 years ago
Hey JulezJazz!
Sorry, I didn´t wanted to crucify you! You are right: The alto-player seems a bit too in "lazy" and "harsh" in a few parts compared to most of Parkers recordings. So: Good Ears! Could be early Sonny Stitt or Sunny Criss - But there is that little Growl and the specific timing, that is so typically for Parker. Therefor I searched the Parker Discographie and the recording is listed there: - will follow -
shranki 4 years ago
Charlie Parker's Jazzers:
Charlie Parker (as) Walter Bishop Jr. (p) Teddy Kotick (b) Roy Haynes (d) Luis Miranda (cga) Jose Mangual (bgo)
NYC, March 12, 1951
540-6 My Little Suede Shoes Mercury 11093, MGC 513; Verve MGV 8008, MGV 8000, VE2 2512
541-2 Up Poquito De Tu Amor
542-9 Tico Tico
543-3 Fiesta Norgran
544-2 Why Do I Love You?
* The Charlie Parker Story, #1 (Verve MGV 80
* Charlie Parker - My Little Suede Shoes c/w La Cucaracha (Mercury 11093, 11093x45; Clef 11093, 11093x45)
shranki 4 years ago
jose mangual was a great conga player who did in fact play with bird(this is bird check out his loops and runs)and errol garner,plus many others,listen carefully
dreadtodred 4 years ago
Sorry to who ever posted this, but this is not bird on the Alto. Who ever it was did a good job, but there is only one bird. I know him when I hear him and that is not charlie parker!
JULEZJAZZ 4 years ago
yes it is. go check out the transcribed solo in the omnibook if you don't believe me. or, better yet, buy the recording credited to him and released by verve.
graftonacrylic 4 years ago
It sounds like something he would have written, but when it comes to playing no. The licks are not smooth like he would have played them. You can't even say this is a bad recording. Listen to his other stuff and tell me this sounds like him.
JULEZJAZZ 4 years ago
Seriously? I mean, despite the fact that the note choice and phrasing are all Bird, just listen to the tone. There's only one saxophonist in history that's had that exact tone.
sbonfiglioli 4 years ago
My Little Suede Shoes - Charlie Parker South of the Border ...
phillyjazz 4 years ago
Ay ya ay hot ! Im across the Atlantic in foggy London town but I dig this mucho caliente musica.
patsybaby 4 years ago
ahora si!
gregoryburrows 4 years ago