All About Hand Gun Self Defense : Defend Against a Handgun to the Face with a Gansta Grip

[DesertsWilderness]

Don't listen to this kids you wanna keep your finger on the trigger XD

[ggNATAKUgg]

if anyone tries to use this, consider yourself dead...

[lolcat13243]

or you could just shoot him when you have it aimed at his head.....>.>

[ablahblah54]

When you push, you know, coming from another video you might want to grip the slide so the weapon is unable to cycle and get you fucked over if the enemy isn't surprised at all.

[AfthartosVideos]

Three steps to not getting mugged.

#1 Buy gun.

#2 Have gun strapped to belt.

#3 Do NOT cover gun.

Doing this is basically wearing a sign saying "Mug me if you want to die."

[jsierraG24]

this guy is an idiot, DO NOT LISTEN!! first of all he didnt clear the gun an the retard holding it had his finger on the trigger. secound the "instructor" left to much space between himself an the attacker. iF someone attacks you with a gun give them whatever the hell they want an if you have the opportunity to make a move then do so but get in tight an be busy. an remember FIGHT THE GUY NOT THE WEAPON.

[ImakepplLaff]

Yo man this actaully helped. I was walking down a dark alleyway in NYC with my Patriots jersey on then this guy with a Jets cap points his gun at me and threatens to burn my jersey and kill me afterward. Luckily i saw this video beforehand and used this method on him. HEHEHE fucking Jets fan, sooo dum

[chewbaca1997]

@ImakepplLaff haha good lie XD

[420ilikekush]

this guy is so nervous its not a real gun chill

[wcresponder]

again not showing condition of weapon and letting the assistant have finger on trigger. Bad

[luvthevols09]

When u shove it in his face, wat if he eats it, then barfs it up and pwns ur ass

[XSixClawX]

Wanna better defense tip? PRACTICE HANDING YOUR MONEY OVER TO THE GUY WITH THE FREAKIN GUN. GUNS ARE FASTER THAN PUNCHES.

[gaozhi2007]

@XSixClawX agreed.

[peacemaker181]

lol stupid

[MrAndre5874]

this will get you killed ppl

[mackhomie]

how do people develop the habit of saying "ok?" after every sentence - seems like a redneck thing

[MrEvilcannibal]

there are numerous things wrong with this. its appauling, all the shooter has to do is squeeze and its game over. keep it simple, keep it fast. firstly this guy put his hands up, the shooter can see your hands move out of the corner of his eye, keep your hands low. also keep it simple, thinking is the enemy, dont go doing flashy over-the-top moves keep it basic. most importantly this guy didnt shift out of the firing line when starting the disarm. my sensie would kill me for copying this video.

[dewartt69]

@MrEvilcannibal agreed simple is all it takes, the flashy hollywood movie stuff will kill you, when they order you to hand over your valuables they expect movement so like you said keep it low and quick, it will take the average person less than .25 sec to pull the trigger, a spec ops operative can disarm and possibly return fire in under .10 sec, and practice makes perfect, or as well prepared as you can be.

[Dexxter011S]

@dewartt69 those "spec ops" operatives don't learn to disarm people. They learn advanced infiltration/extraction/hostag­e rescue tactics that regular soldiers don't normally do. Fucking Call of Duty generation.

[Turatle]

why not knock it to the side and kick him in the nuts,,,, he will then most certainly go down and drop the gun

[khalidcs911]

what happens if the gun men , alrdy saw your video and does that to me again and then what i do ?

[MustLovePoop]

this is what you do, someone pointing a gun at you, you get behind a car and try to dodge bullets the best you can, or pretend there's a cop behind them and when they turn around, you make your escape and get behind a car

[yeahboy994]

@MustLovePoop You're fucking retarded.

[drumdude46]

kid means well, i'm sure, but not sure about this rather "detailed" maneuver here.

much to involved and complex. who's gonna execute all this ( excluding Steven Segal) in a tense, "Sudden" encounter. especially the last part, where he's describing "getting ahold of the attackers wrist, WITH THE GUN, then Turn in- inward and force the stock or barrel into attackers face. looks like to me a possible discharge, blowing off the head of our attacker. only guy 'Charged" then, is you. Murder.

[purenoobsclan]

Is it just me or dose this guy say "K" alot lol

[eddiedaskull]

what iff they are much taller then you and they are holding the gun up over their head so you can't grab at it?

[dzanshin]

I wonder how he will react when there is a BANG at his ear? And that skinny gangster... ROFL!!!!!

[NWLsardine015]

It should be illegal to put this crap on the YouTube. Now some kid's gonna try this and get himself killed, then we get all firearms banned, then people start making war in Walmart, and I can't defend myself because now Obama owns my gun!

EXPERTvillage? Expert? Really?

[djv425]

ha ha ha ))) one problem ))) no body go so clothe with gun ))))

[iluchristian1]

HE TURNED IT SIDEWAYS KILL SHOT!!!

[NWLsardine015]

This is a very difficult technique to use. In fact, there is very little chance your attacker would be that close. Plus, the millisecond you move your hand, they will most likely blow your face off.

[hunterxxy]

@NWLsardine015 You would be amazed at how fast you can move in a life or death situation.

[NWLsardine015]

@hunterxxy Well, i wish i could say the same to Steven Hawkings...

[mrfurball46]

UNBELIEVABLE.... and you are teaching this crap to people? you're going to get them killed you idiot.

[paid9mm]

You're an idiot.. You train to take guns off people. I train to shoot you in the chest in you come within 6 feet of me. You ain't getting close enough to touch me

[Cab0408]

The problem with these gun disarm videos is, they are trying to do too much at once. Your coorination will be off in a high stress situation. Focus on one thing. Either you want to take out the attacker, or you want to gain posession of the weapon. Whichever one you choose, you have to be completely focused on a goal.

[Cab0408]

cont: If you want to take out the attacker, you have to move to his side or his back, then attack his face, eyes, head and or neck, until you can escape, or until he's out of commission. If you want the weapon, you have to move off line, grab with BOTH hands, then try to rip it away, violently and explosively. If that does not work, you can still get to his side or back and go on the offensive.

[ginjaninja1988]

I have studied Krav Maga and currently study Japanese Jujitsu. There are far better ways to disarm a handgun. He is not moving himself away fom the gun aswell as pushing it away. Secondly he should grab the gun around the muzzle tightly. Then if he starts shooting the slide wont work and he will get only one shot off. Not to mention the wild whiping around of the gun... what about bystanders when the attacker pulls the trigger in suprise??

[PaladinFury]

@ginjaninja1988 Have fun bandaging your fingers after the slide rips them open :)

Otherwise what you say is true, but trying to stop the slide with your bare hands?

And why the hell would anyone hold a gun in your face if there were witnesses? .. Sure, the bullet can fly off into the sunset, ricochet off a wall, a lamp, a sign post and an old guys spectacles and THEN hit someone, but what are the odds?

And ignoring odds, that one bullet you let be shot could be dangerous too.

[ginjaninja1988]

@PaladinFury First of all you can hold the slide of a handgun while firing. It has been proven and there are even videos on the internet showing. Who says there are witnesses and how can you guarentee that they won't put the gun in ur face. They might not or they may. one bullet can kill but you are less likley to get someone shot if the gun is pointed in one direction while in the offenders hand, its more likley to be discharged when whipping it around, or u might pass the muzzle over urself

[ginjaninja1988]

There are different techniques depending on where they point the pistol, but if possible its best to grab around the slide. In this video the slide is not held so if discharged by the assaliant then he can fire many rounds rather then one round which is therefore more dangerous. In conclusion, the technique shown in this video is bullshit and would never work on the street or battlefield or in ur home.

[SanSuMartialArts]

@ginjaninja1988 great reply most of these are posted and there schools technique but pay little attention to what will happen in a real situation ... a bullet is pretty final and people should train as such!!

[CaneCorsoZeus]

the guy on the right is a fucking deer in head lights, these techniques are absolute nonsense, if you get in this situation, give them the fucking money, if they're there to kill you, you've done something to make them feel that way and you're not going to stop them unless you carry concealed yourself. more reason to express your Second Amendment right and carry concealed!....this is all bullshit.

[shellshock10]

Lol yeah... i Would Shoot that mutha fucker! ;D!

[S3TPROGRAM]

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[makoa67]

the grab is wrong---your hands are already up--so you CANT flinch now...he is grabbing gunner's limb---should be grabbing the gun

this guy will get you killed

[ujustluvmydoggystyle]

I'd rather just pull my gun.

[archulo69]

@ujustluvmydoggystyle Lol Tha'd Be The Smart Thing To Do

[dharvell]

For one, what kind of dick holds their hand gun like some homey-G from da hood? If you hold your gun the correct way, that technique is completely ineffective.

[Snargifer]

In all the gun videos he grabs the slide, that is incredibly bad for your hand if the gun is fired.

[4nuhk8me]

I wouldn't use that technique and you should rework it or leave it alone.

[TonniVW]

These are not exactly good ways to defend!!!

[persev1]

Is it the wrist lock that really completes this technique or your power amulet your wearing that is the key.

Man we need more power amulets to defend ourselves.

[Snake14180]

Hey Man. Can you add me on facebook because one day I want you to teach me CQC in private.

[storeless]

wow..thats how people get shot for being heroes.

[chambers9218]

the same way i do

[HardKore5250]

The bullet is faster I don't think this would work unless the gunman is an unexperienced gunman or if the gunman gets scared and accidently pulls the trigger.

[KungFuKid1015]

A simple grab on the gun and into a finger lock will be more effective and quick....you don't want to waste any time punching the guy....do a quick disarm, step back and IF NEED BE...shoot.

[inbox485]

More crap that will get you killed.

[HardKore5250]

how come?

[Leagen100]

Wait sec... human reaction time (Correct me if i am wrong) is about 0.28 seconds... can you push the pistol out of the way with in that time?

Don't forget that his body is going to be tensed up ready for a attack like that...

and even if yes, you can do it with ease with in 0.28 seconds, whats the chances hes going to be that close to you?

[raffi127]

most unexperencied people would actually be that close to you believe or not =)

[mannnymanny]

youll be suprised how much faster a hand can move then a finger. if you practice it it works and youll be suprised

[Ntalikeris666]

0:24 "so what you are gonna do, is to push it out of the way" While at the same time a nice bullet is blowing your brains out...

[omnipower01]

why would u stand that close to someone with a gun i mean stand farther back

[DrowningYourMother]

Actually, it's best to stand as close as possible. It's better to have the bullet go right through you than to have shards of shrapnel splintered into your already torn up flesh.

[kboychris]

thats too risky i say everyone learn commando krav maga there dissarming techniques are more effective

[HardKore5250]

Is that the best martial art for gun defense?

[gimely67]

I'll have shot you before you even gotten to that range

[muemil]

Absolutely stupid!

Self DEFENSE isn't about attacking and beating the other one up! If u do that, he will kill you another day instead.

Just take the fucking gun, run, and report to the polise.

As a civil person, you do NOT work for the police, and you do not have the right to attack a person who attacks you!

[JessBisme]

lol. Good luck taking the gun without first hitting/disorienting the person holding it. I'm sure he'll hand it right over to you so you can run away and report to the police. Good plan.

[MalonProductions]

Yeah, your right, we dont have the right to attack a person attacking us. Just let them kill you, its easier than doing all of that hard work to get to the gun

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ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED???

[muemil]

"Slide it, and push into his face" There's not a word about running, but "hold him at gunpoint". This is completely stupid.

Have you studied other ways to grab a gun? There's 10 better ways.

That stupid guy would find another gun and kill you in the sleep for insulting him that badly.

Malon, I am not retarded. Grow up.

[MalonProductions]

so if you were at gunpoint, you would just stand there and do nothing? If thats what your going to do than just ignore this video dude.

[ringmaster316ms]

grow up you say?  what freaking country do you live in that it isn't legal to defend yourself with deadly force against someone with a gun in your face? cause here in america, all you gotta do is prove your life was in danger, or that you thought so.

[dudewatda3]

you are absolutely the fucking stupidest person ever!

[ringmaster316ms]

i dont care if i have the right or not, you put a gun in my face, its you or me. you either kill me, or i will kill you.

[zokinho91]

my man

[mizzladon78]

@ringmaster316ms Amen...

[MustLovePoop]

@ringmaster316ms you have decided

[ringmaster316ms]

@MustLovePoop its a simple matter of survival. for me, when someone puts a gun in my face, i automatically assume they mean to kill me, and respond with like force. one should not threaten to take something from someone theyre not willing to give up themselves

[mackhomie]

@ringmaster316ms jesus shut up

[ringmaster316ms]

@mackhomie kiss my ass

[Sekter12]

i dont think you should put your hands up because thatll be to obvious your going to make a move if you keep them down he wont know whats coming.

[MalonProductions]

but hands up is a common gesture like "Hey, dont shoot!"

[nirson123]

the last step is...KILL that mo@#$ F%er!!

[millerusaf]

Looks great in the gym, but that will probably fail in real life.

Keep it simple. That's the main rule in defending against a gun.

Quick little observation. During those moves, there were a few instances where the muzzle of the weapon was next to the defender's head. All it takes is a fraction of movement for the bad guy to pull the trigger to make the defender deaf, disoriented, and bloody from the muzzle blast.

This may possibly work, but it seems too hollywood to me.

[cornonthebread]

Gangsta?

[NICKTUBER80]

I wont crack on the kid doing this instruction cause they prolly dont know any better i blame the head instructor

ya cant honestly tell me your gonna go through sequences while the mother****'s 2 secs away from blowing ur brains out, the kids in this video prolly from a small town and got his ins's license cause he was there for like 4 years...Ive studied TKD since 1988, take a look at one of these classes theyll give an overweight housewife a black belt if the moneys right, say it aint true

[ewc1186]

I also studied TKD for 11 years (WAY TOO LONG) and completely agree with you. I really hope these kids don't find themselves in this situation in real life... they will most likely lose a lot more than their wallet using these techniques.

[TeamWuJin]

These kids need to stick to their video games! Responding to attacks with firearms is NO joke! It looks well choreographed but the first points of safety have been over looked, such as take control of the weapon and where its pointing. Those who have not used nor been trained in firearms professionally shouldnt be teaching how to respond to them. This is a joke!

[zebratyrant]

The "gangsta grip" is obviously an intimidation tool. However, if you're going to criticize handgun technique you need to exercise proper operative conduct with the weapon itself. After you've applied your joint lock and disengaged the weapon make sure that you're utilizing a sensible method by which to direct the firearm. Your left wrist needs more forward rotation and you need to keep the gun off center to your line.

[Rapist87]

The technique in this video is shit.The instructor looks like he's never been threatened with a water pistol let alone a real weapon.His ego is going to get people seriously hurt or killed.Stupid cunt

[skter4fun]

your talkin about him, ur name is rapist

[Rapist87]

that's right bitch

[BigWalkinTallV]

One last thing for all you who do not really know how to defend yourself in a worst case scenario gun situation: First step is to control the weapon. Grab it, grip it as strong as you can, and immediately bring yourself out of the line of fire. Second step is to strike at his nose, eyes, groin, etc. until he is incapable of harming you any further (i.e. beat his ass to a pulp). Always make sure the weapon is not pointed at you. As sloppy as it may be, it may keep you from being shot.

[Rapist87]

Sounds about right. Also learn how to realistically disarm him,basically by 'bending' the gun back and out of his grip by using the barrel as a lever,not like the way Steven Seagal does it.But don't try to disarm him until you fuck him up good for a bit

[BigWalkinTallV]

This gun defense is a joke for two reasons. One: If you push the gun away like that, in a stressful situation, you may fuck up like he did and remain in the line of fire for too long. Two: If you rip the gun out of his hand in that position with the barrel pointed towards his head, you very well may shoot him in the head. Take Krav Maga: It is the real deal with practical weapons defense.

[jdoe933]

erm, yeah the answer to this is to have your weapon out before this situation arises. gangsta would have been smoked before that gun ever got nearly on target.

Get your CHL and practice your standards until your arms fall off.

[Carlmanganmagnus]

bad tecnic..

[zico420]

this jokes not even funny !! fightin sum 1 whose got a gun pointed at u ?? r u stupid !! unless ofcuz the gangsta is high.. smoked that pure budd..but if the gun was on me white boi ide still smoke your asssss hahahaha

[dragateli]

expert villiage is shit village

[Judo4All]

This guy is an idiot. Its a shitty gun defense move and it will get you killed. Even when a person is trained in proper gun defense and DRILLS IT A LOT, under the stress of real situation it still may not always be enough. This kid has no f....ing idea what he is talking about.

Just hand over your money to the a-hole with the gun. Its not worth losing your life over. And ONLY if you are CERTAIN he'll shoot you anyway, then LEARN PROPER drills and PRACTICE/DRILL A LOT.

[scotttealey]

I'd have to agree w/ you, but statistically, people 'still' get shot after complying. It's always wise to make the wielder feel like they're in COMPLETE control, so as not to provoke fire. If he's hesitated drawing and shooting, chances are he really doesn't want to shoot. Best dodge tactic is to move forward. Complicated movement gets you killed. Hug-em! That is, in a head and arm lock/he can't move his arm and it's simple. Drive knees at groin/thighs! When base shift, then handle weapon arm.

[scotttealey]

Even if the weapon is low, hug arm, like in a wrestling arm drag, and knee/head butt, and keep feet moving with the arm to prevent hand change, which simultaneously affords you those critical to focus on when the firearm is and choose your method of disarm, and if done sharply may cause elbow or shoulder damage.

[Scottrchrdsn]

Well, I guess under some situations this might work. However, most criminals will either stand just far enough away to keep you from being able to grab it or will have fired it already. Your odds are not good and people have died trying this.

[AutumnEchoes]

almost always they have no intention of pulling the trigger. its a good technique to know, its better to know it and atleast have a chance than not know it.

[CollegeDropoutBear]

Allways push up! You don`t want him to shoot someone behind you!

[milkshakemonster49]

LOL how funny would it be if you did call the cops LOL! keep up the vids Bro you look like a tough dude!! All the best in the New Year!

[skillfulsk8r]

happened to me he wanted four hundred up front so i called da fuckin cops after i had him at gun point no joke this video and 2 months practice saved my life 2 times this year

[milkshakemonster49]

If I pull my gun to shoot a person I will not hesitate. I will pull my pistol and rapid fire at them. I carry an XDM 9MM holds 19 + 1 how do you defend against that? LIke I said I will pull the pistol and pull the trigger all with in a split second!!!!

[vline09]

I am so Calling the Cops!

LOL I'm just Kidd'n

[LapaKota]

Oh yeah, and I had to decipher the wall sign:

"Black Belts for [Christ]; Christian Karate"

OMG...LOL.

Sorry to Americans that seem to always want to slag Canada ... that goofy shit ONLY happens in the USA. Christian Karate seems to be a highly confused Texas/Southern States concept...but that's OK, the rest of world knows JC Waterwalker loves Americans best of all...

Hey, name a country that starts with "U"?

[bearsfan1294]

ukraine motha fucka

[Verator]

uzbekistan

[LapaKota]

Ummm... Ukraine & Uzbekistan are both true, but it's a trick question for AMERICANS... they never come up with UNITED States when asked "name a country that starts w/ 'u'"... LOL

[zukuze]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LapaKota ur funny lmao

[LapaKota]

I'm Canadian, I shoot IDPA & I'm a 30 year martial artist... so my take on this well-meaning video:

1) Show an 'instructor' & 'bad guy' with a bit more seasoning... awkward presentation from guys who look 15 doesn't inspire much.

2) For CCW fanatics - most criminals conceal a wpn & only present it right in your face... so how are you going to reach for YOUR pistol now w/o getting shot in the face?

3) YES to grabbing the slide - most of you must know that even a short slide retraction won't fire.

[Verator]

Right but a short draw from the hip and hitting his hand away would work as well.

[Y81FlyinSparks]

at 57 seconds... make sure your finger isnt on the trigger! i think we could all imagine if you forgot!

[alvarito1709]

,mmmmmmmmmm!! not so clear!!

[cjdrover]

I disagree with this technique.

1) If the shooter falls backwards after the first strike, the gun will be lined back up with the defender.

2) This technique seeks to control the shooter's arm/hand, not the weapon. You get much more torque by grabbing the barrel. Yes, this can hurt your hand if the weapon discharges, but it will hurt much less than a bullet.

[orladin]

One person mentioned earlier the best defense any person has in their arsenal .. Don't put yourself in these situations.

Don't road rage. Don't go into places you aren't welcome. Don't get into bar fights. If you look for trouble, it will find you.

Don't let yourself be pushed around, but think about how you can diffuse a situation without giving in or making foolish decisions.

[kjexz]

That is called common sense. You don't necessarily put yourself in this kind of situations on purpose - say for example if you're a store clerk and find yourself in a robbery.

[JasperPalmer]

He should have rehearsed the lesson a couple of times.

[feeunit1]

with a cold blooded "gangsta" who is waiting for you to test him. In conclusion, unless you are almost certain that you will be killed or severely harmed, do what he (or she) asks. Your watch is replaceable. Your life is not.

[orladin]

And what if they plan on killing you any way? You aren't psychic, you can't guess what someone's intentions are - Do you really want to put yourself at the mercy of the whims of an unstable person?

[my24939]

...Then you use a distraction technique and shoot him with your own gun. If that doesn't work then yes try something this stupid.

[Scottrchrdsn]

I agree. The person with the drawn handgun is probably so nervous already that they are close to firing it anyway. Best bet is NOT to do anything to make them more nervous.

[NERD585]

@feeunit1 why does it have to be a "gangsta"?

[feeunit1]

This does take some balls. There are many problems with this video. If the guy isn't trained on how to use a firearm, this increases the chances of an accidental discharge. Also, listen to the click of the gun when he strikes it. Those parts are moving around inside, and depending on how "gangsta" the gun is, this alone could cause the gun to go off. Also, if you pull the gun as he suggests, the shooter's hand will naturally exert more pressure on the trigger. Also, you could be dealing

[SSMAREBD]

If you're punching a person with a gun isn't it possible to knock him back and break your grip on the gun. This would put you in the direct line of fire.

[Kmill217]

yeah- in most cases, go for the arm bar or wrist lock-

[gamez31]

back to da hillbilly canadians the guy in da vid is american not a canadian buck tooth

[cypresspuz]

This a tutorial for canadians that are gonna move to america.

[RWT683]

More like for Americans moving to Canada where you're the Queen's unarmed serf with no right to carry a weapon or defend yourself.

[cypresspuz]

No kidding! Thx for the class Mr. Ignorant.

[dukenmisterio]

Fuck You

were not a bunch of fuckin hill billy fags

like you dumbass americans

[John234pwns]

nobody said Canadians were "fuckin hil billy fags"

the guy is simply stating you can't defend yourself the same way you can in the US

[mytvnm]

the 1 who carry a Gun he gonna be more fast to shoot than us befor we even think to use any techniques.that video show us unmoved target

[LirrenShentai]

You dumb fuck. These are training techniques for those who either don't carry a weapon or don't have a license to carry such a weapon. I've used these techniques myself, both against a knife and a gun. They work. Duh, not against long range, but in those situations, there are other things that do work...idiot.

[ChiefEamonn]

Ahh so the plan is to take his gun of him and in the end of it use a gun to defend yourself? well ok thats even more retarted!

[ChiefEamonn]

Fucking retarted very few people would have the balls let alone be close enough to grab a gun during such a situation. The only thing videos such as these do is discourage concealing arms yourself which leads to beatings and innocent people suffering. hope your happy guys..

[John234pwns]

hey, a CCW owner that doesn't have time to draw will probably find these useful

[orladin]

You make no sense.

[LBJLax06]

The best thing for you to do is Back the hell off. but if the guy says hes gonna kill you, or you absolutely have to... this is probably the best way to go.

[genussalticah]

next time, try covering your face with 8 layers of cloth.

[genussalticah]

nice tutorial, but you both look gay and ugly. i mean it

[kzalldaz]

Then next time don't get such a high reflective monitor so that you and your mom won't have to worry.

[LWXPT4U]

never give a canadian a gun.

[LapaKota]

... is that because we Canadians just happen to have the World Record for long range sniper kills? Yup, 2430m - that must be why he's so worried, right?

[laxstar21]

here's an idea... carry concealed yourself!

[mikemikemofo]

here's a better idea, don't put yourself in that kind of posistion.

having a kentucky cdw license and an assortment of small pieces doesn't hurt either. all hail the S&w 642j with crimson trace.

[John234pwns]

when you don't have time to draw, its worth knowing these type of techniques

[jafri998]

Nice!