@xistoxs That would mean having a really long track and an accelerating robot/controller. Since at different angles force due to gravity would not cancel to normal force... simple physics.
i like it alot, i like your control methodology appears very heuristic, are you using some sort of pseudo-inverse compensator for position control and disturbance rejection? or are you using a predictive controller like DMC? i'd be very interested in hearing your general approach to the control problem
Gr8 job. I remember doing this in control lab two years ago. We had linear control (only holds when it is almost upright) and non-linear control, which worked much like the way it does here.
hello dude, i am very much interested in this project. can you explain abt the schematics you have used. please mail me at gautham.mce@gmail.com atleast give me a reference about this project
The balancing of an inverted pendulum is a major feat of Control Engineering. This technique is majorly employed Auto, Aero & Space industry.. glad u posted ur demonstration.
no,perpetual energy is not green?pointless argument-ended.
now,The 2nd law of thermodynamics is more related to heat engines and perpetual motion, than this. Infact they are hardly related to perpetual motion of this kind as it doesnt operate based on two bodies of heat!both kelvin planck and Clausius describe 2nd law in terms of a device operating between two different temperature bodies. i think you mean 1st. Energy in must balance energy out + energy of the system.&then u talk abt friction..
of course by perpetual energy i mean a wayfor mankind to find a source of energy that wouldnt pollute and could be easily produced. the driving force would be gravity i suppose...along with energy to balance the pendulum enough to allow it to drop strait through. sortof like a gravity based windmill (shrugs)
out of curiosity, if the pendulum could then be allowed to fall straight through the leveler thing and say...roll wheels which in turn would create an electric charge...wouldnt that possibly be able to be a source of energy? naturally it would require power for the leveler to move...but as long as it required less energy than it would put out...well...perpetual energy? probobally not for lots of reasons...but, just curious.
even using gravity? i mean i understand what youre trying to say but im not sure youre getting what i may mean. lets put it this way: how much energy would it take to stand the pendulum up? and if the pendulum then fell strait down (using gravity) how much energy could its weight (rolling wheels to produce electric charge as it falls) would it produce? as long as it produced more energy than it uses...it might be possible. doubt it though.
Unfortunately the powers that be have conditioned the world to think that all energy is always conserved, and that a system is unable to releace more energy than is put into it.
I'll prove them wrong, look out for my name in a few years.
Energy is nether created or destroyed, therefore a machine transferring one kind of energy to another cannot make more. The outcome is always less then what is put in.
ITs what that technology leds to, chances are things like this will be used to help balance robots etc. Ever seen the robot Japan made that can ride bikes? Its fucking pointless but it will be useful for invention to come.
I think this is with Fuzzy controlling csikjarudi! (bar mondhatnam magyarul is :)) Inverted pendulum is a typical example for that! I did this in MATLAB simulation!
Fuzzy logic is absolutely not necessary for the item. Germans did it before WWII with vacuum tubes and nowadays I'm doing it with few general purpose OpAmps and a pair of automotive actuators. ;) See my unfinished experiment - first try.
The team tries to control the stick in vertical position and they to gives upright from rest position. It takes a lot of electronics, physics and math work. I'd like to see the bloopers...! Very clean job.
I guess you used nonlinear control for swing up, and after switched to a simple PID-like linear control for upright equilibrium point. Nice job, by the way.
Do you have a paper published anywhere that we can have a look at the details of the controller? Especially for those that don't know what cascaded linear state feedback is. Also, did you tune the state estimation and friction compensation by hand, or did you use some kind of machine learning?
he didn't reprogram it. He appears to have used the printer's slider and servo motor and he feeds all information on the positioning of the pendulum mount to a PIC. At least that's what I think...
Very nice. But don't get too carried away, Segway's have been doing this for years in the real world at 20kph over uneven surfaces... with your noggin as the pendulum!
i was also looking for the music, but thats nice... once i saw a robit like this at the nürburg ring (gernamy) it was a wheel and on the wheel was a ball... my english is not very good... so i think you can imagine what i mean^^
Lmao! everyone found this searching for Pendulum tunes!hahaha! that is a bad ass little robot for sure!! someone please remake this with "girl in the fire" in the background! :D
Fucking *awesome*. Magnus Linderoth and Kristian Soltesz rock -- you even have mad scientist names already! Your robot is really good at what it does. I'll bet you could easily make one that works in both x and y dimensions -- if you haven't already! And then, from there, it's only a short hop to world domination and NONSTOP SEX! Thanks for posting this! Rock on!
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rukrul 3 weeks ago
Hi, great job I'm just interested, have you used fuzzy logic or PID controller?
kerefekaa 1 month ago
What does your closed loop transfer function look like?
crazymuthaphukr 2 months ago
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crazymuthaphukr 2 months ago
frikkin awesome !
munish4u911ex 2 months ago
Is the control system using fuzzy logic?
Emrys7 3 months ago
how the fuck did i end up here
rivert1to1last1save 3 months ago 6
@rivert1to1last1save no idea
TheRednaster 3 months ago
that's cool
SomeAznDudeOrDudes 3 months ago
cool!!!
Nitro2911 3 months ago
Why would anyone dislike this video?
ramedlol 5 months ago
@ramedlol jealously... - v -
i was totally impressed too~
ArlentiousCypth 2 months ago
Is it possible to set the controler to keep angles other than 90 degrees?
xistoxs 5 months ago
@xistoxs That would mean having a really long track and an accelerating robot/controller. Since at different angles force due to gravity would not cancel to normal force... simple physics.
ijpulidos 4 months ago
how do you measure the angle?
ahem88 6 months ago
@ahem88 I'm guessing they used a rotary encoder
lubey111 6 months ago
I sure hope Skynet doesn't see this.
RussianAssassin21 7 months ago
Dude that's NICE!
VortexNL 8 months ago
to be honest i pooped my pants when i saw this
Peeze16 9 months ago
holy shit dude.. my instructor told me inverted pendulums were really cool. now i believe him!
hhaidar90 10 months ago
hola amigo una pregunta como lo hiciste puedes alludarme
marcleny 10 months ago
Do you have any publication?
uranio256mx 11 months ago
i like it alot, i like your control methodology appears very heuristic, are you using some sort of pseudo-inverse compensator for position control and disturbance rejection? or are you using a predictive controller like DMC? i'd be very interested in hearing your general approach to the control problem
bradder555 1 year ago
awesome
llamadodesombras 1 year ago
i want to d that!!!:(
locomondoss 1 year ago
Gr8 job. I remember doing this in control lab two years ago. We had linear control (only holds when it is almost upright) and non-linear control, which worked much like the way it does here.
TheEEStudent 1 year ago
what control algorithme and how many feedback state.
TOPTHL 1 year ago
tugas pak arif nih
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hello dude, i am very much interested in this project. can you explain abt the schematics you have used. please mail me at gautham.mce@gmail.com atleast give me a reference about this project
gauthamvg 1 year ago
nicceeee control is that ur bacherol project or u just made it for fub :)
mox889 1 year ago
pretty cool
Zetune79 1 year ago
I don't know a lot unduly about it but such a device after the proper alteration it is possible in order to apply in two-legged robots
Liizardd 1 year ago
fulamak!!! whew!!! holly shit mannn!!! can i buy 1!!! hahahaha
marangkerapu2002 2 years ago
thats pretty cool
sniperspikes 2 years ago
do u have sensor for the angular velocity (dφ/dt)? cause i didn't have so i calculated it with the simulink program
giorgos11235 2 years ago
Väldigt coolt
snuffsan 2 years ago
lol i want 1
kidspranqe 2 years ago
that is nice...
polypolyman 2 years ago
nice sensory feedback system.. that should be worth a time watching..^^.
Aburagara 2 years ago
Wow! great! are you using a printers motor?
i have an old inkjet with a bipolar stepper, 7.5 deg. did you think that would make it, also.. what encoders did you put to get the angle?
thanks
albertorg 2 years ago
holly shit
alexdixeysk8 3 years ago
it loads ages :S
sunynight3 3 years ago 6
The balancing of an inverted pendulum is a major feat of Control Engineering. This technique is majorly employed Auto, Aero & Space industry.. glad u posted ur demonstration.
greytin81 3 years ago 3
Wow~amazing~^^
Johnch1982 3 years ago
wow, impressive
y0urcl0ne 3 years ago
amazing~zz
JaeyoungYun 3 years ago
I wish sometimes that the reward of my hours of hard work was to be a dick to a robot too. Well done.
Vicious516 3 years ago
You know eventually that robot is going to get sick of you fucking with it and then we'll all die
Deathwing2 3 years ago 65
i know, they will be sorry
Borrelaas 3 years ago
@Deathwing2
Hahahahaha
jublywubly 1 year ago
lmfao omg wtf i love it
lolatstufff 3 years ago
Amazing ;O
TheGT4sm 3 years ago
woah! awesome!
thatsmybutt 3 years ago
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I can do something similar with a broom on the palm of my hand. Amazing that you created this.
BPx3 3 years ago
This amased me I think you're very talented
rasmusxp 3 years ago
great work
can u plz mention the major components you have used
If not all plz tell us the type of motor used(and some specification) over here
urmish 3 years ago
Your not alone, brother.
0onathano0 3 years ago
Same here haha.
liquidgold1 3 years ago
Great work!
chentediazs 3 years ago 2
nice work
masterchiefirl 3 years ago 2
lol stop interfering the machine is trying to do its job! =P you keep messing with it
spikespeigel 3 years ago 2
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this is a boring algorithm!
entjoynes 3 years ago
Nice one.
JohnM3D 3 years ago
Very High!!!!! @__@
tiagox2007z 3 years ago
very clever :)
PHOG1 3 years ago
wow really cleaver the way it times it's self to catch it back on the swing.....impresive.
chrisjako 3 years ago
you should have pendulum playing in the background
cupmike 3 years ago 3
as a mechanical engineering student this is the awsomest (no such word) . really really neat. thumbs up
casper911ca 3 years ago
ibet tht machines getting really pissed of ilmao
jimbolimboboy 3 years ago 2
Well said govna'
tonyeddie 3 years ago
no,perpetual energy is not green?pointless argument-ended.
now,The 2nd law of thermodynamics is more related to heat engines and perpetual motion, than this. Infact they are hardly related to perpetual motion of this kind as it doesnt operate based on two bodies of heat!both kelvin planck and Clausius describe 2nd law in terms of a device operating between two different temperature bodies. i think you mean 1st. Energy in must balance energy out + energy of the system.&then u talk abt friction..
huangming44 3 years ago
jag alskar fysik! tack for the video
azure8472 3 years ago
i want 1! just for the sake of it!!
Marika4u 3 years ago
THATS not what perpetual energy means.. gee i link this to show my friend something and theres always these people..talking about .... eugh stuff it.
and perpetual energy is not green energy. totally TOTALLY unrelated.
huangming44 3 years ago
of course by perpetual energy i mean a wayfor mankind to find a source of energy that wouldnt pollute and could be easily produced. the driving force would be gravity i suppose...along with energy to balance the pendulum enough to allow it to drop strait through. sortof like a gravity based windmill (shrugs)
johnnyzondo 3 years ago
out of curiosity, if the pendulum could then be allowed to fall straight through the leveler thing and say...roll wheels which in turn would create an electric charge...wouldnt that possibly be able to be a source of energy? naturally it would require power for the leveler to move...but as long as it required less energy than it would put out...well...perpetual energy? probobally not for lots of reasons...but, just curious.
johnnyzondo 3 years ago
"as long as it required less energy than it would put out"
Therein lies your problem. The second law of thermodynamics essentially means that we can never build something for which this is true.
johnw188 3 years ago
even using gravity? i mean i understand what youre trying to say but im not sure youre getting what i may mean. lets put it this way: how much energy would it take to stand the pendulum up? and if the pendulum then fell strait down (using gravity) how much energy could its weight (rolling wheels to produce electric charge as it falls) would it produce? as long as it produced more energy than it uses...it might be possible. doubt it though.
johnnyzondo 3 years ago
Unfortunately the powers that be have conditioned the world to think that all energy is always conserved, and that a system is unable to releace more energy than is put into it.
I'll prove them wrong, look out for my name in a few years.
BenJHare 3 years ago
Energy is nether created or destroyed, therefore a machine transferring one kind of energy to another cannot make more. The outcome is always less then what is put in.
Br0k3nS41nt 3 years ago
it should balance something a lot bigger, that would be even more awesome
agmarkis 3 years ago
i love it lol
omgz0mbie 3 years ago
lol a balancing robot XD great job!!!
Ryumaru1 3 years ago
good job !
Croscet 3 years ago
this is awesome
stevendenney 3 years ago
What would happen to it in an earthquake?
line321 3 years ago
i thought it might have been coma reversed
sclemzoid 3 years ago
lol was also looking for dnb but what the hell it's pretty cool
awhintersday 3 years ago
awsome! 5/5
NiXAeternus 3 years ago
wtf y would any one waste thier time making that!!!
manicmushrom 3 years ago
ITs what that technology leds to, chances are things like this will be used to help balance robots etc. Ever seen the robot Japan made that can ride bikes? Its fucking pointless but it will be useful for invention to come.
poloptree 3 years ago
i supose so
manicmushrom 3 years ago
thats awesome
rnwepc 3 years ago
think we all were lookin for DnB
PRETTY NUTS THOUGH
nathleedstothebone 3 years ago
i was lookin 4 drum n bass, this ain't that awesome...
TurnerOund343 3 years ago
Lol me too
RoyyGreene 3 years ago
YH man, i looked at this WHILE playing pendulum. Trippy...
poloptree 3 years ago
lol ye pendulum (Y)
haha oh welll still rather coool
dahockeydude 3 years ago
yep
pennermo 3 years ago
me too lol
DrakosCX 3 years ago
pretty impressive.
xxbenskixx 3 years ago
awesome. I want one, I don't care how it works I just want one lolz.
matthopekids 3 years ago
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How sad is this guy? I mean come on, he is wearing a puma top! 90's!
grimdigger 3 years ago
I was searching for the band pendulum... but this video is pretty cool ^^
BrunoDerBaer87 3 years ago 4
me too ))
marcosjoy 3 years ago 2
lol yea I though that this was some new song that I had never heard of lol xD
camperkid 3 years ago
same
cheesewithtoast 3 years ago
I think this is with Fuzzy controlling csikjarudi! (bar mondhatnam magyarul is :)) Inverted pendulum is a typical example for that! I did this in MATLAB simulation!
U2ymee 3 years ago
Fuzzy logic is absolutely not necessary for the item. Germans did it before WWII with vacuum tubes and nowadays I'm doing it with few general purpose OpAmps and a pair of automotive actuators. ;) See my unfinished experiment - first try.
schabanow 3 years ago
What an incredibly cool and pointless invention :D
jclwhite 3 years ago
What do you mean - "pointless"? All rockets now use this "useless" invention though.
schabanow 3 years ago
you know what would make this perfect?
slam in the background ;)
codderz 3 years ago 18
Thats officially the best comment i've ever seen!
Congrats ^^
6Banner9 3 years ago 4
this is on waverlyflams favorites
lightningblade17 3 years ago
That's how I found it.
Imij11 3 years ago
hey me too
beca60 3 years ago
me too
tamedmind 3 years ago
me too^2
dethxklok 3 years ago
Amazing piece of machinery :D
Jaketoshiba 3 years ago
whats this about?...someone explain, PLEASE?!
SweeneyB135x 3 years ago
The team tries to control the stick in vertical position and they to gives upright from rest position. It takes a lot of electronics, physics and math work. I'd like to see the bloopers...! Very clean job.
guillecrawley 3 years ago 3
I guess you used nonlinear control for swing up, and after switched to a simple PID-like linear control for upright equilibrium point. Nice job, by the way.
csikjarudi 3 years ago
haha thats cool =]
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matt956 3 years ago
Do you have a paper published anywhere that we can have a look at the details of the controller? Especially for those that don't know what cascaded linear state feedback is. Also, did you tune the state estimation and friction compensation by hand, or did you use some kind of machine learning?
Gicior 3 years ago
very good job!!
hrvatV 3 years ago
nice idea
kg6abb 3 years ago 2
Awesome!
Kubric 4 years ago
Which control technique was used in this pendulum??? Fuzzy, linear, nonlinear???
Yarza84 4 years ago
PID :D
Tsunmys 4 years ago
dont tell me u reprogrammed a printer !!? this is freakin brilliant !!
dustjunkey 4 years ago
he didn't reprogram it. He appears to have used the printer's slider and servo motor and he feeds all information on the positioning of the pendulum mount to a PIC. At least that's what I think...
Kourtakias 4 years ago
I can do something like that .... with my nose but this is much cooler :)
1991larsJ 4 years ago
pretty cool
drendedrater 4 years ago
awesome.. I wish I could build sth like that in the future...
owenik1989 4 years ago
cruel cool!
b4parkour 4 years ago
CHUNE!!!
mrffoeg 4 years ago
Wauw, that's cool :D Its fun to see, it looks like the computer get annoyed xD
Alex3330 4 years ago
what kind of control it uses?
ruskiikoshka 4 years ago
Very nice. But don't get too carried away, Segway's have been doing this for years in the real world at 20kph over uneven surfaces... with your noggin as the pendulum!
Still... quite an accomplishment.
ldaza1 4 years ago
This 'thing' + Pendulum music in this clip will be great :)
Ossinio6 4 years ago
hell yeah! *fasten your seatbelts*
play179 4 years ago
ROFL^^
becksorcist 4 years ago
cookie for you ^ ^
codderz 3 years ago
That's really cool :)
a51ts2 4 years ago
maybe a development for earthquakes would be nice to be implemented from this invention.. cool stuff man.
dpatulea 4 years ago 2
U have no idea dude rofl
Boomproof 4 years ago
i told my friends about this vid. They just can't believe this had been implemented in real life.... LOL engineering ftw!!!!
pyrokinetikrlz 4 years ago
That's amazing :D
Much more impressive than Pendulum the band have ever done ;)
DJFlyteUK 4 years ago
Shit va cool :D
StripedStripes 4 years ago
i was also looking for the music, but thats nice... once i saw a robit like this at the nürburg ring (gernamy) it was a wheel and on the wheel was a ball... my english is not very good... so i think you can imagine what i mean^^
xXSamariterXx 4 years ago
i was looking for pendulum music, but this robot is simply awesome. Inverted pendulum is a classic problem in control engineering. CONTROL FTW
pyrokinetikrlz 4 years ago 5
lol
emmetyousee 4 years ago
doesnt this type of stuff get you a medal or something...?
DrGerbick 4 years ago
Lmao! everyone found this searching for Pendulum tunes!hahaha! that is a bad ass little robot for sure!! someone please remake this with "girl in the fire" in the background! :D
sucmydohc 4 years ago
I searched for Pendulum lol.
illegalkid2 4 years ago
sorry to say but +1
DJLordstar 4 years ago
Thats evil =) can you make your robot dance to pendulum please...
Perfect64 4 years ago
Dude. Awesome.
alexOfDeath 4 years ago 4
wtf?:-D imba m8
Rockicz 4 years ago 2
Fucking *awesome*. Magnus Linderoth and Kristian Soltesz rock -- you even have mad scientist names already! Your robot is really good at what it does. I'll bet you could easily make one that works in both x and y dimensions -- if you haven't already! And then, from there, it's only a short hop to world domination and NONSTOP SEX! Thanks for posting this! Rock on!
johnclavis 4 years ago 12
cooool.....!!!
mapcHeymep 4 years ago 2
thats s1ck!!!
ALLTHOUGH it does lack drum and bass background music
steve0619 4 years ago 2
awesome! how did you make it do that?
Alejampski 4 years ago 3
Skithäftigt!
HaxxBlaster 4 years ago
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this isnt pendulum, whers the drum and bass
mynameizcasanova 4 years ago
niceee
launger 4 years ago 3
nbr lan :D
powerfultr 4 years ago
wow!
maku1989 4 years ago
Need program ^^
WtfCc 4 years ago
reallllllllllly nice
how does the maths work? :)
joethegod 4 years ago
Gostei de ver, vou montar um.
regiscruzbr 4 years ago
its an old dot matrix printer that learned a new trick!!
ps this is actually really neat
djenduro 4 years ago 2
thts actually quite amazin
mattbrap 4 years ago
Awesome!!!
parrebuff 4 years ago
It looks alive :)
Flatlegs 4 years ago
wicked!
amjwUK 4 years ago
Wow,Kristian. Splendid design and real-time response !!! I think your moving algorithm after perturbation is so instantaneous.
milkykung 4 years ago
ah thats a cheat i know you put viagra in that computer xD
30mate 4 years ago 4
nice & amazing!
howzeman 4 years ago
wow. i was searching for DnB but this video was still worth watching. that looked like it took some really good programming skills. nice job.
geolab101 4 years ago
ye i was looking for dnb too maybe stik a trak on in the bakground like spor outbroken or snthin
wurth987456 4 years ago
lol i was searching for drum and bass :P
yomumisminging 4 years ago
Thats some impressive shit!
daveyj1986 4 years ago