Dr. David Griffin BBC 10-SEPT-2006 (Part 1)

[tom500k]

Excellent, frightening, urgently need posting. Much thanks to Dr. Griffin & Trottbrown for pointing out the the fact that the government and mainstream media theories of 9/11 are themselves conspiracy theories. Certainly, Trottbrown is most reasonable in suggesting that the views of Dr. Griffen et al. should more usefully and accurately be labeled "critical thought" in contrast to the gov's official narrative or official but implausible propagandistic conspiracy theory.

[getkeef]

Amazing work. Props to the BBC. Much respect to the good Doctor.

[TheFirstUntouched1]

Amazing work!!!! Very informal

[bman342]

"When you look at the evidence for the official theory it all evaporates". Really, Dave? This nutjob is still trying to get people to believe that the passenger jets did not fly into the WTC towers, or the pentagon, or crash in Shanksville. He tries to make the actual hijacking sound so unlikely, yet that is in FACT what happened. And hijacking have happened thousands of times before. He wants us to believe all the voices were morphed. Can we all do the Twilight Zone theme in unison, please?

[AmericasFan]

Wow! 10 characteristics and yet not a single controlled demolition expert in the world thinks the Twin Towers were a controlled demolition.

[CheekyMonkey888]

For a theologian Griffin makes a basic error. The Romans renamed Israel Palestine, a mispronunciation of Philistine, after the destruction of the Second Temple, long after Jesus' death

[bman342]

@CheekyMonkey888 Thanks for pointing that out, as I was about to. But I found it quite telling that he referred to the population as the "palestinian people".

[bluesuit5]

This guy is a complete jackass. His studies are filled with false information and lacking true facts. Gee, where are the people who were onboard the 757 that hit the pentagon? Maybe theyre all on vacation in Maui. The size and dem. of the damage to the bldg match that of a 757. I think this jackass still believes in santa clause, the easter bunny and is a member of the flat earth society. It is what it is, period. The United States got caught with its pants down.

[psoutrage]

dr griffin the smartest man alive. I believe and so should everyone else. Hit 2 buildings and WTC 7 falls all by its self. now SMART people would come to realize by now mr.bush is to blame

[niverent]

I don't believe Iran-Contra happened...it's just a crazy conspiracy theory.

[DrZenith]

What an absurd and ridiculous theory; but we already know the U.S. is a paradise for conspiracy theorists of all kinds; from UFOs to JFK's assasination and now this. What utter nonsense.

[DanishTeacher]

Is laws of physics nonsens? Watch loose change and get to know more. :)

[seans10]

You're a teacher? I pity your students.

[9Heartbits]

you must be too uneducated...

[Trottbrown]

thanks for posting it. calling these ideas a "conspiracy" is simply a way of discrediting any line of thought that oppose the official version of events. Rather than conspiracy theories, we could call this critical thought?

[seans10]

Anyone else notice that NO major physicists make the argument made by this half-witted theologian? I'm pretty sure every living Nobel Prize winning scientist has seen the footage of those building fall, yet for some reason it's this clown and Charlie Sheen who "get it." The rest of us are just sheep. LOL.

[Jebusrulez]

Your completely right. I wonder where all the those people who died on flight 77 are Griffin you asshole. Please give me more evidence then this.

[niverent]

Just watch "Zero: An investigation into 9/11." It's on youtube. You will see that your claim in 100% false. There is literally a Nobel Prize Winning scientist in the film that "gets it." The only people that don't "get it" are people that don't want to.

[seans10]

The only Nobel Prize winner I can google that comes up in association with that film is Dario Fo, a left-wing WRITER from Italy who won the Nobel for LITERATURE in 1997. Did you even watch the film you cite?

[niverent]

Well, I agree that a nobel prize for lit. is not the same a s physics.  You seem to place alot of stock in the fact that no nobel prize winning physicist has come out against official story. Does that mean if one does come out against it you will switch sides?

[bill0756]

Griffin articulates well although Jones and Gage have more solid scientific proof. I thought he was one of the weaker conspiracy proponents, but this helps correct my poor view of him. Congrats BBC for bringing another great interview to the USA...I didn't see any such lucid interview of Griffin or Jones or Gage on US tv.

[tigerdraft]

Dr David Griffin is sadly deluded. There is no conspiracy theory which stands up on this.

[Natashathompson]

Go here to see what has been done to this mans mind.

/watch?v=IXQikj-C1tk

It is just common sense. Shayler was in good shape psychologically, and then suddenly after he began speaking of NPT he declares himself the messiah. The sudden change in his mental state follows immediately after several sessions he had with a "psychic". It's all just a little too pat.

[blighty55]

all you have to do is ask yourself why a building full of explosives was still standing after the planes hit and when the fires were burning.. Why didn't the explosives go off then and there? listening is cool...but try to think a bit at the same time.

[zionistsevil]

All you have to ask yourself is building 7 brought down by a couple of small fires, while closer buildings were burnt to a shell, but remained standing.

Oh but they didn't contain results to the 2000 rigged election, and a load of other CIA embarrassments.

Didn't Silverman say "pull it", and presto down it came. Something that takes weeks to organise, was miraculously done in hours, in a burning building.

Good one Zionists.

[DemocracyFirst]

William Rodriguez heard and felt explosions coming from below the first sub-level while working in the basement of the North Tower. Felipe David, who was severely burned from the basement explosions was rescued by Rodriquez. How does a jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man's arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within seconds of impact? So, your question should not be "Why DIDN't explosives go off...", but rather, "Why DID explosives go off?" Google it.

[mjmksu2007]

its called elevator shafts, burning jet fuel

[DemocracyFirst]

Although disputed by some, Rodriguez said, "Seconds after the first massive explosion below in the basement...I hear another explosion from way above. Although I was unaware at the time, this was the airplane hitting the tower..." So, basement explosion came before the plane hit the tower? Regardless, WTC 1, 2, and 7 collapsed at near free-fall speed into their own footprints. Great for Larry Silverstein--no more asbestos problems. And Bush got his Pearl Harbor. How convenient! It defies logic.

[AmericasFan]

@DemocracyFirst

Evidence shows that it was fires that wend down the elevator shafts. Hundreds of witnesses saw and heard these fireballs. Rodriguez and others probably still don't know what it was.

[Amicus1952]

@AmericasFan

I find that extremely difficult if not impossible to believe. Those shafts with their 4 hour fire walls are designed and constructed (expensive and difficult to do) to prevent that scenario (among others). Another design flaw? If so why haven't buildings around the world built under the same codes been immediately remodeled to correct that deadly flaw?

I don't know what exactly happened that day...I do know that the "official" report is at best, difficult to swallow.

[AceMcFool]

My conspiracy theory is that Mel Gibson is funding this guy and similar nutcases.

Gawd. What a moron.

[skivosa]

You can't prove him wrong, so where are you coming from with your insults? Just slandering people makes you look very foolish. This stuff is no joke, the evidence does point toward an American empire.

[GraceofGod758]

Did he fail to mention the full tank of jet fuel that EXPLODED into an INFERNO upon impact? Yes, I think he failed to mention that. Roll out the stretcher, another moron is being admitted into Psych. (Oh, but he's an oh so smart one, isn't he?) That explosion sound on the video was the building beginning to collapse onto itself. Take your meds, doc.

[ddarche]

Hey GraceofGod,

Do some research yourself on the web. There are dozens of articles, photos, movies with scientific proof which indicates the airline fuel was gone in about 20 minutes and NEVER could have melted nor deformed the amount of steel which was in any of the three buildings.

[EdZep123]

No one's denying the airplane fuel caused a fire. Do you honestly think that those fires brought down two 100 storey steel structures. The Bu$h administration were responsible or at least let it happen. It's far less ridiculous than the official story. Maybe you should read up on the Illuminati. This world is run by corporations. 655,000 people killed in Iraq, just for oil.

[MikeT2005]

I believe those fires brought down the building because I have read independant studies published in Engineering journals from across the world, and they all agree that it is possible for fires plus structural damages to bring it down.

However, I do not believe they had an opportunity for a thorough investigation so I'm open to theories.

[EdZep123]

Apparently, no steel structured skyscraper has ever fallen because of fire. I don't doubt that you've read those articles I just doubt how "independent" they are.

[Superphilipp]

Well, how many full-size airplanes have ever burned up inside steel structured skyscrapers before?

[niverent]

I don't understand why this guy is getting thumbs down. I don't agree with him but he doesn't sound like a closed-minded jackass. Good for you for being open.

[skivosa]

The learned people will take over polotics.  Reopen 911.

[GraceofGod758]

The learned people should learn how to spell politics.

[skivosa]

My bad. Spelling was never my best subject. In school, I was more interested in real things, like not being bullied by insecure assholes. I leave many comments on many pages, so I don't check my spelling all the time. If you disagree with me, why don't you argue with substance?

[frostymxer]

Griffin Rocks!