MONEYBALL PRO PAINTBALL WEEKLY EVAN MONEY

[Thrasher76]

evertything is good just have to remove the line of possession , just get to the hang zone with teamwork.

[D1rtyTactics]

hears a good game idea

you only have 30 seconds to a bunker if u dont move you stand in the middle and get lit up

that would be a pretty fast intense game

[evo4b11x]

its way to simple its kinda like playing a simple board game and if you look at soccer football and even golf they have all kinds of rules psp and the old nppl formats work great there is a hole lot of action going on all ready n a good way to film paintball would b air cams and side line cams no on field cams unless there fixed on a bunker with some sort of wiper blades so if they get shot they can b cleaned and still record line of possetion not totaly down with that needs work

[BldBthMtlHd]

This is absolute crap...Since there is no breakout, that takes a huge aspect out of the game...The line of possession makes a fast game almost too fast. If you're a track runner, you are going to dominate. Basically with this, back players go extinct. If this is the format that X games adopt it will be a tragedy to all the old school ballers that made this sport so great.

[thebigd1993]

this actually has potential though I dont like that if you have the flag you eliminate the other players alongside you

[mango8179]

I would try it if there wasnt a line of possession that takes the whole stratageay of paintball away

[tclisem]

This format is hideous! I can slap my last name on a format and say its the best format ever!

April 06, 2007 - was when this video was added

LTZ - Doesn't exist anymore in the ONLY major paintball league, PSP

Its now almost 2009 - and NO ONE PLAYS this format!

^Simple as ever! This format was dead while it was on paper!

[jswift79]

i dont like the idea of:

-the flag is situated on top of a bunk?? LOL

-elimination rule about the flag being pushed towards the defense

-i hope this new pb format isnt played in the sand? LOL

[pntbllr1993]

paintball isnt even paintball with this format. you dont even need a gun. just need to run past the other team with a flag.

thumbs down.

[NOSPDLIMIT]

Not that impressed. Its still hard to follow for the first time viewer and thats whats makes paintball difficult to put on tv. Why not come up with ZONES on a paintball field. Color them, and use the players as focus points. Much like the red zone in NPPL. Maybe the rules are, if you have one more player in that zone then the other team loses a player in the same zone. Its just a thought.

[AmadoChalhoub123]

sounds kinda cool :S

[Alarm4321]

this is just dumb. Like this will kill paintball

[IgnoranceInABag]

so i can just grab the flag and run? and sincie i dont have to worry about shooting people i can run much faster and eliminate a couple of guys? retarded

[p8ntbllr42]

he just wants to turn paintball into a spectator sport.that way more people watch,its more exciting for the spectatotrs to watch,easier to understand whats going on,outside sponsors,more public media.Hence the name "moneyball" it will make him more money,notice how money has nothing to do with this format.He doesnt care about the players he only cares about making money off of us.

[budviser37]

make paintball better? Seems more like it'd ruin paintball as we know it. Instead of a team strategy to move up the field everyone would just shoot the flag. Oh and don't even think about making a move off the break, guns up would equal half of each team out from the start. If this is where paintball goes, i quit, anyone want a brand new borg RX?

[kupb8709]

best format for the xgames? umm...xball? not good enough for him huh. and as far as the camera man not knowing where to focus, someone makes a move up the field/snake, they are going to do some damage, you look at them, and where they are shooting, or where the other team couters that move.

[djdynamite36]

I think the PSP is on track with how telivised Paintball needs to be. World cup 2008 anyone?...This format will never work. 5 man X ball For The Win

[NBPaintballer]

Run past them and there eliminated? LOL

[SCSUDoyle17]

agreed, what happened to shooting people?

this is lame.

[dozer2003]

The games in the video were fast paced and exciting, but it wouldn't work that way if people were really playing.

[therobrocks]

this will hurt not help the game of paintball. paintball is based on shooting not running. take away that fact and you have robbed all the players out there who have honed these skills. one question... who is this better for the players, the watchers, or mr. money? i think we all know

[bmxman7]

i love ur website but your game is horrible. it takes out all stratagy that regular paintball has and the whole consept of the line elimination sux. it takes no skill to eliminate someone that way.

[contractkillaz]

i dont like it.... boooo

[polak01331]

wow no i will go on a killer rampage if this is put on tv

[atoughpunk]

the refs attract way too much attention to the player with the flag, and the format is just for the greedy corporations to make more money. Yeah, we may get money, but the love of the game is being lost

[RAFMALMOL]

i did not like the new style.

"atoughpunk

the refs attract way too much attention to the player with the flag, and the format is just for the greedy corporations to make more money. Yeah, we may get money, but the love of the game is being lost "

i agree 1000% with you!

[vrsurplus]

Commentary is good and layout of video. But as for the concept... I believe that your idea is good at heard and theory. And if someone wants to play this kind of ball, then let them. However, It looks a little too fast, not enough excitement built up and a few others but I'm running out of word count. I have a few ideas on how they can film. #1, helment cams are always good. 2 air cams, 2 ground. Nothing more is needed except good camera crew, not so much edit. Just my thoughts! Good Luck!

[dangobar]

the concept is quite cool

but the field is very small, and to "overrun players" seems a bit easy to me,

but its cool to see a different game style

[Sonik02]

Ok i can see that they want to make some changes so that it can become a better sport to watch. Lets face it, if we want the sport to grow and take form for people world wide to enjoy we need to make some changes. Not only that but please watch the "angels and demons" video they have on here. Paintball has gotten a pretty bad rep of late...change is going to happen the only thing you can do is learn the new and remeber the old days.

[kruegs55]

this comment board sound like a bunch of middle school kids, we'll see what your saying if NPPL or PSP pick this up. What is it with people and change??

[F33NY]

Theres something wrong with this change. It seems un-paintball like to be eliminated without being shot just because someone ran past you. Although this game of moneyball was played very poorly, I think if played right, the person grabbing the flag would just be like someone hitting snake 2 off the break, everyone would be on him.

[mrmarc9]

when some one is taken off the field when they are clean thats not exciting just stupid

[SuXxarD]

Evan Money = douche bag.

Who cares, just play xbl, psp, or nppl.

[jrjito88]

this is not moneyball is gayball

[punchbunch]

I don't like it, it needs to be harder for the attackers, not to mention the whole idea of trying to make paintball a spectator sport. It is designed to be played, not watched.

[CentralHS75]

GHEY!

[slayor91]

no get this crap outa here we need some psp xball or sumthing other than this crap

xgames is for extreme sports money ball isnt extreme its boring

[h702k]

No.

Just no.

[SloEG1]

line of possession is HORRIBLE!!! moneyball needs to die

[xsvdude]

The line of possesion is so go. So is the hang line. This is so gay!!!

[fastfingerguy]

this is so stupid , this just ruins the sport of paintball ,

leave it the way it is and put nppl / psp in/ on the x games !!

[Bigram70]

i hope this dies horribly and is never mentioned again. This basically dumbs down the sport of paintball. Even money talks down to you, what a horrible plan. Now you don't have to shoot people just run by them =D. while your at it just make it so when you point your marker at people they are out also.

[TrinitypaintballPiMp]

GAY! put psp, nxl in the xgames not this stupid shit

[dontshoot21]

i have an idea, why not put X Ball in the X Games? hmmm? just a thought

[wazzup34746]

oh and think about this how many bad calls do u think theres going to be......like ppl saying i hit him before he ran past me or i ran past him before i was shot blah blah blah

[wazzup34746]

ohh and btw if this crap gets in the x games or on espn u will totaly destroy the sport.....i would rather watch armwrestling and cup stacking rather than monkeyball

[wazzup34746]

i was excited to see how it was really going to be like......and then i watched the video. wtf is up with the line of possession what kind of bullshit is that....work kinks out because i would never even consider playing this garbage

[beerncott]

What ever happened to bonusballing ppl to get them out this possesion thing is like close to the gayest thing iv ever head u could just rush the whole field in like 3 sec

[roger32026]

WOW, who ever made this up is scared to get shot!!!

[EclipsePB109]

over all the line of possesion is just to stop bunkering (after i said that pretend there was a homo sound in the air) why change paintball tho its already perfect

[saifoda]

Yeah, none of that "line of posession" crap. Evan thinks that it "makes the game more fast paced and exciting." I say the only thing it's going to do is create a rush for the center flag, a bunch of quick eliminations and once the center flag is captured the guy is simply going to run past everybody and they're automatically eliminated -- they would have to shoot him down FROM THE BACK in about 1-2 seconds by the time he gets the flag.

[gutcassady]

Line of posession= no... Very no. The only way to be eliminated should be by getting shot.

Central flags= yes. It's been done before, but never in a major format. Good idea.

Line of scrimmage (or whatever it was called)... eh... whatever.. no big difference really.

I kinda liked it, but the line of posession rule is dumb. If that rule sticks, i can see it becoming the equivalent of offsides don't want the rule to go so it stays.. There are no "Moneyball" Purists to defend that rule.

[gutcassady]

typo. Between "Offsides" and "Dont". >>>

"...in soccer, except in that case players and purists..."

[saifoda]

Now about the name -- I know you like to see your name up on there and everything, but the simple fact of it is is that "moneyball" has nothing to do with money. Have you ever seen the "Who wants to talk to Regis Philbin show?" no -- you've seen "who wants to be a millionaire?" I know money is your name -- but the other fact is that money is, well....money. Take that and run with it, or call the game someting else.

[saifoda]

Secondly -- he makes the point about the cameras. Evan, have you SEEN football recently? Do you have any idea how many cameras are used at those games? There are over 130 cameras used at the Superbowl, I think paintball companies need to lower their expectations of how few cameras they can use -- using the one camera sucks anyways. Have you ever watched any sport that only has one or two or three cameras on field? Maybe underwater basketweaving...

[saifoda]

I guess I'll start with constructive criticism here: This sport STILL doesn't center on anything -- from what I see in the video, the only thing that happens is that the bunker with the flag is colored different than the rest of them -- the QB in football isn't wearing a clown suite to make him different from the rest of his team. Unless you're a retard and never seen paintball before ever in your life, the idea of changing the bunker color is a moot point.

[saifoda]

Come on guys -- enough with the "faggot" and "retard" and "boring" flaming comments. Yeah this sucks. it sucks a lot, I would never play this format. Having said that, you guys aren't HELPING this thing get any better. Moneyball is a format that is trying to grow our sport which, in case you don't know, is not going to grow anymore unless a drastic change happens. So if you're going to say "this sucks" at least add something to that that's constructive, or email evan.

[thl321]

dude... stfu. this blows n u know it

[saifoda]

Yeah -- I SAID it sucks. It does, it's terrible and has no creativity or really any thought put into it at all -- I think I put more thought into my post than they put into that paintball format. My point is that nobody is helping just by saying "this sucks" -- we need people to think more than these people did.

[yuyuaaron]

well, i agree this is boring

[monkeysinacan]

This sucks! they might as well be playing Laser Tag

[supermatt091]

this is stupid all it supports is machine gunnin down the field and it takes almost all the skill neccary and just make it a race to see who can pour more paint down the field and grab the flag and just run and hope no you shoots you

long story short its creative but not a fesible format

[rlandry06]

IMO this isnt fun less people get shot....... anyone can grab a flag and run past people while they are distracted....maybe a game for new players but i dont like it

[mahuna10]

Ok, I understand that everybody hates this concept of paintball. But to stay optimstic about it, I think it's good for paintball because more and more people are going to see and understand how great paintball is.

[prettyassrobin]

the guy who thought of this was the guy on the team couldnt run and gun, then thought of a dumbass solution.

long story short - fucking dumb.

[Seanyp8ntballer]

i lol'd

[WalRebel6]

GAY! i think the guy who made this got shot too many times in the head

[pntballer27]

The guy that got out without being shot was mad. I highly doubt that this will work with pros

[jordy30cappy]

the game was made for players....As soon as we take our attention of us the players and worried more about the people watching the whole point of the game is lost.

[AGGpaintballa]

its ok but as bab said, its not as intense and thrilling, and that full game at the end! the guy went off break to the flag, stayed a second and then did a run through it was over, all of 15 seconds, not cool whatsoever...

[dabxromeo]

I think with this format, we're loosing the essence of paintball and just twisting it into somethign completely different. this shouldn't even be worthy enough to be called paintball. It's not entertaining whatsoever. Where r the gun battles, high tension 1 on 1's? Just get speedy to run up the field grab the flag and eliminate half the other team by running up the field...looks like paint companies will be losing out on money on this one.

[dabxromeo]

I personally think this format sucks...i feel they r just trying to eliminate the whole theory of "killing" a player and promote less "shooting"...it's watered down and plain out sucks. All u need to do is get someone with lightning legs into the 50 grab a flag, distract a team dorito side and eliminate the other team by just blowing it up the field...hell u don't even need to shoot paint to accomplish this, if ur fast enough.

[egomaniacccc]

HELL NO. dude that sux. looking at the vid made me bored. and if ur gonna have paintball in the xgames, which is just an orgasmic idea, u should have the xball format. DUH! xgames, xball... XXXXXX!!!! we should all send feedback saying no, just no. and just like EclipsePB109 said, we cant let them change the sport we love.

[punkazn]

just do x-ball...

[BonusBallProd]

i think that we need to let xball format sink in for a while, but this is a good idea just don't know if it will fly until xball gets old.

[EclipsePB109]

this is DUMB! its conforming the sport we love, when this sport hits TV noobs will come liek flies to shit...

and its this fags last name. no, NO! it isn't more interesting. You could win without a gun. GAY GAY GAY! "thats what the fans like to see..." conforming paintball.

[eventheinnocent]

whats wrong with the old format of break out??

why not call it the line of scrimage and the n-zone so people can understand it right away, and call the players who get eliminated by the line offside eliminations, i sugest moving the flag to the dureato ... not snake side

[splitace]

paintball is good the way it is...besides, who wants to watch a sport called "Moneyball" ?????

[eventheinnocent]

ok thats clearly not true because its not on tv and snowboarding is even tho there are more paintballers then snowboarders, paintball is not ok its getting bigger every year and right now the big thing that is holding it back is the way it will be shown on tv

good point about calling it money ball tho

anothere thing that i think would help is if the guys on 1 team were all blue, not just like the lining of there jearsy amd the others were all red

[BadCompany12]

paintball in xgames is a good idea, but i think they should just use xball format.

[6Brento6]

yea i think this should b flushed down the toilet of shame

thats just crap

[Brettboat]

Paintball is a dieing sport/hobby. Airsoft is slowly takeing over the market.

[invisibledecoy]

LMMFAO, funny you say that, i hear just the opposite!!

(i'll tell you something too, i sold my Classic Army for a Smart Parts, never looked back!)

[Stencil25]

That's a lie. Paintball skipped one generation but is still growing. Is paintball is "dieing" why are more newbie tournaments than ever before? Airsoft will never take over, it cannot be classed as anything more than a game. And if it does grow, it'll be banned everywhere for using realistic designs.

[Twister60]

bs, sorry this might not be the next generation but niether is airsoft.

[KB1869]

i agree...very stupid idea...paintball is fine the way it is. don't turn it into a pussy sport like all of the other sports have become.

[Cenobyte40k]

1) Don't move the line with the flag. To complicated and subjective.

2) make the flag huge 2'x4' on a soft pole so it's easy to follow and hard to shoot with.

3) Make the flag guy hold the flag for a few sec. behind the hang line. This gives the other team time to react, kill the flag carrier and return it for a score.

5) Give points for pulling the flag and killing the flag carrier.

[photobo666]

WHAT THE **** BEING OUT WITHOUT GETTIN SHOT

WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO COMERCIALIZE PAINTBALL!!!

SPITTIN at MY MONOTOR GRRRR

[enikolayev]

this will make painball less fun to play, but to those who only watch, i suppose it would be more interesting. overall i think its a stupid idea because it makes things more complicated.

[15milesroadcrew]

THIS IS GAY!!!!!!!!!!

[kielmartin]

Worst idea ever. I would rather see senario on ESPN than this crap.

[markingNubz]

Games would go way to quickly, every thing is just sloppy, and there isn't much shooting involved... it's basicaly a race to the flag and run.

[pbboy123]

this actually a good idea. sike i got you yeah this is a bad idea not to hurt no feelings but this sux. keep normal paintball and you got yor self a deal. forst its too confusing and by looking at the comments its looks like no one like it. is there anything lower than poor to rate this vid.

[aftershizzle]

this is HORRIBLE

[JUSTYNLL]

that is the stupidest gayest type of paintball ive ever seen

[MurphyNH]

It's a good idea in theory, however due to the shorter field lengths in current tournament paintball, it's unworkable. They're the length they are to keep paint in the air to keep paint vendors happy. The length of field necessary for the line of posession to be even remotely fair would not work out well.

[toughcookie56]

i think they got something good going on here, if they can just change it up a bit and make it a bit less frustrating, it might actually make for another cool league to add along wit the NXL, NPPL, PSP, and Mellenium.

[observer0201]

paintball shouldn't even be in the X-games... X-games are solo sports (skateboarding, motocross, snowboarding, cowtipping, watever). Paintball's without a doubt a team sport.

[millz831]

this format is terrible. it may be good for the cameras but the fun factor is not there for the players.

[crash86ed]

i hate you evan money.

[mansondevil33]

I can see everyone getting frustrated with that "line of possesion" lol

[pballer391]

GAY!!!!!!

[sloag10]

This is terrible.

[sunshinez108]

LAME-0!

[sunshinez108]

This is freakin retarded. How does crossing a line make some out? Isnt shooting someone to get them out the point of paintball?

[paintball0276]

i think that a new format of play is a great idea, but im not really diggin this format.

[frontplaya04]

AMEN!

XBALL IS THE PERFECT FORMAT

[indigowulf]

Players should be permitted to shoot the flag runner from behind as he tries to make the hang zone? You have narrowed defensive stratagy to frontal assault. Would that work in the world of football or any other team sport you are trying to compete with for airtime? Interesting plays make interesting games. Don't limit our sport to frontal assault defense. Imagine all a football player had to do was make it past line of scrimmage to "block" defensive tackles. Nobody would watch that.

[indigowulf]

The idea of a hang zone, the idea of center flag, the idea of points for a "hang", all brilliant. Kill the "line of possession" kill ability and you are on to something. Again, the only way a player should be eliminated is by being hit. You are also removing that thrill of stratagy where a player is carefully placed to pick off the flag runner from behind. This element should not be removed, as it is now.

[pbandjpaintball]

horriable

[ch86e]

line of possession? the sux!!!

[johnnywoodbugs]

being eliminated by someone running past is the lamest thing I've ever seen. Where exactly is the thrill in seeing one person run past someone? jesus.. who in their right mind would actually suggest such a rule. this is paintball not track & field. You shoot your opponents!

[wmdballer]

1. horrible format, causes to much confusion and to much work for refs.

2. players eliminated without being hit?? WTF?? no way this would work out, players are eliminated for being walked past. thats not paintball.

3. if you dont play paintball you dont watch paintball. screw better tv format, paintball players will understand whats happening.

4. x-games can deal with standard play. x-ball format destroys this dunmbass idea.

[Mzakflip40]

WTF, thats the gayest thing ever. Regular speedball is way better than this crap.

[HKSoljier]

Dear god. He said "cameramans." This emoney character fails epicly. Wow, cross the "hang zone"? That's retarded. That spreads a team too thin to actually give them a proper fighting chance. The "hang line" is completely gay. How would a judge be able to determine that a player's dead to make the hang line? and why the hell is it called a hang line? It's not like they're hanging the flag there...

[Penguin545]

You misspelled though as threw? Fuckin retard go die! This is the most retarded idea I've ever heard!

[enycemjn]

this format blows...i wouldn't watchh it on ESPN

[matt36003]

I understand wanting paintball to be in the X games to allow the sport to grow but this is the dumbest fuckin game ever. ....o darn he ran past me im out.....stupid

[ndonato2]

this is the dumbest idea ever... if it's gonna be called moneyball then have the team win some money at the end.. not because your alias is emoney... this is a massive shit stain on the sport of paintball.

[ambushman15]

are you serious? that is so lame

[paintballdudecm]

wow i hate this. i understand what he is trying to do with this but this is a retarded format. everyone i have talked to thinks it's stupid. and i know hes called "e-money" but why does the name have to be moneyball? i think this will give people who already don't like paintball more reasons to make fun of it.

[teamhhkma71]

I like the idea that they're trying to take paintball 'to the next level' and the whole concept of the game. What i don't like is that its a little complicated..

[sullid413]

The whole idea of an offensive and a defensive team in paintball just because one team has the flag is stupid. Line of possession? The whole point of paintball is to be shot. You shouldn't get out because someone crawled past you in the snake. In my opinion this format is going to be harder to ref and understand then normal paintball. The moves aren't as exciting in this, you don't have great 1 v 1 battles.

[thestegersaurus]

this is by far the worst idea anyone in paintball has ever had. i hope evan money realiazes he is a douchebag and just wasted my time. if there is no need to be shot to be eliminated then why have not get rid of the guns and call it what it really would be; no contact RUGBY FOR PUSSIES.

[exrated34]

i hate the break format it sucks

[Jmannumber7]

seems VERY VERY bad especially if it is going to be on the xgames and espn because then beginners/new people will get the idea that paintball is very complicated and has many rules which will lead them to think it is too hard for them to play. if xgames wants paintball, they should use XBALL! just an idea though, i dont think that xball would work with the xgames because they both incorporate giant x's :superdodgy:

[vijil]

The format sure has some good ideas. I can see the line of elimination being very hard to enforce - players will play on without knowing they are out, which could upset things if they shoot someone out and then the play swings the other way. Very very hard to ref, that'd be the main issue.

[panther3336]

don't you kinda think that the game will go to fast or u could just get more players or big field but besides that can't wait to see moneyball in the x games

[hockeyboyths08]

The idea of moneyball is ok. Idk about the Line of Elimination bc then you are taking away the chance of a teams come back. The idea is a good but to me its just a way for them to branch off & so that its easier to be able to FILM paintball. It has the possibility to play this format but then again you also have the controversy of the Speedball & Woodsball. Which will be better? Well i guess you'll be able to find out once it unfolds & you're able to see what response is. Id like to see more

[chikkypou]

Very interesting concept. Except to avoid confusion make yard lines.

[paintballyod3rm]

looks complicated and takes a lot of the fun outa it

[Haywood477]

Seems really gay, takes alot of the fun out.

[BigBuff9]

I think this fromat will just set paintball back if anyhting

[hockeyboy08]

everything is kool here..i jus dont like the line of emlimination..that seems really gay

[percast]

dont liky

[hikaru62541]

I don't know it looks like fun but paintball is just fine. Oh well. Don't knock it 'till you try it. I wanna try that format because it looks like fun.

[ThePBMinistry]

Hey if it makes it into the X-Games it is a posative move forward for paintball. If you dont like the format, dont play it.

[eventheinnocent]

o and someting else i thought of,,

when a team grabs the flag have sound effects from unreal tournament where they say "blue team has the flag" so both teams know where the game is

[ManiacA4]

Just wanted to let you know that current paintball is fine and we dont need awful formats like this clogging things up. Thanks.