when i saw this shit kind of person,i can't help to think about the humain being ourselves.Yeah,you have your resaon to be so blamed on your motherland,then,let me ask you something,what have you do to your mother land.More frankly,who the fuck you are?You motherfucker always say that's a rule machine,it is different from my motherland in my mind.Wow,can you be some realistic.On represnt,can you find a better way when you see so many motherfuckers like you in our conutry.
hope all you westerners are living in a really democratic world. Politics is just kinds of power and benefit's gather and separate,there is no best way,just the most suitable one.China is different from USA or some other western conutries,we are not same,remember that.
The government is filming his lifestyle for free. Truly socialist and communist. Not bad things, trust. If you haven't lived in China, if you don't know the language firstly, then you dont have much to say that stands for much. Real talk.
@givemefivecc I agree with you. But it's two extremes. Western media want to shadow the government efforts and progress, and Domestic politicians want to shadowed some very bad things they did sometimes. The best way is two mix the info provided by the two sides to figure out a more real explanation. To sum up, politics is a very dirty affair all over the world. Most politicians won't considering humanity when facing their enemies.
@yerk3 Secondly, if you are trying to say Xinjiang is not a part of China. I suggest you to go to library of Oxford Univ. There's plenty historical materials that can show you who take that area first. Please notice that no political powers have affect these materials. And I have to say, the terrorist Rebiya are lying on TV. Ok, if you don't want a scientific proof about the jurisdiction over Xinjiang, I have nothing to say to a unreasonable racist.
@yerk3 Yeah, you can find the dialect have no relation to any officially known Chinese languages in China, even in my hometown. Besides, what I want to highlight here is the behaviors of the terrorists in Urumqi. I had no racial viewpoints. So please don't try to shift the focus. Violent could never be the strategy of reaching any political goal, no matter it's in China or not.
yup, China needs to take a leaf from Meiji Japan's textbook. Communism is dying, there's no place for it any more. I hope China's mid-ranking cadres (the future leadership) can realise what China needs is Meiji Japan's Militarism: turn the whole country into a war machine, thats the only way we can stand up to American Imperialism. Communism isn't working anymore and neither will democracy. To China, democracy is nothing short of a load of bullshit. Militarism and Fascism is the only way.
i am so glad to see that many people who commented here are rational. Before the chinese find a more suitable political system, the stabity of society should be the most concerned. The political reform is underway all the time in China but the western medias never want to talk about the efforts that the chinese goverment did, Anyway, something like culture revolution or what happend in Square Tiananmen 89 are not possible happen again.
@givemefivecc Yes hopefully '89 won't happen again, but unfortunately citizens who want free expression, and less corruption, are still detained without trial, beaten and/or murdered by the Chinese authorities.. ..very sad, and not a true aspect of reform.
to be honest, ai weiwei has gone openly belligerent. many things he say really are about encouraging unrest and overthrowing government with not really any real substantial arguments. if he's surprised that there is some police presence around him he's an idiot.
future of China...i have never been to china i cannot say that is a good regime or not , but if the people of china are not pleased, they may change that.
once people understand how they are being mistreated and do not see any change, it only a matter of time before they create that change themselves. how history does not treat, how many revolts has it seen?
Well, he got the prize from Norway....but NORWAY is equal torturors as he claims....just look at the youtube - politivoldinorge (police violence in Norway)
@onlinelondon so HOW and why are you trying to discredit him? if any country gave him an award you could find police brutality videos. Can you please give me a list of one country from each continent where you would'nt? I'd like to know...
AND if you are by any way implying a comparison between China and Norway, I sure hope you stay in school if it's not too late.
LOL despicable Brits and hypocrisy supporting someone who literally says "China has no creativity or higher though going on" and complaining about twitter and google being blocked. I just have to LMAO at Cameron wanting to block twitter. Brit=the eternal hypocrites
China needs democracy, but never should be given by the westerners. To me, the power of the Anglo-Saxon which have controlled the world for two centenaries is just the same enemy as CCP to Chinese people.
Whether China become international or not does not need judged by the westerners, the present international rules were built on behalf of westerners' interest. It is not just China needs the west market, but also the westerners are depend on made in China. What the western capital has done in China is exploitation, sharing with the dictatorship of CCP. Remember, Britain launched war on China in 1840 by selling opium, will you ever trust a drug dealer？
@uofschs724 Actually, it does. If a country wants to become a hermit state it can just do whatever it feels like, like North Korea. If a country wants to become international, it has to have the acceptance of the international community. The human rights charter was not created with the intended benefit of the West or any other power elite, it was created for all humans. If you think the CCP is a dictatorship, why are you defending their actions?
tg I live on the positive side of chinese culture -Taiwan. The chinese tourists are often shocked ifnot surprised at how taiwanese can live so freely
@pervertt What this shows is that the Chinese government is not completely stupid. If they want to become engaged in international commerce and politics, they can't keep acting like a closed, isolationist country who can just jail people for whatever reason they like and not have anyone notice. This isn't the 50s anymore, the world is watching.
@yerk3 On the contrary, there are Chinese political leaders who are quite smart. It's just that the model of government they've inherited is rather stupid. But nobody in government wants to publicly admit it. As soon as someone points out that the emperor is wearing no clothes, they beat him up or throw him in jail. In Ai Weiwei's case, they did both.
Ai Weiwei is a liar and did a lot of illegal things in China, he should be arrested and put into prison, you people who think he is a hero, you are totally wrong!
@onlygun All of the charges that have been leveled against him smack of grasping at straws. Find some neglected corner of China's byzantine legal code to trip him up on, then use that to brand him a "criminal" and paint him as this dangerous, out of control hooligan. Yeah, that's also a standard tactic of totalitarian regimes, especially when they're desperate.
@yerk3 thank you for your comnnet. Now in China you can make any critique to any people, it's kinda improvement of the "democracy" , however that doesn't mean you can lie to the people, and be the "opponent" of the government. Besides why Ai Weiwei still lives in China where the "motherland" he actually doesn't love, and why the government doesn't arrest other so-called"democracy-fighters"?
@onlygun How as Ai Weiwei "lied" to the people? The government HAS arrested other people who are trying to bring democracy to China. They number in the thousands. Ai Weiwei is by no means the first, nor will he probably be the last, person the Chinese government has thrown in a dungeon for speaking the truth to power.
@yerk3 The westerners always happy to blame everything on the Chinese "imperial dictation" and the lack of "demopcracy", but how much do you know about the true China, give China some time, we Chinese will be strong in the near future and make the world more beatiful and peaceful, be patient , man. Please don't fear about Chinese development and China will not behave like America at all.
@onlygun Thats exactly what some westerners fear. The Chinese working hard, paying for what they ask instead of stealing it. Trying to make business with everyone around the world offering everybody fair prices.
@wwwtotalitaerde These irrelevant distractions are transparently cynical. This has nothing to do with the Chinese working hard, or Western economic powers being afraid of China. This is a video about human rights abuses.
@yerk3 Its cynical to manipulate and misuse chinese artists to run them into trouble,just to be able to blame China.And on the other hand supporting the German Nazi state torturing and murdering a large number of its subjects,for not taking part in its atrocities,including infiltration and subversion of many countries around the world.I can only accept people being pro human rights,if they support every human rights activist in whatever country.Selective support exposes couvert operations.
@wwwtotalitaerde Who is "manipulating and using" Ai Weiwei? If you mean concerned parties all over the world, who have no clear allegience to any one existing political entity, then you are sadly mistaken.
@wwwtotalitaerde The entire idea that any attempt to hold the Chinese government accountable for anything must be part of some nefarious scheme by double agents working for the evil Western powers is nothing more than a paranoid conspiracy theory.
@wwwtotalitaerde It's like McCarthyites in America in the 50s claiming that anyone who criticized the U.S. government or unfettered capitalism must be a Russian double agent. This kind of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking serves no one. It deflects accountability from those at fault, smears anyone who stands up for any kind of principle, and at the same time ultimately destroys the accuser's accountability by making them appear insane and delusional.
@yerk3 If you are so decisively pro human rights,what are you going to do about the German BND systematically using rape,torture and assassination to silence any opposition?And educating secret services in many other countries how to do this?
Try to grab a German policeman like is shown at 4:12.You will be beaten up and be sentenced using openly false statements.
Search YT for:"Festnahme von Agent Provocateur der Polizei durch S21-Gegner".Its investigated for manslaughter,the bald guy is a cop
@wwwtotalitaerde Once again, this has absolutely nothing to do with Germany. If this video were about something that had any relation to Germany, then you would have an issue. If you want to speak out about Germany in a comments section, do it under a video about Germany, about something happening in Germany, or involving a German, any German, fuck, German food even. Go to a video about David fucking Hasselhoff and talk about your brother and the BND, but not here.
@wwwtotalitaerde Nobody here is supporting the German government. Your accusations and implications in this regard are completely unfounded. Once again: whatever is going on in Germany, for better or worse, is irrelevant here. Your repeated attempts to draw connections between anything in this video and anything happening in Germany fail completely. There is simply no connection.
@yerk3 How can human rights abuses by Germany, having murdered 6 m Jews plus millions of Russians, Polish and others and still using rape, torture and murder, be irrelevant? Ai Weiwei is living. Most German dissidents have been murdered or are constantly being tortured to prevent them from speaking out.
@wwwtotalitaerde Because they have nothing to do with this situation. We are talking about the Chinese government, not the German government. Ai Weiwei is Chinese, not German. The Zichuan earthquake killed an inordinate number of Chinese schoolchildren, not German ones, due to shoddy construction by Chinese firms, not German ones, who colluded with the Chinese government, not the German one. Can you point out one way in which Germany is even tangentially connected to this case?
@yerk3 So whatever atrocities Germany committs, this is not to be discussed, not even abroad. That is exactly what I have experienced. Because Germany has an enormous amount of snitchers all over the world, suppressing reports about Germany torturing and murdering. The US could not suppress reports about Guantanamo, Israel could not suppress reports about Gaza. Germany openly torturing and murdering, even torturing and murdering abroad can.
@wwwtotalitaerde They are not to be discussed HERE. Again, go to any video about Germany and commence your rant there. You are simply wasting your time here. This video has absolutely nothing to do with anything you're talking about, it is irrelevant. This video is not about Germany, it has nothing to do with Germany, nobody in this comment section has said anything about Germany except for you. Again, go to a video where your posts will actually be relevant.
@danger0usknowledge No, my words are to be taken at face value. And if you happen to be in Germany, I can show you the reality, which is quite contrary to the official propaganda. My brother had been tortured and was assassinated in 2009. My parents are still being tortured, brainwashed and they are not allowed to leave Germany. See my film Gifte english. Thats what the German BND is now doing with my father.
Some of the murders by the German BND known to the public:
Uwe Barschel (politician), Jürgen Möllemann (politician), Heiner Gehring (author), Martina Pflock (political activist), Tron (internet activist), Karl Koch (political/internet activist), Bernd Seiffert (human rights activist), Kirsten Heisig (author/judge), Fritz Bauer (persecutor of the Frankfurt Auschwitz processes), Markus Bott (human rights activist).
Google the names and check out my channel and homepage.
@yerk3 Whats actually the reason for you supporting German human rights abuses? Ive never seen this in any other country when someone complained about misconduct of his state. But whenever you mention the crimes of the German state you get assaulted. Even abroad. And this despite the history of Germany systematically using torture and murder.
@wwwtotalitaerde Since I hear very little news from Germany, it's not something I think about a lot. However, if I did find credible evidence that the German government was perpetrating gross human rights abuses, I would have cause for concern. Am I "assaulting" you? Maybe if this was a video that had anything to do with Germany, your comments here wouldn't be so asinine.
@yerk3 My brother Markus Bott and other human rights activists in Germany were murdered, not put into prison for tax evasion. Of course Germany also is trying to frame opponents, or let them disappear in mental institutions. In most of these cases the German state is visibly lying,without the slightest clue of misconduct seen at the victim.
Ai Weiwei on the other hand fell into the tax trap, and I am pretty sure that some of his German "friends" are very lucky,as this allows them to blame China
@wwwtotalitaerde Once again, this has nothing to do with your brother, the German government or anything happening in any part of Europe. You may as well be talking about something happening on another planet. You have repeatedly brought up Germany and your brother, as if they had anything to do with this, while failing to show any connection. If what you say is true, then what the German government is doing is bad and should be criticized, but this is simply not the place to do it.
@typoconnection You only have to click on the statistics button of this video to see that this video CAN be seen in China. Without any need to go via US computers as then it would be counted as "seen in the US".
Most Americans can't see that communist style oppression is taking hold of their own country. They let the TSA grope their genitals. They let their government spy on them and rob their pensions from them. No fly lists for Ron Paul supporters, etc, etc. Why should TED congratulate the China Communist Party for lifting people from poverty when Mao Tse-tung was the biggest mass murderer in human history. All humans deserve freedom from oppression.
@kokleongyip, "50 cent party"? if they are able to access youtube, youtube won't be blocked in mainland china and your account could be hacked. your political stance is part of your freedom, but please bear in mind that there are people there support china's communists and their believes are not bought by that 50 cent. stop your ignorance?
And? So a troublemaker got what was coming to him? So what? The Chinese government is crazy, everyone knows better than to make a scene. There is a difference between being bold, and being stupid. And It's not like the Chinese government is going to see any of these comments and websites, so there is no point in posting "free ai weiwe." Do you people honestly think this stuff is going to help at all?
@epicturnip And so everyone should be a coward? If a government is doing something wrong, people should make a fuss about it, no matter the consequences. It's called having a spine. If everyone followed quislings like you, we'd still all be living in the dark ages.
@yerk3 I'm not saying "everyone should be a coward." I'm saying he knew what he was getting himself into, so he clearly wanted it to happen. It's not like he suddenly forgot the chinese government is crazy. He has just poking and prodding the lion until it got him. So he, he is a troublemaker that just wants attention. I'm all for standing up for what's right, but taking his route is not how it's done. (cont)
@epicturnip Actually, you are telling everyone to be a coward, and you prove it with each new post. What you're saying here has been said every time there has been a corrupt or brutal regime and anyone has ever tried to go up against it. The one thing the people who have said this have had in common is that they have been on the wrong side of history, and so are you. Your response to injustice is to simply bend over and say "more please!"
@epicturnip Notice that "troublemaker" is always the word used by corrupt regimes to describe anyone who stands up to their shit? I'd rather be a "troublemaker" than a quisling any day of the week. We have "troublemakers" to thank for all of the freedoms we have. Without them, we'd each and every one of us still be living under the coarsest forms of feudalism. All hail the troublemakers! Builders of civilization and vanguards against tyranny!
@yerk3 Mess with the bull and you get the horns. What do people expect when dealing with the messed up chinese government? Everyone knows they are ridiculous with their censorship and they will do anything to silence what they don't like. It's not like it was some huge surprise that they arrested him. If he wants freedom so much, he can do what everyone else does and move to America or somewhere where you don't get arrested for making controversial art. (continued)
@epicturnip What should people expect when dealing with any messed up government. A fight, of course! Nobody is saying that this is something where we're going to see immediate change, but it's better than doing nothing. Going against corrupt and brutal regimes is dangerous, but it is something that must be done. Few are that brave, many can only hope to be, but those who piss on their bravery and take the side of might are destined to bury themselves and hide their faces in shame forever.
@yerk3 Also, the internet is heavily filtered in China. What is the use in posting "free ai weiwe" when they aren't even going to see it? It's not like they are going to be hanging out on youtube and other sites and come across a boatload of comments and blogs about how they should "free him," and then what? They change their mind? No. They block it off from everyone and don't think twice about it. I don't support their censorship, but I think everyones reaction is ridiculous.
@epicturnip So everyone should just give up? I'd hate to think of a world where everyone had your spineless, defeatist attitude. I suppose that since none of us have the ability to single-handedly change this situation, no one should bother, right?
@yerk3 lol I'm not spineless. I live in America where the government may not be perfect, but it's certainly better than the insane chinese government. If someone continues to choose to live in China, they shouldn't complain about how it's run. Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. That's what billions of people have done that hate how their country is done. Yes, you shouldn't bother trying to change a machine of crazy powerhungry leaders. (cont)
@yerk3 There is a difference in standing up and just being controversial for the sake of controversy. Like I said, I'm all for standing up for what's right. But if I'm going to take the risk of getting ARRESTED for my actions, I sure as heck wouldn't want people "demanding" the government to release me. My whole point is, it's not like the chinese government is ever going to read youtube comments or blogs about Ai Weiwei, so all the posts and printouts are futile. (cont)
@epicturnip Ai Weiwei is not "being controversial for the sake of controversy." He is an artist, and sometimes art is controversial. Those who are controversial for the sake of controversy are harmless and never face persecution. Corrupt regimes only expend their time and energy on silencing someone if their ideas pose a legitimate threat to their power.
@yerk3 Every post, every blog, every video and website defending Ai Weiwei just gets censored by the chinese government. It's like every comment is vanished to nothing as far as the crazy leaders are concerned. To you guys really think they care? Do you honestly thing a bunch of youtube comments are really going to do ANYTHING AT ALL? I know you guys are just showing support and everything, but really, it's useless. I doubt even Ai Weiwei sees these! (cont)
@epicturnip What do think people should do then? How do you think people should protest the Chinese government? What do you think should be done about this? If the answer is "nothing," which I suspect, then you are a spineless coward and on the wrong side of history.
@yerk3 I don't think the answer is "nothing." Protests are useless. Do you honestly thing a bunch of people whining about how they can't paint a controversial picture is going to change the mind of the CRAZY POWER HUNGRY OVERLORDS of China??? Protests RARELY ever work even in AMERICA. What the crap do you expect CHINA to do when it barely works in a FREE country??? (cont)
@yerk3 What happens when a kid throws a fit when he doesn't get his way? His parents punish him! What happens when a Chinese citizen throws a fit because he doesn't get his way? He gets his butt thrown in jail.
@epicturnip I can't believe you're comparing someone being oppressed for standing up for the truth as they see it, to a kid being grounded. Are you really that deluded? Why don't you do what cowards do best and shut up.
@yerk3 The only people that are even going to see the supportive comments and sites are people that already live in a country where they have the freedom to do so. It's like sending a letter to someone only to have someone intercept it and burn it up. It's useless.
@epicturnip Here's an idea: shut up. Just shut up. You obviously don't think saying anything is any use, so do what those regimes you seem to consider above reproach always tell everyone to do and shut your worthless bitch mouth. If you're not going to say anything of value, don't say anything. If you think it's such a bad idea to raise a fuss about anything, follow your own advice and shut up.
@yerk3 "If you're not going to say anything of value, don't say anything." LOL like "free ai weiwei" makes any difference? XD I live in America, ever heard of the first amendment? Free speech? Something that CHINA does NOT have? I can say any "worthless" thing I want. People in China cannot. You know why? Because they get thrown in jail. "Shut up???" Way to be just like the CHINESE GOVERNMENT and tell me what NOT TO SAY. LOL. Uh oh, I hope I don't get arrested for expressing my opinion. XD
@epicturnip Why aren't you shutting up? If speaking out is as useless as you claim, then why are you speaking out here? If questioning anyone or anything is such an excercise in futility, then save your time and energy and silence yourself.
@yerk3 Because I'm not speaking out to an insane Chinese government, that's why. I'm not going to get arrested. lol my "time and energy?" I don't know how you use the internet, but for normal people, typing on a computer does not take much time or energy at all. XD What do you to, browse the internet on a treadmill or something? lol that's beside the point. I can do what I want. I'm not in China. (cont)
@epicturnip I'm not putting any words in your mouth, I'm summing up the position you have clearly stated. If that is not your position, then what is it? If Ai Weiwei's actions are so useless and pointless, then what would you rather he have done? You have expounded on what you consider to be the "wrong" way to do things, but have steadfastly refused to provide any alternatives. If your answer is NOT to bury your head in the sand and do nothing, then what IS it? Cough it up!
@yerk3 Obviously getting yourself thrown in jail is the result of doing things the wrong way. It's pretty simple. BTW I mostly mean the people's actions on the internet demanding his release is useless, but I agree that his actions were useless too. :) Did anyone really expect him to make any difference in the Chinese government by doing the useless crap he did? Did HE really expect to change anything? (cont)
@epicturnip Just answer the question. What SHOULD he have done. You've gone on and on ad nauseum about what you feel entitled to say he SHOULDN'T have done, but you are strangely silent on what, in your mind, the correct course of action should have been. If your reply to this is just more cowardly spittle directed at people you don't even deserve to lick the boots of, while still not addressing this question, then this conversation is over. Speak now, or forever hold your peace.
@yerk3 Last time I checked China is still the same and people still have the same lack of rights they had before. The only difference HE made was getting HIMSELF ARRESTED. I'm NOT saying be a coward, but DO know where the INSANE CHINESE LINE is and KNOW that AS SOON AS YOU CROSS the freedom line, Chinese officials will find you and do whatever the crap they want to. I see all these people protesting his capture, but where are all the Chinese protesters? Being smart and keeping their mouth shut.
@epicturnip You still haven't answered the question. Why are you so reticent, while at the same time being all too outspoken when it comes to bashing someone for having the guts to stand up to a corrupt regime? Are you going to answer or are you just going to evade by trashing people who are 100 times braver than you'll ever be?
@yerk3 What he "should have done" is not my problem, seeing as how I'm not whining about how my government runs things. lol "braver than me?" There is a huge difference between bravery and stupidity. If that government is going to arrest someone that makes controversial art and speaks his mind, then there is no changing it. I don't know at the moment what any one person could do to change the mind of hundreds of insane power-hungry overlords, but I do know that it's not by running his mouth.
@epicturnip Actually, it is. If you want to trash someone's methods, it behooves you to propose an alternative. Otherwise, you are just a worm throwing shit at people from a distance. What would you have said to Gandhi, Thorreau, Martin Luther King? By your logic, they were all stupid and everyone who supported them were just wasting their time. After all, the British Empire under no circumstances gave a shit about some Indian lawyer shaving his head and starving himself, so why bother?
@yerk3 "you are just a worm throwing shit at people from a distance" yep just like Weiwei. Oh please, I can't believe youre comparing some schmuck to Gandi & Martin Luther King XD. There u go again putting words in my mouth. I can trash whomever I want, I'm not the one sitting in a cell for stirring up a hornets nest. Let's say they release him, then what? It's not going to make a difference. They'll probably end up keeping him anyway. Or maybe they'll brainwash him. I say pass the popcorn ;)
@epicturnip Yeah, so what is the main difference between Ai Weiwei and those other guys? By your logic, since they decided to tangle with powerful, evil forces, and ultimately died for it, they must just be idiots. After all, carrying out a desperate struggle against a power that will almost certainly kill you, (or "stirring up a hornets nest" as you put it) in your book, crosses the line between bravery and stupidity. What words have I put in your mouth?
@yerk3 The main difference? LOL Are you serious? Please tell me you are joking. The main difference: They actually made a difference. China (government) is still the insane, censoring, freedom squashing tyrant it was before. The only difference Ai Weiwei made was a change in his location.
@epicturnip The difference they made, did it all come at once? Was it instantaneous? Did the British immediately leave India the first time Gandhi was imprisoned? Did Apartheid end months after Mandela was imprisoned? Did slavery end the day they locked up Thoreau? Not a fucking chance. These were struggles that took decades. But because the Chinese government doesn't immediately cease their bullshit the moment they lock up Ai Wei Wei, he's a failure?
@yerk3 lol do you know how long people have been getting arrested in China for doing the all same things as Ai Weiwei? It's not like he is the first person, and it's not like people like him have just started to rebel. This has been going on for years and years and years and years. If it was going to make any difference, it would have happened by now. But maybe you're right. Maybe everyone in the Chinese government will all log into their youtube accounts and scroll through all these comments XD
@epicturnip Do you know how long people were being jailed and shot in India for resisting the British Empire? About 400 years. When they jailed Mandela, the various colonial regimes in Africa had been jailing dissidents, executing people, beating them to death, cutting their heads off and sticking them on stockade walls, also for 400 years.
@yerk3 LOL do you really think someone getting put in jail is as bad as all that? You guys talk about this situation like it's some monumental, nation changing event or something. How long do you think it will take Chia to change? 500 yrs? 100 yrs? How many prisoners do you think it will take for China to change? Hmm? Two million? Three million? How many pages of Youtube comments do you think will get him released?
@epicturnip One minute, you're talking about how the Chinese government is so psychotic and homicidal that questioning them is sheer stupidity, the next, you're trying to downplay their human rights abuses? What is your major malfunction? Nobody is claiming that this will be a "nation changing event," but raising a fuss about it is something that anyone who cares must do. Of course, for every struggle, there have always been cowards like you throwing shit from the sidelines.
@yerk3 "Nobody is claiming that this will be a nation changing event" With the way you keep comparing him to those people, rage out over my free speech like a steroid binger with pms, I thought otherwise. Back to my main point, with all these comments, blogs, websites, what do you guys expect to do? Show support? He's not going to see them. Convince the chinese government? They're not going to see them either. Encourage the freedomless people in China? They're not going to see them either.(cont)
@epicturnip well there are always such things as hackers...
in addition, if you know Chinese, you can try to post in their websites... no doubt it will be taken down within 3 hours, but for the most part... that is how Chinese people know about these things. And many (though I suspect still a minority) do know and look out for things like these. Or you can twitter too... I don't think that gets blocked.
@epicturnip By the time Martin Luther King was born, the South had been summarily executing any black man who asserted his humanity since before the fucking nation was founded. Compare that to the 70 or so years that the CCP has been oppressing people. Nobody here is under any illusion that protesting a brutal regime is something to be completed by lunchtime, the only one who seems to be going by the condensed version of history is you.
@yerk3 LOL oh please XD This is NOTHING compared to that! XD Haha wow. They get killed, this schmuck gets thrown in a cell. Ohhh no stop the blood bath...... Oh the humanity... Some guy has to be bored in a room! *GASP!* It's so heartbreaking!
@epicturnip You yourself were celebrating the possibility that he would be "brainwashed," and citing China's history of human rights abuses as evidence of the futility of whatever he is doing. And no, this is not just about one man being arrested, China HAS been killing and torturing people, and they're probably torturing him, a fact which will no doubt propel you into a frenzied orgasm of schadenfreude.
I hope things will get better when more Chinese have higher standard of livingand education. Human rights, freedom of speech and democracy,these are the things that you need to learn and understand by yourself and it will happen in China. Who are we to tell what is best for them, i say let the Chinese choose what is best for them and their nation.
Sounds like a real troublemaker this Weiwei guy. Just like the guy who got squashed in Tiananmen square, they just beg for it, and when it comes it's a big Ba-WA! If you pick your nose enough, blood comes out and this is exactly what happened. If you live in communist china, either live by the rules or get out. Chinese prison is the logical endpoint of this fools actions. Maybe they will let him out and he'll start it up again ad they kill him. What an idiot.
Has anybody tried filing a complaint with the police in Shanghai or Beijing? It can't be legal to ruin his studio whoever did that should go to jail. I'd definitely sue the city!
@superyiyiyi Let me ask you just one question:how can you log on YouTube in China?No censorship is felt in China?I have one friend put into two year labor campus for just one tweet!!!This damn shit government is so afraid of its own people!They dont even allowed people to type the word Freedom within WoW!Life improvement?Can't you see millions of people still are struggling to just make a living while those officials enjoyed a luxury life within and outside China?
China, communist or no, is clearly a prosperous nation and that's fine. Censorship aside, it seems very similar to the US in terms of government corruption and bias which is inevitable in any system. However, I feel that as long as true censorship and political imprisonment exist, it will harm the nation and the people in the long term. I doubt the government or ordinary life would change very much if censorship stopped tomorrow. Yet that fear of one's own people does nothing but harm.
@snowwolfsabertooth lol it's a conspiracy. There's no way the Chinese freaking government would allow it. They filter EVERYTHING on the internet there, and there is no way they would allow him to talk about the situation.
If the China is playing the "Let's keep it Secret" game and if this game keeps the chinese economy more vibrant than rest of the world, then I believe, China have all the reason to protect his game.
I just feel like this is a huge joke that Chinese people knows exactly what the outside world is like and we are blaming ourselves, so that we can catch up and be better, But the western world REALLY doesn't know anything about China and most people still think Chinese people can't get information form the outside world. Its funny that in China people can watch those foreign shows that critizise China. and we are laughing at how uneducated the people who made these shows are.
Whenever you see those news or documentary shows that speard the negative image about China. Please think twice, why do you think they do that? China's human right situation has already been improved and normal people can't feel cencership at all(the only thing is you can't have public protest, they are cencerning of public riot. and you do can criticize government which a lot people do) I feel like western people should listen to our voice. DON'T JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU LIKE TO BELIEVE!!
@SuperYiyiyi u do know that it is quite hypocritical to claim that normal people in china do not feel censorship at all over here while youtube is practically censored in China... The harassment and arrest of Ai weiwei without trial is illegal in my country where the right of one to defend his crime is embedded in our constitution. It is in your country's constitution too, just that the authority chose not to give a damn, that's y it is illegal and is a form abuse in human right
people may have more freedom to critisize the government. But they will be suffering much worse proverty or even a war. In fact, I have lived in China for 20 years, which I can tell you the life here is different from what you guys see on your TV everyday. China tried so hard to let the world to see the ture China, but saddly some people just doesn't like this and try every way to blame China for no reason. Let's be fair, I also lived in the US for 5 years, so please don't think I'm "brainwashed
@SuperYiyiyi We all know how rich China from the hundred billion dollars events like Olympics and Expo. The progress of china in economics and bringing people out of poverty are admirable, but it doesn't mean China is not suffering from human right abuse. Show me a case where China respect human right and freedom of speech, I had enough of wonderful fireworks and ever rising skyscrapers. These are irrelevant to this clip.
as a Chinese, I'm so sad to see all these comments that are made by people who obviously doesn't know the ture China. Do people really think China can be better by adopting demoracy system? We are talking about different history and civilization patern. China couldn't have the success in economy today if China is a democratic society, even worse, the whole country will fall apart due to the internal and foreign pressure.
@SuperYiyiyi Why Chinese government is so afraid of its people embrace global value, such as freedom of speech? I believe they must be hiding something, something that is so sensitive that the Communist might be overthrown like Libya or Egypt. Did you know how many people are sacrificed to make our economy possible? We chased after GDP, however our capital per person is very relatively low. China is rich, because we have very cheap labor. You might not realize it if you are a rich people.
without no one to tell you how to free yourself cause guess what everyones mouths shut!a basic freedom ,a freedom of life itself hes an artist ,feels like a publicity stunt,found a good way to make money and make an important point ,do you think we would have found bob dylan if he was chinese you think he could have smoked a joint(illegal words in chinese
)peacefully to write those beautiful lyrics.im not saying wei wei's like dylan but he is still aperson who needs his spacelike all of us
democracy is not u.s ,its always been there ,even before north america was clear to us.the notion of freedom is to intertwined with the individual .you were never to be born with chains,but in society we are tied through social ties, but so loose,that we have "insanity" to let us free,and to do what we want to do,and face the mild consequences .but just imagine a future where,both our arms and feet are tied down ,unable to move,unable to sing,unable to draw,cant let go..look up
@pervertt - I would give this comment two thumbs up if I could! 97.8% of the people commenting on youtube will probably think we're both communists now, but so be it.
LOL, the mighty Chinese government is afraid of its own people. The elephant afraid of the mouse. Hilariously shamefully funny. The Chinese government is not powerful but small and afraid.
as an Uyghur person, i show my deep respect to Ai wei wei! democracy, freedom of speech,human rights..these are the same things which Uyghurs, Tibetens have been strugling. the Comunist party is not only the enemy of Uyghurs and Tibetens, but also the enemy of chinese people. we should come together, we should unite to say goodbye to those CCP dictators who is enslaving us, who is depriving us of our basic freedom, our dignity.
when i saw this shit kind of person,i can't help to think about the humain being ourselves.Yeah,you have your resaon to be so blamed on your motherland,then,let me ask you something,what have you do to your mother land.More frankly,who the fuck you are?You motherfucker always say that's a rule machine,it is different from my motherland in my mind.Wow,can you be some realistic.On represnt,can you find a better way when you see so many motherfuckers like you in our conutry.
23Jeffery45 1 month ago
hope all you westerners are living in a really democratic world. Politics is just kinds of power and benefit's gather and separate,there is no best way,just the most suitable one.China is different from USA or some other western conutries,we are not same,remember that.
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theflorgeormix 1 month ago
The government is filming his lifestyle for free. Truly socialist and communist. Not bad things, trust. If you haven't lived in China, if you don't know the language firstly, then you dont have much to say that stands for much. Real talk.
illnacord 2 months ago
@givemefivecc I agree with you. But it's two extremes. Western media want to shadow the government efforts and progress, and Domestic politicians want to shadowed some very bad things they did sometimes. The best way is two mix the info provided by the two sides to figure out a more real explanation. To sum up, politics is a very dirty affair all over the world. Most politicians won't considering humanity when facing their enemies.
invinciblejia11 2 months ago
@yerk3 Finally, if the people there don't want to live in that society, just move out to other countries.
invinciblejia11 2 months ago
@yerk3 Secondly, if you are trying to say Xinjiang is not a part of China. I suggest you to go to library of Oxford Univ. There's plenty historical materials that can show you who take that area first. Please notice that no political powers have affect these materials. And I have to say, the terrorist Rebiya are lying on TV. Ok, if you don't want a scientific proof about the jurisdiction over Xinjiang, I have nothing to say to a unreasonable racist.
invinciblejia11 2 months ago
@yerk3 Yeah, you can find the dialect have no relation to any officially known Chinese languages in China, even in my hometown. Besides, what I want to highlight here is the behaviors of the terrorists in Urumqi. I had no racial viewpoints. So please don't try to shift the focus. Violent could never be the strategy of reaching any political goal, no matter it's in China or not.
invinciblejia11 2 months ago
Ai Weiwei is just another brainwashed Western Agent.
iamnobodyism 2 months ago
yup, China needs to take a leaf from Meiji Japan's textbook. Communism is dying, there's no place for it any more. I hope China's mid-ranking cadres (the future leadership) can realise what China needs is Meiji Japan's Militarism: turn the whole country into a war machine, thats the only way we can stand up to American Imperialism. Communism isn't working anymore and neither will democracy. To China, democracy is nothing short of a load of bullshit. Militarism and Fascism is the only way.
iamnobodyism 2 months ago
Jack.
mrmarkl328 3 months ago
i am so glad to see that many people who commented here are rational. Before the chinese find a more suitable political system, the stabity of society should be the most concerned. The political reform is underway all the time in China but the western medias never want to talk about the efforts that the chinese goverment did, Anyway, something like culture revolution or what happend in Square Tiananmen 89 are not possible happen again.
givemefivecc 3 months ago 4
@givemefivecc Yes hopefully '89 won't happen again, but unfortunately citizens who want free expression, and less corruption, are still detained without trial, beaten and/or murdered by the Chinese authorities.. ..very sad, and not a true aspect of reform.
jonnibegood1 1 month ago
to be honest, ai weiwei has gone openly belligerent. many things he say really are about encouraging unrest and overthrowing government with not really any real substantial arguments. if he's surprised that there is some police presence around him he's an idiot.
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juliacotic 4 months ago
future of China...i have never been to china i cannot say that is a good regime or not , but if the people of china are not pleased, they may change that.
andreeaweed 4 months ago
once people understand how they are being mistreated and do not see any change, it only a matter of time before they create that change themselves. how history does not treat, how many revolts has it seen?
tomwjc 3 months ago
Well, he got the prize from Norway....but NORWAY is equal torturors as he claims....just look at the youtube - politivoldinorge (police violence in Norway)
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onlinelondon 4 months ago
@onlinelondon so HOW and why are you trying to discredit him? if any country gave him an award you could find police brutality videos. Can you please give me a list of one country from each continent where you would'nt? I'd like to know...
AND if you are by any way implying a comparison between China and Norway, I sure hope you stay in school if it's not too late.
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JuiceStainMc 4 months ago
LOL despicable Brits and hypocrisy supporting someone who literally says "China has no creativity or higher though going on" and complaining about twitter and google being blocked. I just have to LMAO at Cameron wanting to block twitter. Brit=the eternal hypocrites
CharlieALabtech 6 months ago
Someone needs to show this guy the TOR network...
Fishheadofdoom 7 months ago
China needs democracy, but never should be given by the westerners. To me, the power of the Anglo-Saxon which have controlled the world for two centenaries is just the same enemy as CCP to Chinese people.
uofschs724 7 months ago
@uofschs724 If China wants to become international and do business with the world, it can't keep acting like a hermit state.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3
Whether China become international or not does not need judged by the westerners, the present international rules were built on behalf of westerners' interest. It is not just China needs the west market, but also the westerners are depend on made in China. What the western capital has done in China is exploitation, sharing with the dictatorship of CCP. Remember, Britain launched war on China in 1840 by selling opium, will you ever trust a drug dealer？
uofschs724 7 months ago
@uofschs724 Actually, it does. If a country wants to become a hermit state it can just do whatever it feels like, like North Korea. If a country wants to become international, it has to have the acceptance of the international community. The human rights charter was not created with the intended benefit of the West or any other power elite, it was created for all humans. If you think the CCP is a dictatorship, why are you defending their actions?
yerk3 7 months ago
ai weiwei, dont collaborate with the clerical fascists from the west ;))..they want to destroy china like the japanese nazis in ww2 ;))
05giacomo 7 months ago
@05giacomo Western imperialism has nothing to do with this.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3 i can guarantee you it HAS ;))..its propaganda warfare
05giacomo 7 months ago
@05giacomo Dismissing something out of hand as "propaganda" without any evidence, just on principle, is a weaksauce tactic.
yerk3 7 months ago
tg I live on the positive side of chinese culture -Taiwan. The chinese tourists are often shocked ifnot surprised at how taiwanese can live so freely
expatleanie 8 months ago
@expatleanie eh?! Taiwan has really messed up politics, though admittedly better than China's
snowwolfsabertooth 8 months ago
Ai Weiwei Released: State Media Say Chinese Artist Freed After Confession (this is the title of the article on HuffingtonPost (dot) com
I can't link to it here.
metta8888 8 months ago
They've let him go. Just too many traitors in China, running out of jails.
pervertt 8 months ago
@pervertt What this shows is that the Chinese government is not completely stupid. If they want to become engaged in international commerce and politics, they can't keep acting like a closed, isolationist country who can just jail people for whatever reason they like and not have anyone notice. This isn't the 50s anymore, the world is watching.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 On the contrary, there are Chinese political leaders who are quite smart. It's just that the model of government they've inherited is rather stupid. But nobody in government wants to publicly admit it. As soon as someone points out that the emperor is wearing no clothes, they beat him up or throw him in jail. In Ai Weiwei's case, they did both.
pervertt 8 months ago
Ai Weiwei is a liar and did a lot of illegal things in China, he should be arrested and put into prison, you people who think he is a hero, you are totally wrong!
onlygun 9 months ago
@onlygun All of the charges that have been leveled against him smack of grasping at straws. Find some neglected corner of China's byzantine legal code to trip him up on, then use that to brand him a "criminal" and paint him as this dangerous, out of control hooligan. Yeah, that's also a standard tactic of totalitarian regimes, especially when they're desperate.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 thank you for your comnnet. Now in China you can make any critique to any people, it's kinda improvement of the "democracy" , however that doesn't mean you can lie to the people, and be the "opponent" of the government. Besides why Ai Weiwei still lives in China where the "motherland" he actually doesn't love, and why the government doesn't arrest other so-called"democracy-fighters"?
onlygun 8 months ago
@onlygun How as Ai Weiwei "lied" to the people? The government HAS arrested other people who are trying to bring democracy to China. They number in the thousands. Ai Weiwei is by no means the first, nor will he probably be the last, person the Chinese government has thrown in a dungeon for speaking the truth to power.
yerk3 8 months ago
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@yerk3 The westerners always happy to blame everything on the Chinese "imperial dictation" and the lack of "demopcracy", but how much do you know about the true China, give China some time, we Chinese will be strong in the near future and make the world more beatiful and peaceful, be patient , man. Please don't fear about Chinese development and China will not behave like America at all.
onlygun 8 months ago
@onlygun Thats exactly what some westerners fear. The Chinese working hard, paying for what they ask instead of stealing it. Trying to make business with everyone around the world offering everybody fair prices.
wwwtotalitaerde 8 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde These irrelevant distractions are transparently cynical. This has nothing to do with the Chinese working hard, or Western economic powers being afraid of China. This is a video about human rights abuses.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 Its cynical to manipulate and misuse chinese artists to run them into trouble,just to be able to blame China.And on the other hand supporting the German Nazi state torturing and murdering a large number of its subjects,for not taking part in its atrocities,including infiltration and subversion of many countries around the world.I can only accept people being pro human rights,if they support every human rights activist in whatever country.Selective support exposes couvert operations.
wwwtotalitaerde 8 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde Who is "manipulating and using" Ai Weiwei? If you mean concerned parties all over the world, who have no clear allegience to any one existing political entity, then you are sadly mistaken.
yerk3 8 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde The entire idea that any attempt to hold the Chinese government accountable for anything must be part of some nefarious scheme by double agents working for the evil Western powers is nothing more than a paranoid conspiracy theory.
yerk3 8 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde It's like McCarthyites in America in the 50s claiming that anyone who criticized the U.S. government or unfettered capitalism must be a Russian double agent. This kind of paranoid, conspiratorial thinking serves no one. It deflects accountability from those at fault, smears anyone who stands up for any kind of principle, and at the same time ultimately destroys the accuser's accountability by making them appear insane and delusional.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 If you are so decisively pro human rights,what are you going to do about the German BND systematically using rape,torture and assassination to silence any opposition?And educating secret services in many other countries how to do this?
Try to grab a German policeman like is shown at 4:12.You will be beaten up and be sentenced using openly false statements.
Search YT for:"Festnahme von Agent Provocateur der Polizei durch S21-Gegner".Its investigated for manslaughter,the bald guy is a cop
wwwtotalitaerde 7 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde Once again, this has absolutely nothing to do with Germany. If this video were about something that had any relation to Germany, then you would have an issue. If you want to speak out about Germany in a comments section, do it under a video about Germany, about something happening in Germany, or involving a German, any German, fuck, German food even. Go to a video about David fucking Hasselhoff and talk about your brother and the BND, but not here.
yerk3 7 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde Nobody here is supporting the German government. Your accusations and implications in this regard are completely unfounded. Once again: whatever is going on in Germany, for better or worse, is irrelevant here. Your repeated attempts to draw connections between anything in this video and anything happening in Germany fail completely. There is simply no connection.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 How can human rights abuses by Germany, having murdered 6 m Jews plus millions of Russians, Polish and others and still using rape, torture and murder, be irrelevant? Ai Weiwei is living. Most German dissidents have been murdered or are constantly being tortured to prevent them from speaking out.
wwwtotalitaerde 7 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde Because they have nothing to do with this situation. We are talking about the Chinese government, not the German government. Ai Weiwei is Chinese, not German. The Zichuan earthquake killed an inordinate number of Chinese schoolchildren, not German ones, due to shoddy construction by Chinese firms, not German ones, who colluded with the Chinese government, not the German one. Can you point out one way in which Germany is even tangentially connected to this case?
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3 So whatever atrocities Germany committs, this is not to be discussed, not even abroad. That is exactly what I have experienced. Because Germany has an enormous amount of snitchers all over the world, suppressing reports about Germany torturing and murdering. The US could not suppress reports about Guantanamo, Israel could not suppress reports about Gaza. Germany openly torturing and murdering, even torturing and murdering abroad can.
wwwtotalitaerde 7 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde They are not to be discussed HERE. Again, go to any video about Germany and commence your rant there. You are simply wasting your time here. This video has absolutely nothing to do with anything you're talking about, it is irrelevant. This video is not about Germany, it has nothing to do with Germany, nobody in this comment section has said anything about Germany except for you. Again, go to a video where your posts will actually be relevant.
yerk3 7 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde R U using self censorship by substituting
Germany for China? R U commenting from China & using
this very conning subterfuge to confuse the Chinese Stasi
and everyone else?-)
danger0usknowledge 6 months ago
@danger0usknowledge No, my words are to be taken at face value. And if you happen to be in Germany, I can show you the reality, which is quite contrary to the official propaganda. My brother had been tortured and was assassinated in 2009. My parents are still being tortured, brainwashed and they are not allowed to leave Germany. See my film Gifte english. Thats what the German BND is now doing with my father.
wwwtotalitaerde 6 months ago
@onlygun Thank you! I can't believe these people on here are talking about him like he's the new Jesus Christ or something!
epicturnip 8 months ago
Some of the murders by the German BND known to the public:
Uwe Barschel (politician), Jürgen Möllemann (politician), Heiner Gehring (author), Martina Pflock (political activist), Tron (internet activist), Karl Koch (political/internet activist), Bernd Seiffert (human rights activist), Kirsten Heisig (author/judge), Fritz Bauer (persecutor of the Frankfurt Auschwitz processes), Markus Bott (human rights activist).
Google the names and check out my channel and homepage.
wwwtotalitaerde 9 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde This has nothing to do with the German government or your conspiratorial obsessions.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 Whats actually the reason for you supporting German human rights abuses? Ive never seen this in any other country when someone complained about misconduct of his state. But whenever you mention the crimes of the German state you get assaulted. Even abroad. And this despite the history of Germany systematically using torture and murder.
wwwtotalitaerde 8 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde Since I hear very little news from Germany, it's not something I think about a lot. However, if I did find credible evidence that the German government was perpetrating gross human rights abuses, I would have cause for concern. Am I "assaulting" you? Maybe if this was a video that had anything to do with Germany, your comments here wouldn't be so asinine.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 My brother Markus Bott and other human rights activists in Germany were murdered, not put into prison for tax evasion. Of course Germany also is trying to frame opponents, or let them disappear in mental institutions. In most of these cases the German state is visibly lying,without the slightest clue of misconduct seen at the victim.
Ai Weiwei on the other hand fell into the tax trap, and I am pretty sure that some of his German "friends" are very lucky,as this allows them to blame China
wwwtotalitaerde 8 months ago
@wwwtotalitaerde Once again, this has nothing to do with your brother, the German government or anything happening in any part of Europe. You may as well be talking about something happening on another planet. You have repeatedly brought up Germany and your brother, as if they had anything to do with this, while failing to show any connection. If what you say is true, then what the German government is doing is bad and should be criticized, but this is simply not the place to do it.
yerk3 8 months ago
Chains provide the need for change. "Change Chains!"
lpecknold 9 months ago
You can't even watch YT videos in China
typoconnection 9 months ago
@typoconnection You only have to click on the statistics button of this video to see that this video CAN be seen in China. Without any need to go via US computers as then it would be counted as "seen in the US".
wwwtotalitaerde 9 months ago
Ai WeiWei T-shirts, etc. for sale: Search "Who's Afraid of Ai WeiWei" with Google, and enter the fb album that displays the products.
redfox1997 9 months ago
Most Americans can't see that communist style oppression is taking hold of their own country. They let the TSA grope their genitals. They let their government spy on them and rob their pensions from them. No fly lists for Ron Paul supporters, etc, etc. Why should TED congratulate the China Communist Party for lifting people from poverty when Mao Tse-tung was the biggest mass murderer in human history. All humans deserve freedom from oppression.
globalbankfraud 9 months ago 6
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crossroadsat34 9 months ago
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@globalbankfraud Spot on!
crossroadsat34 9 months ago
@globalbankfraud Spot on!
crossroadsat34 9 months ago
@globalbankfraud spot on!
cgseggal 9 months ago
@globalbankfraud Speak for yourself about what Americans think about the TSA. Most everyone I know is against that shit.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 That's good to hear - just need more people to stand up and do something about it.
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daiwong88 9 months ago
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xNo0bl3Tx 9 months ago
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cgseggal 9 months ago
ai weiwei has huge balls to do what he did and everyone should support him after all he is only wants what most of us already have. free ai weiwei
MrSleeps 9 months ago 4
@kokleongyip, "50 cent party"? if they are able to access youtube, youtube won't be blocked in mainland china and your account could be hacked. your political stance is part of your freedom, but please bear in mind that there are people there support china's communists and their believes are not bought by that 50 cent. stop your ignorance?
SamuraiLiker 9 months ago
when things go political, they are propaganda-ish~
SamuraiLiker 9 months ago
And? So a troublemaker got what was coming to him? So what? The Chinese government is crazy, everyone knows better than to make a scene. There is a difference between being bold, and being stupid. And It's not like the Chinese government is going to see any of these comments and websites, so there is no point in posting "free ai weiwe." Do you people honestly think this stuff is going to help at all?
epicturnip 9 months ago
@epicturnip And so everyone should be a coward? If a government is doing something wrong, people should make a fuss about it, no matter the consequences. It's called having a spine. If everyone followed quislings like you, we'd still all be living in the dark ages.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 I'm not saying "everyone should be a coward." I'm saying he knew what he was getting himself into, so he clearly wanted it to happen. It's not like he suddenly forgot the chinese government is crazy. He has just poking and prodding the lion until it got him. So he, he is a troublemaker that just wants attention. I'm all for standing up for what's right, but taking his route is not how it's done. (cont)
epicturnip 9 months ago
@epicturnip Actually, you are telling everyone to be a coward, and you prove it with each new post. What you're saying here has been said every time there has been a corrupt or brutal regime and anyone has ever tried to go up against it. The one thing the people who have said this have had in common is that they have been on the wrong side of history, and so are you. Your response to injustice is to simply bend over and say "more please!"
yerk3 8 months ago
@epicturnip Notice that "troublemaker" is always the word used by corrupt regimes to describe anyone who stands up to their shit? I'd rather be a "troublemaker" than a quisling any day of the week. We have "troublemakers" to thank for all of the freedoms we have. Without them, we'd each and every one of us still be living under the coarsest forms of feudalism. All hail the troublemakers! Builders of civilization and vanguards against tyranny!
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 Mess with the bull and you get the horns. What do people expect when dealing with the messed up chinese government? Everyone knows they are ridiculous with their censorship and they will do anything to silence what they don't like. It's not like it was some huge surprise that they arrested him. If he wants freedom so much, he can do what everyone else does and move to America or somewhere where you don't get arrested for making controversial art. (continued)
epicturnip 9 months ago
@epicturnip What should people expect when dealing with any messed up government. A fight, of course! Nobody is saying that this is something where we're going to see immediate change, but it's better than doing nothing. Going against corrupt and brutal regimes is dangerous, but it is something that must be done. Few are that brave, many can only hope to be, but those who piss on their bravery and take the side of might are destined to bury themselves and hide their faces in shame forever.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 Also, the internet is heavily filtered in China. What is the use in posting "free ai weiwe" when they aren't even going to see it? It's not like they are going to be hanging out on youtube and other sites and come across a boatload of comments and blogs about how they should "free him," and then what? They change their mind? No. They block it off from everyone and don't think twice about it. I don't support their censorship, but I think everyones reaction is ridiculous.
epicturnip 9 months ago
@epicturnip So everyone should just give up? I'd hate to think of a world where everyone had your spineless, defeatist attitude. I suppose that since none of us have the ability to single-handedly change this situation, no one should bother, right?
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 lol I'm not spineless. I live in America where the government may not be perfect, but it's certainly better than the insane chinese government. If someone continues to choose to live in China, they shouldn't complain about how it's run. Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. That's what billions of people have done that hate how their country is done. Yes, you shouldn't bother trying to change a machine of crazy powerhungry leaders. (cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@yerk3 There is a difference in standing up and just being controversial for the sake of controversy. Like I said, I'm all for standing up for what's right. But if I'm going to take the risk of getting ARRESTED for my actions, I sure as heck wouldn't want people "demanding" the government to release me. My whole point is, it's not like the chinese government is ever going to read youtube comments or blogs about Ai Weiwei, so all the posts and printouts are futile. (cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Ai Weiwei is not "being controversial for the sake of controversy." He is an artist, and sometimes art is controversial. Those who are controversial for the sake of controversy are harmless and never face persecution. Corrupt regimes only expend their time and energy on silencing someone if their ideas pose a legitimate threat to their power.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 Every post, every blog, every video and website defending Ai Weiwei just gets censored by the chinese government. It's like every comment is vanished to nothing as far as the crazy leaders are concerned. To you guys really think they care? Do you honestly thing a bunch of youtube comments are really going to do ANYTHING AT ALL? I know you guys are just showing support and everything, but really, it's useless. I doubt even Ai Weiwei sees these! (cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip What do think people should do then? How do you think people should protest the Chinese government? What do you think should be done about this? If the answer is "nothing," which I suspect, then you are a spineless coward and on the wrong side of history.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 I don't think the answer is "nothing." Protests are useless. Do you honestly thing a bunch of people whining about how they can't paint a controversial picture is going to change the mind of the CRAZY POWER HUNGRY OVERLORDS of China??? Protests RARELY ever work even in AMERICA. What the crap do you expect CHINA to do when it barely works in a FREE country??? (cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Then what do you think would work? You said it wasn't "nothing," but you never gave any alternatives.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 What happens when a kid throws a fit when he doesn't get his way? His parents punish him! What happens when a Chinese citizen throws a fit because he doesn't get his way? He gets his butt thrown in jail.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip I can't believe you're comparing someone being oppressed for standing up for the truth as they see it, to a kid being grounded. Are you really that deluded? Why don't you do what cowards do best and shut up.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 The only people that are even going to see the supportive comments and sites are people that already live in a country where they have the freedom to do so. It's like sending a letter to someone only to have someone intercept it and burn it up. It's useless.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Here's an idea: shut up. Just shut up. You obviously don't think saying anything is any use, so do what those regimes you seem to consider above reproach always tell everyone to do and shut your worthless bitch mouth. If you're not going to say anything of value, don't say anything. If you think it's such a bad idea to raise a fuss about anything, follow your own advice and shut up.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 "If you're not going to say anything of value, don't say anything." LOL like "free ai weiwei" makes any difference? XD I live in America, ever heard of the first amendment? Free speech? Something that CHINA does NOT have? I can say any "worthless" thing I want. People in China cannot. You know why? Because they get thrown in jail. "Shut up???" Way to be just like the CHINESE GOVERNMENT and tell me what NOT TO SAY. LOL. Uh oh, I hope I don't get arrested for expressing my opinion. XD
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Why aren't you shutting up? If speaking out is as useless as you claim, then why are you speaking out here? If questioning anyone or anything is such an excercise in futility, then save your time and energy and silence yourself.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 Because I'm not speaking out to an insane Chinese government, that's why. I'm not going to get arrested. lol my "time and energy?" I don't know how you use the internet, but for normal people, typing on a computer does not take much time or energy at all. XD What do you to, browse the internet on a treadmill or something? lol that's beside the point. I can do what I want. I'm not in China. (cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@yerk3 I never said "questioning anyone or anything is such an excercise in futility," stop putting words in my mouth.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip I'm not putting any words in your mouth, I'm summing up the position you have clearly stated. If that is not your position, then what is it? If Ai Weiwei's actions are so useless and pointless, then what would you rather he have done? You have expounded on what you consider to be the "wrong" way to do things, but have steadfastly refused to provide any alternatives. If your answer is NOT to bury your head in the sand and do nothing, then what IS it? Cough it up!
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 Obviously getting yourself thrown in jail is the result of doing things the wrong way. It's pretty simple. BTW I mostly mean the people's actions on the internet demanding his release is useless, but I agree that his actions were useless too. :) Did anyone really expect him to make any difference in the Chinese government by doing the useless crap he did? Did HE really expect to change anything? (cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Just answer the question. What SHOULD he have done. You've gone on and on ad nauseum about what you feel entitled to say he SHOULDN'T have done, but you are strangely silent on what, in your mind, the correct course of action should have been. If your reply to this is just more cowardly spittle directed at people you don't even deserve to lick the boots of, while still not addressing this question, then this conversation is over. Speak now, or forever hold your peace.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 Last time I checked China is still the same and people still have the same lack of rights they had before. The only difference HE made was getting HIMSELF ARRESTED. I'm NOT saying be a coward, but DO know where the INSANE CHINESE LINE is and KNOW that AS SOON AS YOU CROSS the freedom line, Chinese officials will find you and do whatever the crap they want to. I see all these people protesting his capture, but where are all the Chinese protesters? Being smart and keeping their mouth shut.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip You still haven't answered the question. Why are you so reticent, while at the same time being all too outspoken when it comes to bashing someone for having the guts to stand up to a corrupt regime? Are you going to answer or are you just going to evade by trashing people who are 100 times braver than you'll ever be?
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 What he "should have done" is not my problem, seeing as how I'm not whining about how my government runs things. lol "braver than me?" There is a huge difference between bravery and stupidity. If that government is going to arrest someone that makes controversial art and speaks his mind, then there is no changing it. I don't know at the moment what any one person could do to change the mind of hundreds of insane power-hungry overlords, but I do know that it's not by running his mouth.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Actually, it is. If you want to trash someone's methods, it behooves you to propose an alternative. Otherwise, you are just a worm throwing shit at people from a distance. What would you have said to Gandhi, Thorreau, Martin Luther King? By your logic, they were all stupid and everyone who supported them were just wasting their time. After all, the British Empire under no circumstances gave a shit about some Indian lawyer shaving his head and starving himself, so why bother?
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 "you are just a worm throwing shit at people from a distance" yep just like Weiwei. Oh please, I can't believe youre comparing some schmuck to Gandi & Martin Luther King XD. There u go again putting words in my mouth. I can trash whomever I want, I'm not the one sitting in a cell for stirring up a hornets nest. Let's say they release him, then what? It's not going to make a difference. They'll probably end up keeping him anyway. Or maybe they'll brainwash him. I say pass the popcorn ;)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Yeah, so what is the main difference between Ai Weiwei and those other guys? By your logic, since they decided to tangle with powerful, evil forces, and ultimately died for it, they must just be idiots. After all, carrying out a desperate struggle against a power that will almost certainly kill you, (or "stirring up a hornets nest" as you put it) in your book, crosses the line between bravery and stupidity. What words have I put in your mouth?
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 The main difference? LOL Are you serious? Please tell me you are joking. The main difference: They actually made a difference. China (government) is still the insane, censoring, freedom squashing tyrant it was before. The only difference Ai Weiwei made was a change in his location.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip The difference they made, did it all come at once? Was it instantaneous? Did the British immediately leave India the first time Gandhi was imprisoned? Did Apartheid end months after Mandela was imprisoned? Did slavery end the day they locked up Thoreau? Not a fucking chance. These were struggles that took decades. But because the Chinese government doesn't immediately cease their bullshit the moment they lock up Ai Wei Wei, he's a failure?
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 lol do you know how long people have been getting arrested in China for doing the all same things as Ai Weiwei? It's not like he is the first person, and it's not like people like him have just started to rebel. This has been going on for years and years and years and years. If it was going to make any difference, it would have happened by now. But maybe you're right. Maybe everyone in the Chinese government will all log into their youtube accounts and scroll through all these comments XD
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip Do you know how long people were being jailed and shot in India for resisting the British Empire? About 400 years. When they jailed Mandela, the various colonial regimes in Africa had been jailing dissidents, executing people, beating them to death, cutting their heads off and sticking them on stockade walls, also for 400 years.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 LOL do you really think someone getting put in jail is as bad as all that? You guys talk about this situation like it's some monumental, nation changing event or something. How long do you think it will take Chia to change? 500 yrs? 100 yrs? How many prisoners do you think it will take for China to change? Hmm? Two million? Three million? How many pages of Youtube comments do you think will get him released?
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip One minute, you're talking about how the Chinese government is so psychotic and homicidal that questioning them is sheer stupidity, the next, you're trying to downplay their human rights abuses? What is your major malfunction? Nobody is claiming that this will be a "nation changing event," but raising a fuss about it is something that anyone who cares must do. Of course, for every struggle, there have always been cowards like you throwing shit from the sidelines.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 "Nobody is claiming that this will be a nation changing event" With the way you keep comparing him to those people, rage out over my free speech like a steroid binger with pms, I thought otherwise. Back to my main point, with all these comments, blogs, websites, what do you guys expect to do? Show support? He's not going to see them. Convince the chinese government? They're not going to see them either. Encourage the freedomless people in China? They're not going to see them either.(cont)
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip well there are always such things as hackers...
in addition, if you know Chinese, you can try to post in their websites... no doubt it will be taken down within 3 hours, but for the most part... that is how Chinese people know about these things. And many (though I suspect still a minority) do know and look out for things like these. Or you can twitter too... I don't think that gets blocked.
snowwolfsabertooth 8 months ago
@yerk3 The only people that will see them are people that already have the freedom to do so in the first place.
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip By the time Martin Luther King was born, the South had been summarily executing any black man who asserted his humanity since before the fucking nation was founded. Compare that to the 70 or so years that the CCP has been oppressing people. Nobody here is under any illusion that protesting a brutal regime is something to be completed by lunchtime, the only one who seems to be going by the condensed version of history is you.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 LOL oh please XD This is NOTHING compared to that! XD Haha wow. They get killed, this schmuck gets thrown in a cell. Ohhh no stop the blood bath...... Oh the humanity... Some guy has to be bored in a room! *GASP!* It's so heartbreaking!
epicturnip 8 months ago
@epicturnip You yourself were celebrating the possibility that he would be "brainwashed," and citing China's history of human rights abuses as evidence of the futility of whatever he is doing. And no, this is not just about one man being arrested, China HAS been killing and torturing people, and they're probably torturing him, a fact which will no doubt propel you into a frenzied orgasm of schadenfreude.
yerk3 8 months ago
release ai weiwei
Vukartic 10 months ago 14
miss you weiwei please go to freeaiweiwei. org
blueoystercult22 10 months ago
I hope things will get better when more Chinese have higher standard of livingand education. Human rights, freedom of speech and democracy,these are the things that you need to learn and understand by yourself and it will happen in China. Who are we to tell what is best for them, i say let the Chinese choose what is best for them and their nation.
pkrit 10 months ago
Sounds like a real troublemaker this Weiwei guy. Just like the guy who got squashed in Tiananmen square, they just beg for it, and when it comes it's a big Ba-WA! If you pick your nose enough, blood comes out and this is exactly what happened. If you live in communist china, either live by the rules or get out. Chinese prison is the logical endpoint of this fools actions. Maybe they will let him out and he'll start it up again ad they kill him. What an idiot.
ZaphB 10 months ago
@ZaphB grow yourself the balls and demand freedom
spitfirez89 10 months ago 2
@ZaphB I completely agree.
epicturnip 8 months ago
Shame of my country. Good thing I am from hk cuz it is a British country once and is hong kong a seperate country
chelsea82000 10 months ago
Has anybody tried filing a complaint with the police in Shanghai or Beijing? It can't be legal to ruin his studio whoever did that should go to jail. I'd definitely sue the city!
jas16899 10 months ago
@superyiyiyi Let me ask you just one question:how can you log on YouTube in China?No censorship is felt in China?I have one friend put into two year labor campus for just one tweet!!!This damn shit government is so afraid of its own people!They dont even allowed people to type the word Freedom within WoW!Life improvement?Can't you see millions of people still are struggling to just make a living while those officials enjoyed a luxury life within and outside China?
kirkyan 10 months ago 2
Free ai weiei. Write to chinese officials in your City to free Weiwei and all the ten thousands of artists in chinese prisons!
beerybs 10 months ago
China, communist or no, is clearly a prosperous nation and that's fine. Censorship aside, it seems very similar to the US in terms of government corruption and bias which is inevitable in any system. However, I feel that as long as true censorship and political imprisonment exist, it will harm the nation and the people in the long term. I doubt the government or ordinary life would change very much if censorship stopped tomorrow. Yet that fear of one's own people does nothing but harm.
fireant202 10 months ago
oh wow they got ai wei wei on skype
snowwolfsabertooth 10 months ago
@snowwolfsabertooth lol it's a conspiracy. There's no way the Chinese freaking government would allow it. They filter EVERYTHING on the internet there, and there is no way they would allow him to talk about the situation.
epicturnip 8 months ago
If the China is playing the "Let's keep it Secret" game and if this game keeps the chinese economy more vibrant than rest of the world, then I believe, China have all the reason to protect his game.
robertovejarasco 10 months ago
I just feel like this is a huge joke that Chinese people knows exactly what the outside world is like and we are blaming ourselves, so that we can catch up and be better, But the western world REALLY doesn't know anything about China and most people still think Chinese people can't get information form the outside world. Its funny that in China people can watch those foreign shows that critizise China. and we are laughing at how uneducated the people who made these shows are.
SuperYiyiyi 10 months ago
Whenever you see those news or documentary shows that speard the negative image about China. Please think twice, why do you think they do that? China's human right situation has already been improved and normal people can't feel cencership at all(the only thing is you can't have public protest, they are cencerning of public riot. and you do can criticize government which a lot people do) I feel like western people should listen to our voice. DON'T JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU LIKE TO BELIEVE!!
SuperYiyiyi 10 months ago
@SuperYiyiyi u do know that it is quite hypocritical to claim that normal people in china do not feel censorship at all over here while youtube is practically censored in China... The harassment and arrest of Ai weiwei without trial is illegal in my country where the right of one to defend his crime is embedded in our constitution. It is in your country's constitution too, just that the authority chose not to give a damn, that's y it is illegal and is a form abuse in human right
ngso0009 10 months ago
@SuperYiyiyi I can tell you: China's human rights issues have NOT improved at all. How can you pretend such a thing :-)))
beerybs 10 months ago
people may have more freedom to critisize the government. But they will be suffering much worse proverty or even a war. In fact, I have lived in China for 20 years, which I can tell you the life here is different from what you guys see on your TV everyday. China tried so hard to let the world to see the ture China, but saddly some people just doesn't like this and try every way to blame China for no reason. Let's be fair, I also lived in the US for 5 years, so please don't think I'm "brainwashed
SuperYiyiyi 10 months ago
@SuperYiyiyi We all know how rich China from the hundred billion dollars events like Olympics and Expo. The progress of china in economics and bringing people out of poverty are admirable, but it doesn't mean China is not suffering from human right abuse. Show me a case where China respect human right and freedom of speech, I had enough of wonderful fireworks and ever rising skyscrapers. These are irrelevant to this clip.
ngso0009 10 months ago
as a Chinese, I'm so sad to see all these comments that are made by people who obviously doesn't know the ture China. Do people really think China can be better by adopting demoracy system? We are talking about different history and civilization patern. China couldn't have the success in economy today if China is a democratic society, even worse, the whole country will fall apart due to the internal and foreign pressure.
SuperYiyiyi 10 months ago
@SuperYiyiyi Why Chinese government is so afraid of its people embrace global value, such as freedom of speech? I believe they must be hiding something, something that is so sensitive that the Communist might be overthrown like Libya or Egypt. Did you know how many people are sacrificed to make our economy possible? We chased after GDP, however our capital per person is very relatively low. China is rich, because we have very cheap labor. You might not realize it if you are a rich people.
wanleaf 10 months ago
without no one to tell you how to free yourself cause guess what everyones mouths shut!a basic freedom ,a freedom of life itself hes an artist ,feels like a publicity stunt,found a good way to make money and make an important point ,do you think we would have found bob dylan if he was chinese you think he could have smoked a joint(illegal words in chinese
)peacefully to write those beautiful lyrics.im not saying wei wei's like dylan but he is still aperson who needs his spacelike all of us
FatYellowMoon 10 months ago
democracy is not u.s ,its always been there ,even before north america was clear to us.the notion of freedom is to intertwined with the individual .you were never to be born with chains,but in society we are tied through social ties, but so loose,that we have "insanity" to let us free,and to do what we want to do,and face the mild consequences .but just imagine a future where,both our arms and feet are tied down ,unable to move,unable to sing,unable to draw,cant let go..look up
FatYellowMoon 10 months ago
Another Chinese traitor locked up. Only 1.3 billion left to go.
pervertt 10 months ago
@pervertt - I would give this comment two thumbs up if I could! 97.8% of the people commenting on youtube will probably think we're both communists now, but so be it.
LegacyNSFW 10 months ago
@pervertt I wish I could bump your comment to the top of the list.
LaMeschina 10 months ago
'We understand the Chinese authorities concern at anything which might provoke social unrest.'
Really? Seriously? What else do you understand? I'm curious.
cimatube 10 months ago
@cimatube the chines pemette onlu=y onyly one thiing : the peace,and the no war!
coltec111 10 months ago
where is the transcription？
iwant58 11 months ago
There is a petition running on change.org for the release of ai weiwei. Please sign it.
sunburnfrostbite 11 months ago
Peeps, let's do our part in keeping justice
and AWW the man himself alive:
let us spread the word and email the link to
this video to a friend or two.
crossroadsat34 11 months ago
china is very good if ur rich and dont give a fuck about politics.
clubbing, bars, movies, pretty much anything, good place to be for a guy like me.
tonytian1102 11 months ago
seems he's alive...unbelievable
lsnallen 11 months ago
You can be sure that some of Beijing security thugs-creeps are posting on here. Heres a novel concept , all power to the People
contacter 11 months ago
FREE AI WEIWEI Beijing tyrants
contacter 11 months ago 7
LOL, the mighty Chinese government is afraid of its own people. The elephant afraid of the mouse. Hilariously shamefully funny. The Chinese government is not powerful but small and afraid.
contacter 11 months ago
as an Uyghur person, i show my deep respect to Ai wei wei! democracy, freedom of speech,human rights..these are the same things which Uyghurs, Tibetens have been strugling. the Comunist party is not only the enemy of Uyghurs and Tibetens, but also the enemy of chinese people. we should come together, we should unite to say goodbye to those CCP dictators who is enslaving us, who is depriving us of our basic freedom, our dignity.
Pantekin 11 months ago