They seem to have positioned the tanks there as a historical monument. All these tanks do not look like tank wrecks. They either put second hand tanks there or took parts from different destroyed thanks to make up these ones.
i honestly cant stand the people who come on here and talk shit about the german soldiers who died in my opinion the germans were not the war criminals the u.s and the allied forces were and i live in the usa i wish i could trace my roots back and find out if i have any relatives that were in the war because im german and ukranian wish i could find out
During the war, German soldiers that were new to the eastern front, would sometimes mistake a bunch of knocked out Russian tanks for an attacking force. The Russians would lose hundreds of tanks in a single battle and often they would still be in formation. The Russians nearly lost the war because, even though they had abundant men and tanks, they were horrible tactitions.
@sissonsk true..stalin also feared a 2nd russian revolution..which..if the germans had played on it would have forced him into an armistice while dealing with it..much like what happened to the tsar in ww 1
America didn't do it alone and had brave allies. but her industrial might and population helped sway the end of the war. The countries that were smashed by the German Army such as Belgium, Holland, France, did not seem to mind to get military aid from America, use the equipment and supplies. Do not forget the nations that I listed had their own countrymen bow and lick the boot heals of their conquerers and betrayed their own countrymen. Funny to see all the bashers squak and how they forget.
i'm proud that we bombed and battled nazi germany into submission..they may of had weapons but in no way were or will they ever compare to Americas might. we crossed an ocean to destroy the inferior German army .if they had such great weapons why didn't they bring it to American soil..that's right they were inferior sub human Nazis. and they lost in the air ,land and sea
@bentgrin Well the Americans would have been no match fo the Germans. You do know that they fought on 3 fronts during the war and almost won? America was just a piss in the sea.
@Gotlanning The Germans were formidable, without a doubt. You are forgetting however that the US was fighting in Africa, Europe and the Pacific while supplying the rest of their allies with supplies at the same time.
@Gotlanning Lets see, the US had to mobilize their armies thousands of miles.(both Europe and Asia) Perform offensive attacks on multiple fronts and defeated the Germans in almost every battle (except the first one at Kasserine Pass), not to mention the hundreds of Islands that they took from the Japanese.
@stuka52 Wow tell that to the Russians that lost a few million soldiers and dont forget the Englishmen :D. It is nice that you taught me history there ;).
The US almost lost, if they did not use their disgusting weapons of mass destruction on civillian towns they would have lost.
US have alsways loved that carpet bombing. Those inhumane cowards!
@Gotlanning Germany had already surrendered 3 months earlier and Japan had been driven back to their home Island, the atomic bombings saved both American and Japanese lives. You're a moron!
@Gotlanning You sir have your history wrong, and your facts greatly skewed. I'm hoping you are just some 13 year kid trying to seem like you have an informed opinion .... if not then you sire have the IQ of gravel.
@lonewulf44 Did you look up the article that I told you about? my Grandfather even have pictures of the event. And he WAS there!
I am 28, have a IQ of 127, former fighter pilot in the Swedish Airforce, today I own 1 company specialized in agriculture and fly a B-jet. So you are obviously wrong in that sence.
Btw I have realtives that fought in the SS, they where not evil like history tell us. I have also studied WW2 for close to 10 years now ;).
@Gotlanning I guess I have a hard time believing that when you make statements like "The US almost lost" and "their disgusting weapons of mass destruction". The US was never in a position to 'lose' the war. And you apparently value some kind of principle or code over human lives. The atomic bombings saved MILLIONS of lives ... both allied and Japanese.
@lonewulf44 US hand no chance and was saved by the Russians becaus thats where the Germans had a real resistance and they also sent their best men there. The US had inferior weapons and soldiers.
@Gotlanning Hmmm , no one would disagree that Eastern front chewed up the great majority of German arms and manpower ... and more importantly the panzer divisions. Yet it was Kruschev I believe who said that it was American trucks that moved the Red Army forward after Stalingrad. It was American supplies that allowed Soviet industry to focus production on only primary large scale combat vehicles. It was British resistance that allowed for various fronts and theatres away from just the east.
@Gotlanning Inferior weapons? The US had by far the best technology that was put into the war. Naval and Air power the Americans and British far outclasses the Germans. German secret weapons held a lot of potential but were not decisive at all during the war, due to mainly Hitler's bungling. Even the German leads in armor technology were almost erased by the end of the war. The M26 Pershing was finally a tank that could match the German and Soviet armor. As for inferior soldiers ... Okinowa
@lonewulf44 Best technology you say? I am sorry but at a tank fan I must disagree and also the veterans that I talked to did say that the German tanks where just much better and more advanced.
It was the numbers that made them win, not the technology.
Okinowa was at a whole different battlefield and one that I am not too educated on so I cannot say much there.
@Gotlanning You also state "US have alsways loved that carpet bombing. Those inhumane cowards!" which seems like the lines of a 3rd grader with no perspective or understanding of combat and warfare during the Second World War. The US targeted industrial cities of the Reich just as the RAF and to smaller extent the Soviets. Troop centers and civilians were almost always caught in that firestorm whether in London or Breslau or Dresden.
@lonewulf44 They strafed fleing civilians with the fighters and fire bombed cities where there was no military targets. Thats not warfare thats genocide and murder! I know alot about WW2 and have researched alot about that special period in time (10years) so do not come here and tell me that I am clueless.
@Gotlanning Hmmm, like I mentioned mistakes were made and civilians sometimes pad the price for that. But that kind of warefare was started and definitely carried out primarily by the non western forces. I'll be nice and say I believe that you know a lot about WW2 ... if that is the case then you also have a very biased skewed version of events.
@Gotlanning Attempting to label the Western Allied forces fighting the Axis as 'inhumane' is irresponsible and in light of who they were fighting, what they DIDN'T do during the war, and the infinite good and positive things achieved, just wrong. Were the US and British forces perfect in all respects? Of course not ... but it's a pretty spotless sheet when you compare to the Soviet, German, or Japanese forces.
@lonewulf44 There was nothing good about fighting the Germans. The evil powers won and that can clearly be seen in Europe these days.
German forces where the most honorable forces that fought during WW2.. Who where allied with the soviets again? yes the US and British and that says it all!
I will never forgive the allied forces for what they did to Europe. We now live in the hell they created.
@Gotlanning While the older generations of Eastern europe might believe that somewhat as the half century of communist enslavement could sway that opinion. Many German units fought honorable and many German men were drafted only being told that the country had to fight and was being attached from the air and strangled from the sea. Without any knowledge or voice from the outside they fought and worked to defend Germany.
@lonewulf44 Eastern europe is not destroyed by the propagande that we have ben fed with here since the war. And they saw what the Soviets etc did and that memory is not something that you will easily overcome.
It is kind of ironic that those countries that was under Soviet rule is actually better of now than we that escaped that hell. Because here people cannot see the warning signs and are to naive to see that their freedom is taken away.
@Gotlanning That being said, you can't claim that 'german forces' were the most honorable as that ignores just about every fact to the contrary. You mentioned being allied to the soviets ... what moron put them together? Hitler in just one of his major moronic moves DoW on the US and put them together ... he destroyed Germany with his foreign policy. As for the Hell they created .... well the grass is not always greener ... or in this case hell is not always cooler on the other side of the hill
@lonewulf44 Well Hitler did not want any war. UK, Poland, US, and the Soviets did however and thats why the war started.
That the Soviets planned to invade Germany is something that is known these days. And the Germans also knew that it was either them or the Soviets to take the initiative.
@Gotlanning Hitler invaded Poland knowing full well that a treaty had been signed with England and France. These two countries had no choice but declare war with Nazi Germany to respect that treaty!
@Gotlanning Who invaded Poland in order to trigger England and France to declare war on Germany to respect the treaty signed with Poland? Answer Germany! Who was the #1 asshole in Europe who singlehandedly made WW2 to take place? Hitler, that's who. I don't even want to go into the "final solution" chapter.
@Gotlanning Hmmmm, British banks and the economy suffered and went bust or dependent because of the war. The entire British empire basically disolved and was hurried into oblivion for the war ... I don't think the British fought for their banks. The soviet union held central centres of banking power for the state but their control was ultimately always tied to the state. I don't think the state wanted nor fought a war to see 1/3 of the country burned in fire and shells.
And for the US ... the Japanese cowardly attached America and the fool corporal Declared War against them ... I'm not sure any 'master' pulled or pushed the US through the war. Not sure what book your reading but I think you need to find another ... one not blinded by some kind of odd ideology or political bias.
@Gotlanning I didn't see the article, but would be interested in reading it. Especially if it has a personal connection which is pretty need. Respect to your Grandfather for fighting. Have you been able to talk to him about his experiences? My Grandfather was in the artillery during the war and has just opened up recently about it. We can agree on the way the SS is covered in todays media and in history ... very skewed and lumped together as if the SS was just a club of Himmler clones.
@MrAmptech I am a decendant of a proud soldier who defended Europe against the communist plague. I do not deny the existence of camps and never will, concentration camps existed well before WW2 and they exist today, US , UK etc etc they all used and use them to some extent.
I am not stupid and do not believe in fairytales. I stay open minded and believe in the proof that I see instead of falling for the emotional aspect.
@Gotlanning The Germans would have lost anyway. With or without their display of superiority in Japan! I dare you to call Americans cowards. Are you a sore German looser, humiliated in WW1 an WW2?? And still without a bonafide army air force etc...
@Gotlanning cowards? say what you please about the american government...but implying american people in general are cowards well i guess i should be speaking german and you would of been gassed a long time ago
@stuka52 Don't waste your beneath on gotlanning, he is dumb as a rock. Sweden was considered by most Allied nations to be the biggest war profiteers during WWII and they even had some that volunteered for service with Germany. "The US almost lost, if they did not use their disgusting weapons of mass destruction on civillian towns they would have lost" - this shows just how little he understands of history.
@stuka52 The US had fought island by island dealing with strong resistance and suicide attacks. Japan was contacted after each atomic bomb had been dropped and they refused to surrender until Tokyo was being bombed. Most historians agree that the bombs killed fewer japanese than a ground assault would have.
@MrAmptech The Japanese cities were also notified BEFORE the bombs were dropped. And historians argue over a lot of things .. but it's not just 'most historians' its every historian agree that the bombs saved overall lives ... that is fact not opinion. Even the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more than fat man and little boy. Millions of Japanese lives (not to mention the nation) (Civ and Combat) were saved as well as tens of thousands of US soldiers.
Interesting video but I'm sceptical of the very good condition of these T-34-85's after 60 plus years wasting away outdoors plus I didn't notice any real battle damage either. Where are the high velocity armor piercing shot holes in the turrets or HEAT holes from Panzershrecks or Panzerfausts burning through the armor plate. I suspect this is a war memorial set up by the Russians at some point in the past to commemorate the battle here.
@Dagger1955 Jeez, ya think? Pretty obvious that this is a preservation project. Why the fuck else would every single tank be sitting on a slab of concrete? That there just happened to be a slab at the very spot where every tank died? Derp, get a clue.
@floydfreak63 Yeah, I do. You ought to have somebody teach you how to do that although I doubt it would do you any good. Crawl back under your rock son.
Überhaupt: Warum schreibe ich Dir eigentlich auf Englisch? Ich bin Deutscher. Wenn Du nichts anderes zu tun hast als über die deutschen Soldaten zu lästern dann tue dies gefälligst in MEINER Sprache.
"It´s their fault". Again - how old are you? Reading your comments I´m meanwhile convinced the German Wehrmacht did absolutely the right. And that´s YOUR fault. Simply looking at the losses during the war I also know who really won this war. Although Germany fought against the whole world, it took six years to defeat the armed forces - not the country. Today Germany is one of the economic most powerful countries in the world. I´m proud of Germany´s history and have every reason for that.
@Kal50BMG are you proud of the maasacres, of auschwitz and so on... Luckily for germany, the cold war made a strong germany a necessity, so the marshall plan was devised:-) Otherwise you would still sit in your bombed down houses
@livadi9 Forget it - It doesn´t work any longer. Soldiers of every country committed war-crimes: USA: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, USSR: Katyn and Nemmersdorf, GB: Cologne and Dresden, France: O.K., just 6 weeks figthing, they had nothing to do with WW2. In our country war-criminals were charged after the war, in your country there are obviously no such individuals. You´re simply not willing to accept the truth, that´s it. Yes, I´m proud of Germany´s history and I abhor the so called "Nazis".
@Kal50BMG were they? Some were charged, others not. What about Filbinger or the the former chancellor Kiesinger and so on. It is lame to excuse criminal acts with your argument
@livadi9 Excuse? Why shoud I ? Do I know them personally? Am I responsibly for their crimes? Just accept, that there´s a new generation of Germans. A crime is a crime, no matter which soldier of which country committed it.
I´ll allways blame the socalled "Allies" for their war crimes as I despise the SS-Einsatzgruppen for their massacres. You just take the easy way out. Your choice. But I´ll allways admire the bravery of the German soldiers. My choice.
@Kal50BMG bravery?? Stupidity fits it better. There wouldn´t have been Nemmersdorf(much exaggerated by nazi propaganda) without the countless nazi-massacres in Russia. The individual german soldiers might have been brave, but what did they cause by their bravery? Your way indeed is an easy way out
@livadi9 1945 General Mac Arthur considered the Russians a greater menace than the Nazis had ever been - complete barbarians - as exemplified by one commander who has issued orders that every woman, between the ages of 16 and 60, was to be raped twice by Russian soldiery as an example of the superiority of the Russian race. So you can tell me whatever you want: The German Soldiers fought for the right thing but for the wrong man. I´m very proud of them.
@Kal50BMG mcarthur?? LOL he wanted to nuke china during the korean war, no matter that this would have started WWIII. And again the germans(not the nazis) considered slavs to be untermenschen. The Untermenschen paid them back in kind for every single rape, murder, robbery burned house and so on
@livadi9 Have your conviction, I have mine. Courage is no political manner. The German Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS were better trained and better motivated than all Allied Troops. That´s fact. You can tell whatever you want: Germans shot down the most planes, destroyed the most tanks and sunk the most ships. The names of German Army-Leaders are well known even today - for good reason. No country ever had the courage to fought the whole world and sustained six years. I´m proud of the German Army.
@Kal50BMG they sustained six years only because grear britain and France did nothong to stop them in time.
Chamberlain´s appeasement did the job. As for the bravery of the german soldiers what did they achieve by it? The total destruction of germany, the best and brightest germas dead on the battle-fields and so on
@Kal50BMG can not forget the germans also, had better weapons like the mg 42 .the type 21 uboot.tiger tanks .the first combat jet the me 262 .I am also proud of the luffwaffen .and the kreigsmarine .
looks liek a torrest trap tbh!! if the hatch was closed when the tank is hit it will pull basicly anything inside the tank out the exit hole and make a right mess...plus i dout she any places were the shells wud of hit the tanks themselfs or proof of fire........
The Tiger and King Tiger kicked all the allies tanks ass but there were'nt enough of them and they were a nightmare if they had any mechanical failures whereas the allies tanks were easy to make and their crews were expendable. The T34 was easily the best allied tank of WW2 but everyone quickly adopted its revolutionary sloping armour but the easily best tank of WW2 was the Panther which had it all, great gun, great sloping armour and best of all a very low profile. RESPECT to ALL the veterans.
@Pitchplus8 umm well im not mr expert, but the t34 had slanted armour which was an innervation with tank design as well as a better main gun and was introduced in 1940 by the ussr and the Sherman had more basic armour, a slightly worse gun and was introduced by the usa in 1942 :)
The tourists seem to be speaking Polish or Russian. The tanks may have nice paint jobs outside, but the insides look as if they were hit and abandoned in WW2. Lot of tanks destroyed on the eastern front.
The tourists seem to be speaking Polish or Russian. The tanks may have nice paint jobs outside, but the insides look as if they were hit and abandoned in WW2. Lot of tanks destroyed on the eastern front.
If only the turret was damaged, then the hull would most certainly have been transported to a repair facility, either under it's own power or towed, salvaged/repaired and returned to service. In the event that rehab and/or repair were adjudged economically unfeasible, the asset's useable parts would have been scavanged for utilization elsewhere. The asset would certainly not have been left to rust in situ.
Generally speaking, the military (including those of communist states) will try to salvage and rehab damaged assets, particularly those as expensive as armor and especially so when they enjoy post-battle possession of the field, as was the case here. Usually, the only assets that remain in situ are those that are impaired or damaged beyond economic repair/salvage and as I said, none of those tanks look like they sustained damage to the extent that they were beyond salvage.
@averbakh01 I agree that not every hit results in a "brew-up" or damage sufficiently extensive to justify abandonment; nevertheless, I would expect to see a few hulks manifesting the symptoms of such an event. From what I observed, not a single tank depicted in the video exhibited damage sufficiently debilitating to justify the asset's abandonment in situ.
Those "wrecked" T34 are in pretty good condition..... makes me suspect that those "wrecked" T34s were way likely obselete T34s that were placed there for effect as part of the memorial.
@lukebccb I think you are right. Usually, when a tank is hit, it catches fire and if it catches fire, the main-gun's ammo usually explodes and that usually leads to the turret being blown off and the rest of the tank being reduced to a burned-out hulk. I didn't see a single example of that kind of destruction on the video, which inclines me to agree with you.
@prometheus 19853---nice to believe in fairy tales isn't it. Even Guderian conceded that the T-34 was a fairly decent tank and would disagree with your10:1 ratio. More like 2:1 which was enough to win the war!
@chuckbuckbobuck ah, yes, the T-34.... little pest of a tank, but a damn good idea, slanting the armor. They were pretty under-gunned for my tastes, but it still got the job done, i apllaud the designer on that one! But the E series tanks were capable of the same production rate, for a considerably more impressive product, id like to see a T-34 attack a super-high velocity 105mm equipped tank that has 203mm frontal armor and 120mm on sides and back. Oh, and its armor is sloped too.
German tanks were the best of the war, Russian and American die-hards can sya what they want. The ONLY reason Germany lost was the low production rate of their tanks, but each tank was worth 4~5 comparable American tanks and 10 comparable Russian tanks (i say 10 cause the Russian tanks were shit)
@Prometheus19853 That's irrelevant. You can't win a prolonged world war by making the most complicated piece of machinery. The soviets and americans realized this. Quantity has a quality all its own....
@Prometheus19853: SUBhuman VERMIN SCUM hitler should've thought about that before IT *INVADED* Russia. And don't give me YOUR WHINING SNIVELLING "oh but Stalin was gonna invade first" crap...... SUBhuman VERMIN SCUM hitler *INVADED* Russia and that's how it's recorded in history.
@lukebccb Ok, this seems to be a personal thing now..... I am merely stating that the Entwicklung series tanks could have won the war for Germany, im not saying Hitler wasnt completely batshit insane, im just saying that the soldiers that fought and died for his crusade would have benefited from the presence of the E-10 through E-100 tanks on the battlefield.... dont take it personally, and i know how shit went down.
@CabinCruzer25 Well, your not correct about any of it. The ventilators were added to the T34-/85 in 1942 and it was the T-34/85 1943 Model along with the commanders cupola in the three man turret, not post war. Those are very much war era turrets, very much war era tanks. By the way the copula was even made on some later productions of the T-34/76 1942 models as well.
@poumista later in the war the Germans were producing oversized underpowered semi mobile pillboxes that
they could not keep supplied with fuel or lubricants or even properly trained crews. arguably the ONLY good
tank that was made by the Germans after 1940 was the Panther and there were never enough of them...the Russians had just introduced the T54 tank before the end of the war and they could have been in full production by early 1946
@stevem88 they hadnt intruduced what we know as the t54 today... it was far from what today still drives in africa . it had shot traps , a gun that was weaker than the german 88 and wasnt as good armoured was the "newer models"!
they had STARTED mass production of the t44 but this too had many problems with reliability...
@SVB222 at least yes, but I think the Panther I (Sd.Kfz. 171) was the first try to copy the T34 - later not more than 950 Tiger one have been entered the Eastern Front at all (German tank production of all types in WW2 was about 50.000 panzers without the Tigers) ... hey, but this video is showing a great place to visit. It seems that all the tanks are restorated to the conditions they were found after the battle, cleaned and painted ... and you are allowed to explore the wrecks, isn´t it?
@livadi9 What kind of excuse is that? The other one began. Would you tell this raped girls and women?How old are you? And by the way: The GERMANS began nothing - it was just the sick idea of Hitler to invade Russia. Personally I´m convinced Stalin planed to invade Germany just a few weeks later. But however: I´m proud of the military success of the german army and give a shit who won this war. And no, I´m not a "nazi".
@Kal50BMG the germans followed him like sheep to the slaughter-house so it is their fault. I would tell this to german women who went through this, because they all gave shit to what happened in russia, poland, greece and in the concentration camps. And they all knew what happened(lieber gott mach mich stumm, dass ich nicht nach Dachau komm) what miltiary success? a destroyed impotent europe? decades of cold war?
all those t-34's would of been striped down they would have no tracks turrets mg's and the engine parts would of been gone all the paint would of gone so those tanks are not recks they are an memoral or some kind of dioramma
those t-34 all look like they have just rolled out of the factory and if they were reckeges then they would of been takon away or salviged also those tanks older then my mom and shes 51 so all those t-34's would of rusted all over
@stryker214 Also tanks that were knocked out but repairable would not have been left like that right after battle, they'd be salvaged, repaired and sent back to kill jerry. I really think that its some kind of monument site...
It is a memorial, the German tank is late model PzKw IV, probably an Aus J or H (note the long 75mm gun and the armor skirts) and the T-34 is a later 85mm model with the three man turret.
I'd guess the tanks did'nt take part in any WWII action rather being T-34s that belonged to former Czechslovakian Army until the 80's. The tanks would be in worse condition in the open for 60 yrs. Anyway, it's a wonderful memorial which really gives a feel of reality. Congratulations.
This is not KURSK! Its area in north-east Slovakia. Between town Svidnik and Dukla Pass. Its something like slideshow for tourists, there is lot of T-34, and other tanks like IS-2, panzer IV or other kind of vehicles like halftracks, pieces of artillery. There is also one nice museum in town of Svidnik with tanks too.
This place is almost like a park of some sort. And a memorial I guess. "Lest we forget', isn't that the standard mantra of any war? But man, what a park. Very impressive looking with all those tanks on the hillside. Really gives you a feel for what it looked like back then. Good stuff.
Karosa bus ;)
Freskotas 1 week ago
KInda strange that no scrap thieves try to cut em up.
Mrpsychotehpyro 1 month ago
NOT WRECKS
fordxbgtfalcon 1 month ago
They seem to have positioned the tanks there as a historical monument. All these tanks do not look like tank wrecks. They either put second hand tanks there or took parts from different destroyed thanks to make up these ones.
AdstarAPAD 1 month ago
@AdstarAPAD yeah I agree they do not look like blown out hulls,
tiberiousss 1 month ago
How come every single freaking video about tanks has to have a stupid back and forth fight! Cant you just watch it and move on?
Grandeblue 1 month ago
i honestly cant stand the people who come on here and talk shit about the german soldiers who died in my opinion the germans were not the war criminals the u.s and the allied forces were and i live in the usa i wish i could trace my roots back and find out if i have any relatives that were in the war because im german and ukranian wish i could find out
bigjack216 1 month ago
Man ... would love to visit that place. Lucky guys there.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
I would be afraid to get down there and find it full of bees.
supressorgrid 1 month ago
During the war, German soldiers that were new to the eastern front, would sometimes mistake a bunch of knocked out Russian tanks for an attacking force. The Russians would lose hundreds of tanks in a single battle and often they would still be in formation. The Russians nearly lost the war because, even though they had abundant men and tanks, they were horrible tactitions.
sissonsk 2 months ago
@sissonsk true..stalin also feared a 2nd russian revolution..which..if the germans had played on it would have forced him into an armistice while dealing with it..much like what happened to the tsar in ww 1
1942PANTHERV 1 month ago
Looks like somebody has been helping themselves to some tank engine parts.
TheGodParticle 2 months ago
That German tank is worth more than your house !, why dont you steal it, and ill give you a very good price ? I can collect.......
mark24875218 2 months ago
America didn't do it alone and had brave allies. but her industrial might and population helped sway the end of the war. The countries that were smashed by the German Army such as Belgium, Holland, France, did not seem to mind to get military aid from America, use the equipment and supplies. Do not forget the nations that I listed had their own countrymen bow and lick the boot heals of their conquerers and betrayed their own countrymen. Funny to see all the bashers squak and how they forget.
CannibalCarp 3 months ago 2
i'm proud that we bombed and battled nazi germany into submission..they may of had weapons but in no way were or will they ever compare to Americas might. we crossed an ocean to destroy the inferior German army .if they had such great weapons why didn't they bring it to American soil..that's right they were inferior sub human Nazis. and they lost in the air ,land and sea
bentgrin 3 months ago
@bentgrin As if America did it all alone..
Dutchforce14 3 months ago
@Dutchforce14 Very well put. It was the ALLIED FORCES. Take that from an American.
callmecamo2 3 months ago
@bentgrin mong
RangerYorki 3 months ago
@bentgrin Jesus, where did you learn your history from? A Sgt. Rock comic book obviously.
floydfreak63 2 months ago
@bentgrin Well the Americans would have been no match fo the Germans. You do know that they fought on 3 fronts during the war and almost won? America was just a piss in the sea.
Gotlanning 2 months ago
@Gotlanning The Germans were formidable, without a doubt. You are forgetting however that the US was fighting in Africa, Europe and the Pacific while supplying the rest of their allies with supplies at the same time.
MrAmptech 2 months ago
@Gotlanning Lets see, the US had to mobilize their armies thousands of miles.(both Europe and Asia) Perform offensive attacks on multiple fronts and defeated the Germans in almost every battle (except the first one at Kasserine Pass), not to mention the hundreds of Islands that they took from the Japanese.
stuka52 1 month ago
@stuka52 Wow tell that to the Russians that lost a few million soldiers and dont forget the Englishmen :D. It is nice that you taught me history there ;).
The US almost lost, if they did not use their disgusting weapons of mass destruction on civillian towns they would have lost.
US have alsways loved that carpet bombing. Those inhumane cowards!
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Germany had already surrendered 3 months earlier and Japan had been driven back to their home Island, the atomic bombings saved both American and Japanese lives. You're a moron!
stuka52 1 month ago
@Gotlanning You sir have your history wrong, and your facts greatly skewed. I'm hoping you are just some 13 year kid trying to seem like you have an informed opinion .... if not then you sire have the IQ of gravel.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 Did you look up the article that I told you about? my Grandfather even have pictures of the event. And he WAS there!
I am 28, have a IQ of 127, former fighter pilot in the Swedish Airforce, today I own 1 company specialized in agriculture and fly a B-jet. So you are obviously wrong in that sence.
Btw I have realtives that fought in the SS, they where not evil like history tell us. I have also studied WW2 for close to 10 years now ;).
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning I guess I have a hard time believing that when you make statements like "The US almost lost" and "their disgusting weapons of mass destruction". The US was never in a position to 'lose' the war. And you apparently value some kind of principle or code over human lives. The atomic bombings saved MILLIONS of lives ... both allied and Japanese.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 US hand no chance and was saved by the Russians becaus thats where the Germans had a real resistance and they also sent their best men there. The US had inferior weapons and soldiers.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Hmmm , no one would disagree that Eastern front chewed up the great majority of German arms and manpower ... and more importantly the panzer divisions. Yet it was Kruschev I believe who said that it was American trucks that moved the Red Army forward after Stalingrad. It was American supplies that allowed Soviet industry to focus production on only primary large scale combat vehicles. It was British resistance that allowed for various fronts and theatres away from just the east.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Inferior weapons? The US had by far the best technology that was put into the war. Naval and Air power the Americans and British far outclasses the Germans. German secret weapons held a lot of potential but were not decisive at all during the war, due to mainly Hitler's bungling. Even the German leads in armor technology were almost erased by the end of the war. The M26 Pershing was finally a tank that could match the German and Soviet armor. As for inferior soldiers ... Okinowa
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 Best technology you say? I am sorry but at a tank fan I must disagree and also the veterans that I talked to did say that the German tanks where just much better and more advanced.
It was the numbers that made them win, not the technology.
Okinowa was at a whole different battlefield and one that I am not too educated on so I cannot say much there.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning You also state "US have alsways loved that carpet bombing. Those inhumane cowards!" which seems like the lines of a 3rd grader with no perspective or understanding of combat and warfare during the Second World War. The US targeted industrial cities of the Reich just as the RAF and to smaller extent the Soviets. Troop centers and civilians were almost always caught in that firestorm whether in London or Breslau or Dresden.
lonewulf44 1 month ago 2
@lonewulf44 They strafed fleing civilians with the fighters and fire bombed cities where there was no military targets. Thats not warfare thats genocide and murder! I know alot about WW2 and have researched alot about that special period in time (10years) so do not come here and tell me that I am clueless.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Hmmm, like I mentioned mistakes were made and civilians sometimes pad the price for that. But that kind of warefare was started and definitely carried out primarily by the non western forces. I'll be nice and say I believe that you know a lot about WW2 ... if that is the case then you also have a very biased skewed version of events.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 Everyone is biased. And I do not like what the US and Soviets did in Europe.
And many times there was no mistakes but they simply shot civilians because of their hatred.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning You're not clueless, you're an asshole!
MrWhynot55 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Attempting to label the Western Allied forces fighting the Axis as 'inhumane' is irresponsible and in light of who they were fighting, what they DIDN'T do during the war, and the infinite good and positive things achieved, just wrong. Were the US and British forces perfect in all respects? Of course not ... but it's a pretty spotless sheet when you compare to the Soviet, German, or Japanese forces.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 There was nothing good about fighting the Germans. The evil powers won and that can clearly be seen in Europe these days.
German forces where the most honorable forces that fought during WW2.. Who where allied with the soviets again? yes the US and British and that says it all!
I will never forgive the allied forces for what they did to Europe. We now live in the hell they created.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning While the older generations of Eastern europe might believe that somewhat as the half century of communist enslavement could sway that opinion. Many German units fought honorable and many German men were drafted only being told that the country had to fight and was being attached from the air and strangled from the sea. Without any knowledge or voice from the outside they fought and worked to defend Germany.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 Eastern europe is not destroyed by the propagande that we have ben fed with here since the war. And they saw what the Soviets etc did and that memory is not something that you will easily overcome.
It is kind of ironic that those countries that was under Soviet rule is actually better of now than we that escaped that hell. Because here people cannot see the warning signs and are to naive to see that their freedom is taken away.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning That being said, you can't claim that 'german forces' were the most honorable as that ignores just about every fact to the contrary. You mentioned being allied to the soviets ... what moron put them together? Hitler in just one of his major moronic moves DoW on the US and put them together ... he destroyed Germany with his foreign policy. As for the Hell they created .... well the grass is not always greener ... or in this case hell is not always cooler on the other side of the hill
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 Well Hitler did not want any war. UK, Poland, US, and the Soviets did however and thats why the war started.
That the Soviets planned to invade Germany is something that is known these days. And the Germans also knew that it was either them or the Soviets to take the initiative.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Hitler invaded Poland knowing full well that a treaty had been signed with England and France. These two countries had no choice but declare war with Nazi Germany to respect that treaty!
MrWhynot55 1 month ago
@MrWhynot55 A treaty that was illegal and invalid.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning According to you these two nations declared war based on an invalid treaty? Invalid for who?
MrWhynot55 1 month ago
@MrWhynot55 Russia invaded poland first,nothing said about that,remember the intellegencia,why was nothing done about that,fucking hypocrites,,,,,.
MsSharon28 1 month ago
@MrWhynot55 Why not respect the treaty with Czechs?
TheRelger 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Who invaded Poland in order to trigger England and France to declare war on Germany to respect the treaty signed with Poland? Answer Germany! Who was the #1 asshole in Europe who singlehandedly made WW2 to take place? Hitler, that's who. I don't even want to go into the "final solution" chapter.
MrWhynot55 1 month ago
@lonewulf44 The US, British and Soviets had one thing in common. They fought for their masters (the bankers).
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning Hmmmm, British banks and the economy suffered and went bust or dependent because of the war. The entire British empire basically disolved and was hurried into oblivion for the war ... I don't think the British fought for their banks. The soviet union held central centres of banking power for the state but their control was ultimately always tied to the state. I don't think the state wanted nor fought a war to see 1/3 of the country burned in fire and shells.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@Gotlanning
And for the US ... the Japanese cowardly attached America and the fool corporal Declared War against them ... I'm not sure any 'master' pulled or pushed the US through the war. Not sure what book your reading but I think you need to find another ... one not blinded by some kind of odd ideology or political bias.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@Gotlanning I didn't see the article, but would be interested in reading it. Especially if it has a personal connection which is pretty need. Respect to your Grandfather for fighting. Have you been able to talk to him about his experiences? My Grandfather was in the artillery during the war and has just opened up recently about it. We can agree on the way the SS is covered in todays media and in history ... very skewed and lumped together as if the SS was just a club of Himmler clones.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
@Gotlanning as I thought, a descendant of a Nazi. Soon you will be denying the existence of death camps.
MrAmptech 1 month ago
@MrAmptech I am a decendant of a proud soldier who defended Europe against the communist plague. I do not deny the existence of camps and never will, concentration camps existed well before WW2 and they exist today, US , UK etc etc they all used and use them to some extent.
I am not stupid and do not believe in fairytales. I stay open minded and believe in the proof that I see instead of falling for the emotional aspect.
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning The Germans would have lost anyway. With or without their display of superiority in Japan! I dare you to call Americans cowards. Are you a sore German looser, humiliated in WW1 an WW2?? And still without a bonafide army air force etc...
MrWhynot55 1 month ago
@MrWhynot55 The Americans are cowards and are always playing wargames because their master tells them so.
I am not a bad looser, I just hate evil empires that makes people suffer and makes the world to a big chaotic hell!
Gotlanning 1 month ago
@Gotlanning cowards? say what you please about the american government...but implying american people in general are cowards well i guess i should be speaking german and you would of been gassed a long time ago
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@stuka52 Don't waste your beneath on gotlanning, he is dumb as a rock. Sweden was considered by most Allied nations to be the biggest war profiteers during WWII and they even had some that volunteered for service with Germany. "The US almost lost, if they did not use their disgusting weapons of mass destruction on civillian towns they would have lost" - this shows just how little he understands of history.
MrAmptech 1 month ago
@stuka52 The US had fought island by island dealing with strong resistance and suicide attacks. Japan was contacted after each atomic bomb had been dropped and they refused to surrender until Tokyo was being bombed. Most historians agree that the bombs killed fewer japanese than a ground assault would have.
MrAmptech 1 month ago
@MrAmptech The Japanese cities were also notified BEFORE the bombs were dropped. And historians argue over a lot of things .. but it's not just 'most historians' its every historian agree that the bombs saved overall lives ... that is fact not opinion. Even the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more than fat man and little boy. Millions of Japanese lives (not to mention the nation) (Civ and Combat) were saved as well as tens of thousands of US soldiers.
lonewulf44 1 month ago
Ahhh, thats why we lost so much armor...we were doing it wrong... you got to run over the other tank, not use the gun..
Mikethekiller7 3 months ago
Interesting video but I'm sceptical of the very good condition of these T-34-85's after 60 plus years wasting away outdoors plus I didn't notice any real battle damage either. Where are the high velocity armor piercing shot holes in the turrets or HEAT holes from Panzershrecks or Panzerfausts burning through the armor plate. I suspect this is a war memorial set up by the Russians at some point in the past to commemorate the battle here.
Dagger1955 3 months ago
@Dagger1955 Jeez, ya think? Pretty obvious that this is a preservation project. Why the fuck else would every single tank be sitting on a slab of concrete? That there just happened to be a slab at the very spot where every tank died? Derp, get a clue.
floydfreak63 2 months ago
@floydfreak63 Yeah, I do. You ought to have somebody teach you how to do that although I doubt it would do you any good. Crawl back under your rock son.
Dagger1955 2 months ago
Und? Was braucht ihr Mercedes? Ich fahre meine beiden gerne.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
Where exactly was this taken?
xjr13john 3 months ago
So what? Fact is fact.
Überhaupt: Warum schreibe ich Dir eigentlich auf Englisch? Ich bin Deutscher. Wenn Du nichts anderes zu tun hast als über die deutschen Soldaten zu lästern dann tue dies gefälligst in MEINER Sprache.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
"It´s their fault". Again - how old are you? Reading your comments I´m meanwhile convinced the German Wehrmacht did absolutely the right. And that´s YOUR fault. Simply looking at the losses during the war I also know who really won this war. Although Germany fought against the whole world, it took six years to defeat the armed forces - not the country. Today Germany is one of the economic most powerful countries in the world. I´m proud of Germany´s history and have every reason for that.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG are you proud of the maasacres, of auschwitz and so on... Luckily for germany, the cold war made a strong germany a necessity, so the marshall plan was devised:-) Otherwise you would still sit in your bombed down houses
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 Forget it - It doesn´t work any longer. Soldiers of every country committed war-crimes: USA: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, USSR: Katyn and Nemmersdorf, GB: Cologne and Dresden, France: O.K., just 6 weeks figthing, they had nothing to do with WW2. In our country war-criminals were charged after the war, in your country there are obviously no such individuals. You´re simply not willing to accept the truth, that´s it. Yes, I´m proud of Germany´s history and I abhor the so called "Nazis".
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG were they? Some were charged, others not. What about Filbinger or the the former chancellor Kiesinger and so on. It is lame to excuse criminal acts with your argument
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 Excuse? Why shoud I ? Do I know them personally? Am I responsibly for their crimes? Just accept, that there´s a new generation of Germans. A crime is a crime, no matter which soldier of which country committed it.
I´ll allways blame the socalled "Allies" for their war crimes as I despise the SS-Einsatzgruppen for their massacres. You just take the easy way out. Your choice. But I´ll allways admire the bravery of the German soldiers. My choice.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG bravery?? Stupidity fits it better. There wouldn´t have been Nemmersdorf(much exaggerated by nazi propaganda) without the countless nazi-massacres in Russia. The individual german soldiers might have been brave, but what did they cause by their bravery? Your way indeed is an easy way out
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 1945 General Mac Arthur considered the Russians a greater menace than the Nazis had ever been - complete barbarians - as exemplified by one commander who has issued orders that every woman, between the ages of 16 and 60, was to be raped twice by Russian soldiery as an example of the superiority of the Russian race. So you can tell me whatever you want: The German Soldiers fought for the right thing but for the wrong man. I´m very proud of them.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG mcarthur?? LOL he wanted to nuke china during the korean war, no matter that this would have started WWIII. And again the germans(not the nazis) considered slavs to be untermenschen. The Untermenschen paid them back in kind for every single rape, murder, robbery burned house and so on
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 And so they proofed that they are not better than the Nazis.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG indeed much better, because they took revenge from those who caused devastation:-) It was a reaction to Germany´s (not the nazis) action
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 Have your conviction, I have mine. Courage is no political manner. The German Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS were better trained and better motivated than all Allied Troops. That´s fact. You can tell whatever you want: Germans shot down the most planes, destroyed the most tanks and sunk the most ships. The names of German Army-Leaders are well known even today - for good reason. No country ever had the courage to fought the whole world and sustained six years. I´m proud of the German Army.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG they sustained six years only because grear britain and France did nothong to stop them in time.
Chamberlain´s appeasement did the job. As for the bravery of the german soldiers what did they achieve by it? The total destruction of germany, the best and brightest germas dead on the battle-fields and so on
livadi9 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG better so say nothing and carry on selling high end cars.
iglwy 3 months ago
@iglwy Warum sollte das besser sein?
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG wegen Ihre Meinung macht die Export Geschaeft kaput!
iglwy 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG can not forget the germans also, had better weapons like the mg 42 .the type 21 uboot.tiger tanks .the first combat jet the me 262 .I am also proud of the luffwaffen .and the kreigsmarine .
troyweeseful 3 months ago
EVERYONE SHUT UP AND STOP BEING LITTLE KIDS
jack29292 3 months ago
looks liek a torrest trap tbh!! if the hatch was closed when the tank is hit it will pull basicly anything inside the tank out the exit hole and make a right mess...plus i dout she any places were the shells wud of hit the tanks themselfs or proof of fire........
anids1988 4 months ago
The Tiger and King Tiger kicked all the allies tanks ass but there were'nt enough of them and they were a nightmare if they had any mechanical failures whereas the allies tanks were easy to make and their crews were expendable. The T34 was easily the best allied tank of WW2 but everyone quickly adopted its revolutionary sloping armour but the easily best tank of WW2 was the Panther which had it all, great gun, great sloping armour and best of all a very low profile. RESPECT to ALL the veterans.
Johnny69M 4 months ago
There were not that many tigers, nearly 2000 made for all fronts. How many T34's - over 50,000 and counting.
FioredieLiberi 4 months ago
to clarify... i can see some tanks have just been left there but have others been placed there?
trfcfan1984 4 months ago
10 shermans on 1 tiger
Pitchplus8 4 months ago
@Pitchplus8 umm dont u mean t34's?
2012datefordiary 4 months ago
@2012datefordiary t34 too ? :P i thought t34 ynd shermans are nearly the same ?
Pitchplus8 4 months ago
@Pitchplus8 umm well im not mr expert, but the t34 had slanted armour which was an innervation with tank design as well as a better main gun and was introduced in 1940 by the ussr and the Sherman had more basic armour, a slightly worse gun and was introduced by the usa in 1942 :)
2012datefordiary 4 months ago
@2012datefordiary but the tiger was the nightmare of all tank commanders who controlled the t34 and shermans.
Pitchplus8 4 months ago
@Pitchplus8 yep pretty much feared by all, even the soviet is2 commanders feared the tigers
2012datefordiary 4 months ago
cool place to make a movie props are there for you to put special efects in to the tanks
madscotsman65 4 months ago
is this not the memorial to the battle for Kursk ?
durk1967 4 months ago
I want one!
USGiorgi 5 months ago
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The tourists seem to be speaking Polish or Russian. The tanks may have nice paint jobs outside, but the insides look as if they were hit and abandoned in WW2. Lot of tanks destroyed on the eastern front.
pt45g46 5 months ago
The tourists seem to be speaking Polish or Russian. The tanks may have nice paint jobs outside, but the insides look as if they were hit and abandoned in WW2. Lot of tanks destroyed on the eastern front.
pt45g46 5 months ago
If only the turret was damaged, then the hull would most certainly have been transported to a repair facility, either under it's own power or towed, salvaged/repaired and returned to service. In the event that rehab and/or repair were adjudged economically unfeasible, the asset's useable parts would have been scavanged for utilization elsewhere. The asset would certainly not have been left to rust in situ.
CaesarInVa 5 months ago
Generally speaking, the military (including those of communist states) will try to salvage and rehab damaged assets, particularly those as expensive as armor and especially so when they enjoy post-battle possession of the field, as was the case here. Usually, the only assets that remain in situ are those that are impaired or damaged beyond economic repair/salvage and as I said, none of those tanks look like they sustained damage to the extent that they were beyond salvage.
CaesarInVa 5 months ago
@averbakh01 I agree that not every hit results in a "brew-up" or damage sufficiently extensive to justify abandonment; nevertheless, I would expect to see a few hulks manifesting the symptoms of such an event. From what I observed, not a single tank depicted in the video exhibited damage sufficiently debilitating to justify the asset's abandonment in situ.
CaesarInVa 5 months ago
And as we all know...- the Tigers were the targets. Blown to pieces by a better tank and better tactics.
And for the video, almost worthless because of lousy camerawork.
ygberg 5 months ago
главное не пёрните в танке, славяне!
arzy2008 5 months ago
Those "wrecked" T34 are in pretty good condition..... makes me suspect that those "wrecked" T34s were way likely obselete T34s that were placed there for effect as part of the memorial.
lukebccb 5 months ago
@lukebccb I think you are right. Usually, when a tank is hit, it catches fire and if it catches fire, the main-gun's ammo usually explodes and that usually leads to the turret being blown off and the rest of the tank being reduced to a burned-out hulk. I didn't see a single example of that kind of destruction on the video, which inclines me to agree with you.
CaesarInVa 5 months ago
@lukebccb Quite true - the paintwork is far too good for them to be just abandoned.
freebeerfordworkers 5 months ago
@prometheus 19853---nice to believe in fairy tales isn't it. Even Guderian conceded that the T-34 was a fairly decent tank and would disagree with your10:1 ratio. More like 2:1 which was enough to win the war!
chuckbuckbobuck 6 months ago
@chuckbuckbobuck ah, yes, the T-34.... little pest of a tank, but a damn good idea, slanting the armor. They were pretty under-gunned for my tastes, but it still got the job done, i apllaud the designer on that one! But the E series tanks were capable of the same production rate, for a considerably more impressive product, id like to see a T-34 attack a super-high velocity 105mm equipped tank that has 203mm frontal armor and 120mm on sides and back. Oh, and its armor is sloped too.
Prometheus19853 6 months ago
are you allowed to walk up where the tanks are sitting in the fields ?
georgiabigfoot 6 months ago
German tanks were the best of the war, Russian and American die-hards can sya what they want. The ONLY reason Germany lost was the low production rate of their tanks, but each tank was worth 4~5 comparable American tanks and 10 comparable Russian tanks (i say 10 cause the Russian tanks were shit)
Prometheus19853 6 months ago
@Prometheus19853 That's irrelevant. You can't win a prolonged world war by making the most complicated piece of machinery. The soviets and americans realized this. Quantity has a quality all its own....
damiion666 6 months ago
@Prometheus19853: SUBhuman VERMIN SCUM hitler should've thought about that before IT *INVADED* Russia. And don't give me YOUR WHINING SNIVELLING "oh but Stalin was gonna invade first" crap...... SUBhuman VERMIN SCUM hitler *INVADED* Russia and that's how it's recorded in history.
lukebccb 5 months ago
@lukebccb Ok, this seems to be a personal thing now..... I am merely stating that the Entwicklung series tanks could have won the war for Germany, im not saying Hitler wasnt completely batshit insane, im just saying that the soldiers that fought and died for his crusade would have benefited from the presence of the E-10 through E-100 tanks on the battlefield.... dont take it personally, and i know how shit went down.
Prometheus19853 5 months ago
@Prometheus19853 HE WASNT INSANE, HE KNEW THE ENEMY WAS ZION-BOLSHEVEK-ASIATIC-BARBARIA... THE ASIATIC MONGOL HORDES FROM BEYOND THE URAL WALL
graciemaemarie11 5 months ago
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history buff paradise
TheDeathmerc 6 months ago
I live in London , I could do with one of these to go down the Bank on bad days.
Wad12br 6 months ago
Look to be Post War T-34/85's note the twin exhaust vents on turret roofs. I suspect a Memorial done with Obsolete tanks at a later date.
CabinCruzer25 6 months ago
@CabinCruzer25 Well, your not correct about any of it. The ventilators were added to the T34-/85 in 1942 and it was the T-34/85 1943 Model along with the commanders cupola in the three man turret, not post war. Those are very much war era turrets, very much war era tanks. By the way the copula was even made on some later productions of the T-34/76 1942 models as well.
strashniyvolk 6 months ago
later german tanks were better,but russians produced far more and used them more offensively
poumista 6 months ago
@poumista later in the war the Germans were producing oversized underpowered semi mobile pillboxes that
they could not keep supplied with fuel or lubricants or even properly trained crews. arguably the ONLY good
tank that was made by the Germans after 1940 was the Panther and there were never enough of them...the Russians had just introduced the T54 tank before the end of the war and they could have been in full production by early 1946
stevem88 6 months ago
@stevem88 they hadnt intruduced what we know as the t54 today... it was far from what today still drives in africa . it had shot traps , a gun that was weaker than the german 88 and wasnt as good armoured was the "newer models"!
they had STARTED mass production of the t44 but this too had many problems with reliability...
Nebukadnezarthe2nd 6 months ago
Wenn da keine abgeschossenen Deutschen Panzer stehen,dann heißt das die Wehrmacht hat diesen Kampf gewonnen.Die abgeschossenen Deutschen Panzer
werden in die Instandsetzung gebracht.Würden da Deutsche Panzer stehen hätten
die Sowiejets gewonnen.
Standarte2010 7 months ago
Just Tiger-targets. Nothing else...
Kal50BMG 7 months ago 21
@Kal50BMG yes but...a group of faster t-34,against 1 Tiger,send him to hell,remember the last big batlle tanks KURSK.!!
tanitoastro 6 months ago
@Kal50BMG hmmmm...i wonder just how many Tigers are left in the world, especially Tigers in running order
the NAZIs lost the war...not by a narrow margin...its really kind of sad that those
pathetic criminals didnt hang on a few months longer so that Berlin could have been turned to radioactive rubble
say what you like about a Master Race...we know for sure its NOT the Germans
nothing more pathetic than a NAZI apologist
stevem88 6 months ago
@Kal50BMG Tiger didn't come all the way until 1943....
Germans thought that they would encounter a bunch of T26's and T28s when they crossed the border...
In the mean time, the German tanks ran from the newly revealed KV and T34 tanks which they could not stand up against.
Hitler was enraged, and demanded a tank that could challenge both of those tanks.
And so, the PzVI Tiger was born....
SVB222 6 months ago
@SVB222 at least yes, but I think the Panther I (Sd.Kfz. 171) was the first try to copy the T34 - later not more than 950 Tiger one have been entered the Eastern Front at all (German tank production of all types in WW2 was about 50.000 panzers without the Tigers) ... hey, but this video is showing a great place to visit. It seems that all the tanks are restorated to the conditions they were found after the battle, cleaned and painted ... and you are allowed to explore the wrecks, isn´t it?
il2gambit 6 months ago
@Kal50BMG what do you mean T-34 soviet tanks pummelled Tiger 1 tanks!!
pranker121 4 months ago
@pranker121 Sure. Like the Shermans did. LOL!!! You made my day!
Kal50BMG 4 months ago
@Kal50BMG they carried the red army to berlin:-)
livadi9 4 months ago
@livadi9 ...and brought unfreedom and rapists there...
Kal50BMG 4 months ago
@Kal50BMG o yes the nazis fought for freedom and democracy:-)
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 not more than the Russians did. These bastards weren´t better than the SS-Einsatzgruppen. A bunch of murderers - nothing else.
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG but my dear one the germans began the war, so they reaped what they sowed. The Soviets paid them back in kind and justly so.
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 What kind of excuse is that? The other one began. Would you tell this raped girls and women?How old are you? And by the way: The GERMANS began nothing - it was just the sick idea of Hitler to invade Russia. Personally I´m convinced Stalin planed to invade Germany just a few weeks later. But however: I´m proud of the military success of the german army and give a shit who won this war. And no, I´m not a "nazi".
Kal50BMG 3 months ago
@Kal50BMG the germans followed him like sheep to the slaughter-house so it is their fault. I would tell this to german women who went through this, because they all gave shit to what happened in russia, poland, greece and in the concentration camps. And they all knew what happened(lieber gott mach mich stumm, dass ich nicht nach Dachau komm) what miltiary success? a destroyed impotent europe? decades of cold war?
livadi9 3 months ago
@livadi9 what have u foughht for? certainly not those
iloveafg123 3 months ago
@iloveafg123 first of all i fight fpr proper orthography:-)
livadi9 3 months ago
all those t-34's would of been striped down they would have no tracks turrets mg's and the engine parts would of been gone all the paint would of gone so those tanks are not recks they are an memoral or some kind of dioramma
fazsum41 7 months ago
those t-34 all look like they have just rolled out of the factory and if they were reckeges then they would of been takon away or salviged also those tanks older then my mom and shes 51 so all those t-34's would of rusted all over
fazsum41 7 months ago
umm...those don't look much like wrecks...no sign of being burned out or explosion.
More than likely left as a monument to the battle
stryker214 7 months ago
@stryker214 Also tanks that were knocked out but repairable would not have been left like that right after battle, they'd be salvaged, repaired and sent back to kill jerry. I really think that its some kind of monument site...
stryker214 7 months ago
the Battle of the Dukla Pass
and it looks like all tanks almost just has stopped for break
davvvvo 7 months ago
some of the russian tanks were stronger then the gremans #fact.
RobbieDStatus 8 months ago
the tank on the memorial, that isn't just any old T-34, thats a T-34-85, with a gun that could hole most German tanks, and a bigger turret.
kyle9524 8 months ago
Nice. But you needed a few closeups of the chick. She seems pretty hot from the brief views we get.
dhbiza 9 months ago
they're mustn't be much acidic rain in that area. Tanks look to be in a fair condition.
darkwonder80 9 months ago
@darkwonder80 its a russian tank it can survive anything
riflelord2 9 months ago
@riflelord2 T-34 is just metal
darkwonder80 8 months ago
They seem to be be in too good shape for 60+ years exposure to be WWII relics, however this is a amazing memorial nonetheless. Really great concept
MrCrackerJack420 9 months ago
@MrCrackerJack420 Or they could be maintained on a regular basis.
cabbievonbump 8 months ago
GDYBY NIE WASZE POPIERDOLONE KOMENTARZE I ODZYWKI W TYM FILMIE TO DALBYM PLUSA, KRETYNI
DrifterThai 9 months ago
It is a memorial, the German tank is late model PzKw IV, probably an Aus J or H (note the long 75mm gun and the armor skirts) and the T-34 is a later 85mm model with the three man turret.
FlaggerX 10 months ago
@FlaggerX
It is PzKw III Ausf. D wth cannon 5cm KwK 38L/42 or 5cm Kwk 39L/60
mmarcio89 9 months ago
@FlaggerX It is PzKw III with cannon 7,5 cm KwK 37L/24
mmarcio89 9 months ago
I'd guess the tanks did'nt take part in any WWII action rather being T-34s that belonged to former Czechslovakian Army until the 80's. The tanks would be in worse condition in the open for 60 yrs. Anyway, it's a wonderful memorial which really gives a feel of reality. Congratulations.
mengo1981 10 months ago
typical russians... i think its not allowed to climb into the tanks..
TheRedSkin2009 10 months ago
@TheRedSkin2009 they are polacks, not russians...
Ullbritt 8 months ago
Only in there they would have a field full of tanks.
MrSatchboogie33 11 months ago
This is not KURSK! Its area in north-east Slovakia. Between town Svidnik and Dukla Pass. Its something like slideshow for tourists, there is lot of T-34, and other tanks like IS-2, panzer IV or other kind of vehicles like halftracks, pieces of artillery. There is also one nice museum in town of Svidnik with tanks too.
Borovickar 11 months ago
Hahah! "Someone's stuck chewing gum on the Red Star". I guess that just shows what the Poles thought of Communism.
skaszy1 11 months ago
@skaszy1 Nice pick up..
hogiesanKenobi 7 months ago
those are not wrecks dude bud nice vid ;)
croatian1997 1 year ago
ye
Samiboy656 11 months ago
This place is almost like a park of some sort. And a memorial I guess. "Lest we forget', isn't that the standard mantra of any war? But man, what a park. Very impressive looking with all those tanks on the hillside. Really gives you a feel for what it looked like back then. Good stuff.
kolbpilot 1 year ago 15
That's cool that you can climb all over & in the tank. That would never be allowed here any more. Used to be like that, but not now.
kolbpilot 1 year ago