@Pitonto Instead of trying to take modern players and hypothetically making them have the same stats as one of the earlier pros, becker, edberg, bjorg... Why not try to say this.. Would the earlier players of the open era, had they been raised and thought to play the "modern" tennis, would they be as successful? I don't think so. It's incredibly naive to think that out of the top 500 players in the world, that none of them are as good, if not better than any of the early legends..
Here we go with "who can hit it the hardest" Gonzo can hit the hardest forehand but how many unforced errors during a match? Roddick can hit 150mph but can he hold serve like Sampras? Then this knob named HBNplague says Birdbitch, Novak who?, Tsonga tribe, and Mad Marat had bigger backhands than anyone during the 90's. Bigger than Kafelnikov? Enqvist? Agassi?Did they really clock forehand & Backhands in the 1990's? Why is that such a big deal? 115 down the line is an ace! Angles?
At the French Open I believe Gonzalez hit a forehand a good 120 mph on a return of serve against Andy Murray. I'm not sure what the record was but it was up there in the high 110's to low 120's.
At first i am sure that you don't know anything about professional tennis from the 90'. If you would know something you would not say "Still, for the 90's this is ridiculous pace" because there is no much difference in the pace of the shots. The biggest difference is in footwork and in the consistency of high quality rallies from the baseline. The courts have slowed down and because of that baseline game has more developed and serve and volleying is not effective as is was...
I don't think anybody from the 90's era hits forehands as hard as Fernando Gonzalez or Roger Federer. Both have hit forehands at 100 mph. I don't think anybody from the 90's era hits serves as hard as Andy Roddick.
Thomas Berdych, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Novak Djokovic, and most of all Marat Safin (whose greatest years came starting with his win in the 2000 US Open) all hit backhands harder than any player from the 90's, perhaps besides Agassi.
u probably never watched courier, or sampras, or ivanesivic. as for serves roddick has the fastest at 155mph but rusedski and phillipousis who played in 90s had serves recorded in the high 140 mph range, i think rusedski had the previous record at 149 mph
You really don't know much about tennis if you think players in the 90's did not hit the ball hard. Becker, Sampras, Agassi, Courier, Rios, Kafelnikov and many others could crush the ball. More importantly, tennis is not about who can hit the ball the hardest, otherwise Gonzo and Roddick would have a lot of grand slams.
Certainly they served just as hard in the '90's as they do two decades later. Groundstrokes, though, have become a good bit harder if i'm not mistaken. Safin is my chief example, but others exist. Del Potro, as tvvideos mentioned, also pounds the ball. I cannot recall Pete Sampras hitting a 100 mph forehand, but in today's game it happens fairly often.
It's not necessarily pure power which is devastating, it's the controlled fury which is frightening. I've seen Federer winding up 85 mph forehands landing in the service box and kick out wide a couple of time; I have seen him paint the lines at 95-100 mph so often; I saw Nadal making those balls kicks and drift so far out wide you'd need to have a ticket in the third row to play the ball back...
Del Potro, Gonzalez, Söderling now... big hitters and that resume their skill.
Well I'd give you that probably both Soderling and Blake have an average pace considerably higher than Monfils, he is the antithesis of an aggressive player. Idk Blake's was forehand on young was fairly close to the net and was a pretty easy put away, he pretty much just bitch slapped it....i was impressed but not overly so....there used to be a vid with federer called "Forehand Destruction" or something against Djokovic 08 aust. Up and the net and pretty hard too.
Ah, of course it is. I don't know how my thoughts went as I completely forgot about fans being able to travel, even though Sthlm Open also has a green court. Anyway, my bad.
An impressive display of offense and defense from Larsson and Hewitt.
Indeed it is the AO, but the chants you hear at the end are from the swedish fans. Not "aussie", not "oy"; but "ojojoj". You could translate it to something like "wowowow". =)
Only Hewitt could even stay in a point like that. Then again, if it was Andre Agassi smacking the ball to the corners, I doubt Larsson would have ever had a chance to take those cracks.
Magnus Larsson was a powerful and impressive player who could beat anybody on a good day, he beat Sampras couple of times and his forehand was his strongest weapon.
He lost this match against Hewitt in 5 sets and already being over 30 years old.
one is hewitt but who is the other guy? i cant recognize?
dinamozagreb1987 1 year ago
@dinamozagreb1987
The other guy is Magnus Larsson.
TheTennisMan11 1 year ago
This could work well against Nadal, but he'd have to do it for 3 hours at least.
89Pleasek 1 year ago
Today tennis level in inferior to 90's and 80's.
Today only can hit and run, and they hit because of the raquets.
They even couldn't play against Lendl, McEnrore, Edberg o Becker with their raquets.
Pitonto 2 years ago
@Pitonto Instead of trying to take modern players and hypothetically making them have the same stats as one of the earlier pros, becker, edberg, bjorg... Why not try to say this.. Would the earlier players of the open era, had they been raised and thought to play the "modern" tennis, would they be as successful? I don't think so. It's incredibly naive to think that out of the top 500 players in the world, that none of them are as good, if not better than any of the early legends..
CatNap1080 1 year ago
I saw Agassi hit forehands in 1988 and 1989 us opens and they were as fast as todays.
xfimpg 2 years ago
Here we go with "who can hit it the hardest" Gonzo can hit the hardest forehand but how many unforced errors during a match? Roddick can hit 150mph but can he hold serve like Sampras? Then this knob named HBNplague says Birdbitch, Novak who?, Tsonga tribe, and Mad Marat had bigger backhands than anyone during the 90's. Bigger than Kafelnikov? Enqvist? Agassi?Did they really clock forehand & Backhands in the 1990's? Why is that such a big deal? 115 down the line is an ace! Angles?
rmrooster01 2 years ago
monfils can hit bigger than gonzo
tvvideos365 2 years ago
dam, that guy straight bitchslapped all those balls
mmeyer1 2 years ago
At the French Open I believe Gonzalez hit a forehand a good 120 mph on a return of serve against Andy Murray. I'm not sure what the record was but it was up there in the high 110's to low 120's.
Still, for the 90's this is ridiculous pace.
HBNplague 2 years ago
This isn't 90's idiot, this is at the 2003 Australian Open.
SoooBlue 2 years ago
At first i am sure that you don't know anything about professional tennis from the 90'. If you would know something you would not say "Still, for the 90's this is ridiculous pace" because there is no much difference in the pace of the shots. The biggest difference is in footwork and in the consistency of high quality rallies from the baseline. The courts have slowed down and because of that baseline game has more developed and serve and volleying is not effective as is was...
andydufresne87 2 years ago 2
I don't think anybody from the 90's era hits forehands as hard as Fernando Gonzalez or Roger Federer. Both have hit forehands at 100 mph. I don't think anybody from the 90's era hits serves as hard as Andy Roddick.
Thomas Berdych, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Novak Djokovic, and most of all Marat Safin (whose greatest years came starting with his win in the 2000 US Open) all hit backhands harder than any player from the 90's, perhaps besides Agassi.
HBNplague 2 years ago
u probably never watched courier, or sampras, or ivanesivic. as for serves roddick has the fastest at 155mph but rusedski and phillipousis who played in 90s had serves recorded in the high 140 mph range, i think rusedski had the previous record at 149 mph
nizzam1 2 years ago
murray has hit his harder thn those players apart frm probly safin
tvvideos365 2 years ago
You really don't know much about tennis if you think players in the 90's did not hit the ball hard. Becker, Sampras, Agassi, Courier, Rios, Kafelnikov and many others could crush the ball. More importantly, tennis is not about who can hit the ball the hardest, otherwise Gonzo and Roddick would have a lot of grand slams.
TheTopspin77 2 years ago 2
Certainly they served just as hard in the '90's as they do two decades later. Groundstrokes, though, have become a good bit harder if i'm not mistaken. Safin is my chief example, but others exist. Del Potro, as tvvideos mentioned, also pounds the ball. I cannot recall Pete Sampras hitting a 100 mph forehand, but in today's game it happens fairly often.
HBNplague 2 years ago
@HBNplague
It's not necessarily pure power which is devastating, it's the controlled fury which is frightening. I've seen Federer winding up 85 mph forehands landing in the service box and kick out wide a couple of time; I have seen him paint the lines at 95-100 mph so often; I saw Nadal making those balls kicks and drift so far out wide you'd need to have a ticket in the third row to play the ball back...
Del Potro, Gonzalez, Söderling now... big hitters and that resume their skill.
GueorguiJoukov 1 year ago
gonzalez didnt hit a 120mph return
tvvideos365 2 years ago
Search Gael force forehand, you'lll get forehands much bigger than this
365to173repubsPWNED 2 years ago
Monfils holds the world record for the fastest forehand from behind the baseline. 118MPH
But, I believe the biggest forehand I had ever seen was from James Blake vs. Donald Young in the 2008 US Open.
watch?v=lMjZS-Rvhnc&feature=channel_page
FinalFan0 2 years ago
i've seen both on youtube....monfils' is much much bigger
365to173repubsPWNED 2 years ago
Well yeah Monfils was behind the baseline with it andhe had a much better follow through, but you gotta admit that Blake can hit them just as hard...
I'd also put Soderling up there as a more consistent big hitter.
FinalFan0 2 years ago
Well I'd give you that probably both Soderling and Blake have an average pace considerably higher than Monfils, he is the antithesis of an aggressive player. Idk Blake's was forehand on young was fairly close to the net and was a pretty easy put away, he pretty much just bitch slapped it....i was impressed but not overly so....there used to be a vid with federer called "Forehand Destruction" or something against Djokovic 08 aust. Up and the net and pretty hard too.
365to173repubsPWNED 2 years ago
del potro hits huge forehands how can you keep him out he hit one down the line agaisnt fed on clay at the french at 109mph
tvvideos365 2 years ago
interesting clip... but i think gonzalez can hit them harder
federerownsall111 3 years ago
That was at the australian open in 2003. magnus larsson against hewitt. Larsson was a powerful player no doubt about it.
andydufresne87 3 years ago
My god, one of the flattest forehand strokes ive seen in my life!! Such a monster forehand!!
Prickle 3 years ago
He looked like a robot hitting those forehands.
quest8899 3 years ago 3
it is if i attach all those search terms.
badabingbangboom 3 years ago
i like it when hewitt applaudes at the end..
annaarora 3 years ago
That guy is big enough to be a football player! He's definitely not built like a tennis player.
riessypiecy 3 years ago 2
kinda like how john isner is.
iNikkoJohn 3 years ago
what grip is that?
eggrolleggroll 3 years ago
has to be eastern, no? There's barely any torso rotation, all arm
eggrolleggroll 3 years ago
ya it looks pretty close to eastern to me
jetsmashmoney 3 years ago
Magnus Larsson vs Hewitt?
AO what year?
Long time since Magnus was active.
SgtAponeSWE 3 years ago
aren't you confusing with magnus norman???
popeye135 3 years ago
OOLLOLOOLLOLOLOLO!LO!!!!!! anyone know his grip?
dvsk89 3 years ago
That's just some good ol' hit the crap out of the ball tennis
iamdre17 3 years ago 5
wonderful
mic270469 3 years ago
FAIL.
babicz 3 years ago
That must be from Stockholm Open, with the crowd chanting "Ojojoj" at the end. ^_^
Nidhogg86 3 years ago
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Nidhogg86 3 years ago
Come on, its the Australian Open, are you blind?
IricForset 3 years ago 2
Ah, of course it is. I don't know how my thoughts went as I completely forgot about fans being able to travel, even though Sthlm Open also has a green court. Anyway, my bad.
An impressive display of offense and defense from Larsson and Hewitt.
Nidhogg86 3 years ago
there's an australian open sign...
johnster06 3 years ago
Australian open cause look at the courts and they are chanting aussie aussie aussie
johnster06 3 years ago
Indeed it is the AO, but the chants you hear at the end are from the swedish fans. Not "aussie", not "oy"; but "ojojoj". You could translate it to something like "wowowow". =)
Nidhogg86 3 years ago
I don't understand your tags. Clearly you're looking for attention. But good video.
elecbass100 4 years ago 9
I want people to see the video obviously...retard.
badabingbangboom 3 years ago
Only Hewitt could even stay in a point like that. Then again, if it was Andre Agassi smacking the ball to the corners, I doubt Larsson would have ever had a chance to take those cracks.
superman11978 4 years ago
awesome, lol
paulogomescoelho 4 years ago 2
Ugly, artless tennis.
chapaev36 4 years ago
Sure, current tennis is more "colorful":-))) (with everyone staying back)
cammpinno 4 years ago
no comments, today there's only one player, players don't play tennis since 2003, today is anything but tennis
Darkdroom 4 years ago
You know nothing.
xedvux 4 years ago
wow those were rockets
angelwebeza 4 years ago 2
Magnus Larsson was a powerful and impressive player who could beat anybody on a good day, he beat Sampras couple of times and his forehand was his strongest weapon.
He lost this match against Hewitt in 5 sets and already being over 30 years old.
monceau27 4 years ago
the fact that hewitt hung in that point for as long as he did was outrageous. great defense by him, better offense by larsson
musicgamer10 4 years ago