WTC Controlled Demolition Flashes (Part Two)

[dobberdoss]

They strategically weakened the structure hoping the smoke and aircraft were enough of a distraction from the flashes, explosions, booms, and YOU KNOW WHAT? It almost work! but gradually people around the globe are waking up to the reality of that day. That being the US government set this up, participated in it, played it for all it was worth and continue to do so until the "global police state is in place and 'fully operational'.

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[muzicmaker2001]

"Somewhere around the middle, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode ... With each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see."- NYFD Captain Karin Deshore

[DeadBeatzBrand]

those are obviosly windows getting pushed or blown out...U can see it fall

[muzicmaker2001]

@DeadBeatzBrand

That's alot of windows being pushed or blown out all throughout the building

watch?v=LQYFABSlCQ4

[muzicmaker2001]

@DeadBeatzBrand

Don't forget the witnesses..

"When I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, I saw low-level flashes. I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw."- NYFD Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory

[Headshothorror4488]

Many Experts agree it was a demo from Engineers,architects , physicists,scientists, Firemen , Pilots, cia agents ect ect.... And show science evidence for it and laws of physics. Knowing that why even reply to uneducated children on U Tube who troll these videos 24/7 when they think its all bullshit anyway,that proves there losers plus there Non Experts/uneducated. Wouldnt listen to machanic on how to do heart surgery so just ignore the Non expert trolls

[jtt4071981]

I feel sorry for those who can't see the Truth. Their poor, simple, devolved brains can't comprehend what is right before their eyes...it must suck to be so naive.

[roxxphatcox]

I wouldnt expect much sound from a camera located 5 miles away.

[74pbg]

sorry , that is a broken window!

[seeknthetruth]

@74pbg

funny

[The4LA2Baker0]

missed one at (0:44) just above main entry point towards the right.

[diskpanic]

Could it be that the flash we see is from the reflection of the sun on the window pane as it bursts out? Why do you cut the video IMMEDIATELY after the flash, muzicmaker2001? Could it be that we'd see someone standing there holding a chair, waving for help and getting some clean air?

Your journalistic dishonesty is typical of the Loose Change Truther. So, how much is Avery paying you, anyhow?

[muzicmaker2001]

I don't know what to say to that. Randomly bursting windows and the sun's reflection? As I mentioned before, look at the end of the clip. These are demo flashes hundreds of feet below the fires. They are not related to the fires.

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

LOL Uh, no. I see nothing. You Truthers see what you want to see. Here's a little secret. That's what drove all of the sane people out of your movement. Instead of focusing on FACTS, you guys started making up things. You had pew pew LASERs destroying the buildings. You had "silent" bombs. You had hologram planes. In short, you guys went off the deep end, and anyone that wasn't wearing a tinfoil hat left your little nutbar parade and took any credibility you nuts had with them.

[muzicmaker2001]

Don't worry. Help is on it's way. Put on your glasses for this.

watch?v=Jqu_-yHqums

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

LMAO! You douchebag. So, you link me to a video where the Truther douchebag that made it COVERS UP THE SOUND WITH MUSIC. See, you douchebags will do ANYTHING to perpetuate your mythology.

Allow me to turn down the music and turn up the sound for you idiots. Pull the wax out of your ears, douchebag.

watch?v=5FkYR84E7uQ

watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ

THAT is what demolition charges sound like.

Class dismissed.

[muzicmaker2001]

Open. I thought we were talking about demolition flashes? Not sound? My opinion: The demo explosions were spread over time to avoid looking like a normal dem job. The thickest steel was located at the base of the Towers and had to be weakened before collapse also. This is why we see a huge smoke plume rising from the base before either Tower collapsed.

watch?v=HBaqG4xtyl0

watch?v=2E-tieJFVGY

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

Confirmation Bias. Google it.

See, you completely dismiss the sound issue, and you claim to be a music maker. LMAO!

Okay, dude. Explain to me how explosions can be silent.

[muzicmaker2001]

You again avoided an explanation for the flashes all throughout the building?Osama taken pictures? There was sound in the two videos I just posted, right?

"It was like a professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear 'Pop, pop, pop'."- NYC Paramedic Daniel Rivera

"It seemed like on television when they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."- NYFD Firefighter Richard Banaciski

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

The guy at the beginning of the video is hilarious! LOL "How does it do that... with inertia and all?" LMAO. It's a word he heard somewhere that sounded scientific, and it came out in an interview where he's trying to sound intelligent. The word he was looking for was "momentum". The problem with this, of course, is the very word he used, inertia. But, oh, well. CONT...

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

Here is the EXACT same video you just sent me, except that it is the ORIGINAL video and prefaced with comments from the ACTUAL CAMERAMAN.

watch?v=jir7yWTroN8

You douchebags will do anything to try to prove your "Truth", including present FRAUDULENT "evidence". LMAO. You guys are so pathetic. Have you never seen that video by RKOwens? No, of course you wouldn't have. You are a Loose Changer. The last thing you will ever do is doubt your "evidence".

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

Could it be that they were describing the collapse? How big of a douchebag are you? How much does Avery pay you?

[diskpanic]

@muzicmaker2001

And, finally I'm going to paraphrase you: "The explosions occur nowhere near the fire zone." Isn't that funny? This would also mean that they explode nowhere near the point of initial collapse, either. So, why, exactly, would "explosions" that occur "nowhere near the collapse point" have anything to do with the collapse?

LOL. You're a Loose Change Truther, so this is futile. If it doesn't come from the Truther Glory Hole, you don't believe it. You're too far gone to save.

[seeknthetruth]

Hello again Mr shill. I found you. let me help. the explosions (flashes) all throughout the building were set up to take out parts of the building over the time period after impact and collapse. like a normal demo job but spread out or uhhhh, controlled...you were lied to. it's time to deal with it. hey, do shills get a 401K?

[diskpanic]

@seeknthetruth

Oh noes! You founds me! I'm trembling in my boots! What ever shall I do? I'm panicking, really. An inferior, uneducated nutjob found me on the internetz! Hold on, dude, let me go outside and round around my house a few times with my hands in the air screaming, be right back!

Okay, I'm done now. Whew, that was good exercise!

Okay, so, let's get back to the discussion you ran away from earlier. Please explain how 2 inches of concrete stops a catastrophic collapse, Truther?

[seeknthetruth]

how about you explain the flashes first?

[Juniversal]

The flashes are windows bursting out of their frames.

[seeknthetruth]

not logical. why would windows spontaneously burst many hundreds of feet (floors) below the fire and impact? obviously, they wouldn't...

[Juniversal]

That's the problem. There were no windows being burst out that far below the impact zone.

What you're seeing is the refraction of the sun's light on a window that burst around the impact zone that can't be seen until it hit the camera's lens at JUST the right angle (by that time it had floated downward well beyond the impact zone).

[seeknthetruth]

Search on YT, "FLASHES FROM WTC !!! PROOF POSITIVE !!!" for the flashes (aka demo charges) going off many hundreds of feet below the impact zone. what's yur new explanation?

[Juniversal]

I see no need to revise my explanation and still fail to see "charges hundreds of feet below the impact zone".

[seeknthetruth]

then you are blind...or a shill?

[Daniel092004]

@seeknthetruth They don't have to. A large falling piece of glass would also do that.

[herbys68]

@seeknthetruth Obviously you are an expert in demolition, fire and explosions - NOT. If you don't know squat about the subject, what do you think makes you qualified to make such strong statements?

Glass shatters when it is compressed or stretched. When the steel and concrete columns that make up the exterior of the building begin to irregularly stretch under heat they will cause windows to shatter. It happens sometimes in buildings that are not on fire due to a gigantic explosion. Go figure.

[muzicmaker2001]

@herbys68

Is this glass also all throughtout the building and unrelated to the fires? Really?

watch?v=LQYFABSlCQ4

[Headshothorror4488]

@herbys68 Are u a expert ? A engineer,architect,physicist,s­cientist,firemen ? Because thousands of all experts i just named disagree with u and show science/evidence unlike the conspiracy/nist report. Therefore your NO Expert yet u troll u tube thinking people will believe your uneducated Opinion on something your mentally challenged on compared to a Expert. Also more then 60% of all usa people disagree with u FACT. Wake up or give up your uneducated& now Ignored

[herbys68]

@Headshothorror4488 @Headshothorror4488

Yes, I am. An engineer with experience in demolition. Science and evidence provided by the so called experts you quote is completely flawed.

What 60% of people in the US think is irrelevant.

There are very serious, peer reviewed analysis on the subject that clearly demolish the alleged evidence for a controlled explosion and not a SINGLE PEER REVIEWED paper to the contrary. Go get a degree in engineering and then do the analysis.

[muzicmaker2001]

@herbys68

It seems everyone on YT is an expert. Don't trust anyone who desperately attempts to discredit people without even knowing anything about them. That's the first sign of ignoreance and an agenda. So, thanks, but I will trust these REAL experts..

patriotsquestion911*com/engine­ers*html

1,500+ Engineers and Architects

250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals

220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials

400+ Medical Professionals

[foochwan2]

@seeknthetruth Logic or not logic.. it has happened...

[seeknthetruth]

@foochwan2

only says you? i'm gonna need a lil bit more than that.

[73mandala]

@diskpanic You are ridiculous,the truth movement has plenty of highly respected ppl in it from pilots,serving and former highly ranked CIA,FBI,Military intelligence ppl,architects,engineers,polic­e,firemen,professors,scientist­s and a host of others.The nutjobs that were talking about laser beams and such nonsense was ppl like yourself who infiltrated the groups then started saying lies and nonsense to discredit the group.Do you take it in the ass when you pick up your pay for lieing on yt?

[babystinky]

the flash in this video, shows the "ejection" of concrete after the flash.

[babystinky]

but there is similar flashes in the other buildings. it seems consistent, and there is also demolitions that have been recorded that have similar looking flashes.

[muzicmaker2001]

Starting at frame 1:00, flashes are seen well below the impact hole. No intense heat. On the other side, the "fire" theory fails to mention Edna Cintron, who was it at the North Tower impact hole for approx. 20 minutes before it collapsed. There was approx. 100 minutes between impact to collapse. So, after 80 mins of after intense heat, she wandered through this to the impact hole?

[RavenKL20]

at :03 you can see a face that looks like a skull in the smoke

[MasterofDisaster2012]

Maybe the fire collapsed a section of floor fell and power cables came in contact with other cables producing bright flashes light??

[ResidentPinto]

Wow. How can people ignore this. You can even see smoke begin to billow out of the exact spot of the flashes.

[kubush]

Yea because there were fires on that floor. I would guess that it was the reflection of the glass when it broke.

[muzicmaker2001]

Pay attention to frame 0:59 on to the end. There are flashes well below the impact zone. Many hundreds of feet. No fires there...

"before No. 2 came down, I saw low-level flashes. I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw."- NYFD Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory

[Anight7mareX]

Agreed. Many other people saw/heard that as well. And it's not the reflection of the windows because then the whole building would look like that.

[Ryantravisaol]

Lets say that flash really is an explosion, it really didn't do much did it? I'm saying, it was a tiny flash with NO ploom and to through of materials. Haven't you watched this and wondered why that flash causes absolutely no damage? If it was a true "Explosion for a Bomb" then we would have seen damage right then and there but why don't we?

[muzicmaker2001]

"Somewhere around the middle there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. With each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see." (cont.)

[muzicmaker2001]

(cont.)

"These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building"- NYFD Captain Karin Deshore

[Rikin100]

possibly glass smashed out, and blinking in the sun at 0:44 two glimts, probably because the glass turner around

[muzicmaker2001]

Note the flashes starting at frame 01:02 well below the impact zone.

[leftysergeant]

The light is not stationary. This rules out demolition charges. It is just panes of glass fal ing out of damaged windows.

Demolition charges would be stationary and would emit puffs of white smoke that disperses in a sphecrical pattern.

[Anight7mareX]

wake up.

[Ryantravisaol]

You Wake Up! These people are logical when your just irrational. Why cant you understand and believe that two Jetliners have the ability to drop two towers?

[Ryantravisaol]

and your 19....you were what, 11 when this happened? That's almost like you saying that Pearl Harbor was a lie, how the fuck do you know child?

[Anight7mareX]

Because I have common sense and I know how to watch a video and make observations.

[Ryantravisaol]

but your observation aren't correct. There is no evidence that supports your theory, just speculation and propaganda. It's not healthy to sit there and believe that your country is trying to kill you. If you think logically about what you are saying you will realize it's just not true. You honestly believe the Bush had bombs planted in the WTC to bring it down even though that would entail many people and would leave witnesses of these actions and nobody in the past 8 years has said anything?

[Anight7mareX]

Thats the thing...there IS evidence. And plenty of it. Once you realize that the government really doesn't give 2 shits about us you'll open up your mind and start to evaluate both sides. Even if you don't realize that, Look at both sides of the theory and then make your decision. I've done research for about 6 years, watching videos, looking up articles, witness statements, pictures, everything you can imagine. And with careful analysis is where I made my decision."Ask Questions Demand Answers"

[Ryantravisaol]

6 years? so you were "investigating" 9/11 since you were 13? Listen I was there and that's why i don't understand you people. Not only was I there but also was my uncle, who worked in the north tower. He's fine. Your just clinging to the words and ideas of paranoid people. If this country didn't care then why are they trying to fix all the problems we have, economy, healthcare, human right's? You have NO evidence, just speculation and blind arrogance.

[Anight7mareX]

I'm glad that he's fine. But also since you were, you probably weren't focusing on anything else besides getting to safety and being completely in shock with what has happening. And yes I was "investigating" it because there are ALOT of things that do not add up. If you have the interest in actually trying to see that its a possibility, then you will see.

[Ryantravisaol]

You are correct with your assumption of how I felt at the moment. I would like for you to understand that the millions of people I share a City with also felt this way and they did not sit back and accept a "Truth". We watched, read, and interpreted things too. Over the past 8 years, given all the things we've witnessed, read, seen, it's obvious that Bush did not take these buildings down. It's so clearly an act of terrorism against America, and the buildings fell due to extreme heat.

[Anight7mareX]

Dude that is impossible though. Fire cannot melt steel. But I don't really wanna argue though because we both believe different things. But like seriously if you look at some of the stuff, it all points to not necessarily the government but SOMEONE doing it on purpose that maybe was terrorists, but there was someone on the inside helping them out. It wasn't just outta nowhere someone in the united states helped them do it.

[Ryantravisaol]

Fire creates heat, heat melts steel.. Anyway I do agree there were people inside The United States that helped them. The terrorists that took control of the planes were from inside so why not more people. I just can't sit back and live in a world where our government, a first world government, would kill thousands of it's innocent civilians on purpose for no real reason. That theory is beyond sick, it's pure Evil and if something like that was true we would need to pray more and more.

[seeknthetruth]

Dude, you're so naive if you really believe that the goverment wouldn't harm you for a greater purpose.

[Ryantravisaol]

I think you misunderstand me. Do I believe the American government would kill me for no reason for a "greater good"...no I don't. I believe they would kill me if i were part of some epidemic or if I were a criminal...things of that nature. But to take down buildings and kill thousands of people on American soil for no foreseeable "Good"? No. I'm not naive, I just see a difference it what actually happened and what some paranoid people believe.

[MANMADEVIRUS]

i'm just wondering, if smoke rises, and people are in those rooms, do you like they might have smashed out the windows?

[Skeletorfw]

ever thought about electronics?

*sigh*

[noslaves2008]

i was thinking electrical myself but the first flash in this clip has too lasge a puff of smoke and clearly there is something falling from the point just after. Also - doesn't the wiring go up the core - Why would high power calbles go up the outside of a building ?

[Skeletorfw]

i see what you mean

but in demolition charges are only placed on major stress points, of which there are very few in the mane face, they're much more internal

i'm not ruling out a demolition, but if it was a covert one, it was poorly done by people who clearly were not professionals, with limited knowledge of shaped charges, structural stresses etc.

:)

[noslaves2008]

Ive been studying 911 videos for months now and Im not ruling out either CD or collapse. But the governments covering up - removal of evidence - going out of their way to hamper real investigation. Screams that something out of the ordinary happened that day. The fact that they melted the WTC evidence (the first steel sturctured building to have ever collapsed from fire) shows that they never wanted the collapse to be properly examined and invites people to ponder goventment involvement.

[Skeletorfw]

a good point to be sure

admittedly they have covered up, but on the other hand if someone like you or I could get hold of sensitive information then so could enemies the enemies of the government

(by the way i'm not sticking up for the us government, i'm simply trying to understand the logic behind a cover-up on a scale like this)

A demolition killing hundreds of people is a disaster, no matter which way you look at it, but it is also the perfect excuse 2 go 2 war with a country you don't like

[noslaves2008]

With the amount of money they have spent on this war they could have bought out the governments of both Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Skeletorfw]

You could buy out a government

But you cannot ever buy the loyalty of a people, you have to earn that

The war is expensive, but it has had so many impacts on the stability of the world (both good and bad) that i haven't the time to discuss

it's annoyingly slow do have a debate via youtube

[noslaves2008]

Yea but it gives you time to think of a decent anser doesn't it!!

[Skeletorfw]

haha

i suppose you could think of it in that way!

I still think that to pack a tower or two full of explosives just so that they can blame a terrorist organisation is an illogical idea

also, if it was rigged, then why did al-qaeda take the blame/credit (depending on your point of view?)

[noslaves2008]

Well Maybe a reason for WTC7 was that it was had the case evidence of quite a few (big end of town) corporate crimes that were being investigated (eg ENRON) Destroying these meant that alot of the cases had to be dropped. And alot of the accused were members of the (H**den Government). So that is the motive. Also WTC7 fell at freefall. Not how a fire/steel structure falls - exactly how a CD falls. & Although they blamed it on terrorist org - there was no link between OBinLaden and IRAQ

[noslaves2008]

Well Maybe a reason for WTC7 was that it was had the case evidence of quite a few (big end of town) corporate crimes that were being investigated (eg ENRON) Destroying these meant that alot of the cases had to be dropped. And alot of the accused were members of the (H**den Government). So that is the motive. Also WTC7 fell at freefall. Not how a fire/steel structure falls - exactly how a CD falls. & Although they blamed it on terrorist org - there was no link between OBinLaden and IRAQ

[noslaves2008]

And there were no WMD's in IRAQ. - BUT the US military used DU (depleated Uranium munitions) - totally negating the notion of liberating the Iraqi people (poison them you mean) Who do they think they are kidding - look up Afghanistan OIL pipeline to see the REAL reason for 911.

[CJPPHLA]

i am with you, small explosives on this scale could just be pockets of gas caused by the fire igniting, there are main internal struts that would need to be blasted and that would of involved drilling and placing explosives with wiring all over the place, not likely!!!

flying an aeroplane into it would cause the same structural failures.

[JackNeedles]

First of all, it IS likely. A jet alone did not bring down the buildings. Even the WTC chief engineer said that the planes alone did not bring downt he building. I think he knows more than you do--after all, he helped build the towers. Second of all, explosives could of easily been placed all over the towers, just like any other control demolition. third of all, the jet fuel would of actually put out the isolated fires because of the pure force. Physics doesn't lie.

[CJPPHLA]

omg - it is only rumoured that this is what the chief engineer said, he denied it!!, you would also need to drill into all the main support struts to cause a collaps, which means ripping some of the external dry walling out to get to them, it is also true that an initial explosion of that force could put out a fire, but then everything would be covered in fuel with many ignitable sources, physics doesn't lie!!! we can go round in circles with conspiracy theories!!!!

[DarthKazi]

Struts? This isn't a car. It was vertical columns with simple welded and bolted connections, trusses under most floors and beams on special floors. There are no "struts" and no drilling is required. All the floor-trusses and core columns were easily accessible because of the air conditioning ducts and other infrastructure. Explosive nano-thermate can also be SPRAYED ON nowadays. The same floors that were hit by planes, happened to get "fireproofing upgrades" in the 90's. Look it up!

[leftysergeant]

NHanno-thermiteis a crock of shit. It could not be applied as the idiot Jones says it could. It wouldn't even get hot enough to damage the steel if you could do it. You've been lied to. Those chips that Jones found? They contain silica. They're fire-retardant PAINT.

[DarthKazi]

Do they need wires to explode hatches and other pyrotechnic-dependent systems on the Mars Rover or space shuttle?

I mean, gimme a break. Do you really think IF some CIA/Mi6/Mossad/Global banker asshole group did this, they'd use "regular" demolition charges and WIRES?

WTF?

[leftysergeant]

Radio-controlled demolition charges area stupid idea in a building with a big-ass array of radio towers on the top of it. Please play "We Are Challenged" again.

[kubush]

Your are "challenged" since 1) you have no idea about the basics of "radio control" and 2) there were no demo charges in the first place.

[zacksethandy]

im not gonna type all that stuff up again for you. ile just post it elsewhere.

[zacksethandy]

haha faggot. faced with real evidence and you just delete the comment. go to hell all of you

[muzicmaker2001]

"before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes."-FDNY Fire Commissioner Gregory

"Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode.."-NYFD Captain Karin Deshore

[zacksethandy]

again very high pressure caused by tons of debris falling caused the massive amount of air in the towers to blow out the windows

[muzicmaker2001]

And the video above? Open your eyes. The building is at a standstill. No falling debris dude??? Also, there is huge gaping impact hole right in the middle. Can you see that?

[zacksethandy]

now will you all go away?

k thx

[zacksethandy]

What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

[zacksethandy]

Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction.

[vmmsnews]

those flashes were victims breaking windows so they could breath

[muzicmaker2001]

Check out Part One of this clip now with the South Tower. These flashes are directly around the collapse wave. Unless the victims are breaking out the windows all in unison, your theory makes no sense.

youtube[dot]com/watch?v=elYw7M­Hf7GQ

[zacksethandy]

Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

[muzicmaker2001]

The flashes above are explained by pancaking?

[zacksethandy]

lol you put them back now? what a hypocritical douche. and youl find i explained the flashes in an earlier comment

[muzicmaker2001]

Paranoid freak:

Even though you have offered nothing intelligent, I have not removed any of your comments ever.

[zacksethandy]

are you stupid? read my comments. im done wasting time with you. i jsut hope you idiots protest in ohio again. ive got 1000 more paintballs with your name on em.

[tkwtkwtkw]

The 90,000 liters of exploding jet fuel consumed approximately twelve floors of plastics, fabrics, petroleum products, chemical mixtures, wood, paper, etc. Structural steel begins to soften at around 425C; the conflagration at the WTC exceeded 700C. The collapse of the Towers was due to three factors: loss of strength due to the temperature of the fires; structural trauma from the impact of the airplanes; loss of integrity due to distortion of the steel from the weight of higher floors.

[rockchucker21]

TRY AGAIN>

[tkwtkwtkw]

The 90,000 liters of exploding jet fuel consumed approximately twelve floors of plastics, fabrics, petroleum products, chemical mixtures, wood, paper, etc. Structural steel begins to soften at around 425C; the conflagration at the WTC exceeded 700C. The collapse of the Towers was due to three factors: loss of strength due to the temperature of the fires; structural trauma from the impact of the airplanes; loss of integrity due to distortion of the steel from the weight of higher floors.

[heiniken1234]

Source: NIST report, The majority of the Jet fuel was consumed upon impact within a matter of seconds, and fueld combustables in the wtc, causing them to burn. Fires were not in excess of 800 deg fa, so try again.

[tkwtkwtkw]

I'm not sure what you mean by the 'majority' of the fuel, nor of your 800F source, but taking into consideration the elevator shafts, air ducts, common electrical access points, plumbing, and any of a dozen other major conduits for the fireball and its energy to find a way to expand, I stand by my comment.

[muzicmaker2001]

"The jet fuel probably burned out in less than 10 minutes."-Dr. Shyam Sunder, Lead Investigator for NIST

"While NIST did not find evidence that any of the recovered core columns experienced temperatures in excess of 250C.."-NIST, Request for Correction (Sep 27, 2007)

[tkwtkwtkw]

The additional problem was distortion of the steel in the fire. The temperature of the fire was not uniform everywhere, and the temperature on the outside of the box columns was clearly lower than on the side facing the fire. The temperature along the 18 m long joists was certainly not uniform. Given the thermal expansion of steel, a 150°C temperature difference from one location to another will produce yield-level residual stresses.

[tkwtkwtkw]

This produced distortions in the slender structural steel, which resulted in buckling failures. Thus, the failure of the steel was due to two factors: loss of strength due to the temperature of the fire, and loss of structural integrity due to distortion of the steel from the non-uniform temperatures in the fire.

[muzicmaker2001]

And, what do you say to the video evidence above, extreme temps recorded in the basements that lasted for weeks, cars overturned/melted, buildings collapsing in secs, and the many witness accounts of explosions heard and felt before the collapse? Also, you point to the weakening of steel at certain temps. Why hasn't a steel framed building collapsed ever before when exposed to these temps? Your theory is not logical.

[tkwtkwtkw]

First, consider the million of square feet of burning chemicals, plastics, office furniture, paper, fabrics, etc. being compacted into the sub-basement; trapped pockets of air fuel the flames at first, then more air enters as the wreckage is cleared. Next, the millions and millions of cubic inches of compressed air seeming to 'explode' as the sheer volume seeks the line of least resistance to escape.

As to the rest:

popularmechanics(dot)com/techn­ology/military_law/1227842(dot­)html?page=4

[muzicmaker2001]

Compacted in the sub-basement? I'm still confused. What do plane impacts/fires on the 78th and 94th floors have to do with the sub-basement levels? Some ppl also heard explosions in the sub-way.

[tkwtkwtkw]

I'm starting to like your style.

[zacksethandy]

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat.

[muzicmaker2001]

Blah blah blah. I think we are all familiar with the official story and the explanation. That's what started this whole thing because it is not logical when looking at ALL the evidence.

[zacksethandy]

do you have shit in your brain or something? look at what i just typed and tell me why it isnt logical. find a different way to bash bush, dont make all americans look stupid so you can go after bush

[zacksethandy]

Like all office buildings, the WTC towers contained a huge volume of air. As they pancaked, all that air — along with the concrete and other debris pulverized by the force of the collapse — was ejected with enormous energy. "When you have a significant portion of a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the window,"

[leftysergeant]

All I see in this clip is windows breaking out, either from heat above the impact zone, or just slipping loose after having been weakened by the impact below that point. No glass shards flying out horizontally. No puffs of exhaust gases from the explosives, and nobody noticed any sound of bombs in conjunction with these bursts. No explosives.

[khalid6591]

they di it and bin laden is bush business partnir just check who did make alot of money in 9/11 ?

[anusreaper]

sweet ass. the perps are goin down.

[rockchucker21]

I know they had explossives bring those buildings dow, you would have to be blind, and fairly stupid to beleive otherwise.

[anusreaper]

YES you would have to be.