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  • Globalization of gay-tolerance is not possible without the eradication of religious myth including Chritstainity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Mormonism, Scientology and Wicca.

    These Federally protected myths must be eradicated on a global scale, there's simply no other way to assure lasting world peace in the emerging World Order.

    In the years to come, the myth of religion and the notion of "God" will be wiped from the face of the Earth, only then shall our global godless utopia rise to flourish.

  • He gave Chely Wright shout out cool

  • I didn't know I could love him anymore than I did!! I was wrong :D Obama 2012

  • love u Obama

  • Fagtastic!

  • @MaryWaterton ...I am sorry that you feel that way. However, I believe you are mistaken. If President Obama were as dangerous to America as you seem to believe, you would be in a small, dirt-floored jail cell where your only dependable source of water would be a leaky pipe buried in the wall.

    We all have beliefs we hold dear, and want to share. Along with that entitlement however, goes a responsibility to respect the opposition, and a willingness to re-assess when necessary.

  • I love this man so much. He recognizes all Americans. Not just the evangelicals. We are ALL equal and worthy! Thank You President Obama for Declaring JUNE LGBT Pride month!

  • All went well with the exception of the insertion of the last religious sentence :P

  • @MaryWaterton

    *Osama Bin Laden.. And I like Obama =D

  • @MaryWaterton You are a dumb cunt. Shut the hell up

  • We praise the Whitehouse for joining in solidarity to further signify Gay Rights.

    Now, thanks to President Obama, Gays are no longer outsiders looking-in, but rather increasingly critical to Obama's US globalization effort.

    Amidst homeland turmoil and uncertainty; peace, security and gay rights must remain Obama's sole focus & priority.

    We salute the Federal Govt for focusing its resources to pass so many unprecedented gay rights into law.

    We look forward to a brighter future with Obama in 2012!

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  • this is funny, a muslim and gays. ya cant make up stuff like this, its real life.

    and the gay muslim is the president, funny stuff.

  • @blackking7878 Exactly my belief I believe in Jesus Christ but people like those who instead of holding out a hand of understanding choose to point and hate are what make the Christian Religion so hated. "God hates the sin, but loves the sinner' no matter what a person does or chooses, in God's eyes we are all his children. I think that hate being tossed around under his name makes him sadder than anything. God is Love.

  • @valu777 I was raised under the Christian religion, so if you wish to throw out things from the bible do so but do not use it to your discriminative use. In it it says nothing about God giving people the power to condem others or punish them, that's his job and only his. All of people such as yourself who walk around pointing fingers and judging others are the ones who most brake the 10 holy laws. The ones who lie, who hate, who envy, who steal, who kill, who treat others lesser than yourselves.

  • The other party candidate answered saying that this discrimination wasn't even noticed therefor, nothing would be handled about the matter.

    It's depressing that this goes on when it is the only few things such a huge community notices.

  • What's worse is that people feel this way everywhere, all over the world.

    Before the PM election there were interviews with party candidates and both were asked what would happen with these communities.

    One practically answered nothing would be done because of other problems such as immigration which is a problem in Australia at the moment but this can easily be worked into the LGBT as it is also discrimination.

  • I wish more stuff like this was happening in Australia and not just about LGBT. I want to see life in a way where everyone can get along regardless of differences and I want to see people support each other.

    Weekly I find out about another loved one having problems with loving themselves and others because of differences and it is hard to stand as one person and take in this much impact.

  • @valu777

    lmao. cool story bro.

  • I find so of yours 'Christianity' so funny! At one time southern Baptists (all of you are going to Hell anyway, so don't bother...) referred to blacks as mud people and the spawn of Satan & a human woman. So does that mean Satan is black? Oh wow, when you come before judgement of Jesus Christ (a JEW, with brown eyes and tan skin) he will throw your evil asses down to Hell.

    Your sin is ignorance, and the Devil will happily rape YOUR souls for eternity. Christian? NOT!! Devils? YES!!

  • I find it ironic that Pres Obama would have a reception for LGBT and yet didnt want to celebrate the National Day of Prayer. He obviously has a radical agenda and is ignoring part of his constituents! He is a decisive president and doesnt care for all Americans, despite what he says. ACTIONS SHOUT LOUDER THAN WORDS MR OBAMA!

  • @jacobew2000 preach it brother looks like satan is the president of the USA

    usa will pay as God will not be mocked Jesus Christ will be returning soon , this speaker will shake in his boots when that happens

  • @valu777 Your statements seem to present you as a narrow minded person/Christian.

  • @blackking7878 narrow is the way that leads to life , wide is the path that leads to distruction ? what path are you on ?

  • @valu777 I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. I'm sorry, before I go any further, I just wanted to be clear. I'm I speaking with God? Man looks on the outward of a man but God and only God discerns the heart of man. valu77, you could see a person living in sin today and in your mind you may judge right away without knowing that the Lord has plans on saving them tomorrow. Be blessed valu77

  • @black king 7878 cheers to you , remember , be holy as he is holy , overcome the sins of the flesh through the spirit , let God change you and pray always. God is a choice and all those that chose other than God are lost , even though God loves them all

  • great! pander to these perverts just to get a vote! stand up and defend normal people! deport gays to canada.

  • Dunno why but the argument over all this kinda makes me laugh. All men are created equal huh? What happened to the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Yet only now are Gay Rights being discussed. A tad hypocritical no? Not trying to point fingers, but I do have to say religion played a role in it. I will admit I'm not very well educated in the subject, and that I don't have the will to argue nor do I have anything to argue about, just expressing an opinion is all.

  • I'm gay.

    It's my fucking choice to be gay.

    I choose to be gay because I love gay guys and enjoy anal sex.

    Besides, I get hired alot thanks to quota laws in my state, they fear me what I can do if they don't hire a QUEER.

    Go Obama!!!

    It's so great to finally have a President who loves and appreciates the homosexual lifestyle more than heterosexual.

    I only voted for him because he's black and pro-gay.

    All the stuff about oil spills or the Environment, fuck all that, gay rights is all that matters.

  • @GayWorldOrder

    I don't believe you - no tone word of it.

  • @aardvarkcustard

    Belief is subjective, you can believe or disbelieve anything you want, your warped view on the world does not change what is already FACT.

  • @GayWorldOrder, yah and your facts of world view is the warped part! It defies thousands of years of society and what is thought of as despicable, and immoral. The Gay agenda is trying to warp those thousands of years of Morals and Morees..

  • @GayWorldOrder Oh hey, an obvious troll. Let's believe him and see where he leads us.

  • @FireChronos

    A troll is somebody who calls others trolls on publicly accessible forums such as YouTube.

    Are all videos made by the Whitehouse now part of some Democratic Elite or exclusive, member-only content not open to opposing views?

    LOL!!

    Calling somebody a troll for simply commenting, then having you pass dictatorial judgment on them with the label of "troll" is exactily what Hitler would have done.

    How does it feel to be more in league with a dirty murdering Nazi than an American citizen?

  • Go Mr.Prez! Amazing speech and amazing guy!

  • love is love you cant help who you pick so "dont juge less ye be juged" for those christians reading this right now, we dotn chose we find it out ourselves so please keep your mouth shut and let love be free

  • i don't see why people are against same-sex marriage. how the fuck does it affect your life?

  • @SamuelMT08 Gay marriage is pure evil,it will destroy america.Impeach Obama Now !

  • @montsyblackmadonna

    what has he done to deserve being impeached? oh... you don't agree with his policies. give me a fucking break, you selfish cunt.

  • @SamuelMT08 Your profanity laced rant reveals much about you.The F word is a vile sin.Obama is a wicked and satanic gay enabling agent of the satanic NWO illuminati.Obama is pure satanic evil.He must be Impeached for the greater glory of God.Gays are not real americans and should all be arrested not married.Have a nice day.

    Remember Vote Bible in 2010 & 2012 !

    Sarah Palin 2012 !

    Tea Party 2010 & 2012 !

  • @SamuelMT08, It affects society. Its the lattest example of throwing out all morality for the sake of "well it doesnt hurt you" mentality. Its no wonder all parts of our society is imploding from STD's (hetero and homo sex out of marriage), theft, murder, assaults, self control, depression, suicide, out of control spending, etc etc etc. There is no morality taught anymore and when you have an immoral society, it will of course affect everyone. Thats why it affects MY and YOUR lives!

  • @SamuelMT08 Rom 1:27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

    And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

    being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,

  • @Samuel MT08 same sex allows demon or unclean spirits of evil intent to enter and pass between people ,the result is degrading of mankind to shocking things murder rape theft and all sin will abound as the devil gets a greater foothold into mankind , GAY sex spreads evil spirits , this is the truth

  • @valu777 You are fucking fuck nuts. Stark raving FUCK NUTs god damn you warped minded assholes are the fucking evil okay. There is no such thing, NO SUCH THING as god and the devil. Shut the fuck up. SHUT THE FUCK UP with that tired nonsensicle sychophant bullshit. STOP TALKING fucker. This shit here pisses me off, It is so fucking crazy, crazy flew over Cuckoos nest insanity. Get help now, You are severely fucked in the head

  • @splicedenergy in the name of Jesus Christ i forbid your demons to act against the Gosple of salvation

    Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither [whatsoever] worketh abomination, or [maketh] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

  • @valu777 also, none of that made any sense. whatsoever. get an education (eg, a college degree... you may also consider traveling) and then reply to me.

  • @SamuelMT0 excuse me! are you not the one with the self confessed comprehension issue?

  • @valu777 why are you getting agro at this person?

    it shouldn't matter to you. What does the fact of a woman and another woman finding interest in eachother have to do with you in the slightest?

  • @GnarlyAndNaked it brings a curse upon the land & judgement on the people that's why it concerns knowing Christians , God hates it , look up Sodam & Gomorrah as an example of what our creator thinks of gaydom

  • @GnarlyAndNaked valu777 is the type of person who lives life trying to play the role of God. People like those are the ones who should just be ignored and left as a lost case. I consider them not alive, its alot easier to ignore them that way.

  • @MegaTeddy1992 Consider not alive? D:

    Could ignore by just not caring for what this person has to say because another persons opinion shouldn't affect someone else in any way. I'd prefer everyone to be alive and deal with lameness than to simply not exist.

    sorry that i'm talking about nothing >.>

  • Obama is a gay enabler,therefore he is going to hell.

  • @montsyblackmadonna how very christian of you, asshole.

  • Outstanding

  • @Ecnalb1028 I heard the cure is having gay sex. Hasn't worked so far but hey it's fun in the mean time!

  • @Ecnalb1028 i guess while your working i can call out sick to work and you cant get off easy haha

  • Juan Macready 2 thumbs up boy

  • Talk is cheap, this guy better give us more civil rights and equality or he will lose major votes.

  • @S201676 - thanks for the reply response. DOMA by definition prohibits this extension for same sex "spouses" of federal workers. DOMA prohibits any federal law from recognizing spouse to be a partner of the same gender. We need repeal, period. ;)

  • go MR president

  • Great speech...loved it

  • 2nd Peter 2:6,7.."And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly. Sodom and Gomorrah were saturated with sexual deviance, filthy behavior, and every form of godlessness known to mankind.

    As Sayville is the world's gayest suburb, gay prostitution has historically been common. It is most rampant when rich homosexuals like Mayor Bloomberg, Gov. Patterson and the President come out. 

  • @EPSWhiz were you there???

  • "helping to bring jobs to America"????? LOL Barry WHAT JOBS???? If you mean government jobs, yeah there are plenty more of them. Government jobs do not create a robust economy. Government jobs only inflate the bureaucracy.

    Good job pandering to your base here though....

  • Thanks President Obama.

  • He's Lying.

    Its time we start looking out for our own and do what is necessary to create our own reality.

    The Government won't save us, Politicians won't save us, Hate-Crime laws are useless at curbing homophobia.

    Obama promised "Real Change," and never delivered the National Gay Marriage Act. President is just another Epic Fail who allows both our planet's oceans and same-sex marriage options to get utterly destroyed.

    Don't be fooled again by this puppet's empty rhetoric and polished deception.

  • @GayWorldOrder Barack has expanded more rights to LGBT than any other president. He is only one man. He cannot do everything. He cannot be your personal savior and protect every individual from every homophobic bully that exists.

  • @porghog 4real. Bush would never appear at an lgbt reception, or any other president before him. At least Obama's not scared to defend us like every other politician seems to be. Progress is still progress, no matter the speed. GayWorldOrder sets his expectations way too high.

  • "Openly Terriffic" - Gotta love it!

  • Magnificent speech. The last fw minutes made me cry for joy, and made me proud to be an American again.

  • To ALL. Note in the US Citizens can vote ... for legislators to write laws, for judges to judge them, for initiatives to become law. But NONE of those votes can take away any right granted to us in the Constitution! The majority CANNOT vote away my rights or yours, and you should be ver thankful for that.

  • he's not even legally the prez. he's a criminal. he should be locked in jail. forget gay people, there's an international criminal syndicate utilizing obama to push in a New World Order Fascist Dictatorship. Goodbye constitution? Let's get this fool locked up first then worry about who's gay and who's not.

  • This man is a wimp!!  He is a big DISAPPOINTMENT!!

  • @NickMat1 You have no idea what kind of pressure he has to go through every day, so stfu!

  • but jay9465... as soon as Perry and Schwarzenegger is decided, CA will get it back. and ALL other states who have 'voted against it' can be taken to court under its precedence as denying CIVIL RIGHTS under the Fourtheenth Amendment..

    Then if the NINTH upholds... ALL the West will see Marriage Equality and there will just be SCOTUS left.

  • @08Shards I hope it does not come to that, this will bad a sad country to live in at that point. A country where a citizens vote counts for nothing in not a democracy.

  • Obama is a gay enabler,he is going to hell,and so is his infernal wife,Michelle.Gays are dooming this nation.Impeach Obama Now.Give gays no quarter.Have a blessed day.

  • @montsyblackmadonna Go fuck yourself in the arse!

  • I find it amusing how backwards we have it. Homosexuality is much more natural than marriage, as indicated by many members of our animal kingdom. Besides, marriage is about as "sacred" as toe fungus these days. Maybe a bunch of gay couples who are truly in love could actually revive this antiquated ritual? Time will only tell.

    @inquiry10: Amen.

  • One day his achievements will be noted in history as great acts of human rights progress.

    I hope my children will look back on these years with bewilderment on how we could ever have treated the gay, lesbian,bi-sexual and trans gender population as evil or even different.

    I have a dream.

  • Besides the Constitution never provided for homosexuality LIBERALS DID!! Show one section or title under the const. that supports such a concept. Its a piece of document as you can easily changed to suit our perverted minds

  • Nature shows us time and time againt that a woman side is by a man so what are you saying? faulty logic reasoning base on lust and emotions.

  • @Ecnalb1028 Nature does not show that. Nature shows that a female gets sperm from a male, while both are in heat, and then the female raises the offspring by herself. Stop injecting your own learned ideals into non-subjective reality of how reproduction works in the wild. The Constitution safeguards your choice, the choice of religion. Its funny that when people on your side talk about gay people its always about sex, and not love. I guess you think thats all there is to being gay. Pity.

  • Marriage is sacred . It is above the US constitution. It a right that comes from God, Nature, and our Anthropological background Obama will fail in his endeavor. One termer!!

  • @Ecnalb1028 Marriage is a guaranteed way of growing a religion. Ill believe it comes from god once you prove where god is. The US Constitution stands above the bible, since it grants people of the different books rights to worship, not the other way around.

  • @Ecnalb1028 Once again, you are a narrow-minded conservative.

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  • It's no wonder America is coming apart. Heavenly Father please be merciful to us.

  • @suchweresomeofyou Go pray for the oil spill, you crazy bastard.

  • BTW, I am a farmer.

  • Did you plug the hole yet Daddy ?

  • Go Bama! It's so delightful to see a President who really stands up for us in the LGBTQ community when other people would not. Your fiscal policies might be questionable, but your social and cultural policies I applaud. Cheers!

  • Obongo is a fucking disgrace.

  • @JuanMacready Loser!

  • STFU faggot.

  • i dont hate gay ppl i just dont agree with their sexuality

  • nobody hates gay ppl...its just odd....some ppl feel uncomfortable...i do sometime...but i dont hate gay ppl...

  • Barak Obama HATES gay people

  • what JOBS none in my town ...thanks Barry

  • we see what he real friends are like

  • obama is a sellout and you people are fucking fags oh my god god hates fags you mother fucking gay ass niggas who do nothing but watch gay porn and wack it all night

  • Now I want without any delay an AMERICAN WORKERS PRIDE MONTH and dito WHITE HOUSE RECEPTION !

  • @envanje Ummm... Gay people would be a part to that PRIDE Month too! Grow up!

  • @rainbowpride76

    so no problem for them, you are just one of those who do not work and live on the efforts of others with only contempt for American Workers. Get lost.

  • @envanje Excuse me! How do you know what I do or do not do for a living??!!! What a bizarre thing to say!

  • @rainbowpride76

    choice of words says it all.

  • @envanje For your information I am a freelance journalist / writer. What exactly do you do..? Apart from attempting to spew hate, of course..

  • @rainbowpride76

    I see, a journalist, a writer, in other words a sensationseeker, someone who allways will sacrifice the boring truth to the golden calf named extra sales.

    But if you would do something for the public benefit you should go into poor neighbourhoods, low paid hard working people, describe their difficult situation and demanding an American Workers Pride Month together with a White House reception !

    Those people are human you know, in their simplicity maybe more than you.

  • @envanje I am in no way a sensation seeker . I don't write scandalous articles to boost sales. I'm not from a privileged background. My family are working class & hard working & I am very proud of them. The point I'm making is you oppose the gay community having a month where they can come together to celebrate their struggles & lives, saying there should be an American Workers Pride. I agree that the average worker should be praised, just pointing out that gay people are the average worker too.

  • @rainbowpride76

    You prove to be a journalist for you are a liar. I never said I opposed the LGTB nor that they have their month of pride.

    But you my dear connect me saying there should be a month of American workers pride and dito White House reception with your imaginative opinion that I probably am against dito for the LGTB.

    It is you and you alone who connects these two completely different things and therefore showing your contempt for American Workers on who's back you live !

  • @envanje You did exactly the same by suggesting that I hate the average worker, and being a journalist means I am a sensation seeker who ignores the truth. You also suggested that I am less of a human because of my profession..! I just said that my family is 'the average worker' and I am very proud of them. Oh, I forgot, according to you I am also a liar.

  • @rainbowpride76

    finally you understood.

  • @envanje So, its one rule for one and another for everyone else? Its okay for you to say those things about me, but I can't suggest that you don't agree with LGBT Pride? Okay.. Look, I agree with you about the average worker deserving more credit than they are given, that was never in question. All I was saying was that gay people are the average worker too.

  • Gays should be re-educated !!!!! I subscrtibed to this channel,but after this I'll un-subscribe right now

  • @nicubucurestiromania I think think its you who needs to be re-educated. Lets take away some of your rights and see how you feel. It was a wonderful speech.

  • @rainbowpride76 I have nothing against their rights,but they must accept the treatment.... there are hospitals/clinics in the USA and in Europe to help them.But they must accept they're ill.

  • @nicubucurestiromania Hospitals/clinics to help what homosexuality, do you mean? That is dangerous & ridiculous. Homosexuality is not a disease or disorder. It's as natural & 'inbred' in an individual as heterosexuality. Why don't we try to cure people with blue eyes or size ten feet then?! Sound crazy..? Yep, just as crazy as thinking homosexuality is curable. Do you honestly believe millions of people would choose to be hated & treated as second class citizens if they didn't have to?

  • @rainbowpride76 Yep I do!

  • @jay9465 Why would someone do that? Purposely be at risk of losing their job for no other reason than who they love? Not being allowed the same rights that come with marriage? Risking having hate crimes committed against them. Being murdered, beaten and humiliated? Risking losing the custody of a child if their partner dies? Losing the love of their family and friends? Think about it, its ridiculous. These things don't mean anything to you because you take these things for granted. Lucky you.

  • @rainbowpride76 You have the same rights as I do. You can marry someone of the opposite sex and be granted all of the same rights I get. A person’s sexual orientation is not something you can base rights off of, it is a personal choice. The person chooses to be gay or lesbian. If I wanted to I could choose today to become gay knowing full well all of the connotations that come with that choice. Being gay or lesbian is not the same as being black or a woman.

  • @jay9465 Absolutely ridiculous. It is not a choice, & I think that deep down you know that you couldn't choose or 'decide' to be gay, just as you can't choose what size feet you have, or what your natural hair colour is. It's exactly the same way for gay people. Why do you think so many young people attempt suicide because of their sexuality & the worry of how other people will react to them? If it was a choice they would just say 'Nah, I'm gonna be straight, no need for the overdose..'

  • @rainbowpride76 jay9465 Would need to have empathy to understand, that and critical thinking skill. Unfortunately most people live and think with the status quo never trying to see issues from a person of a different perspective.

  • @SkyPanther0 See my previous post for the empathy part. Trust me I can think critically; I am doing so now. As far as understanding the plight of LGBT people. I have lived in California & the pacific North West. I have had my fare share of this plight. Frankly I'm sick of having this gay agenda forced down my thought by the media, people, and now the president. Homosexuality is now and always has been a sexual deviation, and therefore should be treated as such.

  • @jay9465 First off, marriage is a religious institution. I could care less for religion, myth and fairy tales people tell themselves to feel better about death. The state should not be condoning marriage. All unions should be civil unions in the eyes of the state, and then if people want to get married in the church they should be free to do that. Since marriage grants certain rights that are the domain of the state, religion should butt out.

  • @SkyPanther0 So it sound like your issues are with the state not religion, marriage, and straight people; I would even go so far as to say as your issues are even with corporate American since it is the insurance companies that are part of the problem. Then let me ask you this why are gay people so quick to attack the church, marriage, heterosexuals if their issues aren't even with these groups?

  • @jay9465 About bi-sexuals, there is a continuum of attraction, some people fall in the middle and hanse there are bi-sexuals. Same sex attraction has always exited in the human animal, and exists in the animal kingdom, so it is not a deviation. Also, gay gene theory, science is still out on that, due to 70% of twins both being gay. It is likely either both nature and nurture, or a condition that occurs in the womb.

  • @SkyPanther0 So there are gay babies now......LOL

  • @jay9465 Yes, there are gay babies. Though they wont know it till they get older. From your responses, debating you is a moot point. So I will end with this. It does not really matter what you, or people on your side think. In the end, my side will win. Just like we have won every other civil rights issue. It may not happen in my lifetime, but it will happen, and I will take solace in that. Peace!

  • @SkyPanther0 Really you will win. The only response I have for that is; in every single state where gay marriage has gone to the ballot it has been struck down by the voters, even in Portland, Oregon where they have an openly gay mayor. Who inclemently is also a pedophile I guess he got both of the sexual deviation genes :)

  • @SkyPanther0 The same could be said of all behaviors. If you had two brothers who both played soccer would you then argue that they had no choice but to become soccer players? Or that enjoying playing soccer was a genetic condition? Or due to something that occured in the womb?

    70% is a pretty terrible rate of correlation between twins. Considering they have the exact same genes most were raised by the same parents, in the same community, etc. That pretty well disproves your theory entirely.

  • @ArchNME Actually that points to a combination. Since 70% is pretty high. There is a correlation between birth order in brothers; the likelihood of one being gay rises each time the mother has a boy. Its not the same to soccer. The things straight men find sexually appealing in women does not translate to gay men. Its a different attraction. I am not sure why thats hard to understand. The things you find hot in the opposite sex, homosexuals do not find hot. Its not a conscious choice.

  • @SkyPanther0 No 70% correlation between twins is terrible and is pretty much solid proof it's not genetic. You may not be able to exactly choose what you like but it's no different than anything else. I don't like indian food for instance but if I grew up in Mumbai it would probably be different. You weren't born to be gay any more than I was born to hate indian food.

  • @ArchNME Thats your opinion, 70% is a high indicator in science, I should know. You are not gay so your assumptions and opinions are just that. Ask any person that is not Bi-sexual if they chose to feel attraction to the sex they do. When did you choose to like women? Did you wake up one day and say, "HAY!.. I think I like women today!"

  • @SkyPanther0 I could make a conscious choice to open my mind to the idea of sex with men and give it a try and once I had a few enjoyable sexual experiences with men I may look at them in a whole different light. We are all colored by our experiences. I notice that I find things attractive in woman that remind me of past sexual partners with whom I had had a rewarding experience. It's no different.

  • @ArchNME Then maybe you are bi-sexual? You can learn to like something, but you will always go back to what comes naturally to you. Just like there are gay men that hide the fact, and marry women, and then cheat on them with men. There is a difference between learning to appreciate something, an acquired taste, and something you plain like without any prompt to do so. You can force a left handed person to write with the right hand, but the left hand will always feel natural.

  • @SkyPanther0 I'm just human you closed minded twit. Why do you feel the need to define everyone into some silly category?

    I may always be attracted to the girls like the one I lost my virginity to but that doesn't mean I couldn't enjoy a life with someone totally different than her or that I would be living in some kind fo self denial to do so.

  • @ArchNME Nice name calling. Live your life as you choice, and let me live mine, huh? Is that not simple enough? You and I are different. Lets leave it at that. I was just saying that training yourself to like something is different then liking something that naturally. If you think its so simple to switch from one sex to another then maybe thats you. But don't attribute that quality to everyone.

  • @SkyPanther0 I'm glad you enjoyed my name calling. What can I say though, you had it coming.

    I'm not telling you not to be gay and I'm not saying it would be easy for you or that you should do anything.

    My whole point here is that you are not so different. Is that such a hard idea to let go off?

  • @ArchNME I don't think I am so different... I think sexual orientation is a small part of a person. And for some reason people make Mountains Out of Mole Hills based on who someone loves or is attracted to. This is my issue with the "gay social scene", and with "gay pride parades". Marching for equality I support, but most pride parades have turned into something else, more like gay versions of Mardi Gras.

  • @SkyPanther0 I know this may raise your ire but I think that humans natural sexual attraction is towards the opposite sex, that's kinda how we all got here. Not saying unnatural is bad or you can't be drawn to something unnatural. I think there is an innate desire to reproduce within us all though. I'm just saying if you found a way to see attractiveness in the opposite sex it could hardly be called unnatural. Left handed people can still pass on their genes without using their right hand.

  • @ArchNME If it were unnatural is a misnomer. If something is unnatural it would not exist. We categorize things that way; nature does not. For instance humans cannot fly, naturally, so its unnatural. But animals and humans, being animals have relations with the same sex. So its not unnatural, because it exists. reproducing is also not the only reason sex exists. See the countless of stories of gay men/women marrying straight people, and then cheating or divorcing due to them being, gay.

  • @SkyPanther0 Yes, the definition of natural is highly plastic and debatable I could argue that this computer is natural or whatever.

    Reproducing is pretty much the only reason sex exists though. Not that that's the only reason to do it. It's very enjoyable, the reason it's enjoyable is because people who enjoy sex are more likely to reproduce. It's evolution baby.

  • @ArchNME Evolution is not as simple as you think it is. There have been studies done that show same-sex relationships may play an important role in evolution.

  • @SkyPanther0 Also, just because some people choose a partner of the same sex over one of the opposite sex doesn't mean it's not a choice or that there feelings for there other partner were somehow not geniune. Lots of people get divorced and find new partners for various reasons. You can enjoy things for a time and then stop.

  • @ArchNME Its true that some stop liking something and leave. And some may have never liked it and were forced into it. Some may like both and decide they like same sex relationships better. People are complicated. Sexual orientation is static for some, fluid for others.

  • @SkyPanther0 You are not some persecuted minority gayness having been foisted upon you by the world. You like sex with men, I like chocolate cake, GET OVER IT!

  • @ArchNME I'll get over it when people stop using it to prohibit me from doing what I want to do. And its not just sex. Its love, companionship, someone to share your life with. Sex is small part of it. I don't think its a burden. People make it one by pushing their opinions or religious beliefs on me. When they stop that I will stop "the equal rights bullshit" as there will be no need to fight for it.

  • @SkyPanther0 Everytime you can't do what you feel like it's not an equal rights issue just because someone else can do what they feel like. Take marijauna vs alcohol for instance,

    Sex is only part of a relationship but forgive me I only have five hundred characters to work with here.

  • @ArchNME Its true, but when you can do it, and I can't, its an equal rights issue. For instance adoption, its banned for gay couples in some states, marriage is another. Blood donations, serving in the military without lying...etc... all things you can do that gay men/women cannot.

  • @SkyPanther0 I can't adopt because I'm not married to a woman either. I did serve in the military(don't judge) and I had to lie about a lot of things, blind patriotism, respecting higher ranking people, my history of drug use, etc...

    You do have equal rights as me, because if I had sex with a man in the last five years even if I didn't enjoy it they wouldn't let me give blood either. That was about AIDS anyway though and giving blood?? really?? that's a privilege now?? who cares.

  • @ArchNME Well gay couples cannot get married, so thats a moot point. Its a rights issue. Military: still lying. Just because you did it does not make it right. Blood donations; Its discrimination; just because your gay, they automatically assume you have AIDS. There are differences in how society judges your relationships, to how they judge mine, are you saying thats not the case and its all imaginary?

  • @SkyPanther0 The military thing isn't really lying because they don't ask. Don't ask don't tell works out pretty decently in reality. It keeps the retards from stapling rainbow flags to there uniform and swishing around like flamers and embarassing everyone and it allows "gay" people to serve in the military and enjoy all the dick they can handle with no issues.

  • @SkyPanther0 At the time that blood thing was implemented AIDS was mostly a gay disease and our ability to test for it very poor. I think it was a reasonable regulation to keep the blood supply clean. It's probably a bit dated now with improved testing they'll probably get rid of it eventually.

    Like I said before it's giving blood. So, give me a break. I mean it's not like you are banned from receiving it. Now that would be something to get upset about.

  • @SkyPanther0 You do have all the same rights I do though. You just want different rights. You want the right to marry someone of the same sex. Were you granted that right I would have it to. Just like you have the same right I do to marry someone of the opposite sex right now. We have the same rights. Again, everytime you can't do what you feel like and someone else can it's not an equal rights issue.

  • @ArchNME Saying I can do what you can do If I were like you, is kind of... I don't know..illogical. If I were you I would be you, not me. Its easy for you to say things like that since you are not me. And you do not understand me at all. You think you do; but you do not. So really, neither of us will change each others minds, and this debate is all just mental masturbation. Society will change in time, and I won't have to push for what I consider equality. I may be dead then, but it will happen.