ehrman's critical analysis of the bible is also applicable to all other so called holy books. you muslims have missed the real wider point of his thesis'. your analysis should go beyond the christian text
It has been fashionable over the past ten years or so for people to do a little research on the Bible or the early Church and then to use that research in an attempt to discredit the Chruch's faith.
Research on the Bible and the early Church has been ongoing for several hundred years, not just the past ten years or so. It is also an attempt to spread the truth. The truth which is so inconvenient to Christians.
If I were muslim I wouldn't defend a man who probably doesn't think much of Islam either. Ehrman also believes Paul was a true apostle and knew Jesus reletives and desciples and met with James in Jerusalem in 35 A.D. Muslims are desperate forsure. Anyway this is a stupid video 1 *.
1. Whether Ehrman thinks much of Islam or not is irrelevant here. Ehrman is the world's foremost authority on the Bible's manuscripts. He is not an authority on the Quran. Are you saying that Muslims should only use the materials written by Muslim advocates? This is absurd top say the least.
2. Paul was a false Apostle according to the Old Testament. Again whether Ehrman thinks otherwise is irrelevant. You also have to factor in his Christian background. He is an ex-Christian.
James White's PhD is a fake one. The degree is granted by an unaccredited correspondence school. CES has no library, student services or bookstore. The school has no curriculum committees and no course review procedures...
Unfortunately they have not been peer reviewed yet because they are still not in English. Hopefully soon These materials will be available in English and verified by scholars.
Yes it does. There is so much archaeological, scientific, historical and even psychological evidence for the Holy Quran. None of this exists for any other book.
The bulk of the reviews in this video is from people who personally attended that debate. Whether they are atheists or not is irrelevant really. I also added some of my own.
You do know the reason Bart Ehrman became an agnostic was because he felt there was too much pain and suffering for a God to exist, right? He talks about it in his books.
He became agnostic because at first he found all the differences and contradictions between the manuscripts of the Bible. He talks about this here watch?v=Trt1ZWR5PqQ&feature=channel_page
He also left Christianity because the Bible could not provide a reasonable answer for why we suffer.
One of the reason is that the Christian doctrine doesn't answer why humans suffer, your doctrines are based on emotions, you wish that God is your father, but in reality , chrisitans are suffering like any other people on earth. You feel pain, you die from diseases, floods, fires... Although your sins are fully paid ! Am I wrong?
I havent seen the debate but to bring Islam into a deabte that has nothing to do with Islam is just low - looks like Islam is giving Mr White problems he cant keep it out of his head lol.
The point of White is to take a statement from Ehrman against the Quran, so he can use this statement when a muslim quotes Bart Ehrman. James White has childish tactics.
ehrman's critical analysis of the bible is also applicable to all other so called holy books. you muslims have missed the real wider point of his thesis'. your analysis should go beyond the christian text
nonoylopez 2 years ago
1. It is not applicable to the Quran. Ehrman is only an authority of the Bible, not the Quran.
2. If you have any argument against the Quran then bring it on.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
It has been fashionable over the past ten years or so for people to do a little research on the Bible or the early Church and then to use that research in an attempt to discredit the Chruch's faith.
nonoylopez 2 years ago
Research on the Bible and the early Church has been ongoing for several hundred years, not just the past ten years or so. It is also an attempt to spread the truth. The truth which is so inconvenient to Christians.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
i really enjoyed this. thanks bro
sanileo 2 years ago
Thank you too and God bless you.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
If I were muslim I wouldn't defend a man who probably doesn't think much of Islam either. Ehrman also believes Paul was a true apostle and knew Jesus reletives and desciples and met with James in Jerusalem in 35 A.D. Muslims are desperate forsure. Anyway this is a stupid video 1 *.
White smoked airhead.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
1. Whether Ehrman thinks much of Islam or not is irrelevant here. Ehrman is the world's foremost authority on the Bible's manuscripts. He is not an authority on the Quran. Are you saying that Muslims should only use the materials written by Muslim advocates? This is absurd top say the least.
2. Paul was a false Apostle according to the Old Testament. Again whether Ehrman thinks otherwise is irrelevant. You also have to factor in his Christian background. He is an ex-Christian.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
3. Do you have any independent verification that Paul met with James in 35 AD? Do not bring Josephus here because we all know it is a forgery.
4. Muslims are not desperate. Muslims are spreading the truth. We do not care where that truth comes from. What matters to us is the truth.
5. Why do you think this is a "stupid video"? You just saying it does not prove it.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
James White's PhD is a fake one. The degree is granted by an unaccredited correspondence school. CES has no library, student services or bookstore. The school has no curriculum committees and no course review procedures...
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
Good information! Thank you and God bless you.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
Really? Can you name one archaeological site that proves the quran story is true? This would be information that has been peer reviewed as well.
iamleavingchina 3 years ago
Unfortunately they have not been peer reviewed yet because they are still not in English. Hopefully soon These materials will be available in English and verified by scholars.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
Why do you think you left one fictional unsupported religion for one that isn't fiction?
iamleavingchina 3 years ago
It is because Islam has so much evidence to back up its claims. Christianity does not have any.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Actually it doesn't.
iamleavingchina 3 years ago
Yes it does. There is so much archaeological, scientific, historical and even psychological evidence for the Holy Quran. None of this exists for any other book.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
Have you got the text from an atheist blog?
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
The bulk of the reviews in this video is from people who personally attended that debate. Whether they are atheists or not is irrelevant really. I also added some of my own.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
The whole idea of white bringing in islam into this topic is to run away from the topic itself. This is a normal christian tactic.
Thank you brother.
tudungsenduk 3 years ago
True. Christians are so obsessed about Islam they bring it up even when debating ex-Christians.
Thanks and God bless you.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
You do know the reason Bart Ehrman became an agnostic was because he felt there was too much pain and suffering for a God to exist, right? He talks about it in his books.
facilisdescenus 3 years ago
He became agnostic because at first he found all the differences and contradictions between the manuscripts of the Bible. He talks about this here watch?v=Trt1ZWR5PqQ&feature=channel_page
He also left Christianity because the Bible could not provide a reasonable answer for why we suffer.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
One of the reason is that the Christian doctrine doesn't answer why humans suffer, your doctrines are based on emotions, you wish that God is your father, but in reality , chrisitans are suffering like any other people on earth. You feel pain, you die from diseases, floods, fires... Although your sins are fully paid ! Am I wrong?
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
Spot on.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
Salaam
I havent seen the debate but to bring Islam into a deabte that has nothing to do with Islam is just low - looks like Islam is giving Mr White problems he cant keep it out of his head lol.
zafthedon 3 years ago
True.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
The point of White is to take a statement from Ehrman against the Quran, so he can use this statement when a muslim quotes Bart Ehrman. James White has childish tactics.
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
True. He was very desperate and him resorting to such low tactics proves it.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
Can you post the actual debate between them?
bandaidmafia 3 years ago
I cannot because it is copyrighted material.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
where did you get it?
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
White sells it for $6.
ExChristian2716 2 years ago
Well done 5/5
khaloodii 3 years ago
Thank you and God bless you. More rebuttals will be added.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago