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  • Hi, what do you mean by direct evidence? Is this different than observable evidence, like that is used in scientific hypotheses or police investigations?

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  • "Jean Valjean" - haha (joking) I couldn't resist play on words from Les Miserables...

  • I-ness during sleep

    When you wake up, you are the same person who went to bed. You're not someone else, with a different job, speaking a different language, living in a different city. Something stayed the same despite the apparent 'break' in consciousness. What 'stayed'?

    If 'you' went away and then came back (in time to hear the alarm clock), how did you know to come back?

    You really can't have gone anywhere, or 'broken off from' something that you later return to.

    What stays?

  • But without the body, the "physical" body, can the seeing occur? The light of the bulb is not the bulb itself. The light is not an object, has no boundary, and yet if you remove the bulb, the light is gone too.

  • @tan1772

    Seeing is an illusion though, seeing is a medium for interpreting things. Things have to be seen to be interpreted. It's all circular, except the the consciousness.

  • @tan1772 There is no physical body, what we call the body is sensations and visual stimuli, and if you break it down more seeing and sensations are not two, they are the same. So seeing does not need a body, nor does a body exist, the body or brain rather most likely is filtering experience so that it makes sense instead of just some crazy light show or disorder (chaos).. the word cosmos from chaos.

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  • Truly unique approach. Penetrating. Undermining conventional beliefs. Returning to basic perception, sensation. Unraveling a lot of false beliefs. Greg is a great teacher.

  • what do you experience?

  • I sure don't experience I-ness during deep dreamless sleep? Anyone else who do?

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