@ItsNastiaFan101 - I know - pause @ 00:28.....christ....had she been a clean vaulter she may have pipped Shushunova for the gold (of course all the soviet judges would have had to be removed lol) but still the same, those legs are appalling !!!!
I apologize to all for my poor english, i wanted say this was (Team free) where Silivas made double-double. I wanted say it because I thougt metsdudenj doubted her tumbling qualities (I didnt know diference between "vaulter" and "tumbler"). But I know of course diference between vault and floor!
Are you sane? That was a double-double (double full, double back, aka Silivas element)! For the first time in the history, and only few gymnasts have mastered that since! (I think Zamo, Chei Feng and Vanessa, nobody else). So Silivas is one of the best tumblers ever, if not the best!
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Are you sane? We are talking about vault, not floor exercise. Silivas is a great dancer, a fine technician, and very good tumbler, but she isnt powerful like a Brandy Johnson or Elena Shushunova. She didnt have the power in vault to regularly score 10s. ALso, her double double in Seoul was poorly done. It should have had a .2 deduction. Brandyjohnson had the same error on her full in and got a .2 deduction for that.
Yes this person is sane - apparently you aren't. Boguinskaya and Priakhina did double doubles in Jr Euros86/Euros 87. They didn't botch the landing like Silivas did in Seoul, either.
With the imperfect tens that others got at Seoul it hardly bothers me that Silivas did not receive a .2 deduction on her Team FX for the double double. At least she had the guts to throw it-the only female gymnast I believe in contention to even try it-at a time when scores carried on into the AA. For that she gets full marks and I'm glad the judges gave her the benefit of the doubt.
Nope! Priakhina has landed it successfully more than once! I trust this is the ONLY time Silivas tried it, and it was named after her. A bit unfair, if you ask me!
You don't have to land an element perfectly to get it named for you. I think you basically have to stand it up without a fall. Simona Amanar landed the 2.5 Yurchenko pretty badly enough that she stumbled right out of a medal-but she still managed to stay on her feet. And Silivas landed the double double with a step to the side but it did not mar the flow of her routine horribly. She carried on and landed the rest of her elements well.
shu tup tony.she is balanced ot the left most humans are built that way,daniela was known for ehr forces moving tot he right .yelena had that problem in her super dopper tumberling (yes in my life is an officla discription)she went backwards and went inot a side karrt whell to compensate for the forces,this was a saftery move and cunning in her routine.only she can tell me im wrong.both classes above evreyone else and you know it .now shush i had greta taste in women and i know it.
Priakhina did not make it onto a World or Olympic team. She pioneered several moves that were named for others who did them at the bigger two events (and not just the Silivas on fx-her original moves on bars, beam, and vault were named for others too) .
I strongly believe competitions like the Europeans, and Pacific Alliance should count towards having an innovative element named for you. Still-under the rules in place Silivas did it first at a major competition-in this case the Olympics-so it is named for her. Olga Mostepanova was the first to perform the arabian handspring at Worlds 1983-but the element is inexplicably named for Henrietta Onodi. I have read Onodi herself calls it a 'Mostepanova'.
You are incorrect and I will explain why. Silivas was NEVER in the top 5 in the world in vault. She never made the event finals in a World Championships. On her own team she was eclipsed by Dobre, Potorac, and Golea. She always had leg breaks in the air, and was overscored because of her reputation. She had absolutely no business being on the podium in Seoul. She was given high scores on weak vaults with no height. That bronze belonged to either Stoyanova or Johnson, not Silivas.
Her vaults had beautiful symmetry to them which is why she scored so high, the form and power were adequate for the scores she received.
And she was appropriately deducted for the leg breaks and still was better than Johnson and had every right to be on the podium.
Your comment about her reputation carries no validity, as I said silver in the Euros where she had no reputation other than that she was a Romanian hopeful.
And another thing, how is the a watered down field when every medalist in both the Worlds and Olympics (Other than Phoebe Mills with a bronze in the 88 Olympics EF on beam) Was European?
In the 87 Euros, a lot of the top competitiors were injured: Most of the EGermans, some of the Romanians, and several of the Soviets. I mean for cripes sake, a WEST GERMAN won a medal on beam. Hello
At Seoul, the best vaulter in the world, Shushunova, didnt medal, so right there she would have been fourth. The 4th and 5th place vaulters were underscored. Golea should have made finals over Silivas. Dobre was injured but a far superior vaulter. Baitova was relegated to Soviet lead off.
how the fuck did she get 9.9 for that when Straz did a much better vault for the same score?
ItsNastiaFan101 2 years ago
@ItsNastiaFan101 She went last on her team where as straz probably didn't.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago
@gymnasticsloverxoxo true as that may be, it doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Silivas was a horrible vaulter.
ItsNastiaFan101 1 year ago
@ItsNastiaFan101 Sure she didn't have the extension some gymnasts had but when she stuck her vaults they were great.
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ItsNastiaFan101 1 year ago
@ItsNastiaFan101 - I know - pause @ 00:28.....christ....had she been a clean vaulter she may have pipped Shushunova for the gold (of course all the soviet judges would have had to be removed lol) but still the same, those legs are appalling !!!!
garyj79 1 year ago
She was robbed
Billabong0110 3 years ago 3
Undoubtedly.
WSggs 3 years ago 2
Love her!
DorulCalator 3 years ago
I apologize to all for my poor english, i wanted say this was (Team free) where Silivas made double-double. I wanted say it because I thougt metsdudenj doubted her tumbling qualities (I didnt know diference between "vaulter" and "tumbler"). But I know of course diference between vault and floor!
finfelagund 4 years ago 2
she just isnt a good vaulter
metsdudenj 4 years ago
Are you sane? That was a double-double (double full, double back, aka Silivas element)! For the first time in the history, and only few gymnasts have mastered that since! (I think Zamo, Chei Feng and Vanessa, nobody else). So Silivas is one of the best tumblers ever, if not the best!
finfelagund 4 years ago 2
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Are you sane? We are talking about vault, not floor exercise. Silivas is a great dancer, a fine technician, and very good tumbler, but she isnt powerful like a Brandy Johnson or Elena Shushunova. She didnt have the power in vault to regularly score 10s. ALso, her double double in Seoul was poorly done. It should have had a .2 deduction. Brandyjohnson had the same error on her full in and got a .2 deduction for that.
metsdudenj 4 years ago
In addition, Groshkova did a double-in pike/tuck out which is even more insanely difficult and landed it fair to well.
TuesdayPillow 3 years ago
Yes this person is sane - apparently you aren't. Boguinskaya and Priakhina did double doubles in Jr Euros86/Euros 87. They didn't botch the landing like Silivas did in Seoul, either.
GoSveta 4 years ago
With the imperfect tens that others got at Seoul it hardly bothers me that Silivas did not receive a .2 deduction on her Team FX for the double double. At least she had the guts to throw it-the only female gymnast I believe in contention to even try it-at a time when scores carried on into the AA. For that she gets full marks and I'm glad the judges gave her the benefit of the doubt.
audie83 4 years ago 5
Actually if I recall Priakhina did botch most of the landings on that pass (from what I've seen of her on film).
TuesdayPillow 3 years ago 2
Nope! Priakhina has landed it successfully more than once! I trust this is the ONLY time Silivas tried it, and it was named after her. A bit unfair, if you ask me!
Darkangel127 3 years ago
Cool do you know if there is video footage of her landing the double double well?
TuesdayPillow 3 years ago
Type Aleftina Priakhina. The 1st video that comes up is her floor routine from the 1987 Europeans, where she lands it perfectly!
Darkangel127 3 years ago
You don't have to land an element perfectly to get it named for you. I think you basically have to stand it up without a fall. Simona Amanar landed the 2.5 Yurchenko pretty badly enough that she stumbled right out of a medal-but she still managed to stay on her feet. And Silivas landed the double double with a step to the side but it did not mar the flow of her routine horribly. She carried on and landed the rest of her elements well.
PhillyGal4Ever 3 years ago 2
shu tup tony.she is balanced ot the left most humans are built that way,daniela was known for ehr forces moving tot he right .yelena had that problem in her super dopper tumberling (yes in my life is an officla discription)she went backwards and went inot a side karrt whell to compensate for the forces,this was a saftery move and cunning in her routine.only she can tell me im wrong.both classes above evreyone else and you know it .now shush i had greta taste in women and i know it.
delpha3110 2 years ago
You don't get a move named after you unless its done in the Olympics.
Case and point: Silivas' mount wasn't called a "Silivas" until the olympics.
Svetlana Khorkina also did Priakhina's vault and it got named after her.
It's just how it goes.
WSggs 3 years ago
Priakhina did not make it onto a World or Olympic team. She pioneered several moves that were named for others who did them at the bigger two events (and not just the Silivas on fx-her original moves on bars, beam, and vault were named for others too) .
PhillyGal4Ever 3 years ago 2
I strongly believe competitions like the Europeans, and Pacific Alliance should count towards having an innovative element named for you. Still-under the rules in place Silivas did it first at a major competition-in this case the Olympics-so it is named for her. Olga Mostepanova was the first to perform the arabian handspring at Worlds 1983-but the element is inexplicably named for Henrietta Onodi. I have read Onodi herself calls it a 'Mostepanova'.
PhillyGal4Ever 3 years ago 7
Boginskaya didn't dare attempt it in an Olympics either.
Silivas had guts she didn't have.
WSggs 3 years ago
People say that because she's compared to Shushunova.
Silivas was constantly in the top 5 in the world in vault.
She had power, good form.
Her problems were the landings.
Shushunova was superior on vault.
But your comment is far over-generalized.
WSggs 3 years ago
You are incorrect and I will explain why. Silivas was NEVER in the top 5 in the world in vault. She never made the event finals in a World Championships. On her own team she was eclipsed by Dobre, Potorac, and Golea. She always had leg breaks in the air, and was overscored because of her reputation. She had absolutely no business being on the podium in Seoul. She was given high scores on weak vaults with no height. That bronze belonged to either Stoyanova or Johnson, not Silivas.
metsdudenj 3 years ago
Silivas won the silver in the 87 Euros.
Her vaults had beautiful symmetry to them which is why she scored so high, the form and power were adequate for the scores she received.
And she was appropriately deducted for the leg breaks and still was better than Johnson and had every right to be on the podium.
Your comment about her reputation carries no validity, as I said silver in the Euros where she had no reputation other than that she was a Romanian hopeful.
She made the EF's in 89. Look it up.
WSggs 3 years ago
She won silver in a watered down field. She was never a world class vaulter on TWO different vaults. She made finals in Euros ONCE in 5 years.
metsdudenj 3 years ago
WRONG.
She made EF in Vault in 87 and 89 in the Euros.
Think your comments through a little better.
WSggs 3 years ago 4
And another thing, how is the a watered down field when every medalist in both the Worlds and Olympics (Other than Phoebe Mills with a bronze in the 88 Olympics EF on beam) Was European?
WSggs 3 years ago 4
In the 87 Euros, a lot of the top competitiors were injured: Most of the EGermans, some of the Romanians, and several of the Soviets. I mean for cripes sake, a WEST GERMAN won a medal on beam. Hello
At Seoul, the best vaulter in the world, Shushunova, didnt medal, so right there she would have been fourth. The 4th and 5th place vaulters were underscored. Golea should have made finals over Silivas. Dobre was injured but a far superior vaulter. Baitova was relegated to Soviet lead off.
metsdudenj 3 years ago
You state underscoring as though it was fact, which its actually only your opinion.
The 4th and 5th place competitors had hops and form errors, same as Silivas. Silivas had symmetry they didn't have which is how she won bronze.
Had Shushunova been to par she would have medaled, but she wasn't.
And with her not medaling Silivas had a rightful place on the podium and your statements become void.
WSggs 3 years ago 4
Actually, my bad she didn't make the EF's in 89.
WSggs 3 years ago 2
What's meant by team 'free'?
ram83160 5 years ago
Team Optionals
saks07 5 years ago