People talk shit about the Russians but Im pretty sure us and the Americans could not have defeat Germany. I mean when you think about the battles on the eastern front makes the Normandy landings like a cake walk.
12-15 million germans ethnically cleansed....i know comments will be made about hitlerite conduct in the east......but most people are aware of this....nothing is said of the vertreibung...except a few select books by the likes of alfred de zayas....700 years of history wiped out.......shame on the western allies...
@why2lie WHAT!!!!!!..how about the systematic round the clock bombing of German cities? At Yalta/Potsdam the Western Allies agreed that both the Polish and Soviet borders would move westwards. This meant that the areas assigned to Poland..the Oder-Neisse provinces would have to be cleansed of Germans as would E.Prussia. They also agreed with Benes that Cz.Slvk. would be ethnically cleansed of Germans. By 1944/45 the Allies no longer differentiated over Germans and Nazis.
@randypan71 No one wants to kill except the Germans. Everybody wants peace, equalilty, justice, happiness, joy, love, freedom, brotherhood, etc.. The Germans want nothing but death and destruction, torture, evil, darkness, hell, and the like. It's all understandable though. They say the Germans and the Japs are the children of Lucifer.
@why2lie as a history teacher you must forgive my ignorance as to not realising that WW2 was still being fought. the experiences of war and depression moulded those countries into fascistic imperialistic nations. nazism and japanese militarism were born from the experiences of 1914-29. to say EVERYONE wants peace love etc is using post-war attitudes and applying them to a point in history where they rarely existed.
@why2lie you are obviously unaware of the differences between explaining evil and defending evil. I am EXPLAINING the rise of the fascistic empire states NOT defending them. My previous comments about the expulsion of eastern europe's germans was an analogy to the comment nietzsche made..."he who destroys monsters should see he does not become a monster himself"...which is exactly what the western allies became when the help organise the largest forced migration in human history.
@randypan71 You should keep everything simple and use plain English...lol. If you tried too hard to sound educated, you'd confuse yourself...omg teacher.
Anti-intellectuals such as yourself (who unfortunately seem to be growing in numbers these days) are precisely what led to the horrors of Nazi Germany in the first place,
randypan71's comment made perfect sense to me.
Pray do tell us which parts of randypan71's comment are not plain English, in comparison to yours, replete with lol's and omg's.
@why2lie Godwin's Law has been proven again and again on any on-line discourse re: World War 2. As time goes on the likelihood of being accused of being a 'Nazi' increases simply b/c you disagree with someone or the 'official version' of the war as written by the Allies. Calling someone a 'Nazi' is like calling them ''ugly": it isn't a logical argument and it doesn't solve a damn thing. It's immature and extremely lame. Try exercising some logic instead of obstructing debate.
12,000 prisoners gassed per day? Not possible given the fact that not one gas chamber was ever found. As far as cremation of the bodies, what was used to fuel the furnaces? Germany didn't have the fuel. The allies have photographs of the camp, taken from the air many months before the Russians entered the camp, and there are no signs of gas chambers. The crematoria was only large enough to cremate a few bodies at a time. Most deaths were from disease and starvation. These were labor camps.
@astranine Watch the documentary on Auschwitz. You will see it and it will be explained. Poland had plenty of coal and coke to carry out the jobs. One of the reasons that Auswitz was built were it was. The Germans also destroyed the gas chambers and crematoria to cover what they had done when they knew that they had to retreat. Also in another camp, in an uprising, prisoners set fire to a crematorium and gas chamber and it was destroyed. Hopefully you are not a Holocaust denier.
Russia liberated Poland, LOL Yeah, after attacking Poland from the east while Germans were attacking from the west. Russians had a pact with the Germans. This film fails to mention that Poland had to fight Russia and Germany at the same time. Also, the Russian military murdered a few thousand Polish military officers in the forests of Katyn. Later, afther the Germans got the Russian help they wanted, they turned on the Russians and attacked them.
It is a fact that Hitler and Stalin was allied between 1939-1941.Hitler could not have fought war in the west without oil and minerals from ussr,a fact the russians er kean to forget,they only remember after Stalingrad.
But there is no doubt that the russians where the defeater of nazi germany.80% of the german army losses where on the eastern front.And in 1944 only 20% of the wehrmacht were fighting in France.
Remenber the old saying: "The first casualty in war is the truth".be skeptical in war
Don't think history can repeat itself? I got an email blog about 'U.S. Concentration Camps,' quite scary. An a possible 'American' holocaust waiting to happen if the corruption does not end. And who will be the targeted ones? I really think these are the ones to be targeted: corrupt politics, church leaders, violent criminals, Muslims/Islams, special interest groups, illegals/Latinos, greedy/corrupt corporate executives/CEOs and civilians who support corrupt propagandas and organizations.
@ScorpioBornIn69 Have you watched Zombie flicks or some outbreak of a virus? Thats the purpose of this camps. To contain the virus. Sounds shocking, but it''s the truth.
So ironic to hear these Red Army idiots talking about the Germans like that since the USSR and Stalin are responsible for well over 50+ million more murders than Hitler and Germany during that time period.
You, my friend, are wrong. You can get the numbers from a number of different sources. The USSR was the definition of scum and as an American, we should have been allies with the Germans.
Please name a source. I think you just made up a number, because you are very wrong. Stalin killed in total 20 million of his own people. He did that in 31 years. The nazi's killed many more people, and they did it in only six years. They killed 12 million Russian civilians, 5 million Polish civilians, 8 million Sovjet soldiers, 6 million Jews and many, many more.
"I didn't expect to see an oven made to burn people". Is he really shocked to see a crematorium? They had those in Soviet Russia and in England and in France long before Hitler was even born. It was accepted, with the exception of a few Catholics, all over Europe.
@naltrexone23X - And don't forget what the British did during the Boer War in South Africa. The idea of concentration camps came, as you said, long before Hitler was born. I bet you've never heard of Lord Kitchener.
"Twelve thousand prisoners were gassed per day." There is no evidence to support this ridiculous number. The use of gas chambers is widely disputed as no real gas chamber was ever found.
Stalin make a deal with Hitler?? At that late stage in the war?? You have to be kidding. By 1945, the Nazis have NOTHING to offer the Soviets. Basically, anything the Soviets want, they can just take it by force. That really is selective history from Mr Ambrose as he ignores the fact that the Nazis tried at diff times at 1945 to establish a separate peace with the WESTERN ALLIES!!
Stalin cut a deal with Hitler at that stage of the war? Get Real, Not a chance in Hell. Typical American, take all the credit, self-glorification nonsense by Ambrose.
@HYHK Yes, Germany was defeated by the time of the Ardense Offensive, so a division between the allies would have had little effect on the outcome of the war. However, don't forget the contribution made by the US which kept Russia in the war. Massive aid by the US to Russia and the UK kept both allies fighting and bought valuable time. Bombing German cities kept German war production down and the US's war with Japan greatly helped Russia by keeping japan out of Siberia.
@HYHK Hitler did cut a deal with Stalin in 1939, Adolf Hitler invited Communism into Europe as Allies, The Nazis and Communist invaded nations as friends and had victory parades, The Soviets supplied the Nazis with resources,supplies to use against the Allies, There were even Soviet supplies used in Operation Barberossa, The Soviets were invaded with the Axis using Soviets supplies!!!
Stalin was too busy starving the Ukraines to death and killing his own political enemies to concentrate on an all out attack on germany, luckily he had some real help from the allies to overcome Germany..
@BadgerinSC Sovet propaganda claimed outlandish amounts were gassed per day, and that 3 million died at Auschwitz. THOSE claims were soviet propaganda, and by many were dismissed as such.
Once tensions cooled down during the cold war, and the reds let the west carry out some realistic, proper examinations of the killing sites, the numbers were reduced.
And with 5 gas chambers at Birkenau, each capable of holding 1,000 people at once, with 15 minutes needed to kill all inside, it's possible.
Historian wanna-bes and schicklgrubers alike abound in these YouTube video message boards with their hypothetical worlds of 'could', 'should', 'would' and, last but not least, IFs ...
Shit doc, any doc that uses pseudo historians like Stephen Ambrose will always be a joke.
"Stalin may have cut a deal with the Nazis"
Utter bollocks without any basis in fact. Stalin had amassed 13 armies on the Polish border. At that point in the war, with or without the Brits/U.S the Russians would have contiued and won against the Germans.
@Kralhonj pseudo historian lol where the fuck have you been did youlike the world at war series from the early 70s ambrose was used on that a lot tooooooo i think the bell just rang you better go back to class............
@atltom58 Your hero Ambrose plagiarized his doctoral thesis and spent his entire career as an apologist for the failings of U.S inter-war foreign policy. Cheap jibes are probably your intellectual strong point, so I don’t plan any long Youtube correspondence with you.
haha what? If it was just germany vs russia, germany would have annihilated russia from the face of earth, germany took on too much at the end, thats why they were defeated.
@FlusherD12 Germany took on too much in the beginning; 22 June 1941 when they invaded Russia and opened a WAR ON 2 FRONTS. From that date the war was lost. As to whether a war fought just between Germany and Russia would have ended with a victory for Germany we’ll never know..thankfully.
yea that's what i said, what I can't stand is when they say that Britain won the war, hahaha I laugh everytime i hear that, the only thing they mananged to was not get invaded in the first year when america did not intervene
People talk shit about the Russians but Im pretty sure us and the Americans could not have defeat Germany. I mean when you think about the battles on the eastern front makes the Normandy landings like a cake walk.
patsyd80 4 months ago
Hitler ist ein dickhead
Walkingzombi 6 months ago
@somethingxbeyond Good luck on your work. I'm sure Hitler will be proud of you.
niceguyFTW 7 months ago
12-15 million germans ethnically cleansed....i know comments will be made about hitlerite conduct in the east......but most people are aware of this....nothing is said of the vertreibung...except a few select books by the likes of alfred de zayas....700 years of history wiped out.......shame on the western allies...
randypan71 8 months ago
@randypan71 Omg...the western allies saved germany from complete destruction.
why2lie 7 months ago
@why2lie WHAT!!!!!!..how about the systematic round the clock bombing of German cities? At Yalta/Potsdam the Western Allies agreed that both the Polish and Soviet borders would move westwards. This meant that the areas assigned to Poland..the Oder-Neisse provinces would have to be cleansed of Germans as would E.Prussia. They also agreed with Benes that Cz.Slvk. would be ethnically cleansed of Germans. By 1944/45 the Allies no longer differentiated over Germans and Nazis.
randypan71 7 months ago
@randypan71 No one wants to kill except the Germans. Everybody wants peace, equalilty, justice, happiness, joy, love, freedom, brotherhood, etc.. The Germans want nothing but death and destruction, torture, evil, darkness, hell, and the like. It's all understandable though. They say the Germans and the Japs are the children of Lucifer.
why2lie 7 months ago
@why2lie as a history teacher you must forgive my ignorance as to not realising that WW2 was still being fought. the experiences of war and depression moulded those countries into fascistic imperialistic nations. nazism and japanese militarism were born from the experiences of 1914-29. to say EVERYONE wants peace love etc is using post-war attitudes and applying them to a point in history where they rarely existed.
randypan71 7 months ago
@randypan71 Defending evil is just when you're a nazi. A nazi will always be a nazi.
why2lie 7 months ago
@why2lie you are obviously unaware of the differences between explaining evil and defending evil. I am EXPLAINING the rise of the fascistic empire states NOT defending them. My previous comments about the expulsion of eastern europe's germans was an analogy to the comment nietzsche made..."he who destroys monsters should see he does not become a monster himself"...which is exactly what the western allies became when the help organise the largest forced migration in human history.
randypan71 7 months ago
@randypan71 You should keep everything simple and use plain English...lol. If you tried too hard to sound educated, you'd confuse yourself...omg teacher.
why2lie 7 months ago
@why2lie
Anti-intellectuals such as yourself (who unfortunately seem to be growing in numbers these days) are precisely what led to the horrors of Nazi Germany in the first place,
randypan71's comment made perfect sense to me.
Pray do tell us which parts of randypan71's comment are not plain English, in comparison to yours, replete with lol's and omg's.
Hexachloraphine 6 months ago
@Hexachloraphine Which side of history are you on? There are two kinds of men on this earth...which are you? Good or evil? Allies or Axis?
why2lie 6 months ago
@why2lie Godwin's Law has been proven again and again on any on-line discourse re: World War 2. As time goes on the likelihood of being accused of being a 'Nazi' increases simply b/c you disagree with someone or the 'official version' of the war as written by the Allies. Calling someone a 'Nazi' is like calling them ''ugly": it isn't a logical argument and it doesn't solve a damn thing. It's immature and extremely lame. Try exercising some logic instead of obstructing debate.
23Henrich 5 months ago
12,000 prisoners gassed per day? Not possible given the fact that not one gas chamber was ever found. As far as cremation of the bodies, what was used to fuel the furnaces? Germany didn't have the fuel. The allies have photographs of the camp, taken from the air many months before the Russians entered the camp, and there are no signs of gas chambers. The crematoria was only large enough to cremate a few bodies at a time. Most deaths were from disease and starvation. These were labor camps.
astranine 8 months ago
@astranine Watch the documentary on Auschwitz. You will see it and it will be explained. Poland had plenty of coal and coke to carry out the jobs. One of the reasons that Auswitz was built were it was. The Germans also destroyed the gas chambers and crematoria to cover what they had done when they knew that they had to retreat. Also in another camp, in an uprising, prisoners set fire to a crematorium and gas chamber and it was destroyed. Hopefully you are not a Holocaust denier.
willyboi708 8 months ago
@astranine Which planet are you from? Oh, I forgot. You're a nazi and you're from hell. LOL.
why2lie 7 months ago
Russia liberated Poland, LOL Yeah, after attacking Poland from the east while Germans were attacking from the west. Russians had a pact with the Germans. This film fails to mention that Poland had to fight Russia and Germany at the same time. Also, the Russian military murdered a few thousand Polish military officers in the forests of Katyn. Later, afther the Germans got the Russian help they wanted, they turned on the Russians and attacked them.
plsniper 9 months ago
ironic war began over Poland, in the end Poland still not free but occupied by Russians, same ones who split it with germans. lol
Rico8458 9 months ago 2
It is a fact that Hitler and Stalin was allied between 1939-1941.Hitler could not have fought war in the west without oil and minerals from ussr,a fact the russians er kean to forget,they only remember after Stalingrad.
But there is no doubt that the russians where the defeater of nazi germany.80% of the german army losses where on the eastern front.And in 1944 only 20% of the wehrmacht were fighting in France.
Remenber the old saying: "The first casualty in war is the truth".be skeptical in war
radisen58 9 months ago
The Americans beat the Nazi Germans and were nice enough to let the Russians go by and capture Berlin...
Riiiiigghhttt...Thats what they'll tell you here in the US just so we can look like mighty wonderful heroes.
GonzoeKb24 9 months ago
Is The Guy Narrating The Same Guy From Kings Quest 5 ( old pc game) ?
MapleBalls 10 months ago
what a waste of life
DraGorian777 11 months ago
Don't think history can repeat itself? I got an email blog about 'U.S. Concentration Camps,' quite scary. An a possible 'American' holocaust waiting to happen if the corruption does not end. And who will be the targeted ones? I really think these are the ones to be targeted: corrupt politics, church leaders, violent criminals, Muslims/Islams, special interest groups, illegals/Latinos, greedy/corrupt corporate executives/CEOs and civilians who support corrupt propagandas and organizations.
ScorpioBornIn69 1 year ago
@ScorpioBornIn69 Have you watched Zombie flicks or some outbreak of a virus? Thats the purpose of this camps. To contain the virus. Sounds shocking, but it''s the truth.
texas224 1 year ago
So ironic to hear these Red Army idiots talking about the Germans like that since the USSR and Stalin are responsible for well over 50+ million more murders than Hitler and Germany during that time period.
HokiesAndDawgs 1 year ago
@HokiesAndDawgs
How was the USSR responsible for 50 million more deaths that the Germans in that period? You are wrong, my friend. Where did you get those numbers?
Troublesome2008 11 months ago
@Troublesome2008
You, my friend, are wrong. You can get the numbers from a number of different sources. The USSR was the definition of scum and as an American, we should have been allies with the Germans.
HokiesAndDawgs 11 months ago
@HokiesAndDawgs
Please name a source. I think you just made up a number, because you are very wrong. Stalin killed in total 20 million of his own people. He did that in 31 years. The nazi's killed many more people, and they did it in only six years. They killed 12 million Russian civilians, 5 million Polish civilians, 8 million Sovjet soldiers, 6 million Jews and many, many more.
Troublesome2008 11 months ago
They said that 1 milion of Jews were killed in Auschwitz....but Rudolf Hoess
Auschwitz 's commander confessed that 2,5 million of Jews died in gas chambers
Who's right ? ......Who's wrong ?
Coldgin94 1 year ago 2
Ich liebe WW2
sheriselitz8814nazis 1 year ago
Stephen Ambrose a "pseudo historian"? Is that anything like you being a pseudo idiot?
Stephen Ambrose has done something important with his life, can YOU say the same?
ddd1953 1 year ago
Stephen Ambrose a "pseudo historian"? Is that anything like you being a pseudo idiot?
ddd1953 1 year ago
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arsebank 1 year ago
"I didn't expect to see an oven made to burn people". Is he really shocked to see a crematorium? They had those in Soviet Russia and in England and in France long before Hitler was even born. It was accepted, with the exception of a few Catholics, all over Europe.
naltrexone23X 1 year ago
@naltrexone23X - And don't forget what the British did during the Boer War in South Africa. The idea of concentration camps came, as you said, long before Hitler was born. I bet you've never heard of Lord Kitchener.
Jhoxi1972 1 year ago
@Jhoxi1972 Commander in the Second Boer war, he created Concentration camps to uproot the entire Boer civilian popultion.
MusikAndLuv 1 year ago
"Twelve thousand prisoners were gassed per day." There is no evidence to support this ridiculous number. The use of gas chambers is widely disputed as no real gas chamber was ever found.
astranine 1 year ago
@astranine The only gas chamber I see here is Ambrose's empty skull.
naltrexone23X 1 year ago
i like killing germans on the west of the rhine, not enough though
rockynanach 1 year ago
Hey,That guy @ 6:49-6:55 he looks really familiar on the special edition of Saving Private Ryan!
yz85go 1 year ago
Stalin make a deal with Hitler?? At that late stage in the war?? You have to be kidding. By 1945, the Nazis have NOTHING to offer the Soviets. Basically, anything the Soviets want, they can just take it by force. That really is selective history from Mr Ambrose as he ignores the fact that the Nazis tried at diff times at 1945 to establish a separate peace with the WESTERN ALLIES!!
dommy531 1 year ago 2
@dommy531 Stalin suxs shit!!!!!!!
yz85go 1 year ago
Stalin cut a deal with Hitler at that stage of the war? Get Real, Not a chance in Hell. Typical American, take all the credit, self-glorification nonsense by Ambrose.
HYHK 1 year ago 17
@HYHK Yes, Germany was defeated by the time of the Ardense Offensive, so a division between the allies would have had little effect on the outcome of the war. However, don't forget the contribution made by the US which kept Russia in the war. Massive aid by the US to Russia and the UK kept both allies fighting and bought valuable time. Bombing German cities kept German war production down and the US's war with Japan greatly helped Russia by keeping japan out of Siberia.
astranine 11 months ago
@HYHK
that's not what he said you useless pikey
aallppiinnee 9 months ago
@HYHK Hitler did cut a deal with Stalin in 1939, Adolf Hitler invited Communism into Europe as Allies, The Nazis and Communist invaded nations as friends and had victory parades, The Soviets supplied the Nazis with resources,supplies to use against the Allies, There were even Soviet supplies used in Operation Barberossa, The Soviets were invaded with the Axis using Soviets supplies!!!
martynrobin121 4 months ago
germans had to show and teach yanks a lesson and show them what they could do to them if they had more supplies. lol.
Rico8458 1 year ago
Stalin was too busy starving the Ukraines to death and killing his own political enemies to concentrate on an all out attack on germany, luckily he had some real help from the allies to overcome Germany..
reldditmot 2 years ago
"12,000 were gassed each day"... There's a reason these "reports" were dismissed as Soviet propaganda: They were.
Seriously, gas chambers? Bwahahahah.
BadgerinSC 2 years ago
Because you said so
sansez 2 years ago
@BadgerinSC Sovet propaganda claimed outlandish amounts were gassed per day, and that 3 million died at Auschwitz. THOSE claims were soviet propaganda, and by many were dismissed as such.
Once tensions cooled down during the cold war, and the reds let the west carry out some realistic, proper examinations of the killing sites, the numbers were reduced.
And with 5 gas chambers at Birkenau, each capable of holding 1,000 people at once, with 15 minutes needed to kill all inside, it's possible.
DayveIsh 1 year ago
The Last Days of World War 2: Death of the Reich is the full title
outworlderohlendorf 2 years ago
Is this compilation of documentarie's or one film, if it is jsut one please tell me it's original name.. thanks in advance...
proevo1 2 years ago
It should make you wonder how many truths about America's crimes since the end of WW2 were dismissed as 'Soviet Propaganda' ...
fredhubner 2 years ago
Historian wanna-bes and schicklgrubers alike abound in these YouTube video message boards with their hypothetical worlds of 'could', 'should', 'would' and, last but not least, IFs ...
fredhubner 2 years ago
Shit doc, any doc that uses pseudo historians like Stephen Ambrose will always be a joke.
"Stalin may have cut a deal with the Nazis"
Utter bollocks without any basis in fact. Stalin had amassed 13 armies on the Polish border. At that point in the war, with or without the Brits/U.S the Russians would have contiued and won against the Germans.
Kralhonj 2 years ago 12
@Kralhonj
So you're a commie?
TaqiyyaExposer 1 year ago
@Kralhonj pseudo historian lol where the fuck have you been did youlike the world at war series from the early 70s ambrose was used on that a lot tooooooo i think the bell just rang you better go back to class............
atltom58 1 year ago
@atltom58 Your hero Ambrose plagiarized his doctoral thesis and spent his entire career as an apologist for the failings of U.S inter-war foreign policy. Cheap jibes are probably your intellectual strong point, so I don’t plan any long Youtube correspondence with you.
Ciao
Kralhonj 1 year ago
@Kralhonj hes not my hero you are definately an uneducated dumbass dont fuck with people that you dont know about kid...........what a troller
atltom58 1 year ago
@Kralhonj
haha what? If it was just germany vs russia, germany would have annihilated russia from the face of earth, germany took on too much at the end, thats why they were defeated.
FlusherD12 1 year ago
@FlusherD12 Germany took on too much in the beginning; 22 June 1941 when they invaded Russia and opened a WAR ON 2 FRONTS. From that date the war was lost. As to whether a war fought just between Germany and Russia would have ended with a victory for Germany we’ll never know..thankfully.
Kralhonj 1 year ago
@Kralhonj
yea that's what i said, what I can't stand is when they say that Britain won the war, hahaha I laugh everytime i hear that, the only thing they mananged to was not get invaded in the first year when america did not intervene
FlusherD12 1 year ago
13 million Russian civilians murdered,a deal with Hitler was fantasy
gbyrne 2 years ago
Hmm pretty strange idea that Stalin would have considered to make peace with Hitler if the Germans had reached Antwerp.
The western Allies would have been in deep shit yeah... but it would not have ment a full scale retreat to Britain.
And even if the west was forced to retreat to Britain then Stalin would still been able to handle Germany alone on the long term.
Clausewitzz 2 years ago 4
not bad, but absolutely chock-full of little inaccuracies..
HooksGambit 2 years ago 3
As absolutely always...
fearnoevilexceptbush 2 years ago
i love history
sharrodb427 2 years ago 2
Thanks for posting this series. I'd never seen this one! Some very interesting details that I hadn't seen elsewhere in WW2 documentaries. Cheers!
randy109 2 years ago
sik
mattyo30 2 years ago