@Shmulye "." What proof - PERSONAL proof - do you have behind your faith?" Don't ask them that. You already know they are going to go into supernatural mode. They are going to make their entire story based around the assumption that a God exists, and they will make it sound like it is impossible, like if it was the full story, when most likely it isn't. .
Every time I see a religious person try to prove god with "faith" I die a little on the inside. You would think that as intelligent as humans are, we'd be able to avoid creating a mass fairy tale to explain our lives. Besides, science explains just about everything that religious people try and fail to explain.
It's not about belief, it's about faith. If my friend who I haven't seen today tells me she's wearing a blue dress I believe her even though I can't see the dress. I have faith that she is telling me the truth. Why can't people accept and respect what another person chooses to believe or not believe about god. Let it go and find something else to fuss over - Talk about something that matters like how to help the homeless, or abused children, the unemployed, battered women - I'm must saying.
@aetl100 I respect your RIGHT to believe in whatever you want, but I dont respect the belief itself because its irrational to believe in something without evidence. You say its about faith, ok then you are admitting you are taking something as truth with no evidence since that is the definition of faith but how do you know its true and how would you determine that? Different claims require different evidence. You assess a claim based on its merits, a blue dress requires less evidence than a god.
@aetl100 Ha, faith. That's basically saying, "I denounce all reason and place my belief in nonsense a stranger has taught me." What proof - PERSONAL proof - do you have behind your faith? You need to watch this video and listen to what she's saying. In this case there is NOTHING about god that makes him any different from the dragon she mentions.
@tlsmith1138 What does any of that have to do with believing in an invisible, intangible, all loving deity in the sky??? If there is no way to observe it with any of the senses, or detect it with any of our detection equipment, then there is no REASON to believe its there anyway other than wishful thinking. Why is it better for people to believe in God than to believe in 4th dimension space aliens? They both cannot be observed, sensed, or detected. So why believe in one and not the other?
A pretty lady who could have shorten her response to about 15 seconds. Prove there is, prove there isn't, all losing propositions. A blind man who only believes what he can touch, won't believe very much. A blind, limbless man who only believes in what he can taste, will believe even less. If I believe the air I breath is a mix of gases and not one, it is because someone tells me it is. I don't demand they separate the gases before my eyes so I can believe.
atheists push people away from faith ,in return they give the emptiness of heart and nothing .They think they are wise,pride ,and that they are owe everything of themselves ,that raise from nothing and later they will be nothing again :-)) ,,The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall .goodness and love does not come from nothingness. START from ,,The Divine Mercy Devotion? - EWTN ,, find it on google
@Noobstur323 Have you ever considered that maybe we've already lived that life? "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." 1 John 4:8" What about those who love, but don't believe in God? Will you say that we aren't capable of love?? "because when the day comes "every knee will bow before God; and every tongue will confess to God" Ok so God will force us against our will to bow to him. That's not us acknowledging respect. Your God is evil and thankfully doesn't exist.
@Romerosays No, God is a logical paradox according to te principles of LOGIC!! And the God you speak of isn't the God of anything because it doesn't exist! If a God does exist, it isn't that one!
@BlueBull373 " "The devil would do anything to make you not belive and even hate God" I would have to believe in God in order to hate it. But if your God were real I most likely would hate it. Answer this for me, how many people has the devil killed compared to God according to scripture? Do you know?
@Romerosays "Go tell the Jews their history then, you could even rewrite their history for them, what a guy!" Wtf do you keep bringing up the Jews history for??? That is irrelevant! And what does that have to do with the strict principles of logic?? You don't even seem to care that your God is a logical paradox and can be demonstrated as such!
@sexyAllen4u "Wtf do you keep bringing up the Jews history for"....Hey big expert, the God of the Bible is the God of the Jews in case that hasn't clicked yet. It has plenty relevance, more so than you realise. The Jews have an extraordinary history, one that cannot be explained on any ordinary principles. There is plenty logic and reason for the nation of Israel to be where they are now. "God is a logical paradox"...Yeah, in the eyes of blind fools.
@Romerosays "All you did was ignore my explanation, gave me no reason why it could not be possible and cried INTERPRETATION ALERT" Because that's what it is. A difference in interpretation. Based on my own perception, I dont get the same message as you. I've been over that scripture enough times to know it without even looking at it. Your understanding of it is simply different. And I told you that neither one of our interpretations is right over the other. The authors can't confirm either view!
@sexyAllen4u Come on, where's the logical explanation for John 1:1. Perception has nothing to do with translation. If John 1:1 is based on "perception" and not correct translation, then it contradicts many other scriptures as your beloved doctrine of the trinity does. To assume Jesus was by God's side before creation is Illogical and has no merit in God's plan and purpose with mankind.
Not beliveing in Jesus Christ tells me that you have a eptyness inside of you that you can't explain. It's a void feeling of lonleyness, and no matter what you do or get, nothing can ever feel that void. It is the result of disobediance from the fall of man, you are spiritually dead, a walking zombie. You have no life in you, everything is vanity. Belief in Christ brings The Holy Spirit. He gives you life. The world says give me proff an I'll believe, God says believe and I will give you proff.
"Not beliveing in Jesus Christ tells me that you have a eptyness inside of you that you can't explain."
Your belief in your fairy tale tells me that you have an emptiness inside of your head that you can't explain, since that emptiness is where your brain should be.
Christianity defies human nature: from an atheists point of view christianity would simply have been created by a man. But, if you were to make a religion would you make every natural instinct a sin? Also, it defies society, at the time of course the dominent societies were Roman and Jewish, they were nothing like the Christian philosophy. Jesus, should have been susceptable to his human nature and those societies, but he wasnt. My point is, no mere human could do what Jesus did.
@Schism704 Nicely said and recognised. If man made up the story of Christ, he would be full of fault. He would be painted as a stud, gold chains around his neck, a babe of each arm and so on. It just goes to show that corruption cannot write about incorruption, that the scriptures were moved by the spirit, and NOT by man.
Well Just know that there is a God Jesus loves you and if you accept him as your savior you will prove that there is a God, and then you can post a new video!
@Romerosays When I said your not convincing anyone, I meant anyone who uses logic, reason, and rational thought. I am retiring this foolish circular argument. It's going nowhere. And you can believe in imaginary fairy gods if u like. But you are wasting your life. The God of Abraham is false. This is logical fact! Using the strict premise of logic your God is NOT real, and cannot logically exist.
@sexyAllen4u ".... anyone who uses logic, reason, and rational thought"......Maybe you should use some of that when interpreting scripture, especially when it came to discussing John 1:1. All you did was ignore my explanation, gave me no reason why it could not be possible and cried INTERPRETATION ALERT, no reasoning and logic there on your part AGAIN as usual. "I am retiring this foolish circular argument"....I new you couldn't stick with it!
@sexyAllen4u "The God of Abraham is false. This is logical fact! Using the strict premise of logic your God is NOT real, and cannot logically exist"....Go tell the Jews their history then, you could even rewrite their history for them, what a guy!
TRIBULATION IS NOW, the worlds birth pains have begun, we have entered into a time phase described in the Bible as "a time such as there never was" as the battle against Israel draws near, so does the return of Messiah. As trade wars and currency wars continue to mount, so will the desperation of nations be caused to "rise up against another". The Bible has been %100 correct in it's prophecy concerning the people of Israel and word events to this day, it's a foolish mistake to deny it now.
@Romerosays "yes I can, they are NOT of my faith whatsoever!" Yes they are and nothing you say will EVER change that! You are the one in denial. And you are the one that will continually commit the No True Scottsman logical fallacy,thus discrediting your position. And all the rest of what you are saying is based on YOUR INTERPRETATION!!Your personal PERCEPTION! They believed in the same bible you do, and they followed the same God you do. So they were Christians regardless if you agree or not!
@sexyAllen4u "And all the rest of what you are saying is based on YOUR INTERPRETATION!!Your personal PERCEPTION!"....Rubbish, rather than talk shit, why don't you learn to read it properly, maybe you should study Hebrew and Creek rather than say whats there when its not. "they were Christians regardless"...Bullshit! Define a Christian.
@Romerosays All you are doing is crying context. And your only defense seems to be that you will MAKE yourself believe that I never studied scripture. You will try to convince yourself that NO ONE IN THE FUCKING WORLD besides Romerosays and his ilk, understand the bible! You are arrogant!!! And this is the reason why I KNOW that religion is NOT the way to finding the answer!! EVERYONE thinks THEY are right, and NO EVIDENCE confirms THEIR views!
@sexyAllen4u What you don't realise is that you have been taught by the church of Rome, wither you choose to believe it or not your faith was contaminated from the beginning by false doctrines of hell torments, satanism, immortal souls, heaven bound, multiple god's, etc, etc. Your brainwashed by it, as you still think that the Bible teaches it.
@Romerosays "What you don't realise is that you have been taught by the church of Rome" Although you are wrong, what difference does it make? You cannot prove to ANYONE that YOUR views of the fucking bible are greater than ANYONE ELSE'S!! It is based on PERCEPTION not FACTS!! Not actual HISTORICAL RECORD! Not REALITY!!! And the authors are NOT here to confirm their true meaning behind what was written! And I don't believe in ANY OF IT DUMBASS!! I'm not brainwashed YOU ARE!!
@sexyAllen4u "Although you are wrong".....Words that need backing up I see! "You cannot prove to ANYONE that YOUR views of the fucking bible are greater than ANYONE ELSE'S"...I've proved it to many and have baptised many. Your still brainwashed, your reaction are the scares that's testimony to it!
@sexyAllen4u "A person who professes to believe in Jesus, and follow the teachings".... Very good, since you stated "That sword, created MILITANT Christians that caused the Inquisitions, and Crusades!"...So do you think these people practise the teaching of Jesus, to "Love thy neighbour"?
TRIBULATION IS NOW, the worlds birth pains have begun, we have entered into a time phase described in the Bible as "a time such as there never was" as the battle against Israel draws near, so does the return of Messiah. As trade wars and currency wars continue to mount, so will the desperation of nations be caused to "rise up against another". The Bible has been %100 correct in it's prophecy concerning the people of Israel and word events to this day, it's a foolish mistake to deny it now.
HEY ATHEISTS, ever wondered why your just never able to get a grasp on Christ.... Jesus said "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him... " John 6:44. To cut a long storey short, God simply don't want shit in his coming Kingdom!!!!! Now go invest in a shovel and start digging your grave, lets face it, in the long run, permanent death is all you have to look forward too, thats the reality you should be preaching. Updated version 1.5 =^_^=
ATTENTION GOD SCOFFERS! Keep turning it up, and help fulfil Bible prophecy for these end times. 2 Peter 3:3 However, I must commend you on your excellent work so far in the art of ignorance, blasphemy's and suchlike, toward God. I'll be looking forward to NOT seeing you in the coming Kingdom Era! Please don't let this post discourage you from continuing under the guidance of your fleshly SELF SERVING ways.
"SHOULD I BE AN ATHEIST" Not while my arse points to the ground.....Imagine having no lasting hope and guidance to the light of immortality in this death infected world, with no promise of real lasting peace, along with murderers, rapist's, thieves, etc, just all brainless fools continually breeding in a endless cycle, NO THANKS! After all, someone's got to inherit everlasting death, all you Godless, and your atheist buddy's can and will, have that gig!
Actually, I feel sorry for you who do believe in God. Ever since I broke away from the Christian life I couldn't ask for anything else more. I'm actually more happier. Now, if there was a real God, I'm pretty sure that if I didn't beleive my life would be horrible. But you see, it's not. It's amazing, I'm better off without God.
@HipHopBreaker12 It doesn't work like that,not because your life isn't horrible that means that your disbelief is the right choice...you have decided to ignore, rather than disbelieve in, the one who created you, has been so gracious to you (even if you cannot see it) and has the ability to end your life in a blink of an eye and put you in another life where you'll be questioned for what you've done here (just like everyone else), now that could turn into a horrible life
@sexyAllen4u "So u wish bad towards me because of our differences"...Why would I wish you bad, where did I wish you bad. Telling you whats coming around the corner and your reaction to it isn't wishing you bad at all.
@sexyAllen4u I really feel bad about you, you cant understand it ;) Dont want to offend u or something just sayin, but I hope you found out what the truth is before you fuckin die cause after that its too late :)
@BlueBull373 And why should I care to find it before I die? Is it so your cruel and unjust God won't punish me and torture me forever for something as small as what I believe in??? I feel bad for your children who you teach this bullshit to. You teach them to be good not because it is good, but to keep THEMSELVES from eternal suffering. Its about YOU!! It isn't about anyone else!! Your good because YOU desire gifts after death! That is SELFISH and definately not genuine!
@sexyAllen4u Its not about being good man first of all I dont got kids second I did some pretty fucked up shit third its about me? Well I love God and he loves me and u can actualy feel it :) Jesus is more of a relationship and salvation than a religion. I know it sounds fucked up to a nonbeliver like yourself and my "cruel and unjust God" dont want to punish you for anything he wants to forgive you ANYTHING, he made you so you could live with him forever.
@sexyAllen4u "The devil would do anything to make you not belive and even hate God" seems like he did a good job with you. Anyway, I cant explain it to you you cant understand. Dont get mad brother its just that I belive and you dont.
@sexyAllen4u Dude, I have go now and play some drums with my mate from the band "dead letter circus" look them up on you tube, they just toured the U.S. in december, I know its not your style, but see what you think since your into music also.
@Romerosays Whoever you are about to tell me is based on(here it comes) INTERPRETATION!! I want to know who you THINK God is referring to. I'm positive I believe differently based upon my own studies of scripture.
@Romerosays To me, it's ALL bullshit! So you tell me, who was your imaginary friend referring to?? Who else's image are we created in besides your God's?
HERE IS YOUR BEST PROOF THAT NO GOD EXISTS; JUST VIEW THE LOW DOWN BASTARDS THAT HE ALLOWS TO DO HIS WORK ON EARTH THEN LETS THEM LIVE TO A GRAND OLD AGE. ALL THE WHILE SPILLING SPERM AND SEWAGE LIKE SOME DEMENTED ONANIST.
RUINING THE LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE LIKE IT IS THEIR SACRED DUTY. AND TO BECOME GODS THEMSELVES : ABUSING DIMWITS AND CHILDREN.
@Romerosays Romerosays SO YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THOSE LOWDOWN SPERM AND SEWAGE SPILLING ONANISTS AGAIN ROMERSAYS. {YOU DON'T KNOW (NO) WHAT'S COMING} [KNOW PUN INTENDED.]AND THIS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD THAT YOU TELL TO CHILDREN .
@Romerosays "Another fallacy, Jesus is and never was God."
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So from what i'm reading here. The word was WITH God and WAS God. And the word became FLESH! Hmmm
@sexyAllen4u Ok lets play, hopefully you will stick with it! "John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God" Jesus is NOT literally the word, HE was the word "MADE flesh" logos translated "word" expresses intention, mind, or purpose. It was God's intention or purpose from "In the beginning" to bring Christ into the world. When did this happen? Not in the beginning, but "this day I have begotten thee" Acts13:33..cont
This does not prove that Jesus is God, but that Jesus was in the mind, plan and purpose of God in the beginning and "manifested in these last times" 1 Pet 1:20
@Romerosays According to your bible, a talking snake and a burning bush also exists. Do you have any UNBIASED OUTSIDE sources that back up your bible?
@Romerosays "It wasn't a talking bush, it was a burning bush where the voice appeared from" Therefore the voice came from the burning bush you moron!.....hence a TALKING burning bush!!!
@Romerosays Ok a voice that happens to come from a burning bush!! Is that not a talking bush!! Whats the difference between a talking burning bush and a burning bush with a voice? If the voice comes from a bush, its a talking bush.......Apply your logic MORON!!!!!
@talover403 "Ok a voice that happens to come from a burning bush!!"...... You can't see God right, so the direction of God's voice appeared to come from the bush. Kapesh' Why is it talking to you blokes is like talking to retards, nothing is simple that should be.
@Romerosays You havent proven to me that any god exists yet remember? The bible could have very well said a voice from a burning apple tree! And why cant believers SEE god but they sure as hell can HEAR god? You are digging youself an even deeper hole! How do you know what your god's voice sounds like? "Why is it talking to you blokes is like talking to retards, nothing is simple that should be." Because your logic IS retarded not to mention demented because you follow a demented book!
@talover403 "The bible could have very well said a voice from a burning apple tree!"... would it make any difference if it did? "How do you know what your god's voice sounds like?"...I don't, and didn't say I did. I'm telling you what the Bible says, because you seem so sure you know it. Not my fault you have a problem with "getting it"
@Romerosays I got it......I just dont believe it because its NOT rational!! Its not my fault that you are letting a fallocious book hinder your rationality just because you like it which you believe to be truthful. If you cared about what you believe to be true, you would not only question it but compare it to rational thought. Making a special appeal to ANY biblical text is foolish and serves as a dogmatic view of what you believe the truth to be and stops you from finding real truths.
@talover403 Just to think, they are willing to accept extraordinary claims from a book that talks about burning bushes with voices coming out of them, talking donkeys and serpents, men living in fish, stars falling to earth, 6 day creation of the universe, all without evidence. But then tell them that the big bang caused the expansion of the universe, or that we evolved from a common ancestor with the chimps, and support it with tons of evidence, and then it's so unbelievable.lol
@sexyAllen4u Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution. Thats is because they have used up all their belief with their assbackwards version of what they consider truth. The hits just keep coming!!
@talover403 And they will keep getting deflected like bugs on a windshield. Until they provide real REASON for their beliefs. And I will continue to logically debunk every single one of their arguments. They need something new. Hmmmmm.......maybe some evidence.lol
@Romerosays Hurry up what? And weren't we supposed to be on John 1? What happened to that? You never answered my question. Who is being referred to in John 1 as the Word?
@sexyAllen4u God was not talking to himself, remember there is no other god beside him, he was talking to someone else. Since the Trinity is bullshit, that makes the holy spirit not a person, so who do you think God could of been talking to.
If that is true, his first commandment seems totally unnecessary. If there are no other gods, then he must be pretty stupid to tell us we "shall not have any OTHER gods before him." Is your imaginary god stupid?
@talover403 "Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution"...We don't, we just admire your faith in it, you got truck loads more than us.
@Romerosays "We don't, we just admire your faith in it, you got truck loads more than us." Really? Because that would mean we don't have evidence. Since faith is belief held without evidence. But we have tons of it. So I guess faith means something else then.
@sexyAllen4u "Because that would mean we don't have evidence".....You only got theory's that forever keep changing from when it first started, todays facts is tomorrows history superseded by new one's.
@Romerosays Scientific theory is not the same as the layman's theory. How many times must we relay that same information to you? Scientific theory is BASED on facts and is the BEST explanation available to explain a certain phenomena. Gravity=theory, law of motion=theory, laws of physics=theory, evolution=theory. And they rarely change. But they are consistently developed, tweeked, and refined based on new evidence. Bible does not, and is inconsistent with new evidence=fail.
@Romerosays "Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution"...We don't, we just admire your faith in it, you got truck loads more than us." This is NOT something we are taking on faith. When you have evidence, faith is irrlevant and is NOT needed or used. YOU are the one with faith, NOT us!
Actually, I know most christians to be quite decent and honest people, even if they tell themselves that it's okay to hold unsubstantiated and unsubstantiable beliefs.
It's not christians who lie: it's creationists, another thing entirely. Christians worship Jesus. Creationists worship a book.
@Romerosays "It wasn't a talking bush, it was a burning bush where the voice appeared from." Uhh,,,,yea, and we know talking voices don't come out of burning bushes. And we also know that bushes become consumed when burned.lol
@Romerosays "This does not prove that Jesus is God, but that Jesus was in the mind, plan and purpose of God in the beginning and "manifested in these last times" 1 Pet 1:20" INTERPRETATION ALERT!! INTERPRETATION ALERT!!
@sexyAllen4u Sorry, your the one with a translation problem. Jesus was God's intention/logos In the beginning, later becoming flesh. Why is this not reasonable? If God knew Jeremiah before he formed him in the belly, then why not Christ? "BEFORE I FORMED THEE in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" (Jeremiah 1:5) ...cont
@Romerosays "Sorry, your the one with a translation problem. Jesus was God's intention/logos In the beginning, later becoming flesh." INTERPRETATION ALERT!! INTERPRETATION ALERT!!
@sexyAllen4u Come on your going to have to do better than that, crying "INTERPRETATION ALERT" is acknowledging my explanation, but rather weaselling out from it!
@Romerosays There is no need. You cannot convince me that your bible does not say Jesus was God. It doesn't put the phrase together like that. But it says it in many ways. ESPECIALLY by referring Jesus as the WORD OF GOD, who according to John 1, IS GOD!! But lets go back to the beginning. Doesn't your ONE God say let US create man in OUR image??? But I thought he was one God? How can he refer to his self in plural????
@sexyAllen4u "You cannot convince me that your bible does not say Jesus was God."...Jesus being God is an inferred upon only by the Trinitarian, not by scripture. Since the Bible was complied by Trinitarians, logos translated as "word" was better suited to their established beliefs, to replace it logos with intention, or purpose would not do their doctrine justice.
@sexyAllen4u "But lets go back to the beginning. Doesn't your ONE God say let US create man in OUR image?"....Let me ask you a question. Other than God and Jesus, who else bears the image and likeness of man, that could of been there at creation?
@Romerosays "Let me ask you a question. Other than God and Jesus, who else bears the image and likeness of man, that could of been there at creation?" You havent proven creation took place. You just keep asserting it with NO evidence!
@Romerosays You mean I am not willing to play your little bible game with you right? Dude, you live in your little game dont you? Are you that afraid of facing the real world that you have to cower behind a book of heresay and fantasy?
@Romerosays "Let me ask you a question. Other than God and Jesus, who else bears the image and likeness of man, that could of been there at creation?" Oh so when God says in his image he DOES mean appearance?? HMM.....So if we find intelligent species elsewhere and they look nothing like us, will you stop preaching then? And the Holy Spirit is your answer. But don't ask a question with the question. Why did he refer to himself in Plural??
..."Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you"( 1 Peter 1:20)....Can you see a resemblance? or do you think Jeremiah is God also?
@sexyAllen4u Dude there's something wrong with you, your not playing with the full deck. Jeremiah had free will and practised it, God knew it before it happened and told Jeremiah after the fact. CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS??????? How else do you think prophecy is possible?
@Romerosays "God knew it before it happened and told Jeremiah after the fact." Therefore he did not have free will. it was exactly what God foresaw happening before ever creating him. You cannot get around that using logic. You won't get around it. No logical person will let you. If his free will was known it was not free. It was predetermined!! Just because HE didn't know it is irrelevant. the fact it was KNOWN strips him of his free will! Strips us all! It is just an illusion!
@sexyAllen4u The future is already known by God before it happens, you can't explain the prophecies of the bible any other way. If you decide to end your life tonight, then thats your choice, not God's. God does not control your actions, only you do. Just because he know's what your going to do, doesn't automatically make you do it.
@Romerosays "The future is already known by God before it happens, you can't explain the prophecies of the bible any other way" So then you have no choice but to concede that my will is not free. Before God put me here, he knew my fate. I'm just along for the ride. In my HEAD, my will seems free, but everything I do was predetermined. No way around it. And YES, if God knows my actions he MADE me do it by CREATING ME!!! All of my actions are then INNEVITABLE! FAIL again!
@sexyAllen4u "Before God put me here, he knew my fate. I'm just along for the ride. In my HEAD, my will seems free, but everything I do was predetermined."....Are you serious? Think back who made all the decisions in your life when you left mummy and daddy. It was you, wasn't it. Everything is foreknown by God, but if you want to jump in front of a moving bus, then be my guest.
TRIBULATION IS NOW, the worlds birth pains have begun, we have entered into a time phase described in the Bible as "a time such as there never was" as the battle against Israel draws near, so does the return of Messiah. As trade wars and currency wars continue to mount, so will the desperation of nations be caused to "rise up against another". The Bible has been %100 correct in it's prophecy concerning the people of Israel and word events to this day, it a foolish mistake to deny it now.
@Romerosays "it a foolish mistake to deny it now." A foolish mistake? Aren't you the one that believes when the unbelievers die, they simply stop existing? Isn't that equivalent to what atheists think will happen after we die anyway? Why would we want to start believing your bible so that we can live forever worshipping that sadistic, genocidal, child murdering tyrant??? I'd MUCH rather cease to exist thanks. And still no talking serpents or donkeys. So....
@sexyAllen4u "Aren't you the one that believes when the unbelievers die, they simply stop existing?"...Thats correct, but I don't see the relation to that of my statement. I think you've missed the point here.
@Romerosays I wasn't responding to the point you were making there. I was making a point to that statement. There is nothing for us to do if we don't want to have anything to do with that God you believe in. I believe that your God is evil beyond reconciliation. I would NEVER serve him if he did exist. So i'm better off not believing in it. Get me? Not saying that is the reason I don't believe though.
@Romerosays "then what bad did Jesus do or teach for that matter?" Do you really want me to list them for you? Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20..........Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12
@talover403 Dude you make me laugh! "Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell"....Understand what the hell of the Bible is first before you shit on Jesus. "Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell" ....Come on! Parables were given because they didn't see nor understood, it was for those "that are without" verse 11. I think your the one who's confused!!!
@Romerosays Jesus was just as evil. He states that no man can get to the father but through him. Therefore, nobody, no matter how good they were in life, can be accepted into God's kingdom, and will be rejected. that is unjust. Secondly, he stated that he came not to bring peace, but a sword. That sword, created MILITANT Christians that caused the Inquisitions, and Crusades! And he died and knew he would come back, yet calls it a SACRIFICE??? Bitch please!! SOLDIERS SACRIFICE!!
@sexyAllen4u "created MILITANT Christians that caused the Inquisitions, and Crusades!...Piss off with this false Christianity. "And he died and knew he would come back, yet calls it a SACRIFICE???.....Do you even know what was sacrificed. I doubt you know!!
@Romerosays "Piss off with this false Christianity." No True Scottsman fallacy. You cannot cut off a certain group of members in your faith because you don't agree with their actions. That does not mean they didn't believe in the same religion. Nor does that mean they weren't Christians! FAIL! "Do you even know what was sacrificed. I doubt you know!!" Then enlighten me.
@sexyAllen4u "You cannot cut off a certain group of members in your faith because you don't agree with their actions."...yes I can, they are NOT of my faith whatsoever! and the sacrifice Jesus made was not giving his life as such, but sacrificed practising the desires and ways of the carnal flesh to deaths end. Even if he knew he would die and come back, it still was a burden on his shoulders to achieve. No one else has achieved it to this day, to die sinless, to be without spot and blemish.
@Romerosays And 1 Timothy 3:16 states clearly that GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, believed on in the world, and recieved up into glory!! GOD!! It's right there!! PLAIN AS DAY!!! I told you I know that bible like the back of my head!! How YOU interpret it is simply different, based upon personal perception, who taught you, and what you were raised to believe. My interpretation varies from yours. But niether one is correct over the other!
@sexyAllen4u "Ok John 1. Who was the word?".....The word was God's word in the beginning, it was the Logos/intention of God that LATER became flesh and dwelt among us. Its not rocket science!
@Romerosays "The word was God's word in the beginning, it was the Logos/intention of God that LATER became flesh and dwelt among us." Words are not flesh. Nor do they become flesh. It was figurative speech that referred to Jesus Christ. It only makes sense because that is what the entire story was about. The coming of the messiah. But that's based on my perception. Yours is no better than mine.
HEY ATHEISTS, ever wondered why your just never able to get a grasp on Christ.... Jesus said "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him... " John 6:44. To cut a long storey short, God simply don't want shit in his coming Kingdom!!!!! Now go invest in a shovel and start digging your grave, lets face it, in the long run, permanent death is all you have to look forward too, thats the reality you should be preaching. Updated version 1.5 =^_^=
@FourDeuce01 hey if you watched the video even the girl said she can"t prove that God does not exist? Can u prove He doesn't? Look around u,who created those trees? Do you even know how the sun rises n how it sets. Do u even know the number of hair on your head. No.But God does know. God created u to enjoy His love. I know you believe in Him but you just denied it. Only stupid people wear that shirt. I am not stupid when I'm with God. It says in the bible Psalm 14"Only fools say there is no God"
I don't need to, and neither does anybody else. Since none of you fairy tale believers has EVER been able to prove any gods exist, there is no need for anybody to prove otherwise.
"who created those trees?"
I did. Can you prove I didn't?
"But God does know"
I realize you may be a silly child, but even silly children should learn how to think. You can't claim your fairy tale god knows anything until you prove it exists.
@FourDeuce01 "I realize you may be a silly child, but even silly children should learn how to think".. .I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it. Luke 18:17. Bet that went way over your head!
@Romerosays 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
That kinda looks like Jesus was God. I'm sure God the father never came to earth. According to your bible, his very presence would kill us. Right?lol
Then you can add that to the long list of things you believe you know, but don't really know. "It says in the bible Psalm 14"Only fools say there is no God""
It says in my bible, "Only fools quote their silly book of fairy tales to people who know better."
Can you prove Gandalf doesn't exist? Santa Claus? Harry Potter? I bet you can't prove any of them don't exist, so you must believe in them since YOU brought up that stupid argument. Either you believe they exist or you are a liar. Which is it?
@ all atheist...1 word "Ghost" and if your too busy,nieve or stubborn to search, then you should all just STFU !
theemrrandy1 15 minutes ago
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@Shmulye "." What proof - PERSONAL proof - do you have behind your faith?" Don't ask them that. You already know they are going to go into supernatural mode. They are going to make their entire story based around the assumption that a God exists, and they will make it sound like it is impossible, like if it was the full story, when most likely it isn't. .
sexyAllen4u 40 minutes ago
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sexyAllen4u 49 minutes ago
Every time I see a religious person try to prove god with "faith" I die a little on the inside. You would think that as intelligent as humans are, we'd be able to avoid creating a mass fairy tale to explain our lives. Besides, science explains just about everything that religious people try and fail to explain.
Shmulye 1 hour ago
It's not about belief, it's about faith. If my friend who I haven't seen today tells me she's wearing a blue dress I believe her even though I can't see the dress. I have faith that she is telling me the truth. Why can't people accept and respect what another person chooses to believe or not believe about god. Let it go and find something else to fuss over - Talk about something that matters like how to help the homeless, or abused children, the unemployed, battered women - I'm must saying.
aetl100 2 hours ago
@aetl100 I respect your RIGHT to believe in whatever you want, but I dont respect the belief itself because its irrational to believe in something without evidence. You say its about faith, ok then you are admitting you are taking something as truth with no evidence since that is the definition of faith but how do you know its true and how would you determine that? Different claims require different evidence. You assess a claim based on its merits, a blue dress requires less evidence than a god.
talover403 1 hour ago
@aetl100 Ha, faith. That's basically saying, "I denounce all reason and place my belief in nonsense a stranger has taught me." What proof - PERSONAL proof - do you have behind your faith? You need to watch this video and listen to what she's saying. In this case there is NOTHING about god that makes him any different from the dragon she mentions.
Shmulye 1 hour ago
@tlsmith1138 What does any of that have to do with believing in an invisible, intangible, all loving deity in the sky??? If there is no way to observe it with any of the senses, or detect it with any of our detection equipment, then there is no REASON to believe its there anyway other than wishful thinking. Why is it better for people to believe in God than to believe in 4th dimension space aliens? They both cannot be observed, sensed, or detected. So why believe in one and not the other?
sexyAllen4u 3 hours ago
A pretty lady who could have shorten her response to about 15 seconds. Prove there is, prove there isn't, all losing propositions. A blind man who only believes what he can touch, won't believe very much. A blind, limbless man who only believes in what he can taste, will believe even less. If I believe the air I breath is a mix of gases and not one, it is because someone tells me it is. I don't demand they separate the gases before my eyes so I can believe.
tlsmith1138 5 hours ago
@MrDxfan101 Santa Claus rides his sleigh with flying Reindeer. That's your proof right there.
sexyAllen4u 7 hours ago
His son walked the earth their is your proof right there
MrDxfan101 7 hours ago
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@MrDxfan101
"His son walked the earth their is your proof right there"
Harry Potter is the greatest wizard to ever attend Hogwarts. You believe in Harry Potter, don't you? I just gave you the proof of it.
FourDeuce01 3 hours ago
@FourDeuce01 "Harry Potter is the greatest wizard to ever attend Hogwarts"....in your dreams he is, not history, you know what history is don't you?
Romerosays 3 minutes ago
@MrDxfan101 Lol.
TheEpicFlojd97 39 minutes ago
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atheists push people away from faith ,in return they give the emptiness of heart and nothing .They think they are wise,pride ,and that they are owe everything of themselves ,that raise from nothing and later they will be nothing again :-)) ,,The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall .goodness and love does not come from nothingness. START from ,,The Divine Mercy Devotion? - EWTN ,, find it on google
kongo4527 8 hours ago
Faith will give you proof God exists.
0990noe 10 hours ago
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@0990noe
"Faith will give you proof God exists."
Not if you have a working brain.
FourDeuce01 3 hours ago
your stupid....
SwagKing1996 17 hours ago
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@Noobstur323 Have you ever considered that maybe we've already lived that life? "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." 1 John 4:8" What about those who love, but don't believe in God? Will you say that we aren't capable of love?? "because when the day comes "every knee will bow before God; and every tongue will confess to God" Ok so God will force us against our will to bow to him. That's not us acknowledging respect. Your God is evil and thankfully doesn't exist.
sexyAllen4u 19 hours ago
@Romerosays No, God is a logical paradox according to te principles of LOGIC!! And the God you speak of isn't the God of anything because it doesn't exist! If a God does exist, it isn't that one!
sexyAllen4u 22 hours ago
@BlueBull373 " "The devil would do anything to make you not belive and even hate God" I would have to believe in God in order to hate it. But if your God were real I most likely would hate it. Answer this for me, how many people has the devil killed compared to God according to scripture? Do you know?
sexyAllen4u 23 hours ago
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@Romerosays "Go tell the Jews their history then, you could even rewrite their history for them, what a guy!" Wtf do you keep bringing up the Jews history for??? That is irrelevant! And what does that have to do with the strict principles of logic?? You don't even seem to care that your God is a logical paradox and can be demonstrated as such!
sexyAllen4u 23 hours ago
@sexyAllen4u "Wtf do you keep bringing up the Jews history for"....Hey big expert, the God of the Bible is the God of the Jews in case that hasn't clicked yet. It has plenty relevance, more so than you realise. The Jews have an extraordinary history, one that cannot be explained on any ordinary principles. There is plenty logic and reason for the nation of Israel to be where they are now. "God is a logical paradox"...Yeah, in the eyes of blind fools.
Romerosays 22 hours ago
@Romerosays "All you did was ignore my explanation, gave me no reason why it could not be possible and cried INTERPRETATION ALERT" Because that's what it is. A difference in interpretation. Based on my own perception, I dont get the same message as you. I've been over that scripture enough times to know it without even looking at it. Your understanding of it is simply different. And I told you that neither one of our interpretations is right over the other. The authors can't confirm either view!
sexyAllen4u 23 hours ago
@sexyAllen4u Come on, where's the logical explanation for John 1:1. Perception has nothing to do with translation. If John 1:1 is based on "perception" and not correct translation, then it contradicts many other scriptures as your beloved doctrine of the trinity does. To assume Jesus was by God's side before creation is Illogical and has no merit in God's plan and purpose with mankind.
Romerosays 22 hours ago
@blackk141 "It's a void feeling of lonleyness, and no matter what you do or get, nothing can ever feel that void." You must not get out much.
sexyAllen4u 23 hours ago
Not beliveing in Jesus Christ tells me that you have a eptyness inside of you that you can't explain. It's a void feeling of lonleyness, and no matter what you do or get, nothing can ever feel that void. It is the result of disobediance from the fall of man, you are spiritually dead, a walking zombie. You have no life in you, everything is vanity. Belief in Christ brings The Holy Spirit. He gives you life. The world says give me proff an I'll believe, God says believe and I will give you proff.
blackk141 23 hours ago
@blackk141
"Not beliveing in Jesus Christ tells me that you have a eptyness inside of you that you can't explain."
Your belief in your fairy tale tells me that you have an emptiness inside of your head that you can't explain, since that emptiness is where your brain should be.
"God says believe and I will give you proff"
When?
FourDeuce01 19 hours ago
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Off course God exist. You can call it Alah , Budha , Jesus or Madona. It’s the same.
Just try to be a good man .
alenfilip1 1 day ago
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Christianity defies human nature: from an atheists point of view christianity would simply have been created by a man. But, if you were to make a religion would you make every natural instinct a sin? Also, it defies society, at the time of course the dominent societies were Roman and Jewish, they were nothing like the Christian philosophy. Jesus, should have been susceptable to his human nature and those societies, but he wasnt. My point is, no mere human could do what Jesus did.
Schism704 1 day ago
@Schism704 Nicely said and recognised. If man made up the story of Christ, he would be full of fault. He would be painted as a stud, gold chains around his neck, a babe of each arm and so on. It just goes to show that corruption cannot write about incorruption, that the scriptures were moved by the spirit, and NOT by man.
Romerosays 23 hours ago
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@Schism704
"My point is, no mere human could do what Jesus did."
Before you go around claiming that your fairy tale did anything you need to first prove it existed.
FourDeuce01 19 hours ago
Well Just know that there is a God Jesus loves you and if you accept him as your savior you will prove that there is a God, and then you can post a new video!
cindyprincessofthelo 1 day ago
@cindyprincessofthelo
"Just know that there is a God"
If you can prove it, we can know it.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@Romerosays When I said your not convincing anyone, I meant anyone who uses logic, reason, and rational thought. I am retiring this foolish circular argument. It's going nowhere. And you can believe in imaginary fairy gods if u like. But you are wasting your life. The God of Abraham is false. This is logical fact! Using the strict premise of logic your God is NOT real, and cannot logically exist.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u ".... anyone who uses logic, reason, and rational thought"......Maybe you should use some of that when interpreting scripture, especially when it came to discussing John 1:1. All you did was ignore my explanation, gave me no reason why it could not be possible and cried INTERPRETATION ALERT, no reasoning and logic there on your part AGAIN as usual. "I am retiring this foolish circular argument"....I new you couldn't stick with it!
Romerosays 23 hours ago
@sexyAllen4u "The God of Abraham is false. This is logical fact! Using the strict premise of logic your God is NOT real, and cannot logically exist"....Go tell the Jews their history then, you could even rewrite their history for them, what a guy!
Romerosays 23 hours ago
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TRIBULATION IS NOW, the worlds birth pains have begun, we have entered into a time phase described in the Bible as "a time such as there never was" as the battle against Israel draws near, so does the return of Messiah. As trade wars and currency wars continue to mount, so will the desperation of nations be caused to "rise up against another". The Bible has been %100 correct in it's prophecy concerning the people of Israel and word events to this day, it's a foolish mistake to deny it now.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "yes I can, they are NOT of my faith whatsoever!" Yes they are and nothing you say will EVER change that! You are the one in denial. And you are the one that will continually commit the No True Scottsman logical fallacy,thus discrediting your position. And all the rest of what you are saying is based on YOUR INTERPRETATION!!Your personal PERCEPTION! They believed in the same bible you do, and they followed the same God you do. So they were Christians regardless if you agree or not!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "And all the rest of what you are saying is based on YOUR INTERPRETATION!!Your personal PERCEPTION!"....Rubbish, rather than talk shit, why don't you learn to read it properly, maybe you should study Hebrew and Creek rather than say whats there when its not. "they were Christians regardless"...Bullshit! Define a Christian.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays All you are doing is crying context. And your only defense seems to be that you will MAKE yourself believe that I never studied scripture. You will try to convince yourself that NO ONE IN THE FUCKING WORLD besides Romerosays and his ilk, understand the bible! You are arrogant!!! And this is the reason why I KNOW that religion is NOT the way to finding the answer!! EVERYONE thinks THEY are right, and NO EVIDENCE confirms THEIR views!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Well prove me wrong then!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u What you don't realise is that you have been taught by the church of Rome, wither you choose to believe it or not your faith was contaminated from the beginning by false doctrines of hell torments, satanism, immortal souls, heaven bound, multiple god's, etc, etc. Your brainwashed by it, as you still think that the Bible teaches it.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "What you don't realise is that you have been taught by the church of Rome" Although you are wrong, what difference does it make? You cannot prove to ANYONE that YOUR views of the fucking bible are greater than ANYONE ELSE'S!! It is based on PERCEPTION not FACTS!! Not actual HISTORICAL RECORD! Not REALITY!!! And the authors are NOT here to confirm their true meaning behind what was written! And I don't believe in ANY OF IT DUMBASS!! I'm not brainwashed YOU ARE!!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "Although you are wrong".....Words that need backing up I see! "You cannot prove to ANYONE that YOUR views of the fucking bible are greater than ANYONE ELSE'S"...I've proved it to many and have baptised many. Your still brainwashed, your reaction are the scares that's testimony to it!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "Bullshit! Define a Christian" A person who professes to believe in Jesus, and follow the teachings.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@sexyAllen4u "A person who professes to believe in Jesus, and follow the teachings".... Very good, since you stated "That sword, created MILITANT Christians that caused the Inquisitions, and Crusades!"...So do you think these people practise the teaching of Jesus, to "Love thy neighbour"?
Romerosays 1 day ago
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TRIBULATION IS NOW, the worlds birth pains have begun, we have entered into a time phase described in the Bible as "a time such as there never was" as the battle against Israel draws near, so does the return of Messiah. As trade wars and currency wars continue to mount, so will the desperation of nations be caused to "rise up against another". The Bible has been %100 correct in it's prophecy concerning the people of Israel and word events to this day, it's a foolish mistake to deny it now.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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HEY ATHEISTS, ever wondered why your just never able to get a grasp on Christ.... Jesus said "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him... " John 6:44. To cut a long storey short, God simply don't want shit in his coming Kingdom!!!!! Now go invest in a shovel and start digging your grave, lets face it, in the long run, permanent death is all you have to look forward too, thats the reality you should be preaching. Updated version 1.5 =^_^=
Romerosays 1 day ago
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LISTEN UP!!!! all you, self-prided, magniloquent, pretentious, wanna-be atheist scientists, Science has "NO ANSWERS" for a sick, Godless, perverted, diseased, self-destructing, downward spiralling, death ridden planet. ONLY GOD has ALL the ANSWERS!!!!!
Romerosays 1 day ago
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ATTENTION GOD SCOFFERS! Keep turning it up, and help fulfil Bible prophecy for these end times. 2 Peter 3:3 However, I must commend you on your excellent work so far in the art of ignorance, blasphemy's and suchlike, toward God. I'll be looking forward to NOT seeing you in the coming Kingdom Era! Please don't let this post discourage you from continuing under the guidance of your fleshly SELF SERVING ways.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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"SHOULD I BE AN ATHEIST" Not while my arse points to the ground.....Imagine having no lasting hope and guidance to the light of immortality in this death infected world, with no promise of real lasting peace, along with murderers, rapist's, thieves, etc, just all brainless fools continually breeding in a endless cycle, NO THANKS! After all, someone's got to inherit everlasting death, all you Godless, and your atheist buddy's can and will, have that gig!
Romerosays 1 day ago
I feel sorry for people who dont belive in God
BlueBull373 1 day ago
@BlueBull373 :
Actually, I feel sorry for you who do believe in God. Ever since I broke away from the Christian life I couldn't ask for anything else more. I'm actually more happier. Now, if there was a real God, I'm pretty sure that if I didn't beleive my life would be horrible. But you see, it's not. It's amazing, I'm better off without God.
HipHopBreaker12 1 day ago
@HipHopBreaker12 It doesn't work like that,not because your life isn't horrible that means that your disbelief is the right choice...you have decided to ignore, rather than disbelieve in, the one who created you, has been so gracious to you (even if you cannot see it) and has the ability to end your life in a blink of an eye and put you in another life where you'll be questioned for what you've done here (just like everyone else), now that could turn into a horrible life
mscofield82 1 day ago
@BlueBull373 And those same people feel sorry for you for being so damn gullible.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Don't worry, you'll be feeling sorry soon enough, the winds of shit are blowing your way.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays So u wish bad towards me because of our differences? Thanks mr true christian.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@sexyAllen4u "So u wish bad towards me because of our differences"...Why would I wish you bad, where did I wish you bad. Telling you whats coming around the corner and your reaction to it isn't wishing you bad at all.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u I really feel bad about you, you cant understand it ;) Dont want to offend u or something just sayin, but I hope you found out what the truth is before you fuckin die cause after that its too late :)
BlueBull373 1 day ago
@BlueBull373
"I really feel bad about you, you cant understand it"
Maybe you should feel bad about yourself instead. You have the kind of stupid that can't be cured.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@BlueBull373 And why should I care to find it before I die? Is it so your cruel and unjust God won't punish me and torture me forever for something as small as what I believe in??? I feel bad for your children who you teach this bullshit to. You teach them to be good not because it is good, but to keep THEMSELVES from eternal suffering. Its about YOU!! It isn't about anyone else!! Your good because YOU desire gifts after death! That is SELFISH and definately not genuine!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Its not about being good man first of all I dont got kids second I did some pretty fucked up shit third its about me? Well I love God and he loves me and u can actualy feel it :) Jesus is more of a relationship and salvation than a religion. I know it sounds fucked up to a nonbeliver like yourself and my "cruel and unjust God" dont want to punish you for anything he wants to forgive you ANYTHING, he made you so you could live with him forever.
BlueBull373 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "The devil would do anything to make you not belive and even hate God" seems like he did a good job with you. Anyway, I cant explain it to you you cant understand. Dont get mad brother its just that I belive and you dont.
BlueBull373 1 day ago
@BlueBull373
"its just that I belive and you dont."
Right, it's just that we think and you don't.
FourDeuce01 23 hours ago
@sexyAllen4u Dude, I have go now and play some drums with my mate from the band "dead letter circus" look them up on you tube, they just toured the U.S. in december, I know its not your style, but see what you think since your into music also.
Romerosays 1 day ago
Nope. Just answer the freaking question!! I'm watching the State of The Union! Your annoying me.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@Romerosays Whoever you are about to tell me is based on(here it comes) INTERPRETATION!! I want to know who you THINK God is referring to. I'm positive I believe differently based upon my own studies of scripture.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Come on have a guess, think man, think!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays To me, it's ALL bullshit! So you tell me, who was your imaginary friend referring to?? Who else's image are we created in besides your God's?
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Come on you said you know the bible better than me, but don't be afraid to say you don't know.
Romerosays 1 day ago
i know theres no god because god talks to me! he, himself, told me he wasnt real! take that, society
zebraman60 1 day ago
@zebraman60 I think you need to take some pills and lie down'
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays I think you need to take your pills and be strapped down.LOL!!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u He..he..he!
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "I think you need to take some pills and lie down'" I think you need to take your own advice!
talover403 1 day ago
@Romerosays god your a moron.
zebraman60 1 day ago
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@Romerosays
"I think"
No, you don't think.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 Me think me get under your skin!
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays
"Me think me get under your skin!"'
Nice christian statement. 2 lies in one line. First, you don't think, and second, you don't get under my skin.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
HERE IS YOUR BEST PROOF THAT NO GOD EXISTS; JUST VIEW THE LOW DOWN BASTARDS THAT HE ALLOWS TO DO HIS WORK ON EARTH THEN LETS THEM LIVE TO A GRAND OLD AGE. ALL THE WHILE SPILLING SPERM AND SEWAGE LIKE SOME DEMENTED ONANIST.
RUINING THE LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE LIKE IT IS THEIR SACRED DUTY. AND TO BECOME GODS THEMSELVES : ABUSING DIMWITS AND CHILDREN.
bujumbura101 1 day ago
@bujumbura101 That only proves you don't no whats coming, and keep your private life's details to yourself, were not interested!
Romerosays 1 day ago
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bujumbura101 1 day ago
@bujumbura101 War is coming, thats whats coming.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays Romerosays SO YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THOSE LOWDOWN SPERM AND SEWAGE SPILLING ONANISTS AGAIN ROMERSAYS. {YOU DON'T KNOW (NO) WHAT'S COMING} [KNOW PUN INTENDED.]AND THIS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD THAT YOU TELL TO CHILDREN .
bujumbura101 1 day ago
@bujumbura101 What on earth are you talking about exactly?
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "Another fallacy, Jesus is and never was God."
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So from what i'm reading here. The word was WITH God and WAS God. And the word became FLESH! Hmmm
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@sexyAllen4u Ok lets play, hopefully you will stick with it! "John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God" Jesus is NOT literally the word, HE was the word "MADE flesh" logos translated "word" expresses intention, mind, or purpose. It was God's intention or purpose from "In the beginning" to bring Christ into the world. When did this happen? Not in the beginning, but "this day I have begotten thee" Acts13:33..cont
Romerosays 1 day ago
This does not prove that Jesus is God, but that Jesus was in the mind, plan and purpose of God in the beginning and "manifested in these last times" 1 Pet 1:20
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays According to your bible, a talking snake and a burning bush also exists. Do you have any UNBIASED OUTSIDE sources that back up your bible?
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 "a talking snake and a burning bush"...Haven't come across a talking snake yet, but I've seen many a bush burn!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays Well your bible says they both exit. But have you seen a bush that talks!
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 It wasn't a talking bush, it was a burning bush where the voice appeared from.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "It wasn't a talking bush, it was a burning bush where the voice appeared from" Therefore the voice came from the burning bush you moron!.....hence a TALKING burning bush!!!
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 Does it say talking bush, NO. Stop reading into something thats purely not there, MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays Ok a voice that happens to come from a burning bush!! Is that not a talking bush!! Whats the difference between a talking burning bush and a burning bush with a voice? If the voice comes from a bush, its a talking bush.......Apply your logic MORON!!!!!
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 "Ok a voice that happens to come from a burning bush!!"...... You can't see God right, so the direction of God's voice appeared to come from the bush. Kapesh' Why is it talking to you blokes is like talking to retards, nothing is simple that should be.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays You havent proven to me that any god exists yet remember? The bible could have very well said a voice from a burning apple tree! And why cant believers SEE god but they sure as hell can HEAR god? You are digging youself an even deeper hole! How do you know what your god's voice sounds like? "Why is it talking to you blokes is like talking to retards, nothing is simple that should be." Because your logic IS retarded not to mention demented because you follow a demented book!
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 "The bible could have very well said a voice from a burning apple tree!"... would it make any difference if it did? "How do you know what your god's voice sounds like?"...I don't, and didn't say I did. I'm telling you what the Bible says, because you seem so sure you know it. Not my fault you have a problem with "getting it"
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays I got it......I just dont believe it because its NOT rational!! Its not my fault that you are letting a fallocious book hinder your rationality just because you like it which you believe to be truthful. If you cared about what you believe to be true, you would not only question it but compare it to rational thought. Making a special appeal to ANY biblical text is foolish and serves as a dogmatic view of what you believe the truth to be and stops you from finding real truths.
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 Just to think, they are willing to accept extraordinary claims from a book that talks about burning bushes with voices coming out of them, talking donkeys and serpents, men living in fish, stars falling to earth, 6 day creation of the universe, all without evidence. But then tell them that the big bang caused the expansion of the universe, or that we evolved from a common ancestor with the chimps, and support it with tons of evidence, and then it's so unbelievable.lol
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution. Thats is because they have used up all their belief with their assbackwards version of what they consider truth. The hits just keep coming!!
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 And they will keep getting deflected like bugs on a windshield. Until they provide real REASON for their beliefs. And I will continue to logically debunk every single one of their arguments. They need something new. Hmmmmm.......maybe some evidence.lol
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Hurry up then, I'm still waiting!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays Hurry up what? And weren't we supposed to be on John 1? What happened to that? You never answered my question. Who is being referred to in John 1 as the Word?
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u God was not talking to himself, remember there is no other god beside him, he was talking to someone else. Since the Trinity is bullshit, that makes the holy spirit not a person, so who do you think God could of been talking to.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays
"remember there is no other god beside him,"
If that is true, his first commandment seems totally unnecessary. If there are no other gods, then he must be pretty stupid to tell us we "shall not have any OTHER gods before him." Is your imaginary god stupid?
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 Not getting yet! then look who's stupid.
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays
"then look who's stupid."
I saw who was stupid when you made your first post, and I've seen it again with every post you've made.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@talover403 "Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution"...We don't, we just admire your faith in it, you got truck loads more than us.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "We don't, we just admire your faith in it, you got truck loads more than us." Really? Because that would mean we don't have evidence. Since faith is belief held without evidence. But we have tons of it. So I guess faith means something else then.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "Because that would mean we don't have evidence".....You only got theory's that forever keep changing from when it first started, todays facts is tomorrows history superseded by new one's.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays Scientific theory is not the same as the layman's theory. How many times must we relay that same information to you? Scientific theory is BASED on facts and is the BEST explanation available to explain a certain phenomena. Gravity=theory, law of motion=theory, laws of physics=theory, evolution=theory. And they rarely change. But they are consistently developed, tweeked, and refined based on new evidence. Bible does not, and is inconsistent with new evidence=fail.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution"...We don't, we just admire your faith in it, you got truck loads more than us." This is NOT something we are taking on faith. When you have evidence, faith is irrlevant and is NOT needed or used. YOU are the one with faith, NOT us!
talover403 1 day ago
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@talover403
"Most of them claim they dont have enough faith to believe evolution."
Water's wet, fish swim, christians lie. Hang around here long enough and you'll get used to it.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
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"christians lie"
Actually, I know most christians to be quite decent and honest people, even if they tell themselves that it's okay to hold unsubstantiated and unsubstantiable beliefs.
It's not christians who lie: it's creationists, another thing entirely. Christians worship Jesus. Creationists worship a book.
MrGralgrathor 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "Why is it talking to you blokes is like talking to retards" Retards are more likely to hear voices from burning bushes.lol
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "It wasn't a talking bush, it was a burning bush where the voice appeared from." Uhh,,,,yea, and we know talking voices don't come out of burning bushes. And we also know that bushes become consumed when burned.lol
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "This does not prove that Jesus is God, but that Jesus was in the mind, plan and purpose of God in the beginning and "manifested in these last times" 1 Pet 1:20" INTERPRETATION ALERT!! INTERPRETATION ALERT!!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Sorry, your the one with a translation problem. Jesus was God's intention/logos In the beginning, later becoming flesh. Why is this not reasonable? If God knew Jeremiah before he formed him in the belly, then why not Christ? "BEFORE I FORMED THEE in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" (Jeremiah 1:5) ...cont
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "Sorry, your the one with a translation problem. Jesus was God's intention/logos In the beginning, later becoming flesh." INTERPRETATION ALERT!! INTERPRETATION ALERT!!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Come on your going to have to do better than that, crying "INTERPRETATION ALERT" is acknowledging my explanation, but rather weaselling out from it!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays There is no need. You cannot convince me that your bible does not say Jesus was God. It doesn't put the phrase together like that. But it says it in many ways. ESPECIALLY by referring Jesus as the WORD OF GOD, who according to John 1, IS GOD!! But lets go back to the beginning. Doesn't your ONE God say let US create man in OUR image??? But I thought he was one God? How can he refer to his self in plural????
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@sexyAllen4u "You cannot convince me that your bible does not say Jesus was God."...Jesus being God is an inferred upon only by the Trinitarian, not by scripture. Since the Bible was complied by Trinitarians, logos translated as "word" was better suited to their established beliefs, to replace it logos with intention, or purpose would not do their doctrine justice.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "But lets go back to the beginning. Doesn't your ONE God say let US create man in OUR image?"....Let me ask you a question. Other than God and Jesus, who else bears the image and likeness of man, that could of been there at creation?
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "Let me ask you a question. Other than God and Jesus, who else bears the image and likeness of man, that could of been there at creation?" You havent proven creation took place. You just keep asserting it with NO evidence!
talover403 1 day ago
@talover403 Dude go away, you got no useful input here, besides I'm talking to Allen not you.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays You mean I am not willing to play your little bible game with you right? Dude, you live in your little game dont you? Are you that afraid of facing the real world that you have to cower behind a book of heresay and fantasy?
talover403 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "Let me ask you a question. Other than God and Jesus, who else bears the image and likeness of man, that could of been there at creation?" Oh so when God says in his image he DOES mean appearance?? HMM.....So if we find intelligent species elsewhere and they look nothing like us, will you stop preaching then? And the Holy Spirit is your answer. But don't ask a question with the question. Why did he refer to himself in Plural??
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
..."Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you"( 1 Peter 1:20)....Can you see a resemblance? or do you think Jeremiah is God also?
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays So....Jeremiah didn't have free will because his life was predestined to be lived the way your God foresaw. Thanks for clarification.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Dude there's something wrong with you, your not playing with the full deck. Jeremiah had free will and practised it, God knew it before it happened and told Jeremiah after the fact. CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS??????? How else do you think prophecy is possible?
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "God knew it before it happened and told Jeremiah after the fact." Therefore he did not have free will. it was exactly what God foresaw happening before ever creating him. You cannot get around that using logic. You won't get around it. No logical person will let you. If his free will was known it was not free. It was predetermined!! Just because HE didn't know it is irrelevant. the fact it was KNOWN strips him of his free will! Strips us all! It is just an illusion!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u The future is already known by God before it happens, you can't explain the prophecies of the bible any other way. If you decide to end your life tonight, then thats your choice, not God's. God does not control your actions, only you do. Just because he know's what your going to do, doesn't automatically make you do it.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "The future is already known by God before it happens, you can't explain the prophecies of the bible any other way" So then you have no choice but to concede that my will is not free. Before God put me here, he knew my fate. I'm just along for the ride. In my HEAD, my will seems free, but everything I do was predetermined. No way around it. And YES, if God knows my actions he MADE me do it by CREATING ME!!! All of my actions are then INNEVITABLE! FAIL again!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@sexyAllen4u "Before God put me here, he knew my fate. I'm just along for the ride. In my HEAD, my will seems free, but everything I do was predetermined."....Are you serious? Think back who made all the decisions in your life when you left mummy and daddy. It was you, wasn't it. Everything is foreknown by God, but if you want to jump in front of a moving bus, then be my guest.
Romerosays 1 day ago
TRIBULATION IS NOW, the worlds birth pains have begun, we have entered into a time phase described in the Bible as "a time such as there never was" as the battle against Israel draws near, so does the return of Messiah. As trade wars and currency wars continue to mount, so will the desperation of nations be caused to "rise up against another". The Bible has been %100 correct in it's prophecy concerning the people of Israel and word events to this day, it a foolish mistake to deny it now.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays "it a foolish mistake to deny it now." A foolish mistake? Aren't you the one that believes when the unbelievers die, they simply stop existing? Isn't that equivalent to what atheists think will happen after we die anyway? Why would we want to start believing your bible so that we can live forever worshipping that sadistic, genocidal, child murdering tyrant??? I'd MUCH rather cease to exist thanks. And still no talking serpents or donkeys. So....
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "Aren't you the one that believes when the unbelievers die, they simply stop existing?"...Thats correct, but I don't see the relation to that of my statement. I think you've missed the point here.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays I wasn't responding to the point you were making there. I was making a point to that statement. There is nothing for us to do if we don't want to have anything to do with that God you believe in. I believe that your God is evil beyond reconciliation. I would NEVER serve him if he did exist. So i'm better off not believing in it. Get me? Not saying that is the reason I don't believe though.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "God is evil beyond reconciliation"....If you thought Jesus is God, then what bad did Jesus do or teach for that matter?
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "then what bad did Jesus do or teach for that matter?" Do you really want me to list them for you? Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. Matthew 11:20..........Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12
talover403 1 day ago
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@talover403 Dude you make me laugh! "Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell"....Understand what the hell of the Bible is first before you shit on Jesus. "Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell" ....Come on! Parables were given because they didn't see nor understood, it was for those "that are without" verse 11. I think your the one who's confused!!!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays Jesus was just as evil. He states that no man can get to the father but through him. Therefore, nobody, no matter how good they were in life, can be accepted into God's kingdom, and will be rejected. that is unjust. Secondly, he stated that he came not to bring peace, but a sword. That sword, created MILITANT Christians that caused the Inquisitions, and Crusades! And he died and knew he would come back, yet calls it a SACRIFICE??? Bitch please!! SOLDIERS SACRIFICE!!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "created MILITANT Christians that caused the Inquisitions, and Crusades!...Piss off with this false Christianity. "And he died and knew he would come back, yet calls it a SACRIFICE???.....Do you even know what was sacrificed. I doubt you know!!
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "Piss off with this false Christianity." No True Scottsman fallacy. You cannot cut off a certain group of members in your faith because you don't agree with their actions. That does not mean they didn't believe in the same religion. Nor does that mean they weren't Christians! FAIL! "Do you even know what was sacrificed. I doubt you know!!" Then enlighten me.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u "You cannot cut off a certain group of members in your faith because you don't agree with their actions."...yes I can, they are NOT of my faith whatsoever! and the sacrifice Jesus made was not giving his life as such, but sacrificed practising the desires and ways of the carnal flesh to deaths end. Even if he knew he would die and come back, it still was a burden on his shoulders to achieve. No one else has achieved it to this day, to die sinless, to be without spot and blemish.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays And 1 Timothy 3:16 states clearly that GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, believed on in the world, and recieved up into glory!! GOD!! It's right there!! PLAIN AS DAY!!! I told you I know that bible like the back of my head!! How YOU interpret it is simply different, based upon personal perception, who taught you, and what you were raised to believe. My interpretation varies from yours. But niether one is correct over the other!
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@sexyAllen4u Lets finish with John 1:1 first, then we'll talk about 1 timothy 3:16.
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays Ok John 1. Who was the word?
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
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@sexyAllen4u "Ok John 1. Who was the word?".....The word was God's word in the beginning, it was the Logos/intention of God that LATER became flesh and dwelt among us. Its not rocket science!
Romerosays 1 day ago
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@Romerosays "The word was God's word in the beginning, it was the Logos/intention of God that LATER became flesh and dwelt among us." Words are not flesh. Nor do they become flesh. It was figurative speech that referred to Jesus Christ. It only makes sense because that is what the entire story was about. The coming of the messiah. But that's based on my perception. Yours is no better than mine.
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
stupid blonde
Beatz4liffe 1 day ago
wisdom comes easy to ones not blinded by ego
toxichaze95 1 day ago
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HEY ATHEISTS, ever wondered why your just never able to get a grasp on Christ.... Jesus said "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him... " John 6:44. To cut a long storey short, God simply don't want shit in his coming Kingdom!!!!! Now go invest in a shovel and start digging your grave, lets face it, in the long run, permanent death is all you have to look forward too, thats the reality you should be preaching. Updated version 1.5 =^_^=
Romerosays 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 hey if you watched the video even the girl said she can"t prove that God does not exist? Can u prove He doesn't? Look around u,who created those trees? Do you even know how the sun rises n how it sets. Do u even know the number of hair on your head. No.But God does know. God created u to enjoy His love. I know you believe in Him but you just denied it. Only stupid people wear that shirt. I am not stupid when I'm with God. It says in the bible Psalm 14"Only fools say there is no God"
littlemisskyutot 1 day ago
@littlemisskyutot
"Can u prove He doesn't?"
I don't need to, and neither does anybody else. Since none of you fairy tale believers has EVER been able to prove any gods exist, there is no need for anybody to prove otherwise.
"who created those trees?"
I did. Can you prove I didn't?
"But God does know"
I realize you may be a silly child, but even silly children should learn how to think. You can't claim your fairy tale god knows anything until you prove it exists.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 "I realize you may be a silly child, but even silly children should learn how to think".. .I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it. Luke 18:17. Bet that went way over your head!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays
"Bet that went way over your head!"
You'd lose, but then, you do nothing here but fail already.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 Fail, lair and fairy tales, cries of a defeated lonely rejected one-sided fool!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays
"I believe in god."
Cry of a lonely deluded child who refuses to grow up.
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 LOL!
Romerosays 1 day ago
@Romerosays 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
That kinda looks like Jesus was God. I'm sure God the father never came to earth. According to your bible, his very presence would kill us. Right?lol
sexyAllen4u 1 day ago
@littlemisskyutot
"I know you believe in Him"
Then you can add that to the long list of things you believe you know, but don't really know. "It says in the bible Psalm 14"Only fools say there is no God""
It says in my bible, "Only fools quote their silly book of fairy tales to people who know better."
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@littlemisskyutot
"Can u prove He doesn't?"
Can you prove Gandalf doesn't exist? Santa Claus? Harry Potter? I bet you can't prove any of them don't exist, so you must believe in them since YOU brought up that stupid argument. Either you believe they exist or you are a liar. Which is it?
FourDeuce01 1 day ago
@FourDeuce01 I've been to the north pole, couldn't find Santa anywhere, I called and called out his name, but nothing came of avail.
Romerosays 1 day ago