If under determinism there is only one possible outcome then no choice is possible because choice requires more than one possible outcome. We can call that choice if we want but we'd no more be choosing than a ball chooses to roll down a hill or a dry piece of wood chooses to be very combustible.
@shlockofgod If there is physically more then one possible outcome, then what would choice even mean. If I make a choice then so what if the outcome is going to be something else anyway.
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That was an amazing explanation. I have tried to say that (assuming determinism is true) "free will" was a phrase coined to describe observations and experiences in a deterministic world, and therefore conceptualizing it as something else does not make sense. But your explanation does a much better job than that.
If under determinism there is only one possible outcome then no choice is possible because choice requires more than one possible outcome. We can call that choice if we want but we'd no more be choosing than a ball chooses to roll down a hill or a dry piece of wood chooses to be very combustible.
shlockofgod 1 week ago
@shlockofgod If there is physically more then one possible outcome, then what would choice even mean. If I make a choice then so what if the outcome is going to be something else anyway.
j0lin101 1 week ago
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@j0lin101 "If there is physically more then one possible outcome, then what would choice even mean."
It would mean you have A choice and some control over your actions. That you have a mind and are responsible to some extent for your a achievements.
"If I make a choice then so what if the outcome is going to be something else anyway"
WHAAAA??? I suppose if you really, really don't care what happens in the future.
That's a bizarre response.
shlockofgod 1 week ago
bro you should be a famous philosopher i cant believe you dont have more views. Ive been trying to understand this stuff for a week now and you finally made it make sense. THis will help me write my essay thank you.
alokin49 2 months ago
@alokin49 you made my day. :)
j0lin101 2 months ago
That was an amazing explanation. I have tried to say that (assuming determinism is true) "free will" was a phrase coined to describe observations and experiences in a deterministic world, and therefore conceptualizing it as something else does not make sense. But your explanation does a much better job than that.
JesseDoesMagicDotCom 4 months ago
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ekerstein 1 year ago
You explained perfectly what has been in my mind as a jumbled mess for some time now. Thank you.
Lekeksi 1 year ago