Is a 1,500 point "Destroyer" list viable (15 Destroyers, 30 Warriors, & kitted out Destroyer Lord)? Also, are Destroyers a 1-5 unit, I know Heavy Destroyers are 1-3, but I can't remember Destroyers and can't find my Codex?
I am going to look this up... and then exploit it. You wouldn't even have to place them in a front rank by this rational. You could give a two inch gap between the 4 downed necrons and get yourself another 10 inches on anyone. Maybe 12. Hell, I would be shooting them myself. Just put a flux-arc pistol to the back of their shiny heads and pull the trigger.
It won't quite work that way. All of the downed necrons that get back up will have to be placed in coherency with the existing unit. You won't be able to "chain" the models as they get up. Fritz even showed it correctly, all four of his were placed in cohencery with existing models... and with coherency with each other.
If you follow rules as writen it's perfectly legal, the FAQ doesn't say you can't
Quote necron rulebook pg 13 " the repaired necron immediatly will be placed in coherency with the closest unit of the same type" maybe there wouldn't be stupid arguments like this if someone can read the rules. I don't know what tornament your running, but not allow this is almost like not allowing people to take models from the front of a unit to stop it from being charged!
by that same single line raw, if you pass wbb and there is an enemy squad of same type modelscloser than a friendly squad your warriors would join the enemy squad. It doesnt say they don't in the faq...
people calm down firtz's videos are awesome, hes an inspiring player and tactician. how about you not go on a witchhunt at the slightest misinterpretation.
Bad wording on GWs part to have this happen so easily. But perfectly fair and legal. Wont win you any sportsmanship points... BUT, Necrons need a lot of help these days.
We still play by the second edition rules here, back where Necrons were first introduced. The way it worked back then is that they got up right from where they were laying and could do nothing else but move towards the rest of their unit until they re-entered coherency. That sounds like a much more fair way of doing it.
Even as a necron player, I would have to say that in all fairness, they should be placed at the back of the unit, as they would be crawling towards them as they repaired.
lol its not legit and its not a tactic, its not reading the first half of the wbb rules is what it is. it clearly states you lay them on there side thens tand them back up. no removing and replaceing casualties.
the only way to legally do is it with a 2nd squad that gets wiped, and then its only the models within 6" of the second squad.
you'd have to interlace 2 squads and have one taken down completely.
selective reading of the rules =/= valid exploits. this clearly breaks raw and rai.
i think that move would be pushing it. Sure it does not specify it in the rules but im guessing they thought it would be natural that ppl would put them in were you take the casualties front/front or back/back.
Sorry Fritz, but I think your cheating. Maybe you could take this idea for pooping a Scarab out of a Tomb Spider and putting it at the front of the Spider to get some extra inches? Look forward to the Deceiver vid though :-)
I have changed my mind on this one. I think it actually is a valid tactic and is just taking full advantage of the Codex. I am now using this tactic, and it works well. Thanks Fritz.
this is what the codex says on the models placement.
"The repaired necron will immediately be placed in coherency with the closest unit of the same type. " so i mean you could really put it anywhere in coherency. if the squad runs they are moved anyways so this really isn't all that different.
here is the deal they go into the minimum distance to get into coherency according to gw so this is false and as a necron player this is sadly a poor misinterpretation of the rules and gw has clarified this
Also, please rectify what you've proclaimed in this video...
I greately appreciate your video's and I've been subscribed for a while. This video, however, really hurts your reputation as a respectable player and makes you not only look like a bad reader (furthermore lacking common sense (the first foundation of warhammer I think) but it also makes you look cheap, and I refuse to believe you need this sort of thing to win.
You place the models on the SIDE and when they make their wbb you are allowed to put the moddels back up on their feet at the same location they went down. UNLESS a whole unit gets whiped and they need to make their wbb on another squad of the same models (or a lords' res orb/ tomb spider) OR when some models don't come back and cause gabs in the formation (IE lose coherncy).
that is just as much shit as the perils of the warp he tried to pull on mat like a week ago, if any necron player would try to pull that in a torny i would send all spotsmanship points to the wind and have a few choice words
the only way i can see to "legaly" slide an extra 2 inches into a squad is to have 2 squads within 6" of each other, one would have to be dropped to the man and be within 6 inches of the second squad to gain wbb. then the one who roll wbb would join up with the intact squad.
In all honestly fritz this is such a freaking cheat I thought you where better then this. This is just stealing inches, I would treat it as a left behind models due to being out of coherency then you just move them closest distance to get back into coherency. I would totally call BS on this move!
hey what do u think of pariahs. I was think of starting a necron army and put a sq of these guys? are they good or are they not worth it?
Diap2012 8 months ago
you are not using night bringer I'm just beginer I want to play necrons is he god? if he is how to use him
enigeto 1 year ago
it a good tactic but it is full of cheese and a bit on the the weak side.
gdolkin666 1 year ago
i cant find any deceiver tactic vid. whats the name of it (if u have posed one at all)
19Marvin96 1 year ago
Is a 1,500 point "Destroyer" list viable (15 Destroyers, 30 Warriors, & kitted out Destroyer Lord)? Also, are Destroyers a 1-5 unit, I know Heavy Destroyers are 1-3, but I can't remember Destroyers and can't find my Codex?
ClutchModeEngaged 1 year ago
@ClutchModeEngaged Destroyers are 3-5 per unit.
samrtk 1 year ago
whats the song pls?
azorazan 1 year ago
those Tau tanks look like Republic Fighter Tanks from Star Wars because of the way they were painted
RepublicCustoms 2 years ago
someone knows the name of this song ? please PM
Typhus2009 2 years ago
necron slide to the left necron slide to the right ,monolith ,monolith
lol
tomtomgo51 2 years ago
I am going to look this up... and then exploit it. You wouldn't even have to place them in a front rank by this rational. You could give a two inch gap between the 4 downed necrons and get yourself another 10 inches on anyone. Maybe 12. Hell, I would be shooting them myself. Just put a flux-arc pistol to the back of their shiny heads and pull the trigger.
JeremiahLiend 2 years ago
It won't quite work that way. All of the downed necrons that get back up will have to be placed in coherency with the existing unit. You won't be able to "chain" the models as they get up. Fritz even showed it correctly, all four of his were placed in cohencery with existing models... and with coherency with each other.
Tigerheart01 2 years ago
the star gods ask for sacrifice in order for u 2 get better wwb rolls
virgin sacrifices
pappazmurf 2 years ago
Fritz has done it again
r4zor878 2 years ago
Fritz, you sound tired. To busy making vids to sleep? ^_^
Rincewindlolzor 2 years ago
If you follow rules as writen it's perfectly legal, the FAQ doesn't say you can't
Quote necron rulebook pg 13 " the repaired necron immediatly will be placed in coherency with the closest unit of the same type" maybe there wouldn't be stupid arguments like this if someone can read the rules. I don't know what tornament your running, but not allow this is almost like not allowing people to take models from the front of a unit to stop it from being charged!
tvbatt 2 years ago
by that same single line raw, if you pass wbb and there is an enemy squad of same type modelscloser than a friendly squad your warriors would join the enemy squad. It doesnt say they don't in the faq...
IRONBLOODxMECHANIQUE 2 years ago
people calm down firtz's videos are awesome, hes an inspiring player and tactician. how about you not go on a witchhunt at the slightest misinterpretation.
frozenflame33 2 years ago
Fritz's***
frozenflame33 2 years ago
Bad wording on GWs part to have this happen so easily. But perfectly fair and legal. Wont win you any sportsmanship points... BUT, Necrons need a lot of help these days.
Kriegfreak 2 years ago
We still play by the second edition rules here, back where Necrons were first introduced. The way it worked back then is that they got up right from where they were laying and could do nothing else but move towards the rest of their unit until they re-entered coherency. That sounds like a much more fair way of doing it.
Even as a necron player, I would have to say that in all fairness, they should be placed at the back of the unit, as they would be crawling towards them as they repaired.
Trueflights 2 years ago
this is a perfectly legit tacit.. why are most of the people below crying? lol
trufearl 2 years ago 2
lol its not legit and its not a tactic, its not reading the first half of the wbb rules is what it is. it clearly states you lay them on there side thens tand them back up. no removing and replaceing casualties.
the only way to legally do is it with a 2nd squad that gets wiped, and then its only the models within 6" of the second squad.
you'd have to interlace 2 squads and have one taken down completely.
selective reading of the rules =/= valid exploits. this clearly breaks raw and rai.
IRONBLOODxMECHANIQUE 2 years ago
i think that move would be pushing it. Sure it does not specify it in the rules but im guessing they thought it would be natural that ppl would put them in were you take the casualties front/front or back/back.
1RedCorsair 2 years ago
My friend gabe uses this on me ALL THE TIME!!!
somebodystudios 2 years ago
Lol, I like how you find loop holes. It's hilarious. though I would probably not allow this in a tourmy, a friendly match will be acceptable.
Also, what the heck? you said land raiders were next like 4 weeks ago? What's with the decievers?
HarbingerGunship 2 years ago
Not allow it? I don't know what kind of tournaments you run, but this is legit per the rule book.
killert0mat0 2 years ago
Fritz I thought that you had given up on Necrons - thank you for the video!
KirKanos08 2 years ago
Sorry Fritz, but I think your cheating. Maybe you could take this idea for pooping a Scarab out of a Tomb Spider and putting it at the front of the Spider to get some extra inches? Look forward to the Deceiver vid though :-)
IDICBeer 2 years ago
I have changed my mind on this one. I think it actually is a valid tactic and is just taking full advantage of the Codex. I am now using this tactic, and it works well. Thanks Fritz.
IDICBeer 2 years ago
this is what the codex says on the models placement.
"The repaired necron will immediately be placed in coherency with the closest unit of the same type. " so i mean you could really put it anywhere in coherency. if the squad runs they are moved anyways so this really isn't all that different.
fenrisiandog 2 years ago
That is a rather interesting thing called the necron slide. I'm going to have to look that rule up before any criticisms but interesting indeed.
The only problem I see with the necron slide is that it brings you closer to assulte infantry.
By the way, Necrons are under powered and this helps them a lot not that necrons can't win but they need something.
spooterman64 2 years ago
here is the deal they go into the minimum distance to get into coherency according to gw so this is false and as a necron player this is sadly a poor misinterpretation of the rules and gw has clarified this
mt51784 2 years ago
Like ur vids but why the long intros? 1 min of stills and music is a bit much.
Drekks21 2 years ago
Cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. Ohh and... Learn2read.
DigitalNinja2012 2 years ago
Also, please rectify what you've proclaimed in this video...
I greately appreciate your video's and I've been subscribed for a while. This video, however, really hurts your reputation as a respectable player and makes you not only look like a bad reader (furthermore lacking common sense (the first foundation of warhammer I think) but it also makes you look cheap, and I refuse to believe you need this sort of thing to win.
AKARazorback 2 years ago
This is not what the codex says AT ALL.
You place the models on the SIDE and when they make their wbb you are allowed to put the moddels back up on their feet at the same location they went down. UNLESS a whole unit gets whiped and they need to make their wbb on another squad of the same models (or a lords' res orb/ tomb spider) OR when some models don't come back and cause gabs in the formation (IE lose coherncy).
AKARazorback 2 years ago
that is just as much shit as the perils of the warp he tried to pull on mat like a week ago, if any necron player would try to pull that in a torny i would send all spotsmanship points to the wind and have a few choice words
drumninja626 2 years ago
the only way i can see to "legaly" slide an extra 2 inches into a squad is to have 2 squads within 6" of each other, one would have to be dropped to the man and be within 6 inches of the second squad to gain wbb. then the one who roll wbb would join up with the intact squad.
IRONBLOODxMECHANIQUE 2 years ago
necron slide as you call it is 100% illegal immoral and clearly not allowed acording to the wwb rules in the necron codex p.13
models reduced to 0 wounds lay on there side and remain on the table, if they pass wbb they simple stand back up. No removing and replaceing.
concerning the bit saying the medel is placed in coherency, that is when the model is not within squad coherency to begin with.
cont...
IRONBLOODxMECHANIQUE 2 years ago
That's a little dirty; I wouldn't let you pull that stunt if I was on the other side of the board.
ARodriguez258 2 years ago 2
i agree.....the warriors that get up from wbb should join to the rear of the closest unit
cannibalnecron 2 years ago 2
Also useful for getting into and running away from close combat.
Great that you're on the right side now. Necrons are here to clean the universe from chaos :D
No surprise you're rolling bad, necrons can't share dice with eldars. Get them their own set of dice...
Visseking 2 years ago
In all honestly fritz this is such a freaking cheat I thought you where better then this. This is just stealing inches, I would treat it as a left behind models due to being out of coherency then you just move them closest distance to get back into coherency. I would totally call BS on this move!
Cheers CJ
SaimHannRookie 2 years ago 2
nice i think this might defanatly help!
chrisjk123 2 years ago
didnt know this thanks for telling :D
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xArmedGamer 2 years ago
That's NIN! The band that practically revived Industrial single handed.
Reishyn 2 years ago
i prefer a GAUNT slide or GENESTEALER slide or CARNIFEX slide
doomking94 2 years ago
What song is that in the intro?
Pandamonium626 2 years ago
go necrons. One question, I sow a picture where you got the gold hero? (Forgot his name) normally people take the death guy (also forgot name)
darmamu 2 years ago
@darmamu The Deciever is the gold guy. The Nightbringer is the death guy.
ozone40k 2 years ago
thnks for remaining me)
darmamu 2 years ago
Deciever is the goldy and nightbringer is deathy
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darmamu 2 years ago
The Deceiver and Night Bringer
Lootaful 2 years ago
The Deciever and the Nightbringer?
whiplash308 2 years ago
bether buth?
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buy a bether camera buth nice
nikheemskerk22 2 years ago
why are you adding h's
d3athbRinger 2 years ago
because hes hard core
spyriadon 2 years ago
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Mitchell44448888 2 years ago
nice man
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