-Abe ne fakjaj racete da ti gi fatam michka ti materina. -Ne pipaj znameto be. -U usta da te ebam :D bravooo makedonci samo zaedno da se drzhime i nikoj nishto ne ni mozhe ;)
Show to all the world cause they have to know. Europe can you see? These are the neighbours of my country, of Greece. Now you can see why the Greeks don't have friends arround them, cause almost all the neighbour (border) countries are uneducated, fanatics and brainwashed. Most are real gypsies and they only know to steal and get into fights. The people in the video have lost their identity and they try to be Macedonians. If you tell them the opposite they argue like animals.
i love love love reading these comments.. dont let these stupid ass donkey fucking greeks get to you. The poor broke ass fucks will need to go back to hearding sheep and beg for their bread..They can go on claiming in their delusional minds what is ours.. fuck them, fuck them all...LONG LIVE MACEDONIA!!!!
i bet you half of fiba is greece they did not let us put macedonia on our shirts and tried to take away our flag even the refs against russis put the time back how is that even possible.
@FuckYouYoutubCall911 ... yes the Flag is big, but it was not going to cover the Lithuanian people, just the Macedonians..... there was no need to take the flag away.
look there was only a small section that was Macedonian, and that flag would have covered them only.
The flag was not against the Lithuanian people, it was not a rude / racist / anti Lithuania sign, it was just a Macedonian flag.
The Flag to support a small country with a big heart that was doing so well in the Basketball.
Macedonians tried to raise their flag on Lithuanian fan crowd. If they managed to that it would turned out into a riot. And since it was in Lithuania. Security saved your fans.
the sad part part not realized by many, by FIBA rules, u had to approve flag that's bigger then normal flag, not lithuanian regulation, other thing polish P.O.S are using any momentum that schools of polish language will be downsized, even know we have best polish education outside of Poland (including lots and lots of polish in u.s.), i'm sure u will express those complains in next NATO meeting against u.s.
Message to all those countries that were occupied by Macedonia through the ages: accept that fact and stop healing your complexes on youtube. You're worthless, and you'll stay worthless.
So lets compare the words of Alexander from ancient sources to the words of Fyroms hero Misirikov
"We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves. "
Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", 1903
ha ha ha what heck is wrong with you? You need ot be an uneducaed fool , avoid all modern historians , avoid ancient sources , to link former Bulgarians to Alexander.
Even the name AlexandAr MakedoSKI is hillarious - not even the sun is more ignorant ha ha ha
What the heck has former Bulgarians to do with Alexander. Educate yourself fools. Alexanders won speech from ancient sources:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you... "
Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea. Arrian, "Anabasis Alexandri", II, 14, 4
To all slavo Bulgar extremist. Alexanders own words written down in ancient sources
"There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service - but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay - and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it. As for our foreign troops - Thracians, Paeonians"
Alexander the Great addressing his troops prior to the battle of Issus. Arrian, "Anabasis Alexandri", II, 7
@MacedoniaHellen And it's like we don't have a tradition HA:)) all the people has a tradition even though you don't respect ours, 'cus you're afraid of the teritory to Thesalloniki 'cus it belongd to us ...and we know that brilliant and you want to change everything that we have as a nation, but that won't happend NEVER... WE are Macedonians not SKOPIANIANS...our name is MACEDONIA and if you have problem with that GO TO HELL!!!...
Sve chestitke na igri koju ste pokazali na prvenstvu. Chetvrto mesto je veliki uspeh. A ovi fashisti iz Litvanije su provocirali incident jer su se usrali. Nisu vam dozvolili da bodrite svoje momke,ali su izgubili. Nije im uspelo jer ima Boga. Njih 50 doshlo da uzme zastavu? Samo izgovor za provokaciju. Pozdrav iz Srbije!
@MacedoniaHellen Watch the momment when he's taking the award for best shooter you'll see that only he is wearing the macedonian flag beside the awardwd players... HE IS OURS...and i know that you can't accept the fact that you've lost and now you looknig for reasons, but the basketball is a game which cannot be played individual...it's a game where you play as a team and we HAVE that team game....ANTIC, ILIEVSKI, VOJDAN ,CHEKOVSKI,SAMARDZISKI,McCAlebb and the coach Dokuzovski..cry greeks.WE WON
@brandystock The fact is your desparate trying to make another hero Monkeydonian again!Like it or not,the player is American,by american origin,he learned basket in USA and he came in your circus cuz he is last in USA and cuz he take money!This is not the only examble for that!
Hypocrite,you make a game war and you started your bullshits..."we are the best"..."we kick your ass as Macedonians",etc!So,your advice to your fake nation!
toliko potpore od hrvata, nevjerojatno. makedonci, grize li vas imalo savjest zbog, recimo, skandiranja "ustaški pički" kad god gostuje neka hrvatska sportska momčad u makedoniji?
@MacedoniaHellen BO gave his best for this country...he accepted Macedonia as his own country and if you want solace 'cus you lost the game...take it BO for free 'cus it's our HERO and he claimed that he's feeling like MACEDONIAN... your greek stupidity is limitless...like one of your priest expressed the reasons why you lost:)))...'cus of the MACEDONIAN falanga mask in the audience and they frightened you players hahahah... well THAT IS STUPIDITY...
YOU KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENED??BECAUSE YOU TRIED TO DO POLITICS,RAISING A MONKEYDONIAN FLAG WITH THE GREEK SYMBOL OF VERGINA!!EVERYONE KNOWS THAT MACEDONIA IS GREEK AND NOT FYROMIAN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Nobody in EUROPE wants you lazy, ugly greeks, the Turkish don't want you, Macedonians don't want you, Albanians dont want you, Germany don't wont you, Slovenian don't want you,Ireland dont want you,in fact more than half of europe thinks the worsest of you, but on the other half nobody has any kind of problem with us the Macedonians but you, i've been once in Athens and I felt like i'm in Turkmenistan-there was more islamic and arabic people than cristians-what kind of country are you?!
@tomicajovevski i don't give a FUCK for who likes us!when you are jealous of a country with over 3000 history,you start talking about shit about us!!And WE ARE NOT LAZY!If you had read a recent research greeks work MORE THAN ANYONE IN EUROPE!But what could you expect from a country which makes propaganda....?How do you know about Slovenian and Irish,did you make any gallop?Secondly what you saw in athens were f****ing refugees from Pakistan,none wants them!we are not dark-skinned as you think!
@pablogarciagate4 You, don't worry what europe thinks of you?That's your problem. That research you are meansioning is only media propaganda from your local tv stations. Just to calm you down..:( We here have also a history of 3000 years, we have churcher old 15-16-17 centuries old-what, thats not history. If you work so hard why do you have 300 bilion dept? Your country is based upon the credits of europe that you now can't return. Thats working nation? You tell me? MACEDONIA is timeless!!!!
@tomicajovevski we own too many cause our politics were stealing money IF you know why crisis was created!You have NOTHING!All findings in ancient Macedonia (coins,writtings ect) were written in GREEK!Guess why?Oh no,ancient Macedonians were a Hellenic tribe :( Secondly your language is close to Bulgarian and Slavs came to this area 6 centuries after Jesus Christ,long after Alexander the Great died!Any questions?
@tomicajovevski look at your name too!it ends in -evski,probably Slavic name!Alexander's name comes from Αλεξανδρος (do you know what it means in ancient macedonian-Greek??).Another quiz for you : the greek symbol of Vergina sun what does it symbolize??Having a difficult time to answer?
@tomicajovevski Are you desperate because you have no facts. Maybe instead you could explain what your hero Misirikov meant with these words!!
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. The Serbian not only want to colonize Macedonia with Serbs from other part of Yugoslavia, but they wish to kill our Bulgarian consciousness. ”
And so what if there is more islamic and arabic people ??? This humankind owe to much to Arabic people for many inventions and science inventions....Bosnians hate Greeks too !
@nvgogolj I don't give a FUCK about your facts, it's all mislead by your socalled media and other false propaganda spreading socalled experts of yours.
You are a nation with more islamic people, and yet you declare as a cristian people. There are 1 million albanians, over 200 thousands Turkish in Trakia, and over 250 thousand
Macedonians above Thesaloniki, i know i've been there and spoken on my language there. Can you tell me why the people there for example in Galatases, Janica,
@tomicajovevski oh yeah i guess you are a genious just like all the other monkeys right? You went to slovenia and asked them if they like us? no you are just saying that. I get it! you are just stupid. And btw WHO WANTS YOU? take a look at the video! you have no class! you are screwed! you are like NOTHING! and half of the countries IN THE ENTIREWORLD dont even know your country exists. You are not in eurozone because you have no name! you are WORTHLESS!! and as always we win:) bye "FYR"
@tomicajovevski and dont even comment on our people. Half of the people in your country is of other descent. Thats the reason you are so jealous of us. because 85% of us are GREEKS and 90% are christians. You are like everything mixed together! 'fyromonkeydonkeylosers'
Another poor Monkeydonian...You didnt tell us who want you in the E.U?You talk about Turks,Monkeydonians and Albanians that they dont want us..then why they kiss ur ass so they can participate in the E.U?The Germans you little fool guy they dont want us?thats why they all come to visit Greece...
All the arabs that you saw on the street are illegal immigrants...it s strange that the come to Greece to find a job and not in your country...?i guess not...
Fuck you HATERS...don't mix this with history... we beat the lithuanians but they offended us by trying to take our symbol of the state-the flag... and can't just past like that...they should treat us as the others... WE ARE THE SURPRISE AND THE TEAM THAT HAS A GOOD GAME....NO ONE CAN TAKE THE GAME< WE HAVE IT:) LOVE YOU MACEDONIA!!!
@MyGamao YOU IDIOT...Bo McCaleb(BOSHKO MEKEJLEBOVSKI)as you can see he got his macedonian name on his identification macedonia card.... is naturalized MACEDONIAN and he plays with whole heart and soul on the pitch for our state...AND because you're greek and because you LOST you just can shut your mouth... we'll see soon on the Olympic games...bye bye HATER:)
What do you think f**king villagers...? Europe is like your village-country..? Or other races of the Europe has your before-Christ-balkan way of thinking. You 've learned being well treated by Greece (Big MIstake) but this kind of provocative behavior is not allowed abroad...
"Saint Cyril (Greek: Κύριλλος, Church Slavonic: Кирилъ) (827 - February 14, 869) was a Byzantine Greek[1] monk, scholar, theologian, and linguist. He is best known today for his work in Christianising the Slavs and, with his brother Saint Methodius, is credited with devising the Glagolithic and rarely also with devising the Cyrillic alphabet. "
Cyril contributed to Slavic culture, as in a lot, so it's natural that many extremists and Pan-Slavists will try to claim them as their own. This of course has nothing to do with the historical facts: That he was a Byzantine Greek missionary of Christianity to the enemies of the Byzantine Empire, which included Slavs, Arabs and all the places the two brothers visisted.
@jk34695 You still didnt answer me where they were born? Where did they form the language? You also left out why greece waited until 1988 to name northern greece Macedonia
Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people. We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia."
Georgievski in his book "С лице към истината" (Facing the truth)
@jk34695 Ah from a bulgarian book. Then its 100% correct. Then why was Delcev killed by bulgarians? Why was Sandanski killed by bulgarians. Why is Petrov barried in Bulgaria yet on his grave it shows died for united Macedonia. Did you not read at the bottom how bulgarians changed books words and history? Or you just copy/paste everything.
@jk34695 Hey loser how can they be greek or bulgarian when they were fighting for ain independent Macedonian state? Do you even read the posts. I guess not since your only knowledge of history is copy/paste. Every point you were bringing up I was showing you how it was a lie. Yet you could not answer one of my questions. Nothing new there every african from athens ends up the same way!!! Your lies are done
Ivan Hadzhinikolov in his memoirs states one of the principles of the IMRO’s foundation
“The revolutionary organization should be established within Macedonia and should act there, so that the Greeks and Serbs couldn’t label it as a tool of the Bulgarian government.”
@APMUMBP Or let an other hero answer your question
Hristo Tatarchev – founding member BMARC/IMRO
“We talked a long time about the goal of this organization and at last we fixed it on autonomy of Macedonia with the priority of the Bulgarian element. .... It passed through our thoughts that one autonomous Macedonia could easier unite with Bulgaria…”
@jk34695 29] \"For if any non-Greek power, whether Persian or Macedonian, were to achieve world dominion, the typical form of the Greek state would suffer death and destruction.\" [p.188] Demosthenes
@APMUMBP That is how historians write about independent ancient Greek states like Sparta , Athens Macedonia. All with a DISTINCT culture but of course totally unrelated to the former Bulgarians in Fyrom that uses Bulgarin names like Solun for ancient Mac. cities
"To his ancestors (to a Persian's ancestors) Macedonians were only known as 'yona takabara', the 'Greeks who wear shields on their heads', an allusion to their broad-brimmed hats.
@APMUMBP That is how historians write about independent ancient Greek states like Sparta , Athens Macedonia. All with a DISTINCT culture but of course totally unrelated to the former Bulgarians in Fyrom that uses Bulgarin names like Solun for ancient Mac. cities
"To his ancestors (to a Persian's ancestors) Macedonians were only known as 'yona takabara', the 'Greeks who wear shields on their heads', an allusion to their broad-brimmed hats.
2/2..They speak a Slavic language, part of a family of tongues brought to the Balkans by Slavic tribes in the sixth and seventh centuries, and first began to develop a unique national identity at the turn of the twentieth century. Nonetheless, [..] some of these citizens believe that they are in fact the descendants of Alexander the Great of Macedon, and as such “are not Slavs, but have a direct descent from the ancient Macedonians. " (Diana Muir & Paul S. Appelbaum: The Gene Wars)
@APMUMBP Lets see what the history books tells in the world
The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-05: (Cyril and Methodius, Saints) 869 and 884, respectively, Greek missionaries, brothers, called Apostles to the Slavs and fathers of Slavonic literature.
@jk34695 Ah is that why only the Pope invites the Macedonians to visit their graves? I have not seen or heard any greeks go. I guess you left that part out!!!
@jk34695 What does religon have to do with Macedonian being invite and not greeks. The reason Macedonians are being invited and not greeks its cause they were from Macedonia Solun. Fuck you are an idiot!!!
@jk34695 Oh wow you dont even know what they get invited too? LOL. Why are you then even talking. LOL. Oh man that was funny. Fuck you athenians are out to lunch again. LOL. You dont know why the pope invites the Macedonian president ever May to Rome!!! LMAO
1/2 "".. we can now turn to the use-or misuse-of genetic findings in the battle of territorial claims. The Macedonians, the Sami of northern Scandinavia, and Palestinians are three groups that have seized upon deeply problematic interpretations of new genetic evidence to bolster claims to sovereignty.[..] Most of today’s Macedonians are in fact citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, carved out of the remains of Yugoslavia in 1991[.....cont
@04lody04 it was a baskeball game, on Eurobasket 2011. Lithuania is the host. They played against Macedonia. Macedonia had 50 fans, Lithuania 14500, and the organiser wanted to stop the Macedonian fans to show a big flag. Unfair, but still Macedonia won the game and a place in the semi-final.
@04lody04 It was extremist nationalist from Fyrom that during the whole tournament have provoked trouble with different symbols. The former self determined Bulgarians from Fyrom that today call them self "Macedonians" had an Greek symbol on their flag which is copyrighted.
To Philly 2002 . You talk like a child. Lets show me any one real lithuanian who wants to speak Polish?? And i can't understand if you have your very nice country, why you think about another one ? We are small nation, and we want have our tradition, our teritory and our people. And talk about history is very stupid, before we have very large country too, but we don't say to ukra, that they are living in our places !
@jk34695 bularia was out in the first round. You fags got killed by Macedonia!!! You may want to read history a little and let me know why it took athens till 1988 to name northern greece Macedonia. When the first time they took it over was 1913 after the balkan wars. And since you are at it read why not one map was ever made of Macedonia being greek before 1913.
@jk34695 If they were bulgarians then why did they fight for an independent Macedonian state? Why did the bulgarian army in WW1 and WW1 killed women and children in Macedonia? Vardarska was called when the Serbs took us over after you took egej and the bulgarians took Pirin. But before it was called Macedonia. And there are many english and french maps showing the border of Macedonia.
"“We did indeed call ourselves “Bulgarians” and “Christians” in the national sense”"
“No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness,”
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. ..., but they wish to kill our Bulgarian consciousness. ”
@jk34695 You may want to re-read before you copy/paste something. Its shown how the bulgarians ripped pages out of his books. Also how they changed letters in words. Funny enoug it was greek historians in sofia that brought up points about about the lies they bulgarians are doing about Macedonian history. You may want to open a book!!!
@xXxWolverinexXx666 "It should be noted that there is no connection between the Macedonians of the time of Alexander the Great who were related to other HELLENIC tribes and the Macedonians of today (FYROM), who are of Slavic Origin and related to the Bulgarians."
(David H. Levinson, Encyclopaedia of World Cultures, p. 239)
@jk34695 It shows me how stupid you are if you use Encyclopaedia. Anyone can post on there. How about using some DNA from university of Barcelona or even the Swiss. They talk about how the DNA of todays greeks is african. Thats why todays greeks are the darker then any other people in the balkans. I guess also in the Encyclopaedia you use it talks about how when the slavs came to the balkans they killed all the people living there and then stopped at the greek border? LOL. What a joke!!!
@APMUMBP Dna report from Barcelonas was totally debunked and ridculued by the educated world. The swiss report was removed. All supported by the self determined Bulgarians from Fyrom.
Tsar Samuil the Bulgarian and fyroms ancestor was defeated by the Macedonians(Greek) at that time and removed from the area.
@APMUMBP The top DNA scients debunked it and Villena went to prison for fraud
1/2 "The limitations are made evident by the authors' extraordinary observations that Greeks are very similar to Ethiopians and east Africans but very distant from other south Europeans; and that the Japanese are nearly identical to west and south Africans. It is surprising that the authors were not puzzled by these anomalous results, which . cont
@jk34695 Macedonia has its own interests and its own politics which belong to the Macedonians. The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria, Greece, or Serbia, can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek, or Serb, but not as a good Macedonian". Gotse Delchev (1872-1903) I got a million. But I show where I get my info, unlike you!!!
@xXxWolverinexXx666 WHERE IS VERGINA?IN GREECE.WHERE IS PELLA?IN GREECE.WHERE IS THE STATUE OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT?IN GREECE.ARE THERE GREEK LETTERS IN EGYPT?YES,BECAUSE ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK.ASK YOUR GIRLFRIEND HOW MANY TIMES HAS SHE BEEN FUCKED BY ME.ALSO,I LOVE FUCKING YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY,DEEPLY
Treaty of Bucharest don't refer to a occupation!Probaply you read the usadonian-vardascian version!
In 1913 we freed Macedonia from the Ottoman slavery and bulgarian terrorism(you)!No sourse mentions your fake nation during this era!
300.000 Macedonians?In 1948,Greece had a civil war btw democratics and communists!The communists left then,not a fantastic macedonian nation!Those children are Greeks who were pressing by Tito and now they declare that
@xXxWolverinexXx666 HYPOCRITES!Look yourselves and after talk fror the others!Give rights to your minorities and shut up!Stop pressing the 200.000Greeks and thousard Bulgarians in your circus and shut up!
You are the Nazis,you were alliens of Hitler!
Your protectorate is based on the help of USA and EU!
But now the Congress desided stop the help and we will see who have problem and who must pay everything!
The minority repressing is an issue for evaluation by the human rights organisations.
Surprisingly, those same world established org. are the greatest critics when it comes to Greek minority situation...
Over and over again they are pointing out your fascism, and you ignorantly have the decency to come in and talk about our non-existing minority repressing? Get out of here you moron!!
You follow me everywhere and this shows your complex and hate against the truth!
Hypocrites,you are the last who have the right to talk about the human rights!
You have not this right when you do war against your minorities(2001,Albanians) or when you are pressing the Greeks and Bulgarians to declare Usadonians!Neither when you pute in prison the historians of your circus that they don't agree by your fascist theory!
MORON, I'm only telling you what the WORLD'S HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS are accentuating about the Greek minority repressing policy.
Ignorant loser.
If there WAS such a problem in Republic of Macedonia, those organisations would be the first to point it out, not some nationalistic piece of s*** like you.
Does your amoebic head understands what i'm talking about?
That's why i say that you are a psyhotic and fascist and hypocrite robot!
Cuz the international organizations quote also many things about your fascism and racism against your minorities!European Parliament and European Commite also quote your "love" for the human rights!
You say that you read the international organizations and you don't know all those facts?
@MacedoniaHellen Yes it is true they are like programmed Robots, ranting the same stuff from ultra nationalist sites over and over again.
The solution is esay they can just pick up the books from their heros from 100 years ago. I guess there is a reason the people by law in Fyrom are not allowed to do research about their roots
"And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”
(Krste Crvenkovski (President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia-to Todor Zhivkov First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria) – May 19, 1967
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SKOPIANS THIEVES OF GREEK HISTORY STOP USE THE NAME OF MACEDONIA THIS NAME BELONG TO GREECE YOU ARE A SLAV NATION
aenaosdorieas 5 days ago
fuck all enemies of macedonia
fucking siptars bulgasrians and gayreeks
drumercoka 6 days ago
@drumercoka fuck you and your motherland skopian asshole macedonia name belong to greece
aenaosdorieas 5 days ago
Tooooo Makedonci se ezam i sega koga go gledam videoto.
Taka treba samo takaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
X3X3X3LOVEX3X3X3 1 week ago
-Abe ne fakjaj racete da ti gi fatam michka ti materina. -Ne pipaj znameto be. -U usta da te ebam :D bravooo makedonci samo zaedno da se drzhime i nikoj nishto ne ni mozhe ;)
TrpeDj 1 month ago
ahgaha they failed and they LOSE IN that match! you freaking ugly people!
Only Macedonian fans know how to cheer for his country nobody other!
Sime4e1 1 month ago
ТАКА Е МОМЦИ, ТАКА СЕ БРАНАТ БОИТЕ НА МАКЕДОНИЈА !!! СЕКОЈА ЧЕСТ !!!
МАКЕДОНИЈА ЗАСЕКОГАШ!
MACEDONIA FOREVER!
soidae1 1 month ago
ДИГАЈ ГО БЕ КОЈ ГИ ЕБЕ xD
hahaha123443211 1 month ago
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Show to all the world cause they have to know. Europe can you see? These are the neighbours of my country, of Greece. Now you can see why the Greeks don't have friends arround them, cause almost all the neighbour (border) countries are uneducated, fanatics and brainwashed. Most are real gypsies and they only know to steal and get into fights. The people in the video have lost their identity and they try to be Macedonians. If you tell them the opposite they argue like animals.
MakedonasGrc 2 months ago
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CAKIMacedonian 2 months ago
НЕКА РАЗБЕРАТ КЛЕТИТЕ планинци-шиптари-арнаути МАКЕДОНСКО ИМЕ НЕМА ДА ЗАГИНЕ !!!
tasoboss 2 months ago
FUCK Gaygreece !!!
MACEDINIA FOREVER
tasoboss 2 months ago
"secutiry"
pacemaker2point0 3 months ago
SHAME on Lithuanian security and Police.
makedoncheto 3 months ago
lithuanians are fascists
xxxRedAssBaboon 4 months ago
long live MACEDONIA hahaha macedonian storz started from tito im sory you have not identity from albania....
albania441 4 months ago
i love love love reading these comments.. dont let these stupid ass donkey fucking greeks get to you. The poor broke ass fucks will need to go back to hearding sheep and beg for their bread..They can go on claiming in their delusional minds what is ours.. fuck them, fuck them all...LONG LIVE MACEDONIA!!!!
66cottoncandy99 4 months ago
UNITED MACEDONIA
MyStrumica 4 months ago
LONG LIVE MACEDONIAAA!!!!!
EvitaNasevska 5 months ago
i bet you half of fiba is greece they did not let us put macedonia on our shirts and tried to take away our flag even the refs against russis put the time back how is that even possible.
MrMkD4eVeR100 5 months ago
SHAME ON Lithuania. stopping the Macedonians from putting up their flag...
Shame Lithuania.....
makedoncheto 5 months ago
@makedoncheto MAY BE U CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP ? LOOK AT THIS PEOPLE.. WILD ANIMALS.. SHAME ON YOU MACEDONIA.
TheGaGaLT 5 months ago
@makedoncheto Shame Lithuania? WOW? Look how big was that fucking flag! You thinking you are alone in that arena? I don't think so...
FuckYouYoutubCall911 5 months ago
@FuckYouYoutubCall911 ... yes the Flag is big, but it was not going to cover the Lithuanian people, just the Macedonians..... there was no need to take the flag away.
look there was only a small section that was Macedonian, and that flag would have covered them only.
The flag was not against the Lithuanian people, it was not a rude / racist / anti Lithuania sign, it was just a Macedonian flag.
The Flag to support a small country with a big heart that was doing so well in the Basketball.
makedoncheto 5 months ago
@makedoncheto I saw that flag and yes, that flag would be covered Lithuanian fans
FuckYouYoutubCall911 5 months ago
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petdou2 5 months ago
I was at this game.
Macedonians tried to raise their flag on Lithuanian fan crowd. If they managed to that it would turned out into a riot. And since it was in Lithuania. Security saved your fans.
manvyd 5 months ago
the sad part part not realized by many, by FIBA rules, u had to approve flag that's bigger then normal flag, not lithuanian regulation, other thing polish P.O.S are using any momentum that schools of polish language will be downsized, even know we have best polish education outside of Poland (including lots and lots of polish in u.s.), i'm sure u will express those complains in next NATO meeting against u.s.
kasisto 5 months ago
Message to all those countries that were occupied by Macedonia through the ages: accept that fact and stop healing your complexes on youtube. You're worthless, and you'll stay worthless.
TheDestruction69 5 months ago
So lets finish this off. Alexander own words from ancient sources
"since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions. "
Alexander the Great addressing the dead Greeks of the battle of Chaeronia. Curtius Rufus, "Historia"
united by the same language, the same blood
You hill billy slavs are f*** hillariouse
petdou2 5 months ago 2
So lets compare the words of Alexander from ancient sources to the words of Fyroms hero Misirikov
"We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves. "
Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", 1903
ha ha ha what heck is wrong with you? You need ot be an uneducaed fool , avoid all modern historians , avoid ancient sources , to link former Bulgarians to Alexander.
Even the name AlexandAr MakedoSKI is hillarious - not even the sun is more ignorant ha ha ha
petdou2 5 months ago 2
Lets compare Alexanders words with your own heros words just 100 years.
"We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves. "
Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", Macedonian Review 1903
You must be quite dumb, avoid all historians in the world, avoid all ancient sources and uneucated to be able to link former Bulgarians to Alexander
AlexandAr MakedonSKI ha ha ha ha ha omg WHAT is WRONG with you ignorant fools, not even the sun can help you ha ha ha
petdou2 5 months ago
What the heck has former Bulgarians to do with Alexander. Educate yourself fools. Alexanders won speech from ancient sources:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you... "
Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea. Arrian, "Anabasis Alexandri", II, 14, 4
petdou2 5 months ago 3
To all slavo Bulgar extremist. Alexanders own words written down in ancient sources
"There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service - but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay - and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it. As for our foreign troops - Thracians, Paeonians"
Alexander the Great addressing his troops prior to the battle of Issus. Arrian, "Anabasis Alexandri", II, 7
petdou2 5 months ago 3
@MacedoniaHellen And it's like we don't have a tradition HA:)) all the people has a tradition even though you don't respect ours, 'cus you're afraid of the teritory to Thesalloniki 'cus it belongd to us ...and we know that brilliant and you want to change everything that we have as a nation, but that won't happend NEVER... WE are Macedonians not SKOPIANIANS...our name is MACEDONIA and if you have problem with that GO TO HELL!!!...
brandystock 5 months ago
@brandystock Your name Hellas in Greek means HELL...
tomicajovevski 5 months ago
06:09- "You madafakka" xD.
TubeNerd00 5 months ago
Sve chestitke na igri koju ste pokazali na prvenstvu. Chetvrto mesto je veliki uspeh. A ovi fashisti iz Litvanije su provocirali incident jer su se usrali. Nisu vam dozvolili da bodrite svoje momke,ali su izgubili. Nije im uspelo jer ima Boga. Njih 50 doshlo da uzme zastavu? Samo izgovor za provokaciju. Pozdrav iz Srbije!
slavaGospodu 5 months ago
–In the typical 16-pointed Sun , the 4 rays represent the 4 elements: Earth-Ocean-Fire-Air.
The other 12 rays represent the 12 Gods of Olympus.to all the Monkeydonians,just to know what the symbols which stole from other mean
pablogarciagate4 5 months ago
makedonec sum ali se nerviram koga gledam sto pravat makedoncite ovde >.<
TheOrichalco 5 months ago
@TheOrichalco што прават? Го бранат државното знаме!
gr3mmi 5 months ago
Shut up GIPSEES, we bit the hell out of you!
tomicajovevski 5 months ago
mater u picka mu ebem na ovoj u 4 29 frucking security
fuck europe shame on you they wanna took our flag
this is shame
gayreek job
drumercoka 5 months ago
mater u picka mu ebem na ovoj u 4 29
drumercoka 5 months ago
@MacedoniaHellen Watch the momment when he's taking the award for best shooter you'll see that only he is wearing the macedonian flag beside the awardwd players... HE IS OURS...and i know that you can't accept the fact that you've lost and now you looknig for reasons, but the basketball is a game which cannot be played individual...it's a game where you play as a team and we HAVE that team game....ANTIC, ILIEVSKI, VOJDAN ,CHEKOVSKI,SAMARDZISKI,McCAlebb and the coach Dokuzovski..cry greeks.WE WON
brandystock 5 months ago
@brandystock The fact is your desparate trying to make another hero Monkeydonian again!Like it or not,the player is American,by american origin,he learned basket in USA and he came in your circus cuz he is last in USA and cuz he take money!This is not the only examble for that!
Hypocrite,you make a game war and you started your bullshits..."we are the best"..."we kick your ass as Macedonians",etc!So,your advice to your fake nation!
You won one time and you lost thousard!
We don't want reasons..
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
ku*ac moj fail... uzese je ovi pacovi! trebali ste da ih iznabadate sve redom! vidji im mrte zrno-zute face!
mrMONTENENGRO 5 months ago
ne dajte se makedonci, potpora iz hrvatske
MrSerpico1988 5 months ago
Ovdje je veliku ulogu odigrao grčki lobi...Makedonci,nedajte svoje a nedajte ni na sebe...
TheAgramBoy 5 months ago
toliko potpore od hrvata, nevjerojatno. makedonci, grize li vas imalo savjest zbog, recimo, skandiranja "ustaški pički" kad god gostuje neka hrvatska sportska momčad u makedoniji?
drunk1kangaroo 5 months ago
@drunk1kangaroo Mene grize, tie koj skandiraat "usatski picki" su huligani nasi, to je sramota...
tomicajovevski 5 months ago
nedajte se makedonci...picka ima materina nek si mami otimaju zastavu
kucak 5 months ago 3
Screw greeks! Bosnia is with you
xyoop 5 months ago 5
To Makedonci, vole vas Hrvati
crohao 5 months ago 7
prijatelji makedonci hrvatska je uz vas sto je vase,vase je jebes grcku gorili su i gorit ce njima autobusi u zagrebu
donnodi1 5 months ago 6
KICK - AS - HELLAS
Skopje <3 Zagreb
footfantasy1 5 months ago
Oduvijek sam govorio da u Europi nema šugavijeg naroda od tih Grka . BRAĆO MAKEDONCI NEDAJTE SE , POVJEST VI PIŠETE A NE GRCI.
HRVATSKA JE UZ VAS !!!
footfantasy1 5 months ago 7
Кад неко нема своју историју он узме туђу!
goran2909 5 months ago
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goran2909 5 months ago
The Balkans, "powder keg of Europe", always will be
drunk1kangaroo 5 months ago
šta bre rade ovi fašisti ? Nedajte zastavu junaci !!!
petarslo13 5 months ago 3
Me bendisa delot, kaj sho ne mu go dadovte nasheto zname! bravooooooo :))
Maria77614 5 months ago
What was the problem with the flag ?!?
Macedonian original flag , fans supporting their beloved country, I don't see anything discutibile here.
Cheers from Croatia !
MrKukuriku0000 5 months ago
@MrKukuriku0000 I forgot to say: It was a real joy watching Macedonian matches in EuroBasket. Bravo Makedonija !
MrKukuriku0000 5 months ago
@MrKukuriku0000 Extremist nationalist having a copyrighted Greek symbol on their flag
This kind of ugly nationalist has nothing to do in the eurobasket
petdou1 5 months ago
this idiots are worst then Albanians that claim Kosovo is theirs. They are stealing Greek history and acting like it's nothing
Globox822 5 months ago
go home and rest fucking Globox, you can suck our dick....
tomicajovevski 5 months ago
@MacedoniaHellen BO gave his best for this country...he accepted Macedonia as his own country and if you want solace 'cus you lost the game...take it BO for free 'cus it's our HERO and he claimed that he's feeling like MACEDONIAN... your greek stupidity is limitless...like one of your priest expressed the reasons why you lost:)))...'cus of the MACEDONIAN falanga mask in the audience and they frightened you players hahahah... well THAT IS STUPIDITY...
brandystock 5 months ago
YOU KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENED??BECAUSE YOU TRIED TO DO POLITICS,RAISING A MONKEYDONIAN FLAG WITH THE GREEK SYMBOL OF VERGINA!!EVERYONE KNOWS THAT MACEDONIA IS GREEK AND NOT FYROMIAN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
pablogarciagate4 5 months ago
Nobody in EUROPE wants you lazy, ugly greeks, the Turkish don't want you, Macedonians don't want you, Albanians dont want you, Germany don't wont you, Slovenian don't want you,Ireland dont want you,in fact more than half of europe thinks the worsest of you, but on the other half nobody has any kind of problem with us the Macedonians but you, i've been once in Athens and I felt like i'm in Turkmenistan-there was more islamic and arabic people than cristians-what kind of country are you?!
tomicajovevski 5 months ago 46
@tomicajovevski i don't give a FUCK for who likes us!when you are jealous of a country with over 3000 history,you start talking about shit about us!!And WE ARE NOT LAZY!If you had read a recent research greeks work MORE THAN ANYONE IN EUROPE!But what could you expect from a country which makes propaganda....?How do you know about Slovenian and Irish,did you make any gallop?Secondly what you saw in athens were f****ing refugees from Pakistan,none wants them!we are not dark-skinned as you think!
pablogarciagate4 5 months ago
@pablogarciagate4 You, don't worry what europe thinks of you?That's your problem. That research you are meansioning is only media propaganda from your local tv stations. Just to calm you down..:( We here have also a history of 3000 years, we have churcher old 15-16-17 centuries old-what, thats not history. If you work so hard why do you have 300 bilion dept? Your country is based upon the credits of europe that you now can't return. Thats working nation? You tell me? MACEDONIA is timeless!!!!
tomicajovevski 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski we own too many cause our politics were stealing money IF you know why crisis was created!You have NOTHING!All findings in ancient Macedonia (coins,writtings ect) were written in GREEK!Guess why?Oh no,ancient Macedonians were a Hellenic tribe :( Secondly your language is close to Bulgarian and Slavs came to this area 6 centuries after Jesus Christ,long after Alexander the Great died!Any questions?
pablogarciagate4 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski look at your name too!it ends in -evski,probably Slavic name!Alexander's name comes from Αλεξανδρος (do you know what it means in ancient macedonian-Greek??).Another quiz for you : the greek symbol of Vergina sun what does it symbolize??Having a difficult time to answer?
pablogarciagate4 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski Are you desperate because you have no facts. Maybe instead you could explain what your hero Misirikov meant with these words!!
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. The Serbian not only want to colonize Macedonia with Serbs from other part of Yugoslavia, but they wish to kill our Bulgarian consciousness. ”
petdou1 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski
And so what if there is more islamic and arabic people ??? This humankind owe to much to Arabic people for many inventions and science inventions....Bosnians hate Greeks too !
nvgogolj 5 months ago
@nvgogolj I don't give a FUCK about your facts, it's all mislead by your socalled media and other false propaganda spreading socalled experts of yours.
You are a nation with more islamic people, and yet you declare as a cristian people. There are 1 million albanians, over 200 thousands Turkish in Trakia, and over 250 thousand
Macedonians above Thesaloniki, i know i've been there and spoken on my language there. Can you tell me why the people there for example in Galatases, Janica,
tomicajovevski 5 months ago 2
@tomicajovevski
Glupane nisam jebeni grk...mrzim ih kao i ti !
nvgogolj 5 months ago
@nvgogolj Izvini brate, od mrznje kon ovih Grci poludeo sam, nemogu ih podnesiti kao nacija.
tomicajovevski 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski oh yeah i guess you are a genious just like all the other monkeys right? You went to slovenia and asked them if they like us? no you are just saying that. I get it! you are just stupid. And btw WHO WANTS YOU? take a look at the video! you have no class! you are screwed! you are like NOTHING! and half of the countries IN THE ENTIREWORLD dont even know your country exists. You are not in eurozone because you have no name! you are WORTHLESS!! and as always we win:) bye "FYR"
hplonglive 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski and dont even comment on our people. Half of the people in your country is of other descent. Thats the reason you are so jealous of us. because 85% of us are GREEKS and 90% are christians. You are like everything mixed together! 'fyromonkeydonkeylosers'
hplonglive 5 months ago
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@tomicajovevski I LOVE FUCKING YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY...
nikosntar95 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski Shut up monkeydonian...you have no relationship with the ancient Macedonians.
a1p2o3s4 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski Turkey is not in Europe :D
oskaras77 5 months ago
@tomicajovevski
Another poor Monkeydonian...You didnt tell us who want you in the E.U?You talk about Turks,Monkeydonians and Albanians that they dont want us..then why they kiss ur ass so they can participate in the E.U?The Germans you little fool guy they dont want us?thats why they all come to visit Greece...
All the arabs that you saw on the street are illegal immigrants...it s strange that the come to Greece to find a job and not in your country...?i guess not...
elcolpador13 4 months ago
@tomicajovevski turkey albania are not in the EU and so do you
PistoleroAlexpolis 4 months ago
FYROM FUCKING IDIOTS!MAKEDONIA IS GREEK!!
pablogarciagate4 5 months ago
hrvat sam ali tako treba..nedajte sto je vase!
orwandill 5 months ago 39
@orwandill pa neli tako je :P pozz from Gevgelija :D
Kostadinfy 5 months ago
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Greek fans were there? If not, there were Vardaskanians...
"Macedonia is also Greece" Stravon, Ancient Philosopher, 63 BC
jpaokx 5 months ago
fuck you SKOPJE
mourlos293 5 months ago
This is your nation!
Always problems!
Your stupidity has not limit!
You always make problems and after you dare to call the other rasists!
You were the most worst funs in this Eurobasket,far from the Olympic Spirit!
But how is possible for you to feel the human spirit since you are robots and machines!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
fucking gayreeks take get out of here
go in ethyopia you hellasses
drumercoka 5 months ago
@drumercoka Fucking brainless Usadonians!
Always hypocrites!
Why you don't have problem when you go tho the greek videos and you write your bullshits?
Why you only!
We do the same!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
The whole world is against of your stupid nationalism!Nobody can accept that you make a festival peace,as battle for your nazism!
You are the most worst people in Europe!
Far from the european ideas!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
Fuck you HATERS...don't mix this with history... we beat the lithuanians but they offended us by trying to take our symbol of the state-the flag... and can't just past like that...they should treat us as the others... WE ARE THE SURPRISE AND THE TEAM THAT HAS A GOOD GAME....NO ONE CAN TAKE THE GAME< WE HAVE IT:) LOVE YOU MACEDONIA!!!
brandystock 5 months ago 3
@brandystock McAleb is Skopian? HAHAHAHA!! The next championship you are gonna play after Eurobasket is NCAA!!! LOL!!!!!!
MyGamao 5 months ago
@MyGamao YOU IDIOT...Bo McCaleb(BOSHKO MEKEJLEBOVSKI)as you can see he got his macedonian name on his identification macedonia card.... is naturalized MACEDONIAN and he plays with whole heart and soul on the pitch for our state...AND because you're greek and because you LOST you just can shut your mouth... we'll see soon on the Olympic games...bye bye HATER:)
brandystock 5 months ago
@brandystock He has never lived or played in Fyrom - looolski He get the request just some months ago
He want and stayed in a hotel
Maybe next time you can get Koby Bryant - loooolski
jk34695 5 months ago
But of course what do the former Bulgarians from Fyrom not do to get some glory
Now Bo McCaleb is an "ethnik Macedonian" like Tsar Samuil the Bulgarian or Alexander the Greek ha ha ha
jk34695 5 months ago
So everybody want to suck macedonian cock haha fucking sluts come and get some
RommelPilaf 5 months ago
What do you think f**king villagers...? Europe is like your village-country..? Or other races of the Europe has your before-Christ-balkan way of thinking. You 've learned being well treated by Greece (Big MIstake) but this kind of provocative behavior is not allowed abroad...
lasthopeman 5 months ago
an other source
"Saint Cyril (Greek: Κύριλλος, Church Slavonic: Кирилъ) (827 - February 14, 869) was a Byzantine Greek[1] monk, scholar, theologian, and linguist. He is best known today for his work in Christianising the Slavs and, with his brother Saint Methodius, is credited with devising the Glagolithic and rarely also with devising the Cyrillic alphabet. "
jk34695 5 months ago
Cyril contributed to Slavic culture, as in a lot, so it's natural that many extremists and Pan-Slavists will try to claim them as their own. This of course has nothing to do with the historical facts: That he was a Byzantine Greek missionary of Christianity to the enemies of the Byzantine Empire, which included Slavs, Arabs and all the places the two brothers visisted.
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 You still didnt answer me where they were born? Where did they form the language? You also left out why greece waited until 1988 to name northern greece Macedonia
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP They where born in Thessaloniki (named after Alexanders sister) which Bulgarians call with the Bulgarian name - Solun
jk34695 5 months ago
Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people. We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia."
Georgievski in his book "С лице към истината" (Facing the truth)
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Ah from a bulgarian book. Then its 100% correct. Then why was Delcev killed by bulgarians? Why was Sandanski killed by bulgarians. Why is Petrov barried in Bulgaria yet on his grave it shows died for united Macedonia. Did you not read at the bottom how bulgarians changed books words and history? Or you just copy/paste everything.
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP Sure Milidanov brothers where self determined Bulgarians and their famouse work is in original called Bulgarian folksongs
guess what it is falsified to in Fyrom ;-)))
jk34695 5 months ago
You are totally misslead by the propaganda in your country
How can you claim both Greek and Bulgarian heros. Two totally separated cultures
The reason is you where self determined Bulgarians
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Hey loser how can they be greek or bulgarian when they were fighting for ain independent Macedonian state? Do you even read the posts. I guess not since your only knowledge of history is copy/paste. Every point you were bringing up I was showing you how it was a lie. Yet you could not answer one of my questions. Nothing new there every african from athens ends up the same way!!! Your lies are done
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP Let your own hero answer your question
Ivan Hadzhinikolov in his memoirs states one of the principles of the IMRO’s foundation
“The revolutionary organization should be established within Macedonia and should act there, so that the Greeks and Serbs couldn’t label it as a tool of the Bulgarian government.”
petdou2 5 months ago 2
@APMUMBP Or let an other hero answer your question
Hristo Tatarchev – founding member BMARC/IMRO
“We talked a long time about the goal of this organization and at last we fixed it on autonomy of Macedonia with the priority of the Bulgarian element. .... It passed through our thoughts that one autonomous Macedonia could easier unite with Bulgaria…”
petdou2 5 months ago 2
Any source the proves your point or is all your historical knowledge implanted by your government?
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Now since I am answering all your questions you going to answer any of mine?
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP wow was the event just big news in Fyrom he he he
man you are totally manipulated. Not one sentence of your home made history can be found in history books outside of Fyrom
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 29] \"For if any non-Greek power, whether Persian or Macedonian, were to achieve world dominion, the typical form of the Greek state would suffer death and destruction.\" [p.188] Demosthenes
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP That is how historians write about independent ancient Greek states like Sparta , Athens Macedonia. All with a DISTINCT culture but of course totally unrelated to the former Bulgarians in Fyrom that uses Bulgarin names like Solun for ancient Mac. cities
"To his ancestors (to a Persian's ancestors) Macedonians were only known as 'yona takabara', the 'Greeks who wear shields on their heads', an allusion to their broad-brimmed hats.
Robin Lane Fox, "Alexander the Great", p.104
petdou2 5 months ago
@APMUMBP That is how historians write about independent ancient Greek states like Sparta , Athens Macedonia. All with a DISTINCT culture but of course totally unrelated to the former Bulgarians in Fyrom that uses Bulgarin names like Solun for ancient Mac. cities
"To his ancestors (to a Persian's ancestors) Macedonians were only known as 'yona takabara', the 'Greeks who wear shields on their heads', an allusion to their broad-brimmed hats.
Robin Lane Fox, "Alexander the Great", p.104
petdou2 5 months ago 3
2/2..They speak a Slavic language, part of a family of tongues brought to the Balkans by Slavic tribes in the sixth and seventh centuries, and first began to develop a unique national identity at the turn of the twentieth century. Nonetheless, [..] some of these citizens believe that they are in fact the descendants of Alexander the Great of Macedon, and as such “are not Slavs, but have a direct descent from the ancient Macedonians. " (Diana Muir & Paul S. Appelbaum: The Gene Wars)
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Who formed the slavi language? Where were they from and where did they form it?
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP Lets see what the history books tells in the world
The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-05: (Cyril and Methodius, Saints) 869 and 884, respectively, Greek missionaries, brothers, called Apostles to the Slavs and fathers of Slavonic literature.
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Ah is that why only the Pope invites the Macedonians to visit their graves? I have not seen or heard any greeks go. I guess you left that part out!!!
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP They where not Chatolic and has nothing to do with the pove. They where Orthodox and the enmeis of the chatolic - loooolski
How much propaganda do you get in fyrom
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 What does religon have to do with Macedonian being invite and not greeks. The reason Macedonians are being invited and not greeks its cause they were from Macedonia Solun. Fuck you are an idiot!!!
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP invited to what. Cyril and metodius are celebrated across the all the Ortodox churches. They have nothing to do with the Chatolics.
Your propaganda is the reason your church is not recognised by other Ortodox Churches
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Oh wow you dont even know what they get invited too? LOL. Why are you then even talking. LOL. Oh man that was funny. Fuck you athenians are out to lunch again. LOL. You dont know why the pope invites the Macedonian president ever May to Rome!!! LMAO
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP ha ha sure that is what they potray the meeting in Fyrom he he he
jk34695 5 months ago
1/2 "".. we can now turn to the use-or misuse-of genetic findings in the battle of territorial claims. The Macedonians, the Sami of northern Scandinavia, and Palestinians are three groups that have seized upon deeply problematic interpretations of new genetic evidence to bolster claims to sovereignty.[..] Most of today’s Macedonians are in fact citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, carved out of the remains of Yugoslavia in 1991[.....cont
jk34695 5 months ago
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jk34695 5 months ago
Wtf is going on between lithuana and macedonia
04lody04 5 months ago
@04lody04 it was a baskeball game, on Eurobasket 2011. Lithuania is the host. They played against Macedonia. Macedonia had 50 fans, Lithuania 14500, and the organiser wanted to stop the Macedonian fans to show a big flag. Unfair, but still Macedonia won the game and a place in the semi-final.
vesnastojanova 5 months ago
@04lody04 It was extremist nationalist from Fyrom that during the whole tournament have provoked trouble with different symbols. The former self determined Bulgarians from Fyrom that today call them self "Macedonians" had an Greek symbol on their flag which is copyrighted.
jk34695 5 months ago
To Philly 2002 . You talk like a child. Lets show me any one real lithuanian who wants to speak Polish?? And i can't understand if you have your very nice country, why you think about another one ? We are small nation, and we want have our tradition, our teritory and our people. And talk about history is very stupid, before we have very large country too, but we don't say to ukra, that they are living in our places !
AsEsuAdas 5 months ago
Of course former self determined Bulgarians should not steal others historical symbols.
Imagine if some Russians extremist nationalist would enter euro basket with flags with Lithuanian symbols.
This kind of ugly nationalism( nazis) has nothing to do in eurobasket.
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 bularia was out in the first round. You fags got killed by Macedonia!!! You may want to read history a little and let me know why it took athens till 1988 to name northern greece Macedonia. When the first time they took it over was 1913 after the balkan wars. And since you are at it read why not one map was ever made of Macedonia being greek before 1913.
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP 1913 your ancestors where still self determined Bulgarians
ha ha you are all like programmed robots ha ha with facts from your home made nationalist sites
The name of Macedonia is Greek and have been used all the time hence there are universities and newspapers , football teams with the name of Macedonia
Dont forget Fyrom was called Vardarska before 1944 when your new identity and language was created
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 If they were bulgarians then why did they fight for an independent Macedonian state? Why did the bulgarian army in WW1 and WW1 killed women and children in Macedonia? Vardarska was called when the Serbs took us over after you took egej and the bulgarians took Pirin. But before it was called Macedonia. And there are many english and french maps showing the border of Macedonia.
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP The words from your hero Misirikov
"“We did indeed call ourselves “Bulgarians” and “Christians” in the national sense”"
“No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness,”
“We are Bulgarian more than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. ..., but they wish to kill our Bulgarian consciousness. ”
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 You may want to re-read before you copy/paste something. Its shown how the bulgarians ripped pages out of his books. Also how they changed letters in words. Funny enoug it was greek historians in sofia that brought up points about about the lies they bulgarians are doing about Macedonian history. You may want to open a book!!!
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@nikosntar95 Sorry my gayreece friend i have a girlfriend .. so i am not a fag xD
Probably your father starring in a gay porn lol
You should ask him
Do you mean Greece is Macedonia ?
Simply because Philip the second is the conqueror of greece
Open google or some books and learn history
Dont be stupid like everyone there... Your country going down with the economic crisis , soon you gonna have to eat your own shit just to survive
Have a nice day and dont forget to ask ur father about the film
xXxWolverinexXx666 5 months ago
@xXxWolverinexXx666 "It should be noted that there is no connection between the Macedonians of the time of Alexander the Great who were related to other HELLENIC tribes and the Macedonians of today (FYROM), who are of Slavic Origin and related to the Bulgarians."
(David H. Levinson, Encyclopaedia of World Cultures, p. 239)
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 It shows me how stupid you are if you use Encyclopaedia. Anyone can post on there. How about using some DNA from university of Barcelona or even the Swiss. They talk about how the DNA of todays greeks is african. Thats why todays greeks are the darker then any other people in the balkans. I guess also in the Encyclopaedia you use it talks about how when the slavs came to the balkans they killed all the people living there and then stopped at the greek border? LOL. What a joke!!!
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP Dna report from Barcelonas was totally debunked and ridculued by the educated world. The swiss report was removed. All supported by the self determined Bulgarians from Fyrom.
Tsar Samuil the Bulgarian and fyroms ancestor was defeated by the Macedonians(Greek) at that time and removed from the area.
You better educate yourself.
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Show me where it was debunked!!! Stop with your lies!!!
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP The top DNA scients debunked it and Villena went to prison for fraud
1/2 "The limitations are made evident by the authors' extraordinary observations that Greeks are very similar to Ethiopians and east Africans but very distant from other south Europeans; and that the Japanese are nearly identical to west and south Africans. It is surprising that the authors were not puzzled by these anomalous results, which . cont
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 SHow me stop posgting it. You need to have proof of what you are talking about. Stop with your lies they went to prison. LOL. Thats funny.
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@APMUMBP What did your ancestor mean with these words?
"“No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness,”"
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 Macedonia has its own interests and its own politics which belong to the Macedonians. The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria, Greece, or Serbia, can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek, or Serb, but not as a good Macedonian". Gotse Delchev (1872-1903) I got a million. But I show where I get my info, unlike you!!!
APMUMBP 5 months ago
@xXxWolverinexXx666 WHERE IS VERGINA?IN GREECE.WHERE IS PELLA?IN GREECE.WHERE IS THE STATUE OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT?IN GREECE.ARE THERE GREEK LETTERS IN EGYPT?YES,BECAUSE ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS GREEK.ASK YOUR GIRLFRIEND HOW MANY TIMES HAS SHE BEEN FUCKED BY ME.ALSO,I LOVE FUCKING YOUR MOTHER'S PUSSY,DEEPLY
nikosntar95 5 months ago
@nikosntar95 You cant fuck even a worm with ur tiny 2 cm dick , you should do more handjob , maybe x10 times per day cuz u r 16 years old little kid
Treaty of Bucharest (1913) - Macedonia occupied in 1913 ( balkan war's ) by Greece , Bulgaria
Exodus over 300.000 Macedonians (1948) - Macedonian Refugee Children from the Aegean Macedonia ( today Northern Greece )
Your country have a Nazi Political government even today -> Face the Truth !
Greece already going down
Soon gonna pay for everything
xXxWolverinexXx666 5 months ago
@xXxWolverinexXx666 Go fuck yourself Usadonian!
Treaty of Bucharest don't refer to a occupation!Probaply you read the usadonian-vardascian version!
In 1913 we freed Macedonia from the Ottoman slavery and bulgarian terrorism(you)!No sourse mentions your fake nation during this era!
300.000 Macedonians?In 1948,Greece had a civil war btw democratics and communists!The communists left then,not a fantastic macedonian nation!Those children are Greeks who were pressing by Tito and now they declare that
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@xXxWolverinexXx666 HYPOCRITES!Look yourselves and after talk fror the others!Give rights to your minorities and shut up!Stop pressing the 200.000Greeks and thousard Bulgarians in your circus and shut up!
You are the Nazis,you were alliens of Hitler!
Your protectorate is based on the help of USA and EU!
But now the Congress desided stop the help and we will see who have problem and who must pay everything!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@MacedoniaHellen My Nazi gayreece friend dont get upset
Already whole European union hates you cuz your fag country going down with the economy crisis
At the moment Gayreece is the biggest poor hole in EU
My Country MACEDONIA has been recognized by more than 120 country !!!
Just Watch the Giant Statue of Alexander in Skopje and Cry haha
We are Macedonians and you nothing gonna do about it.
We will see now in 2013 with the Treaty of Bucharest
Soon our Solun ( Thessaloniki ) coming back to us !
xXxWolverinexXx666 5 months ago
@xXxWolverinexXx666
The fact says Nazi Gaydonian assholl don't write bullshits!
Germany is not the whole EU!Guess how many people hate you!
At the moment Gaydonia is the biggest poor in whole Europe!
90 countries recognize you as FYROM or they recognize you never!
On the contrary 205 countries support that Macedonia is Greece!
Your statue for the Greek hero shows your stupidity and only!(EU,USA declare that)
In 2013 you will again a political game of the NWO!
History says Thessaloniki!Try again
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@Dalton , you are blabbering everywhere? LOOOOL
Listen, you fascistic idiot.
The minority repressing is an issue for evaluation by the human rights organisations.
Surprisingly, those same world established org. are the greatest critics when it comes to Greek minority situation...
Over and over again they are pointing out your fascism, and you ignorantly have the decency to come in and talk about our non-existing minority repressing? Get out of here you moron!!
The007TBuster 5 months ago
@The000BustardOf Slavalbanians
You follow me everywhere and this shows your complex and hate against the truth!
Hypocrites,you are the last who have the right to talk about the human rights!
You have not this right when you do war against your minorities(2001,Albanians) or when you are pressing the Greeks and Bulgarians to declare Usadonians!Neither when you pute in prison the historians of your circus that they don't agree by your fascist theory!
Get lost asshol and pute your thinking in ass!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@DaltonAnemicO.
MORON, I'm only telling you what the WORLD'S HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS are accentuating about the Greek minority repressing policy.
Ignorant loser.
If there WAS such a problem in Republic of Macedonia, those organisations would be the first to point it out, not some nationalistic piece of s*** like you.
Does your amoebic head understands what i'm talking about?
The007TBuster 5 months ago
@The000BustardOfSlavalbanians
That's why i say that you are a psyhotic and fascist and hypocrite robot!
Cuz the international organizations quote also many things about your fascism and racism against your minorities!European Parliament and European Commite also quote your "love" for the human rights!
You say that you read the international organizations and you don't know all those facts?
Your gold medal in the stupidity is 100% yours!
I understand that i have right for you!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@MacedoniaHellen Yes it is true they are like programmed Robots, ranting the same stuff from ultra nationalist sites over and over again.
The solution is esay they can just pick up the books from their heros from 100 years ago. I guess there is a reason the people by law in Fyrom are not allowed to do research about their roots
jk34695 5 months ago
@jk34695 I agree by brother and when they can't prove your bullshits,their programm start the curses!LOL!LOL!
LOL!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago
@MacedoniaHellen he he yes you know exactly their reactions.
Then when they cant come up with any facts then the words are , Ethiopians , Negroids , Hell-ass
They all have exact the same reaction.
jk34695 5 months ago
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@The007TBuster Lets focus on YOUR history
"And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”
(Krste Crvenkovski (President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia-to Todor Zhivkov First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria) – May 19, 1967
jk34695 5 months ago
@The000BustardOfSlavalbanians
Listen hypocrite!
All of your words exist first for you!
Go fuck yourself now!
MacedoniaHellen 5 months ago