I guess not. Democrats have had only two White House winning candidates in the last 40 years. Democrats frequently pick losers to run. And once again, they've picked the weaker candidate.
Have you ever heard of Bill??? He wasn't a loser.. but just because she is his wife doesn't mean she is the stronger candidate.. You just watch as see Old Fart Mccain fail with flying colors! Noone wants another Screw Up in the white House.. who happens to be Republican ... The biggest screw up of all time! George Bush Junior!
I also fail to see how George W. Bush and John McCain are the same. McCain had national experience before running, Bush did not. McCain has taken moderate positions many times and has also stood up as a maverick against his party. Bush did not.
If you want to make it solely about the war, that is your choice. But I assure you Democrats are partly to blame for this. There are many books that show Democrats either ignoring terrorism or getting in the way of fighting it.
What you SAID was Democrats frequently pick losers to run and ONCE again they've picked the weaker candidate? Which would mean obviously that you think Obama is the weaker candidate DUMMY.. scroll up and read what YOU wrote! Also it's not about WAR it's about BUSH avenging his father for all the money lost when He tried to Pay billions of dollars for oil that the country never received from them.. and now he's set this whole lie to go invade their country based solely on Oil purposes.
You seem hostile. Please refrain from calling me things like "dummy" and "I'm such a failure". I noticed Liberals resort to attacking the people, versus the content of their argument.
ONCE AGAIN - I said that the Dems tend to pick losers to run, with few exceptions, so it is a fair argument to say, historically, that they are more likely to pick another loser and I personally think they did.
What would you like to be called then Dum Dum Pop! Hostile... more like fancy free enjoying this debate. John Mccain said 100 years or more.. I didn't say it... and I've never heard of Barack saying anything of the sort and I've been following him for a loong time other than you who excepts Republican propaganda... and even if he does leave some troops there I guess he would HAVE to since we are soo deep in Bush's crap.. that we can't leave it unfinished.. Also AGE and Color are very different.
Sooo if you choose to be a racist and spurt out racials slurs be my guest because it shows the true reason why many don't like Obama in the first place. It has nothing to do with inexperience or anything else. It's his color.
So it's fair to belittle someone based on their age, but not their skin color. I think it's foolish to belittle based on EITHER. You have a double standard here - and most Liberals do. I know strong Democrats who would scream if they heard a black joke, but laugh at sexist jokes too. I have a zero tolerance policy on sexism, racism, or ageism. ALL ARE WRONG.
If you think McCain's age would put him at a disadvantage cognitively you can say that.
But to call him an "old azz" is disrespectful and evidence of ageism against John McCain.
You must keep in mind I am an independent and have no ties to Republicans.
And it is somewhat pompous and arrogant to suggest the only reason people don't want Obama is his skin color. Republicans don't vote for Democrats - whether black or white - first of all. Secondly he has flaws just like other candidates and those flaws do not appeal to me.
(Yawn) You are such a bore. Mccain is oooold. Everyone knows it and being old and Barack is black everyone knows that too but which one impairs your judgment.. AGE :)
Yet you chose to write an offensive ageism remark "old azz" instead of writing a coherent comment like you finally have now.
McCain has already had a full medical review and he is healthy - both physically and cognitively. We've had both good and lousy presidents of all ages.
And if age is such a factor - I suggest you protest the Democrat senators over 70 like Ted Kennedy or Robert Byrd (who is 90) in charge of voting on serious national legislation.
Unless you believe that older people have enough cognitive ability to be US SENATORS! and responsbile for serious legislation but not quite able to be president.
Old people are too conservative and REVERT to the old way naturally because it's what they are comfortable with. That is one of the reasons why MCcain choosed to continue the war cause he is an old man afraid of changing.
If Bush liked Black people so much why didn't he respond Quicker to Hurricane Katrina huh?? We all know the make up of New Orleans.. besides there ARE black republicans so there are odds and I'm sure some of them have applied to run.. I'm not a fool.
You're implying he didn't react to New Orleans swiftly because of racism? That's a lame cop out. Couldn't it just be he does idiotic things? I also recall the same president went on continuing to read a storybook to children when first told about 9/11 as it happened.
I'd say the poor reaction to Katrina is more a test to an area of Bush incompetency than to an area of Bush racism.
When only 10% of black voters choose Republican they're 9 times less likely to be involved with the GOP.
Based on the black Americans, as a percent, involved in the Republican party - since it already took this long for a black American to be voted the nominee in the DEMOCRAT party, that has 9 times the black involvement - it will take many more years to have a black Republican nominee based on comparable Democrat standards.
"Old people are too conservative and REVERT to the old way naturally because it's what they are comfortable with."??
You're words make you sound agiest (if that's a word). If another minority was being generalized, stereotyped and insulted in this way you wouldn't stand for it. You seem to have this double standard against older people.
McCain chooses to continue the war because he is a Republican and supports it. He thinks pulling out will be a disaster..and it might be.
Old AZZ like I said.. Ageism MY ass... how about that! People not voting for Barack based on color is only for the democrats DUhh what republican would vote for a democrat you Dum Dum pop? (sigh) Then you are just a waste of time you independent.. Stand for something instead of criticizing everything! Except for REPUBLICANS
"Then you are just a waste of time you independent"???
I don't think I should be stuck with one party no matter what. Why sould I stay with a single party and do whatever they tell me? Candidates each party offers has varied and I shouldn't vote for someone I don't like becuase the party says to.
McCain is also very sharp and it would be foolish to imply he's old and won't be able to do anything. McCain's mother is like 96 and she's as sharp as ever herself.
He's made many stupid gaffes and mixups just like a younger Obama.
I actually think Obama's few redeeming qualities IS his skin color. Even though I would not want Barack to be president ever - I do think it would be impressive that our country would vote for a half black man and it's been too long without a president with a different racial or gender backgroud.
Mind you I don't think him being president will change much in the fight against racism or for continued civil rights - but symbolically it would be good for America.
It's been too long.. more like IT hasn't been.. Look at the facts of our history. And you thinking that his skin color is a redeeming quality that is more like REvert Racism. When has a Republican voted on another race or gender as one of their nominees? Never because they are conservatives (meaning they don't like change) Don't play me for a fool.
Well there aren't that many black Republicans so the odds of a black Republican running is low in the first place.
But I guess Bush was racist when he made Colin Powell the FIRST black American to hold that position. And later made Condi Rice the first black female it.
Ironically, Condi's father was a Republican because the racist Democrats of Alabama wouldn't allow him to reigster to vote, while the Republicans would.
Reagan, a Republican, passed MLK day - the first and only federal holiday that recognizes a black American.
The KKK was formed by radcial DEMOCRATS.
Republican Party was formed by the anti-slavery movement.
Through history Republicans have been advocates of black Americans. For example in1935 Democrats defeated an anti-lynching that REPUBLICANS had put forth.
Democrat senators like Robert Byrd where fond of the KKK back in the 50s. It is well documented.
Aaand if Bush liked black people so much.. WHY on EARTH did it take him the last year of his 8 year term to go to an Naacp meeting in which he's been invited on SEVERAL occasions?? HMMM?????? Can you answer that?? He is using Condeeliza and Colin Powell as a distraction of his racism.
He isn't exactly going to appear at events where the people don't like him. I wouldn't see Bush going to a Planned Parenthood convention anytime either.
I guess Obama skipping on the congressional black caucus annual meeting, while Hillary went is okay in your books. Barack chose to campaign at a nearby university instead of appearing - most likely figuring he has the black demographic in his back pocket automatically, taking for granted, and could campaign instead of attending the event.
blah BLAHHH... He made Colin Powell his little puppy to run and tell Us that he found weapons of mass destruction and Colin Powell DENIED him of that AND he removed his self from that position because of it.. and Bush is screwing Condileeza Rice that's why she is still there and the secret service men have admitted that... so whatever.. He wanted to put the blame of his war on someone which Happened to be a black man.. Screw Bush. He likes black people.. Pish Posh
"Have you ever heard of Bill??? He wasn't a loser.. but just because she is his wife doesn't mean she is the stronger candidate.."
I responded to your comment that you think he isn't weak in a general election because he won the Democratic nomination. Which history shows is not really a strong argument.
I also never said Hillary was a strong candidate because Bill was.
And yes.. you are such a failure for not seeing how George and John are the same especially since Bush has held a fundraising campaign Privately to raise money for Mccain!! AND the fact the MCCAin wants to continue a losing war. We've lost too many soldiers already and I guess it would take YOU going to Iraq and losing your life to figure that out.. You just might be next if you vote for Mccain.. because trust me. Drafting is the next step! And not it's Bush to blame..
John McCain does not "WANT to continue a war for 100 years more". He said troops will be there as long as it takes to achieve the goal, and if that unfortunately is a crazy number like 100 years - then so be it. You do know we still have troops in countries we invaded years ago right? And you do know Barack's plan is to leave some troops in Iraq?
I wouldn't use a racist term about Barack - so I would hope you would refrain from insulting McCain's age "his old azz".
Who did you expect Bush to fundraise for? A Democrat? Republicans will stick together. Even Hillary will back Obama, since she is a Democrat. McCain and Bush don't have the best relationship and disagree on a lot - but they are both from the same party and have some allegiance.
You're argument is that if I was actually fighting in a war where I could die, I would be opposed to it. I agree. But I would have agreed during WWII if I was in the war then. Why would I be for a war where I might die
I recall Liberals warning women that abortion would be banned and criminalied if Bush got elected. Well....he got elected twice and I'm pretty sure abortion still exists.
It reminds me of Liberals saying that we shouldn't invade Iraq or the Middle East because they'll retaliate with bioweapons or bombs. While at the same time claiming those countires have no WMDs, so no reason to invade.
If you are so against removing an evil dictator who murdered his own people - where you rallying in the streets with signs chanting "Save Saddam"??
Or is it, that you're for the removal of Saddam but just as long as it's magically done with no one getting hurt. Maybe Saddam would have stepped down if we asked really really politely?
The guy had facilities 2 make weapons of mass destruction & had used bioweapons on his own people in the past. He wasn't keeping the facilities as decoration.
Uhhh Hello DUM DUM POP.. they didn't find WEAPONS of Mass destruction.. and why shouldn't a country have their weapons just like we do?? It's about Diplomacy.. but America wants to be everyones bully invading their land and telling them what they can and can not do.. Also if you knew anything you would know that the witnesses to 911 said that it was not American aircraft that crashed into the buildings AND that they heard a bomb before the aircraft so called HIT. Get the facts..
I wouldn't have put it past BOTH Democrats and Republicans to have cheated in 2000. There have been equal reports to say that there was some funny business with Dem voting throughout the country, just like Republicans. President is picked by electoral vote, not popular vote. Bush won Florida and the Supreme Court approved it.
She is steel. She doesn't even look sad giving up. And also having to endorse a weaker candidate.
shonester 3 years ago
You know the saying, "Hers to lose?". Well this is it. The Presidency was her's to lose. And she lost it.
Like Bush, she did not understand the challenges facing her. She charged into war (Primaries) unprepared, cocky and with no exit strategy.
It has to suck to throw away the hundred million dollars that would have come with being the first female president.
mcowan 3 years ago
Weaker candidate??? He won! How weak is that??
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
Ever heard of John Kerry? McGovern? Dukakis?
I guess not. Democrats have had only two White House winning candidates in the last 40 years. Democrats frequently pick losers to run. And once again, they've picked the weaker candidate.
shonester 3 years ago
Have you ever heard of Bill??? He wasn't a loser.. but just because she is his wife doesn't mean she is the stronger candidate.. You just watch as see Old Fart Mccain fail with flying colors! Noone wants another Screw Up in the white House.. who happens to be Republican ... The biggest screw up of all time! George Bush Junior!
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
I also fail to see how George W. Bush and John McCain are the same. McCain had national experience before running, Bush did not. McCain has taken moderate positions many times and has also stood up as a maverick against his party. Bush did not.
If you want to make it solely about the war, that is your choice. But I assure you Democrats are partly to blame for this. There are many books that show Democrats either ignoring terrorism or getting in the way of fighting it.
shonester 3 years ago
What you SAID was Democrats frequently pick losers to run and ONCE again they've picked the weaker candidate? Which would mean obviously that you think Obama is the weaker candidate DUMMY.. scroll up and read what YOU wrote! Also it's not about WAR it's about BUSH avenging his father for all the money lost when He tried to Pay billions of dollars for oil that the country never received from them.. and now he's set this whole lie to go invade their country based solely on Oil purposes.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
You seem hostile. Please refrain from calling me things like "dummy" and "I'm such a failure". I noticed Liberals resort to attacking the people, versus the content of their argument.
ONCE AGAIN - I said that the Dems tend to pick losers to run, with few exceptions, so it is a fair argument to say, historically, that they are more likely to pick another loser and I personally think they did.
shonester 3 years ago
What would you like to be called then Dum Dum Pop! Hostile... more like fancy free enjoying this debate. John Mccain said 100 years or more.. I didn't say it... and I've never heard of Barack saying anything of the sort and I've been following him for a loong time other than you who excepts Republican propaganda... and even if he does leave some troops there I guess he would HAVE to since we are soo deep in Bush's crap.. that we can't leave it unfinished.. Also AGE and Color are very different.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
Sooo if you choose to be a racist and spurt out racials slurs be my guest because it shows the true reason why many don't like Obama in the first place. It has nothing to do with inexperience or anything else. It's his color.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
"Also AGE and Color are very different."??
So it's fair to belittle someone based on their age, but not their skin color. I think it's foolish to belittle based on EITHER. You have a double standard here - and most Liberals do. I know strong Democrats who would scream if they heard a black joke, but laugh at sexist jokes too. I have a zero tolerance policy on sexism, racism, or ageism. ALL ARE WRONG.
If you think McCain's age would put him at a disadvantage cognitively you can say that.
shonester 3 years ago
But to call him an "old azz" is disrespectful and evidence of ageism against John McCain.
You must keep in mind I am an independent and have no ties to Republicans.
And it is somewhat pompous and arrogant to suggest the only reason people don't want Obama is his skin color. Republicans don't vote for Democrats - whether black or white - first of all. Secondly he has flaws just like other candidates and those flaws do not appeal to me.
shonester 3 years ago
(Yawn) You are such a bore. Mccain is oooold. Everyone knows it and being old and Barack is black everyone knows that too but which one impairs your judgment.. AGE :)
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
Yet you chose to write an offensive ageism remark "old azz" instead of writing a coherent comment like you finally have now.
McCain has already had a full medical review and he is healthy - both physically and cognitively. We've had both good and lousy presidents of all ages.
And if age is such a factor - I suggest you protest the Democrat senators over 70 like Ted Kennedy or Robert Byrd (who is 90) in charge of voting on serious national legislation.
shonester 3 years ago
Unless you believe that older people have enough cognitive ability to be US SENATORS! and responsbile for serious legislation but not quite able to be president.
shonester 3 years ago
Old people are too conservative and REVERT to the old way naturally because it's what they are comfortable with. That is one of the reasons why MCcain choosed to continue the war cause he is an old man afraid of changing.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
If Bush liked Black people so much why didn't he respond Quicker to Hurricane Katrina huh?? We all know the make up of New Orleans.. besides there ARE black republicans so there are odds and I'm sure some of them have applied to run.. I'm not a fool.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
You're implying he didn't react to New Orleans swiftly because of racism? That's a lame cop out. Couldn't it just be he does idiotic things? I also recall the same president went on continuing to read a storybook to children when first told about 9/11 as it happened.
I'd say the poor reaction to Katrina is more a test to an area of Bush incompetency than to an area of Bush racism.
When only 10% of black voters choose Republican they're 9 times less likely to be involved with the GOP.
shonester 3 years ago
Based on the black Americans, as a percent, involved in the Republican party - since it already took this long for a black American to be voted the nominee in the DEMOCRAT party, that has 9 times the black involvement - it will take many more years to have a black Republican nominee based on comparable Democrat standards.
shonester 3 years ago
"Old people are too conservative and REVERT to the old way naturally because it's what they are comfortable with."??
You're words make you sound agiest (if that's a word). If another minority was being generalized, stereotyped and insulted in this way you wouldn't stand for it. You seem to have this double standard against older people.
McCain chooses to continue the war because he is a Republican and supports it. He thinks pulling out will be a disaster..and it might be.
shonester 3 years ago
Old AZZ like I said.. Ageism MY ass... how about that! People not voting for Barack based on color is only for the democrats DUhh what republican would vote for a democrat you Dum Dum pop? (sigh) Then you are just a waste of time you independent.. Stand for something instead of criticizing everything! Except for REPUBLICANS
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
"Then you are just a waste of time you independent"???
I don't think I should be stuck with one party no matter what. Why sould I stay with a single party and do whatever they tell me? Candidates each party offers has varied and I shouldn't vote for someone I don't like becuase the party says to.
Don't be a sheep. Stand out from the herd.
shonester 3 years ago
Because it's either a DEMOCRAT or a REPUBLICAN who will be our president Dum Dum Pop.. Not and independent EVER.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
To clarify - when I say "independent" - I mean I have no allegiance specifically to either party. I would only vote for a Democrat or a Republican.
I vote by both the candidate and the state of the party.
shonester 3 years ago
McCain is also very sharp and it would be foolish to imply he's old and won't be able to do anything. McCain's mother is like 96 and she's as sharp as ever herself.
He's made many stupid gaffes and mixups just like a younger Obama.
shonester 3 years ago
I actually think Obama's few redeeming qualities IS his skin color. Even though I would not want Barack to be president ever - I do think it would be impressive that our country would vote for a half black man and it's been too long without a president with a different racial or gender backgroud.
Mind you I don't think him being president will change much in the fight against racism or for continued civil rights - but symbolically it would be good for America.
shonester 3 years ago
It's been too long.. more like IT hasn't been.. Look at the facts of our history. And you thinking that his skin color is a redeeming quality that is more like REvert Racism. When has a Republican voted on another race or gender as one of their nominees? Never because they are conservatives (meaning they don't like change) Don't play me for a fool.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
Well there aren't that many black Republicans so the odds of a black Republican running is low in the first place.
But I guess Bush was racist when he made Colin Powell the FIRST black American to hold that position. And later made Condi Rice the first black female it.
Ironically, Condi's father was a Republican because the racist Democrats of Alabama wouldn't allow him to reigster to vote, while the Republicans would.
shonester 3 years ago
Reagan, a Republican, passed MLK day - the first and only federal holiday that recognizes a black American.
The KKK was formed by radcial DEMOCRATS.
Republican Party was formed by the anti-slavery movement.
Through history Republicans have been advocates of black Americans. For example in1935 Democrats defeated an anti-lynching that REPUBLICANS had put forth.
Democrat senators like Robert Byrd where fond of the KKK back in the 50s. It is well documented.
shonester 3 years ago
Aaand if Bush liked black people so much.. WHY on EARTH did it take him the last year of his 8 year term to go to an Naacp meeting in which he's been invited on SEVERAL occasions?? HMMM?????? Can you answer that?? He is using Condeeliza and Colin Powell as a distraction of his racism.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
He isn't exactly going to appear at events where the people don't like him. I wouldn't see Bush going to a Planned Parenthood convention anytime either.
I guess Obama skipping on the congressional black caucus annual meeting, while Hillary went is okay in your books. Barack chose to campaign at a nearby university instead of appearing - most likely figuring he has the black demographic in his back pocket automatically, taking for granted, and could campaign instead of attending the event.
shonester 3 years ago
blah BLAHHH... He made Colin Powell his little puppy to run and tell Us that he found weapons of mass destruction and Colin Powell DENIED him of that AND he removed his self from that position because of it.. and Bush is screwing Condileeza Rice that's why she is still there and the secret service men have admitted that... so whatever.. He wanted to put the blame of his war on someone which Happened to be a black man.. Screw Bush. He likes black people.. Pish Posh
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
What are you talking about?
"Have you ever heard of Bill??? He wasn't a loser.. but just because she is his wife doesn't mean she is the stronger candidate.."
I responded to your comment that you think he isn't weak in a general election because he won the Democratic nomination. Which history shows is not really a strong argument.
I also never said Hillary was a strong candidate because Bill was.
shonester 3 years ago
And yes.. you are such a failure for not seeing how George and John are the same especially since Bush has held a fundraising campaign Privately to raise money for Mccain!! AND the fact the MCCAin wants to continue a losing war. We've lost too many soldiers already and I guess it would take YOU going to Iraq and losing your life to figure that out.. You just might be next if you vote for Mccain.. because trust me. Drafting is the next step! And not it's Bush to blame..
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
Might I add John Mccain wants to continue a war for 100 years more? Which is approximately 99 years after he's dead with his old azz!
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
John McCain does not "WANT to continue a war for 100 years more". He said troops will be there as long as it takes to achieve the goal, and if that unfortunately is a crazy number like 100 years - then so be it. You do know we still have troops in countries we invaded years ago right? And you do know Barack's plan is to leave some troops in Iraq?
I wouldn't use a racist term about Barack - so I would hope you would refrain from insulting McCain's age "his old azz".
shonester 3 years ago
Who did you expect Bush to fundraise for? A Democrat? Republicans will stick together. Even Hillary will back Obama, since she is a Democrat. McCain and Bush don't have the best relationship and disagree on a lot - but they are both from the same party and have some allegiance.
You're argument is that if I was actually fighting in a war where I could die, I would be opposed to it. I agree. But I would have agreed during WWII if I was in the war then. Why would I be for a war where I might die
shonester 3 years ago
"Drafting is the next step"??
I recall Liberals warning women that abortion would be banned and criminalied if Bush got elected. Well....he got elected twice and I'm pretty sure abortion still exists.
It reminds me of Liberals saying that we shouldn't invade Iraq or the Middle East because they'll retaliate with bioweapons or bombs. While at the same time claiming those countires have no WMDs, so no reason to invade.
shonester 3 years ago
If you are so against removing an evil dictator who murdered his own people - where you rallying in the streets with signs chanting "Save Saddam"??
Or is it, that you're for the removal of Saddam but just as long as it's magically done with no one getting hurt. Maybe Saddam would have stepped down if we asked really really politely?
The guy had facilities 2 make weapons of mass destruction & had used bioweapons on his own people in the past. He wasn't keeping the facilities as decoration.
shonester 3 years ago
Uhhh Hello DUM DUM POP.. they didn't find WEAPONS of Mass destruction.. and why shouldn't a country have their weapons just like we do?? It's about Diplomacy.. but America wants to be everyones bully invading their land and telling them what they can and can not do.. Also if you knew anything you would know that the witnesses to 911 said that it was not American aircraft that crashed into the buildings AND that they heard a bomb before the aircraft so called HIT. Get the facts..
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
Bush wasn't even supposed to be our president.. He cheated his way in the presidency too... (sigh) Ignorant.
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago
I wouldn't have put it past BOTH Democrats and Republicans to have cheated in 2000. There have been equal reports to say that there was some funny business with Dem voting throughout the country, just like Republicans. President is picked by electoral vote, not popular vote. Bush won Florida and the Supreme Court approved it.
shonester 3 years ago
Bush knew about it before it happened. He went back to reading books to disguise that..
ahnjelchavonne 3 years ago