ラグランジュポイント Lagrange Point (Famicom, 1991)

[za909]

And it's not just the music, it's the graphics as well! Looks at those parallax scrolling parts! The NES wasn't usually capable of handling so many backgorund layers.

[SgtThom]

@za909

Many high end nes games used additional mappers to enhance the graphics. Really the NES look like shit without them :p

[kenshirotakahashi]

A couple of things I forgot to mention. In 1991, Family Computer Magazine, or Famimaga for short, celebrated their 100th issue by announcing the Game Koubou project, in which they ask readers what they want to put into the game. It's kind of like Nintendo Power's Robot Master Design Contest, only on a much larger scale. Also, members from the 80's J-Rock band Rebbeca composed the soundtrack alongside the Konami Kukeiha Club. Don't beleive me, check out Hardcore Gaming 101's article on the game.

[retrogamerjapanVids]

best sounding FC game by far.

[Ui2019]

With the SNES alot of developers chose crappy samples... Konami, and often Squaresoft chose great Snes instruments...

[SmokingSpoon]

11:57 . Damn this girl have some serious twitch, hahah. This nes chip sounds incredible!

[Bastiest]

Yet another great game that would've been awesome to get here in europea.

I hope someone will translate this at some point.

[kenshirotakahashi]

Here are some fun facts about this game. First of all, the FM sound really creates an ominous atmosphere in some parts of the game. Second, the monsters are creative as well as awesome-looking, especially the bosses. Third, the people who made this game would go on to form Treasure.

[SuperAdventures]

@kenshirotakahashi How do you know? Is there a credits list for this game out there?

[kenshirotakahashi]

@SuperAdventures Nazo Suzuki, also known as Nazo2 Suzuki made music for Gunstar Heroes and Dynamite Headdy, among others.

[dreamerm42]

i read in more foro the vrc7 is similar to opl

[yohhi2014]

このゲーム、よく覚えてる。ＦＭ音源搭載ということで、ファミコ­ンのスペックから考えれば、衝撃的な音の良さで当時、話題になっ­たソフト。

[Motherandpokemonw00t]

Play this game every1 says earthbound is underated no this game is yes the audio is impressive but play the game!!! Its amazing i want a fan translation and im willing 2 do it but i dont no ho

[SgtThom]

@Motherandpokemonw00t

Earthbound is only underrated to non fan boys. Anyways it's a shame that no one would give a proper translation to this game. It's really nice to play an NES Phantasy star like RPG with FM sound in English to actually understand the story.And this game isn't as hard as most other NES RPGs but have lots of **** random battles.

[dannwe123]

The music in this game sounds more like the Genisis than NES/Famicom

[SgtThom]

@dannwe123

Not entirely thought.It lacks a sampling channel on the VCR7 and only allows you 1 custom instrument.Not as advance as Yamaha YM2612 but can still created a cool experience.

[Meteotrance]

the cool stuff with the audio stuff in neo geo or PC engine it's used both Sampling and FM synth inside de soundchip, this VRC7 do a realy good job for a famicom game.

[deblobwii]

I might be weird, but I wish the SNES would have sounded like this.

[neptronix]

I strongly agree!! SNES had some good sounding games, but most had muffled, funky instruments. FM had a nice sharp sound, and when programmed correctly, sounded heavenly.

[deblobwii]

Yes. I still prefer the sound of systems like the Genesis and the Neo-Geo to that of the SNES for the reasons you mentioned. Some of the better sounding SNES games sounded like they had no bass and growing up I thought it was because I had a crappy TV but it's like that even with good speakers.

[neptronix]

Same here. Realtime synthesis is better than crappy samples of realtime synthesis!

SNES' soundchip just didn't have enough RAM for the job, the sound samples were at a frequency, at best, double the bandwidth of an analogue phone.

This game looks really killer.

[SgtThom]

@neptronix

Earth bound tried to use sample FM music but...It's kinda crappy

[stridervm]

@deblobwii

The SNES can actually do this things, but bottlenecks would happen and other stuff would be cut (Like SFX), so they traded quality for quantity.

[SgtThom]

@stridervm

Yeah the reduced the sampling rate from 48 kHz too 32KHz.

[SgtThom]

I think either A:Make an online pettion for the translation.Or B donate some of our money to aeon genesis to get them to translate this game.

[SgtThom]

ラグランジュポイント From the title. Use it.

[fnvcdt]

Even today, the graphics and music impress me. This is amazing... Why couldn't any NES games have sound chips like this?! It reminds me of what they did to Phantasy Star's music. Only the Japanese version of that game had FM synthesis.

[nintendo1889x]

The NES wasn't designed to play games with special chips, on top of that, these cartridges were obscenely expensive to produce. Thank good we have emulators like FCEUX and Nestopia to play this game with!

[ryanc519]

damn...I hope this game gets translated into English and eventually be posted on Virtual console for download.

[LENOMESTKIRBY]

Convenu

[RPGFan28]

Aeon genesis is doing a translation patch that is 605 done but hasn't moved an inch because not many people are pitching in!

[RPGFan28]

Oops typo, it's 60% done

[SiGhast]

@RPGFan28

Wasn't the latest news updated 2007? They seem to have just... stopped. :|

I want a translation. Now! Seriously. This looks sweet as hell... like a Nintendo counterpart of Phantasy Star. Oooh hell yes.

[SgtThom]

@SiGhast

It's nothing like Phantasy Star. Just search Lagrange Point in Japanese and use the translate option for wiki JP.

[SiGhast]

@SgtThom

Ah. Well, I didn't say the story was like Phantasy Star, nor the game's concept. It's just that both are JRPGs and seem to share a common theme; science fantasy. (Although I'm not sure if this has much of the fantasy part in it. Anything I'm saying is what what I picked up from watching like two videos of it. I'm drawing conclusions here.)

Either way, this seems to be the Nintendo 8-bit system's *closest* counterpart to that. Not saying it's exactly the same.

Thanks, though!

[chabelito1992]

wow

good sound

[paulunga]

Haha, that actually sounds way better than the shitty Genesis audio.

[Alianger]

not really, but it is impressive!

[Resetti64]

Why is 2a03 louder then VRC7?

[MysticArksRevenge]

I totally agree, LoliRipe!

[stkthree03]

I can't wait until Aeon Genesis finishes the translation patch! I've been waiting for so long..

[defsoul69]

Their last update was on May 2007. One year has passed and we never heard of any progress since then. Looks like this one is low priority.

[MysticArksRevenge]

Its too bad that KONAMI only used the VRC-VII chip for this game only. They should've made more games using this chip!

[LoliRipe]

They should've remade old games, with this chip.

[za909]

@MysticArksRevenge Imagine Castlevania 3 with this thing

[MysticArksRevenge]

@za909 Yeah! Or even that some of the licensed games that Konami has done, like Ninja Turtles!

[SailorBarsoom]

I'm always for games with a High Frontier setting.

[Jtaylor1]

VRC7 sounds very advanced.

[morrissteven]

You have to remember that it's advanced for the NES, but that this game was made in 1991. The SNES was already out by then.

[Markell1991]

@Jtaylor1 It's practically Mega Drive standard.

[ChibiFighter]

I just started to play this game like 3 days ago I nearly fainted after hearing the music that is just freaking incredable

[johneymute]

what running this game on a famiclone? huh how cut that be ,m mean despites this console is based on the noac chip wich is a incomplete and incorrect nes harware.

and manny games don,t run or don,t run eather,but this game runs well and even the external soundpins are there amezing!!!!!!!

that,s why this game runs well besides the nex sounds to loud but that,s oke.

[starwarsnar]

Why is the 2a03 so loud compared to the VRC7? Did you burn out you OPL?

[Toneman]

that's what it sounds like on the Generation NEX. I settled for less for the time being until I get a real Famicom AV

[Inuyashathe3rd]

I will soon own this and a famicom.

[BIGUNITZERO]

Is there a English patch for it anywhere.

[skyrunner14]

I'm pretty sure there was a translation somewhere, but I can't remember where it is...

[Toneman]

production is underway as we speak

[meidc]

Music and soud is on par with the Sega Genesis/Megadrive.

I feal bummed that this was missed here in the States.

[vnisanian2001]

Some of the sound effects kinda remind of the ones from SD Snatcher and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, two great Konami games for the MSX2.

[sonicfan05]

wow i thought this was pc engine~ amazing!

[FreedomGotAnAK]

I thought it was a remix done on an expensive synthesizer!

[TimelordR]

A damn shame this was 1 of Konami's games that was never released in the U.S.. Instead of this, they gave us a WAY inferior NES RPG King's Quest V. Shame!

[Alianger]

this game looks pretty damn sweet

[Nintega]

Can't wait unitl Aeon Genesis finishes translating this game.

[RainMan34]

Lagrange point? Never heard of it...fascinating!

[Toneman]

BTW I got a walkthrough in the works as I put out videos for this. Y'all get ready for that.

[TrueSoreThumb]

Are you the only guy doing a walkthrough for this? wow :D

[Toneman]

There is a complete walkthrough in Japanese, so I used WorldLingo to translate it, and I could actually comprehend the Engrish.

[Toneman]

...then paraphrase it from my point of view. My laptop's fritzed out and can't continue with it.

[skyrunner14]

Where'd you find it? I'd love to see it...

[Keranu]

Wow, the sound is amazing! The graphics are pretty damn nice too! Gotta love the typical RPG opening where you get your ass kicked by enemies.

[WingZeroKai]

Wow. This looks like a nice game.