He is not Wily, but he does have his knowledge just like Serges(applied Wily's theory for the new Zero's parts in X2) thanks to the Zero's virus that contained the data... Yup, the Mavericks/Irregulars are Wily's legacy and mistake after all...
haiz if isoc was wily, hed know enough about zero to be able to take him out easy.(who knows, he might have made a fail safe in case zero ever tried to kill him)
They all thought Zero died in X5 when he protected X from Sigma. Isacnad Gate used Zero's DNA to create High Max so in a sense High Max is Zero's illegitimate child. That's also why he said he knew Zero inside and out because if his Zero's DNA.
i cant defeat high max no matter how hard i try so im looking up every ending in every game i cant get (the bad endings mostly and x6 defeating high max as x and zero so now i know both endings for this) and the ending of the games i cant beat (mostly final fantasy and mmx2 and 6)
@ACWKnight They seem to like to play with words. Saying "old man" might not refer to a person but to an "old/past figure/character" in this case. And the fact he laughs when Zero defeats high max and X doesnt, shows incredible happyness (and some irony) and not disdain, Willy was incredible proud of his creatins and wished anything related to lightman to fail. The list goes on ofc.
i doubt some random reploid is going to know zero so well dinno why capcom keep dancing around wily and just put him into the game wily still make a great villan even if wily is facing a differant Megaman
We all know isoc is wily i believe isoc laugh pretty much is a big clue no villan in the MM series could laugh like Wily second Isoc looked very proud the fact zero man handled High max the fact he took down zero with little to no effort shows the fact that he knows zero body like if he builded zero himself i say pretty big clues there the fact that isoc talked down to zero like if a father talking down to his son also another clue of him being wily
Theres no proving anything. its common sense. Willy died in between the megaman(original series) and megaman X series. It was even said in the interview by kenji inafune(creator of megaman).
Oh and X is stronger than Zero and let´s forget the gameplay. Has anyone seen X in Neutral Armor (for example) in ending video scenes in X8? you didn´t right? then let´s forget the armor stuff. Zero is strong, of course but X is stronger because he starts being weak but has the ability of learn from his defeats and evolve. He can be beaten but on the next fight we will become harder of beat, check Maverick Hunter X if you have doubts. Zero cannot, that is the difference.
@Luigi84289 Zero said this "I don´t care they have a stronger hunter than me" X is Stronger than Zero, When X was a B class hunter (X1) he beats 10 SA rank hunters (boss from the first game, Vile and Sigma).
The real difference is when a maverick fights with Zero, they fear or hate him due he is pretty quick and destroy without asking. Where X is normally called "Trash" due the fact he is the First reploid, but others respect him cuz he is a true justice fighter
@SenshiSam Zero destroys sigma in X5. This is something X could not do. Gate has to bring Sigma back in X6. Zero is crazy that is his strength. He has more restraint later on but he does what he has to. Zero keeps up with X in every game without armor upgrades. If X was really better he would be able to kill Zero with them but what we see especially in 1, 2 and 3 is that he is superior even when X is at full power.
@Luigi84289 X Destroy the whole body of sigma, X don´t get so much battle damage, just look Zero is near to death when X tries to Awake him, cuz that Sigma attack him, Zero deals the final blow, just that.
Dont mix up Story with Gameplay, X is the main character cuz that he gets the Armor upgrades, that is gameplay, but those parts are optional to get, don´t related to the main story.
Then on Zero saga, Zero can get some chips, cyber elfs, forms etc to increase his own power, and don
@SenshiSam make him "weak" but he get a lot of "Gameplay balance" for stop that damn Dash Slash Cancel, that is very, very cheap.
On the mmx story X Stops sigma revolt (x1), Destroy Sigma´s followers, being the new hunter leader, rescue Zero (or beat him if you dont get Zero parts) and kicks sigma´s butt. On X3 Sigma tries to take X powers to become him into the strongest maverick ever, but fail, cuz X get´s "Virus Sigma Antibodies" by own, X4 he can beat colonel with just 1 arm, kill Double
@SenshiSam and Beat the general, and kicks Sigma butt, Again... but Zero kills a Girl... *claps*... don´t get me wrong, X and Zero are my favorite video game characters, but... X is far Stronger than Zero.
@SenshiSam did you read what I typed? Zero has always been stronger than X with all the armor this is fact. Look at X2 and X3. He destroys fake zero in 3 hits and his z saber is way stronger than x's best buster in X3.That post had so many grammatical errors I almost had to read it twice. Being the main character /= strongest. It means the one the story is centered around for the most part and one could make the argument that zero is just as much a main character later on especially X4 up.
When you fight vs Zero on mmx2 you can destroy his charge shot with X regular shots and destroy them with a single full charge shot, Zero was powered up by Serges... X is stronger because he can evolve more and more, Sigma said that, Zero, Dr doppler etc.
@Azulamozari Reploids were made to act and feel just like humans, but they must never break the rules of robotics. A robot must never harm a human, but Megaman somehow rejected the rule of that and almost killed Wily because Megaman was more than just a robot. Reploids may have the faces of humans but they don't have organs like androids do, but they still act and feel just like humans do.
the rules of robotics are not actually in robots. Megaman can break it if he so pleases. They exist more as a moral guideline. in the same way that a human should not kill, A robot must not harm humans. The laws are present in the world of Megaman, but they are not made with them. why do you think Mavericks can attack humans?
The virus does not overwrite any laws in them, it just twists their hearts and minds to evil. Hell, Copy X himself sends a Missile into a human residential district in Zero 3, and he's no maverick.
@FlameG102 The Laws of Robotics were not programmed into Reploids. X is capable of breaking the Laws of Robotics, which is why he was put in that capsule for ethical programming. All Reploids are free from those laws.
I never said they were. they still EXIST, but reploids, (and classic series robots as well, FYI,) are not bound to them. they exist however, and Light decided to make X undergo the ethical testing because he feared the consequences of X breaking the first law, regardless of his having it or not.
@FlameG102 I am saying that they were programmed into robots, which is why you do not see any robots attempt to kill Humans (If you argue that Wily's R.M.s did, I'd probably have to say that he wouldn't exactly be the most likely person to program them into his robots. But nobody does other than Megaman in MM7, but Megaman is more than just a robot, he's a BAMF), yet in the X and Zero series, it's said that humanity is nearly destroyed by Reploids and Mavericks.
Mega man is not more than a robot. He is just a robot, like any other in his time. proto man might be the exception, in that he is quite unique compared to others. but Rock... he is not. the "die wily scene " was also in the American version only, whereas in the Japanese, he points his buster at Wily, to which Wily scared, reminds rock he is not supposed to harm humans, to which Rock just goes "..."
@luispick It's cause X has something special in him that Dr.Light gave him that Wily couldn't give Zero...if you watch the rise of sigma or w/e from the psp version of megaman X it explains it
funny we all know wily been making his presents known for such a long time in this seris be nice for them to finally put him in the X seris and them to finally make a megaman game that pretty much finishes the megaman game seris and it finally let us see what happens to the orginal megaman and what maded Dr light create X which was for the reason he was so advence for his time i all ways loved the megaman and megaman X game seris but i know alot of us wish we can just finally get the backstory
funny how this guy did one move which pretty much stopped zero in his tracks and pretty much tells him he knows everything there is to know about him capcom just needs to fix the the story and put wily in all ready the laugh he does pretty much the same type wily all ways used just add the guy in all ready we all ready know wily is still around even if hes nothing more than a mere program of himself would be nice just to be able to tie togetor more loose ends with both games all ready
in this cutscene Isoc mentions he repairs High Max...maybe after H.M was repaired X comes and defeats him and Isoc wents "WTF? HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE DERP"
X2: Serges is not Wily. He may have been aware of Zero's origins and shared Dr. Wily's view, but he's definitely not Wily. Pay no attention to the manga.
X5: The one who built Sigma's body was NOT Wily. If anything, I think it was Dr. Cain. Because he says to X "I believe you two know each other...in fact, he used to be a comrade of yours." Obviously this couldn't be true with Wily, since Wily was never a good guy and X never knew him. And with Dr. Cain never mentioned, this sounds good.
X6: Yes, Isoc is Wily. This is in every way obvious. The fact that they have the same voice actor doesn't mean anything, but Capcom intended Isoc to be Wily's reincarnation, as evidenced when you defeat Gate as Zero. Also here, where he says "I know you inside-out" quite literally, because he BUILT Zero.
Your X5 theory is wrong. Wily WAS a comrade of Dr. Light, therefore Sigma could have been reffering to that. Plus, Sigma's final form in X5 is based off Gamma from Megaman 3. PLUS, Sigma states that the man he knew was like his own father! This person Sigma was "working with" was none other than the virus inside him, telling him about Zero, and convincing Sigma to ignore his original ideals and focus on spreading the virus.
1. The only time Wily ever worked with Dr. Light was in MM3. And he was referring to a comrade of X, not Dr. Light.
2. Sigma's final form is a combination of Gamma and his MMX1 final form.
3. He never said anything like "his own father" and even if he did, he's not talking about Wily since Cain was the one who built him, therefore strengthening my theory.
YOUR theory on the Zero Virus might work, except for the line "He's created quite a few robots."
Face Sigma as Zero. He states the man he is partnered with knows Zero as if he was his own father. And the "created quite a few robots" thing is referencing Dr. Wily's Robot Masters.
And Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were partners before the classic series, they created Protoman together.
The NES American timeline has been stated as obsolete by Inafune himself. Wily and Light never worked together. And anyway he says "He used to be a comrade of yours" meaning X, not Light, so this argument is pointless.
And yes, when he talks to Zero he clearly means Wily. But when he's talking to X, there's a contradiction, because he was never a comrade of anyone.
Right. When Zero meets him, it sounds like Wily, and when X meets him, it sounds like Cain. Given how they obviously didn't meet Sigma at the same time, and there's no telling of Cain's whereabouts (Isoc is Wily, but it's not told if Cain is dead or not) it could go either way.
Still, the various Wily references in the Virus stages...it seems convincing enough that it's Wily. Plus, you know how Capcom can translate things into English that don't make sense right? (Ex: Every dialogue scene in X6)
Possibly, and I know it's much more likely that he was still talking about Wily and the comrade thing was just a translation error. The whole series is a translation error. Capcom needs to make more Maverick Hunter X's that update the storyline.
The theory I have is quite simple. Dr. Wily wanted to make sure his plan would proceed as planned, so he created Serges and Isoc(And possibly even others) and gave them orders to watch over Zero and possibly upgrade him with the Saber and chest parts. Nothing to do with "Reviving him" or anything. Just to make sure the Virus does its job and to make sure Zero is harvesting for the apocalypse.
My personal theory is that Wily tried to cheat death in old age, and attempted to recreate his own brain in the form a computer can understand and follow. He then inserted this program into a robot body along with all his memories and activated the robot. This robot is Isoc, who has been behind the scenes helping Sigma and other villans so that he could insure Zero would not stray from his purpose: to destroy X. In X5 he came close to this goal...
There's no doubt about it though, Isoc is in one form or another, Dr. Wily. Almost 50% of what Isoc says alludes to it and the fact that he calls Zero a robot and not a reploid pretty much confirms it 100%. Sigma also alludes to his survival of the Wily Wars in X5.
it would be nice if capcom would give more clues with willy and zero than the broken bits and the hints half the time they hint he still alive and other times they hint hes dead but come on we seen so many things of willy presents in all most all the games but yet as i hear MMX series isnt connected to the old megaman series would be kinda nice if capcom would give a better answer of willy or if he ever goin to be a major factor like he use to be back in the old games
Capcom has been teasing us and alluding to Wily's presence ever since Mega Man X2. I wish they would just reveal him already..
I think its what the true fans really want. Please bring back Wily for X9! Imagine how awesome it would be to just see Isoc return and reveal his true identity.
(Assuming he is Wily, which I'm pretty sure we can all agree on him probably being.)
@MiDSinister yeah anyone whos a true magaman fan knows wily made zero and light made x. even in i believe magaman and bass you see blue prints of what looks like zero
Nope, thats Serges, Serges was the one who repaired and Uprgaded Zero's parts to tease X more. So Isoc wouldnt hurt his own creation. Isocs just a dick.
I don't know about Serges. That possibility is there. But I'm still pretty sure about Isoc man. Besides, Isoc didn't really hurt Zero..just incapacitated him. And who else would know him "inside out"?
@MiDSinister How can you not know these guys inside out? They're machines lol all you need are blueprints to know this. Now isn't it possible that Isoc stumbled on to Wily's things and found blueprints? All of you guys are just speculating without actual proof. As much as it would be cool to see Isoc be Wily i highly doubt it, i'd buy it more if wily was cryogenically frozen and came back as a human (Isoc is a reploid btw).
You missed the part where X and Zero are so incredibly complex that they are almost completely beyond the reach of their current science. And these are robots created a CENTURY earlier. Its very hard to repair them when they take damage, and their DNA programs are unanalyzable. Even Cain was unable to rebuild Zero, and he's the leading scientist of the X world. For isoc to "know him inside out", he can be nobody else. Not to mention calling Zero "boy" in an "im your elder" sort of way.
@MiDSinister Or maybe Isoc just knows his stuff. And if Capcom had intended to put Wily directly in the X series, they wouldn't be stupid enough to leave out the hair-stache of doooom!
;) It is open to speculation and completely unanswered dude.
I agree with that theory. I think that Isoc is a shell for the Zero Virus, the original version of the Maverick Virus, which was Dr. Wily's attempt to live forever and also control Zero. Unfortunately, he lost control of Zero when Dr. Cain installed a 'Suffering Circuit" into him after Sigma originally defeated him (see X4 clip), and the virus was transferred to Sigma, where it mutated and changed to carry Sigma's consciousness instead of Wily's.
As Isoc or in some other form, the virus definitely helped Sigma in X5. And then as Isoc it helped Gate in X6. I think it was manipulating both of them though for its own ends. Some people hypothesize that the two minds (Sigma's and Wily's) met in the Sigma Virus itself and that was how they collaborated in X5 and possibly in X2, in which case the Sigma Virus still carried some of Wily's consciousness. Another possibility is that Wily implanted the virus in other places besides in Zero.
Maybe Wily designed Isoc as the virus's body, and it has been helping Sigma behind the scenes all along. For example, who designed Sigma's X4 body? X2 Sigma's body was made by the X-Hunters (who may also be related to Wily or the virus), X3's by Dr. Doppler, X5's by "Wily" in some form, X6's by Isoc and Gate, X7's and X8's most likely by members of the Jacob Elevator Project, but X4's? And how did Sigma and the X-Hunters learn about the Zero's true nature in X2?
hey guys i juz wanna ask dat..do X really have met Dr.Wily b4? if its not..how Dr.Wily die? does it due to old ages? i hope that explain why in Megaman x9 later^^
Isoc should've been the 1st boss on Gate's stage instead of those eyeballs
CraigJericho 6 days ago
This Isoc guy is too funny, I love his laugh
voutespancar 1 week ago
He is not Wily, but he does have his knowledge just like Serges(applied Wily's theory for the new Zero's parts in X2) thanks to the Zero's virus that contained the data... Yup, the Mavericks/Irregulars are Wily's legacy and mistake after all...
kagon01 3 weeks ago
yea that had to be wily. he doesn't talk to X in the ending, only Zero, his creation.
omnigear1975 3 weeks ago
Signos kick ass issac and gate they run scary
MultiStRiKeR22 1 month ago
if thats Wily, how does he die just like that in the end?
bowlofarthritus 1 month ago
Reploid version of Dr Wahwee
AlllexL 3 months ago
haiz if isoc was wily, hed know enough about zero to be able to take him out easy.(who knows, he might have made a fail safe in case zero ever tried to kill him)
MisterPudd 4 months ago
@MisterPudd and i do mean a instant kill not some light electric shock >>.
MisterPudd 4 months ago
Hey its the Katamari King lol
trillination 5 months ago
Ha Ha, I can't stop laughing!
DsKARteam 6 months ago
Lol, it´s just an odd reference made by Capcom not Inafune. Makes no sense know any more of Zero after X5. Don´t take X6-X8 story so seriously.
Volviert 6 months ago
@Volviert shup they're all awesome >:l
l00serville 3 months ago
Isoc is wily!!
Cactusman129 6 months ago
OMG wow wily forever immortol as a reploid dam i always played through X 4 5 & 6 as X but zero's cut scean's seem more intresting.
megamanx87 7 months ago
@ACWKnight he could of been referering to Isoc, since he considering himself a person not a reploid
mapleseallux 7 months ago
Its Dr.Wily ! IIO_O!! he turned himself into a reploid omg!!
mapleseallux 7 months ago
They all thought Zero died in X5 when he protected X from Sigma. Isacnad Gate used Zero's DNA to create High Max so in a sense High Max is Zero's illegitimate child. That's also why he said he knew Zero inside and out because if his Zero's DNA.
TheOmegaDragon 7 months ago
i cant defeat high max no matter how hard i try so im looking up every ending in every game i cant get (the bad endings mostly and x6 defeating high max as x and zero so now i know both endings for this) and the ending of the games i cant beat (mostly final fantasy and mmx2 and 6)
Zeromaster64 7 months ago
@ACWKnight
Wily consciusness in a reploid body. ;)
prjibaro1 8 months ago
wily is inside the virus thats how he was able to contact sigma in x5 he's still alive in the virus
animegeekstein 8 months ago
@ACWKnight They seem to like to play with words. Saying "old man" might not refer to a person but to an "old/past figure/character" in this case. And the fact he laughs when Zero defeats high max and X doesnt, shows incredible happyness (and some irony) and not disdain, Willy was incredible proud of his creatins and wished anything related to lightman to fail. The list goes on ofc.
cursedshadow 9 months ago
Wow, he sounds so much like Dr. Wily. o_o
walton80 9 months ago
Father and Son meet...
mopbrothers 11 months ago
Wily!!!
FUMA1609 11 months ago
X6 was unfortunately rushed. Several things are missing. IT would be cool to actually get to fight Isoc!
raakone 11 months ago
i doubt some random reploid is going to know zero so well dinno why capcom keep dancing around wily and just put him into the game wily still make a great villan even if wily is facing a differant Megaman
LucianMaximusify 1 year ago 5
We all know isoc is wily i believe isoc laugh pretty much is a big clue no villan in the MM series could laugh like Wily second Isoc looked very proud the fact zero man handled High max the fact he took down zero with little to no effort shows the fact that he knows zero body like if he builded zero himself i say pretty big clues there the fact that isoc talked down to zero like if a father talking down to his son also another clue of him being wily
LucianMaximusify 1 year ago
@LucianMaximusify
hes not willy. get over it
ThaMachine100 1 year ago
@ThaMachine100 Prove it.
FMRagna 1 year ago
@FMRagna
Theres no proving anything. its common sense. Willy died in between the megaman(original series) and megaman X series. It was even said in the interview by kenji inafune(creator of megaman).
ThaMachine100 1 year ago
he ALSO said in the same interview, that Wily was "brought back by the virus".
FlameG102 10 months ago
1:08 Lol Zero's boots are lacking color
BurashiP3 1 year ago
i don't remeber this cut-scene is it for pc only? I don't recall seeing this in my ps1 version
go555ace 1 year ago
Thanks for the video!!
Oh and X is stronger than Zero and let´s forget the gameplay. Has anyone seen X in Neutral Armor (for example) in ending video scenes in X8? you didn´t right? then let´s forget the armor stuff. Zero is strong, of course but X is stronger because he starts being weak but has the ability of learn from his defeats and evolve. He can be beaten but on the next fight we will become harder of beat, check Maverick Hunter X if you have doubts. Zero cannot, that is the difference.
LinkaDL 1 year ago
It's just me or Isoc spends the whole cutscene being stoned off his ass?
FoolyCoolyMabase 1 year ago
zero is stronger than X I wish he'd just get his own games. And no the gba games don't count. Might as well be a different series.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 Its funny you say that, 'cause Zero was suppose to be the main character
Fillistar 1 year ago
@Luigi84289
Yeah, but the Zero games ARE a different series.
I say pick up Mega Man XTreme 2: playing Mega Man X2 and X3, as Zero, on the Game Boy Color. Problem solved.
emperorIng360 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 Zero said this "I don´t care they have a stronger hunter than me" X is Stronger than Zero, When X was a B class hunter (X1) he beats 10 SA rank hunters (boss from the first game, Vile and Sigma).
The real difference is when a maverick fights with Zero, they fear or hate him due he is pretty quick and destroy without asking. Where X is normally called "Trash" due the fact he is the First reploid, but others respect him cuz he is a true justice fighter
SenshiSam 1 year ago
@SenshiSam Zero destroys sigma in X5. This is something X could not do. Gate has to bring Sigma back in X6. Zero is crazy that is his strength. He has more restraint later on but he does what he has to. Zero keeps up with X in every game without armor upgrades. If X was really better he would be able to kill Zero with them but what we see especially in 1, 2 and 3 is that he is superior even when X is at full power.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 Zero is superior that is. Wily's goal was to build the ultimate robot and he succeeded.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 X Destroy the whole body of sigma, X don´t get so much battle damage, just look Zero is near to death when X tries to Awake him, cuz that Sigma attack him, Zero deals the final blow, just that.
Dont mix up Story with Gameplay, X is the main character cuz that he gets the Armor upgrades, that is gameplay, but those parts are optional to get, don´t related to the main story.
Then on Zero saga, Zero can get some chips, cyber elfs, forms etc to increase his own power, and don
SenshiSam 1 year ago
@SenshiSam make him "weak" but he get a lot of "Gameplay balance" for stop that damn Dash Slash Cancel, that is very, very cheap.
On the mmx story X Stops sigma revolt (x1), Destroy Sigma´s followers, being the new hunter leader, rescue Zero (or beat him if you dont get Zero parts) and kicks sigma´s butt. On X3 Sigma tries to take X powers to become him into the strongest maverick ever, but fail, cuz X get´s "Virus Sigma Antibodies" by own, X4 he can beat colonel with just 1 arm, kill Double
SenshiSam 1 year ago
@SenshiSam and Beat the general, and kicks Sigma butt, Again... but Zero kills a Girl... *claps*... don´t get me wrong, X and Zero are my favorite video game characters, but... X is far Stronger than Zero.
SenshiSam 1 year ago
@SenshiSam did you read what I typed? Zero has always been stronger than X with all the armor this is fact. Look at X2 and X3. He destroys fake zero in 3 hits and his z saber is way stronger than x's best buster in X3.That post had so many grammatical errors I almost had to read it twice. Being the main character /= strongest. It means the one the story is centered around for the most part and one could make the argument that zero is just as much a main character later on especially X4 up.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
When you fight vs Zero on mmx2 you can destroy his charge shot with X regular shots and destroy them with a single full charge shot, Zero was powered up by Serges... X is stronger because he can evolve more and more, Sigma said that, Zero, Dr doppler etc.
Look badass =/= Strongest
SenshiSam 1 year ago
I agree it's time to bring Wily back, but is Inafune up for it?
tcaudilllg 1 year ago
OMG Wily is in this game!
mopbrothers 1 year ago
well why are all the reploids hand are white like gloves?! are they trying to act like the mickey and friends?!(lol)
Azulamozari 1 year ago
@Azulamozari Reploids were made to act and feel just like humans, but they must never break the rules of robotics. A robot must never harm a human, but Megaman somehow rejected the rule of that and almost killed Wily because Megaman was more than just a robot. Reploids may have the faces of humans but they don't have organs like androids do, but they still act and feel just like humans do.
XxKyKiske2007xX 1 year ago
the rules of robotics are not actually in robots. Megaman can break it if he so pleases. They exist more as a moral guideline. in the same way that a human should not kill, A robot must not harm humans. The laws are present in the world of Megaman, but they are not made with them. why do you think Mavericks can attack humans?
FlameG102 1 year ago
The virus does not overwrite any laws in them, it just twists their hearts and minds to evil. Hell, Copy X himself sends a Missile into a human residential district in Zero 3, and he's no maverick.
FlameG102 1 year ago
@FlameG102 The Laws of Robotics were not programmed into Reploids. X is capable of breaking the Laws of Robotics, which is why he was put in that capsule for ethical programming. All Reploids are free from those laws.
VoidedNote 1 year ago
I never said they were. they still EXIST, but reploids, (and classic series robots as well, FYI,) are not bound to them. they exist however, and Light decided to make X undergo the ethical testing because he feared the consequences of X breaking the first law, regardless of his having it or not.
FlameG102 1 year ago
@FlameG102 I am saying that they were programmed into robots, which is why you do not see any robots attempt to kill Humans (If you argue that Wily's R.M.s did, I'd probably have to say that he wouldn't exactly be the most likely person to program them into his robots. But nobody does other than Megaman in MM7, but Megaman is more than just a robot, he's a BAMF), yet in the X and Zero series, it's said that humanity is nearly destroyed by Reploids and Mavericks.
VoidedNote 1 year ago
Mega man is not more than a robot. He is just a robot, like any other in his time. proto man might be the exception, in that he is quite unique compared to others. but Rock... he is not. the "die wily scene " was also in the American version only, whereas in the Japanese, he points his buster at Wily, to which Wily scared, reminds rock he is not supposed to harm humans, to which Rock just goes "..."
FlameG102 1 year ago
@FlameG102 Really? I didn't know that about the Japanese version...
VoidedNote 1 year ago
@FlameG102 in what game does mega point his buster to wily like you said?
Anemite 1 year ago
Geez! Get a load of them eyebrows! D:
kaihedgie 1 year ago
i dont understand... if zero is stronger than x. why he says all the time that x is far stronger than him... ???
luispick 1 year ago
@luispick It's cause X has something special in him that Dr.Light gave him that Wily couldn't give Zero...if you watch the rise of sigma or w/e from the psp version of megaman X it explains it
Faltzerbeast90 1 year ago
funny we all know wily been making his presents known for such a long time in this seris be nice for them to finally put him in the X seris and them to finally make a megaman game that pretty much finishes the megaman game seris and it finally let us see what happens to the orginal megaman and what maded Dr light create X which was for the reason he was so advence for his time i all ways loved the megaman and megaman X game seris but i know alot of us wish we can just finally get the backstory
LucianMaximusify 1 year ago
funny how this guy did one move which pretty much stopped zero in his tracks and pretty much tells him he knows everything there is to know about him capcom just needs to fix the the story and put wily in all ready the laugh he does pretty much the same type wily all ways used just add the guy in all ready we all ready know wily is still around even if hes nothing more than a mere program of himself would be nice just to be able to tie togetor more loose ends with both games all ready
LucianMaximusify 1 year ago
in this cutscene Isoc mentions he repairs High Max...maybe after H.M was repaired X comes and defeats him and Isoc wents "WTF? HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE DERP"
coty099 2 years ago
X2: Serges is not Wily. He may have been aware of Zero's origins and shared Dr. Wily's view, but he's definitely not Wily. Pay no attention to the manga.
X5: The one who built Sigma's body was NOT Wily. If anything, I think it was Dr. Cain. Because he says to X "I believe you two know each other...in fact, he used to be a comrade of yours." Obviously this couldn't be true with Wily, since Wily was never a good guy and X never knew him. And with Dr. Cain never mentioned, this sounds good.
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
X6: Yes, Isoc is Wily. This is in every way obvious. The fact that they have the same voice actor doesn't mean anything, but Capcom intended Isoc to be Wily's reincarnation, as evidenced when you defeat Gate as Zero. Also here, where he says "I know you inside-out" quite literally, because he BUILT Zero.
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
Your X5 theory is wrong. Wily WAS a comrade of Dr. Light, therefore Sigma could have been reffering to that. Plus, Sigma's final form in X5 is based off Gamma from Megaman 3. PLUS, Sigma states that the man he knew was like his own father! This person Sigma was "working with" was none other than the virus inside him, telling him about Zero, and convincing Sigma to ignore his original ideals and focus on spreading the virus.
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
Except that:
1. The only time Wily ever worked with Dr. Light was in MM3. And he was referring to a comrade of X, not Dr. Light.
2. Sigma's final form is a combination of Gamma and his MMX1 final form.
3. He never said anything like "his own father" and even if he did, he's not talking about Wily since Cain was the one who built him, therefore strengthening my theory.
YOUR theory on the Zero Virus might work, except for the line "He's created quite a few robots."
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
Face Sigma as Zero. He states the man he is partnered with knows Zero as if he was his own father. And the "created quite a few robots" thing is referencing Dr. Wily's Robot Masters.
And Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were partners before the classic series, they created Protoman together.
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
The NES American timeline has been stated as obsolete by Inafune himself. Wily and Light never worked together. And anyway he says "He used to be a comrade of yours" meaning X, not Light, so this argument is pointless.
And yes, when he talks to Zero he clearly means Wily. But when he's talking to X, there's a contradiction, because he was never a comrade of anyone.
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
So therefore, Sigma's partner IS Wily in Zero's case, but your are saying that for X it might be a different story...
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
Right. When Zero meets him, it sounds like Wily, and when X meets him, it sounds like Cain. Given how they obviously didn't meet Sigma at the same time, and there's no telling of Cain's whereabouts (Isoc is Wily, but it's not told if Cain is dead or not) it could go either way.
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
Still, the various Wily references in the Virus stages...it seems convincing enough that it's Wily. Plus, you know how Capcom can translate things into English that don't make sense right? (Ex: Every dialogue scene in X6)
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
Possibly, and I know it's much more likely that he was still talking about Wily and the comrade thing was just a translation error. The whole series is a translation error. Capcom needs to make more Maverick Hunter X's that update the storyline.
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
Unfortunately, that may never happen, as the PSP isn't that popular, especially in Japan, and since Maverick Hunter X had poor sales.
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
Well, they could continue it on other consoles. Maybe do X2 on the DS or make it downloadable.
CCrockyourass 2 years ago
We'll just have to see...
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
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"he's not talking about Wily since Cain was the one who built him"
What ? No ! Zero was built by Wily as his greatest masterpice. Cain reprogrammed him, that's all.
PiikeiWarupu 2 years ago
The theory I have is quite simple. Dr. Wily wanted to make sure his plan would proceed as planned, so he created Serges and Isoc(And possibly even others) and gave them orders to watch over Zero and possibly upgrade him with the Saber and chest parts. Nothing to do with "Reviving him" or anything. Just to make sure the Virus does its job and to make sure Zero is harvesting for the apocalypse.
SuperSketch008 2 years ago
My personal theory is that Wily tried to cheat death in old age, and attempted to recreate his own brain in the form a computer can understand and follow. He then inserted this program into a robot body along with all his memories and activated the robot. This robot is Isoc, who has been behind the scenes helping Sigma and other villans so that he could insure Zero would not stray from his purpose: to destroy X. In X5 he came close to this goal...
VoidedNote 2 years ago 2
There's no doubt about it though, Isoc is in one form or another, Dr. Wily. Almost 50% of what Isoc says alludes to it and the fact that he calls Zero a robot and not a reploid pretty much confirms it 100%. Sigma also alludes to his survival of the Wily Wars in X5.
VoidedNote 2 years ago 2
it would be nice if capcom would give more clues with willy and zero than the broken bits and the hints half the time they hint he still alive and other times they hint hes dead but come on we seen so many things of willy presents in all most all the games but yet as i hear MMX series isnt connected to the old megaman series would be kinda nice if capcom would give a better answer of willy or if he ever goin to be a major factor like he use to be back in the old games
sillucian09 2 years ago
Isaac has the same voice actor in Japan as Dr. Wily! Is he really Wily?
KevinTheDuke22 2 years ago
I think Wily is communicating through him. It's why he goes dead when sigma shows up. He's seems to be just a puppet.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
Lol... Someone explain to me how Isac knows so much about Zero? Thought only Dr.Willy knew that much... Unless that's him somehow?
Luxai 2 years ago 2
Capcom has been teasing us and alluding to Wily's presence ever since Mega Man X2. I wish they would just reveal him already..
I think its what the true fans really want. Please bring back Wily for X9! Imagine how awesome it would be to just see Isoc return and reveal his true identity.
(Assuming he is Wily, which I'm pretty sure we can all agree on him probably being.)
MiDSinister 2 years ago 30
@MiDSinister yeah anyone whos a true magaman fan knows wily made zero and light made x. even in i believe magaman and bass you see blue prints of what looks like zero
Destroyahweapon 1 year ago
Those were actually Blueprints for "King ll" the Zero image shows up in power fighters, where Wily shows it to Bass.
FlameG102 1 year ago
@FlameG102 ah sorry its been years since i played those two games
Destroyahweapon 1 year ago
what about Dr. Weil from the megaman zero series
Sanders1521 1 year ago
@MiDSinister
Nope, thats Serges, Serges was the one who repaired and Uprgaded Zero's parts to tease X more. So Isoc wouldnt hurt his own creation. Isocs just a dick.
Thegoldandsilverboy7 1 year ago
@Thegoldandsilverboy7
I don't know about Serges. That possibility is there. But I'm still pretty sure about Isoc man. Besides, Isoc didn't really hurt Zero..just incapacitated him. And who else would know him "inside out"?
;) It is Wily dude.
MiDSinister 1 year ago 7
@MiDSinister
Serges was an X hunter in X2.
Thegoldandsilverboy7 1 year ago
@MiDSinister How can you not know these guys inside out? They're machines lol all you need are blueprints to know this. Now isn't it possible that Isoc stumbled on to Wily's things and found blueprints? All of you guys are just speculating without actual proof. As much as it would be cool to see Isoc be Wily i highly doubt it, i'd buy it more if wily was cryogenically frozen and came back as a human (Isoc is a reploid btw).
TrooperLinks 1 year ago
@TrooperLinks
1 ) In fiction things like this are usually in place for a reason, and aren't just some random coincidence. Especially given the following..
2 ) Nobody in the X series uses the term robot. Zero was told he was the strongest robot near Isoc's dead body.
3 ) Wily was present in X5, the previous game before X6.
4 ) Physically, Isoc resembles Wily.
5 ) And if it matters, same voice actor as Wily in Rockman 8.
Wily's body may be gone, but his soul can live on in a reploid.
MiDSinister 1 year ago
You missed the part where X and Zero are so incredibly complex that they are almost completely beyond the reach of their current science. And these are robots created a CENTURY earlier. Its very hard to repair them when they take damage, and their DNA programs are unanalyzable. Even Cain was unable to rebuild Zero, and he's the leading scientist of the X world. For isoc to "know him inside out", he can be nobody else. Not to mention calling Zero "boy" in an "im your elder" sort of way.
FlameG102 10 months ago
@MiDSinister Or maybe Isoc just knows his stuff. And if Capcom had intended to put Wily directly in the X series, they wouldn't be stupid enough to leave out the hair-stache of doooom!
;) It is open to speculation and completely unanswered dude.
Dracula9AntiChapel 3 months ago
@MiDSinister Another give away is he stopped himself there, so it's like he was trying to stop himself from giving away anything.
Monkerr 2 months ago
It will be cool if Highmax appears in Megaman x9 if they made one...
Capcom should make a game bout Highmax.
gerghd 2 years ago
from all the theories i have heard, the one saying that Isoc is the Sigma Partner, and willy's continuation due to the virus, is the most brilliant
MrLou5 2 years ago 2
I agree with that theory. I think that Isoc is a shell for the Zero Virus, the original version of the Maverick Virus, which was Dr. Wily's attempt to live forever and also control Zero. Unfortunately, he lost control of Zero when Dr. Cain installed a 'Suffering Circuit" into him after Sigma originally defeated him (see X4 clip), and the virus was transferred to Sigma, where it mutated and changed to carry Sigma's consciousness instead of Wily's.
927541 2 years ago
As Isoc or in some other form, the virus definitely helped Sigma in X5. And then as Isoc it helped Gate in X6. I think it was manipulating both of them though for its own ends. Some people hypothesize that the two minds (Sigma's and Wily's) met in the Sigma Virus itself and that was how they collaborated in X5 and possibly in X2, in which case the Sigma Virus still carried some of Wily's consciousness. Another possibility is that Wily implanted the virus in other places besides in Zero.
927541 2 years ago
Maybe Wily designed Isoc as the virus's body, and it has been helping Sigma behind the scenes all along. For example, who designed Sigma's X4 body? X2 Sigma's body was made by the X-Hunters (who may also be related to Wily or the virus), X3's by Dr. Doppler, X5's by "Wily" in some form, X6's by Isoc and Gate, X7's and X8's most likely by members of the Jacob Elevator Project, but X4's? And how did Sigma and the X-Hunters learn about the Zero's true nature in X2?
Sorry for talking so much. =P
927541 2 years ago
una de las mejores voces de zero es esta sin duda y la de X tambien chevre el video =)
MX8 2 years ago 2
zeros voice is totally awesome
alexfheind 2 years ago
hey guys i juz wanna ask dat..do X really have met Dr.Wily b4? if its not..how Dr.Wily die? does it due to old ages? i hope that explain why in Megaman x9 later^^
runza123 2 years ago
Willy is delighted as he finally surpassed Megaman, his old rival, in this case, X
MaverickHunterVile 2 years ago 5
2:14 Daaaiijooooubu ka XD
PegasoltaEclair 2 years ago 3
It should be better if these scenes are somehow cinematic like in X4.
ororkabebe 2 years ago 4
Its Wily..
InfectedArtanis 2 years ago 18
well it could be willy but he died? i mean any explanation for why he died?:s
seda333 2 years ago
Wily did die, but brought back by the Virus.
InfectedArtanis 2 years ago 4
yeha i know its willy but it mean that willy is dead? or he is in a progarm or is a virus:s and dr ligth its a program now?:s
seda333 2 years ago
what happened to issoc? i play this game and never figth him
seda333 2 years ago
He fell prey to the "erasure incident" In other words, his brain deleted itself. The erasure incident has something to do with the GBA games.
X6800 2 years ago
cool they talk in japanese :)
hajimenoippopower2 3 years ago
too bad they never got to remake the game on psp. this scene would have been interesting.
Rockman2900 3 years ago
MORE,MORE \O\O/O/
Yagamikun 3 years ago