High voltage from water drops

[justgivemethetruth]

AS much as I like the tune "Take Five", physics is really not meant to be explained by music, without text or speech. This is a very amazing experiment but very hard to see in this video with no explanation.

[ykonik]

@justgivemethetruth Sorry to hear that. I made some very short text explanation in french in that video. But I must admit my goal was not to explain enterely all the physics principles behind that device but was to create interest in physics. Those who are curious enough with a researcher way of thinking can still find info very easily on the web. As you can see in other comments I always try to do my best to answer any physical question. Feel free to ask . But ...

[vik95170]

très bonne vidéo, enfin un résultat intéressant ;)

[HybridWaterMan2]

It doesn't matter to me where the work came from initially- still a very cool effect to generate enough voltage (miiliamps only) to jump that gap.

[Peterwhitlock]

the power seams very small. The water moving in odd fashion is way more important. I am told it make power but if it can't light a bulb or make anything work...kind of pointless. it has to be practical and so a flow of water in a turbine is more logical than this very low power turn out that a relative turbine beats each time? What practical use has this low power?

[jazzooka]

excellent !

[Noaige]

really hard to do!!, it has water splitting electrons as it falls making it do all tht awesome stuff ;D

[2ndworstchannelever]

The electrons don't split. If they did it would be WAY more awesome. It's cool anyway though.

[nguyentuan1990]

how does it work, i know that the machine somehow converts potential energy into electrical energy.

[gtarrant2]

the water drops fall due to gravity. as the drops fall they pick up kinetic energy similar to static electricity. by passing the drops through the ring then discharging them on an opposing plate it creates potential between the two poles. that energy has to go somewhere so there is a breakout spark. think of each water droplet as a magnet causing ripples in the metal ring as it passes by.

[t1bre]

how much energy was generated compared to the energy used to create the vortex stream

[Smellify]

The energy added into the system was done by humans to lift the water to a higher level. The muscles lifted the water. Then gravity pulled it down. So it does not produce energy it just wastes sugar in your muscles. Think about how the water got to a higher level. The sun raises water into the clouds also and this causes lightning. lightning is giving off energy because the sun caused water to mechanically move and rub.

[1acount]

not true,the sun doesnt cause water to rise,the earths gravity does,the suns light causes the water to become more energetic but the sun doesnt pull the water upthe earths gravity sucks down the less energetic substances and that creats a vacume into wich the more energetic substances move,second ideally for this water thread experiment you want to use living water,water thats been moved in its natural spiral vortex motion thatconcentrates orgone energy and creates bioelectricity

[illegalninja13]

. . .gravity has nothing to do with makeing water evaporate. the sun heats water molecules up making them want to spread out more turning it from a liquid to a gas, which rises and condenses into clouds. gravity has absolutely nothing to do with this process o.O

[ActiveStorage]

@Smellify mechanically move and rub. ahahah LOL. do u even know how molecules interact with one another? they dont "rub" mechanically lol.

[a2zhandi]

@Smellify let rain lift it for you! Rain is the vehicle which delivers "free" energy

[bogstandardcomp]

Neat & original way of getting it to work.

[FCKEVRY1]

What can this electricity be used for?

[Smellify]

It is just a neat experiment, I do not think that electricity can be used for anything more useful because you have to add energy using your muscles anyway. It would be probably easier to generate electricity from using turbines that capture water movement in a water fall. i.e. why setup one of these devices on Niagra falls when we already have turbines?

[singedrac]

Someone should make a lawn ornament like this, powered by rain. :D

[gilligan80]

what about centrifugal pumps........???

just a good argument i guess

[malibudream]

It's good for a bomb detonation?

[orion1077]

Guys...this does not produce any energy. The sparks come from accumulated charge that breaks through the air gap(between the electrodes). The charge gets accumulated by the energy from the water that goes through the air. The water already has potential energy (you put it there with your hands), and is turning it to kinetic energy as it falls. Some of this energy results in charge being accumulated to the metal (due to the water air interaction/friction).

[ActiveStorage]

@orion1077 and what is friction?

[a2zhandi]

@orion1077 so in essence, you can get free energy from rain!

[elcid990081]

please explain to me how it works on producing electricity

[elcid990081]

Please explain why does it produce electricity? i am very interested

[TOUTest1]

May someone help me.

I did many try and never generate electricity.

You can see my 2 montages by clicking on my nick.

Please reply on my videos comments.

[1gunner1000]

This is good evidence of my free current hypothesis of a usable electrical current from the ocean from just slapping of waves, or possible current (electron flow) from pressure at certain depths because if its natural conductivity.

[docantoniog]

Do you measurements of potencial diference in your machine? Theoretical analysis of this device? Bye António

[mikey31415]

What is the name of the background music???

[lotusbomber15]

take five by dave brubeck

[Snakk3]

i made one to my school project

but after some improvements stills not working.

can i use steel rings? or do i need to use copper ones? please answer me

by the way, your kelvin water dropper looks very cool (i like the way you made it)

[ykonik]

hi ! I used normal water , and I did nothing to break the symetry. Even the slightest difference between the left and the right side breaks it. Finally I would say the copper the better: it's more conductive but it should work with steel too. I think you are probably loosing the charge somewhere, be careful that everything is well isolated. Thanks for being interested.

[Snakk3]

thanks. im going to see what is left to isolate.

if after that "he refuses" to not work, can i send you some photos by e-mail so that you can give me some advice?

[ActiveStorage]

@ykonik glad to find out that symmetry of the assembly is important. also did u try any other substances apart from water? fero-fluid maybe? salt water? also the velocity of the water flow, does it make a difference in voltage? many thanks

[ykonik]

@ActiveStorage We were under time pressure but we tried salted water the results were the same. We haven't had enough time to try fero-fluid or to increase the water velocity without modifying the water nozzles sprayers. We could have applied pressure in the tank but back then we were to tight on schedule to try everything we wanted.

[Logic4Magic]

How did you break the symmetry to build a votage potential? by imbalance the water drop amount? or by using different type metal rings?

[themountainviewguy]

it is not as easy to see the appartus in this video as some others.

[boxa888]

that was sick seeing the water droplets poping off the water. it looked like they were being repeled by there own charge, i bet it would look even cooler if u make if stronger, u would probably have a mist or something

[ADDR0111]

hi, i got a question about your experiment. it is about the metal rings you used in the experiment for induction. are those made of iron or steel? cos i did the same experiment myself with tin cans and it did not work. do you have any suggestion? i will be very glad looking forward to you reply. thank you.

[ykonik]

Hi addro the rings are copper made, but it can work with tin cans. I made one with tin cans at home for fun. The inside of the tin cans are painted with some kind of invisible varnsh to avoid the food from touching the metal. You have to remove the varnish.

[ykonik]

You can burn the inside with a blowtorch then remove the remnants with some emery paper. Then chech with an ohmmetter that the can is conductive. Another piece of advice is to try to isolate every part that shoudn't conduct as much as you can in order to not loose the charges.

[ykonik]

I have used a lot of parafilm to wrap the outside of the can that receive the dropplets. I also wrapped the electric cables. I placed the device on pieces of polystyrene to isolate it from the ground. Try to do it in a dry room ( not the bathroom) and during a dry day. the water column has to split into dropplets at the middle in height and in the center of the inductive rings.

[ykonik]

Be careful that the water does not touch the inductive ring during its fall. I hope for you it will work better now. Let me know.

[ADDR0111]

hi ykonik, thanx a lot for ur reply. really helpful advices.after watching ur video i also realize my other mistake is the gap(diameter) of the metal rings is too big also. i will try ur advices n i will let u know if i succeed. keep on the good work! n thanx again.

[CCVSintra]

You used destiled water or normal water?

[hwymadness850]

If I were smart enough to understand this, I'd probably think it was pretty cool.

[glen196969]

neat stuff. question . Is there a power source or does the h2o pick up a charge while going threw the tubes.??Do you have plans?Could this be made bigger? Big enough to power water electrolis?

[ykonik]

There is no external power source. The electricity is made by the friction between the air and the water dropplet during its fall. I have no plans but you can find some searching "kelvin generator" on google. This can be made bigger but it won't provide higher voltage. One of many limits of the machine is the size of the water dropplets.

[ykonik]

Unfortunately even if you can obtain high voltage with this device you cannot power water eletrolis because the current has a ridiculous strength (less than 0.000001 Ampere). Thanks for being interested.

[glfsophia]

Well done! I made a Kelvin several years ago but it didn't have the capacity to light diodes continuously like yours.

[ykonik]

Thank you. Actually, in order to make the light bulb flash continuously we made a series connection including the bulb with the spark assembly two points placed face to face. In this way, every time a spark come through the points, the light bulb flashes. The spark assembly just act as a capacitor. Do you have a picture of your Kelvin ?

[glfsophia]

Sorry, no. But we might build another this year. If so, I'll post a video.