He makes some good points in his speeches but is sexist in general. I suggest reading 10 lies men believe and Abusing Scripture as well what Paul really said about Women. I wish he'd come at this from a more Egalitarian view. My husband and I are leaders/partners together as the bible clearly states many times over that we should be. When you disempower women, sadly you encourage what he is so against. Please be open minded and read the books I suggested.
When I heard this sermon I finally had to walk away. He has become the fundamentalist preacher that he himself loathes. The one that screams in self righteousness at the sin out there while acting as if he himself is the example. He should not say "How dare you?" He should say "How dare we?" He himself has admitted that he did these things to his wife before they were married. A little humility would have been very powerful.. but then this hypocrite would not have won the fundamentalist crowd.
When I heard this sermon I finally had to walk away. He has become the fundamentalist preacher that he himself loathes. The one that screams in self righteousness at the sin out there while acting as if he himself is the example. He should not say "How dare you?" He should say "How dare we?" He himself has admitted that he did these things to his wife before they were married. A little humility would have been very powerful.. but then this hypocrite would not have won the fundamentalist crowd.
@ReallySad1 I completely agree with saying "how dare we," but only if its something that "we" still struggle with. Yes, we all sin. But he's not addressing sin as a whole in this sermon, he's addressing a specific struggle, one which he openly admitted he at one point struggled with, yet doesn't anymore. Truth is bold. Truth hurts. But we just hate being told what we're doing is wrong. Driscoll's a healthy dose of truth, and there is nothing in this that doesn't contradict the bible. Its truth.
I admit he is a little extreme but I like that he actually mentioned guys who have sex indiscriminately (with no intention of matrimony) and claim to be Christian. The reason for my stance is that I see girls/women told off about this very issue so many times from the religious stand point it's nice to know somebody out there realizes hey those same "un-Christian" girls must be having sex with "un-Christian" boys.
This clown is ridiculous. He is just bandwagon jumping and following the trend of kicking men around. He sure casts some judgement on a gender. No person should be ashamed of their gender...that is fucking ridiculous.
My good Christian guy friend recommended this to me,I am getting out a of really abusive marriage finally. I wish this man could have talked to him like he needed so badly. No man should lay a hand in an unloving way to a women and vise versa! 2:41-5:15!!! WOW, broke down crying.
That's freakin awesome... I think he hits all of us men in that sermon on some level. We've all failed miserably in loving our wives and serving them as Christ served the church.
Everybody wants to bitch about feminism, gee i wonder why women got tired of men. I am a 32 yr old single woman and im single cuz i refuse to tolerate abuse, when they start with that 'Im the man im in charge' mentality, they are gone. Good men are as scarce as water in a dessert. I'd rather go thru life alone than deal with that, I know who I am and that God loves me and has a good plan for my life. Women need to step up and say NO MORE!! Women are not human doormats/punching bags.
@79agp Women can be just as abusive as men. Let's face it, women think they deserve special treatment and always seem to reject good guys to go out with the jerks. Today women are just bitter hypocrites.
@SoldierOfChrist110 I know your comment is old and i am just getting around to responding to it. I personally as a woman do not feel the need for special treatment. However I hate fucks that abuse women just bc they feel they can get away with it. I would love to have a good guy, but in our society today they r hard to come by. I am not a gold digger, i make my own way, but so many of these fools want to take over and be 'king'. Fuck that, SERIOUSLY? Im better off alone!
@79agp In too have lost faith in women and would rather be alone. My point is that women can be just as evil as men but society tries to make more excuses for women. I do not know where you are from, but in the UK where I'm from more and more women are choosing to have relationships with abusive men who take drugs and drink etc, while the good guys continue to get rejected.
@SoldierOfChrist110 Thank you for your feedback, you have to keep the faith. Not all women are like that just like not all men are abusers. I am from close to Houston TX, US. I get frustrated cuz i hav friends who are addicted to loser abusive men. Yes evil does not discriminate man or woman its a people thing. Hang in there and be true to yourself. May God bless and keep you and bring you the right girl at the right time!
@79agp No, I have chosen to stay single. I am happy being single. I have just lost faith in women. I only trust God. Both men and women today can't be trusted. The way men behave today in the UK is awful and shameful. It's animal behaviour. But women in the UK are not far behind. Many women in the UK don't even know who the father of their child is. The world is messed up. I just don't like it when people try to put all the blame on men. Both men and women are at fault.
@SoldierOfChrist110 Thats good you choose to stay single right now just like I do because of this season in your life. I dont know how the people of UK behave but I can almost guarantee you it aint no better here. Yet all Ive been thru I havent lost hope, Im just not gonna be stupid and be used and pushed around. Staying single can be a very wise choice, its up to the Lord to decide otherwise.
Wow, an apologetic Christian mangina. Shocking. Wonder how we got where we are with marriage, abortion, and the status of family? It's been an assault on 2 fronts by liberal feminazi's and their enforcers. You guess who those are? White Knights like this guy. Think about it. Women abuse children at a 3 to 1 ratio. Women initiate violence in relationships more often. We gonna hear that sermon? Thought not...
Wow, an apologetic Christian mangina. Shocking. Wonder how we got where we are with marriage, abortion, and the status of family? It's been an assault on 2 fronts by liberal feminazi's and their enforcers. You guess who those are? Christian men. Think about it. Women abuse children at a 3 to 1 ratio. Women initiate violence in relationships more often. We gonna hear that sermon? Thought not...
Pastor Driscoll, you demean and abuse women with the arrogant, ignorant remarks you make in your sermons. Take the log out of your own eye and start esteeming women instead of belittling us and telling us we are commanded to violate our consciences to gratify the deviant sexual appetites of our husbands, if they have them.
@ThusFar777 Please show me the sermon where he commands women to violate their consciences to gratify the deviant sexual appetites of their husbands. I have listened to most of them and did not find anything remotely close to what you accuse him of commanding. In fact I have found the exact opposite, which is in accordance to the bible, and that is for men to love and sacrifice for their wives and wives to respect their husbands. Please show me this as I am very curious. I need sermon name, date
@ThusFar777 and link to where these words from Mark can be found. If you can find these words that you accuse Pastor Mark of commanding the Mars Hill women to do, or any kind of clear evidence of Pastor Mark using these words and phrases (of course not taken out of context) then let me know immediately. I will then submit this evidence directly to Pastor Mark as well as the elders of his church and others. Of course I will need your name - you can send me a direct message with this info. Thanks.
funny how he doesnt say shit about abusive non submissive women.
% people say the bible is sexist fairytale myth written by men 2 oppress women. even though they can always point 2 verses that favor women.
ps so Adam abused eve eh....cant say she did deserve it. adam ate from the tree of life giving us all immortality. eve comes and fucks it up for EVERYONE that will ever live on the planet by eating from the forbidden tree, yeah that warrants a few hits.
Additional to anyone who read my last message: It is also wise to wear a condom or for a woman to go on the pill in order to prevent any unwanted babies.
I am talking about consenting adults and not rape nor adultery.
Driscoll was ok until he started spouting off about repenting and giving yourself to God. What arrogance, God is a genocidal, infanticidal, homophobic, rape condoning tyrant.
@roac7777 ... You don't know God then. Study the Bible more, don't study the negative behaviors of foolish people. Have an educated opinion. God is loving... If He was a tyrant, He wouldn't have sent Jesus. Jesus was anti-tyrant. Study a little more and you will see that.
@roac7777 Additional: Jesus was devisive and immoral. No one can take your so called sins away. He was devisive when he said "if any man loves his father, family etc then he cannot be a disciple of mine".
There is no historical evidence that Jesus existed, but I will allow that, I will say that someone like him existed, however the miracles, the virgin birth and the ascension are all myth.
'most of the abuse that goes on is from men toward women'
~WRONG, this has been proven through numerous studies. any physical contact or contact with a projectile of any kind or extension of person A to person B can be considered as assault. with this fact, women abuse men far more. they are more likly to pck something up and hit a man with it or throw it and hit him. and how many times has a woman slapped a man (yes that is assault) count those up compared 2 men & u will c
and it should be easy to see why. apart from all the feminist 'empowerment' indoctrination. we have the fact that unlike men women have no incentive to behave. they dont have the indoctrination from childhood not to hit men, or the cops carting them to jail just cause the man said she hit him with no proof, or people on the street ready to jump her and beat her if she lays a hand on a man. women have nothing keeping them in line, yet they get more abuse?
'If you have the ability, I would suggest doing a study of the abuse of men, towards women vs women towards men. Men have more testosterone...'
did you read anything i said? & that study has already been done (as ive said), they found women are more abusive (more likely to start a physical fights, throw things, him men with things, etc) testosterone evidently has nothing to do with it.
ps there should b questions asked. what if the person with the mark did it 2 them self
'Most women I know, have never hit a man nor....'
~ yeah most....
'what is your point?'
~ right now my point is, just cause an your friends supposedly dont, doesnt mean the rest of western women are like you.
'no, the cops do not just "cart someone off to jail" with no proof'
~ u have any idea how stupid you look saying this. that is exactly what happens when i guy hits a girl or when she says he hit her, weather she has proof or not.
'I've had to sit by and listen to a man beat on a woman and yell and scream at her for an hour....and called the cops, only to have them say "there are no bruises, we can't do a thing" and then leave.'
~if this story even is true, 1) he must be a pussy if he can hit ANYONE for an hour and not leave a mark 2) u sat there for an hour before you called the cops to help your friend 3) i guarantee u if u actually did call , they carted him off.
'You don't know what you are talking about, sorry.'
~ you can tell yourself that all you want. i actually have proof to back up what im saying. and unlike you i dont need to lie and make up stories.
ps thank god im not your friend, your gonna sit ther and let me get beat for an hour before you call the cops. cops dont take an hour to get to a house unless its south east DC, and if you live there you probably dont have a computer or access to one.
everyone else minded their own business, and had their own problems, thats why they probably didnt call. and that doesnt change the facts of what i said, especially you waiting 1 hour before you called.
gay ass internet terms aside me being 23 has nothing to do with anything. i can do research and see what other people who have also done research and shown evidence has done. im not incapable of doing that till im 50+ as u seem to think. so ill pretend i dont know why your bringing up my age.
(thats like me saying 1+1=2, and u saying u r 23yrs old, u dont know what u r talking about)
how about u not try to go off topic, and instead refute my claim since u say theyre wrong
This guy is the first pastor I've heard that speaks like he's a bible character. I got convicted just watching this. I've been guilty of fornication with my girlfriend, and I've been fighting to stay pure and not fall in that area anymore. I'm not angry at this guy at all. He's for real, and this rebuke is a real encouragement to me.
What's up with this "Dude"?He tells everybody to shut up!!Just check a lot of his videos on youtube.He's nuts......but there is more to him than meets the eyes.Look him up,he's a Hypocrite Period!
@Staff7 But that faith should be able to transform a person, if not then we would say that person has no faith at all. Faith is not without reason but from experience, it is not blind.
So Mark Driscoll uses cursing & yelling at time 1:23 to make a false Holy Spirit conviction just so he can get more money by "passing the plate" at time 4:10?
Ya... that's leaven.
Matthew 16:6
And Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil: which some reaching after have been led astray from the faith, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
"Some of you guys are single but still having sex", so what.
It is the fundamental basic right of every consenting adult on this planet to have sex with whom they wish as long as it harms no one.
By all means use condoms or the pill, you dont want any unwanted babies.
Driscoll is totally wrong to condemn those who are single, are consenting adults and have sex, its their business, no person, religion or government has the right to criticise those who do.
oh sorry so sex with good-looking girls...??? still your such a little boy who craves over things that temporarily satisfies a deadly appetite... besides, this preaching are to equip Christians... so if you aren't going to accept this convicting message, better screen yourself little kid...
no, you're the one who had a problem, and don't run from what i','m saying... girls or should i say 'good-looking girls' are not a past-time to feed your sexual needs...
and if you really think you're a man enough, go get yourself a WIFE and make love to her instead of being single and defiling every beatiful creation of God, consuming their beauty and treating them like toys...!!! woman are to be respected like men and everone else, i do respect you but as far as the Holy Spirit is concerned, you are not respecting those good-looking woman....
they're not your playmates dude that you can use whenever your sexual appetite gets hungry, now go get a girl and marry her and LOVE her for the rest of your life or it'll be condemnation for you... and one thing more, i'm just a guy who is thankfully didn't get to experience what you are doing because God revealed to me how to live in Holiness and Righteousness that is also termed as SELF-DENIAL...
Right lets get the record straight. 1. I am married, I have not had sex with other women since being married.
2. The girls I had sex with when I was single, WANTED to have sex as much as I did.
3. Your last statement is total nonsense. You have never met God, no one has, you dont know him, no one does. But, now here is the rub, he does not exist.
well then, if we are created based on coincidendence, you can never see a human with two hands, a nose, two eyes... all of us would be created uneqally: some with two heads, wthout eyes, some with tail or fins all because of a mere coincidence... i'm sorry, theres nothing on your profile that attracts my attention...
iim goona tell you one more tine that there is a GOD, the one who draws your face even before you were created byu your parents but have given you the freedom to choose: to accept or reject His Love for you (john 3:16)...
It should read: After mankind evolved from apes and became homo sapiens mankind created ''God''.
sitill you mentined God somehow...
and its a HOLY SCRIPTURE, not a scripture...
explain everything to me, show scientific facts and every little evidence to disapprove God's existence... still i believe in this creation with the divine creator which is God.... besides, science is a mere study of God's creations...
Do you realize by saying Scientific evidence is the only truth, you are making a philosophical statement that you are affirming as true? Its totally contradictory. There are lots of things science can't prove
I stick by my original statement, you are incorrect.
There are still things that science cannot explain, however scientists are continually finding things out. Look how far we have got in the last 150 years, the progress is truly amazing.
You are probably an atheist of Zeus, Thor and unicorns but you cannot disprove their existence because they are supernatural. My disbelief in your god is the same as my disbelief in Zeus, Thor and unicorns.
@glooer That is an inaccurate statement in that most scientists are atheists. The few who do believe in a religion have the same reasons as all believers, they are deluded. The logical side of their thinking has abandoned them.
What many men/boys don't understand is just how strongly physical aggression really impacts women. Even just one episode of sexual attention from a pig is enough to scar us for life, and I am not exaggerating. The most attractive sort of man is completely secure and treats me better than I treat myself. Don't be those men. Please... Please don't be like that... You have no idea how horrible it is.
@beebaytah I know a woman who will never marry because of a painfull college experience.I'm trying to help her but she built up a block to marriage.She wants a family but her fear of men is so strong that she no longer believes she will marry.I think men hope women 'get over it' but my guess is they won't.
tell that to the men that get assaulted by women and no one comes to the mans aid, tackles and beats the shit out of the woman , and tells her 'dont hit men'. and thats not even including the cops who are supposed to be unbiased and protect everyone. i wonder how much life scarring comes from that
and yes a slap is assault, which most if not all women are guilty of a least 20 times in their life
A great example of why I love Driscoll's preaching style. I for one get moved when a preacher is so impassioned. I would also show this video to the women out there that think Driscoll is a woman-hater.
you really need to watch the whole sermon to understand this part, more than likely he is not talking to Christians but to those who are lying to themselves thinking they are Christians misusing God's daughters
A good Christian Preacher tells the truth. Pastor Mark tells exactly what is in the Bible. God HATES men who treat their wives in 1 Peter 3:7 says"husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing HONOR to the woman as the weaker vessel". I can maybe understand that this may concern you if you are not familiar with Driscoll or his church. You should really watch the entire sermon and this will make more sense.Driscoll taken out of context can make it seem weird for some people.
@jksjnc "A good Christian preacher" yeah sure, Driscoll is a typical self righteous religious bigot. How dare he tell young people it is wrong to have sex out of marriage. It is the right of every consenting adult to have sex with whom they wish as long as know hurt is committed. Of course its wise to wear condoms for partners who one has not been acquainted for a long period of time.
1 there are a select few things that god hates man for and thats not one of them
2 its funny how people quote the bible when it favors them as you did here. but the moment the bible says something you dont want. 'oh its a sexist fairy tale myth written by men, etc'
now then what does the bible say about women who hit men, or dont submit to their husbands, and are on this feminist, strong independent (insert race here) woman, bullshit. huh?
on the contrary this is an example of a great christian preacher. He will lead his flock whether its easy or not, whether they want to be told the truth or not, whether its fun or not.
his theology is straight and he won't back down just because people don't like what he is saying. If he sees it in the Bible he will unashamedly preach it. And either way its not about mark at all. I didn't upload the video because it was mark driscoll. I uploaded it because the message was good, more people need to hear this truth, and to try and break peoples stereotyped views of "christians". We are not all like Osteen and the like...
His message is completely true. His method is probably...different. But to those who are "disturbed" by him...for every 1 preacher who preaches like this, there are 50 others who do it the "nice way". So it's not the end of the world.
This is very disturbing . . . it was meant to be. If you are not disturbed by sin then you don't understand how awful it is nor to you really understand God's righteous wrath.
Further, this is not good Christian preaching, this is great Christian preaching. As a preacher myself, I am inspired to tell the truth plainly, while still expressing love (as Driscoll did).
We can all be characterized as hypocrites instead, Christ says we are sinners. All of us! Nobody's perfect. The question is, will we humble ourselves before him and repent?
all Churches have hypocrites. No one is perfect and the is no perfect Church. Going along with what nosral says, we are all Sinners but Christ loves us all. Christ receives sinners. Now you tell me that's not love.
"because God's daughters need to be loved like Christ loved the church" @5:14
Amen.
jerem18h 1 week ago
He makes some good points in his speeches but is sexist in general. I suggest reading 10 lies men believe and Abusing Scripture as well what Paul really said about Women. I wish he'd come at this from a more Egalitarian view. My husband and I are leaders/partners together as the bible clearly states many times over that we should be. When you disempower women, sadly you encourage what he is so against. Please be open minded and read the books I suggested.
cherylwoodcock1 1 week ago
It's a shame he didn't talk about abusive women!
SoldierOfChrist110 2 weeks ago
AMEN!!!!!
slicknerdchick13 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Man he lost alotta members that day.LOL Good Word bruh!!! I applaud your boldness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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When I heard this sermon I finally had to walk away. He has become the fundamentalist preacher that he himself loathes. The one that screams in self righteousness at the sin out there while acting as if he himself is the example. He should not say "How dare you?" He should say "How dare we?" He himself has admitted that he did these things to his wife before they were married. A little humility would have been very powerful.. but then this hypocrite would not have won the fundamentalist crowd.
ReallySad1 5 months ago
When I heard this sermon I finally had to walk away. He has become the fundamentalist preacher that he himself loathes. The one that screams in self righteousness at the sin out there while acting as if he himself is the example. He should not say "How dare you?" He should say "How dare we?" He himself has admitted that he did these things to his wife before they were married. A little humility would have been very powerful.. but then this hypocrite would not have won the fundamentalist crowd.
ReallySad1 5 months ago
@ReallySad1 I completely agree with saying "how dare we," but only if its something that "we" still struggle with. Yes, we all sin. But he's not addressing sin as a whole in this sermon, he's addressing a specific struggle, one which he openly admitted he at one point struggled with, yet doesn't anymore. Truth is bold. Truth hurts. But we just hate being told what we're doing is wrong. Driscoll's a healthy dose of truth, and there is nothing in this that doesn't contradict the bible. Its truth.
thebramsicle 1 month ago
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ReallySad1 5 months ago
I admit he is a little extreme but I like that he actually mentioned guys who have sex indiscriminately (with no intention of matrimony) and claim to be Christian. The reason for my stance is that I see girls/women told off about this very issue so many times from the religious stand point it's nice to know somebody out there realizes hey those same "un-Christian" girls must be having sex with "un-Christian" boys.
Duszka 6 months ago
wow! preach it! nothing frustrates me more than controlling guys who are so so sure they are right.
sheywright 7 months ago
This clown is ridiculous. He is just bandwagon jumping and following the trend of kicking men around. He sure casts some judgement on a gender. No person should be ashamed of their gender...that is fucking ridiculous.
jerome3151 7 months ago
My good Christian guy friend recommended this to me,I am getting out a of really abusive marriage finally. I wish this man could have talked to him like he needed so badly. No man should lay a hand in an unloving way to a women and vise versa! 2:41-5:15!!! WOW, broke down crying.
Laelasmom 8 months ago
Wow he's been around since 1995...I'm disappointed that I haven't heard of this guy until now....
dougmoerhoffman 8 months ago
I could put this on repeat to get pumped! Be a Man! Yeah!
sorry if that sounds dorky, no sarcasm intended...
dougmoerhoffman 8 months ago
amen!
slicknerdchick13 8 months ago
My brother says: "GULP!"
...I sure hope this guy doesn't yell at his wife.
FoydlBobey 8 months ago 2
Thank you very much for this.
greenranger8100 9 months ago
WELL SAID! We need more people defending women who are abused! God Bless you
LittleQueenTudor 9 months ago
Praise the Lord! That is grace and fire. Let the sound of righteousness be LOUD!
fireitupministries 9 months ago
Where are the godly men
max123317 9 months ago 2
fucling yepo!!!! can we clone this guy?
lifeflow2011 9 months ago
That's freakin awesome... I think he hits all of us men in that sermon on some level. We've all failed miserably in loving our wives and serving them as Christ served the church.
mwells3456 9 months ago 2
Everybody wants to bitch about feminism, gee i wonder why women got tired of men. I am a 32 yr old single woman and im single cuz i refuse to tolerate abuse, when they start with that 'Im the man im in charge' mentality, they are gone. Good men are as scarce as water in a dessert. I'd rather go thru life alone than deal with that, I know who I am and that God loves me and has a good plan for my life. Women need to step up and say NO MORE!! Women are not human doormats/punching bags.
79agp 10 months ago
@79agp
That's exactly how I feel.
FoydlBobey 8 months ago
@79agp Women can be just as abusive as men. Let's face it, women think they deserve special treatment and always seem to reject good guys to go out with the jerks. Today women are just bitter hypocrites.
SoldierOfChrist110 3 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 I know your comment is old and i am just getting around to responding to it. I personally as a woman do not feel the need for special treatment. However I hate fucks that abuse women just bc they feel they can get away with it. I would love to have a good guy, but in our society today they r hard to come by. I am not a gold digger, i make my own way, but so many of these fools want to take over and be 'king'. Fuck that, SERIOUSLY? Im better off alone!
79agp 1 month ago
@79agp In too have lost faith in women and would rather be alone. My point is that women can be just as evil as men but society tries to make more excuses for women. I do not know where you are from, but in the UK where I'm from more and more women are choosing to have relationships with abusive men who take drugs and drink etc, while the good guys continue to get rejected.
SoldierOfChrist110 1 month ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 Thank you for your feedback, you have to keep the faith. Not all women are like that just like not all men are abusers. I am from close to Houston TX, US. I get frustrated cuz i hav friends who are addicted to loser abusive men. Yes evil does not discriminate man or woman its a people thing. Hang in there and be true to yourself. May God bless and keep you and bring you the right girl at the right time!
79agp 1 month ago
@79agp No, I have chosen to stay single. I am happy being single. I have just lost faith in women. I only trust God. Both men and women today can't be trusted. The way men behave today in the UK is awful and shameful. It's animal behaviour. But women in the UK are not far behind. Many women in the UK don't even know who the father of their child is. The world is messed up. I just don't like it when people try to put all the blame on men. Both men and women are at fault.
SoldierOfChrist110 1 month ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 Thats good you choose to stay single right now just like I do because of this season in your life. I dont know how the people of UK behave but I can almost guarantee you it aint no better here. Yet all Ive been thru I havent lost hope, Im just not gonna be stupid and be used and pushed around. Staying single can be a very wise choice, its up to the Lord to decide otherwise.
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Wow, an apologetic Christian mangina. Shocking. Wonder how we got where we are with marriage, abortion, and the status of family? It's been an assault on 2 fronts by liberal feminazi's and their enforcers. You guess who those are? White Knights like this guy. Think about it. Women abuse children at a 3 to 1 ratio. Women initiate violence in relationships more often. We gonna hear that sermon? Thought not...
Brajabu74 1 year ago
Wow, an apologetic Christian mangina. Shocking. Wonder how we got where we are with marriage, abortion, and the status of family? It's been an assault on 2 fronts by liberal feminazi's and their enforcers. You guess who those are? Christian men. Think about it. Women abuse children at a 3 to 1 ratio. Women initiate violence in relationships more often. We gonna hear that sermon? Thought not...
Brajabu74 1 year ago
This is not disturbing compared to how an abusive man acts. Very powerful message.
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danushaka100 1 year ago
This is one of the only times I think saying "Who the hell do you think you are?" in church is alright.
Mark Driscoll is a REAL man.
These jokes on youtube saying HE "demeans" women in his sermons, could definitely learn something from him.
He preaches the bible how it is.
God wants men to be like him. Powerful, and loving.
micahaarontewers 1 year ago
Pastor Driscoll, you demean and abuse women with the arrogant, ignorant remarks you make in your sermons. Take the log out of your own eye and start esteeming women instead of belittling us and telling us we are commanded to violate our consciences to gratify the deviant sexual appetites of our husbands, if they have them.
ThusFar777 1 year ago
@ThusFar777 Please show me the sermon where he commands women to violate their consciences to gratify the deviant sexual appetites of their husbands. I have listened to most of them and did not find anything remotely close to what you accuse him of commanding. In fact I have found the exact opposite, which is in accordance to the bible, and that is for men to love and sacrifice for their wives and wives to respect their husbands. Please show me this as I am very curious. I need sermon name, date
jlange73 1 year ago
@ThusFar777 and link to where these words from Mark can be found. If you can find these words that you accuse Pastor Mark of commanding the Mars Hill women to do, or any kind of clear evidence of Pastor Mark using these words and phrases (of course not taken out of context) then let me know immediately. I will then submit this evidence directly to Pastor Mark as well as the elders of his church and others. Of course I will need your name - you can send me a direct message with this info. Thanks.
jlange73 1 year ago
@jlange73 seriously...do your own homework - I have children to care for.
A bit of an older sermon but I assume Driscoll continues lead his flock down the road to exploitation...or else...where is the repentance?)
It was in his sermon that he preached in Scotland - “Sex, a Study of the Good Bits from Song of Solomon” (as if you didn't already know that.)
ThusFar777 1 year ago
..or you can read his little bit about anal sex and sex toys (including visiting pornographic chatrooms) in the Q&A in his Peasant Princess series.
ThusFar777 1 year ago
well this guys gettin pussy 2 nite.
funny how he doesnt say shit about abusive non submissive women.
% people say the bible is sexist fairytale myth written by men 2 oppress women. even though they can always point 2 verses that favor women.
ps so Adam abused eve eh....cant say she did deserve it. adam ate from the tree of life giving us all immortality. eve comes and fucks it up for EVERYONE that will ever live on the planet by eating from the forbidden tree, yeah that warrants a few hits.
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
Additional to anyone who read my last message: It is also wise to wear a condom or for a woman to go on the pill in order to prevent any unwanted babies.
I am talking about consenting adults and not rape nor adultery.
roac7777 1 year ago
Truth hath been spat.
TruthAlive 1 year ago
ask jesus as your savior to be saved! amen
bass109 1 year ago
ask jesus as your savior to be saved! amen
bass109 1 year ago
there is no tithes 2 corinthians 9:7 galatians 2,3. but this sermon i respect greatly.
bluesmann8 1 year ago
Driscoll was ok until he started spouting off about repenting and giving yourself to God. What arrogance, God is a genocidal, infanticidal, homophobic, rape condoning tyrant.
roac7777 1 year ago
@roac7777 ... You don't know God then. Study the Bible more, don't study the negative behaviors of foolish people. Have an educated opinion. God is loving... If He was a tyrant, He wouldn't have sent Jesus. Jesus was anti-tyrant. Study a little more and you will see that.
runbags4 1 year ago
@runbags4 Nobody, knows God, he does not exist.
roac7777 1 year ago
@roac7777 Additional: Jesus was devisive and immoral. No one can take your so called sins away. He was devisive when he said "if any man loves his father, family etc then he cannot be a disciple of mine".
There is no historical evidence that Jesus existed, but I will allow that, I will say that someone like him existed, however the miracles, the virgin birth and the ascension are all myth.
roac7777 1 year ago
@roac7777 Don't misquote the Bible please.
sfspop 1 year ago
@sfspop I have not misquoted the Bible at all. The Bible is just a fairy story, a myth.
roac7777 1 year ago
@roac7777 you did actually, annnnnnd prove it.
sfspop 1 year ago
@sfspop Do you have a stutter.
roac7777 1 year ago
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@roac7777 Prove it. You can't.
runbags4 1 year ago
One can honour and treat one's wife with dignity and respect, despite god and religion as one can be moral despite god and relgion.
roac7777 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
what do you mean 'especially toward women', so what god is more lenient on violence towards men.
....hmmmm so thats what these false prophets are teaching these days
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
'most of the abuse that goes on is from men toward women'
~WRONG, this has been proven through numerous studies. any physical contact or contact with a projectile of any kind or extension of person A to person B can be considered as assault. with this fact, women abuse men far more. they are more likly to pck something up and hit a man with it or throw it and hit him. and how many times has a woman slapped a man (yes that is assault) count those up compared 2 men & u will c
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
(cont)
and it should be easy to see why. apart from all the feminist 'empowerment' indoctrination. we have the fact that unlike men women have no incentive to behave. they dont have the indoctrination from childhood not to hit men, or the cops carting them to jail just cause the man said she hit him with no proof, or people on the street ready to jump her and beat her if she lays a hand on a man. women have nothing keeping them in line, yet they get more abuse?
HA, fool.
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
'If you have the ability, I would suggest doing a study of the abuse of men, towards women vs women towards men. Men have more testosterone...'
did you read anything i said? & that study has already been done (as ive said), they found women are more abusive (more likely to start a physical fights, throw things, him men with things, etc) testosterone evidently has nothing to do with it.
ps there should b questions asked. what if the person with the mark did it 2 them self
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
'i have never hit a man'
~ right....
'Most women I know, have never hit a man nor....'
~ yeah most....
'what is your point?'
~ right now my point is, just cause an your friends supposedly dont, doesnt mean the rest of western women are like you.
'no, the cops do not just "cart someone off to jail" with no proof'
~ u have any idea how stupid you look saying this. that is exactly what happens when i guy hits a girl or when she says he hit her, weather she has proof or not.
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
(cont)
'I've had to sit by and listen to a man beat on a woman and yell and scream at her for an hour....and called the cops, only to have them say "there are no bruises, we can't do a thing" and then leave.'
~if this story even is true, 1) he must be a pussy if he can hit ANYONE for an hour and not leave a mark 2) u sat there for an hour before you called the cops to help your friend 3) i guarantee u if u actually did call , they carted him off.
i saw through your shit
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
(cont)
'You don't know what you are talking about, sorry.'
~ you can tell yourself that all you want. i actually have proof to back up what im saying. and unlike you i dont need to lie and make up stories.
ps thank god im not your friend, your gonna sit ther and let me get beat for an hour before you call the cops. cops dont take an hour to get to a house unless its south east DC, and if you live there you probably dont have a computer or access to one.
u r an imbecile
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
everyone else minded their own business, and had their own problems, thats why they probably didnt call. and that doesnt change the facts of what i said, especially you waiting 1 hour before you called.
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
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SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago
@SuperScreamingEagle
gay ass internet terms aside me being 23 has nothing to do with anything. i can do research and see what other people who have also done research and shown evidence has done. im not incapable of doing that till im 50+ as u seem to think. so ill pretend i dont know why your bringing up my age.
(thats like me saying 1+1=2, and u saying u r 23yrs old, u dont know what u r talking about)
how about u not try to go off topic, and instead refute my claim since u say theyre wrong
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
This guy is the first pastor I've heard that speaks like he's a bible character. I got convicted just watching this. I've been guilty of fornication with my girlfriend, and I've been fighting to stay pure and not fall in that area anymore. I'm not angry at this guy at all. He's for real, and this rebuke is a real encouragement to me.
jimboo40 1 year ago
I love this man. He speaks the truth and it hurts.
Freddirector 1 year ago
Go Mark!
TheJakeNolen 1 year ago 2
What's up with this "Dude"?He tells everybody to shut up!!Just check a lot of his videos on youtube.He's nuts......but there is more to him than meets the eyes.Look him up,he's a Hypocrite Period!
clujborn 2 years ago
Amen!
JYDrummer12 2 years ago
I detest preachers. how do you expect people to not be hypocrites when you tell them to believe things by faith and not reason?
Staff7 2 years ago
@Staff7 But that faith should be able to transform a person, if not then we would say that person has no faith at all. Faith is not without reason but from experience, it is not blind.
glooer 1 year ago
So Mark Driscoll uses cursing & yelling at time 1:23 to make a false Holy Spirit conviction just so he can get more money by "passing the plate" at time 4:10?
Ya... that's leaven.
Matthew 16:6
And Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil: which some reaching after have been led astray from the faith, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
NobodySpecial85 2 years ago
@NobodySpecial85 mark isnt rich, he doesnt drive a nice car. he just has enough to support his family.
XboxLiveChamp 2 years ago
You go to his building, don't you?
NobodySpecial85 2 years ago
@NobodySpecial85 why does it matter?
XboxLiveChamp 2 years ago
Knew it!
It matters because your pastor is your idol. Come out of the institution, it'll only deceive you.
NobodySpecial85 2 years ago
@NobodySpecial85 i rarely go to mars hill my main church is new life church which is totally different.
XboxLiveChamp 2 years ago
Doesn't matter what building you go to, it's been done away with:
Act 17:24 The God that made the world and all things therein, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Going to a building for teaching is all old testament. They don't even teach you it's possible to stop sinning, do they?
The institutional church system is a system of the nicolaitans... which God abhors (Rev 2:6).
NobodySpecial85 2 years ago
@NobodySpecial85 all im saying is that mark driscoll doesnt have money like lets say for instance casey treat.
XboxLiveChamp 2 years ago
So why are you defending him?
NobodySpecial85 2 years ago
"Some of you guys are single but still having sex", so what.
It is the fundamental basic right of every consenting adult on this planet to have sex with whom they wish as long as it harms no one.
By all means use condoms or the pill, you dont want any unwanted babies.
Driscoll is totally wrong to condemn those who are single, are consenting adults and have sex, its their business, no person, religion or government has the right to criticise those who do.
roac7777 2 years ago
your still a little boy dude... sex with anyone...??? how dare you..
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
I did not say sex with anyone, you did.
Just for the record I do dare and have, but not with anyone, just the good looking girls.
roac7777 2 years ago
oh sorry so sex with good-looking girls...??? still your such a little boy who craves over things that temporarily satisfies a deadly appetite... besides, this preaching are to equip Christians... so if you aren't going to accept this convicting message, better screen yourself little kid...
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
You sound as though you have a problem. Is it jealousy or are you just a petty minded, self righteous prick with a complex.
roac7777 2 years ago
no, you're the one who had a problem, and don't run from what i','m saying... girls or should i say 'good-looking girls' are not a past-time to feed your sexual needs...
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
and if you really think you're a man enough, go get yourself a WIFE and make love to her instead of being single and defiling every beatiful creation of God, consuming their beauty and treating them like toys...!!! woman are to be respected like men and everone else, i do respect you but as far as the Holy Spirit is concerned, you are not respecting those good-looking woman....
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
they're not your playmates dude that you can use whenever your sexual appetite gets hungry, now go get a girl and marry her and LOVE her for the rest of your life or it'll be condemnation for you... and one thing more, i'm just a guy who is thankfully didn't get to experience what you are doing because God revealed to me how to live in Holiness and Righteousness that is also termed as SELF-DENIAL...
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
Right lets get the record straight. 1. I am married, I have not had sex with other women since being married.
2. The girls I had sex with when I was single, WANTED to have sex as much as I did.
3. Your last statement is total nonsense. You have never met God, no one has, you dont know him, no one does. But, now here is the rub, he does not exist.
roac7777 2 years ago
wow! well then, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, IN JESUS, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE THEN...????
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
Read my profile notes then you will see.
We are here through evolution by natural selection, not because some mythical god supposedly created us.
roac7777 2 years ago
well then, if we are created based on coincidendence, you can never see a human with two hands, a nose, two eyes... all of us would be created uneqally: some with two heads, wthout eyes, some with tail or fins all because of a mere coincidence... i'm sorry, theres nothing on your profile that attracts my attention...
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
Oh dear, I see you know nothing of evolution. I will send you a short explanation to your profile site.
Now you don't have to take my word for it, research it yourself, if you dare.
roac7777 2 years ago
iim goona tell you one more tine that there is a GOD, the one who draws your face even before you were created byu your parents but have given you the freedom to choose: to accept or reject His Love for you (john 3:16)...
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
You can tell me as many times as you like, you can also believe what you like, but don't tell or ask me to accept fraudulent mythical nonsense.
Now I like reading fantasy novels, but I prefer Lord of the Rings, more wizards and elves, but I know it's not true.
Don't quote scripture at me, because I don't believe scripture either, why.........because it is scripture.
roac7777 2 years ago
may you evolve in what you believe...
Genesis 1:1-3 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
I told you before, I dont read scripture, why because it is scripture
roac7777 2 years ago
Quote the Bible as much as you like, it means nothing, its just scripture.
It should read: After mankind evolved from apes and became homo sapiens mankind created God.
roac7777 2 years ago
It should read: After mankind evolved from apes and became homo sapiens mankind created ''God''.
sitill you mentined God somehow...
and its a HOLY SCRIPTURE, not a scripture...
explain everything to me, show scientific facts and every little evidence to disapprove God's existence... still i believe in this creation with the divine creator which is God.... besides, science is a mere study of God's creations...
guitarcrasher777 2 years ago
Fine, you believe what you wish, if that gives you comfort, Im just interested in what is true. Scientific evidence is the only truth.
roac7777 2 years ago
Do you realize by saying Scientific evidence is the only truth, you are making a philosophical statement that you are affirming as true? Its totally contradictory. There are lots of things science can't prove
JosefSaphari 1 year ago
I stick by my original statement, you are incorrect.
There are still things that science cannot explain, however scientists are continually finding things out. Look how far we have got in the last 150 years, the progress is truly amazing.
You are probably an atheist of Zeus, Thor and unicorns but you cannot disprove their existence because they are supernatural. My disbelief in your god is the same as my disbelief in Zeus, Thor and unicorns.
roac7777 1 year ago
@roac7777 But why do brilliant scientists come to Christ then? You tell me that.
glooer 1 year ago
@glooer That is an inaccurate statement in that most scientists are atheists. The few who do believe in a religion have the same reasons as all believers, they are deluded. The logical side of their thinking has abandoned them.
roac7777 1 year ago
What many men/boys don't understand is just how strongly physical aggression really impacts women. Even just one episode of sexual attention from a pig is enough to scar us for life, and I am not exaggerating. The most attractive sort of man is completely secure and treats me better than I treat myself. Don't be those men. Please... Please don't be like that... You have no idea how horrible it is.
beebaytah 2 years ago
@beebaytah I know a woman who will never marry because of a painfull college experience.I'm trying to help her but she built up a block to marriage.She wants a family but her fear of men is so strong that she no longer believes she will marry.I think men hope women 'get over it' but my guess is they won't.
cubicaljane3 1 year ago
@beebaytah
tell that to the men that get assaulted by women and no one comes to the mans aid, tackles and beats the shit out of the woman , and tells her 'dont hit men'. and thats not even including the cops who are supposed to be unbiased and protect everyone. i wonder how much life scarring comes from that
and yes a slap is assault, which most if not all women are guilty of a least 20 times in their life
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
What a hard case.
ImpSD42 2 years ago
Nice. A lesson that needs to be learned at an early age. Biblical manhood is not taught nearly as passionately nor as often as it should be..
Gilderhousen 2 years ago 2
A great example of why I love Driscoll's preaching style. I for one get moved when a preacher is so impassioned. I would also show this video to the women out there that think Driscoll is a woman-hater.
dmelloy82 2 years ago 2
erhh..WOW.Now that's a speech.Suit those kind of men right.God Bless.
StingDrift 2 years ago 3
AWESOME!
woodreggie 2 years ago 3
all my exs need to meet mark driscoll
Pandalady366 2 years ago
you really need to watch the whole sermon to understand this part, more than likely he is not talking to Christians but to those who are lying to themselves thinking they are Christians misusing God's daughters
sdanderson21 2 years ago
why do they always have to repeat the same thing over again? I'm not a hater. I'm just a teen girl trying to see why preachers are good and bad.
cookiex11 2 years ago
I'm guessing the negative comments and thumbs down are from the "men" he is talking about.
I cannot imagine any abused woman thinking his comments are too strong.
You think this is strong, wait until Judgment Day!
houseguy4 2 years ago 3
Powerful!
ohiodarlin 2 years ago
A good Christian Preacher tells the truth. Pastor Mark tells exactly what is in the Bible. God HATES men who treat their wives in 1 Peter 3:7 says"husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing HONOR to the woman as the weaker vessel". I can maybe understand that this may concern you if you are not familiar with Driscoll or his church. You should really watch the entire sermon and this will make more sense.Driscoll taken out of context can make it seem weird for some people.
jksjnc 2 years ago 15
Amen
nokeo08 2 years ago
dude. where were you all along? THANKYOU jksjnc for defending the faith!! You hit it man.. you are right.. CONTEXT.
freedomfighter213 2 years ago
@jksjnc "A good Christian preacher" yeah sure, Driscoll is a typical self righteous religious bigot. How dare he tell young people it is wrong to have sex out of marriage. It is the right of every consenting adult to have sex with whom they wish as long as know hurt is committed. Of course its wise to wear condoms for partners who one has not been acquainted for a long period of time.
roac7777 1 year ago
@jksjnc
i dont think the bible had honor in all caps.
1 there are a select few things that god hates man for and thats not one of them
2 its funny how people quote the bible when it favors them as you did here. but the moment the bible says something you dont want. 'oh its a sexist fairy tale myth written by men, etc'
now then what does the bible say about women who hit men, or dont submit to their husbands, and are on this feminist, strong independent (insert race here) woman, bullshit. huh?
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
on the contrary this is an example of a great christian preacher. He will lead his flock whether its easy or not, whether they want to be told the truth or not, whether its fun or not.
nokeo08 2 years ago 2
his theology is straight and he won't back down just because people don't like what he is saying. If he sees it in the Bible he will unashamedly preach it. And either way its not about mark at all. I didn't upload the video because it was mark driscoll. I uploaded it because the message was good, more people need to hear this truth, and to try and break peoples stereotyped views of "christians". We are not all like Osteen and the like...
nokeo08 2 years ago
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very disturbing ...this is not a good example of a Christian preacher.
daleyboy77 2 years ago
Disturbing? Because he preaches from the Bible?
Fleetwoods 2 years ago
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His anger is what I found disturbing ...This man needs to step down.
daleyboy77 2 years ago
His anger is what is called "righteous anger" and is, in fact, the same anger that God Himself has when His children are sinning.
Fleetwoods 2 years ago 5
His message is completely true. His method is probably...different. But to those who are "disturbed" by him...for every 1 preacher who preaches like this, there are 50 others who do it the "nice way". So it's not the end of the world.
dreamissbehaved 2 years ago 5
And I get a "thumbsdown" for saying that...
Anyway, you go Mark Driscoll. Keep telling the truth.
dreamissbehaved 2 years ago 3
You are right on both accounts.
This is very disturbing . . . it was meant to be. If you are not disturbed by sin then you don't understand how awful it is nor to you really understand God's righteous wrath.
Further, this is not good Christian preaching, this is great Christian preaching. As a preacher myself, I am inspired to tell the truth plainly, while still expressing love (as Driscoll did).
littlemas2 2 years ago 7
Oh wow. I can honestly say I have never seen anything like this before. This is amazing and really powerful!
chiodoce 2 years ago 3
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Must have a Church full of hypocrites.
hargisP2 2 years ago
We can all be characterized as hypocrites instead, Christ says we are sinners. All of us! Nobody's perfect. The question is, will we humble ourselves before him and repent?
nosral08 2 years ago
hargis,
all Churches have hypocrites. No one is perfect and the is no perfect Church. Going along with what nosral says, we are all Sinners but Christ loves us all. Christ receives sinners. Now you tell me that's not love.
cptdubber 2 years ago
go mark!
ducksandquackers 2 years ago 3
Praise the Lord!
calebandsol 2 years ago
I like that he can say it how it is and not be worried about what people will think.
nokeo08 2 years ago
THAT is how to put the blade on preaching. Alot of stuff where Bro Mark goes too far, but he hit it spot on there!
mumpty 2 years ago
He is fun when he gets all riled up.
nokeo08 2 years ago
Holy Cow he is right and iv never heard him get that P.O.ed before
schutteb 2 years ago