I totally agree with your thoughts on Piquet Jr. He has his own brain, he was driving the car, I don't care what Flavio did or did not say to him. He made the last decision, he crashed the car, he caused a risk to other driver and spectators, he should be punished.
"That is not a driver losing his power. That is just a driver being weak, young and a total idiot. And proving that he should never have been part of Formula 1. It is very simple."
What I understand is it was Nelson's idea so to me he is as much to blame (if not more) than anyone. Flavio's banning is right though I could accept a 10 year ban. Pat's 5 years is right too seeing he admitted to being involved. The FIA aren't in the best situation having to let Nelson go though. The one good thing is that I doubt any team (or sponsor) would want a slow, cheating, dangerous, politically vindictive driver drive for them. So the law of the jungle should take care of Nelson.
What do you guys think would happen if Renault pulled from F1?, how many people would lose their jobs because of Nelson trying to settle some score with Flavio?
FIA do make good decisions. The 100 million punished the team the McLaren right way for spying, heavy punishment on the development side, where they cheated..
This is pretty good punishment all round. Flavio should not have allowed this to happen. Even if it was Piquet's idea.
It could have been his idea. He qualified badly, could have come up with the idea. Either way, they are all in the wrong.
He got off lightly if it was his idea.. who will ever know.
driver line up is easy at the top to predict but the other teams ther is so much open now. and so many GP2 guys wanting to class up, many old F1 Vets wanting back in and so many punters that need to retire! its crazy but i thing Renault will get Kubica and Glock! If williams gets a great engine then Kov and Hulk should be in the points. I fear for Heidfeld as a seat might be lost unless Merc picks him up to Force India.
im sure mark webber wouldve told briatore to fuck off as would any f1 driver thats already respected but piquet is an ambitious newcomer to a race seat and given his performance to date he did as he was told by the most powerful man in the team. im not surprised he complied but hes still a bitch. you cant control a crash. anything can happen (ayrton senna had a piece of suspension pierce his head in a crash that he couldve easily survived otherwise). he put lives at risk including his own.
Again i agree with you. i doubt we will see PK again in F1. I really hope they call that corner at singapore "PK's corner" like Martin Brundle insisted in calling it.
F1 is so incestuous. This situation is like knocking up your sister, & then being surprised that the baby has a foot growing out of it's forehead. F1 was, is, & will always be a messy place to be. Find the baby three matching shoes, & lets get on with racing !
4:50 when you mention Mark Webber saying Fuck you no i wont crash.
Your so right and like you say its your not saying this because your Australian its a FACT and what it comes down to is your core values as a person. At one side you have Webber who is a top fella and Piquet who is to be frank a little bull shit.
Will you guys do a ps3 preview of suzuka as it has not been on the calander sicnce your podcast has been out.
As for flav, he Fucked up and he payed the price. I always thought that f1 was not his highest priority and it was money first. At the end of the day he was only a pubtalker!
Flavio might've said "Right, you crash your car or you're out!", and for a guy (Nelson) who loves F1 & Renault he might have complied 'cos he wants to stay in the team. And when you're 22 (or there about) it's more than tough to stand up against someone that just about OWNS the team. Nevertheless, it was the wrong decision, all around. It happened.
Very intresting points guys, What max was saying towards the end that he a young man with his own mind. Get on this one, If I did something wrong when I was younger and I said, " But so and so made me do it mam " Almost everyone has been in this situation and my mother would always say. " If he told you to jump of a cliff would you ? " No you fuckin wouldnt simple as that. Im sorry guys I just keep getting angry whenever he is mentioned. All I say is " Little Fuckin Girl "
At the end of the day, its the pride and intergity of a sportman which matters the most. We found out about singapore 08 how about the others which we have not found out.
I agree with the last points, it would also of made some people think, well, maybe he did have a point when he was claiming that alonsos car had the better parts. Or at the very least, did get the preferential treatment.
I have read on the ITV-f1 web site that Symonds has made claims that it was Piquet who came up with the idea in the first place, up till now the stories coming out have painted a picture of Piquet cornered by the bully Flavio and "handing over his lunch money" by crashing the car. Piquet should not have gotten off free but I think the court of world opinion will judge him harshly and I dont expect to see him in a race seat anytime soon. great video guys and I agree webber would not have done it.
The renaulty penalty scandal !!
Byootox 1 year ago
i think flavio punishment was harsh u don't get life for muder
pm7movies 2 years ago
I totally agree with your thoughts on Piquet Jr. He has his own brain, he was driving the car, I don't care what Flavio did or did not say to him. He made the last decision, he crashed the car, he caused a risk to other driver and spectators, he should be punished.
Ferrariman601 2 years ago
Quote from Villeneuve:
"That is not a driver losing his power. That is just a driver being weak, young and a total idiot. And proving that he should never have been part of Formula 1. It is very simple."
Source is Autosport.
I totally agree with this. How about you guys?
lunchsalamimeat 2 years ago
What I understand is it was Nelson's idea so to me he is as much to blame (if not more) than anyone. Flavio's banning is right though I could accept a 10 year ban. Pat's 5 years is right too seeing he admitted to being involved. The FIA aren't in the best situation having to let Nelson go though. The one good thing is that I doubt any team (or sponsor) would want a slow, cheating, dangerous, politically vindictive driver drive for them. So the law of the jungle should take care of Nelson.
beeDUB75 2 years ago
valid points mate, especially your description of Piquet Jr! - Max
F1Podcast 2 years ago
What do you guys think would happen if Renault pulled from F1?, how many people would lose their jobs because of Nelson trying to settle some score with Flavio?
detergent99 2 years ago
Prolly about 700 people! - Max
F1Podcast 2 years ago
Noone would employ Piquet
If they did, they would never be taken seriously again in the paddock
So he got his penalty. The whole world knows how desperate he was. And that he was NOT world champion material, not in F1. Never.
TheRealJakeKool 2 years ago
haha loving the choice of music, crazy indeed.
Have to say think the penalty was about right, those responsible were punished without destroying a great F1 team.
ACorlett21 2 years ago
FIA do make good decisions. The 100 million punished the team the McLaren right way for spying, heavy punishment on the development side, where they cheated..
This is pretty good punishment all round. Flavio should not have allowed this to happen. Even if it was Piquet's idea.
It could have been his idea. He qualified badly, could have come up with the idea. Either way, they are all in the wrong.
He got off lightly if it was his idea.. who will ever know.
TheRealJakeKool 2 years ago
Mark Webber was not a rich kid weakling. He had a full chest of hair in Minardi in his first season! Mark was drinking VB at Kindergarden!
barneylovesbeagle 2 years ago
You got it Barnsworth! Well said young man. - Max
F1Podcast 2 years ago
Piquet Corner! They should give the oher 2 a corner too.
barneylovesbeagle 2 years ago
i want to know your thoughts about the 2010 driver lineup in light of the new developments ? eg toyota
yulocke 2 years ago
driver line up is easy at the top to predict but the other teams ther is so much open now. and so many GP2 guys wanting to class up, many old F1 Vets wanting back in and so many punters that need to retire! its crazy but i thing Renault will get Kubica and Glock! If williams gets a great engine then Kov and Hulk should be in the points. I fear for Heidfeld as a seat might be lost unless Merc picks him up to Force India.
barneylovesbeagle 2 years ago
im sure mark webber wouldve told briatore to fuck off as would any f1 driver thats already respected but piquet is an ambitious newcomer to a race seat and given his performance to date he did as he was told by the most powerful man in the team. im not surprised he complied but hes still a bitch. you cant control a crash. anything can happen (ayrton senna had a piece of suspension pierce his head in a crash that he couldve easily survived otherwise). he put lives at risk including his own.
didickcheeseburger 2 years ago
Again i agree with you. i doubt we will see PK again in F1. I really hope they call that corner at singapore "PK's corner" like Martin Brundle insisted in calling it.
At 4:22 Max kinda looks a little crazy.
jeevesosiris 2 years ago
It's 'cause I AM a little crazy mate. Oh, and I was fairly drunk! - Max
F1Podcast 2 years ago
It looks like lots of the amber necter has been flowing before you recorded this one. lol
SirKnobofCheese 2 years ago
P.S loving the camp hand gestures
SirKnobofCheese 2 years ago
Pt. 2 after Max...?...sobers up...? LMAO....
jerryjoe88 2 years ago
Geez I talked a lotta shit. Yeah I'd had a few alright :) - Max
F1Podcast 2 years ago
F1 is so incestuous. This situation is like knocking up your sister, & then being surprised that the baby has a foot growing out of it's forehead. F1 was, is, & will always be a messy place to be. Find the baby three matching shoes, & lets get on with racing !
jerryjoe88 2 years ago
Piquet is a piece of shit, I don't know why anyone would go near him, not only is he a cheat he is a squealer.
f1fan65 2 years ago
4:50 when you mention Mark Webber saying Fuck you no i wont crash.
Your so right and like you say its your not saying this because your Australian its a FACT and what it comes down to is your core values as a person. At one side you have Webber who is a top fella and Piquet who is to be frank a little bull shit.
ayrtonsenna1960 2 years ago
We do know it was not Briatore's idea, it was either Nelson himself or Symonds. I am outraged that Piruet walks free.
bartool 2 years ago
Will you guys do a ps3 preview of suzuka as it has not been on the calander sicnce your podcast has been out.
As for flav, he Fucked up and he payed the price. I always thought that f1 was not his highest priority and it was money first. At the end of the day he was only a pubtalker!
lendrew1 2 years ago
Flavio might've said "Right, you crash your car or you're out!", and for a guy (Nelson) who loves F1 & Renault he might have complied 'cos he wants to stay in the team. And when you're 22 (or there about) it's more than tough to stand up against someone that just about OWNS the team. Nevertheless, it was the wrong decision, all around. It happened.
StevenJeNova 2 years ago
Very intresting points guys, What max was saying towards the end that he a young man with his own mind. Get on this one, If I did something wrong when I was younger and I said, " But so and so made me do it mam " Almost everyone has been in this situation and my mother would always say. " If he told you to jump of a cliff would you ? " No you fuckin wouldnt simple as that. Im sorry guys I just keep getting angry whenever he is mentioned. All I say is " Little Fuckin Girl "
ukogmickey 2 years ago
At the end of the day, its the pride and intergity of a sportman which matters the most. We found out about singapore 08 how about the others which we have not found out.
dryden28 2 years ago
I agree with the last points, it would also of made some people think, well, maybe he did have a point when he was claiming that alonsos car had the better parts. Or at the very least, did get the preferential treatment.
scotsocool 2 years ago
no driver with experience woulda done it
FALLOUTBOYrock2345 2 years ago
I have read on the ITV-f1 web site that Symonds has made claims that it was Piquet who came up with the idea in the first place, up till now the stories coming out have painted a picture of Piquet cornered by the bully Flavio and "handing over his lunch money" by crashing the car. Piquet should not have gotten off free but I think the court of world opinion will judge him harshly and I dont expect to see him in a race seat anytime soon. great video guys and I agree webber would not have done it.
kingjimsixsix5 2 years ago
Nelson Junior might just get back into F1 - but only if Nelson Senior pays a team to hire him.
He does have potential afterall (nearly beating Lewis to GP2 crown).
konor23 2 years ago