I can't believe people are STILL arguing over "which is better," Cinematic Titanic or RiffTrax. Maybe it's a product of A/B 'thought process' here in the US -- along the same lines of why there are only two main political parties..?
I'm personally grateful and overjoyed that the concept & spirit of riffing cheesy movies hasn't fallen by the wayside. Joel and The Brains: thank you for inspiring at least a few of us to follow our creative dreams. Oh, and to laugh about love. Again. :)
IMO the writing of Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic are both great, but the RT guys are better performers with better voices. And CT has too many people and is too complicated. After watching Rifftrax first I can't watch this at all.
Rifftrax is a lot more accessible than this. I can just go there, flip through my DVD collection to find a suitable title, and download the track for a couple of U.S dollars.
This unfortunately lacks the same punch as MST3K, which is surprising since there's 5 cast members though I never cared for Weinstein because he reminds me of the nerdy idiot from the Red Green Show. Pehl is alright but makes it obvious that she's reading lines. Other than the fact that it needs better/more jokes and would look better with the old theater layout, the rest of the show is fine.
It's so good to see Joel doing his thing again, but in my opinion, without Mike as a writer, Cinematic Titanic just can't beat Rifftrax. My only other gripe is that there's too many riffers on the screen at once, which makes the development of each person's unique style take much longer.
@NicosProductions - i'd agree with that assessment. what i do enjoy about CT is that they continue to riff b-movies. RT has better jokes IMO though. though i died at the "they ransacked my apartment!" hahaha
@darthaardvark Red herring, man. I never said certain jokes were better than others, I said that the quality of Mike's jokes is better as a whole. This change in quality is apparent, especially on seasons 6 and on. Also, Mike was the head writer for a while, even while Joel was host. Regarding individual styles; I never said that the CT cast doesn't have them, I simply stated that with five riffers on screen at once, their styles will take longer to develop.
Now, with this MST3k "revival", it´s Joel´s change to do "Daniel der Zauberer", the worst film of all times!! And let´s not forget "City of the living dead" - the stupidest horror-film ever...
PS:I´ve seen "Oozing skull", but the skull isn´t oozing at all! What the...
Considering they've all worked together for MST3K 20th anniversary stuff lately, I don't think we have to worry about their being a "feud" between different MST3K folks.
I just love that we have TWO options available now, and that they're unique from one another.
Clearly they get on, what with Mary Jo featuring on Rifftrax...
One can only hope that the whole gang will get back together, if only for one last time.
I'd love to see Josh and Bill as Servo and Crow, or Gypsy and Magic Voice (Mary Jo) riffing a short film. And of course, Joel and Mike riffing together, but that's obvious. =3
On the MST3K I always leaned more towards the Mike era than Joel, but I think Cinematic Titanic might just be a little better than Rifftrax. It might be because I missed the silhouettes, or just TV's Frank.
I've only seen clips from rifftrax and it's very funny, but I'm just not interested in watching most of the movies they riff. I'm more interested in checking out the Film Crew because they seem to make fun of the old, crappy films like MST3K and Cinematic Titanic.
Mike is doing Rifftrax with Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett. Otherwise they might have appeared. It's like the MST3K group are competitors now or something
Yes it's very strange. Methinks the onlyone who has done rifftrax and cinematic titanic is Mary Jo. I was looking at the torrents and they (titanics) had notes about spamming and 'putting a stop too' rifftrax. very very strange. just like Joel vs. Mike back in the early 90's
the format and set up of the sihouettes do not work. neither does having that woman who played pearl contributing voice work. it was better when simpler with 3 voices rather than 5.
Cinematic Titanic is great and all but I can't watch it without hearing a voice in my head constantly repeating "I wish this was MST3K. Dear God, I wish this was MST3K!"
Hmmm I dont think this really works well. The setting and all. I dont like the way it looks and I also think there is way to many people riffing on a movie. 3 is enuff.
Heh, The funny thing (besides this clip) is I can forsee a division in the MST3K fan base, half for the Cinematic Titanic, the rest for Rifftracks. In my opinion, I will contiune to love both along with MST3K ^_^
More like there's a rift among Mike and Joel (mostly Joel kicking himself for getting out of it before). I think us fans will continue to lovingly support each side.
Copywrite issues - the theater seating is a MST trademark. Also a lot of the cast members had a problem with how MST changed when it went to the SciFi channel (e.g. scripted jokes instead of off the cuff among other issues which contributed to why so many left in the first place) so they deliberately wanted this to have a different feel.
I just bought the movie. It's so awesome. I can't wait to get the others. I was amazed how fast the DVD burned. I guess because it's already in DVD format. You don't have to convert anything. What I really liked was how EZ something, whatever that company is called, has a built in DVD burning program. It burns the whole movie in under 10 minutes. I was like, no way it's finished. But it was and worked perfect. Awesome stuff
I definitely loved this! The only person whose lines I would consider slightly weak (but still funny) were Mary Jo's... but that could have just been un-luck of the draw. Trace and Joel really shine through (as expected), but Josh and Frank are hilarious too!
Does anyone know if there is bad blood between Joel Hodgson and Mike Nelson? If not, those two need to get together again, as well as the whole crew. Why not? We need this type of comedy now more then ever. It would be heaven on earth!
@OxbowisaMstie: Er, Mike, Kevin, and BILL are doing Film Crew. Well, actually, they haven't done that in a while, they've been focusing more on RiffTrax. Paul (as in Paul Chaplin) WAS working with Jim Mallon on some stuff at the new official MST3K site, but it looks like they're renovating that site right now.
And now you know, and knowing is half the battle. :)
Dammit, can't the whole gang just pool their money and buy back the rights to MST3k and start that up again, in DVD form? Rifftrax and this feel like cold, stale leftovers. I miss the bots and the S.O.L.
Oh,GAWD---are we now going to turn the coexistance of Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic into some New York vs. New Jersey/Kirk vs. Picard/potatos vs. stuffing/shirts vs. skins/butter-side-up vs. butter-side-down ultimately pointless RIVALRY??!!??
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This is just so annoying. It's like trying to watch a film with a couple of smart arses sat behind. Bad films are enjoyable on their own, without unfunny comments for the hard of thinking.
Then we agree. I commented on watching these movies "on their own" (ie: without additional audio commentary on the soundtrack), not "on your own". So it's always preferable to watch them with friends.
INDEED. And when (-sniff-) you have no friends and I'n not mentioning any names that rhyme with CallsHacBlammer - It's fun to have a couple on the DVD with you.
lol, my sister said the same thing when i forced her to watch Boggy Creek II (MST3K)
"well, they can't all be winners.."
and bad movies are definitely better with the commentary ON, MST3K is the best, followed by CinTit, and film crew isnt really that good at all but... its still 3rd.
unless you do have some friends to watch it with, baked like you said, and those friends are good at riffing movies in real time, then commentary is OFF. esp. this way you can riff "good" movies
Maybe (just maybe) this person is being ironic. To wit, notice this excerpt from the "history of the show" page 3 at mst3kinfo website (1988 KTMA episode one): "The station received some complaints from people who did not catch on to the concept and were irritated by the 'immature junior high kids' (as one caller dubbed them) talking over the movie." But it is nice to see some different opinions, whatever I personally think.
Ah, I don't think I ever saw the first season. :P No wonder I didn't recognize the 5th guy as Trace, he doesn't say anything till the last few seconds. *l*
I still can't believe they got Josh Weinstein in for this. Not that I was ever a big fan, but with Rifftrax this really makes it like 1990 MST vs. 1999 MST...but then you have Mary Jo, which is kind of strange. Still, Joel fans and Mike fans, its time to fight to the death!
well, great! now were gonna have a whole new round of the "joel, mike, joel, mike" thing. look folks; could we maybe just bypass it this time and get strait to what's really important: "josh, kevin, josh, kevin"!?
really though, thanks for doing this guys & gal, i'm looking forward to basking in it's snarky glory.
I have checked them out, but the original formula is gone, so you can either accept the new incarnation for what it is or move on and not bitch in the comments;P
I nearly busted my gut watching the rifftrax version of Star Trek Generations and Battle Field Earth. Maybe it's not exactly the same, but hell if it isn't funny.
I couldn't sit through all of Battle Field Earth until I found the riff trax, I've always slightly wondered how it ended.
The Film Crew is basicly MST3k ver. 2. It's the same formula without the silhouettes. Cinimatic Titanic, while I haven't seen the episode yet (still searching for it to buy or download or stream, please let me know if you know) it seems Cinimatic Titanic is MST3k vol. 3. Old cheesy movies riffed on by the old crew with silhouettes. I'm looking forward to this greatly!
I'm just curious if there's some rift between those involved in this and those on the other side of things. Namely Mike,
Bill, and of course the great Kevin Murphy. I'd love to see those guys involved in some capacity. Rifftrax is good, but this looks way more promising.
I think both project have their upsides. With Nelson's, he can riff on any movie and not have to worry about copyrights. But this brings back fond memories of MST3K.
They are currently involved in to projects, one being rifftrax, another being "the film crew" were you can once again buy full dvds with there commentary, however sadly there are no silhouettes.
Glad to see theres life after mst3k for everyone. and I hope I help out a bit
Gang, this whole thing is REALLY, REALLY GOOD! From this clip I thought the silhouettes would be intrusive, but they make the movie seem BIGGER--that gap in the middle makes it feel more full. It's like they are comedic scientists (which they are), analyzing this foreign visualization, all bouncing riffs off each other. The movie seems bigger, and the riffs ARE bigger. Killer comeback, Joel!
Not only do you bring us more long awaited movie riffing, but you also throw in boom lifts and large scale shadow props on a soundstage full of funny, talented people?! This is more than ever could have been dreamed of in 1999.
Joel, Buddy, your particular brand of thoughtful yet totally oddball humor has been sorely lacking for too long. I am so glad you are still in the business of entertainment!
I know what you mean, this is missing something. Maybe it's the writing, if you remember Mike was the head writter and he's absent. I don't know, it also seems like Joel started this back up only to make money (All the people on here, accept for Mary Jo, left MST3K to pursue their own thing) and, as I've heard, Joel didn't even like hosting. Personally, I just miss the theater set up! Simple, yet functional (But this is my same gripe with RiffTrax :P)
Look it's just different and if people expect the same MST3K they will be disappointed. It looks good to me although I will miss the outer space angle but I think the commentary will be just as witty. You know it's the same principle, same people, but not exactly the same show and that's why for fans like us it will take some getting used to because we expect Crow T. Robot and all of that.
You people who keep posting 'Mike was head writer' don't know what a head writer is, and don't know the history of MST3K. The head writer doesn't write all the jokes. It's mainly clerical. They write down and organize all the jokes that are made. And MST3K was funny before Mike joined. Mike is great and all, but too many of you only see him as important b/c you came in after Joel left. He created the show and is the brains and heart behind it.
He only started hosting at Joel left, he was still writing before that (And no one said they didn't like Joel, I think he's hilarious). That doesn't matter, though, if someone feels there's something missing then there is something missing, you can't argue over someones feelings. That's what's beautiful about comedy, it's not singular. We all have our own ideas of what's funny, not one truth.
I'd be on board with ordering the DVD. I'd love to talk about you guys in a future episode of my show, and use clips from this trailer. I'll make sure to get the permission I need before doing so. Great job, guys. It's nice to see you all together again. Take care.
As far as price, let's see. Drop 20+ to go on a date to a film where you CAN'T talk over it; or pay 15 and own the film where talking is encouraged.
I'm for the latter.
And as far as a rift or problems between Mike and Joel, I think its just a case of Mike remained in the Midwest, along with Kevin; whereas the CT crew all have been involved with Hollywood as writers/directors/producers of television. I think its nothing more than just locale.
I'm waiting to see what the price for the UK release will be like before I add my thoughts... I'm looking forward to it though, I just really want to hear what Joel and Mike think of each other's stuf right now...
True Misties have been waiting for many years for a real movie riffing system. Rifftrax is great, but I truly miss the silhouettes, and real production values. How can you say 15$ is too much, thats crazy, thats about 4 gallons of gas. Rhino home video was charging around 25$ at one point for one episode of MST3k This is the only reunion we will get to see, so for all you haters just don't watch it or buy it. I for one will support in any way
True Misties? You're forgetting that Mike Nelson was the head writer on the show. I'm not bagging on CT, since I have yet to see the first episode, but I think they're missing a key element and that element is Mike Nelson.
(I think that the "real movie riffing system" was referring to the silhouettes?) If you want some Mike, go check out Rifftrax. Personally, I don't think that CT is going to suffer at all from the lack of Mike.
As much as I love the old MST3K days, this TITANIC project simply costs too much. A burned DVD in a sleeve for $15? Come on. I would consider paying $10-$12 for a pressed DVD in a substantial case with extras. I buy every PIXAR movie for about that much. I won't be buying this project at this price.
I predict piracy will damage sales to the point at which Joel and company will throw in the towel early.
I can't believe people are STILL arguing over "which is better," Cinematic Titanic or RiffTrax. Maybe it's a product of A/B 'thought process' here in the US -- along the same lines of why there are only two main political parties..?
I'm personally grateful and overjoyed that the concept & spirit of riffing cheesy movies hasn't fallen by the wayside. Joel and The Brains: thank you for inspiring at least a few of us to follow our creative dreams. Oh, and to laugh about love. Again. :)
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IMO the writing of Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic are both great, but the RT guys are better performers with better voices. And CT has too many people and is too complicated. After watching Rifftrax first I can't watch this at all.
AudioZan 5 months ago
It's like the remake of Whose Line (Drew Carey's Improvaganza)
The original is usually better....
web2student 6 months ago
Rifftrax is a lot more accessible than this. I can just go there, flip through my DVD collection to find a suitable title, and download the track for a couple of U.S dollars.
ColonelHoraldo 10 months ago
13 people's cars really milked their death scenes.
ilikethecoke 1 year ago
This unfortunately lacks the same punch as MST3K, which is surprising since there's 5 cast members though I never cared for Weinstein because he reminds me of the nerdy idiot from the Red Green Show. Pehl is alright but makes it obvious that she's reading lines. Other than the fact that it needs better/more jokes and would look better with the old theater layout, the rest of the show is fine.
Snapscape 1 year ago
It's so good to see Joel doing his thing again, but in my opinion, without Mike as a writer, Cinematic Titanic just can't beat Rifftrax. My only other gripe is that there's too many riffers on the screen at once, which makes the development of each person's unique style take much longer.
NicosProductions 1 year ago 4
@NicosProductions - i'd agree with that assessment. what i do enjoy about CT is that they continue to riff b-movies. RT has better jokes IMO though. though i died at the "they ransacked my apartment!" hahaha
jaxjagsman 1 year ago
@NicosProductions agreed, but it kind of shows you their own individual styles, and pick out what jokes who wrote on MST3K
darthaardvark 11 months ago
@darthaardvark Red herring, man. I never said certain jokes were better than others, I said that the quality of Mike's jokes is better as a whole. This change in quality is apparent, especially on seasons 6 and on. Also, Mike was the head writer for a while, even while Joel was host. Regarding individual styles; I never said that the CT cast doesn't have them, I simply stated that with five riffers on screen at once, their styles will take longer to develop.
NicosProductions 11 months ago
I love both endeavours of mike a joel, but it seems rifftrax is more economically viable.
If only cinematic titanic had silhouettes like the theatre seats in mst, I'd watch it 24/7.
AtheismandSkepticism 1 year ago
Saw the gang perform this live at the Summer Festival in Ann Arbor. It was hilarious, though surprisingly bloody!
Stigmatainmypants 1 year ago
I have to see the whole thing, if I can last that long before passing out from laughing.
AndrewNeilFalconer 1 year ago
I saw them LIVE:)
Bristol92 2 years ago 3
Silhouettes and bad B-movies, how I've missed this format. Thank you for bringing it back! It was greatly missed.
AtomicSpike 2 years ago 3
well what do you know? skant detector really works
ste309w 2 years ago
"if you could see the look on whats left of your face..." ... thats fuckin priceless.
MaxamillionGat 2 years ago
"They ransacked my apartment!!"
That line nearly gave me a hernia.
urizen123 2 years ago 3
Now, with this MST3k "revival", it´s Joel´s change to do "Daniel der Zauberer", the worst film of all times!! And let´s not forget "City of the living dead" - the stupidest horror-film ever...
PS:I´ve seen "Oozing skull", but the skull isn´t oozing at all! What the...
YoureAtTheWongPlace 2 years ago
@YoureAtTheWongPlace I'll have to disagree with your City of the Living Dead statement.
Any film with a gut-puking scene is most certainly NOT stupid, my friend!
nobodywilltink 1 year ago
--- what good are gore scenes embedded in a Stevie Wonder cutting ;o)
Streamingofme 1 year ago 4
It's weird how they are seated but still funny although not as funny as the theater
porkymania90 2 years ago
"Oh good! They brought stiffy-pop!" XD
SelilaBlue68 2 years ago
Considering they've all worked together for MST3K 20th anniversary stuff lately, I don't think we have to worry about their being a "feud" between different MST3K folks.
I just love that we have TWO options available now, and that they're unique from one another.
jmn327 2 years ago 32
Clearly they get on, what with Mary Jo featuring on Rifftrax...
One can only hope that the whole gang will get back together, if only for one last time.
I'd love to see Josh and Bill as Servo and Crow, or Gypsy and Magic Voice (Mary Jo) riffing a short film. And of course, Joel and Mike riffing together, but that's obvious. =3
Gomess 2 years ago 5
On the MST3K I always leaned more towards the Mike era than Joel, but I think Cinematic Titanic might just be a little better than Rifftrax. It might be because I missed the silhouettes, or just TV's Frank.
Bloolooloo 2 years ago 7
I've only seen clips from rifftrax and it's very funny, but I'm just not interested in watching most of the movies they riff. I'm more interested in checking out the Film Crew because they seem to make fun of the old, crappy films like MST3K and Cinematic Titanic.
mfiorell 2 years ago 4
Awesome!
CincinnatusSPQR 2 years ago
I like the cool, sixties spy look to the new show - very new millenium.
lavverlylad 2 years ago
i dont understand why you guys cant just do the bots over again.
cj397 2 years ago
Yeah, I loved the bots!
crazypants88 2 years ago
Skank detector works *snort*
Have to say I miss the bots, but I'm so glad to see Joel and the old gang back!
Nicolletta13 3 years ago
OH wow. Its like MST3K reborn.
But without Kevin Murphy (Servo). Shoot. For that matter, Mike Nelson would be good in this, too.
And to be honest... I really don't care much for Mary Jo Pehl's voice.
Awesome to see TVs Frank back! And Dr. Erhardt! Together!
1andy2 3 years ago
Mike is doing Rifftrax with Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett. Otherwise they might have appeared. It's like the MST3K group are competitors now or something
Zando24 2 years ago 4
Yes it's very strange. Methinks the onlyone who has done rifftrax and cinematic titanic is Mary Jo. I was looking at the torrents and they (titanics) had notes about spamming and 'putting a stop too' rifftrax. very very strange. just like Joel vs. Mike back in the early 90's
LordThree 2 years ago
wonder why they can't just get the band back together...
Zando24 2 years ago 4
the format and set up of the sihouettes do not work. neither does having that woman who played pearl contributing voice work. it was better when simpler with 3 voices rather than 5.
illuminatioracle 3 years ago
I love you guys. That's really all that I need to say :)
zstardust838 3 years ago
Couldn't they just sit in movie seats?
fflybz 3 years ago
Cinematic Titanic is great and all but I can't watch it without hearing a voice in my head constantly repeating "I wish this was MST3K. Dear God, I wish this was MST3K!"
VlsraWratS 3 years ago 27
@VlsraWratS Me too!
Underdog3210 1 year ago
@VlsraWratS You're so right...Joel and the 'Bots. Turn your lights down (where applicable). Cue music. "In the not too distant future...!"
BrooklynJackBlue 1 year ago
Everything these guys (and girl) do is FANTASTIC. I love it without reservation. If you have any sense you will too! But then I'm on barbituates.
ekimshield 3 years ago 2
i'm gonna see this saturday! i can't wait
boostedsupra 3 years ago
Hmmm I dont think this really works well. The setting and all. I dont like the way it looks and I also think there is way to many people riffing on a movie. 3 is enuff.
Team7XL 3 years ago
"... and makes a Slinkety sound..."
WhoseLineFanXD 3 years ago
Heh, The funny thing (besides this clip) is I can forsee a division in the MST3K fan base, half for the Cinematic Titanic, the rest for Rifftracks. In my opinion, I will contiune to love both along with MST3K ^_^
Tassadarky 3 years ago 4
More like there's a rift among Mike and Joel (mostly Joel kicking himself for getting out of it before). I think us fans will continue to lovingly support each side.
svengoolie007 3 years ago 2
Trace: "That car is REALLY milking it's death scene."
He almost sounded like Crow there. ^_^
TomMSTie 3 years ago 3
the weird set up doesn't make sense to me. why not just use theater seating like MST3K?
JSword 3 years ago
Copywrite issues - the theater seating is a MST trademark. Also a lot of the cast members had a problem with how MST changed when it went to the SciFi channel (e.g. scripted jokes instead of off the cuff among other issues which contributed to why so many left in the first place) so they deliberately wanted this to have a different feel.
snakehands 3 years ago 4
"If you could see the look on what's left of your face. Priceless!"
hammrocks 3 years ago
"Well, what do you know? Skank detector works!!"
ngobleus 3 years ago
Reminds me too much of Mystery Science Theater 3,000 (Which I love)
LunarProductions 3 years ago
that's exactly what it is . same people
boostedsupra 3 years ago
I just bought the movie. It's so awesome. I can't wait to get the others. I was amazed how fast the DVD burned. I guess because it's already in DVD format. You don't have to convert anything. What I really liked was how EZ something, whatever that company is called, has a built in DVD burning program. It burns the whole movie in under 10 minutes. I was like, no way it's finished. But it was and worked perfect. Awesome stuff
Islandfad 3 years ago
When we be able to order this DVD in Canada???
zedlacher 3 years ago
When someone rips it and uploads it
CompareMe 3 years ago
Tom Servo curses ye! A pox upon thee and that miserable Wall-E droid! I actually met him and we had drinks with out in Cassiopeia 9. Not so funny.
knab69 3 years ago
It's good to see that Joel hasn't changed from the lovable tired-eyed Gizmonic employee. It's kind of sad that Nelson isn't in this one, though.
deathpoet666 3 years ago 7
I don't think they really speak anymore, dude
Islandfad 3 years ago
I definitely loved this! The only person whose lines I would consider slightly weak (but still funny) were Mary Jo's... but that could have just been un-luck of the draw. Trace and Joel really shine through (as expected), but Josh and Frank are hilarious too!
majestikmoose9 3 years ago
TV's Frank finally gets to rip up the movies, not just doing host segments. Great to see Trace and Joel again.
drunk3director 3 years ago 5
This makes me too happy for words.
It's so good to see (well, hear, actually) Joel again!
And how I missed the comedic genius that is Trace Beaulieu: "They ransacked my apartment!" Brilliant!
ToxicWinter 3 years ago
cat stevens nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
oh how I missed those lines.
luvdady 3 years ago
I loved the riffing in this movie! Can't wait for the next one! =)
Consolcwby 3 years ago
To funny. I loved MST3K. The best show and funniest show ever. I never fail to laugh out loud
torgo714 3 years ago
the classics is backsics!!! awesome
tibbz82 3 years ago
Does anyone know if there is bad blood between Joel Hodgson and Mike Nelson? If not, those two need to get together again, as well as the whole crew. Why not? We need this type of comedy now more then ever. It would be heaven on earth!
Cissy2cute 3 years ago 3
I really hope not. been trying to find that out myself.
OxbowisaMstie 3 years ago
Mike Nelson is doing RiffTrax.
chetpooner 3 years ago
Mike, Kevin and Paul are doing the Film Crew too. So yeah every one is back with not 1
MST3k BUT 2!!!
OxbowisaMstie 3 years ago
@OxbowisaMstie: Er, Mike, Kevin, and BILL are doing Film Crew. Well, actually, they haven't done that in a while, they've been focusing more on RiffTrax. Paul (as in Paul Chaplin) WAS working with Jim Mallon on some stuff at the new official MST3K site, but it looks like they're renovating that site right now.
And now you know, and knowing is half the battle. :)
RobynRed21 3 years ago
"Always look your best, that's my motto."
ngobleus 3 years ago 2
Dammit, can't the whole gang just pool their money and buy back the rights to MST3k and start that up again, in DVD form? Rifftrax and this feel like cold, stale leftovers. I miss the bots and the S.O.L.
visceralgristle 3 years ago 4
I love these guys! This is the greatest (besides MST3K, that is)!
goldenotter9 3 years ago
"Oh good, they brought Stiffy Pop!"
ngobleus 3 years ago
mmmmmmm Stifffy Pop!!!!
teenybee2413 3 years ago
Oh,GAWD---are we now going to turn the coexistance of Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic into some New York vs. New Jersey/Kirk vs. Picard/potatos vs. stuffing/shirts vs. skins/butter-side-up vs. butter-side-down ultimately pointless RIVALRY??!!??
Can't we all just get along?
ctdsnark 3 years ago 7
Yeah, no kidding....one thing's for sure, I'm gonna start buying stuff from both groups.
ngobleus 3 years ago
I think that would be amazing lol....i am crossing my fingers!
OxbowisaMstie 3 years ago
It's just nice to hear Joel ripping on a movie again. "If you could see the look on what's left of your face".
O captain my captain.
Blackangusfilms 3 years ago 6
I'll stand for that!!
jkgroves75 3 years ago
TV's FRANK!!!! (yeah i missed joel too)
OxbowisaMstie 3 years ago 2
tvs frank hell ya. between him and trace it was the greatest duo ever!
luvdady 3 years ago
You said it Daddy O!
OxbowisaMstie 3 years ago
"They ransacked my apartment!"
XD
TomServo200X 3 years ago
Eh, RiffTrax are the heir apparent to MST3K. This is ...really bland.
misterworm 3 years ago 2
I hope you are actually commenting on the DVD. Because critiquing a trailer is just moronic.
OfTheWillows 3 years ago
classic reminds me of MSTK3000, back in the old days, i guess they got bored and made this new show
themasterofair 3 years ago 2
Is this going to be released widely on DVD?
Warners30 3 years ago
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This is just so annoying. It's like trying to watch a film with a couple of smart arses sat behind. Bad films are enjoyable on their own, without unfunny comments for the hard of thinking.
atomsmasha 3 years ago
"Bad films are enjoyable on their own, without unfunny comments for the hard of thinking."
No they're not, the best watched with some friends preferably stoned. The comments are pretty witty, they aint all winners, but I laughed.
BallsMacHammer 3 years ago 5
Then we agree. I commented on watching these movies "on their own" (ie: without additional audio commentary on the soundtrack), not "on your own". So it's always preferable to watch them with friends.
atomsmasha 3 years ago
INDEED. And when (-sniff-) you have no friends and I'n not mentioning any names that rhyme with CallsHacBlammer - It's fun to have a couple on the DVD with you.
BallsMacHammer 3 years ago
lol, my sister said the same thing when i forced her to watch Boggy Creek II (MST3K)
"well, they can't all be winners.."
and bad movies are definitely better with the commentary ON, MST3K is the best, followed by CinTit, and film crew isnt really that good at all but... its still 3rd.
unless you do have some friends to watch it with, baked like you said, and those friends are good at riffing movies in real time, then commentary is OFF. esp. this way you can riff "good" movies
b0ssh0gg 3 years ago
Maybe (just maybe) this person is being ironic. To wit, notice this excerpt from the "history of the show" page 3 at mst3kinfo website (1988 KTMA episode one): "The station received some complaints from people who did not catch on to the concept and were irritated by the 'immature junior high kids' (as one caller dubbed them) talking over the movie." But it is nice to see some different opinions, whatever I personally think.
r3di2watch 3 years ago
Awesome, except the setup on the shadows is kind of distracting and I could do without Mary Jo.
EaglesMan36 3 years ago 3
her voice annoys me. she is the robin quivers of cinematic titanic
enigma414 3 years ago
What "Good fellas" scene is Frank talking about?
astrocitizen 3 years ago
i think it was the scene where henry and his girlfriend go underneath the club and get the best seat in the house
enigma414 3 years ago
cant really compare mike and joel, mike is a little bit country, and joel is a bit rock n roll.
8poseur8 3 years ago 4
WHAT! how do you come to that conclusion!
LAZERLUKE 3 years ago
They ransacked my apartment! LOL
wydok 3 years ago
I recognize Joel, Frank, and Mary Jo here, but who are the other two guys?
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Trace Beaulieu and also Josh "J Elvis" Weinstein
(Dr Erhardt from the first season)
shrinkingvideo 3 years ago
Ah, I don't think I ever saw the first season. :P No wonder I didn't recognize the 5th guy as Trace, he doesn't say anything till the last few seconds. *l*
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
I still can't believe they got Josh Weinstein in for this. Not that I was ever a big fan, but with Rifftrax this really makes it like 1990 MST vs. 1999 MST...but then you have Mary Jo, which is kind of strange. Still, Joel fans and Mike fans, its time to fight to the death!
NekoSOM 3 years ago
I would so enjoy a Joel and Mike fight to the death... but only if they turned it into a Star Trek TOS style battle.
shuboy05 3 years ago
well, great! now were gonna have a whole new round of the "joel, mike, joel, mike" thing. look folks; could we maybe just bypass it this time and get strait to what's really important: "josh, kevin, josh, kevin"!?
really though, thanks for doing this guys & gal, i'm looking forward to basking in it's snarky glory.
ytsejam6891 3 years ago
Can't wait! I don't know about the props, but I'll watch it regardless. When does this air?
NelsonClay 3 years ago
Like the two sided approach and what seems to be the more frequent and dramatic use of props.
bohrfermi 3 years ago 2
I love it! It's great seeing you guys together again and I really enjoy the format of all five of you on screen. More episodes, PLEASE!!
johnnypark3004 3 years ago 3
Looks good Joel, can't wait to see the whole thing!
tuscano1 3 years ago
This is SO awesome! The world needs some more DEEP HURTING! Stay frosty guys!
veltro75 3 years ago
Joel, Thank you so much for bringing it back, I have been a dedicated fan since 1991. Love the promo, Im looking forward to more :-).
Though I have to admit getting use to the new shadow style you have going on is a little hard but no biggie, I think its hilarious.
Thanks again for keeping this all alive.
wendyw007 3 years ago
Its over honey, get used to it.
Yabbablabba 4 years ago
MST3K is over. But it has now lead to Film Crew, Rifftrax, and now Cinematic Titanic. I bet you haven't seen any of them. Your loss.
ErrinFamilia 3 years ago
I have checked them out, but the original formula is gone, so you can either accept the new incarnation for what it is or move on and not bitch in the comments;P
Yabbablabba 3 years ago
> I have checked them out, but the original
> formula is gone
I nearly busted my gut watching the rifftrax version of Star Trek Generations and Battle Field Earth. Maybe it's not exactly the same, but hell if it isn't funny.
I couldn't sit through all of Battle Field Earth until I found the riff trax, I've always slightly wondered how it ended.
fuzzywzhe 3 years ago
The Film Crew is basicly MST3k ver. 2. It's the same formula without the silhouettes. Cinimatic Titanic, while I haven't seen the episode yet (still searching for it to buy or download or stream, please let me know if you know) it seems Cinimatic Titanic is MST3k vol. 3. Old cheesy movies riffed on by the old crew with silhouettes. I'm looking forward to this greatly!
HollowNobleStone 3 years ago
but none of them has the cheap sci-fi feeling to it which I loved about MST3K
fleischpudding 3 years ago
hey joel, I remember your stand up stuff, like the "johnny secret agent" bit. rock on.
59TV 4 years ago
"That car is really milkin' it's death scene."
mseales 4 years ago 2
Can't we all just agree that our lives would be worth NOTHING if it weren't for MST3K and all it gave us?
P.S. Joel, I want you to have my children. Honestly, I just can't take of them anymore.
Boonehams 4 years ago 3
Excellent work to all of those involved.
I'm just curious if there's some rift between those involved in this and those on the other side of things. Namely Mike,
Bill, and of course the great Kevin Murphy. I'd love to see those guys involved in some capacity. Rifftrax is good, but this looks way more promising.
balderdashsir 4 years ago
I think both project have their upsides. With Nelson's, he can riff on any movie and not have to worry about copyrights. But this brings back fond memories of MST3K.
Kur01 4 years ago
They are currently involved in to projects, one being rifftrax, another being "the film crew" were you can once again buy full dvds with there commentary, however sadly there are no silhouettes.
Glad to see theres life after mst3k for everyone. and I hope I help out a bit
Qcaster 4 years ago
If you buy the DVDs you definitely help. The gang will make new episodes as long as the fans (new and originals) support the show. This is capa
stoneysharp 4 years ago
LMAO! I have got to see this!
SkyfireTheFox 4 years ago
Gang, this whole thing is REALLY, REALLY GOOD! From this clip I thought the silhouettes would be intrusive, but they make the movie seem BIGGER--that gap in the middle makes it feel more full. It's like they are comedic scientists (which they are), analyzing this foreign visualization, all bouncing riffs off each other. The movie seems bigger, and the riffs ARE bigger. Killer comeback, Joel!
reddyredd 4 years ago 3
Not only do you bring us more long awaited movie riffing, but you also throw in boom lifts and large scale shadow props on a soundstage full of funny, talented people?! This is more than ever could have been dreamed of in 1999.
Joel, Buddy, your particular brand of thoughtful yet totally oddball humor has been sorely lacking for too long. I am so glad you are still in the business of entertainment!
HODGSON AND COMPANY FOREVER.
YOU ARE LEGION.
I EXPECT YOU.
thegentlesherpa 4 years ago
if this is a sign of things to come, then HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!
MisterSin87 4 years ago
i love this, but mike always did it more for me.
there's a new group doing dvd movies called incognito cinema warriors xp that's almost as good as mst3k and they do good pupperty and stuff.
can't wait for my cinematic titantic dvd!
mst3k4life 4 years ago 2
OH...... HELL...... YEA!!!!
burninbiomass 4 years ago
This show is gonna ROCK
RowBadMovies 4 years ago
I love it! This is very exciting. Any fellow MST3K fans in or near Los Angeles?
Oddityworld 4 years ago
where's Crow and Tom??? Gotta have them!!!!
daikaiju20 4 years ago
THANK YOU ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!
technoskull 4 years ago
I'm getting this, no doubt about it! :) I've been an MST3K fan Since Turkey Day 1994!
fixman88 4 years ago 4
*ahem*
WE gather together to watch cheesy movies
On C&*%& C!@*#&#$ on thanksgiving day
at Mystery Science *gasp* Theater 3000
It's 30 straight hours and it's called Turkey Dayeeeeeee!
Sorry, I've had that stuck in my head for about 15 years and it was dying to get out.
zstardust838 3 years ago
XD Woot!
nupinoop296 2 years ago
I don't know, personally I think SOMETHING'S missing. There's like a spark that isn't there...
I dunno, maybe the shadows are too invasive, or maybe there's a spice missing in the commentaries...
ThyGoddess 4 years ago
I know what you mean, this is missing something. Maybe it's the writing, if you remember Mike was the head writter and he's absent. I don't know, it also seems like Joel started this back up only to make money (All the people on here, accept for Mary Jo, left MST3K to pursue their own thing) and, as I've heard, Joel didn't even like hosting. Personally, I just miss the theater set up! Simple, yet functional (But this is my same gripe with RiffTrax :P)
StareCalmo 4 years ago 3
Yes, but then again I feel more comfortable listening to Rifftrax. Well, besides that it's really a bother to time the two together...
ThyGoddess 4 years ago
There's a player that Rifftrax offers now (for free) that synchs up the movie and audio track.
Stormwysper 4 years ago 2
Look it's just different and if people expect the same MST3K they will be disappointed. It looks good to me although I will miss the outer space angle but I think the commentary will be just as witty. You know it's the same principle, same people, but not exactly the same show and that's why for fans like us it will take some getting used to because we expect Crow T. Robot and all of that.
Oddityworld 4 years ago 3
You people who keep posting 'Mike was head writer' don't know what a head writer is, and don't know the history of MST3K. The head writer doesn't write all the jokes. It's mainly clerical. They write down and organize all the jokes that are made. And MST3K was funny before Mike joined. Mike is great and all, but too many of you only see him as important b/c you came in after Joel left. He created the show and is the brains and heart behind it.
brainiacgames 4 years ago 2
He only started hosting at Joel left, he was still writing before that (And no one said they didn't like Joel, I think he's hilarious). That doesn't matter, though, if someone feels there's something missing then there is something missing, you can't argue over someones feelings. That's what's beautiful about comedy, it's not singular. We all have our own ideas of what's funny, not one truth.
StareCalmo 4 years ago
Mike was head writer from day 1. Mike was with the show MST3K from day 1.
dylanfan1969 4 years ago
braniac, I like how you rip on people for not knowing the history of MST3k, yet you didn't know Mike Nelson was with MST3k from the beginning.
Back on topic, WELCOME BACK JOEL!
scitek 4 years ago
So you've completely forgetten about the KTMA period?
brainiacgames 4 years ago
You know, if you even mention the subject of Mike vs. Joel on any reputable MST3K forum or usenet group, you will get the shit flamed out of you.
For good reason.
Drop it.
DrCyclopsKSC 3 years ago
Cat Stevens, NO!
banduril 4 years ago 3
that made me crack up!
CautionarySong 4 years ago
Bring back the robots, stop messing with the obvious.
BentSlightly 4 years ago
Yeah, there's just something missing without Crow and Servo, and even Gypsy. But I'm glad they're able to do this in the first place.
rand21althor 4 years ago 3
yup, definitely needs the bots back.
freddypig 4 years ago 4
I'd much rather they be sitting on the bottom, but I should just be grateful it's back at all.Also, CAT STEVENS, NO!
DrButler 4 years ago 3
There are no words for how much I love hearing these voices again.
Joel's best work since TV Wheel.
We needed this. It was time.
jylaspie 4 years ago 7
Wow, this is actually really cool - they kind of reinvented MST3K. Love it!
Craiginator3000 4 years ago 7
I'd be on board with ordering the DVD. I'd love to talk about you guys in a future episode of my show, and use clips from this trailer. I'll make sure to get the permission I need before doing so. Great job, guys. It's nice to see you all together again. Take care.
GrilledMonkeyFat 4 years ago
As far as price, let's see. Drop 20+ to go on a date to a film where you CAN'T talk over it; or pay 15 and own the film where talking is encouraged.
I'm for the latter.
And as far as a rift or problems between Mike and Joel, I think its just a case of Mike remained in the Midwest, along with Kevin; whereas the CT crew all have been involved with Hollywood as writers/directors/producers of television. I think its nothing more than just locale.
Frontmanfrg 4 years ago
I'm waiting to see what the price for the UK release will be like before I add my thoughts... I'm looking forward to it though, I just really want to hear what Joel and Mike think of each other's stuf right now...
iamhewhoisiam 4 years ago
Due to rights issue, you should be able to download it sometime in April or later... if you can wait.
TheRightNut 4 years ago 2
part of me wants to scream like a little kid and say NO! I can't wait!
But then the annoying grown up says that I've waited this long for some kind of return to MST3K, so I can wait a bit longer, I suppose.
Oh, but then there's the 20-something cynic who thinks that the entire thing will have been posted on the internet by then and I won't have to worry!
iamhewhoisiam 4 years ago
I can't wait for this to appear in my mailbox.
Well ok, I CAN wait, I just don't want to.
taigakirdape 4 years ago
This kicks ass! I can't wait till it arrives.
Love the music, hope its the theme.
7rockwater7 4 years ago
Joel, how's the 'bots
smashwhammy 4 years ago
True Misties have been waiting for many years for a real movie riffing system. Rifftrax is great, but I truly miss the silhouettes, and real production values. How can you say 15$ is too much, thats crazy, thats about 4 gallons of gas. Rhino home video was charging around 25$ at one point for one episode of MST3k This is the only reunion we will get to see, so for all you haters just don't watch it or buy it. I for one will support in any way
drewsolo79 4 years ago
True Misties? You're forgetting that Mike Nelson was the head writer on the show. I'm not bagging on CT, since I have yet to see the first episode, but I think they're missing a key element and that element is Mike Nelson.
KuatoLives 4 years ago
(I think that the "real movie riffing system" was referring to the silhouettes?) If you want some Mike, go check out Rifftrax. Personally, I don't think that CT is going to suffer at all from the lack of Mike.
prophetofog 4 years ago
Five stars based on past glory. Otherwise...
As much as I love the old MST3K days, this TITANIC project simply costs too much. A burned DVD in a sleeve for $15? Come on. I would consider paying $10-$12 for a pressed DVD in a substantial case with extras. I buy every PIXAR movie for about that much. I won't be buying this project at this price.
I predict piracy will damage sales to the point at which Joel and company will throw in the towel early.
PoopSquasher 4 years ago
This is all kinds of YES.
reallifesuperhero 4 years ago
Take that , un-funny Jim Mallon!
388rocks 4 years ago
yeaaaaah trace is the final one in the preview.
one of the funniest ones too. daaaaang I cant wait for mine to arrive
RedBullKatie 4 years ago
Bill Corbett is taunting you guys!
easytalkcafe 4 years ago