@espakor A Serial killer can enter heaven if they repent and turn away from serial killing.. Living a generally good life won't get u into heaven because the key word is "generally" and u need to be PERFECT to get into heaven..SInce all humans are born into sin no one is really "good" atleast not by themselves..we can only achieve perfection through Jesus Christ. The Gospel is beyond logic.. u can't understand God with ur mind.. but with ur heart..
@Avtinyourface yep.. but the key is to repent.. if God sees that u keep deliberately sinning and then running to him for forgiveness and keep on sinning even after u asked him for forgiveness then there is no forgiveness in that. Thats like someone slapping u in the face and saying they r sorry plz forgive me and u forgive them but then they come the next day and slap u in the face again and apologize again..don't u think that is an abuse of grace?
Bullshit, this god banished Lucifer to earth, cauze he could not deal with him in heaven, so earth was Lucifer's prison. The this same god creates man in the prison in which Lucifer lives, puts a tempting tree in the middle of the garden, allows Lucifer to gain access to this special garden created for them, seduces them to fail and disobey. This god now turns and banishes them from this garden and sentences them to death, and now he puts a guard at the gate of the garden to stop them get in
Hummmmm. Seems like the one with ALL THE POWER to be able to "banish a very powerful angel as Lucifer from heaven to earth, create man in the "prison" where Lucifer lives, put a tempting tree in the middle of the garden, allow Lucifer to seduce them to fail and disobey, banish them from this garden and sentence them to physical & spiritual death" is God.
If God has the POWER to control EVERYTHING, one would have to be a complete FOOL to think he/she can dictate what God should do.
@GMDOCNICE; U must remember that the power of god which is purported is the power of Life, of LOve, of Truth, of Peace. The very nature of your god is in stark contrast against things that are written about him, So my point in that is this. Though it is taught to you that god is Love, a different god is given to you in reality than the theoretical god you serve, a god of hate, and war, and prejudice, & segregation. This god was given 2 U by the creators of your religion and the world system.
@GMDOCNICE: What this has done is allowed you to accept a world where this great god you know, tolerates and allows evil to thrive until some great day when it is over, all the while the people who gave you the real god of the world they created for you, continue to rule and subjugate the people of this earth, always substituting some cataclysmic event to renew your faith that in a short while the god you serve will come and save you, rather than you saving yourself.
@GMDOCNICE: Yes The god you serve is a god which has been given to you by the creators and wielders of Power of the World systems you call home, it is a powerless god, who derives his power from your activity, while you the enslaved continue to justify your suffering under his watch by suggesting that he is god so he can do what he wants. Love is not dictatorial, neither is it long suffering to unkindness and injustice, So what you serve can not be God. it is a figment of your imagination.
@GMDOCNICE: And a means of controlling the LIFE essence in you to maintain the existence of the oppressive and demoncratic (democratic) world you live in. No God is coming to save mankind except the God of LIFE and LOVE TRUTH and PEACE rises up inside mankind, mankind recognizes the power within his own self and removes the false god from the systems of this earth, headed by the varying western religions, and return RIGHT LIVING, (righteousness) to the function of man.
@GMDOCNICE Call me what you will, with your usual religious and maybe christian if your are hypocrisy. If the knowledge i have and know, makes me a fool Then a fool i will be as the wisdom of your religion is foolishness to my way of LIFE. As your own scripture says: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
@GMDOCNICE :Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. I will stop there. I have no place in your world systems of whom your religions and gods are king, and "Queens" LIFE alone is any God, The Humanity of this planet is his representative (not some Jesus), And the Work of RIGHT in Humanity is the only Holiness... Peace and respect to you!
Wow! That was a rather detailed rant basically saying that YOU have absolute knowledge of all there is to know about who God is and how YOU think He should be running the world (or not) and how corrupt He & His world is due to His nature & the wild machinations of so-called progenitors of all things Religious & Holy.
Bottom line: If you believe all that you wrote, then I cannot condemn you for that because as it is written, "you are condemned already".
You know, that's been said before about God. As a matter of fact, people use to spit in his face. I hope one day that you find that you actually need God more than you hate him. God bless you.
The "U.S. Constitution" & "The U.S. Tax Code" is also full of contradictions yet people such as yourself continue being FAITHFUL tax paying Americans because you know that failure to do so will bring SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES!
@Avitinyourface Not necessarily, but I think it's vital if you want to remain as close as you can to God on your walk of faith. Sin hurts God, and so the more we sin, the more distanced we are from God. By asking for forgiveness regularly, then we can remain close to God and He to us :)
espakor said, "Felt like watching an As Seen On TV advertisement".
...That's right Johnny......act now and you will not only receive forgiveness of your sins and avoid the coming Judgment and Full Wrath of God upon your soul but as a Bonus, you also receive a FREE GIFT of Eternal Life with Jesus Christ, the Lord & Savior of your Soul! So, get your Salvation, TODAY!!!
For anyone who is looking for a biblical explanation of the gospel and salvation, I would highly recommend checking out the scribd website that is listed on my channel. The scripture references given on there make it very clear and easy to understand.
This video is wrong. it teaches 'Lordships Salvation' because it mentions you have to turn away from sin i.e. WORKS to be saved. This is unbiblical. The only thing ONLY THING we must do to be saved is accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. We turn from sin as a RESULT of being born-again! Also Jesus is God himself and this video implies God and Jesus are 2 separate beings.
@ultimatedazzler So by your logic, even a serial killer can enter heaven as long as he accepts jesus as lord and savior?
What about other people of different faiths who have lead a generally good life with generally non-violent behavior and did some volunteer services for others?
All religions claim that their message is the one that's absolute truth. Well I say, prove it with empirical evidence and reasoned logic.
And the idea that being punished forever for thought crimes is just absurd.
What a Wisdom!! Gospel in 10 mins to the heathen,thats surely by the Holy Spirit's guidance!!..God Bless All those who took the efforts to create this presentation and post it here..I have posted this on FB as well..Let the Good News be shared with everyone in the world..None of the human soul must go to Hell..Lets see if Satan can stop this!!!
I used to feel a similar way. I used to love the darkness. I used to live for myself and was addicted to perversion. But ever since God saved me, I began to desire truth and goodness. Open your eyes... If you watched the video you've heard the Truth. Jesus is the Creator, King and Judge. Yet you've denied what is obvious. Do you not feel conviction? Do you not have a conscience? God will deal with us all with justice. I fear for you. Please rethink your position.
But seriously I find it ironic that you ask me to think, when to accept your god would mean I would have to do the exact opposite, stop thinking and use faith. I will NEVER, NEVER stop thinking do you understand? Unlike you I REFUSE to give up my humanity. Also, evidence would help...
@Nayster23 I nvr said you are a pedophile.By perversion I meant in a more general sense. Jesus said if you look at a woman lust than you have committed adultery in your heart. You may or may not have done that.
Perhaps you have been mislead to what Faith is. The Christian faith is very reasonable/intellectual. It's not a wishy-washy blind faith. You seem to think being a Christian requires us to shut off our brains. I am interested in knowing why you think that.
God will give mankind as many oppertunties to repent but the heart has to change, satan knows this and is why he works hard to corrupt man's heart to turn against God. Because how can one be forgiven when they dont think they're done anything wrong? I.E denying sin and calling good as evil and evil to be good. Lord help us to see the truth of this message even those already saved.
So God will send us to hell for mistakes he knows we will make? What about those who have done good but have never heard of Jesus? Does God even exist? Any proof that Jesus rose again? These are some important questions to ask.
God doesn't send people to hell for mistakes He knows humans make. God sends people to hell for their willful rejection of Him.
In the bible, Jesus Himself said, “Why do you call me GOOD? No one is GOOD except God alone."(Mark 10:18). Jesus also said, "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out." (John 6:37)
Yes, God exists.
By Faith & Evidence. The proof that Jesus rose from the dead is there. Many saw Christ after His resurrection.
The questions you asked were really very good questions. But ultimately, I firmly believe with all my heart that it is God Himself who pursues us in order to open our eyes to the truth of who He is & why it was important for His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins. Otherwise, what God did for us would NEVER EVER MAKE ANY SENSE!
Also, I absolutely do believe that God is All Knowing & All-Powerful! God Bless you.
@GMDOCNICE So wouldn't you agree that if someone knows what choice we're going to make (God and all knowing) then do we really actually have free will?
Absolutely, we have free will but the Sovereignty of God trumps our "free will".
Look at it like this: The average fish in the Pacific Ocean has the free will to swim wherever it wants to but only within the limitations of its "free will". Does that average fish make the "free will" choice to swim the lowest depths, where the atmospheric pressures can crush it to death? Does the average fish by its "free will" choose to swim on land? Some things are just GREATER than our "free will".
Isn't repentance somthing continiously? i mean, even when we've accepted Christ, don't we still have to live a Holy life, asking Jesus to cleance us day by day for our tresspasses?
@negrettobono I think it is hard to remember to repent every single day I know I am not perfect of remembering to do that.... I think as long as we get to the point where we know we need to ask for forgiveness about everything.... I know I try and remember to Repent every Saturday before church on Sunday just so I can start my week fresh, and my week starts on Sunday... hopefully that is helpful
No I'm not apostate even though I have issues that I need to work out, but I was making a point that according to the book of revelation 75% of christians need to repent. Remember the story of the ten virgins in Matthew? Five were wise and five were foolish. Virgins is another name for people who are born again.
What about the churches in the book of revelation? 5 of those churches are in error and in need of repentance. If they don't repent hell is crouching at your door desiring to have you. Some christians departed from the faith already and into apostasy.
But what about you? Is your faith a matter of what everybody else is like? Have YOU departed from the faith? Explain why you are not in apostasy yourself.
But what about all the people from other religions who have never heard of Jesus? For example, what happens to a Buddhist when he dies? He obviously never asked Jesus for forgiveness because he had never heard or wasn't taught about Jesus. What would happen to him?
The bible says that God has written on the hearts, consciences & even in nature, the knowledge of Himself to all people. So, it is God who provides the light of the gospel but we in turn have the ability to deny of reject that light.
So, in other words, it is ultimately God Himself who leads all people to the light of Christ & His gospel, no matter where they are or what situation their in on the planet earth. Hope this helps. Read Romans 2
@GMDOCNICE i agree with you and i was really pleased when i read that passage in the BIBLE coz it shows How much OUR GOD is a GOD of Justice. that Passage seriously showed me HIS GREATNESS AND HOW MUCH HE LOVES EACH AND EVERYONE OF US.which is wonderful bcoz i come from Africa and it 's just about a 1000 yrs ago or so that the Gospel were preached to inner parts of the continent.them who heard about JESUS n refused to let HIM into their heart.what will they say for their defence on judgemt day?
What about this. II Tim. 1:9—"…according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began." The word "world" is not found in the Greek manuscripts, the word "began" is not found in the Greek manuscripts. Here is what the Greek says: "…before TIMES EONIAN." So where is the consistency with these translators? Could they not deceive the readers by translating this verse properly? go to pt1
@phillip78 pt 2 If "aionios" means "eternal" or "evermore" then HOW, pray tell, can there be "TIMES" "BEFORF" "ETERNITY?" Give me a break. This is not translating; this is out and out planned deception! They change an adjective into a noun, then change the noun to a different word, then completely leave out the word "times." This total lack of scholarship and honesty is reprehensible!
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"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the SOUL: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both SOUL and BODY in HELL." (Matt 10:28)
Scripture teaches that which is the "material" part of man (HIS BODY) can be killed by a man but the "immaterial" part of man (his SOUL) cannot be killed by a man.
We ARE a soul. Your comment has nothing to do with material or immaterial. Gen 2:7 simply states man IS a soul. But not only that I Cor. 15:44, "...it is raised A SPIRITUAL BODY. Literal fire cannot affect spiritual bodies. Physical fire affects physical. Can you LITERALLY set a spirit on fire with real fire? The word fire all throughout scripture is symbolic. The greek word for fire is pur #4442 meaning to purify.
1st Man does not HAVE a soul, man became a living soul. Therefore man IS a soul. Gen 2:7 2nd Justice? People have some gall to say God demands justice? How about this, you say God is love, but must punish sinners FOREVER? This is demeaning to God's greatest expression of love in his sacrificial death for all mankind. How UNJUST is this for God to have propitiated the sins of the whole world, who gave His life as a ransom FOR ALL 1Jn 2:2 then to LOSE what he paid for?
1st Your "soul" represents the immaterial part of man (i.e. your mind, your thoughts). They are VERY REAL but Not Physical. Are you saying that there is no matter or substance to man? If so, spread your legs apart & let me kick you as hard as I can between them & after that I think you'll agree that you do have physicality. 2ndly, Rev 21:8/Rev 2:11/Rev 20:6/Rev 20:14 is pretty clear that there will be a "Second Death" and is pretty descriptive about the who/what/when/where & how's.
Scripture is VERY CLEAR with its explanations that "eternal destruction" does not equate "eternal annihilation". If one believes that the bible is true about "eternal rewards" then it should also logically follow what the bible teaches about "eternal punishments".
Truth is, there are some things about God that people LIKE YOU will NEVER ACCEPT! But, no matter how much you deny the "Truth" of God's word, it remains true anyway despite your efforts to deny certain parts of it.
@GMDOCNICE Why didn't you answer my question? Is the fire in 1 Cor and 1 Peter different than the fire in Rev 21:8. Mt 25:26 is not eternal it is aionion chastisement
I did answer the initial questions you asked about man's soul & eternal punishment but true to form, you don't really care about my answers, do you? You just want to fight & argue & act just like all people who are in cults.
Spiritual Bullies like you are NEVER satisfied with ANYTHING except what is taught to them by their leaders. They don't agree with what you are saying so they take you down the primrose path of false doctrinal poppycock; just like a modern day Pharisee would.
@GMDOCNICE will you deny the translation error in this. II Thes. 2:16—and has given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace." "Console" is defined as, "To allay sorrow or grief of." "Hope" is defined as, "To wish for something with expectations of its fulfillment." Now then, according to this inane KJV translation of this verse, just how long are we going to have our "SORROW AND GRIEF ALLAYED?" How long must we "HOPE" before we have our hope fulfilled? For ALL ETERNITY? Nonsense.
@GMDOCNICE But no real logical explanation to my comments about the translation errors about the word eternal and everlasting? Just I'm in error and I need to learn and study? oooookay
@GMD Hasting’s Dictionary of the New Testament Vol. I, p. 542, art. Christ and the Gospels Eternity. There is no word either in the O.T. Hebrew or the N.T. Greek to express the abstract idea of eternity. Vol. III, p. 369
The New Testament in Modern Speech, by Dr. R. F. Weymouth: Eternal: Greek: "aeonion," i.e. "of the ages." Etymologically this adjective, like others similarly formed, does not signify during, but belong to the aeons or ages.
No response to my comment about 1 Thes 2:16 either?
PT1 Tortured in the Greek word dokimion Strong's Concordance #1383 mean to be TESTED. We are tried. Beloved, think it not strange concerning the firey trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you I Pet. 4:12 Every man's work including believers] shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed BY FIRE, and the FIRE shall TRY every man's work of what sort it is I Cor. 3:13
PT2 How are the fearful, and unbelievin...g, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars judged? Answer .In the lake which burns with fire(Rev. 21:8) Is this fire in the book of Revelation different from the fire that tries the works of believers in the book of I Corinthians? NO!
So in essence, God demands perfection from the imperfect creatures that he created, and was so angry at them that he MUST punish with an eternal torment. This is strange, very strange indeed.
My friend, is what you got out of this video? If you lied to your siblings, chances are there would be no consequence. But what if you lied to your local police? The consequences for lying to them are definitely more serious than lying to a sibling. If you lied to the F.B.I., the consequences are a minimum of 6 months in Federal Prison. Lying gets more serious depending on who you are lying to & ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE! What happens if you LIE to God? But there is Hope.
@meangreen4321 "So in essence, God demands perfection from the imperfect creatures that he created, and was so angry at them that he MUST punish with an eternal torment." Correction #2. Logical flaw. Man's punishment was not because of God's anger but because of God's holiness. Correction #3. Wrong word choice. God does not demand perfection, getting to heaven requires perfection.
@meangreen4321 "So in essence, God demands perfection from the imperfect creatures that he created, and was so angry at them that he MUST punish with an eternal torment." Correction #2. Logical flaw. Man's punishment was not because of God's anger but because of God's holiness. Correction #3. Wrong word choice. God does not demand perfection, getting to heaven requires perfection.
@meangreen4321 Correction #2. Logical Flaw. Man's punishment is not because of God's anger, but because of God's holiness. Correction #3. Wrong word choice. God does not demand perfection, getting to heaven requires perfection.
@meangreen4321 Key difference. God's punishment on, say the Israelites, in the old testament (before Christ) is astonishingly diffferent from punishment in the new testament (after Christ). We are living in a post-Christ age, meaning punishment comes only after death on this earth. In the old testament, punishment from God came during man's lifetime. Punishment then was from the wrath of God, punishment now is from refusing the grace of God.
At least punishment in the old testament was visible, and brought new meaning to the term "fear of the Lord". Furthermore, I would add that the old testament judgements of God were considered final in 'this' life, which is precisely why it was so terrible. God blessed and preserved the life of the righteous, but cursed and "cut-off' the wicked. There was no belief in further afterlife judgements. Sheol was simply the grave or a shadowy place where the dead roamed.
@meangreen4321 exactly. And if I were to ask if the judgement today were just as terrible, the answer would also be yes. In the same way God will preserve the life of the righteous in heaven, whilst the wicked will depart to hell. I have no idea what you mean by "afterlife judgements" but the both judgements are the same kind of judgement, on the same kind of people, just at different points in time.
"I have no idea what you mean by "afterlife judgements" but the both judgements are the same kind of judgement.."
The difference is that when God judged in this life it was an objectively verifiable, visible, undeniable punishment. When God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, could a reasonable person say, "I don't believe that God punishes the wicked."? Of course not! Today it is possible to deny that this God even exists and everything about the afterlife is obscure.
@meangreen4321 So you are asking for objectively verifiable judgements to prove God's existence? Then fine. I won't argue with you. But what I can say is this. God proves his own existence, and I hope he does to you in time to come. And yes, it is possible to deny that God exists today, but even in the old testament, even with the knowledge that God exists, the people still turned away from him again and again. Why? It comes back to our sinful nature,as the prince of this world has blinded many.
John W. Loftus has a different theory: "...four months and ten days after the escape from Egypt, "all the people" (Ex. 32:3) wanted to worship a golden calf that Aaron claimed "brought you out of Egypt". How could they so quickly abandon God...? I doubt anyone would dare take the risk to worship the calf against the God of Moses... I know I wouldn't! ...the reason they could so quickly abandon... is because their history itself was built upon non-historical myths."
@meangreen4321 For I tell you the truth. The miracles you see today you do not regard as miracles. The history you have in front of you today you do not regard as history. The statement that you make "I know I wouldn't", interestingly is the exact same thing that Peter said to Jesus in Matthew 26 "Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you". And Jesus had said to him before the rooster crows he will disown Him three times. And Peter did. It amazes me how the Word speaks even today.
Actually, that post was totally a quote from John W. Loftus. None of my words at all. Did you actually understand what I wrote? I was showing how the Israelites constant disobedience was because the events didn't transpire the way we read them in Exodus, otherwise they wouldn't have immediately turned back to their idols.
@meangreen4321 actually, that post was directed to John W Loftus, since you quoted him. And I actually understood what he wrote, though I wholeheartedly disagree with him. Surely you have your own opinion rather than quoting a famous atheist and his theory.
ookay... you did write, "the statement that YOU make", but anyways I think he has some plausible theories, but the point is we may never know what "really happened". The story has of the plagues and the exodus has irreconcilable discrepancies so we know somethings not right.
@meangreen4321 irreconcilable discrepancies meaning things that are unimaginable, or meaning things that are historically inaccurate, or verses that contradict each other? All of these "discrepancies" should have already been clarified by bible theologians, go look it up. As for me, it doesn't matter because this debate, as well as debates about evolution, the old earth/new earth issue and abortion and so on... is irreconcilable and will probably never reach a conclusion.
Off the top of my head... I was thinking of the plagues of Egypt story where "all" the cattle of the Egyptians died in one plague and "magically reappeared" only to be hit by the next plague. Also, the descriptions of the size of the fleeing Israelite tribe are completely out of whack and reflect population numbers from a later time in their history. The Israelites are starved in one account of the exodus, but are shown sacrificing plenty of cattle and goats in another account.
"Our debate", which hasn't even reached the message box, will never reach a conclusion because we're only talking concepts not showing many specific verses and examples. If you could read the book I recommended on my channel page by Andrew Benson, you would see an in-depth analysis of the Bible's evolution of belief and origins. Otherwise, I would be willing to send you some info via. message.
@meangreen4321 Second point. True, but in terms of your tone, voice and point of reference, "demands" carries a negative, unjust or unfair connotation, whereas as shown in the video, "requires" would be a better word choice with a more objective tone of argument. Minor point, can be overlooked.
Well, yes, I do tend to use words with a negative connotation, since from my perspective it IS unjust. A person becomes a Christian the moment he/she begins to see themselves as fallen, sinful creatures deserving of God's wrath. On the other hand, I first question whether or not this premise is true at all. I believe that our life here is a gift (if God exists) and we certainly don't "deserve" anything from God, but neither do we deserve punishment, just for being born human.
@meangreen4321 I understand where you're coming from, and I quite agree that life is a gift. It's a chance to live life and make your own choices, and of course we didn't deserve this in the first place. Once I thought like you, that it was unfair that I was born sinful, and then made to face the reality of approaching an eternal doom. Still, I realized that even though I was "forced" to be sinful, I have my life, this freedom of choice to turn that sinfulness around into righteousness.
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Zamastarful 1 month ago
I guess this is the kind of thing sheeple like... anyone over 10 with critical thinking skills will laugh at this.
TheRichmondheights 1 month ago
There are over 3,000 denominations of the Christian faith. You all better hope your dedicating your life to the right cult... Sorry, denomination.
MrDanielHawes 1 month ago
Isn't it funny how the "one true religion" is the one you were brought up with...
Shoelumber 2 months ago
hell dosent exist you pricks hell means earth
logicboy91 3 months ago
@espakor A Serial killer can enter heaven if they repent and turn away from serial killing.. Living a generally good life won't get u into heaven because the key word is "generally" and u need to be PERFECT to get into heaven..SInce all humans are born into sin no one is really "good" atleast not by themselves..we can only achieve perfection through Jesus Christ. The Gospel is beyond logic.. u can't understand God with ur mind.. but with ur heart..
hephzibah141 6 months ago 3
@Avtinyourface yep.. but the key is to repent.. if God sees that u keep deliberately sinning and then running to him for forgiveness and keep on sinning even after u asked him for forgiveness then there is no forgiveness in that. Thats like someone slapping u in the face and saying they r sorry plz forgive me and u forgive them but then they come the next day and slap u in the face again and apologize again..don't u think that is an abuse of grace?
hephzibah141 6 months ago
@tallawah..God has already come to save us tho..
hephzibah141 6 months ago
Bullshit, this god banished Lucifer to earth, cauze he could not deal with him in heaven, so earth was Lucifer's prison. The this same god creates man in the prison in which Lucifer lives, puts a tempting tree in the middle of the garden, allows Lucifer to gain access to this special garden created for them, seduces them to fail and disobey. This god now turns and banishes them from this garden and sentences them to death, and now he puts a guard at the gate of the garden to stop them get in
tallawah19 7 months ago
@tallawah19
Hummmmm. Seems like the one with ALL THE POWER to be able to "banish a very powerful angel as Lucifer from heaven to earth, create man in the "prison" where Lucifer lives, put a tempting tree in the middle of the garden, allow Lucifer to seduce them to fail and disobey, banish them from this garden and sentence them to physical & spiritual death" is God.
If God has the POWER to control EVERYTHING, one would have to be a complete FOOL to think he/she can dictate what God should do.
GMDOCNICE 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE; U must remember that the power of god which is purported is the power of Life, of LOve, of Truth, of Peace. The very nature of your god is in stark contrast against things that are written about him, So my point in that is this. Though it is taught to you that god is Love, a different god is given to you in reality than the theoretical god you serve, a god of hate, and war, and prejudice, & segregation. This god was given 2 U by the creators of your religion and the world system.
tallawah19 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE: What this has done is allowed you to accept a world where this great god you know, tolerates and allows evil to thrive until some great day when it is over, all the while the people who gave you the real god of the world they created for you, continue to rule and subjugate the people of this earth, always substituting some cataclysmic event to renew your faith that in a short while the god you serve will come and save you, rather than you saving yourself.
tallawah19 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE: Yes The god you serve is a god which has been given to you by the creators and wielders of Power of the World systems you call home, it is a powerless god, who derives his power from your activity, while you the enslaved continue to justify your suffering under his watch by suggesting that he is god so he can do what he wants. Love is not dictatorial, neither is it long suffering to unkindness and injustice, So what you serve can not be God. it is a figment of your imagination.
tallawah19 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE: And a means of controlling the LIFE essence in you to maintain the existence of the oppressive and demoncratic (democratic) world you live in. No God is coming to save mankind except the God of LIFE and LOVE TRUTH and PEACE rises up inside mankind, mankind recognizes the power within his own self and removes the false god from the systems of this earth, headed by the varying western religions, and return RIGHT LIVING, (righteousness) to the function of man.
tallawah19 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE Call me what you will, with your usual religious and maybe christian if your are hypocrisy. If the knowledge i have and know, makes me a fool Then a fool i will be as the wisdom of your religion is foolishness to my way of LIFE. As your own scripture says: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
tallawah19 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE :Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. I will stop there. I have no place in your world systems of whom your religions and gods are king, and "Queens" LIFE alone is any God, The Humanity of this planet is his representative (not some Jesus), And the Work of RIGHT in Humanity is the only Holiness... Peace and respect to you!
tallawah19 7 months ago
@tallawah19
Wow! That was a rather detailed rant basically saying that YOU have absolute knowledge of all there is to know about who God is and how YOU think He should be running the world (or not) and how corrupt He & His world is due to His nature & the wild machinations of so-called progenitors of all things Religious & Holy.
Bottom line: If you believe all that you wrote, then I cannot condemn you for that because as it is written, "you are condemned already".
Peace and respect to you too.
GMDOCNICE 7 months ago
@GMDOCNICE fuck god
Zamastarful 3 months ago
@Zamastarful
You know, that's been said before about God. As a matter of fact, people use to spit in his face. I hope one day that you find that you actually need God more than you hate him. God bless you.
GMDOCNICE 3 months ago 4
@Zamastarful fuck u
athenis1000 1 month ago
7 people don't want to know the truth :(
MnRProdMariolaur 7 months ago
@IdeasOfInfluence
The "U.S. Constitution" & "The U.S. Tax Code" is also full of contradictions yet people such as yourself continue being FAITHFUL tax paying Americans because you know that failure to do so will bring SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES!
GMDOCNICE 8 months ago
@Avitinyourface Not necessarily, but I think it's vital if you want to remain as close as you can to God on your walk of faith. Sin hurts God, and so the more we sin, the more distanced we are from God. By asking for forgiveness regularly, then we can remain close to God and He to us :)
LeBexstar 8 months ago
Felt like watching an As Seen On TV advertisement
espakor 9 months ago
@espakor
espakor said, "Felt like watching an As Seen On TV advertisement".
...That's right Johnny......act now and you will not only receive forgiveness of your sins and avoid the coming Judgment and Full Wrath of God upon your soul but as a Bonus, you also receive a FREE GIFT of Eternal Life with Jesus Christ, the Lord & Savior of your Soul! So, get your Salvation, TODAY!!!
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For anyone who is looking for a biblical explanation of the gospel and salvation, I would highly recommend checking out the scribd website that is listed on my channel. The scripture references given on there make it very clear and easy to understand.
DreamsofMajesty 9 months ago
This video is wrong. it teaches 'Lordships Salvation' because it mentions you have to turn away from sin i.e. WORKS to be saved. This is unbiblical. The only thing ONLY THING we must do to be saved is accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour. We turn from sin as a RESULT of being born-again! Also Jesus is God himself and this video implies God and Jesus are 2 separate beings.
ultimatedazzler 10 months ago
@ultimatedazzler So by your logic, even a serial killer can enter heaven as long as he accepts jesus as lord and savior?
What about other people of different faiths who have lead a generally good life with generally non-violent behavior and did some volunteer services for others?
All religions claim that their message is the one that's absolute truth. Well I say, prove it with empirical evidence and reasoned logic.
And the idea that being punished forever for thought crimes is just absurd.
espakor 9 months ago
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Shawnminijk 8 months ago
What a Wisdom!! Gospel in 10 mins to the heathen,thats surely by the Holy Spirit's guidance!!..God Bless All those who took the efforts to create this presentation and post it here..I have posted this on FB as well..Let the Good News be shared with everyone in the world..None of the human soul must go to Hell..Lets see if Satan can stop this!!!
nenjukulpeithidum 10 months ago
Fuck your god is so retarded. xD
XChillX42 11 months ago
@XChillX42
I used to feel a similar way. I used to love the darkness. I used to live for myself and was addicted to perversion. But ever since God saved me, I began to desire truth and goodness. Open your eyes... If you watched the video you've heard the Truth. Jesus is the Creator, King and Judge. Yet you've denied what is obvious. Do you not feel conviction? Do you not have a conscience? God will deal with us all with justice. I fear for you. Please rethink your position.
Peace, Eli
elicork2 11 months ago
@elicork2 Dude... I'm not a pedophile...
But seriously I find it ironic that you ask me to think, when to accept your god would mean I would have to do the exact opposite, stop thinking and use faith. I will NEVER, NEVER stop thinking do you understand? Unlike you I REFUSE to give up my humanity. Also, evidence would help...
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Nayster23 11 months ago
@Nayster23 I nvr said you are a pedophile.By perversion I meant in a more general sense. Jesus said if you look at a woman lust than you have committed adultery in your heart. You may or may not have done that.
Perhaps you have been mislead to what Faith is. The Christian faith is very reasonable/intellectual. It's not a wishy-washy blind faith. You seem to think being a Christian requires us to shut off our brains. I am interested in knowing why you think that.
elicork2 11 months ago
"the Rock of my salvation"
Peter 2:8 and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a
rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because
they disobey the message—which is also what they
were destined for. 1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank
from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and
that rock was Christ.
road2apples 11 months ago
How is the god now? jessus or the god who send people to haven or hell ?, I am some what confused. help me please.
z1x11231234 11 months ago
@z1x11231234
God will send the sinner to hell because that's what we deserve, and God is a good judge.
The Bible teaches the Jesus is God, they are one and the same. See John 1:1.
elicork2 11 months ago
@elicork2 AMEN
NewBornNickumz 9 months ago
God will give mankind as many oppertunties to repent but the heart has to change, satan knows this and is why he works hard to corrupt man's heart to turn against God. Because how can one be forgiven when they dont think they're done anything wrong? I.E denying sin and calling good as evil and evil to be good. Lord help us to see the truth of this message even those already saved.
ViperSRTnACR 1 year ago 14
@ViperSRTnACR
Very Well Said! AMEN!
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
So God will send us to hell for mistakes he knows we will make? What about those who have done good but have never heard of Jesus? Does God even exist? Any proof that Jesus rose again? These are some important questions to ask.
radbanaria 1 year ago
@radbanaria
God doesn't send people to hell for mistakes He knows humans make. God sends people to hell for their willful rejection of Him.
In the bible, Jesus Himself said, “Why do you call me GOOD? No one is GOOD except God alone."(Mark 10:18). Jesus also said, "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out." (John 6:37)
Yes, God exists.
By Faith & Evidence. The proof that Jesus rose from the dead is there. Many saw Christ after His resurrection.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE By the way, I am a Christian. I just like to ask other Christians to see their reaction. Do you think God is all knowing?
radbanaria 1 year ago
@radbanaria
The questions you asked were really very good questions. But ultimately, I firmly believe with all my heart that it is God Himself who pursues us in order to open our eyes to the truth of who He is & why it was important for His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins. Otherwise, what God did for us would NEVER EVER MAKE ANY SENSE!
Also, I absolutely do believe that God is All Knowing & All-Powerful! God Bless you.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE So wouldn't you agree that if someone knows what choice we're going to make (God and all knowing) then do we really actually have free will?
radbanaria 1 year ago
@radbanaria
Absolutely, we have free will but the Sovereignty of God trumps our "free will".
Look at it like this: The average fish in the Pacific Ocean has the free will to swim wherever it wants to but only within the limitations of its "free will". Does that average fish make the "free will" choice to swim the lowest depths, where the atmospheric pressures can crush it to death? Does the average fish by its "free will" choose to swim on land? Some things are just GREATER than our "free will".
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
SOLID! THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SOLID!
jaygresh 1 year ago
Isn't repentance somthing continiously? i mean, even when we've accepted Christ, don't we still have to live a Holy life, asking Jesus to cleance us day by day for our tresspasses?
negrettobono 1 year ago
@negrettobono I think it is hard to remember to repent every single day I know I am not perfect of remembering to do that.... I think as long as we get to the point where we know we need to ask for forgiveness about everything.... I know I try and remember to Repent every Saturday before church on Sunday just so I can start my week fresh, and my week starts on Sunday... hopefully that is helpful
chickidee97 1 year ago
lol
ConinBowkerNZ 1 year ago
No I'm not apostate even though I have issues that I need to work out, but I was making a point that according to the book of revelation 75% of christians need to repent. Remember the story of the ten virgins in Matthew? Five were wise and five were foolish. Virgins is another name for people who are born again.
tricey2300 1 year ago
What about the churches in the book of revelation? 5 of those churches are in error and in need of repentance. If they don't repent hell is crouching at your door desiring to have you. Some christians departed from the faith already and into apostasy.
tricey2300 1 year ago
@tricey2300
But what about you? Is your faith a matter of what everybody else is like? Have YOU departed from the faith? Explain why you are not in apostasy yourself.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
But what about all the people from other religions who have never heard of Jesus? For example, what happens to a Buddhist when he dies? He obviously never asked Jesus for forgiveness because he had never heard or wasn't taught about Jesus. What would happen to him?
HushCage23 1 year ago
@HushCage23
You ask a VERY Good Question.
The bible says that God has written on the hearts, consciences & even in nature, the knowledge of Himself to all people. So, it is God who provides the light of the gospel but we in turn have the ability to deny of reject that light.
So, in other words, it is ultimately God Himself who leads all people to the light of Christ & His gospel, no matter where they are or what situation their in on the planet earth. Hope this helps. Read Romans 2
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE i agree with you and i was really pleased when i read that passage in the BIBLE coz it shows How much OUR GOD is a GOD of Justice. that Passage seriously showed me HIS GREATNESS AND HOW MUCH HE LOVES EACH AND EVERYONE OF US.which is wonderful bcoz i come from Africa and it 's just about a 1000 yrs ago or so that the Gospel were preached to inner parts of the continent.them who heard about JESUS n refused to let HIM into their heart.what will they say for their defence on judgemt day?
JESUSSoldierforlife 1 year ago
What about this. II Tim. 1:9—"…according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began." The word "world" is not found in the Greek manuscripts, the word "began" is not found in the Greek manuscripts. Here is what the Greek says: "…before TIMES EONIAN." So where is the consistency with these translators? Could they not deceive the readers by translating this verse properly? go to pt1
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78 pt 2 If "aionios" means "eternal" or "evermore" then HOW, pray tell, can there be "TIMES" "BEFORF" "ETERNITY?" Give me a break. This is not translating; this is out and out planned deception! They change an adjective into a noun, then change the noun to a different word, then completely leave out the word "times." This total lack of scholarship and honesty is reprehensible!
phillip78 1 year ago
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If your mission is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to All Nations, then I encourage everyone to feel free to save, share, post, embed, download or upload THIS VIDEO and/or ALL VIDEOS I have posted on YouTube, WITH and/or WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. Let's spread the message of "The Gospel" to the world and defend "The Gospel" that Jesus shed his precious blood for. Thank You & May God bless you!
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GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
Man HAS a soul? Chapter and verse please.
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the SOUL: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both SOUL and BODY in HELL." (Matt 10:28)
Scripture teaches that which is the "material" part of man (HIS BODY) can be killed by a man but the "immaterial" part of man (his SOUL) cannot be killed by a man.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE Please provide a verse that states "man has a soul" matt 10:28 does not say man has a soul.
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78 I take it you don't believe man has a soul?
edmanr2003 1 year ago
@edmanr2003 Man IS a soul. There is a big difference between having a soul and BEING a soul. Gen 2:7... and man BECAME a living soul.
phillip78 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE Gen 2:7 man BECAME a living soul.
We ARE a soul. Your comment has nothing to do with material or immaterial. Gen 2:7 simply states man IS a soul. But not only that I Cor. 15:44, "...it is raised A SPIRITUAL BODY. Literal fire cannot affect spiritual bodies. Physical fire affects physical. Can you LITERALLY set a spirit on fire with real fire? The word fire all throughout scripture is symbolic. The greek word for fire is pur #4442 meaning to purify.
phillip78 1 year ago
1st Man does not HAVE a soul, man became a living soul. Therefore man IS a soul. Gen 2:7 2nd Justice? People have some gall to say God demands justice? How about this, you say God is love, but must punish sinners FOREVER? This is demeaning to God's greatest expression of love in his sacrificial death for all mankind. How UNJUST is this for God to have propitiated the sins of the whole world, who gave His life as a ransom FOR ALL 1Jn 2:2 then to LOSE what he paid for?
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78
1st Your "soul" represents the immaterial part of man (i.e. your mind, your thoughts). They are VERY REAL but Not Physical. Are you saying that there is no matter or substance to man? If so, spread your legs apart & let me kick you as hard as I can between them & after that I think you'll agree that you do have physicality. 2ndly, Rev 21:8/Rev 2:11/Rev 20:6/Rev 20:14 is pretty clear that there will be a "Second Death" and is pretty descriptive about the who/what/when/where & how's.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE Yep it is clear that there IS a second death. But why stop there? 1 Cor 15:26 death will be ABOLISHED.
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78
Scripture is VERY CLEAR with its explanations that "eternal destruction" does not equate "eternal annihilation". If one believes that the bible is true about "eternal rewards" then it should also logically follow what the bible teaches about "eternal punishments".
Truth is, there are some things about God that people LIKE YOU will NEVER ACCEPT! But, no matter how much you deny the "Truth" of God's word, it remains true anyway despite your efforts to deny certain parts of it.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE Why didn't you answer my question? Is the fire in 1 Cor and 1 Peter different than the fire in Rev 21:8. Mt 25:26 is not eternal it is aionion chastisement
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78
I did answer the initial questions you asked about man's soul & eternal punishment but true to form, you don't really care about my answers, do you? You just want to fight & argue & act just like all people who are in cults.
Spiritual Bullies like you are NEVER satisfied with ANYTHING except what is taught to them by their leaders. They don't agree with what you are saying so they take you down the primrose path of false doctrinal poppycock; just like a modern day Pharisee would.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE IS THE FIRE IN 1 COR AND 1 PETER DIFFERENT THAN THE FIRE IN REV? ANSWER ME
phillip78 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE will you deny the translation error in this. II Thes. 2:16—and has given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace." "Console" is defined as, "To allay sorrow or grief of." "Hope" is defined as, "To wish for something with expectations of its fulfillment." Now then, according to this inane KJV translation of this verse, just how long are we going to have our "SORROW AND GRIEF ALLAYED?" How long must we "HOPE" before we have our hope fulfilled? For ALL ETERNITY? Nonsense.
phillip78 1 year ago
@phillip78
YOU ARE IN ERROR! Learn to study God's word correctly before you make comments.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
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@GMDOCNICE I'm just asking a question. Why are you dodging my simple question?
phillip78 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE But no real logical explanation to my comments about the translation errors about the word eternal and everlasting? Just I'm in error and I need to learn and study? oooookay
phillip78 1 year ago
@GMD Hasting’s Dictionary of the New Testament Vol. I, p. 542, art. Christ and the Gospels Eternity. There is no word either in the O.T. Hebrew or the N.T. Greek to express the abstract idea of eternity. Vol. III, p. 369
The New Testament in Modern Speech, by Dr. R. F. Weymouth: Eternal: Greek: "aeonion," i.e. "of the ages." Etymologically this adjective, like others similarly formed, does not signify during, but belong to the aeons or ages.
No response to my comment about 1 Thes 2:16 either?
phillip78 1 year ago
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PT1 Tortured in the Greek word dokimion Strong's Concordance #1383 mean to be TESTED. We are tried. Beloved, think it not strange concerning the firey trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you I Pet. 4:12 Every man's work including believers] shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed BY FIRE, and the FIRE shall TRY every man's work of what sort it is I Cor. 3:13
phillip78 1 year ago
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PT2 How are the fearful, and unbelievin...g, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars judged? Answer .In the lake which burns with fire(Rev. 21:8) Is this fire in the book of Revelation different from the fire that tries the works of believers in the book of I Corinthians? NO!
Think man think.
Peace unto you my brother in Christ.
phillip78 1 year ago
So in essence, God demands perfection from the imperfect creatures that he created, and was so angry at them that he MUST punish with an eternal torment. This is strange, very strange indeed.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321
My friend, is what you got out of this video? If you lied to your siblings, chances are there would be no consequence. But what if you lied to your local police? The consequences for lying to them are definitely more serious than lying to a sibling. If you lied to the F.B.I., the consequences are a minimum of 6 months in Federal Prison. Lying gets more serious depending on who you are lying to & ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE! What happens if you LIE to God? But there is Hope.
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 Correction. God created man perfect. Perfect does not mean infallible. Perfect means holy, apart from sin.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
Right, that's a fair distinction to make. However, I don't think it invalidates my point.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
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kaizersabre 1 year ago
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@meangreen4321 "So in essence, God demands perfection from the imperfect creatures that he created, and was so angry at them that he MUST punish with an eternal torment." Correction #2. Logical flaw. Man's punishment was not because of God's anger but because of God's holiness. Correction #3. Wrong word choice. God does not demand perfection, getting to heaven requires perfection.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
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@meangreen4321 "So in essence, God demands perfection from the imperfect creatures that he created, and was so angry at them that he MUST punish with an eternal torment." Correction #2. Logical flaw. Man's punishment was not because of God's anger but because of God's holiness. Correction #3. Wrong word choice. God does not demand perfection, getting to heaven requires perfection.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 Correction #2. Logical Flaw. Man's punishment is not because of God's anger, but because of God's holiness. Correction #3. Wrong word choice. God does not demand perfection, getting to heaven requires perfection.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
Well thanks for setting me straight. However, if you're claiming that God's punishment isn't because of anger, you haven't read the old testament.
If getting to heaven requires perfection, then it is correct to state that God demands perfection if we wish to escape Hell.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 Key difference. God's punishment on, say the Israelites, in the old testament (before Christ) is astonishingly diffferent from punishment in the new testament (after Christ). We are living in a post-Christ age, meaning punishment comes only after death on this earth. In the old testament, punishment from God came during man's lifetime. Punishment then was from the wrath of God, punishment now is from refusing the grace of God.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
At least punishment in the old testament was visible, and brought new meaning to the term "fear of the Lord". Furthermore, I would add that the old testament judgements of God were considered final in 'this' life, which is precisely why it was so terrible. God blessed and preserved the life of the righteous, but cursed and "cut-off' the wicked. There was no belief in further afterlife judgements. Sheol was simply the grave or a shadowy place where the dead roamed.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 exactly. And if I were to ask if the judgement today were just as terrible, the answer would also be yes. In the same way God will preserve the life of the righteous in heaven, whilst the wicked will depart to hell. I have no idea what you mean by "afterlife judgements" but the both judgements are the same kind of judgement, on the same kind of people, just at different points in time.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
"I have no idea what you mean by "afterlife judgements" but the both judgements are the same kind of judgement.."
The difference is that when God judged in this life it was an objectively verifiable, visible, undeniable punishment. When God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, could a reasonable person say, "I don't believe that God punishes the wicked."? Of course not! Today it is possible to deny that this God even exists and everything about the afterlife is obscure.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 So you are asking for objectively verifiable judgements to prove God's existence? Then fine. I won't argue with you. But what I can say is this. God proves his own existence, and I hope he does to you in time to come. And yes, it is possible to deny that God exists today, but even in the old testament, even with the knowledge that God exists, the people still turned away from him again and again. Why? It comes back to our sinful nature,as the prince of this world has blinded many.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
John W. Loftus has a different theory: "...four months and ten days after the escape from Egypt, "all the people" (Ex. 32:3) wanted to worship a golden calf that Aaron claimed "brought you out of Egypt". How could they so quickly abandon God...? I doubt anyone would dare take the risk to worship the calf against the God of Moses... I know I wouldn't! ...the reason they could so quickly abandon... is because their history itself was built upon non-historical myths."
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 For I tell you the truth. The miracles you see today you do not regard as miracles. The history you have in front of you today you do not regard as history. The statement that you make "I know I wouldn't", interestingly is the exact same thing that Peter said to Jesus in Matthew 26 "Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you". And Jesus had said to him before the rooster crows he will disown Him three times. And Peter did. It amazes me how the Word speaks even today.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
Actually, that post was totally a quote from John W. Loftus. None of my words at all. Did you actually understand what I wrote? I was showing how the Israelites constant disobedience was because the events didn't transpire the way we read them in Exodus, otherwise they wouldn't have immediately turned back to their idols.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 actually, that post was directed to John W Loftus, since you quoted him. And I actually understood what he wrote, though I wholeheartedly disagree with him. Surely you have your own opinion rather than quoting a famous atheist and his theory.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
ookay... you did write, "the statement that YOU make", but anyways I think he has some plausible theories, but the point is we may never know what "really happened". The story has of the plagues and the exodus has irreconcilable discrepancies so we know somethings not right.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 irreconcilable discrepancies meaning things that are unimaginable, or meaning things that are historically inaccurate, or verses that contradict each other? All of these "discrepancies" should have already been clarified by bible theologians, go look it up. As for me, it doesn't matter because this debate, as well as debates about evolution, the old earth/new earth issue and abortion and so on... is irreconcilable and will probably never reach a conclusion.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
Off the top of my head... I was thinking of the plagues of Egypt story where "all" the cattle of the Egyptians died in one plague and "magically reappeared" only to be hit by the next plague. Also, the descriptions of the size of the fleeing Israelite tribe are completely out of whack and reflect population numbers from a later time in their history. The Israelites are starved in one account of the exodus, but are shown sacrificing plenty of cattle and goats in another account.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
"Our debate", which hasn't even reached the message box, will never reach a conclusion because we're only talking concepts not showing many specific verses and examples. If you could read the book I recommended on my channel page by Andrew Benson, you would see an in-depth analysis of the Bible's evolution of belief and origins. Otherwise, I would be willing to send you some info via. message.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 Second point. True, but in terms of your tone, voice and point of reference, "demands" carries a negative, unjust or unfair connotation, whereas as shown in the video, "requires" would be a better word choice with a more objective tone of argument. Minor point, can be overlooked.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
@kaizersabre
Well, yes, I do tend to use words with a negative connotation, since from my perspective it IS unjust. A person becomes a Christian the moment he/she begins to see themselves as fallen, sinful creatures deserving of God's wrath. On the other hand, I first question whether or not this premise is true at all. I believe that our life here is a gift (if God exists) and we certainly don't "deserve" anything from God, but neither do we deserve punishment, just for being born human.
meangreen4321 1 year ago
@meangreen4321 I understand where you're coming from, and I quite agree that life is a gift. It's a chance to live life and make your own choices, and of course we didn't deserve this in the first place. Once I thought like you, that it was unfair that I was born sinful, and then made to face the reality of approaching an eternal doom. Still, I realized that even though I was "forced" to be sinful, I have my life, this freedom of choice to turn that sinfulness around into righteousness.
kaizersabre 1 year ago
Praise the Lord!
dakid86able 1 year ago
I love this it really breaks down the Gospel bit by it!
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Mr190673 1 year ago
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Paintball4ANT2 1 year ago
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Paintball4ANT2 1 year ago
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chuckyoo 1 year ago
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theitmoo1 1 year ago
TO EVERYONE:
If your mission is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to All Nations, then I encourage everyone to feel free to save, share, post, embed, download or upload THIS VIDEO and/or ALL VIDEOS I have posted on YouTube, WITH and/or WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. Let's spread the message of "The Gospel" to the world and defend "The Gospel" that Jesus shed his precious blood for. Thank You & May God bless you!
~GMDOCNICE
GMDOCNICE 1 year ago 18
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Mr190673 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE
the Lord bless you.
09265698478 8 months ago
PLZZZZ TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FACEBOOK !!!!
papeboi 1 year ago
Good video!
JazzyJofLA 1 year ago
@GMDOCNICE I can't wait either! I'll see ya there! lol
GodSheLoves 1 year ago
Now I can get with this.
digitalflava 1 year ago
Great video my friend-
God bless and I'll see you at the top!!!
thekid26000 1 year ago