"TheMrPangloss why are you posting THE JOO'S ARE DIRTY VERMIN you greasy arse wipe"
Nah! This is what you jarringly repeat over and over again. A fabricated allegation for smearing.
It is clear to me, LordGodOfMery aka "MissyPANGLOSS" or whatever, that it its actually YOU who slander the Jewish ethnicity. I can imagine how an intellectual leftist Jew would react seeing how you use the Holocaust, a murder, in the defence of another murder, that of civilians by the RAF Bomber Command.
its funny how everyone focuses on germany and its war crimes, yet everyone passes an eye to the fact that the allies completley wiped this city out and killed thousands. has anybody noticed that the americans dropped two ATOMIC bombs on cities filled with innocent people? Or how bout the fact that russian officers odered there men to rape german women to enstill fear? ignorant, stupid people in this world
@Ideazonqa And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs. Thus the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs were dropped to demonstrate the power of the weapon to the Soviet. The cold war had already begun.
Dresden was similar demonstration. It was POLITICAL in nature, not at all military bombing.
All these three orgies of massacre were war crimes and crimes against humanity.
@TheMrPangloss ''And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs. Thus the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs were dropped to demonstrate the power of the weapon to the Soviet. The cold war had already begun.''
This is your opinion. There is no evidence that Japan was ready to surrender. More lies from YT's premiere Nazi apologist. PS When are you launching 'Osama is innocent' campaign?
"And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs....."
It is hard to defend that statement because
a) After the first A-bomb, the Japanese cabinet had people who wanted to continue the war because ' the Americans probably had only one bomb of that kind'
b) After the second bomb and the Emperor's decision to surrender, par of the military revolted because they really, REALLY wanted to keep fighting.
I have sources which testify repeated peace petitions from May to August 1945. They are first-hand sources presented in an article. Want me to quote them?
Google this - in quotes "We will do nothing but press on to the bitter end to bring about a successful completion of the war" .
That's Prime Minister Suzuki's public statement on July 30, after Japan had been warned of "utter destruction"
And yes, I am interested in hearing your references that Japan had realistic peace proposals - not a "defeat" where Japan gets to keep the countries it had invaded.
So, mardonius12345. These are serious efforts from the part of Japan.
Then, not only the fact that Japan was ready to peace before Aug 1945, there's another issue too.
How can you explain that even though the scientists of the Manhattan project recommended an uninhabited area from Japan to demonstrate the power of the a-bomb, the govt. of Truman dropped it into a city?
I'd say that the "product" had to be "tested" on a living target.
Sorry to appear tiresome - but I can't let you handwave through this one. Your assertion was this - "And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs....."
That statement of yours is not true; and I have given my arguments to show it is not true; and you have not given any reason for anyone to think otherwise.
If one studies the method of the RAF night raids alone, that the RAF assisted a war crime of which Churchill's Government was responsible. In a larger context it can be proven by:
(1) conventions: the Hague 1899, 1907 and 1923, and League of Nations 1938;
(2) F.D.Roosevelt's appeal to not target civilians;
(3) Trenchardian air war doctrine - the RAF in Mesopotamia killing civs;
The World was a different kind of place back in those days and most Whites who lived in countries that became the Allies were not very visionary and had no idea of what society would be like decades later. Many of those White people who lived during WW II and were still around years later have stated they would never have supported the Allied effort if they only knew how degenerate things would become. As our World deteriorates Nationalist Parties are now growing again.
"Hitler was not a genuine threat straight out of the Pangloss whiskey bottle"
Another parallel of Hitler and his Nazi cronies is the Soviet. The Bolsheviks were raised to power to be dependent of these industrialists and to keep the country in tyranny.
What the western establishments least wanted was that Germany and Russia would prosper in democracy and be led by civilized and competent politicians.
The west wanted the maniac Hitler and the psychopath Stalin.
@TheMrPangloss "The west wanted the maniac Hitler and the psychopath Stalin": Do you have ANY real reason to think this or is it just an attitude formulated over time? Given that the West - out of a lack of willpower borne from unease over the Versailles Treaty, plus not wanting to repeat the terrible ordeal of the First World War & also seeing Hitler as a bulwark against communism - allowed Hitler to rise to power before then going to enormous lengths to stop him, it is very inconsistent.
@EvilSirJasper Hitler's rise to power, like the rise of the Bolsheviks in Russia, served the interests of the highest Anglo-U.S. establishment.
That establishment saw dictatorship in Europe as a means to curb its economical growth. Dictatorship is always a controlled economy and it also curbs all innovativeness.
Britain and the U.S. both favored the Falangists in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Nazis in Germany.
@EvilSirJasper The Soviet and the 3rd Reich were parallel in many cases - and behind them one finds the same U.S./ British international banks and industrialists. Particularly Ford, General electric and Standard Oil are of central importance as industrialists while the bankers were from both the U.S. capital and the "Royalist" (i.e. British affiliated) capital.
The 3rd Reich and Soviet were simply made in order to hamper the well-being of Germany and Russia, to control them and to depopulate.
'In short: the two world wars were DELIBERATE, CAREFULLY PLANNED AND MEANT TO GUARANTEE THE ANGLO-U.S. WORLD HEGEMONY.'
You keep posting these claims but have not been able to provide any credible evidence to prove your theories. So they remain just conspiracy theorist nonsense.
@LordGodofMercy The US did not see itself as an ally of any country until WW2. It was so isolationist no US government could have survived the next election if it had tried to enter WW2. US Admiral King was so Anglo-phobic he had to be told to curb has attitude towards his new ally. Henry Ford saw war as a danger to his company. After WW1 the US planned to become the worlds dominant naval power but Republican politicians created the Washington treaty instead to save money.
@TheMrPangloss ' In short: the two world wars were DELIBERATE, CAREFULLY PLANNED AND MEANT TO GUARANTEE THE ANGLO-U.S. WORLD HEGEMONY.' - oh, sorry, I replied to your comment on another video, I wasn't aware how completely insane you were. Plese fuck off and die you credulous confused conspiracy-theory spouting wannabe-nazi fuckstick. I hope you die in a flaming car crash. Me and my jewish banker masonic friends will laugh at you in our NWO chalet in Switzerland. Mwhahahahahaaaa etc etc. Cunt.
@maureenOWW Do you really think that ordinary people are behind war? WW1 was just a competition between the heads of state that were basically one extended German family. I am sure that you knew that Kaiser Wilhelm and The British King were first cousins. Think what you want but even the civil war in the U.S. was not about slavery. It was an economic competition of different regions. The south had a close relationship with England. They traded cotton for finished goods for a mutual benefit
"Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr I. Gulag Archipelago (1973)."
Who cares shit of this quote?
So Aleksandr Solzenitsyn is a liar? What have you got to say of the 19,000 plus Soviet citizens that were starved to death in Finnish concentration camps? 1000 executed by Finnish KZ guards.
4000 women and children deliberately starved to death, while the Finnish KZ guards stuffed their faces. Perhaps Solzenitsyn is making it all up. I think you owe an apology!
@LordGodofMercy omg more solzhenitzen quotes "the witchburner general" -"24,000 soviet citizens died" -can you clarify this. Who were these people? I thought the ussr invaded finland-so what were 24000 citizens doing there?
@toonmag50 Finland invaded East Karelia (Soviet territory) during the continuation war. Then they started putting the Russian population in concentration camps. Then things got really ugly on the civilian population.
I thought the total Soviet POW deaths under Finnish control were put @ 19000. Perhaps the 4000 civilian’s deaths have been included to make 24000. And has been rounded up to 25000, But hey what’s 1000 deaths when playing immoral equivalency poker?
It's hard to justify the attacks on Dresden, Hamburg, and the Atomic bombs at this stage of history. But at the time, People felt mortally threatened by the Nazis. The Nazis used air power to bomb Guernica in Spain, Madrid, Coventry, Rotterdam.
Wars escalate, but one shouldn't feel glad to see human suffering , unless it's Hitler and his circle.
@paolosilv Agreed. 60% Germans didn't vote for the mean Austrian and many of those who did ended up regretting it after he eliminated all opposition and recruited thugs as brown shirts and in the Gestapo. Every nation has thugs in it who are easy prey to prejudice., yes even GB! To say that we got our revenge many times over with excessive raids on smal towns & cities and killed millions of innocents [ children, the disabled, refugees etc.] is not to be pro Nazi or a Holocaust denier.
@paolosilv "People felt mortally threatened by the Nazis."
At the point when Dresden was bombed, there were other motives than that. The west wanted to show Stalin their air power.
" The Nazis used air power to bomb Guernica in Spain, Madrid, Coventry, Rotterdam."
My friend. It is right to remember Guernica. But I find it appalling that people here refuse to remember the Iraqi and Indian villagers who were bombed by the British colonial administration, using white phosphorus, in the 20s.
DOH! Again no source. The number is 4000 according to "Suur Suomen Kahdet Kasvot". And I have already told that Finland has remembered these victims.
How many died after Stalin took over in Karelia? Not an "interesting" topic eh? And what what happened BEFORE the Finnish occupation. I think that Stalin interned Edward Gylling, President of Karelia and killed him.
The Finns were no "liberators" but Stalin the "liberator" killed hundreds of thousands.
@TheMrPangloss Wow! You are moving your Finniish war crime denial to greater hights. The 4000 you refer to are the Civilians (Women and Children) The 19000 were Russian POW's.
I know only very little on the topic. And you don't give me reliable sources. How can I "admit" something I really don't know.
And you don't know either.
Moreover, your motives are dubious because you use these "claims" personally against me. You don't let the facts speak up themselves but you attack me personally.
That testifies your lack of civilization and intellect.
Well from someone that claims the British need educating about the 'Skeltons' in their closet that's a rum answer. Using conspiracy publications as fact shows a total lack of civilisation and intellect. Surely the Russian demonstators demanding recognition of those crimes were reported in the Finnish media?
Or is all this just a ruse to create a smokescreen? LOL
@LordGodofMercy "Surely the Russian demonstators demanding recognition of those crimes were reported in the Finnish media?"
What about the 51M killed by Stalin? And what about the 62 M people killed by the Soviet from the collectivization to the 90s? Do you think that these tens of millions should be acknowledged?
As to the RAF bombed campaign. A "minor" RAF raid alone against Pforzheim in Schwarzwald claimed 17000 victims in 20 minutes? Should the British media remember these victims too?
@LordGodofMercy "Surely the Russian demonstators demanding recognition of those crimes were reported in the Finnish media?"
Russian demonstrators? When and where? Mind to give me facts?
Then tell me why we Finns don't demonstrate. It was the Soviet which attacked THE NEUTRAL Finland in late Nov. 1939 WITH NO ULTIMATUM. We surely would have more reasons to demonstrate but most just would not.
The Winter War begun with a bombardment of housing areas in Helsinki.
"Using conspiracy publications as fact shows a total lack of civilisation and intellect. " I cut and pasted this phrase from you last post you dizzy Jackass.
I know you are a devout disciple of Prof HwSShite PanGrossliar. Are you studying at his Helsinki Institute of Nazi apology? He has been promoted to Dean of faculty. The course books can be found in the conspiracy theory section at any crap book shop.
@LordGodofMercy Congrats-you seem to have lasted a day without quoting alex sold-a nit-son -perhaps another religious quirk to use could be Barabus or Mother Theresa,who I understand was a sergeant in the British Army in India.
@LordGodofMercy it"s called dog -as in a bottle of dog,and certainly not drunk by sold-a-nit .He prefered obscure French vintage sherry-filtered carefully through his Rasputin-like beard
@toonmag50 So what's your agenda? Sold-a-nit as you call him went doolally so therefore his ‘73 writings on the East Karelia war crimes are void. You’re not a follower of PanGroSS are you? Mmmm you are beginning to whiff a bit of denial. Surely you’re just arseing around.
@LordGodofMercy god god man -you ve been quoting the old duffer all over the place and now you say he went mad -you re on the ale now boy-get it down ya -it"s doing you good. five weeks of quotes and now madness-dont worry you ll be sober soon,and you re hero will be back in town
There I was going through the day without quoting Solzhenitsyn and dammit if you didn’t make me mention his name. You win hands down. He got up Stalin’s nose so that’s good enough for me. He was 89 when he died so he deserved to sip French Vintage sherry (I thought sherry came from Spain?) through that beard of his. Anyway enough of you Geordie jolly japes! I’m sure there are others for you to play Mr Teasy Weasy with.
@helenheather If you read LodGodOfMercy's posts and ponder how he treats anybody with whom he disagrees, and if you also notice that he uses the 20+ clones, "blockthehood", "mutley 0777", "MissyPANGLOSS". "krautkiller" & c., you will understand that Toonmag50 and I don't treat him with silk gloves.
How do you explain this? Every time I respond your posts, some of the users "mutley0777", "blackthehood", "MissyPANGLOSS", "MrPangloss4paska", "yogifalk4bitch" & c. pop up from somewhere.
They are like "cavalry always in time" following you. They also use exactly similar expressions as you.
"Clone slander"? Really? People here are not stupid - but you are.
@helenheather -well I do realise my comments are getting a little brusque, I was finally convinced by that deco-bloke that long winded neo academic replies are just were a waste of time-the final straw was over him denying the Irish genocide during the potato blight.
@TheMrPangloss I find the British post imperial generation very difficult to deal with.Decon stated that the potato blight in Ireland was a natural disaster and confirmed by the fact that Irish nationalist did not complain.-his words
How about this. eh? -He just completely sweeps over the fact that Ireland was governed directly from London
1.5 million dead 4 million exudus-and he fails to answer the simple question of whether Ireland would have survived better in charge of their own affairs
@toonmag50 He is a cunning fellow. And just FYI, you can give him first-hand sources and good researches on the topic, but he will never, I say, NEVER, admit.
The only way of defeating him is to overwhelm him with facts. And when the case is strong, don't hesitate to repeat the evidences. Chase him to the corner. After that he starts calling by names, and the others who look will laugh. That is the only strategy with him.
He lacks all moral scruples and does not complain about the clones & c.
@toonmag50 indeed they don't and I do understand that when pseudo intellectuals sart bullshitting and throwing a pile of semantic crap about , it does tend to make one sling low life bleedin' expletives back!
I was in London during the blitz, I remember the saturation bombing of Conventry, but what we got from the Germans is nothing to that given to the German people and their cities - I am disgusted to call myself British, if the British condone this sort of bombing of innocent German civillians.
@Francis1930 No ordinary Briton or German wanted this. But after it happened strange myths had to be created to protect those who were behind it. People were told time after time that some others would "deserve" what was unhuman for the others.
We need to ponder who exactly did this and why. No collective guilt applies, not to Germans, nor to Britons or any other nationality. We find the villains from movements, politicians and the elite of the greatest wealth and power.
@Francis1930 wow- Another Brit who knows the truth! My mother was in the Blitz too- siad you coul dset your watch by the punctuality of the raids. Have you read 'On the Natural Hiostory of Destruction@ by W G Sebald? Tough stuff, but it should be on the reading lists in all GB High Schools. Nice to know you exist.
Who will be the next enemy that the rulers of government and corporations create? Will it be the Chinese and Russians vs. the Americans and British? War is ALWAYS about money and power...never about right and wrong or human well being.
‘News for you, Cameron will cut social services and welfare spendings- seems you will have to find a job.’
I see Chancellor Angela Merkel announced that multi culturlism is not working in Germany. She announced it to the ’Youth wing’ of her party. Sounds familiar? Come on! Even you have to see the ironic humour it that one.
@bolshevikML Antifa at large..nothing else, no historical wisdom, just hate and fear against a new democracy...or maybe like Northwood, staged comments in order to keep up some harsh feelings...
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The germans have dare to put the jews out from all keypositions 1933! That was the answer and the britgoys and amigoys have make a goood job as goood gojims! As thanx the masta have you now ruined too! haha very goood!!!
Just for those people who don't understand what happens there below in footages.
The large flashes are blockbuster bombs (cookies), and those little dots of lights are phosphorus bombs and gasoline canisters.
The cookies first blow out the buildings which become sort of chimneys, then they are lit by phosphorus and gasoline jelly.
When on skin the burning phosphorus burns up to the bone, it cannot be extinquished. It makes people bundles of bleeding flesh until they die with spasms.
The bombing of German cities was a justifiable act in the liberation of Europe. Before the bombings the German people would never consider unconditional surrender, Well done Sir Arthur Harris
@blockthehood LOL you must be pretty insane, if you call the subjugation of Europe under the iron boot of communist dictator STALIN a "liberation", hahaha
And your RAF-Cowards helped liberating children and women, by cowardly starting a Firestorm and sucking children & women into it, 3 miles high up into the air, into the centre of Churchill's Phosphorous-Fire.
Harris, Churchill and Stalin = most cowardly and wicked Massmurderers in human history.
This ally propaganda crap will not be commented by me at all...just so much..the germans today didnt celebrate the bombings of V1, V2..and such..cause we know it was a time ruled by a madman...but there are so many ignorant asses which do celebrate the bombings of London, Coventry, Dresden, Guernica, Hamburg, Wielun, Cologne that I really do ask myself....what is that all about...some pro-allies still are kicking a corpse and the corpse (the NeoNazis) still are poluting the world with insanity11
@grazyarnie "...but there are so many ignorant asses which do celebrate the bombings of London, Coventry, Dresden, Guernica, Hamburg, "
Those are stupid people. It is perhaps because these delicate questions have not been discussed properly. I hope that some day all parties will tell honestly what they were up to. Only that way we can get rid of the ghosts from the past.
that might be true, but the bombing of german cities is most of the time forgotten or justified by the fight against the Nazis and the front lines....therefore its needed to build a Nazi german picture in order to justify the killer bombings....Our jews were deported...yes, they were discrimated...yes...but we as the rest of Europe never believed what they had to face...killing childrens and women or innocent and unarmed men isnt our nature...but some try to give us that face
@grazyarnie "..killing childrens and women or innocent and unarmed men isnt our nature...but some try to give us that face "
There is no entire nation which would be "inherently evil" so as to say. Killing in general is against the Human nature but killing children in particular is something totally against human nature.
The "collective guilt" and the propagandist picture of the Germans as savages is the tactics of shifting the focus from the essential to the unessential - a smokescreen.
yep..I totally agree...and that has nothing to do with forgetting the shoa or the bombings done by germans...which is always so much liked to be accused against people not understanding the mass bombings against german towns...
Its not the deed I do acuse...its the reluctance to admit that it was not necessary to bomb civilians in order to win the war.....all heroes the allies have, and they have much, is turning in his grave when he reads "german towns were primary targets"
@grazyarnie I think that the essential question is two-fold:
(1) Where did Hitler get all the funds for the rocket-like rise of the country from the ashes to glamour between 1933 and 1939?
(2) Why was Hitler treated so much better than the preceding democracy? The Weimar Republic had to suffer in unemployement and hunger due to the insane reparations policy from which Hitler in his turn was totally exempt.
I dont know these answers cause the answer would force me to use sources well known as conspirancy related...but have the firm believe that Hitler had supporters even outside Germany...
I believe the world waited for an idiot to start a war...Pilsudsky tried to invade Germany but was called back by the French and British.....so yes I believe our european nations were used by big mighty forces who are invisible and untouchable and who are international
@grazyarnie "I dont know these answers cause the answer would force me to use sources well known as conspirancy related.."
It is difficult. There are serious lacunae in history writing. If look at the map of pre-1933 world you see the Weimar Republic in Europe and the British Empire which still is an Empire where the sun doesn't set. The U.S. and the Soviet were her true rivals, both of them, and Germany without or with the Nazis a pawn.
well the US is a pretty well known special thing when it comes to WWX....
I have many astoneshing facts what the US government tried to realize against their own nation just to justify military actions...wohhooo not funny...
the world was big enough to share between the british and the french, but as Germany tried to participate in colonization...sudenly the french and the british were unique...unique against the third party called Germany
@grazyarnie "sudenly the french and the british were unique...unique against the third party called Germany "
The Berlin-Baghdad railway was a red blanket to the British Empire before 1914. Similarly, the organized German labor unions and tapering production rates of steel.
Note that Germany's old allies Austria and Turkey were both chopped to pieces after ww1.
The greatest fear was that the Tczaric Russia and Imperial Germany would get close partners in an economic and cultural sense.
@TheMrPangrosstruthtwiste Pure hypothetical fantasy. What story are you stooges working on now. Do you really expect not be accused of being a Nazi apologist when you go to great lengths to fabricate all this half truth nonsense? Come on what's really eating you? You can't honestly think that anyone apart from Elberiver would be taken in by your tenuous threading and highly selective montage of events .
I see you HwSShite the denial monster and your gullible sidekick Robihoodwinker are singing from the same song sheet as Elberiver now. So the Three SStooges have finally reformed. What little comedy routine are you three going to come up with now? Who is Moe? Who’s Larry? And who is Curly? It would be fun guessing If it were not for the fact that HSShite is a callous war crime denial monster, hypocrite and slanderer. Have fun lacing buttercups and daisies into each others hair eh! Comrades!
@LordGodofMercy Yell yell and YELL! Maybe people will listen to you. But those who think exactly like you won't count. You are far too "Limey", you see.
@TheMrPangloss AKA HwSShitler and one of the Three SStooges. At least I don't have to change my identity on Youtube. Even an arrogant hypocrite like you came to realise that Hwschilt became synonymous for obsessed anti Allied Nazi apologist. What does 'Limey' mean? Is that supposed to be insulting? Your bombastic slander of Allied air crew is insulting. But there again you are in agreement with Elberiver now. A nice little Menage a tois you've got going eh!.
@LordGodofMercy "But there again you are in agreement with Elberiver now."
If I sometimes agree with him, that's not a big deal. Instead the whole personality of yours is like Elbe's. He is smarter than you though, but you both are loonies and that's what identical in you and him.
@TheMrPangloss Of course you agree with him! You are reading from the same script! What gags are you and the other two members of the The Three SStooges dreaming up now? Tell me more about how Britain invented Hitler to attack Russia, that was a good gag. Wasn’t that was from the old act when you called yourself HwShite. Classic comedy routine. A round of applause. I bet you will be telling that one again and again and again and again….
I agree even with you, for example that we both think that Hitler was a criminal. Think about that! I AGREE EVEN WITH YOU.
But that is an obvious thing. Anybody who has any sense of right and wrong doesn't approve of Nazism.
That you preach about that here is no big deal then, and it is even more ridiculous that a man of meagre intellect and lacking morality himself, like you, my whining wimp, tries to teach "morals" to the others. Pathetic!!
If one compiles your posts he sees that there's nothing there, NOTHING. That's not even funny but pitiful. You don't have anything to say, unless that people should be "nice" to the British and "respect" the Empire.
And those who don't behave like you say are "Nazis" or whatever.
Nobody likes you here, and nobody in the real life either. You lie about people who say something unpleasant that your don't want to hear. And that's only YOUR problem.
@LordGodofMercy "Tell me more about how Britain invented Hitler to attack Russia, that was a good gag."
Check online Anthony Sutton's works how the western funders supported both Hitler and Stalin. Something harmful had to be done to the Continent to guarantee the Anglo-Saxon world domination. Pity that it costed Britain the Empire.
@TheMrPangloss So Britain implements these policies as you claim. Then Britain declares war on Germany to aide Poland and to halt Hitler’s eastward aspirations. With the very real and dangerous risk of war with the then ally of Nazi Germany the Soviet Union. Britain then goes on to fight a war which bankrupts the country and for it to lose its Empire? Do you seriously believe that anyone to taken in by that? That is a classic Three Stooges plot well done…
@LordGodofMercy "Then Britain declares war on Germany to aide Poland and to halt Hitler’s eastward aspirations."
If Hitler had not allied with the Soviet, Britain would not have allied with Poland. The reason for first allying with Poland and cheating it (selling its eastern half to staling) THE SOVIET-NAZI ALLIANCE IN AUGUST 1939. And Britain allied with Poland as soon as she knew about this alliance.
And this catastrophic, UNANTICIPATED, alliance was the "casus belli", not helping Poland.
@TheMrPangloss And to add, the Anglo-British establishment wanted nothing else more than to annihilate the two most resourceful countries of the continent: Germany and Russia. The Russians lost most of people in ww2 and the original plan was to annihilate Germany altogether.
EArlier, the west could have prevented the rise of the Bolsheviks, and when one scrutinizes the dire events in the Weimar Republic, it is clear that the democracy was destroyed there and the harmful Fascism favored.
@LordGodofMercy "Britain then goes on to fight a war which bankrupts the country and for it to lose its Empire?"
The British establishment didn't anticipate this. They were completely cheated and taken for a ride by the U.S. which, practically speaking, made the U.K. pay the costs of the war.
The blind hate against all German by the British Establishment was due to the economical growth in the late 19th century. The U.S. shrewdly used it for its own benefit.
@TheMrPangloss All hypothetical really. Why do you conveniently leave out France in all this piffle . Britain did not support Hitler. Britain even supported Finland against the Soviet Union until Finland allied er... sorry came to a convenient arrangement with Hitler. All this says more about you than it does about Britain. So Britain invented Fascism Good grief Whatever next.
Hitler was pampered, and yet, the British govt. knew exactly that he killed people in the KZs from the start, from 1933. And yet, it didn't listen to the anti-Nazi resistance which was active from 1933 on. Later the resistance was betrayed by Churchill to Gestapo in 1944.
@TheMrPangloss But every time someone has pointed out the shady behaviour of Finland in WW2 you report them. You hope that youtube will shut them up. The same way the Hitler Youth were encouraged to tell tales on people and the Gestapo would make them disappear. You have consistently made personal attacks on the Allied aircrews. Very unpleasant behaviour on your part.
@LordGodofMercy "Tell me more about how Britain invented Hitler to attack Russia, that was a good gag."
If you want to destroy a locality, instigate its dominating groups against each other. That's what Britain did for ages in a large scale. Are you saying that the ww2 made any exception? It hardly did. Britain was then the largest power in the world.
You are a simpleton if you don't understand this, and you are a clumsy cheater if you deny it. People here are not as stupid as you are.
@TheMrPangloss AKA Hwshite No need to prove to me that you are a callous Finnish War Crime Denial monster.
I know full well that you could white wash Finnish war crimes in the same way you twist events concerning any event concerning Britain and WW2. Do you not think this interest you have in British History and then selecting events to plump out your derogatory theories is obsessive? Perhaps even patholological ?
Why do you have to follow me everywhere. It is you who is hooked and obsessed. Only one syllable against your beloved British Empire which nobody misses and you go beserk losing your control. LMAO
@TheMrPangloss AKA hwshitsmearcampaigner. Why do you follow the RAF vids around posting your ridiculous smear campaign theories? I would find your truth twisting butchering of any fact related to the British WW2 campaign amusing, were it not for the fact that you are such a Finnish war crime denial monster.
@robinhood48 He claims to be 33 years. I don't think that his behaviour is normal of his age. But if he belongs to the degenerated British nobility which has cross-married for centuries, that can explain lots of his childish tantrums and other bizarre things in his behaviour.
@TheMrPangloss Well said! WW2 is so last century, but of course all the while fingers are pointed backwards towards our just fight against Nazis people are directed away from pointing fingers at American + British war mongering today in the Middle East- a war started without UN sanctions. I do hope that collective guilt is not shoved upon all Americans and Brits- many are against the war even the ones that VOTED FOR TONY BLAIR!
@MrSunlander "Bloody Gerry got a real bolloxing by the Mighty 8th and the RAF! "
Another racist retort worth reporting to the YT admins as hate speech against a nationality. Mr. Sunlander, you know damn well that, rightly, similar Antisemitic retorts will be reported too. Besides many German Jews (who were as German as any) died as well under these bombs.
Particularly the RAF night raids against civilians and simiar USAAC raids agaist Japan including the nukes were a crime against Humanity.
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Concentrated Roaring of piston engines is awesome, besides the horror of the bombs', rockets' and ammunitions' impact - they helped to transport.
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"TheMrPangloss why are you posting THE JOO'S ARE DIRTY VERMIN you greasy arse wipe"
Nah! This is what you jarringly repeat over and over again. A fabricated allegation for smearing.
It is clear to me, LordGodOfMery aka "MissyPANGLOSS" or whatever, that it its actually YOU who slander the Jewish ethnicity. I can imagine how an intellectual leftist Jew would react seeing how you use the Holocaust, a murder, in the defence of another murder, that of civilians by the RAF Bomber Command.
TheMrPangloss 8 months ago
TheMrPangloss why are you posting THE JOO'S ARE DIRTY VERMIN you greasy arse wipe
MissyPANGLOSS 8 months ago
its funny how everyone focuses on germany and its war crimes, yet everyone passes an eye to the fact that the allies completley wiped this city out and killed thousands. has anybody noticed that the americans dropped two ATOMIC bombs on cities filled with innocent people? Or how bout the fact that russian officers odered there men to rape german women to enstill fear? ignorant, stupid people in this world
Ideazonqa 9 months ago
@Ideazonqa indeed......
dividednation44 9 months ago
@Ideazonqa And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs. Thus the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs were dropped to demonstrate the power of the weapon to the Soviet. The cold war had already begun.
Dresden was similar demonstration. It was POLITICAL in nature, not at all military bombing.
All these three orgies of massacre were war crimes and crimes against humanity.
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
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@TheMrPangloss ''And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs. Thus the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs were dropped to demonstrate the power of the weapon to the Soviet. The cold war had already begun.''
This is your opinion. There is no evidence that Japan was ready to surrender. More lies from YT's premiere Nazi apologist. PS When are you launching 'Osama is innocent' campaign?
LordGodofMercy 9 months ago
@TheMrPangloss
"And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs....."
It is hard to defend that statement because
a) After the first A-bomb, the Japanese cabinet had people who wanted to continue the war because ' the Americans probably had only one bomb of that kind'
b) After the second bomb and the Emperor's decision to surrender, par of the military revolted because they really, REALLY wanted to keep fighting.
mardonius12345 9 months ago
@mardonius12345 And your sources are?
I have sources which testify repeated peace petitions from May to August 1945. They are first-hand sources presented in an article. Want me to quote them?
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
@TheMrPangloss
Google this - in quotes "We will do nothing but press on to the bitter end to bring about a successful completion of the war" .
That's Prime Minister Suzuki's public statement on July 30, after Japan had been warned of "utter destruction"
And yes, I am interested in hearing your references that Japan had realistic peace proposals - not a "defeat" where Japan gets to keep the countries it had invaded.
mardonius12345 9 months ago
@mardonius12345 I will introduce you another article in "Humanist" August 7 2005 by Chris Morton. The title:
"The Japanese offered to surrender before America dropped Atomic Bombs on them!"
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
@mardonius12345 Christ Norton "Humanist" Aug 7 2005:
"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima
and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan.
The Japanese were almost defeated and ready to surrender...in being the
first to use it, we...adopted an ethical standard common to the
barbarians of the Dark Ages."
---Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy,
Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during World War II
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
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@mardonius12345 Some peace petitions.
Here are a few of the Japanese attempts to end the war in July, before the nukes on 6th and 7th August 1945.
July 11: "make clear to Russia... We have no intention of annexing or
taking possession of the areas which we have been occupying as a result
of the war; we hope to terminate the war".
July 12: "it is His Majesty's heart's desire to see the swift
termination of the war".
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
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@mardonius12345 July 13: "I sent Ando, Director of the Bureau of Political Affairs to
communicate to the [Soviet] Ambassador that His Majesty desired to
dispatch Prince Konoye as special envoy, carrying with him the personal
letter of His Majesty stating the Imperial wish to end the war" (for
above items, see: U.S. Dept. of State, Potsdam 1, pg. 873-879).
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
@mardonius12345 July 18: "Negotiations... necessary... for soliciting Russia's good
offices in concluding the war and also in improving the basis for
negotiations with England and America." (Magic-Diplomatic Summary,
7/18/45, Records of the National Security Agency, Magic Files, RG 457,
Box 18, National Archives).
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
@mardonius12345 (6) July 22: "Special Envoy Konoye's mission ... in obedience to the
Imperial Will... request assistance in bringing about an end to
the war through ... the Soviet Government." The July
21st communication from Togo also noted that a conference between the
Emperor's emissary... and the Soviet Union, was sought... for contacting the U.S. and Great Britain (Magic-Diplomatic
Summary, 7/22/45, Records of the National Security Agency, Magic Files,... National Archives).
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
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So, mardonius12345. These are serious efforts from the part of Japan.
Then, not only the fact that Japan was ready to peace before Aug 1945, there's another issue too.
How can you explain that even though the scientists of the Manhattan project recommended an uninhabited area from Japan to demonstrate the power of the a-bomb, the govt. of Truman dropped it into a city?
I'd say that the "product" had to be "tested" on a living target.
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
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@TheMrPangloss
Sorry to appear tiresome - but I can't let you handwave through this one. Your assertion was this - "And what makes it even worse was that Japan was ready for peace long before the a-bombs....."
That statement of yours is not true; and I have given my arguments to show it is not true; and you have not given any reason for anyone to think otherwise.
mardonius12345 9 months ago
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If one studies the method of the RAF night raids alone, that the RAF assisted a war crime of which Churchill's Government was responsible. In a larger context it can be proven by:
(1) conventions: the Hague 1899, 1907 and 1923, and League of Nations 1938;
(2) F.D.Roosevelt's appeal to not target civilians;
(3) Trenchardian air war doctrine - the RAF in Mesopotamia killing civs;
(4) Air war doctrines 1940 and 1942;
(5) "Dehousing Paper'"1942
(6) "Gas Memo" 1944
(7) "Dresden Memo" 1945.
TheMrPangloss 11 months ago
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There is enough material to prove the RAF bombing campaign against German and also other civilians (Italian, French & c.) criminal.
(1) The international conventions: the Hague 1899, 1907 and 1923, and League of Nations 1938;
(2) F.D.Roosevelt's appeal to not target civilians;
(3) The Douhetian / Trenchardian air war doctrine - the RAF in Mesopotamia (killing civs);
(4) Air war doctrines 1940 and 1942;
(5) the "Dehousing Paper'"
(6) the "Gas Memo" 1944
(7) the "Dresden Memo" 1945.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
The World was a different kind of place back in those days and most Whites who lived in countries that became the Allies were not very visionary and had no idea of what society would be like decades later. Many of those White people who lived during WW II and were still around years later have stated they would never have supported the Allied effort if they only knew how degenerate things would become. As our World deteriorates Nationalist Parties are now growing again.
MrBEB123 1 year ago
What years was this?
AbuAvital 1 year ago
@AbuAvital Likely March or April 1945.
Mcplkelly 1 year ago
"TheMrPangloss is one big lie The prick He is the biggest Nazi apologist on YT"
The more I read these insults and lies against my person, the more convinced I am that my posts are important.
These insults aim to harm me and the poster wishes me to shut up.
But I am not a software, I am a person. The poster cannot shut me up hypocritically using Holocaust, Antisemitism & c.as tools for manipulation.
He is here for his ego trips, not for defending the humanity.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
"Hitler was not a genuine threat straight out of the Pangloss whiskey bottle"
Another parallel of Hitler and his Nazi cronies is the Soviet. The Bolsheviks were raised to power to be dependent of these industrialists and to keep the country in tyranny.
What the western establishments least wanted was that Germany and Russia would prosper in democracy and be led by civilized and competent politicians.
The west wanted the maniac Hitler and the psychopath Stalin.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss "The west wanted the maniac Hitler and the psychopath Stalin": Do you have ANY real reason to think this or is it just an attitude formulated over time? Given that the West - out of a lack of willpower borne from unease over the Versailles Treaty, plus not wanting to repeat the terrible ordeal of the First World War & also seeing Hitler as a bulwark against communism - allowed Hitler to rise to power before then going to enormous lengths to stop him, it is very inconsistent.
EvilSirJasper 1 year ago
@EvilSirJasper Hitler's rise to power, like the rise of the Bolsheviks in Russia, served the interests of the highest Anglo-U.S. establishment.
That establishment saw dictatorship in Europe as a means to curb its economical growth. Dictatorship is always a controlled economy and it also curbs all innovativeness.
Britain and the U.S. both favored the Falangists in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Nazis in Germany.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@EvilSirJasper The Soviet and the 3rd Reich were parallel in many cases - and behind them one finds the same U.S./ British international banks and industrialists. Particularly Ford, General electric and Standard Oil are of central importance as industrialists while the bankers were from both the U.S. capital and the "Royalist" (i.e. British affiliated) capital.
The 3rd Reich and Soviet were simply made in order to hamper the well-being of Germany and Russia, to control them and to depopulate.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@EvilSirJasper In short: the two world wars were DELIBERATE, CAREFULLY PLANNED AND MEANT TO GUARANTEE THE ANGLO-U.S. WORLD HEGEMONY.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
'In short: the two world wars were DELIBERATE, CAREFULLY PLANNED AND MEANT TO GUARANTEE THE ANGLO-U.S. WORLD HEGEMONY.'
You keep posting these claims but have not been able to provide any credible evidence to prove your theories. So they remain just conspiracy theorist nonsense.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy The US did not see itself as an ally of any country until WW2. It was so isolationist no US government could have survived the next election if it had tried to enter WW2. US Admiral King was so Anglo-phobic he had to be told to curb has attitude towards his new ally. Henry Ford saw war as a danger to his company. After WW1 the US planned to become the worlds dominant naval power but Republican politicians created the Washington treaty instead to save money.
binaway 2 months ago
@TheMrPangloss ' In short: the two world wars were DELIBERATE, CAREFULLY PLANNED AND MEANT TO GUARANTEE THE ANGLO-U.S. WORLD HEGEMONY.' - oh, sorry, I replied to your comment on another video, I wasn't aware how completely insane you were. Plese fuck off and die you credulous confused conspiracy-theory spouting wannabe-nazi fuckstick. I hope you die in a flaming car crash. Me and my jewish banker masonic friends will laugh at you in our NWO chalet in Switzerland. Mwhahahahahaaaa etc etc. Cunt.
maureenOWW 9 months ago
@maureenOWW "Plese fuck off and die you credulous confused conspiracy-theory spouting wannabe-nazi fuckstick."
If you know the history so well, Maureen, you can post better than this. Please don't patronize people who think differently than you.
Your post is a load of excrement, and it was meant to be so.
No comment.
If you request, I can give you sources which are respectable and have nothing to do with "Jewish conspiracy" & c. bullshit.
Otherwise we can stop communicating now.
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
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@maureenOWW "oh, sorry, I replied to your comment on another video,I wasn't aware how completely insane you were."
If you disagree with me, stick to facts, not feelings. There is also other way: keeping quiet.
But if you think that you can control me by labeling, insults, and yelling how worthless I am, you make a mistake.
My views are exactly as worthy as yours, Maureen, and I AM NOT A NAZI APOLOGIST OR AN ANTISEMITIC.
TheMrPangloss 9 months ago
@maureenOWW Do you really think that ordinary people are behind war? WW1 was just a competition between the heads of state that were basically one extended German family. I am sure that you knew that Kaiser Wilhelm and The British King were first cousins. Think what you want but even the civil war in the U.S. was not about slavery. It was an economic competition of different regions. The south had a close relationship with England. They traded cotton for finished goods for a mutual benefit
marinello6 9 months ago
@TheMrPangloss I do not need to lie, twist facts and distort events like you do.
Like all NWO cult members you seem to have a problem with paranoia.
Have you managed to find any evidence that the UK funded Hitler?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "I do not need to lie, twist facts and distort events like you do."
Yes you have to.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
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@TheMrPangloss I can list the lies you have told.
Can you list my lies?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss is one big lie The prick He is the biggest Nazi apologist on YT
MissyPANGLOSS 1 year ago
Mr Pangloss The Nazi loving Arse licking PRICK
blockthehood 1 year ago
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@blockthehood "Mr Pangloss The Nazi loving Arse licking PRICK."
How large is your vocabulary? 100 words?
And statements like this. Do you call this "debate", and do you expect to "win it" in this way? ROFL
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
Mr Pangloss The Neo Nazi cesspit
blockthehood 1 year ago
Droping thousands of tons of bombs on civilian targets, then claim it was glorious and an act of bravery: Tipically english.
solwen 1 year ago
@solwen What part of France do you come from? Is it Vichy?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@Mr panGroSSliar
"Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr I. Gulag Archipelago (1973)."
Who cares shit of this quote?
So Aleksandr Solzenitsyn is a liar? What have you got to say of the 19,000 plus Soviet citizens that were starved to death in Finnish concentration camps? 1000 executed by Finnish KZ guards.
4000 women and children deliberately starved to death, while the Finnish KZ guards stuffed their faces. Perhaps Solzenitsyn is making it all up. I think you owe an apology!
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy omg more solzhenitzen quotes "the witchburner general" -"24,000 soviet citizens died" -can you clarify this. Who were these people? I thought the ussr invaded finland-so what were 24000 citizens doing there?
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 Finland invaded East Karelia (Soviet territory) during the continuation war. Then they started putting the Russian population in concentration camps. Then things got really ugly on the civilian population.
I thought the total Soviet POW deaths under Finnish control were put @ 19000. Perhaps the 4000 civilian’s deaths have been included to make 24000. And has been rounded up to 25000, But hey what’s 1000 deaths when playing immoral equivalency poker?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@toonmag50 That should read 2300 rounded up to 24000 apolgies.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
It's hard to justify the attacks on Dresden, Hamburg, and the Atomic bombs at this stage of history. But at the time, People felt mortally threatened by the Nazis. The Nazis used air power to bomb Guernica in Spain, Madrid, Coventry, Rotterdam.
Wars escalate, but one shouldn't feel glad to see human suffering , unless it's Hitler and his circle.
paolosilv 1 year ago 2
@paolosilv Agreed. 60% Germans didn't vote for the mean Austrian and many of those who did ended up regretting it after he eliminated all opposition and recruited thugs as brown shirts and in the Gestapo. Every nation has thugs in it who are easy prey to prejudice., yes even GB! To say that we got our revenge many times over with excessive raids on smal towns & cities and killed millions of innocents [ children, the disabled, refugees etc.] is not to be pro Nazi or a Holocaust denier.
helenheather 1 year ago
@paolosilv "People felt mortally threatened by the Nazis."
At the point when Dresden was bombed, there were other motives than that. The west wanted to show Stalin their air power.
" The Nazis used air power to bomb Guernica in Spain, Madrid, Coventry, Rotterdam."
My friend. It is right to remember Guernica. But I find it appalling that people here refuse to remember the Iraqi and Indian villagers who were bombed by the British colonial administration, using white phosphorus, in the 20s.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss And of course ThePangroSSdenier. The 24000 Russian citizens that died in Finnish concentration camps.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "24000 Russian citizens"
DOH! Again no source. The number is 4000 according to "Suur Suomen Kahdet Kasvot". And I have already told that Finland has remembered these victims.
How many died after Stalin took over in Karelia? Not an "interesting" topic eh? And what what happened BEFORE the Finnish occupation. I think that Stalin interned Edward Gylling, President of Karelia and killed him.
The Finns were no "liberators" but Stalin the "liberator" killed hundreds of thousands.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss Wow! You are moving your Finniish war crime denial to greater hights. The 4000 you refer to are the Civilians (Women and Children) The 19000 were Russian POW's.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy
I don't deny, neither do I admit.
I know only very little on the topic. And you don't give me reliable sources. How can I "admit" something I really don't know.
And you don't know either.
Moreover, your motives are dubious because you use these "claims" personally against me. You don't let the facts speak up themselves but you attack me personally.
That testifies your lack of civilization and intellect.
But that is your own fault.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
Well from someone that claims the British need educating about the 'Skeltons' in their closet that's a rum answer. Using conspiracy publications as fact shows a total lack of civilisation and intellect. Surely the Russian demonstators demanding recognition of those crimes were reported in the Finnish media?
Or is all this just a ruse to create a smokescreen? LOL
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Surely the Russian demonstators demanding recognition of those crimes were reported in the Finnish media?"
What about the 51M killed by Stalin? And what about the 62 M people killed by the Soviet from the collectivization to the 90s? Do you think that these tens of millions should be acknowledged?
As to the RAF bombed campaign. A "minor" RAF raid alone against Pforzheim in Schwarzwald claimed 17000 victims in 20 minutes? Should the British media remember these victims too?
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
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@LordGodofMercy "Surely the Russian demonstators demanding recognition of those crimes were reported in the Finnish media?"
Russian demonstrators? When and where? Mind to give me facts?
Then tell me why we Finns don't demonstrate. It was the Soviet which attacked THE NEUTRAL Finland in late Nov. 1939 WITH NO ULTIMATUM. We surely would have more reasons to demonstrate but most just would not.
The Winter War begun with a bombardment of housing areas in Helsinki.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Using conspiracy publications as fact shows a total lack of civilisation and intellect. "
And phrasing like this is sheer propaganda, like your silly pseudonym.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
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@TheMrPangloss
"Using conspiracy publications as fact shows a total lack of civilisation and intellect. " I cut and pasted this phrase from you last post you dizzy Jackass.
What a Sap ROLFF
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
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@LordGodofMercy "Well from someone that claims the British need educating about the 'Skeltons' in their closet that's a rum answer."
Well you should not act like the Judge of all Terrestrial and Heavenly matters. As a matter of fact you are the mockery of anything right and just.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy
The guy who shagged my wife will not be able to drive a bike anymore.
As things are you are just shagged by TMP.
Enjoy it.
robinhood48 1 year ago
@robinhood48
I know you are a devout disciple of Prof HwSShite PanGrossliar. Are you studying at his Helsinki Institute of Nazi apology? He has been promoted to Dean of faculty. The course books can be found in the conspiracy theory section at any crap book shop.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy
You are right there is much to learn from Professor Dr. habil. Sir TheMrPangloss. For example good manners.
robinhood48 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy Congrats-you seem to have lasted a day without quoting alex sold-a nit-son -perhaps another religious quirk to use could be Barabus or Mother Theresa,who I understand was a sergeant in the British Army in India.
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 What are you on about? Are you on the Newky brown?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy it"s called dog -as in a bottle of dog,and certainly not drunk by sold-a-nit .He prefered obscure French vintage sherry-filtered carefully through his Rasputin-like beard
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 So what's your agenda? Sold-a-nit as you call him went doolally so therefore his ‘73 writings on the East Karelia war crimes are void. You’re not a follower of PanGroSS are you? Mmmm you are beginning to whiff a bit of denial. Surely you’re just arseing around.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy god god man -you ve been quoting the old duffer all over the place and now you say he went mad -you re on the ale now boy-get it down ya -it"s doing you good. five weeks of quotes and now madness-dont worry you ll be sober soon,and you re hero will be back in town
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50
There I was going through the day without quoting Solzhenitsyn and dammit if you didn’t make me mention his name. You win hands down. He got up Stalin’s nose so that’s good enough for me. He was 89 when he died so he deserved to sip French Vintage sherry (I thought sherry came from Spain?) through that beard of his. Anyway enough of you Geordie jolly japes! I’m sure there are others for you to play Mr Teasy Weasy with.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@toonmag50 why are you talking like this? I thought you were intelligent and erudite and compassionate.
helenheather 1 year ago
@helenheather If you read LodGodOfMercy's posts and ponder how he treats anybody with whom he disagrees, and if you also notice that he uses the 20+ clones, "blockthehood", "mutley 0777", "MissyPANGLOSS". "krautkiller" & c., you will understand that Toonmag50 and I don't treat him with silk gloves.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss Still trying the clone slander. When are going to post the proof that the UK & the US funded Hitler?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
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TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Still trying the clone slander."
How do you explain this? Every time I respond your posts, some of the users "mutley0777", "blackthehood", "MissyPANGLOSS", "MrPangloss4paska", "yogifalk4bitch" & c. pop up from somewhere.
They are like "cavalry always in time" following you. They also use exactly similar expressions as you.
"Clone slander"? Really? People here are not stupid - but you are.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@helenheather -well I do realise my comments are getting a little brusque, I was finally convinced by that deco-bloke that long winded neo academic replies are just were a waste of time-the final straw was over him denying the Irish genocide during the potato blight.
So good manners get no where
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 "So good manners get no where."
Or to be precise, communication with LordGodOfMercy + the 20 clones doesn't lead anywhere.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss I find the British post imperial generation very difficult to deal with.Decon stated that the potato blight in Ireland was a natural disaster and confirmed by the fact that Irish nationalist did not complain.-his words
How about this. eh? -He just completely sweeps over the fact that Ireland was governed directly from London
1.5 million dead 4 million exudus-and he fails to answer the simple question of whether Ireland would have survived better in charge of their own affairs
toonmag50 1 year ago
@toonmag50 He is a cunning fellow. And just FYI, you can give him first-hand sources and good researches on the topic, but he will never, I say, NEVER, admit.
The only way of defeating him is to overwhelm him with facts. And when the case is strong, don't hesitate to repeat the evidences. Chase him to the corner. After that he starts calling by names, and the others who look will laugh. That is the only strategy with him.
He lacks all moral scruples and does not complain about the clones & c.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@toonmag50 indeed they don't and I do understand that when pseudo intellectuals sart bullshitting and throwing a pile of semantic crap about , it does tend to make one sling low life bleedin' expletives back!
helenheather 1 year ago
Mr Pangloss The biggest Nazi apologist on YT The Nazi prick
blockthehood 1 year ago
I was in London during the blitz, I remember the saturation bombing of Conventry, but what we got from the Germans is nothing to that given to the German people and their cities - I am disgusted to call myself British, if the British condone this sort of bombing of innocent German civillians.
Francis1930 1 year ago 2
@Francis1930 No ordinary Briton or German wanted this. But after it happened strange myths had to be created to protect those who were behind it. People were told time after time that some others would "deserve" what was unhuman for the others.
We need to ponder who exactly did this and why. No collective guilt applies, not to Germans, nor to Britons or any other nationality. We find the villains from movements, politicians and the elite of the greatest wealth and power.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@Francis1930 wow- Another Brit who knows the truth! My mother was in the Blitz too- siad you coul dset your watch by the punctuality of the raids. Have you read 'On the Natural Hiostory of Destruction@ by W G Sebald? Tough stuff, but it should be on the reading lists in all GB High Schools. Nice to know you exist.
helenheather 1 year ago
@Francis1930
As long as Britain has people like you it will be a fine country.
robinhood48 1 year ago
Who will be the next enemy that the rulers of government and corporations create? Will it be the Chinese and Russians vs. the Americans and British? War is ALWAYS about money and power...never about right and wrong or human well being.
marinello6 1 year ago
Dead Germans laying in the gutter is like English roses in my garden LOVELY
MissyPANGLOSS 1 year ago
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@MissyPANGLOSS "Dead Germans laying in the gutter is like English roses in my garden LOVELY"
Go and find a good Psychiatrist, LordGodOfMercy aka MissyPANGLOSS/blockthehood/Pangloss4bullshit/mutley0777& 20+ other clones.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@PissyPANGLOSS
Dude, you have no garden and you have no house.
You live on the dole and public welfare is paying power to run your computer.
You can keep on with your crap, nobody cares.
robinhood48 1 year ago
@robinhood48 The flabby fool speaks the fat prat
blockthehood 1 year ago
@blockthehood
News for you, Cameron will cut social services and welfare spendings- seems you will have to find a job.
Any idea?
robinhood48 1 year ago
@robinhood48 to Blockthehood
‘News for you, Cameron will cut social services and welfare spendings- seems you will have to find a job.’
I see Chancellor Angela Merkel announced that multi culturlism is not working in Germany. She announced it to the ’Youth wing’ of her party. Sounds familiar? Come on! Even you have to see the ironic humour it that one.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy
I have no ironic humor.
Humorous German is an oxymoron.
Verstanden, Jerry?!
robinhood48 1 year ago
@robinhood48 I spent a good part of a Summer in Greece with a load of Germans.
They had a great sense of humour. perhaps it's just you?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy
No.
It´s not just me.
Last year my neighbor fell from bike and I had a good laugh.
You see, I have sense of humor.
Is zat kleer?
robinhood48 1 year ago
@robinhood48 I think he had the last laugh. He was making a quick escape after shagging your Mrs.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
Bomber Harris, do it again!
bolshevikML 1 year ago
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@bolshevikML "Bomber Harris, do it again!"
So he would bomb you? Is that what you mean?
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
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@bolshevikML "Bomber Harris, do it again!"
You are basically saying that it would be totally ok if he poured gasoline jelly and white phosphorus on your wife, children and grandparents.
The civilians are the same regardless side.
As to Nazi crimes, you are using them for justifying others crimes. You justify a war crime by another war crime.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@bolshevikML Antifa at large..nothing else, no historical wisdom, just hate and fear against a new democracy...or maybe like Northwood, staged comments in order to keep up some harsh feelings...
grazyarnie 1 year ago
Elber is pangloss the neo nazi
pangloss4bullshit 1 year ago
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The germans have dare to put the jews out from all keypositions 1933! That was the answer and the britgoys and amigoys have make a goood job as goood gojims! As thanx the masta have you now ruined too! haha very goood!!!
nachtschattenuser 1 year ago
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br0at 1 year ago
@br0at Always thought Hitler was a person sent to destroy Germany!
jrwel14 1 year ago
elber pass the loo roll
blockthehood 1 year ago
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Just for those people who don't understand what happens there below in footages.
The large flashes are blockbuster bombs (cookies), and those little dots of lights are phosphorus bombs and gasoline canisters.
The cookies first blow out the buildings which become sort of chimneys, then they are lit by phosphorus and gasoline jelly.
When on skin the burning phosphorus burns up to the bone, it cannot be extinquished. It makes people bundles of bleeding flesh until they die with spasms.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
The bombing of German cities was a justifiable act in the liberation of Europe. Before the bombings the German people would never consider unconditional surrender, Well done Sir Arthur Harris
blockthehood 1 year ago 4
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@blockthehood LOL you must be pretty insane, if you call the subjugation of Europe under the iron boot of communist dictator STALIN a "liberation", hahaha
Elberiver11 1 year ago
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And your RAF-Cowards helped liberating children and women, by cowardly starting a Firestorm and sucking children & women into it, 3 miles high up into the air, into the centre of Churchill's Phosphorous-Fire.
Harris, Churchill and Stalin = most cowardly and wicked Massmurderers in human history.
Elberiver11 1 year ago
@h0lib0at So, you are saying that Hitler did have the city of Freiburg bombed to justify bombing open cities.
jrwel14 1 year ago 2
France and USSR should not be among the air powers ! France defeated ! USSR communists !
lookgooddz 1 year ago
@lookgooddz
what has communism got to do with it??? by the end of WW2, the USSR had a fine air force!
wickedweasel666 1 year ago
This ally propaganda crap will not be commented by me at all...just so much..the germans today didnt celebrate the bombings of V1, V2..and such..cause we know it was a time ruled by a madman...but there are so many ignorant asses which do celebrate the bombings of London, Coventry, Dresden, Guernica, Hamburg, Wielun, Cologne that I really do ask myself....what is that all about...some pro-allies still are kicking a corpse and the corpse (the NeoNazis) still are poluting the world with insanity11
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie "...but there are so many ignorant asses which do celebrate the bombings of London, Coventry, Dresden, Guernica, Hamburg, "
Those are stupid people. It is perhaps because these delicate questions have not been discussed properly. I hope that some day all parties will tell honestly what they were up to. Only that way we can get rid of the ghosts from the past.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@grazyarnie Those people who celebrate the bombings of London and those who do the same with Dresden, are surprisingly similar.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
that might be true, but the bombing of german cities is most of the time forgotten or justified by the fight against the Nazis and the front lines....therefore its needed to build a Nazi german picture in order to justify the killer bombings....Our jews were deported...yes, they were discrimated...yes...but we as the rest of Europe never believed what they had to face...killing childrens and women or innocent and unarmed men isnt our nature...but some try to give us that face
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie "..killing childrens and women or innocent and unarmed men isnt our nature...but some try to give us that face "
There is no entire nation which would be "inherently evil" so as to say. Killing in general is against the Human nature but killing children in particular is something totally against human nature.
The "collective guilt" and the propagandist picture of the Germans as savages is the tactics of shifting the focus from the essential to the unessential - a smokescreen.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
yep..I totally agree...and that has nothing to do with forgetting the shoa or the bombings done by germans...which is always so much liked to be accused against people not understanding the mass bombings against german towns...
Its not the deed I do acuse...its the reluctance to admit that it was not necessary to bomb civilians in order to win the war.....all heroes the allies have, and they have much, is turning in his grave when he reads "german towns were primary targets"
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie I think that the essential question is two-fold:
(1) Where did Hitler get all the funds for the rocket-like rise of the country from the ashes to glamour between 1933 and 1939?
(2) Why was Hitler treated so much better than the preceding democracy? The Weimar Republic had to suffer in unemployement and hunger due to the insane reparations policy from which Hitler in his turn was totally exempt.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
I dont know these answers cause the answer would force me to use sources well known as conspirancy related...but have the firm believe that Hitler had supporters even outside Germany...
I believe the world waited for an idiot to start a war...Pilsudsky tried to invade Germany but was called back by the French and British.....so yes I believe our european nations were used by big mighty forces who are invisible and untouchable and who are international
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie "I dont know these answers cause the answer would force me to use sources well known as conspirancy related.."
It is difficult. There are serious lacunae in history writing. If look at the map of pre-1933 world you see the Weimar Republic in Europe and the British Empire which still is an Empire where the sun doesn't set. The U.S. and the Soviet were her true rivals, both of them, and Germany without or with the Nazis a pawn.
But the Nazis were evil, I agree with that.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
well the US is a pretty well known special thing when it comes to WWX....
I have many astoneshing facts what the US government tried to realize against their own nation just to justify military actions...wohhooo not funny...
the world was big enough to share between the british and the french, but as Germany tried to participate in colonization...sudenly the french and the british were unique...unique against the third party called Germany
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie "sudenly the french and the british were unique...unique against the third party called Germany "
The Berlin-Baghdad railway was a red blanket to the British Empire before 1914. Similarly, the organized German labor unions and tapering production rates of steel.
Note that Germany's old allies Austria and Turkey were both chopped to pieces after ww1.
The greatest fear was that the Tczaric Russia and Imperial Germany would get close partners in an economic and cultural sense.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
I have to add nothing to this profound comment..thx for sharing Your wisdom
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie "conspirancy related.." LordGodOfMercy and the others blame me of supporting "conspiracy theories".
I don't want to absolve the Nazis. Never. But I think that equally guilty were those who funded them while they knew exactly how evil they were.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
well his brings us to the esoteric and exoteric part of the NS-regime...
grazyarnie 1 year ago
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TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangrosstruthtwiste Pure hypothetical fantasy. What story are you stooges working on now. Do you really expect not be accused of being a Nazi apologist when you go to great lengths to fabricate all this half truth nonsense? Come on what's really eating you? You can't honestly think that anyone apart from Elberiver would be taken in by your tenuous threading and highly selective montage of events .
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
I see you HwSShite the denial monster and your gullible sidekick Robihoodwinker are singing from the same song sheet as Elberiver now. So the Three SStooges have finally reformed. What little comedy routine are you three going to come up with now? Who is Moe? Who’s Larry? And who is Curly? It would be fun guessing If it were not for the fact that HSShite is a callous war crime denial monster, hypocrite and slanderer. Have fun lacing buttercups and daisies into each others hair eh! Comrades!
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy Yell yell and YELL! Maybe people will listen to you. But those who think exactly like you won't count. You are far too "Limey", you see.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss AKA HwSShitler and one of the Three SStooges. At least I don't have to change my identity on Youtube. Even an arrogant hypocrite like you came to realise that Hwschilt became synonymous for obsessed anti Allied Nazi apologist. What does 'Limey' mean? Is that supposed to be insulting? Your bombastic slander of Allied air crew is insulting. But there again you are in agreement with Elberiver now. A nice little Menage a tois you've got going eh!.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "But there again you are in agreement with Elberiver now."
If I sometimes agree with him, that's not a big deal. Instead the whole personality of yours is like Elbe's. He is smarter than you though, but you both are loonies and that's what identical in you and him.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss Of course you agree with him! You are reading from the same script! What gags are you and the other two members of the The Three SStooges dreaming up now? Tell me more about how Britain invented Hitler to attack Russia, that was a good gag. Wasn’t that was from the old act when you called yourself HwShite. Classic comedy routine. A round of applause. I bet you will be telling that one again and again and again and again….
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Of course you agree with him! "
I agree even with you, for example that we both think that Hitler was a criminal. Think about that! I AGREE EVEN WITH YOU.
But that is an obvious thing. Anybody who has any sense of right and wrong doesn't approve of Nazism.
That you preach about that here is no big deal then, and it is even more ridiculous that a man of meagre intellect and lacking morality himself, like you, my whining wimp, tries to teach "morals" to the others. Pathetic!!
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Classic comedy routine."
If one compiles your posts he sees that there's nothing there, NOTHING. That's not even funny but pitiful. You don't have anything to say, unless that people should be "nice" to the British and "respect" the Empire.
And those who don't behave like you say are "Nazis" or whatever.
Nobody likes you here, and nobody in the real life either. You lie about people who say something unpleasant that your don't want to hear. And that's only YOUR problem.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Tell me more about how Britain invented Hitler to attack Russia, that was a good gag."
Check online Anthony Sutton's works how the western funders supported both Hitler and Stalin. Something harmful had to be done to the Continent to guarantee the Anglo-Saxon world domination. Pity that it costed Britain the Empire.
Nobody misses the British Empire. Do you?
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TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss So Britain implements these policies as you claim. Then Britain declares war on Germany to aide Poland and to halt Hitler’s eastward aspirations. With the very real and dangerous risk of war with the then ally of Nazi Germany the Soviet Union. Britain then goes on to fight a war which bankrupts the country and for it to lose its Empire? Do you seriously believe that anyone to taken in by that? That is a classic Three Stooges plot well done…
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Then Britain declares war on Germany to aide Poland and to halt Hitler’s eastward aspirations."
If Hitler had not allied with the Soviet, Britain would not have allied with Poland. The reason for first allying with Poland and cheating it (selling its eastern half to staling) THE SOVIET-NAZI ALLIANCE IN AUGUST 1939. And Britain allied with Poland as soon as she knew about this alliance.
And this catastrophic, UNANTICIPATED, alliance was the "casus belli", not helping Poland.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy The my litte Lord.
Firstly, Britain did not support democracy in Germany since she let Hitler usurp the power - yet Germany was totally in British control.
Secondly, U.K. allowed Hitler to build an army in London Treaty and even funded it.
Thirdly, U.K. allowed the Nazi Germany to meddle in the Spanish Civil war and to help the Falangists of Franco.
Fourthly, U.K. allowed the Hitler to expand in Munich Pact.
Lastly, U.K. betrayed the anti-Nazis.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss And to add, the Anglo-British establishment wanted nothing else more than to annihilate the two most resourceful countries of the continent: Germany and Russia. The Russians lost most of people in ww2 and the original plan was to annihilate Germany altogether.
EArlier, the west could have prevented the rise of the Bolsheviks, and when one scrutinizes the dire events in the Weimar Republic, it is clear that the democracy was destroyed there and the harmful Fascism favored.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
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@LordGodofMercy "Britain then goes on to fight a war which bankrupts the country and for it to lose its Empire?"
The British establishment didn't anticipate this. They were completely cheated and taken for a ride by the U.S. which, practically speaking, made the U.K. pay the costs of the war.
The blind hate against all German by the British Establishment was due to the economical growth in the late 19th century. The U.S. shrewdly used it for its own benefit.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Three Stooges plot well done… "
Not at all. That explains how Roosevelt neglects Churchill and socializes with Uncle Joe. Roosevelt even ridiculed Winnie in front of him.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss All hypothetical really. Why do you conveniently leave out France in all this piffle . Britain did not support Hitler. Britain even supported Finland against the Soviet Union until Finland allied er... sorry came to a convenient arrangement with Hitler. All this says more about you than it does about Britain. So Britain invented Fascism Good grief Whatever next.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Britain did not support Hitler."
1) London Treaty,
(2) Munich Pact.
Too thick to be taken as "blunders".
Hitler was pampered, and yet, the British govt. knew exactly that he killed people in the KZs from the start, from 1933. And yet, it didn't listen to the anti-Nazi resistance which was active from 1933 on. Later the resistance was betrayed by Churchill to Gestapo in 1944.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Britain even supported Finland against the Soviet Union..." Very nominal support.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "All this says more about you than it does about Britain.
LOL You can't say anything better than that. You go personal when somebody says something unpleasant. Not very clever behaviour.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss But every time someone has pointed out the shady behaviour of Finland in WW2 you report them. You hope that youtube will shut them up. The same way the Hitler Youth were encouraged to tell tales on people and the Gestapo would make them disappear. You have consistently made personal attacks on the Allied aircrews. Very unpleasant behaviour on your part.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
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@LordGodofMercy "So Britain invented Fascism Good grief Whatever next."
Britain supported Fascism in Germany to harm the country. I can tell you that it did.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Tell me more about how Britain invented Hitler to attack Russia, that was a good gag."
If you want to destroy a locality, instigate its dominating groups against each other. That's what Britain did for ages in a large scale. Are you saying that the ww2 made any exception? It hardly did. Britain was then the largest power in the world.
You are a simpleton if you don't understand this, and you are a clumsy cheater if you deny it. People here are not as stupid as you are.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss AKA Hwshite No need to prove to me that you are a callous Finnish War Crime Denial monster.
I know full well that you could white wash Finnish war crimes in the same way you twist events concerning any event concerning Britain and WW2. Do you not think this interest you have in British History and then selecting events to plump out your derogatory theories is obsessive? Perhaps even patholological ?
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@LordGodofMercy "Perhaps even patholological ? "
Why do you have to follow me everywhere. It is you who is hooked and obsessed. Only one syllable against your beloved British Empire which nobody misses and you go beserk losing your control. LMAO
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss AKA hwshitsmearcampaigner. Why do you follow the RAF vids around posting your ridiculous smear campaign theories? I would find your truth twisting butchering of any fact related to the British WW2 campaign amusing, were it not for the fact that you are such a Finnish war crime denial monster.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
He follows you because he likes you. He just doesn´t dare to admit. Maybe he fears you would reject him.
Normal behavior in his age.
robinhood48 1 year ago
@robinhood48 He claims to be 33 years. I don't think that his behaviour is normal of his age. But if he belongs to the degenerated British nobility which has cross-married for centuries, that can explain lots of his childish tantrums and other bizarre things in his behaviour.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss Well said! WW2 is so last century, but of course all the while fingers are pointed backwards towards our just fight against Nazis people are directed away from pointing fingers at American + British war mongering today in the Middle East- a war started without UN sanctions. I do hope that collective guilt is not shoved upon all Americans and Brits- many are against the war even the ones that VOTED FOR TONY BLAIR!
helenheather 1 year ago
Bloody Gerry got a real bolloxing by the Mighty 8th and the RAF!
MrSunlander 1 year ago
@MrSunlander "Bloody Gerry got a real bolloxing by the Mighty 8th and the RAF! "
Another racist retort worth reporting to the YT admins as hate speech against a nationality. Mr. Sunlander, you know damn well that, rightly, similar Antisemitic retorts will be reported too. Besides many German Jews (who were as German as any) died as well under these bombs.
Particularly the RAF night raids against civilians and simiar USAAC raids agaist Japan including the nukes were a crime against Humanity.
hwschildt 1 year ago