Shooting one-handed, as required in Bullseye Pistol, the thumb must be kept up. Lots of idiots, many of them Distinguished Pistols, some of the National Champions, shoot this way.
proper trigger control would be to pull striaght back no matter how long the pull to recoil ration - if that make any sense - after seeign this video nothing makes sense.
consider index finger always on front of mag and back of mag to back of magwell when loading. I noticed on your first bring back - no technique. Dont you hate the net with all us bozos with opinions. Pistol badge has absolutly nothing to do with proper gun handling technique.
It's good to start off learning good technique. I started off with poor technique and have to work on breaking bad habits, I wish more people would make proper shooting instructionals. Kudos to you, sir
@ModestMagician That's exactly what a professional musician taught me about any musical instrument. I suppose that could apply towards anything. Or in the words of Jackie Chan, "How can I fill your cup if it is already full?"
@38super Six more points this last weekend toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge shooting this same gun in the same technique. Working toward being Double Distinguished- I already have my Distinguished Rifle Badge. Only about 1900 Distinguished Rifles in the world- they started giving the award in 1876. Not that many DPs. VERY few Double Distinguished.
@38super What do you mean " Why not just put your whole hand through the trigger guard?' He's gripping the gun as proper as he can while using one hand. In order to do this, you must have a good portion of you finger in the trigger guard to apply stability. Also, he's not being a dumb ass like most shooters you see on YouTube and he's SQUEEZING the trigger not pulling it, for more stability. This ALSO requires more finger on the trigger to be done. I am 15 and i know this.
@38super Not every shooter will benefit the most from a textbook style shooting technique. Some people do well with a grip that isn't in line with the forearm, some with shooting with the joint instead of the pad of the finger, some people don't like to aim both thumbs straight ahead, and if it works for them than that's what every shooter is trying to accomplish anyway: something that works. There's more than one way to fire a pistol.
maybe putting two hands on the fucking gun should be the first step! also, you dont shoot the gun sideways if that was what you were going to do. that will be a first, a hillbilly gangster.
@tredub91 Still finger with tight grip. I have to roll it a little to get finger in. You'll notice, of course, that I didn't fire the weapon out of alignment. All Bullseye Pistol is shot one handed at 25 yards and 50 yards. I can hit silhouettes at 100. One handed.
Although I am only 16 I have much experience with the 1911 and other handguns ,, whale on the topic of trigger controll you should use the middle of the tip of your finger this will allow you to regain the sight picture when firing rapidly ... Mussel rise and shaking will be dramatically reduced
The point of all of this is to help folks shoot more accurately while being safe. I hope this video shows simple trigger technique and is useful to fellow shooters.
the biggest mistake ive seen in most of these vids is theyre all using 1911's.how could an automatically inferior firearm be so beloved?i love this SS P220 .45
@moparphil6987 What is so inferior about the 1911? The single stack magazine? I'm pretty sure the Sig is single stack as well. And if you carry concealed you might consider single stack a good thing.
@moparphil6987 Maybe it's so popular because it looks cool and they are fun to shoot, not to mention that they have a huge variety of calibers. Everything from .22 to .38 super to .45. Oh and since they've been in production for at least 100 years they are everywhere, easy to obtain.
at first i thought he was gunna shoot gangster style, that would be awesome, does this gun have alot of recoil for the first pistol a 13 year old is shooting?
I think with a 1911 the trigger reset and having to fully cycle the trigger isn't a huge deal.. 1911's are known to have "crisp" trigger pulls.. My Taurus pt92 though you have to cycle the trigger to rear pretty far before it goes off and the trigger reset is definately a lot shorter distance than the full trigger pull.
Also look at how far back the recoil sends the weapon. That is poor trigger control. If you absolutely have to fire a weapon one handed it should be leaned into. Of course, no one in their proper mind is going to jerk the trigger. So I dont understand your point zeus2984
MACLEOD im not saying that SA,DA,SA&DA or DAO are all the same mechanics but they all do require the same trigger manipulation .i own a sig p6 and a glock 19 and both guns you do not have to let all the slack out for the trigger to reset. i do not own a hk but have shot a usp before and the trigger requires the same manipulation. on your next post relax a bit it's just me your talking to im not here for your first born child.
good vid to explain trigger reset .and yes macleod212 i dont care if you are shooting an m4 or any other gun your finger should not bounce on the trigger nor should you let all the slack off when you release. release the trigger just enough to reset then pull what can be faster than that? double tap who r u jack bauer
No I am a veteran of the british army. 14 years 4 tours in iraq and 5 in afghanistan. Who the fuck are you? an armchair quarterback? No. more than likely just another yank who knows best simply because he read it in a magazine. And Im sure youve NEVER tried it. Another american walt.
@zeus2984@zeus2984 You dont care if Im shooting an m4 probably because you fail to understand the trigger mechanism of an m4. You are comparing a gas inpingement system to a single action dinosaur.
@zeus2984 When you hold the trigger and fail to reset then you are bumping. especially if you are attempting to take accurate shots. there are two directions a pistol can go. left to right and up and down. you can only control one. (left to right- but Im sure your lordship knows all about that) you have to attempt to control as much of up and down (recoil) as you can with proper trigger reset. YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Macleod i think you misread my post go over it again then re post and yes i understand the trigger mech. on an M4 ( at least on my m&p 15) and no im not comparing anything(retard). im saying trigger control works on any gun whether shooting my single action 1911 or my double action walther p99 or any pistol or ANY RIFLE (including your M4 where the laws of physics fail to exist) . your trying to prove the wrong point .for being in the army for 14 years you sure are stupid
@zeus2984 Well, knowledge from the mouth of a true american wankbox. you yanks are so fucking stupid. im going to say from here, because I understand how hard it is for you fucks to pay attention to detail. Look at what you call "trigger control." I dont understand your post? Perhaps thats because you compose it like a fucking retarded child. For being a kid who wants to prove a meaningless point, you are exactly that. I realise you arent going to accept because of your ignorant yankee pride.
@zeus2984 So from here on out kid. understand that Im not replying to anymore of your ignorant shit. Conversing with a shitty brick wall is what Im doing. pointless. your not learning anything and your CERTAINLY not going to admit it if you did. so whats the fucking point??
@zeus2984 Not to mention kid. you going against proper training on so many levels. Keeping your finger on the trigger half cocked??? Go fuck yourself. Safety violation anyone. No wonder you dumb fucks have so many casualties from friendly fire. What about sig, glock, hk, etc. weapons that require full trigger release to reset??? Your comment instigates for ALL firearms. Also. the guy in the video has a SA 1911. Your saying gas, SA, DA, DAK, everything all same. You dont know shit.
macleod apparently you don't understand my post thats why you resort to American slander and name calling in broken English.you would be speaking German if it wasn't for American's.back to the point,we are talking about keeping your finger on the trigger for the follow up shot not for the remainder of the day so their is no safety issue (remember what the vid is about )casualties of war look it up the first causality was a UN solider shot by another UN solider while riding in back of transport
I have to say Zeus2984, I was a sgt maj in the Newzealand special forces, and I am reading both you and macleod 212s posts. it looks to me like macleod212 is trying to teach you something about trigger control, but youre not listening. Youre trying to say that one should keep the trigger held down whilst firing? Also I again agree with macleod212 that all firearms are different. True that one shouldnt bump the trigger, but macleods not saying they should, hes saying dont worry so much about it.
@zeus2984 Also its not so much trigger control that promotes accuracy, its how the firearm is manipulated through proper grip and discipline. Its hard to "bump" the trigger if one has a proper grip. Thats what the operations personnel all over the world are taught to do. If your grip is good then your sight picture will automatically lign up. on double taps the trigger is released then tapped again. two shots fired in close succession.
@sybo59 My point proven right here kids. Hey sybo59, lets see an upload of you doing it "properly", this I have to see. By the way, I always used weapons (minus the 416 and usp) that didnt have safety. And I HATE fucking glocks. yes they all DO require trigger release. You show me how you fire a semi-auto weapon and keep the trigger held down. How does it reset with the trigger held down? POG ha ha. you dont even know what a pogue is you fucking call of duty wannabe.
@sybo59 I dont give a monkeys about your imaginary experience yank. And just so we keep this wannabe pissing contest clear: The release for the trigger to reset is a cunt hair away from releasing the full thing. so what the fuck are you even talking about. Hey pussy, wheres my fuckin video showing us all how the great yankee poofter half cocks his trigger.
@sybo 59 people who talk like you have no experience. The wire? what in Gods name is the wire? you learn that on tv? I see why macleod212 is getting frustrated with you. your an ignorant kid who thinks he has something on a combat veteran.
@macleod212 I agree with you on what you have said, what I dont agree with is why you are staying on this kid. he is like a profile wanker. one of those kids who sits around "injured" until he gets med-rolled. then when he hits civvy street he tells his mates he was delta force. Dont know why your bothering mate, he isnt going to let up. you got his goat.
@sybo59 by attempting to adopt what you think is a special ops mindset (not that youd know because you certainly were not there) you fail to understand the basics. soldiers do not go into combat with the safety on. But they DO think before they pull the trigger, otherwise you end up like your ranger pal pat tillman. Advanced infantry or not, special ops or not. when you shoot your buddy in the ass (or the back of the head) You look like a total knobbin and your at best discharged or in the nick.
@sybo59 Ha. a mate of mine just made a good point. You probably dont really have any idea what Im talking about when I say trigger release, because its not as though you can hear the trigger reset when the character on the video game does a reload. HA HA HA. Youre keeping my whole company entertained kid. Your definitely a college graduated liberal troop hating turd.
@sybo59 Why the fuck am I even arguing with a pathetic guttertwat like yourself. Look at the fucking video. Full trigger reset to fire the next shot. Haaa!! Fuck why did I even bother?
@macleod212 A cunt hair? I just measured the distance from trigger reset to "full release" on my personal gat, and it is 8/10s of a centimeter; witch as you know, is equal to 76 cunt hairs. I can't believe you trivialize this point. I guess seconds don't matter. What possible advantage is there to pulling your finger all the way off the trigger between two shots?
Also, I've never met an operator that talks heavy shit, outside his group of friends of course.
@sybo59 boy, you have NEVER met an operator. and of all the posts I have read on here, Macleod212s included, no one other than yourself has ever said anything about pulling their finger all the way off the trigger. Also, are you a darkie? because you called your personal a "gat." When someone from the military says full trigger release, they mean the full release until it clicks and then fire again. NOT LET GO. Jesus you americans are thick.
@kiwiSgtMaj A darkie huh? A bit racist are we? Respect? Where is the respect in all of macleod and your comments? There is very little meat to you comments, and it is surrounded by the fat of meaningless suppositions in the form of insult. Big internet tough guy talk "I'd kick your ass!" "You stupid YANKS!!" "You've never MET an operator"
I guess the respect thing is supposed to be a one way street. The only disrespect I've shown is having a different opinion.
@sybo59 You havent been there and you certainly havent participated. Therefore you deserve no right to an opinion. when you have served your country you will have the right. otherwise stay under your rock and watch others do it in your stead.You are indeed a liberal fuck. the worst kind of people are people like you.
@sybo59 In my opinion, YOUR opinion doesnt count. You havent done it. YOU HAVE NO OPINION. the right for idiots to have opinions is what has turned your country into a liberal debt wasted shithole
@sybo59 I realise that they dont do geography in america. Which is pretty much along the same lines as to why were having this conversation. But a kiwi is the slang term of a person from NEW ZEALAND. not australia. they are close. but they are not the same country you see. as far as what WE are talking about. I think you have lost count. Well Im done here. as I told macleod212, Im going to leave you to your burning house. take deep breaths.
@sybo59 You have some mouth on you boy. If you were in my group I would knock the fuck out of you. your words speak nothing but that of ignorance and disrespect. Macleod212 is right. NOT SHOOTING YOUR BUDDY IN THE ASS IS PRIORITY. the whole point of tactical anything is situational awareness. a large part of that being safety. Every pistol that I have ever fired in my career of 24 years in the military has been reset almost to full extension. there is only mm remaining to release when it clicks.
This only works if you are shooting slow as shit, dont try it with an m4 or any pistol that you intend to double tap with, the held trigger reset will throw everything completely off.
@sybo59 Im certain you would know more than I son. Just curious. How would you surmise an accurate picture of what is being discussed through a short comment? My contention is that you are simply another yankee expert that has never tried it. Oh and is that you giving yourself a one upper with a different account? Thats not a sign of a true bullshitter now is it?
@macleod212 Son? Haha, very well.I will say after rewatching the video that he does keep the trigger to the rear longer than necessary.That said, follow through is follow through, with any weapon (although his is VERY exaggerated), and releasing the trigger no further than its reset is the most efficient way to take follow on shots.When your taking two shots with one sight picture (hammered pairs), obviously followthrough changes, but the trigger reset principal remains the same. Were you a POG?
@sybo59 You mean a Know it all non infantry piece of shit. No. why would I have excessive combat experience if I was a pogue? What I did remains my business.
You know what, after watching this again, I realize this guy isn't even doing what I'm talking about. I was thinking the vid was about trigger reset for quick accurate shooting, but hes has bad form in this regard.
that first stage you're calling is the slack, remove the slack before you completing the trigger pull. and one thing more, put your right thumb above the safety lock for better recoil control and accuracy
one of the most common mistakes i see when ppl shooth their gun is anticipating the recoil. pple generally want to over power the gun when the shoot it. for god sakes....just let the gun do what it do....don.t anticipate recoil. just shoot the friggin thang and of course with proper techniques...you should be ok
everyone anticipates. even better shooters b/c its inevitable. good shooters will learn recoil pulses of their guns. what people shouldn't do is flinch. but everyone anticipates recoil.
@SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 I"ve shot a gun here and there but I recently purchased my first handgun, simply to shot targets at home. I'm glad I read your comment I'll be sure to keep it in mind Sunday. Thanks.
@SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313@SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 I"ve shot a gun here and there but I recently purchased my first handgun, simply to shot targets at home. I'm glad I read your comment about not anticipating the recoil. I'll be sure to keep it in mind Sunday. Thank you.
pistol shooting is like fucking. anyone with the proper equipment can do it, but only the well trained/talented can do it well. or well enough not to be laughed at after and during. btw, pulling the trigger properly especially under stress is much more difficult than many might think. jerking the trigger can effectively dismantle any previous effort to land the round.
no its not. its a tool that CAN be used for killing but so is a knife, hammer, saw, pencil, scissors, brick, car, plane, screwdriver, baseball bat, hockey stick,piano wire, rope, drug, chair, train, rock... you get the idea, i hope. They all have extensive other purposes but can kill. They aren't designed to kill.
killing/protection, plinking, persuasion, and practice. i've had a gun with me since i was nearly 10, and never had to shoot someone, but always found it useful. though i've had a few close encounters. the joy of using my gun to carve holes in a target and see my skills develop is to me, a quite satisfying purpose.
no its not. its a tool that CAN be used for killing but so is a knife, hammer, saw, pencil, scissors, brick, car, plane, screwdriver, baseball bat, hockey stick,piano wire, rope, drug, chair, train, rock... you get the idea, i hope. They all have extensive other purposes but can kill. They aren't designed to kill.
It first started with the cannon, this origanted from fireworks that were made back in the 1400's from the Chinese. This then continued to have the SAME idea as a bow&arrow (you guessed it, killing machine). These 2 ideas clashed, then continued to evolve into flintlocks, the spaniards/english used these to invade many territories, then slowly this "tool" morphed into cartridges, then boltactions/lever actions, then to automatics, now to single cartridge munitions all based on the intent to KILL
Bad analogy. I guess you could say that a brick isn't designed to build structures, that this is just one application of it. Modern guns ARE designed for killing first and foremost, but also can be used for fun and recreation. What a terrible false correlation you draw between pencils, screwdrivers, etc. being tools that can be used as weapons and guns. The difference is a screwdriver is a screwing tool that can be used in alternative ways. A gun however is a killing tool at its very root.
I disagree a gun may also be used as a bludgeoning tool, thus causing in most cases blunt force trauma. A less lethal alternative XD... sorry i couldn't help myself.
why are you on all this videos talking shit, you wouldn't know anything about guns because all you can do is read about the bad things they due in your stupid pussy newspapers, so shut the hell up and bow to your queen you bitch
I have a question regarding the 1911 style pistol. I was told that the proper way to grip a 1911 is with the strong hand thumb resting on top of the thumb safety. I am finding that really uncomfortable so i have switched to the thumb under safety. Here's my issue, i was told from fellow shooters that if i grip the 1911 like that i could accidentally hit the safety on which could be fatal in some situations (self defense). Any advice or is a 1911 just not for me?
I shoot a 1911 exactly like you've mentioned and I haven't had any problems. It is possible to activate the safety but if you mind your thumb, you should be alright. Try a a Beretta M9.
Mr. Langham does us a great service posting this vid. He clearly presented the critical skill of keeping the trigger pressed through recoil, releasing it to reset, then beginning the rearward press on the trigger again.
It is the core to both accurate shooting and rapid shooting.
i was a little worried at the start when u held it sideways i thought "oh no, we have kids thinking holding a firearm sideways is a valid form of shooting but to see this gentlman doing it, what the sport comeing to?"
but u did show a vary important triger technique and looked quite professional wile doing so
Army: When shooting a M16/variant on semi-auto this technique works VERY well. Holding the trigger all the way back and then relaxing just enough to reset (you'll hear a loud "thock" as the trigger burst cam moves and resets) really smooths out an M16 trigger. The burst kit has three cam spurs on it, all progressively higher so that the trigger pull increases with each shot. Try it dry firing while holding the trigger back and cycling the bolt with the charging handle.
@Blackfork6 Your recommendation for firing the M-16 can't be more right on. If the technique is used, subsequent rounds are much more precise due to the decrease in trigger travel and required pressure. For both the M-16 and handgun proper trigger mechanics are not easy to learn, but are worth training oneself to perform correctly. Thanks for the great vid!
@Blackfork6 Dry firing is really dumb and can ruin your firearm, If you choose to do that you should at least use capped dummy rounds, but even then your firearm is at risk.
You ought to watch the same trigger technique when I am shooting a Garand on the Range Video I posted. Hold it all the way back....then relax just enough to reset, then start the next shot.
depends if they miss on the first shot or not. Most marines and navy spec ops are trained not to miss. You are forgetting that most army and marine recon have either aimpoint or EOTECH sights. This fact alone let's their shots be way more accurate, I would know I have an EOTECH 552 on my Bushy XM15E2S. Put the dot on what you want to hit and squeeze, soda can 0 - me 1 - MF.
Shooting one-handed, as required in Bullseye Pistol, the thumb must be kept up. Lots of idiots, many of them Distinguished Pistols, some of the National Champions, shoot this way.
Blackfork6 4 months ago
proper trigger control would be to pull striaght back no matter how long the pull to recoil ration - if that make any sense - after seeign this video nothing makes sense.
wadealancarlson 4 months ago
nice thumb idiot
wadealancarlson 4 months ago
consider index finger always on front of mag and back of mag to back of magwell when loading. I noticed on your first bring back - no technique. Dont you hate the net with all us bozos with opinions. Pistol badge has absolutly nothing to do with proper gun handling technique.
QuesoChino 5 months ago
Having a custom made Les Baer 1911 would improve my shooting.
lithjimmy 6 months ago 2
It's good to start off learning good technique. I started off with poor technique and have to work on breaking bad habits, I wish more people would make proper shooting instructionals. Kudos to you, sir
ModestMagician 7 months ago
@ModestMagician That's exactly what a professional musician taught me about any musical instrument. I suppose that could apply towards anything. Or in the words of Jackie Chan, "How can I fill your cup if it is already full?"
bigthunk 7 months ago
Nice steady hand. Have to try that proximal digit technique.
M4Mnetwork 8 months ago
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JuanMilani1 9 months ago
"ONE THUMP UP" ???!!!!!! LOL
mantuve1 9 months ago
This is how not to shoot a 1911 . Why not just put your whole hand through the trigger guard
38super 9 months ago
@38super Six more points this last weekend toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge shooting this same gun in the same technique. Working toward being Double Distinguished- I already have my Distinguished Rifle Badge. Only about 1900 Distinguished Rifles in the world- they started giving the award in 1876. Not that many DPs. VERY few Double Distinguished.
Blackfork6 9 months ago 14
@38super What do you mean " Why not just put your whole hand through the trigger guard?' He's gripping the gun as proper as he can while using one hand. In order to do this, you must have a good portion of you finger in the trigger guard to apply stability. Also, he's not being a dumb ass like most shooters you see on YouTube and he's SQUEEZING the trigger not pulling it, for more stability. This ALSO requires more finger on the trigger to be done. I am 15 and i know this.
IAMJAKETRIMBLE 6 months ago 2
@38super Not every shooter will benefit the most from a textbook style shooting technique. Some people do well with a grip that isn't in line with the forearm, some with shooting with the joint instead of the pad of the finger, some people don't like to aim both thumbs straight ahead, and if it works for them than that's what every shooter is trying to accomplish anyway: something that works. There's more than one way to fire a pistol.
IMBW89 2 weeks ago
great trigger method , but why were you shooting one handed?
antitalkingsquash 10 months ago
@antitalkingsquash All Bullseye pistol matches are shot one-handed. 25 yards and 50 yards.
Blackfork6 10 months ago
@antitalkingsquash One hand plenty steady. Required in Bullseye pistol matches.
Blackfork6 10 months ago 3
@antitalkingsquash probably so we can see he's holding the trigger down until the recoil is over.
Gamble2185 10 months ago
@antitalkingsquash because its called HAND GUNS not HANDS GUNS
TheJizzames 3 weeks ago
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maybe putting two hands on the fucking gun should be the first step! also, you dont shoot the gun sideways if that was what you were going to do. that will be a first, a hillbilly gangster.
tredub91 10 months ago
@tredub91 Still finger with tight grip. I have to roll it a little to get finger in. You'll notice, of course, that I didn't fire the weapon out of alignment. All Bullseye Pistol is shot one handed at 25 yards and 50 yards. I can hit silhouettes at 100. One handed.
Blackfork6 10 months ago 17
@tredub91 lol. You are why we should not have freedom of speech.
2011OBPSTI 9 months ago
Although I am only 16 I have much experience with the 1911 and other handguns ,, whale on the topic of trigger controll you should use the middle of the tip of your finger this will allow you to regain the sight picture when firing rapidly ... Mussel rise and shaking will be dramatically reduced
yaymom1 11 months ago
The point of all of this is to help folks shoot more accurately while being safe. I hope this video shows simple trigger technique and is useful to fellow shooters.
Blackfork6 1 year ago
was he about pop a cap in someone a** for a second there? that hand twist man! just giving hard time, but I'm try it.
ykspa88 1 year ago 6
@ykspa88 Must be my old stiff trigger finger. I have to have a little help getting my finger inside the trigger guard!
Blackfork6 1 year ago
@Blackfork6 I'll take that, you have more knowledge then me and experience, + I'm just joking sir. thank you for sharing your skills.
ykspa88 1 year ago
and little less trigger finger??
TajRasak 1 year ago
the biggest mistake ive seen in most of these vids is theyre all using 1911's.how could an automatically inferior firearm be so beloved?i love this SS P220 .45
moparphil6987 1 year ago
@moparphil6987 What is so inferior about the 1911? The single stack magazine? I'm pretty sure the Sig is single stack as well. And if you carry concealed you might consider single stack a good thing.
Diraphe 10 months ago
@moparphil6987 Maybe it's so popular because it looks cool and they are fun to shoot, not to mention that they have a huge variety of calibers. Everything from .22 to .38 super to .45. Oh and since they've been in production for at least 100 years they are everywhere, easy to obtain.
RockKeits 10 months ago
I thought he was going gangsta @ 0:25
dawnmarko1 1 year ago 5
i thought he was gonna be like "break yoself foo" and shoot it sideways at first hahaahah
jpp721 1 year ago
why?
USMC8113 1 year ago
at first i thought he was gunna shoot gangster style, that would be awesome, does this gun have alot of recoil for the first pistol a 13 year old is shooting?
futurerev21 1 year ago
I have less finger on trigger when I shoot.
semiautoriflelover 1 year ago
I think with a 1911 the trigger reset and having to fully cycle the trigger isn't a huge deal.. 1911's are known to have "crisp" trigger pulls.. My Taurus pt92 though you have to cycle the trigger to rear pretty far before it goes off and the trigger reset is definately a lot shorter distance than the full trigger pull.
mixwell1983 1 year ago
@mixwell1983 Yeah, 1911s have the best trigger of any handgun.
Grubbernaut 1 year ago
@Grubbernaut - Totally agree. I like the lack of trigger play on Them.
mixwell1983 1 year ago
i really hope he wasnt pointing the gun towards traffic lol
ctuagent247 1 year ago
Also look at how far back the recoil sends the weapon. That is poor trigger control. If you absolutely have to fire a weapon one handed it should be leaned into. Of course, no one in their proper mind is going to jerk the trigger. So I dont understand your point zeus2984
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
MACLEOD im not saying that SA,DA,SA&DA or DAO are all the same mechanics but they all do require the same trigger manipulation .i own a sig p6 and a glock 19 and both guns you do not have to let all the slack out for the trigger to reset. i do not own a hk but have shot a usp before and the trigger requires the same manipulation. on your next post relax a bit it's just me your talking to im not here for your first born child.
zeus2984 1 year ago
same technique for revolvers as well?
untouchblz 2 years ago
good vid to explain trigger reset .and yes macleod212 i dont care if you are shooting an m4 or any other gun your finger should not bounce on the trigger nor should you let all the slack off when you release. release the trigger just enough to reset then pull what can be faster than that? double tap who r u jack bauer
zeus2984 2 years ago
No I am a veteran of the british army. 14 years 4 tours in iraq and 5 in afghanistan. Who the fuck are you? an armchair quarterback? No. more than likely just another yank who knows best simply because he read it in a magazine. And Im sure youve NEVER tried it. Another american walt.
macleod212 1 year ago
@zeus2984 @zeus2984 You dont care if Im shooting an m4 probably because you fail to understand the trigger mechanism of an m4. You are comparing a gas inpingement system to a single action dinosaur.
macleod212 1 year ago
@zeus2984 When you hold the trigger and fail to reset then you are bumping. especially if you are attempting to take accurate shots. there are two directions a pistol can go. left to right and up and down. you can only control one. (left to right- but Im sure your lordship knows all about that) you have to attempt to control as much of up and down (recoil) as you can with proper trigger reset. YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
macleod212 1 year ago
Macleod i think you misread my post go over it again then re post and yes i understand the trigger mech. on an M4 ( at least on my m&p 15) and no im not comparing anything(retard). im saying trigger control works on any gun whether shooting my single action 1911 or my double action walther p99 or any pistol or ANY RIFLE (including your M4 where the laws of physics fail to exist) . your trying to prove the wrong point .for being in the army for 14 years you sure are stupid
zeus2984 1 year ago
@zeus2984 Well, knowledge from the mouth of a true american wankbox. you yanks are so fucking stupid. im going to say from here, because I understand how hard it is for you fucks to pay attention to detail. Look at what you call "trigger control." I dont understand your post? Perhaps thats because you compose it like a fucking retarded child. For being a kid who wants to prove a meaningless point, you are exactly that. I realise you arent going to accept because of your ignorant yankee pride.
macleod212 1 year ago
@zeus2984 So from here on out kid. understand that Im not replying to anymore of your ignorant shit. Conversing with a shitty brick wall is what Im doing. pointless. your not learning anything and your CERTAINLY not going to admit it if you did. so whats the fucking point??
macleod212 1 year ago
@zeus2984 Not to mention kid. you going against proper training on so many levels. Keeping your finger on the trigger half cocked??? Go fuck yourself. Safety violation anyone. No wonder you dumb fucks have so many casualties from friendly fire. What about sig, glock, hk, etc. weapons that require full trigger release to reset??? Your comment instigates for ALL firearms. Also. the guy in the video has a SA 1911. Your saying gas, SA, DA, DAK, everything all same. You dont know shit.
macleod212 1 year ago
macleod apparently you don't understand my post thats why you resort to American slander and name calling in broken English.you would be speaking German if it wasn't for American's.back to the point,we are talking about keeping your finger on the trigger for the follow up shot not for the remainder of the day so their is no safety issue (remember what the vid is about )casualties of war look it up the first causality was a UN solider shot by another UN solider while riding in back of transport
zeus2984 1 year ago
I have to say Zeus2984, I was a sgt maj in the Newzealand special forces, and I am reading both you and macleod 212s posts. it looks to me like macleod212 is trying to teach you something about trigger control, but youre not listening. Youre trying to say that one should keep the trigger held down whilst firing? Also I again agree with macleod212 that all firearms are different. True that one shouldnt bump the trigger, but macleods not saying they should, hes saying dont worry so much about it.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
@zeus2984 Also its not so much trigger control that promotes accuracy, its how the firearm is manipulated through proper grip and discipline. Its hard to "bump" the trigger if one has a proper grip. Thats what the operations personnel all over the world are taught to do. If your grip is good then your sight picture will automatically lign up. on double taps the trigger is released then tapped again. two shots fired in close succession.
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sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 My point proven right here kids. Hey sybo59, lets see an upload of you doing it "properly", this I have to see. By the way, I always used weapons (minus the 416 and usp) that didnt have safety. And I HATE fucking glocks. yes they all DO require trigger release. You show me how you fire a semi-auto weapon and keep the trigger held down. How does it reset with the trigger held down? POG ha ha. you dont even know what a pogue is you fucking call of duty wannabe.
macleod212 1 year ago
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sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 I dont give a monkeys about your imaginary experience yank. And just so we keep this wannabe pissing contest clear: The release for the trigger to reset is a cunt hair away from releasing the full thing. so what the fuck are you even talking about. Hey pussy, wheres my fuckin video showing us all how the great yankee poofter half cocks his trigger.
macleod212 1 year ago
@sybo 59 people who talk like you have no experience. The wire? what in Gods name is the wire? you learn that on tv? I see why macleod212 is getting frustrated with you. your an ignorant kid who thinks he has something on a combat veteran.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
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sybo59 1 year ago
@macleod212 I agree with you on what you have said, what I dont agree with is why you are staying on this kid. he is like a profile wanker. one of those kids who sits around "injured" until he gets med-rolled. then when he hits civvy street he tells his mates he was delta force. Dont know why your bothering mate, he isnt going to let up. you got his goat.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
@sybo59 by attempting to adopt what you think is a special ops mindset (not that youd know because you certainly were not there) you fail to understand the basics. soldiers do not go into combat with the safety on. But they DO think before they pull the trigger, otherwise you end up like your ranger pal pat tillman. Advanced infantry or not, special ops or not. when you shoot your buddy in the ass (or the back of the head) You look like a total knobbin and your at best discharged or in the nick.
macleod212 1 year ago
@sybo59 Ha. a mate of mine just made a good point. You probably dont really have any idea what Im talking about when I say trigger release, because its not as though you can hear the trigger reset when the character on the video game does a reload. HA HA HA. Youre keeping my whole company entertained kid. Your definitely a college graduated liberal troop hating turd.
macleod212 1 year ago
@sybo59 Why the fuck am I even arguing with a pathetic guttertwat like yourself. Look at the fucking video. Full trigger reset to fire the next shot. Haaa!! Fuck why did I even bother?
macleod212 1 year ago
@macleod212 A cunt hair? I just measured the distance from trigger reset to "full release" on my personal gat, and it is 8/10s of a centimeter; witch as you know, is equal to 76 cunt hairs. I can't believe you trivialize this point. I guess seconds don't matter. What possible advantage is there to pulling your finger all the way off the trigger between two shots?
Also, I've never met an operator that talks heavy shit, outside his group of friends of course.
sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 boy, you have NEVER met an operator. and of all the posts I have read on here, Macleod212s included, no one other than yourself has ever said anything about pulling their finger all the way off the trigger. Also, are you a darkie? because you called your personal a "gat." When someone from the military says full trigger release, they mean the full release until it clicks and then fire again. NOT LET GO. Jesus you americans are thick.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
@kiwiSgtMaj A darkie huh? A bit racist are we? Respect? Where is the respect in all of macleod and your comments? There is very little meat to you comments, and it is surrounded by the fat of meaningless suppositions in the form of insult. Big internet tough guy talk "I'd kick your ass!" "You stupid YANKS!!" "You've never MET an operator"
I guess the respect thing is supposed to be a one way street. The only disrespect I've shown is having a different opinion.
sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 You havent been there and you certainly havent participated. Therefore you deserve no right to an opinion. when you have served your country you will have the right. otherwise stay under your rock and watch others do it in your stead.You are indeed a liberal fuck. the worst kind of people are people like you.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
@sybo59 In my opinion, YOUR opinion doesnt count. You havent done it. YOU HAVE NO OPINION. the right for idiots to have opinions is what has turned your country into a liberal debt wasted shithole
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sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 I realise that they dont do geography in america. Which is pretty much along the same lines as to why were having this conversation. But a kiwi is the slang term of a person from NEW ZEALAND. not australia. they are close. but they are not the same country you see. as far as what WE are talking about. I think you have lost count. Well Im done here. as I told macleod212, Im going to leave you to your burning house. take deep breaths.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
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sybo59 1 year ago
@kiwiSgtMaj I think he confused "kiwi" with "kangaroo." Those "k" words are kind of confusing sometimes.
pete5668 1 year ago
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sybo59 1 year ago
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sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 You have some mouth on you boy. If you were in my group I would knock the fuck out of you. your words speak nothing but that of ignorance and disrespect. Macleod212 is right. NOT SHOOTING YOUR BUDDY IN THE ASS IS PRIORITY. the whole point of tactical anything is situational awareness. a large part of that being safety. Every pistol that I have ever fired in my career of 24 years in the military has been reset almost to full extension. there is only mm remaining to release when it clicks.
kiwiSgtMaj 1 year ago
This only works if you are shooting slow as shit, dont try it with an m4 or any pistol that you intend to double tap with, the held trigger reset will throw everything completely off.
macleod212 2 years ago
@macleod Your way is slower and is an example of terrible follow through.
sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 Im certain you would know more than I son. Just curious. How would you surmise an accurate picture of what is being discussed through a short comment? My contention is that you are simply another yankee expert that has never tried it. Oh and is that you giving yourself a one upper with a different account? Thats not a sign of a true bullshitter now is it?
macleod212 1 year ago
@macleod212 Son? Haha, very well.I will say after rewatching the video that he does keep the trigger to the rear longer than necessary.That said, follow through is follow through, with any weapon (although his is VERY exaggerated), and releasing the trigger no further than its reset is the most efficient way to take follow on shots.When your taking two shots with one sight picture (hammered pairs), obviously followthrough changes, but the trigger reset principal remains the same. Were you a POG?
sybo59 1 year ago
@sybo59 You mean a Know it all non infantry piece of shit. No. why would I have excessive combat experience if I was a pogue? What I did remains my business.
macleod212 1 year ago
You know what, after watching this again, I realize this guy isn't even doing what I'm talking about. I was thinking the vid was about trigger reset for quick accurate shooting, but hes has bad form in this regard.
sybo59 1 year ago
that first stage you're calling is the slack, remove the slack before you completing the trigger pull. and one thing more, put your right thumb above the safety lock for better recoil control and accuracy
violet0313 3 years ago
one of the most common mistakes i see when ppl shooth their gun is anticipating the recoil. pple generally want to over power the gun when the shoot it. for god sakes....just let the gun do what it do....don.t anticipate recoil. just shoot the friggin thang and of course with proper techniques...you should be ok
SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 3 years ago 12
everyone anticipates. even better shooters b/c its inevitable. good shooters will learn recoil pulses of their guns. what people shouldn't do is flinch. but everyone anticipates recoil.
3is 2 years ago
@SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 I"ve shot a gun here and there but I recently purchased my first handgun, simply to shot targets at home. I'm glad I read your comment I'll be sure to keep it in mind Sunday. Thanks.
warriorfire8103 10 months ago
@SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 @SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 I"ve shot a gun here and there but I recently purchased my first handgun, simply to shot targets at home. I'm glad I read your comment about not anticipating the recoil. I'll be sure to keep it in mind Sunday. Thank you.
warriorfire8103 10 months ago
@SLAUGHTERHOUSEENT313 unless of course your wielding a goddamn destert eagle or one of those powerful smith and western hand cannons :P
oldschool233 7 months ago
wow,if your facing somebody going to shoot them the last thing you will be thinking of is trigger technique
EASTSIDEBRAH 3 years ago 5
Absolutely, so you have to PRACTICE proper technique so that not just your head knows it....but your hands as well.
Blackfork6 3 years ago 32
you aim and pull the trigger
How hard is that
EASTSIDEBRAH 3 years ago
pistol shooting is like fucking. anyone with the proper equipment can do it, but only the well trained/talented can do it well. or well enough not to be laughed at after and during. btw, pulling the trigger properly especially under stress is much more difficult than many might think. jerking the trigger can effectively dismantle any previous effort to land the round.
mistereveready 3 years ago
haha well said
snl721 3 years ago
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no its not. its a tool that CAN be used for killing but so is a knife, hammer, saw, pencil, scissors, brick, car, plane, screwdriver, baseball bat, hockey stick,piano wire, rope, drug, chair, train, rock... you get the idea, i hope. They all have extensive other purposes but can kill. They aren't designed to kill.
snl721 3 years ago
but dont get me wrong it is fun to shoot inanimate objects up :D
UberR3D 2 years ago
hehe...new guy.
6Demon6Face6 3 years ago
@Blackfork6 If your a little farther this makes sense.
But close combat just hip fire.
The quickest always wins?
FLASHLIGHTMAN4LIFE 1 year ago
guns have purposes other than shooting people, believe it or not...
snl721 3 years ago
a gun is a tool used for killing...
EASTSIDEBRAH 3 years ago
killing/protection, plinking, persuasion, and practice. i've had a gun with me since i was nearly 10, and never had to shoot someone, but always found it useful. though i've had a few close encounters. the joy of using my gun to carve holes in a target and see my skills develop is to me, a quite satisfying purpose.
mistereveready 3 years ago 2
haha, well said
snl721 3 years ago
no its not. its a tool that CAN be used for killing but so is a knife, hammer, saw, pencil, scissors, brick, car, plane, screwdriver, baseball bat, hockey stick,piano wire, rope, drug, chair, train, rock... you get the idea, i hope. They all have extensive other purposes but can kill. They aren't designed to kill.
snl721 3 years ago
It first started with the cannon, this origanted from fireworks that were made back in the 1400's from the Chinese. This then continued to have the SAME idea as a bow&arrow (you guessed it, killing machine). These 2 ideas clashed, then continued to evolve into flintlocks, the spaniards/english used these to invade many territories, then slowly this "tool" morphed into cartridges, then boltactions/lever actions, then to automatics, now to single cartridge munitions all based on the intent to KILL
UberR3D 2 years ago
its the best defence
champclay18 2 years ago
Bad analogy. I guess you could say that a brick isn't designed to build structures, that this is just one application of it. Modern guns ARE designed for killing first and foremost, but also can be used for fun and recreation. What a terrible false correlation you draw between pencils, screwdrivers, etc. being tools that can be used as weapons and guns. The difference is a screwdriver is a screwing tool that can be used in alternative ways. A gun however is a killing tool at its very root.
sybo59 2 years ago
I disagree a gun may also be used as a bludgeoning tool, thus causing in most cases blunt force trauma. A less lethal alternative XD... sorry i couldn't help myself.
Jdurfee1082 2 years ago
Not all guns. Some are specifically made specifically for target shooting (mostly rifles, but also some pistols-in particular 22 caliber pistols).
dvospeed1 2 years ago
why are you on all this videos talking shit, you wouldn't know anything about guns because all you can do is read about the bad things they due in your stupid pussy newspapers, so shut the hell up and bow to your queen you bitch
kierasdakota7792 3 years ago
im so proud of you!
secallo28 3 years ago
@EASTSIDEBRAH
fail brah.
bstunt10190 1 year ago
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I have a question regarding the 1911 style pistol. I was told that the proper way to grip a 1911 is with the strong hand thumb resting on top of the thumb safety. I am finding that really uncomfortable so i have switched to the thumb under safety. Here's my issue, i was told from fellow shooters that if i grip the 1911 like that i could accidentally hit the safety on which could be fatal in some situations (self defense). Any advice or is a 1911 just not for me?
dirtyminded604 3 years ago
I shoot a 1911 exactly like you've mentioned and I haven't had any problems. It is possible to activate the safety but if you mind your thumb, you should be alright. Try a a Beretta M9.
6Demon6Face6 3 years ago
Mr. Langham does us a great service posting this vid. He clearly presented the critical skill of keeping the trigger pressed through recoil, releasing it to reset, then beginning the rearward press on the trigger again.
It is the core to both accurate shooting and rapid shooting.
DeadeyeSteve 3 years ago 2
good video!
i was a little worried at the start when u held it sideways i thought "oh no, we have kids thinking holding a firearm sideways is a valid form of shooting but to see this gentlman doing it, what the sport comeing to?"
but u did show a vary important triger technique and looked quite professional wile doing so
xXgothicangelXx666 4 years ago
Army: When shooting a M16/variant on semi-auto this technique works VERY well. Holding the trigger all the way back and then relaxing just enough to reset (you'll hear a loud "thock" as the trigger burst cam moves and resets) really smooths out an M16 trigger. The burst kit has three cam spurs on it, all progressively higher so that the trigger pull increases with each shot. Try it dry firing while holding the trigger back and cycling the bolt with the charging handle.
Blackfork6 4 years ago
@Blackfork6 Your recommendation for firing the M-16 can't be more right on. If the technique is used, subsequent rounds are much more precise due to the decrease in trigger travel and required pressure. For both the M-16 and handgun proper trigger mechanics are not easy to learn, but are worth training oneself to perform correctly. Thanks for the great vid!
pfredricks 1 year ago
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pfredricks 1 year ago
@Blackfork6 Dry firing is really dumb and can ruin your firearm, If you choose to do that you should at least use capped dummy rounds, but even then your firearm is at risk.
RockKeits 11 months ago
@RockKeits dry firing is only a concern with rimfire. I would never buy a piece of junk gun I couldn't dry fire
Diraphe 10 months ago
You ought to watch the same trigger technique when I am shooting a Garand on the Range Video I posted. Hold it all the way back....then relax just enough to reset, then start the next shot.
Blackfork6 4 years ago
i like the shooting technique but thats would be a little hard for someone thats in Iraq. but good vid none the less
armypenguin 4 years ago
depends if they miss on the first shot or not. Most marines and navy spec ops are trained not to miss. You are forgetting that most army and marine recon have either aimpoint or EOTECH sights. This fact alone let's their shots be way more accurate, I would know I have an EOTECH 552 on my Bushy XM15E2S. Put the dot on what you want to hit and squeeze, soda can 0 - me 1 - MF.
meshuggahfan 3 years ago
Thanks helpful. Going to the range today. we'll see if this improves my groups.
-newbie-
bubejunkie 4 years ago